The Charlie Kirk Show - James Talarico, False Moderate and False Prophet

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00:01:09.000 All right, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show, March 4th, 2026.

00:01:13.000 Welcome, Blake.

00:01:14.000 Howdy.

00:01:15.000 Lots to get to today.

00:01:16.000 We have a jam-packed show.

00:01:18.000 I'm excited to announce that we have Steve Toth, who has took down Dan Crenshaw.

00:01:25.000 Dan Crenshaw.

00:01:26.000 And that was a big upset.

00:01:28.000 Dan Crenshaw becomes the first incumbent House member to lose his reelection bid.

00:01:35.000 So he's done.

00:01:36.000 And so there you go.

00:01:38.000 That is a turning point action endorsed candidate taking out Dan Crenshaw in Texas's second district.

00:01:43.000 Kudo to everyone who turned out north of Phoenix, Woodlands area. 0.99

00:01:46.000 North of Houston.

00:01:48.000 Houston.

00:01:48.000 Oh, why did I say that?

00:01:48.000 Wait, because you're living in Phoenix.

00:01:51.000 Anyway, so we've got him in the second hour at 1:30 Eastern.

00:01:55.000 So don't go anywhere.

00:01:56.000 We're excited to talk to him.

00:01:57.000 We've actually also got an admiral.

00:02:00.000 We're going to talk tactics, what we know about chessboard pieces moving across the board in the Iran war.

00:02:06.000 But we want to unpack everything that's going on right now with the primary elections in Texas that happened last night.

00:02:14.000 Here on Real America's Voice, Steve Bannon did a bang-up job covering the outcomes last night.

00:02:21.000 So kudos to him, hat tip, big time.

00:02:23.000 But let's get into the Senate race because this was the big one.

00:02:26.000 And there's a lot going on on the AGs, on house races.

00:02:31.000 We get that.

00:02:32.000 But let's go to this.

00:02:33.000 John Cornyn looks like he eked out a victory over Ken Paxton.

00:02:38.000 We endorse Ken Paxton.

00:02:40.000 But the big story here, Blake, is it's hard to overstate how much of a David versus Goliath story this actually is.

00:02:48.000 Yeah, they spent approximately, what, $60 million?

00:02:50.000 Well, I've seen 60.

00:02:51.000 I've seen 75.

00:02:52.000 I've seen 105.

00:02:53.000 It depends.

00:02:54.000 Huge amounts of money either way.

00:02:56.000 They massively spent to keep Cornyn in office.

00:02:59.000 I would say Cornyn has to be one of the Republicans who sparks the least enthusiasm among the base of his state and around the country.

00:03:08.000 Well, here's the angle here, though.

00:03:10.000 If you're looking at that, you see Wesley Hunt got almost 300,000 votes.

00:03:15.000 Okay.

00:03:16.000 That is a lot of votes.

00:03:18.000 And mark my words, turnout's going to be even higher for the next, for the runoff, okay?

00:03:24.000 So what you're seeing is a 41.9% for Cornyn, the incumbent, over 40.7% for Ken Paxton.

00:03:31.000 I mean, it's just Cornyn.

00:03:32.000 Cornyn's a guy.

00:03:33.000 I think it's pretty safe to say Paxton is advantaged in the runoff.

00:03:37.000 And the reason for this is Cornyn is a pro-Amnesty Republican.

00:03:41.000 Yes.

00:03:41.000 Well known for that.

00:03:43.000 Also, Wesley Hunt, most of those votes for Wesley Hunt are probably going to go to Paxton.

00:03:49.000 And here's the other thing.

00:03:50.000 The Senate Leadership Fund was hitting Wesley Hunt.

00:03:53.000 So if the Senate Leadership Fund obviously wants John Cornyn, they think John Cornyn is the more electable of the two candidates.

00:04:01.000 But then you go after Wesley Hunt, you're alienating Wesley Hunt's voters.

00:04:05.000 I'm not exactly sure what the logic was on that.

00:04:08.000 But the piece here that's important is the establishment wants John Cornyn.

00:04:13.000 They think that he is more electable.

00:04:15.000 And maybe he might be.

00:04:17.000 Maybe, although, okay, he's a vote for Amnesty.

00:04:20.000 I would rather not have a vote for Amnesty in the Senate.

00:04:22.000 He's a vote against so many things.

00:04:24.000 He might be more electable.

00:04:26.000 But here's the thing.

00:04:27.000 They have said this about Ken Paxton from the jump.

00:04:30.000 They have done this to him in every statewide election.

00:04:33.000 And guess what?

00:04:34.000 Ken Paxton keeps winning and winning by a sizable majority.

00:04:38.000 Now, I'm not saying that if you put Cornyn up against Talrico, that Cornyn wouldn't get maybe a percentage point more or a percentage point and a half.

00:04:46.000 But then you get this senator that's good for nothing in the U.S. Senate.

00:04:49.000 We have enough of those.

00:04:50.000 Ken Paxton is a fighter.

00:04:52.000 He's proven he can win statewide again and again and again.

00:04:55.000 They always throw the same attack lines at him.

00:04:57.000 He's absolutely capable of winning the general against.

00:05:02.000 Well, that is the more important thing because the candidate on the Democrat side, I think we were all hoping we would get to go against Jasmine Crockett.

00:05:11.000 We all have found her highly entertaining.

00:05:13.000 She's given us a lot of enjoyment over the years. 0.99

00:05:17.000 But Jasmine Crockett's somewhat long shot primary bid where she opened with a video of President Trump calling her an idiot while sitting there has fallen. 0.98

00:05:28.000 She has fallen short. 0.94

00:05:29.000 We should bid farewell for her with one final video, I think, which is her coming out and saying that the primary was rigged by the Republicans.

00:05:37.000 We will note primaries in Texas are just run by the parties themselves.

00:05:42.000 So I guess the Republicans infiltrated the Democrat Party and just set it all up.

00:05:47.000 We will bid her farewell with one last cry of racism for 71.

00:05:52.000 All Red has already stated.

00:05:55.000 We encourage each and every one of you to remain resilient.

00:05:59.000 We cannot allow this type of behavior to be rewarded because so long as they know that they can win, even if it means cheating, then they will continue to do it.

00:06:11.000 Wait, Hold on.

00:06:14.000 I have been credibly informed that there is no such thing as election fraud.

00:06:20.000 I have been credibly informed.

00:06:23.000 But yet Jasmine Crockett alleges that there was cheating going on. 1.00

00:06:28.000 My favorite thing to see is Democrats alleging other Democrats are cheating.

00:06:32.000 Or in this case, I guess she did.

00:06:33.000 She said that Republicans rigged it or something.

00:06:36.000 I don't know why we would rig it.

00:06:38.000 Okay, so I begrudgingly am going to give Blake a little hat tip here.

00:06:42.000 I had a very good line about Talrico.

00:06:44.000 Now, Talrico.

00:06:46.000 So that is who won.

00:06:47.000 James Tallarico.

00:06:48.000 Talrico.

00:06:49.000 Presbyterian seminarian, I think is what he was.

00:06:53.000 But is he moderate?

00:06:54.000 Well, so that's the thing, is that they're going, we have to kind of reintroduce Talrico to everyone.

00:06:59.000 You're going to be seeing him a lot.

00:07:00.000 He is now the standard bearer for the Democrats this midterm.

00:07:03.000 He is their guy.

00:07:05.000 He's probably going to get the most money.

00:07:07.000 If he were to win next November, it will be touted as their biggest win.

00:07:11.000 Correct.

00:07:11.000 We're going to see this guy everywhere, James Tallarico.

00:07:14.000 And they're going to tell you he's a moderate.

00:07:16.000 He's the new face of the Democrat Party.

00:07:18.000 He's better than Kamala.

00:07:19.000 He's Christian.

00:07:20.000 He's a good old boy.

00:07:21.000 James Tallarico is not moderate.

00:07:21.000 All these things.

00:07:24.000 He's just white. 0.80

00:07:26.000 That's just all it is. 0.68

00:07:27.000 He is a white male.

00:07:29.000 Can we repeat that for the folks in the back that maybe didn't hear you?

00:07:32.000 James Talrico is not moderate.

00:07:34.000 He's just white. 0.54

00:07:35.000 It is the exact same thing they ran with Tim Wallace in 2020.

00:07:42.000 Well, not a man there, but yeah, Tim Walz.

00:07:44.000 The point is they trot this guy out and they say, look, he's a white, straight guy.

00:07:49.000 You know, he hunts.

00:07:51.000 He was on a football team.

00:07:53.000 Ergo, he's moderate.

00:07:55.000 He's safe for all of you.

00:07:57.000 When we know, because he tells you himself, he embraces all of the worst, most radical policies of the Democratic Party.

00:08:05.000 Like we have Gavin Newsom coming out and sort of signaling, we should maybe chill out on the transgender stuff, guys, when this guy is going out and saying stuff like this, $4.95. 0.99

00:08:16.000 God is both masculine and feminine and everything in between.

00:08:23.000 God is non-binary. 0.95

00:08:26.000 Or this, where he said, you know, there are six biological sexes, 524.

00:08:32.000 I want us all to be aware of is that modern science obviously recognizes that there are many more than two biological sexes.

00:08:41.000 In fact, there are six.

00:08:42.000 But six biological sexes.

00:08:44.000 Like, this is the moderate sex.

00:08:46.000 This is the moderate.

00:08:47.000 Because the radical debs, they believe there's infinity sexes. 0.98

00:08:51.000 At least he's limiting it to six.

00:08:53.000 So this is, he is moderate.

00:08:55.000 He's a total moderate.

00:08:56.000 He only believes in six sexes.

00:08:59.000 So here's a Bible verse for you, Blake.

00:09:02.000 James 14, 6.

00:09:04.000 Jesus answered, I am the way and the truth and the life.

00:09:08.000 No one comes to the Father except through me.

00:09:15.000 Now hear Talrico's take on this, 535.

00:09:19.000 I believe Christianity points to the truth.

00:09:21.000 I also think other religions of love point to the same truth.

00:09:24.000 I think of different religious traditions as different languages.

00:09:27.000 So you and I could sit here and debate what to call this cup.

00:09:30.000 And you could call it a cup in English.

00:09:32.000 You'd call it something else in Spanish and French.

00:09:35.000 But we are all talking about the same reality.

00:09:37.000 I believe Jesus Christ reveals that reality to us, but I also think that other traditions reveal that reality in their own ways with their own symbol structures.

00:09:45.000 And I've learned more about my tradition by learning more about Buddhism and Hinduism and Islam and Judaism.

00:09:52.000 And so I see these beautiful faith traditions as circling the same truth about the universe, about the cosmos.

00:09:58.000 And that truth is inherently a mystery.

00:10:02.000 Okay.

00:10:05.000 Okay.

00:10:07.000 I think it's worth repeating.

00:10:09.000 Every time you see these clips, I want you to tell yourself, James Talrico is not moderate.

00:10:13.000 He's just white. 0.54

00:10:14.000 Okay.

00:10:15.000 I mean, so I think we have, we can come up with various terms for what Talrico believes, but it's not Christianity.

00:10:26.000 That is.

00:10:26.000 Are you a believer in the Christ who said he was sent by God to redeem sins or not?

00:10:32.000 Answer the question.

00:10:33.000 Well, and this is the thing.

00:10:34.000 Left-wing Christianity is an extraordinary intellectual exercise because you can see there, James Talrico is twisting himself into ideological and intellectual knots, trying to carve a way out for a progressive to relate to what he's saying so that they don't think he's a bigot, you know, not like all us MAGA Bible thumpers.

00:10:57.000 And it's designed, progressive Christianity, to blot out all the aspects of the faith that don't align with the Democrat Party platform.

00:11:06.000 Said another way, they put their own ideologies, their own wants, their own appetites ahead of the commandments of God in scripture.

00:11:16.000 And that's why it's completely unrecognizable to your average Christian, to your average evangelical, to your average Catholic, to your average Orthodox.

00:11:24.000 And this is a verse for James Talrico.

00:11:26.000 I'd love to get his feedback on this.

00:11:28.000 2 Timothy 4, 3 through 4.

00:11:30.000 For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears, they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander off into myths.

00:11:44.000 And that's what you're seeing with progressive Christians like James Talrico.

00:11:48.000 I feel like we're going to need a sustained investigation to find out how many coexist bumper stickers James Tallarigo has bustered on his car, on his computers, on various paraphernalia throughout his life.

00:12:01.000 Because the answer is not zero.

00:12:02.000 Yeah, the answer is 100% not zero.

00:12:05.000 Well, and listen, to make a further point, this is how James Tallrico uses scripture in his Christian faith and going to seminary, of course.

00:12:14.000 Because no, seminaries are progressive, of course.

00:12:18.000 To defend abortion. 0.80

00:12:19.000 Not just any abortion, by the way, trans abortion as well.

00:12:23.000 $490.

00:12:24.000 Before we go further, I want to acknowledge that our trans community needs abortion care too.

00:12:30.000 Defending trans Texans is something we have to do every day at the state capitol.

00:12:35.000 And you better believe I'll be giving sermons on that too.

00:12:38.000 So when I use the word woman, it should not be understood as an exhaustive term, but rather as a lens through which to understand, examine, and interrogate patriarchy.

00:12:50.000 Okay, so I'm going to note something.

00:12:52.000 So for those who can see it, he was preaching at St. Andrew's Presbyterian Church.

00:12:56.000 I want to go back to his whole every religion is true.

00:12:58.000 St. Andrew is an apostle, and according to tradition, he is martyred on an X cross because he will not follow the Roman gods.

00:13:09.000 He will not follow the pagan gods. 0.62

00:13:11.000 He preaches that Christ is the Savior and the only, you know, is the way the truth, you know, the way and the truth of life, and that God is the only God.

00:13:18.000 And for that, he is executed according to Christian tradition.

00:13:21.000 That is why he is Saint Andrew.

00:13:23.000 So how can James go out there and say, well, actually, the Romans were also just on their way to the truth.

00:13:28.000 And he probably should have been more tolerant of things.

00:13:31.000 Well, he probably would have said, well, the Romans were not practicing a religion of love.

00:13:35.000 He might have said the Romans were better because the Romans didn't have nearly the problem with abortion that the early Christians did. 0.66

00:13:40.000 But no, he says they were wrong on that one, too.

00:13:43.000 Listen, be careful and beware of false teachers that will lead you astray.

00:13:48.000 And they will tell you whatever their itching ears want to hear because they are avoiding persecution for the truth.

00:13:54.000 That is essentially what this is.

00:13:55.000 God says, do you fear man?

00:13:57.000 Do you fear God?

00:13:59.000 Well, when you water down scripture and when you put your own intellect and your own ideologies and your own political platform ahead of what scripture says, well, that's false teaching and it's extremely dangerous.

00:14:09.000 But wait, there's more.

00:14:11.000 James Tallrico is bad on the border.

00:14:13.000 Can you imagine being a Texan and being awful on the border?

00:14:17.000 And we have a Republican who's bad on the border in the Senate for Texas, right?

00:14:21.000 Fair enough.

00:14:22.000 494.

00:14:23.000 Our southern border should be like our front porch.

00:14:26.000 There should be a giant welcome mat out front and a lock on the door.

00:14:30.000 We can welcome immigrants who want to live the American dream.

00:14:33.000 We can build a pathway to citizenship for those neighbors who have been here, making us richer and stronger.

00:14:39.000 And we can keep out people who mean to do us harm.

00:14:42.000 Giant front porch.

00:14:44.000 Welcome.

00:14:44.000 Again, he is not moderate.

00:14:47.000 He's just a white guy, and they're going to endlessly do this spin.

00:14:51.000 And it's really sinister.

00:14:53.000 As Christians, we have to be especially alert when they put these fake Christians in front of you and they say, oh, you know, he loves Jesus too. 0.98

00:15:01.000 And when they're preaching something that is really evil, when he is preaching literal child sacrifice in a supposed church, that is honestly far worse and far more sinister than if he was just a non-religious Democrat.

00:15:13.000 Woe unto you. 0.99

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00:16:38.000 So we have potentially on the show now one of the most accomplished military minds that I think we've ever had.

00:16:44.000 And I want to talk strategy, chessboard, chess pieces on a board kind of thing.

00:16:50.000 This is Admiral Bob Harward.

00:16:52.000 He grew up in Iran, graduated from the Tehran American School, and speaks Farsi, a former Navy SEAL and vice admiral.

00:16:58.000 He led U.S. operations in Afghanistan, in Iraq, served as deputy commander of the U.S. Central Command.

00:17:06.000 I mean, counter and terrorism, all the things.

00:17:08.000 This is a very accomplished gentleman.

00:17:11.000 Admiral Bob Harward, welcome to the show.

00:17:14.000 Honored to have you.

00:17:16.000 There's so much news out of Iran.

00:17:19.000 Give us the big picture view right now.

00:17:21.000 How are our troops along with Israel? 0.91

00:17:24.000 How are they performing?

00:17:25.000 Are we ahead of schedule, behind schedule?

00:17:27.000 Your assessment, sir.

00:17:28.000 Incredible.

00:17:29.000 The whole thing from cradle to grave is just incredible.

00:17:34.000 That's the best description I can have: that we had a leader who was finally, after 40 years, willing to take the political risk to stand up to this repressive regime that has been killing our people, attacking our partners in the region, attacking us in cyber and with phonetic activities in Iraq and Yemen.

00:17:55.000 So, that in itself is incredible.

00:17:57.000 Then, the actions of our military, a real testament to the long-term investments, the long-term commitment, the professionalism of our military, and the capability and capacity of our military to come in here in a matter of days and really obliterate their integrated air defense system, their ability to project power.

00:18:22.000 So, it's just unprecedented.

00:18:24.000 And then, most important, as you've noted, the strategy and what this means.

00:18:28.000 This changes the geopolitical content of the world as we know it right now.

00:18:34.000 We've removed one of the axis of evil that everyone's acknowledged for the last three or four decades.

00:18:41.000 So, it's just incredible in every way.

00:18:44.000 So, I want to play this clip from Secretary of War Pete Hegseth talking about kind of the initial volley and return fire that we saw from Iran.

00:18:54.000 He talks about it as a scripted play, like a football team.

00:18:57.000 482.

00:18:59.000 But I liken Iran's predicament to a football team who scripted the first 20 plays of a game. 0.52

00:19:06.000 The team knew what plays to run because their first few drives were scripted.

00:19:11.000 But now that the game has started and the blitz is on, they don't know what plays to call, let alone how to get in the huddle and call those plays.

00:19:21.000 Iran's senior leaders are dead.

00:19:24.000 The so-called governing council that might have selected a successor, dead, missing, or cowering in bunkers, too terrified to even occupy the same room.

00:19:34.000 Senior generals, mid-level officers, enlisted ranks, they can't talk or communicate, let alone mount a coordinated and sustained offensive.

00:19:42.000 The Iranian Air Force is no more built for 1996, destroyed in 2026.

00:19:48.000 The Iranian Navy rests at the bottom of the Persian Gulf.

00:19:52.000 So, now this, I mean, all of this is amazing.

00:19:55.000 And Pete Hegseth basically said that, you know, their air defense is about, we're about to command the skies over Iran in a day or two, less than a week.

00:20:04.000 But then the question then, sir, becomes: how long does this take?

00:20:10.000 Because we are seeing the concerns, Admiral, about missile stockpiles.

00:20:16.000 Does the U.S. have enough for this to go weeks, months on end?

00:20:22.000 Can we win that war of attrition with whatever Iran's built up? 1.00

00:20:26.000 That's a concern I'm seeing a lot of people have.

00:20:28.000 And we are seeing, for example, people are betting money on this sort of thing.

00:20:33.000 The prediction markets say there's only about a 40% chance that the regime falls by July.

00:20:39.000 Can the U.S. sustain this if the fight is going into April, May, the summer?

00:20:44.000 June, July, yeah.

00:20:45.000 Well, first off, I disagree with that premise completely.

00:20:48.000 And again, our stockpiles are less relevant once we stop their ability to project power.

00:20:55.000 If they can't launch missiles, they can't launch drones, they can't mine the straits of Hermuz, who cares how long it takes?

00:21:03.000 They can't hurt us.

00:21:04.000 They can't hurt our allies.

00:21:06.000 Time is on our sides then.

00:21:08.000 Do we arm the Kurds? 1.00

00:21:10.000 Do we move arms into the people, the opposition?

00:21:14.000 Look, we've had 30 years of hunting people in Iraq, Afghanistan, Yemen, everywhere.

00:21:20.000 We can apply that same capability here in Iran to the IRGC and the regime that's been killing its people. 0.80

00:21:31.000 So then time is irrelevant.

00:21:33.000 As long as they pose no threat and we've defanged them, which we're doing now, and as I said previously, we could will be at that tipping point now.

00:21:42.000 We could take all the time in the world to eviscerate the leaders and those people who want to continue to project this ideology of radical Islam being a legitimate form of government to repress its people and threaten others in the region and us and our allies.

00:22:02.000 So time becomes irrelevant in that mind.

00:22:05.000 So we have plenty of time to sustain that for whatever it takes.

00:22:09.000 And I think back to your timeline, June and July, once we've eviscerated that and focused capacity and capability on the IRGC, you're going to see a lot more people turning.

00:22:21.000 They're going to have to make that choice.

00:22:23.000 Do I want to live and be a part of the future or am I willing to sacrifice my life for losing cause that has been proven to be illegitimate?

00:22:32.000 So that's where I think this thing only accelerates.

00:22:35.000 So this June and sustainment, I think that's a red herring.

00:22:39.000 Copy that.

00:22:40.000 And so you're also a member of the Iran Policy Project at the Jewish Institute for National Security of America.

00:22:47.000 So one of the things that's striking about this is you've seen, at least in America, but really around the world, you've seen Jews and Iranians celebrating in the streets together, which I think is a really, I mean, you wouldn't necessarily see that or predict to see that.

00:23:03.000 But you speak Farsi.

00:23:06.000 You know something about the internal makeup of the people in Iran.

00:23:10.000 What is the next step then, especially when we're talking about potentially arming the Kurds?

00:23:16.000 I mean, because then you start worrying about civil war breaking out or something like that.

00:23:21.000 What is the will of the IRGC and those loyal to the regime to stick and stay fighting?

00:23:27.000 And what would be the process for turning over the government and getting a new government in its place?

00:23:33.000 Let me go back to your initial comments about Israelis or Jews and the Iranians.

00:23:40.000 When I grew up in Iran from 60s to 79, I lapsed, the largest Jewish community outside of Israel was in Iran.

00:23:49.000 That's right.

00:23:49.000 And it was a very secular nation.

00:23:51.000 They worked together business.

00:23:53.000 It was really a peaceful area.

00:23:55.000 And I've been in LA a few months ago where I attended a bar mitzvah.

00:24:00.000 There were more Persians and Iranians than there were Jews in that bar mitzvah.

00:24:04.000 So this ideology is what's made this whole regime so perverse.

00:24:09.000 They flipped that on the head and made him their enemy and a threat as well as us.

00:24:14.000 And the Iranian people have come to realize it's all a lie and facade. 1.00

00:24:19.000 So again, back to this flipping the regime.

00:24:22.000 Once we've decimated the ability to project power and can go after using signal intelligence, human intelligence, space assets, and can track and watch people not only to finish and fix them, but to identify them to the opposition groups so they can be targeted internally.

00:24:44.000 And a few of those start occurring, you're going to watch these guys turn very quickly or leave the country if they can.

00:24:52.000 So I think when you've got a nation of 90 million people where they've spoken very loudly, they've been on the streets protesting and were murdered, they're ready to hold these people accountable and act against them.

00:25:05.000 And so again, I think that timeline can move much quicker than people realize.

00:25:10.000 And do we have, have we, you know, I'm looking here at Iranininternational.com, and there's a note here that I logged.

00:25:10.000 Yeah.

00:25:19.000 It says the IRGC is also reportedly deeply concerned that once daylight breaks on Sunday, people across various parts of the country may take to the streets, potentially triggering a new wave of gatherings and protests.

00:25:30.000 Have you heard anything on your end about a potential new wave of protests, people taking to the streets, or is it too early to tell?

00:25:39.000 No, it's inevitable.

00:25:40.000 They've already been done it, but they were mowed down.

00:25:44.000 Now the president, as he said, help is on the way.

00:25:47.000 The help's there and it's even coming more.

00:25:50.000 So they're going to be in powder.

00:25:52.000 I don't know if it happens Sunday, if it happens Monday.

00:25:54.000 It's coming.

00:25:56.000 So no doubt about it.

00:25:57.000 You'd have to be a blind man not to see it coming.

00:26:00.000 The day of reckoning for this regime and those who stood with it, willing to murder the people of Iran is coming much quicker than people realize. 0.92

00:26:10.000 So this tipping point can occur almost any day now.

00:26:14.000 Yeah.

00:26:14.000 Well, I mean, listen, we certainly hope it doesn't devolve into some sort of sectarian fighting or civil war.

00:26:20.000 And that's why we have people like you that know the people better than we do and understand what's going to happen next.

00:26:26.000 So last 10, 15 seconds to you, sir.

00:26:29.000 Yeah, just again, as we started, this is an incredible event, and we got to start bickering phone stones at you.

00:26:37.000 Let's see it through to fruition, and then we can debate afterward.

00:26:41.000 But we're in the middle of the fight now, and this thing's going at a great rate of speed.

00:26:47.000 Don't diminish it.

00:26:48.000 Let's get it.

00:26:49.000 Nobody, sir.

00:26:50.000 Nobody is.

00:26:52.000 I mean, we're all impressed by our military might.

00:26:56.000 It is incredible to watch.

00:26:57.000 Thank you.

00:26:58.000 Your perspective is invaluable and your accomplishments for this country are.

00:27:03.000 We respect them greatly and are grateful for you and your service, sir.

00:27:07.000 Thank you so much.

00:27:08.000 Thank you, guys.

00:27:09.000 God bless you.

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00:28:22.000 Our U.S. military is second to none.

00:28:25.000 We love our military.

00:28:26.000 We support them.

00:28:27.000 And again, once this conflict began raging, we want to win.

00:28:32.000 All right.

00:28:33.000 Once you press go, like, I think the patriotic thing to do is not take it blindly, not ask questions or anything like that.

00:28:40.000 I disagree with all of those things.

00:28:43.000 But we hope and pray for the safety of our troops, for the success of our troops, and that this will ultimately prove to be a good thing for the world.

00:28:50.000 Now, you may have disagreed with this going on.

00:28:53.000 By the way, Blake, Blake is going to pull emails.

00:28:56.000 We talked about this.

00:28:57.000 I don't know if you've already done this.

00:28:58.000 Oh, yeah, I've been looking at them throughout.

00:29:01.000 We've got emails.

00:29:03.000 I feel like we've done our best on this show to talk about how we think Charlie would have reacted to the buildup to this war and the outbreak of it.

00:29:10.000 And I feel a sign that we're hopefully getting it right is we have competing emails that say we are betraying Charlie by being too supportive of the president.

00:29:21.000 And we are betraying Charlie by being too critical of the lead up to the war and that we are skeptical of it.

00:29:28.000 So do you think that's about the position you're doing?

00:29:31.000 Yeah, that was exactly Charlie's experience when it came to these things.

00:29:35.000 But a couple cool things have happened, actually, just and cool in the sense that, like, listen, I love our military.

00:29:42.000 There's nothing that is going to make me not love the military.

00:29:46.000 My brother serves.

00:29:47.000 I have family members that serve.

00:29:49.000 And we're proud of them when they do cool things.

00:29:51.000 And, you know, you could disagree with the premise of the war and still think that what they're doing is cool.

00:29:56.000 And one of them is that we have sunk a ship.

00:30:00.000 We have sunk ship in battle, an American submarine.

00:30:03.000 Let's throw up the B-roll 498. 0.85

00:30:05.000 An American submarine sunk an Iranian warship in the Indian Ocean.

00:30:11.000 It had apparently gone to some sort of naval review in India.

00:30:15.000 And then it was departing.

00:30:16.000 It was in international waters and it was sunk about 30 miles off the coast.

00:30:19.000 I'm going to go to the back.

00:30:19.000 I want to see that.

00:30:20.000 Yeah, play it again.

00:30:20.000 I'm going to go to Sri Lanka.

00:30:21.000 That's amazing.

00:30:22.000 I mean, the whole thing is going to be a little bit more.

00:30:23.000 You can see it there.

00:30:24.000 We have a powerful torpedo, blew its back off.

00:30:26.000 It's only the second time a nuclear-powered submarine has sunk a ship with a torpedo.

00:30:32.000 The British famously took out the General Belgrano of Argentina during the Falklands War.

00:30:37.000 But this is the first time an American submarine has done it since they were sinking Japanese ships 80 years ago.

00:30:43.000 And you've got to think, it's got to be very exciting.

00:30:48.000 Can you imagine that crew?

00:30:49.000 Yeah, the first time for decades they've trained for this, and they're finally going into action.

00:30:56.000 And listen, that is a huge, huge deal.

00:30:59.000 Taking out the naval capabilities of the Iranians frees up the Strait of Hormuz. 1.00

00:31:04.000 So just to reiterate, about 20% of the world's energy flows through the Strait, and 14 to 15% of all world trade flows through the strait.

00:31:12.000 Part of President Trump was saying what his specific objectives are with this conflict, and it was remove the Supreme Leader, remove their nuclear program, and sink their Navy.

00:31:21.000 These are explicit objectives he has stated.

00:31:24.000 So it takes us closer to achieving those objectives that this happened.

00:31:30.000 And that's what we want to see.

00:31:31.000 We want consistently from this administration, we want to see signs that they know what their objectives are and are working towards them.

00:31:39.000 And what you want to avoid are signs of a conflict becoming open-ended, becoming unclear, just we will fight until victory without saying what that is.

00:31:48.000 This is a story that we need to get to here.

00:31:51.000 And so CNN yesterday was reporting that the CIA is working to arm Kurdish forces.

00:31:58.000 This was reported, the lead reporter on this was Natasha Bertrand, who you will know from the 50 former Intel officials believe that Hunter's laptop laptop is disinformation.

00:32:16.000 Natasha Bertrand is notorious for basically publishing press releases from deep state intel operatives. 1.00

00:32:23.000 Okay.

00:32:24.000 This was a story that was leaked, meaning that, in my opinion, the people that leaked it are trying to harm the president.

00:32:32.000 So here's CNN trying to explain this 470.

00:32:36.000 We spent some time this evening with a senior Iranian Kurdish politician who basically told us that he the expectation among Iraqi, sorry,

00:32:49.000 Kurdish-Iranian opposition forces is that they will be going into western Iran as part of some kind of a ground operation over the course or at some point during the next few days that they will have support from the U.S. and from Israel, though he would not be drawn as to what exactly that support will look like.

00:33:13.000 He also told us that President Trump himself had called the leader of the KDPI, which is one of these Iranian Kurdish opposition parties, today and that they had what he categorized as a characterized, I should say, as a positive constitution.

00:33:30.000 All right.

00:33:31.000 So what's our history arming Kurdish?

00:33:33.000 Well, we've done it for a long time.

00:33:35.000 Israel also has extensive connections with the Kurds.

00:33:38.000 So the Kurds are an ethnic group in the mountainous area.

00:33:42.000 They've never had their own state, notably.

00:33:44.000 They're the largest ethnic group in the world that does not have their own state.

00:33:47.000 Yes.

00:33:48.000 So they have, so they're all across northern Iraq, Iran.

00:33:54.000 They're in Turkey.

00:33:55.000 I think most of them are in Turkey.

00:33:56.000 There are some in Syria.

00:33:57.000 They've repeatedly popped up because they tend to be a fractious minority. 1.00

00:34:04.000 I don't know that they're more Western.

00:34:05.000 A lot of them are communists.

00:34:06.000 They're more Western friendly.

00:34:07.000 They're more Western friendly.

00:34:08.000 That would be true.

00:34:09.000 And we've armed them in a lot of conflicts.

00:34:12.000 And sometimes it's helpful.

00:34:14.000 Sometimes it's not.

00:34:15.000 We encouraged them to launch an uprising against Saddam Hussein.

00:34:20.000 And they were gassed by Saddam Hussein before the Gulf War.

00:34:25.000 After the Gulf War, we encouraged both Kurds and Shia Muslims in Iraq to rise up against Saddam.

00:34:32.000 But we didn't support them directly, so they were suppressed.

00:34:36.000 And they've also been heavily involved in the Syrian civil war.

00:34:39.000 So I would find it pretty plausible if we were in communication with them to have some sort of on-the-ground presence in Iran because President Trump, we know, doesn't want U.S. troops there.

00:34:50.000 But I would voice a note of concern here, which is once you're kind of bringing in these ethnic militias, we have seen how that can end, which is you're turning a conflict into an ethnic civil war.

00:35:04.000 We had that in Afghanistan.

00:35:05.000 We had that in Libya.

00:35:06.000 We had that in Syria.

00:35:08.000 All those conflicts went for a very long time and became difficult.

00:35:14.000 Yep.

00:35:14.000 Well, exactly.

00:35:15.000 So, these are part of the unintended consequences of regime change that we have talked about.

00:35:22.000 We don't want our message, we don't want it to be possible for the Iranian regime to say President Trump is trying to dismember Iran as a country.

00:35:32.000 That will make it so the Iran, you know, the Iranians themselves, the Persians, who are the main ethnic group there, would be more likely to rally around the regime if it's going to say they're going to break apart our country. 0.93

00:35:43.000 Yeah, the hope is that within Iran itself, if you start seeing these street protests take action, if you start seeing command and control breakdown within the IRGC and the Quds force, and obviously the naval apparatus has been dismantled, you want to see a natural sort of takeover. 0.87

00:36:01.000 The question is: what is it going to take?

00:36:03.000 I think it would be helpful if the admin probably said overtly, we promise to not take apart Iran.

00:36:09.000 That they're not going to be able to do it.

00:36:10.000 I don't think they want to.

00:36:11.000 I don't think they do.

00:36:12.000 So they should say it.

00:36:13.000 Yeah, they just want to apply maximum force to make them fall quickly.

00:36:18.000 And I understand that, but unintended consequences, regime change, it's always the concern.

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00:37:44.000 We are joined by a couple of our college students.

00:37:47.000 Every so often, we like to do a segment devoted to them because it's kind of what it's all about.

00:37:52.000 It's what Charlie dedicated his life to reaching the next generation.

00:37:55.000 And today we have Megan Doyle from Rutgers University and Brooke Christie from Appalachian State University.

00:38:02.000 Welcome to the show, both you ladies.

00:38:05.000 Thank you so much for having us here.

00:38:06.000 It's exciting to be here.

00:38:07.000 Absolutely.

00:38:08.000 All right.

00:38:09.000 Well, thank you so much.

00:38:10.000 So, which one's Megan and which one's Brooke?

00:38:13.000 I'm Andrew.

00:38:13.000 I'm Brooke.

00:38:14.000 There you go.

00:38:15.000 Hey, Brooke. 0.99

00:38:15.000 Hi, Megan. 0.99

00:38:16.000 So I want to start off by asking you guys to give us the vibe on campus of the strikes against Iran.

00:38:16.000 All right.

00:38:23.000 What's the vibe?

00:38:24.000 What are people saying?

00:38:26.000 Let's go ahead and start with- Be honest with us.

00:38:28.000 Yeah, be honest.

00:38:28.000 Be bad.

00:38:29.000 Tell us.

00:38:29.000 We want to know.

00:38:30.000 We want the unvarnished truth.

00:38:31.000 Brooke, you first.

00:38:32.000 Yeah, I think at my campus especially, people are very upset with the United States and their involvement.

00:38:41.000 I think that a lot of direction is pointed at Israel and questioning our allies and the motives in that way.

00:38:51.000 And Megan?

00:38:53.000 Yeah, I definitely agree.

00:38:55.000 That's the same vibe that we're having on campus.

00:39:00.000 And I think more people don't want to see another war.

00:39:04.000 Copy.

00:39:04.000 So are you seeing protests?

00:39:06.000 Are you seeing people gathering in the square, in the quad?

00:39:11.000 What kind of activities are you seeing this manifest in?

00:39:14.000 I'm mostly seeing things through online platforms, people on Instagram or Twitter just, you know, really going in at President Trump and being upset that gas prices might go up and forever war.

00:39:31.000 Like people really, really do not want boots on the ground in this circumstance.

00:39:35.000 Are you seeing that even from people that you know voted for Trump in 2024?

00:39:40.000 Or is it more, is it still mostly from people you know would be left-wing regardless?

00:39:45.000 I think the idea of starting a new foreign war is really, even for Trump voters, really deterring people from wanting to align with the administration and their actions.

00:39:57.000 I can't speak for everyone, but I've definitely seen those opinions on campus.

00:40:01.000 Copy.

00:40:02.000 Megan, you seeing the same thing?

00:40:04.000 Yes.

00:40:05.000 And I think more people want to focus on our country.

00:40:10.000 They don't want another war.

00:40:12.000 They want to focus on affordability and housing and the gas prices.

00:40:20.000 Yeah.

00:40:21.000 And I mean, listen, you know, we've gotten a lot of emails from our audience that are upset that we're not, I guess, more full-throated in our support of the war.

00:40:30.000 And this is a big reason why is because, you know, Charlie was very in tune with Gen Z.

00:40:36.000 He visited college campuses at turning point.

00:40:39.000 That's all we do is work with students.

00:40:40.000 And I can tell you that the vibe on college campuses, even on high school campuses, that young people do not want to go to war.

00:40:48.000 They want to focus here on domestic issues, affordability, college, that sort of thing.

00:40:55.000 Free speech.

00:40:56.000 Are they going to have a job?

00:40:57.000 Is AI taking over the job market?

00:41:00.000 So that's a big reason why we're always a little reticent when we see this penchant for starting wars in the Middle East. 0.99

00:41:08.000 could end up being the absolute right decision from a national security perspective, but it does come with political costs and we need to be honest about those.

00:41:16.000 Thank you guys for being honest about those.

00:41:16.000 So thank you.

00:41:18.000 We're going to move on just a little bit here.

00:41:18.000 All right.

00:41:21.000 There's a new report that says 51% of Gen Z view their college degree as a waste of money.

00:41:30.000 This has been reported by multiple outlets, but yeah, both of you are in a college right now.

00:41:36.000 So explain yourselves and tell us how you feel about that.

00:41:40.000 Megan, let's start with you.

00:41:41.000 Do you find your degree to be a waste of money?

00:41:44.000 Well, I think my degree, I want to be a lawyer one day, so I kind of have to have a degree in order to get to law school.

00:41:54.000 However, I do think that colleges are ripping each other, ripping students off from getting a proper education.

00:42:02.000 We have colleges that are forcing students as a graduation requirement to take indoctrination classes.

00:42:10.000 And it really devalues our degree.

00:42:15.000 Yeah, I think that personally for me, I'm going into the education field and my degree will help me there.

00:42:15.000 Brooke?

00:42:23.000 I think that a lot of students these days go into college with the expectation that the degree is the objective when, you know, college is really supposed to be for finding your life's work.

00:42:34.000 And a lot of people are not going in directionally or thinking ahead of their career.

00:42:40.000 So they're letting college really scam them instead of taking accountability for their classes and outside learning.

00:42:47.000 And I don't think college, even with all of the social sciences and maybe like DEI classes and what we could call brainwashing, I think that just, you know, taking that accountability, really understanding the investment that you're making and going in with a purpose could really help with that statistic and letting kids know that when they go into college, it's not just a four-year vacation,

00:43:14.000 that it's purposeful and academia has a purpose in that exactly.

00:43:19.000 And Charlie would, you know, we like, we emphasize the college scam because Charlie called it the college scam, but he would always make that important point that you make the scam less of one if you know what you're, if you're studying something useful, if you're making the most of it, if you're not going on autopilot, going in with no plan, going in spending too much money and taking too long.

00:43:42.000 Let's play Charlie on why he thought college was a scam.

00:43:45.000 523.

00:43:46.000 Just to be clear, the vast majority of people going to college should not go.

00:43:50.000 Just one number off the top is that 40% of kids that enroll in college, they drop out.

00:43:55.000 They don't graduate at all.

00:43:56.000 And the vast majority of kids are studying things that humanities, sociology, or gender studies.

00:44:01.000 There is, of course, a role for some people to go to college that requires some technical proficiency.

00:44:06.000 But what happened, Brian, is that the entire value proposition was turned on its head.

00:44:11.000 Whether it be the $200,000 plus of cost that it occurs for over four years, the bad ideas, the woke ideology, we're really playing with some very dangerous elements here.

00:44:22.000 And so I encourage young people to think twice before going to college.

00:44:26.000 And not everyone needs to go to college to succeed in America.

00:44:29.000 Do you resonate with that, Megan?

00:44:31.000 Do you feel like there's a lot of indoctrination going on?

00:44:34.000 Yes, definitely.

00:44:35.000 There is quite a lot of indoctrination going on in our college campuses.

00:44:40.000 We're forced to take these liberal woke classes that are supposed to are in quotes kind of supposed to help us, but in reality, they're just ripping us off and making us more woke.

00:44:55.000 Yeah, and you have to pay for that credit by credit, right?

00:44:57.000 Don't call it when I was in class.

00:45:00.000 There's a price per credit that they put on that.

00:45:03.000 I don't know what it is at Rutgers.

00:45:04.000 I'm assuming pretty high, actually.

00:45:07.000 You know, Rutgers University, by the way, Blake, was the, we had Dr. Antifa was at Rutgers.

00:45:13.000 That was a guy that wrote the Antifa handbook and then fled to Spain when it got hot because he was advocating that politics should, we should be preemptively, liberals should be preemptively attacking fascists.

00:45:26.000 So, and then when he got a little criticism for that, he tucked tail and ran to Spain.

00:45:31.000 All right, Megan, you keep saying talking about this, these courses you have to take, these indoctrination courses you have to take, but it sounds like maybe you're not there yet.

00:45:40.000 You're not, juniors and seniors have to take these courses, which is ironic, right?

00:45:44.000 So before you send them out into the world, then it just says in our summary, there's apparently literal and Antifa classes.

00:45:51.000 So I'd love more information on that.

00:45:52.000 Mark Bray, Dr. Antifa, is still employed by Rutgers University.

00:45:56.000 A taxpayer-funded institution.

00:45:58.000 Yes, a public school. 0.99

00:45:59.000 It's ridiculous. 0.67

00:46:00.000 He fled to Spain and he still got a job. 0.66

00:46:03.000 So Megan, tell us about that.

00:46:05.000 What are some of the courses you've heard about?

00:46:06.000 So some of the courses that I've heard about was the history on abortion.

00:46:11.000 And like you said, Mark Bray is in fact teaching the history of anti-fascism, which he employs his Antifa rhetoric onto students.

00:46:23.000 And along with the history on abortion, we have professors that are trying to push this pro-choice view onto students.

00:46:32.000 Yeah, that's not education.

00:46:33.000 That's activism.

00:46:35.000 Do you see that at Appalachia State, Brooke?

00:46:37.000 I do see some of it.

00:46:38.000 I think there are certain classes that focus on critical theory and Marxism.

00:46:45.000 But a lot of teachers and professors, I think, try and express their opinions on that.

00:46:51.000 A lot of them are very much pro-leftist, and some of them do do a great job of, you know, actually engaging students in real education.

00:47:00.000 What's troubling to me is students not wanting to break outside of their own thought circles and completely disregarding other or conservative ideas.

00:47:09.000 So I think it's really like a student issue that professors, you know, put forward as well.

00:47:17.000 So what is it like, you know, in the aftermath of Charlie's assassination for you at Turning Point a member tabling on campus?

00:47:27.000 Like what's the stat?

00:47:28.000 How's the club doing?

00:47:29.000 What's it like?

00:47:29.000 What's the reaction for other students at Appalachia State?

00:47:33.000 Since Charlie has passed, we've gained about 200 students.

00:47:37.000 We started our chapter this semester with about 30 and now we're up to, I think, 213.

00:47:42.000 So it's been really great community building.

00:47:46.000 We've had really helpful communication with staff and administration, putting on events and we had a cow on campus the other day.

00:47:57.000 But students are very much anti-turning point and I don't think that they truly want to engage with us as much if they're in those leftist circles.

00:48:08.000 And that's something that I want to work on is just overall campus communication.

00:48:12.000 Yeah, getting out of people.

00:48:14.000 Inviting them to see that we're not all like crazy fascists, that Mark Bray is.

00:48:19.000 No, we're really just friendly.

00:48:22.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:48:23.000 Turns out conservatives are happy and nice and really welcoming if you give us a shot.

00:48:27.000 Not that they would expect it, no.

00:48:29.000 No, exactly.

00:48:30.000 What about you, Megan?

00:48:31.000 What's the vibe on Rutgers University?

00:48:34.000 You guys have some great student leaders, especially on the club level, that helped blow up that Mark Bray story in the first place.

00:48:41.000 Yes, yes.

00:48:42.000 Thank you so much.

00:48:44.000 Yeah, the vibe with Turning Point being on campus is quite negative.

00:48:50.000 I remember when we did our tabling and students often want to engage with us, but they don't, they really want to engage in a negative way.

00:48:59.000 We've had students that mock Charlie Kirk's stuff.

00:49:04.000 We have students that openly insult us for our conservative and traditional beliefs.

00:49:09.000 And it really just shows how divided we are, not only as a country, but in campuses as well.

00:49:17.000 And that shouldn't be the case.

00:49:18.000 We should have open debate and open discussion, which is definitely something that colleges need to work on.

00:49:24.000 Yeah, Danny's telling us, he said, at Ohio State, the college Democrats would threaten their members and people if they interacted with the chapter, the turning point chapter there.

00:49:35.000 It's very real.

00:49:35.000 And for those who aren't young people who aren't on campus, we want to drive this point home that we did well in 2024.

00:49:41.000 We did have a shift of young people towards Trump, but due to events such as the war, some of that might be reversing.

00:49:47.000 And all I've seen stuff is.

00:49:48.000 There was stuff where, you know, you had more freedom to be conservative on campus and the left was cowed a bit, but they're charging back.

00:49:55.000 They're going to be aggressive again.

00:49:57.000 They might be violent again.

00:49:59.000 And some of these people look at Luigi as a model.

00:50:02.000 They might even look at Tyler Robinson as a hero.

00:50:04.000 Yeah.

00:50:04.000 It's, it's, do you guys feel that they're the level of antagonism, the aggressiveness of left, the progressive culture on campus has escalated in recent months?

00:50:15.000 I think in a way it has.

00:50:18.000 We have had a few cases after Charlie Kirk's assassination and the ICE raids in Michigan that people, you know, write very nasty things on campus, like shoot your local ICE agent.

00:50:32.000 And we've we've had to communicate that with our staff.

00:50:38.000 And so it's sort of disheartening that people are taking these lines and protesting against our federal government.

00:50:47.000 It's an interesting time to be on campus for sure.

00:50:50.000 Yeah, Megan, have you seen the energy from the left ramp up in recent months?

00:50:56.000 Yeah, it has definitely ramped up, especially after Charlie Kirk died.

00:51:00.000 And, you know, with Rutgers turning point being involved with the petition to remove Mark Bray, it has definitely made Turning Point quite a target on campus.

00:51:12.000 Like I said before, we have seen major acts of aggression towards me, other leaders at Turning Point.

00:51:22.000 What did they do to you?

00:51:24.000 I've been openly insulted to my face when I'm doing a tabling at Turning in my college campus.

00:51:33.000 And, you know, with my involvement in the Antifa petition, not only have I been doxxed, I've been, my personal identity has just been thrown into the internet for everyone to see.

00:51:51.000 I'm so sorry, Megan.

00:51:52.000 Well, thank you for holding firm in the face of that.

00:51:55.000 You guys are the tip of the spear.

00:51:57.000 You are so courageous.

00:51:59.000 And we just, we have your back and you guys are doing God's work.

00:52:04.000 Yeah.

00:52:04.000 And thank you for coming on.

00:52:05.000 And thank you for giving us raw honesty on stuff like the war.

00:52:08.000 We appreciate hearing that.

00:52:09.000 Charlie looked to you guys to understand the truth of what was going on.

00:52:13.000 Thank you for giving it to us.

00:52:14.000 See you later.

00:52:14.000 Look and Megan.

00:52:15.000 Thanks so much.

00:52:16.000 Thank you.

00:52:17.000 Thank you so much.

00:52:21.000 Hi, folks.

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00:53:20.000 Very excited about our next guest.

00:53:21.000 And we have actually welcomed Tyler Boyer, who runs Turning Point Action for us, to join us for this segment.

00:53:28.000 And that is state representative Steve Toth.

00:53:31.000 He has been victorious in his primary battle with Dan Crenshaw, won by a decisive margin in Texas's second district.

00:53:40.000 Steve Toth, welcome to the show.

00:53:42.000 It's Toth, by the way.

00:53:44.000 Toth.

00:53:44.000 What did I say?

00:53:46.000 Toth.

00:53:47.000 Oh, I actually knew that.

00:53:48.000 I don't know why.

00:53:49.000 You get distracted with the reads.

00:53:51.000 Steve Toth.

00:53:51.000 Steve, I told him it was Toth all day yesterday.

00:53:54.000 I said Toth a lot.

00:53:56.000 I don't know what my problem is.

00:53:58.000 What's so funny is that Dan Crenshaw spent $3 million teaching everybody how to pronounce my name.

00:54:05.000 And Tyler, the reality is that 99.9% of all people that have ever met me the very first time say talk, they don't know how to pronounce it.

00:54:12.000 You know what's the funny thing?

00:54:13.000 Go ahead, sir.

00:54:14.000 The funny thing is in the parking lot, for two weeks of early voting, people kept coming up to me saying, Steve Toth, I'm voting for you.

00:54:21.000 I'm like, man, I'm so grateful for Dan Crenshaw and all the negative ads that he's put out there that people finally know how to pronounce my name.

00:54:30.000 Hey, huge congratulations.

00:54:32.000 Huge congrats.

00:54:33.000 We're so thrilled.

00:54:34.000 I know so many great, yeah, great Texans that are just so relieved is, I guess, I guess, the best word to have somebody that they know they can trust representing them in Congress.

00:54:46.000 So tell us about what kind of the feedback was.

00:54:49.000 I'm sure it was an emotional night last night for you.

00:54:51.000 We were just so pumped.

00:54:53.000 But you know what's crazy is that I've got a background in linear aggression modeling and polling.

00:54:58.000 And people were like, don't do this.

00:55:00.000 You haven't got a chance.

00:55:02.000 And we're like, no, we're going to win.

00:55:05.000 We're going to win with 57% of the vote.

00:55:07.000 And I was wrong.

00:55:08.000 We got 58% of the vote.

00:55:10.000 But people were just like so shocked.

00:55:13.000 And I'm like, he was 55% unfavorable in Montgomery County, which is 53% of the district.

00:55:20.000 He was 44% unfavorable in Harris County, which everyone was like, there's no way you can beat him.

00:55:28.000 We're like, no, we're going to beat him.

00:55:30.000 We're going to beat him.

00:55:31.000 Trust me on this.

00:55:33.000 And so it was just, we were just overjoyed last night to see it finally nine months later come to fruition.

00:55:38.000 Well, I have family in the North Houston area, and they are so thrilled.

00:55:43.000 And just in general, just about, I mean, it's just been, It feels like for the many years since about 2020, it's just been a lot of back and forth shenanigans with people.

00:55:56.000 And people are just done with that in Congress.

00:55:57.000 They want people who are going to go, you know, be who they are, represent them well, communicate well with the people.

00:56:04.000 I mean, what is some of your primary goals that you're looking to achieve, you know, kind of stepping into that and helping rebuild some trust maybe for Texas and again, that Houston metropolitan area where some people kind of had felt like they were being ignored for many, many years by kind of the Hollywood levels type stuff that was going on.

00:56:26.000 I mean, what's your take?

00:56:28.000 What's your plan?

00:56:29.000 So Congressional District 2 in Texas is a tale of two communities.

00:56:34.000 It's the western, it's Montgomery County portion of Congressional District 2 and the Harris County portion of Congressional District 2, which the eastern portion of this in Harris County has been really, by and large, overlooked.

00:56:46.000 It's the red-headed stepchild, if you will, of the city of Houston.

00:56:51.000 And they flooded badly 10 years ago.

00:56:55.000 That's right.

00:56:56.000 And so bad.

00:56:58.000 Homes were washed off their foundations.

00:57:00.000 People were drowned in the middle of the night.

00:57:03.000 A terrible situation.

00:57:05.000 And since that time, millions has been brought back.

00:57:09.000 I mean, I was on the appropriations committee and I appropriated $1.6 billion for flood mitigation efforts in the state of Texas.

00:57:18.000 And yet none of it, really, none of it has found its way to this area.

00:57:24.000 And so here we are 10 years later, and we're every susceptibility as susceptible to a flood as we were back then.

00:57:31.000 And I want to fight for these guys and really help them realize that you can live in a place, beautiful place like this and not have to worry about your home being washed off its foundation in the middle of the night.

00:57:42.000 So we've got a lot of work to do, and I've got a lot of work to do to really impress upon them that I'm serious about this.

00:57:48.000 Well, I appreciate that.

00:57:49.000 That was actually my family.

00:57:50.000 My family's home was completely destroyed by those floods 10 years ago.

00:57:56.000 And it impacted their life in so many more ways.

00:57:59.000 I mean, they're rebuilding.

00:58:01.000 You still have, you know, like you're mentioning, elements of where that community hasn't been rebuilt.

00:58:07.000 And so many people left that really shouldn't have left.

00:58:10.000 Like great, great people who are like, I'm not doing this.

00:58:14.000 And they got to different parts of Texas or went to different parts of the country.

00:58:17.000 And that's really sad.

00:58:18.000 So I'm glad that you brought that up.

00:58:20.000 Well, and so you talk about restoring the trust with the grassroots and the base.

00:58:25.000 You are the grassroots candidate.

00:58:27.000 You pulled out a massive, massive win.

00:58:30.000 Crenshaw is out now, essentially.

00:58:33.000 So you are going to be the Republican nominee and you are going against a Democrat, though.

00:58:38.000 This is an R-plus district, but he's got a lot of money.

00:58:42.000 He's got a lot of money.

00:58:44.000 And His consultant is, from what I'd heard, this is the guy that ran the campaign for Bernie Sanders when he ran for president.

00:58:54.000 So, full-blown socialist.

00:58:59.000 That's who these loons are in Texas. 0.99

00:59:01.000 There is just like nothing moderate about them.

00:59:03.000 You think, hey, it's Sexist, right?

00:59:05.000 They must be a little bit, you know, almost like a Lynn Baines-Johnson kind of demonstrate.

00:59:11.000 Now, those guys are Lynn Baines, Johnson, Democrats, are all gone. 0.86

00:59:14.000 They're as far loony as you can possibly imagine.

00:59:18.000 And so, we're going to have our hands, our work cut out for us, and we're going to work hard and we're going to win this.

00:59:25.000 I'm just looking at an old James Tallarico tweet one of our staff just sent us where he, I guess, must be reacting to someone saying something right of center.

00:59:35.000 And he goes, There, but for the grace of God, go I. As a white man, I'm susceptible to radicalization.

00:59:41.000 Thankfully, I was exposed to diversity at a young age and explicitly taught the values of equality, inclusion, and justice.

00:59:49.000 But not every young white boy is so lucky.

00:59:52.000 We've got some loopy people coming out of Texas, unfortunately, Steve.

00:59:58.000 And we need a very strong GOP to push back on it.

01:00:02.000 And maybe that's, you know, we could talk about that.

01:00:04.000 There's been a lot of frustrations, I think, with turnout, and just with the Texas GOP generally.

01:00:11.000 I run into conservatives who make that, they'll make the comparison between Texas and Florida a lot.

01:00:16.000 They're both very big states.

01:00:17.000 They're both longtime Republican states.

01:00:19.000 They're both very critical for our election prospects nationally.

01:00:24.000 And it feels like Florida is almost always like on, you know, they're really with it.

01:00:28.000 They're very high-functioning.

01:00:31.000 They churn out a lot of high-quality legislation.

01:00:34.000 They get it done.

01:00:35.000 And it feels like with Texas, we have these problems.

01:00:37.000 We're always hearing, oh, in the Texas legislature, they get, they literally pick their speaker with Democrat support and they put Democrats in senior committee spots.

01:00:47.000 And sorry if I'm rambling a bit.

01:00:49.000 I guess I just wonder, you're the third most conservative guy in the Texas House, according to a study by Rice.

01:00:54.000 So maybe you have some thoughts on why those parties seem so different and what went wrong in Texas.

01:00:59.000 62 Democrats joined 21 Republicans to give us the speaker of the House.

01:01:08.000 So three quarters, two-thirds, you know, 20, yeah, two-thirds, two-thirds Democrat, one-third Republican.

01:01:22.000 That coalition of Democrats runs the Texas House.

01:01:27.000 So when I put forth legislation to secure our elections, it gets killed by the Democrats.

01:01:34.000 When I put forth legislation to end the social transition of children, it gets killed by the Democrats.

01:01:41.000 It is, it's evil.

01:01:43.000 Tellerico is part of that group.

01:01:45.000 I served with James Tellarico from 2019 through to today. 0.93

01:01:49.000 This guy is as evil as they come.

01:01:51.000 There is a darkness to this man's life that if you doubt that there's a wickedness and an evil and a demonic presence in the world, you only have to look at James Tellerico. 1.00

01:02:03.000 He is an awful, awful person, awful person. 0.98

01:02:07.000 Well, there's news on that race, by the way. 0.98

01:02:11.000 President Trump has just announced that he will make an endorsement soon in Texas's GOP Senate primary, and he's asking the candidate that he does not endorse to drop out, which is quite the truth social.

01:02:25.000 He has not announced yet, but he says he will soon.

01:02:28.000 That scares me.

01:02:30.000 Yeah, me too.

01:02:33.000 That really seriously scares me.

01:02:36.000 Well, my hope is, Steve, that your race actually will push the president to, because, I mean, your race was one of the few that the White House.

01:02:46.000 It's a bellwether.

01:02:47.000 It's a bellwether race.

01:02:48.000 That the White House didn't engage in.

01:02:50.000 And again, I appreciate that because I think it would have been awful had they endorsed Dan Crenshaw.

01:02:58.000 Dan still would have lost.

01:02:59.000 Dan still would have lost.

01:03:01.000 I agree with that, but my point is I'm hoping that, you know, and would love to get your thoughts, especially after we get out of the break here, is, you know, maybe this is a new day for Texas because of your race, you winning your race so decisively.

01:03:16.000 What do you think about that?

01:03:17.000 $80 million spent and the most expensive center race in the history of the United States.

01:03:28.000 $80 million spent on one candidate and he could not even get 50%.

01:03:36.000 And it tells you that America and Texas especially is done with John Cornyn.

01:03:43.000 And America, there is only one person that had higher unfavorables in the state of Texas.

01:03:48.000 And I told this to the president.

01:03:50.000 There's only one person that is higher unfavorables in the state of Texas than John Cornyn, and that was Dan Crenshaw, but it was only by one point.

01:03:58.000 And so, yeah, I am hoping that the president considers that in his endorsement because John Cornyn is not going to be the next.

01:04:10.000 He's not.

01:04:11.000 It does not matter how much money they spend.

01:04:14.000 It does not matter how many endorsements John Cornyn gets.

01:04:19.000 He will not win.

01:04:21.000 Well, by the way, Cornyn will stab him in the back as soon as he is done with this election. 0.90

01:04:27.000 He was doing that before he realized he was in a dogfight. 0.52

01:04:31.000 So then he fell in line and voting MAG all the way.

01:04:33.000 But guess what?

01:04:34.000 If he gets another six-year lease on life, he's going to go back to his old ways.

01:04:38.000 So that's a good transition here.

01:04:40.000 So, Steve, your race is a bellwether for the state.

01:04:44.000 It shows that the grassroots is fed up with the establishment in Texas.

01:04:47.000 A lot of what ails us looks like we, there you go.

01:04:50.000 A lot of what ails Texas is this sort of Bush hangover, establishment, Republican.

01:04:55.000 We experienced this in Arizona, but Tyler knows this better than anybody, this war between the old guard and this new wave of populist conservative energy.

01:05:05.000 The early reports suggest that President Trump is going to endorse Cornyn.

01:05:10.000 That's what everybody's expecting here.

01:05:13.000 Your race could be the key to making sure that doesn't happen. 0.96

01:05:17.000 What is the energy of the grassroots in the state of Texas?

01:05:20.000 Is it ready for this?

01:05:21.000 Yeah, it's off the charts.

01:05:22.000 Ronald Reagan told us nearly 50 years ago it's bold colors that will inspire the next generation of Americans to turn out and vote.

01:05:30.000 And we've seen that in Florida, right?

01:05:32.000 Like you take a bold governor in DeSantis, and he is inspiring a whole new generation.

01:05:42.000 And look at our border, guys.

01:05:44.000 Our border has gone from bright blue to bright red under President Trump.

01:05:50.000 Why?

01:05:52.000 Because Hispanics, as well as young people, want to see bold leadership.

01:05:58.000 The problem with the Bush wing of the Republican Party is that whenever they won elections, they took office.

01:06:04.000 Meanwhile, Democrats, when they won elections, they wielded power.

01:06:08.000 People want to see bold leadership.

01:06:11.000 They don't want to see people like John Cornyn that have been there, been in office for 40 some odd freaking years and hasn't done anything.

01:06:20.000 He has done nothing for the movement.

01:06:21.000 He's done nothing for the conservative movement at all.

01:06:24.000 He's just stood in the way of it.

01:06:26.000 We need a guy like Ken Paxton that's going to go and fight.

01:06:30.000 And we need the president to get behind him.

01:06:34.000 Why do you think the Senate Leadership Fund and the Establishment Republic?

01:06:39.000 I mean, if you watch Fox News, it's all these senators going, we need Cornyn. 1.00

01:06:42.000 We need Cornyn. 1.00

01:06:43.000 Is this just good old boy stuff?

01:06:44.000 Like they know him.

01:06:46.000 I mean, they've been attacking Paxton, saying he couldn't win a statewide race every time he's run, and yet he keeps winning.

01:06:53.000 So what's the deal?

01:06:55.000 It's just Rhinos taking care. 1.00

01:06:56.000 I hate using that expression, but it's just incumbents taking care of incumbents.

01:07:01.000 And it makes me just completely sick.

01:07:04.000 What do you, I agree.

01:07:06.000 What are you looking at in terms of the state AG race?

01:07:10.000 I think it's going to be a battle, but honestly, I hope the president does not, you know, I just not support Cornyn, but if he does, Ken's going to win at 60-40, maybe 63-37.

01:07:24.000 Well, what about Chip Roy, the Texas Attorney General, that race? 0.97

01:07:29.000 Chip Roy, and then we've got to go.

01:07:31.000 Yeah, that's going to be a shootout between Middleton and Chip Roy.

01:07:36.000 And I couldn't call it.

01:07:38.000 I really have a hard time calling it.

01:07:40.000 But here's the thing is that you're going from 1 in 10 voters in the primary to 100% in the general.

01:07:50.000 And I think you're going to see, I'm sorry, as you go into the runoff, I apologize.

01:07:55.000 Yes.

01:07:56.000 If you go into the runoff, you're going from 1 in 10 to about 1 in 20.

01:08:00.000 And it's only the most conservative, committed people that are going to turn out for a runoff, which means that John Cornyn is going to get blown out of the water in this race.

01:08:11.000 I mean, it's not going to be close.

01:08:14.000 It doesn't matter who endorses John Cornyn.

01:08:17.000 John Corny is going to go down and he's going to go down big.

01:08:20.000 All of the polling shows that too, Steve.

01:08:22.000 So all the polling has shown a vast majority of the individuals that voted for the third place candidate in the Senate rate and Congressman Wesley Hunt are going towards Paxton.

01:08:35.000 That's a turnout question, though, is an interesting aspect of this.

01:08:38.000 But this is the point.

01:08:39.000 Exactly what you're saying is what almost everyone from Texas that follows Texas closely is that the runoff has produced a more conservative outcome and almost every single and every single outcome for the past number of times that this has happened.

01:08:55.000 You see that not changing is what you're saying this election cycle.

01:08:59.000 It's not going to change, although the Karl Rove wing of the party, one of the things that they're really good at, they're going to identify tens of thousands of Democrats that did not vote in the primary.

01:09:13.000 And they're going to spend millions of dollars encouraging them to turn out and vote for John Cornyn.

01:09:21.000 And so, yeah, there's going to be this really freakish coalition of moderates and Democrats that are going to try and turn out for him.

01:09:30.000 But the problem is that probably 30% of the Republicans that voted for John Cornyn are not going to turn out for a runoff.

01:09:40.000 Although the vast majority, 90 plus percent of the conservatives will turn out for Kent.

01:09:46.000 Well, and that may be the difference maker in this race.

01:09:51.000 But you're bringing up something that's super important.

01:09:53.000 You know, the Democrats wanted to make sure they didn't have a runoff in the Senate race so that they could try to influence negatively the Republican runoff to that point.

01:10:03.000 What are the rules, though?

01:10:04.000 So if you're a Democrat, you can just vote in a Republican runoff?

01:10:07.000 No.

01:10:08.000 Yeah, so we have open primaries in Texas.

01:10:11.000 But what it means, though, is that if you're a Democrat and you voted in the Democrat primary, you can't vote in this runoff.

01:10:19.000 But if you're a Democrat and you just didn't vote in the primaries for whatever reason, then yeah, you could vote.

01:10:25.000 You could vote in our runoff.

01:10:27.000 That's a rule that should be changed.

01:10:29.000 My goodness.

01:10:31.000 We would love to do that.

01:10:32.000 We would love to do that.

01:10:33.000 We've been trying to do that.

01:10:35.000 But unfortunately, the Texas House, in the Texas House, it's controlled by Democrats.

01:10:41.000 And Democrats keep killing that legislation.

01:10:44.000 Last question, Steve, here.

01:10:45.000 We've got 45 seconds left for you here.

01:10:48.000 A lot of noise was made about turnout being low versus Democrats.

01:10:52.000 Are we concerned about that going into the runoff in the general?

01:10:54.000 Well, you're going to see record low turnout in the general.

01:10:57.000 It's going to be high concentration of real in the runoff.

01:11:03.000 I'm sorry.

01:11:04.000 In the runoff.

01:11:05.000 Yes, but I'm not concerned about turnout in the general.

01:11:08.000 It'll be fine.

01:11:09.000 We'll do great.

01:11:10.000 Okay, good.

01:11:11.000 Steve Toth, by the way, you're in good standing here because I did this to Representative Burchett.

01:11:18.000 I kept saying Burchette, I think.

01:11:20.000 And he corrected, yeah, he corrected me.

01:11:22.000 But it's so great to have you and to get to meet you.

01:11:25.000 We're so ecstatic that Turning Point Action got behind you and you pulled it off.

01:11:29.000 It's such an upgrade for Texas.

01:11:32.000 And God bless you, sir.

01:11:34.000 We're going to have you back on because you're good at this political commentary stuff.

01:11:38.000 So we'll have you back on again soon.

01:11:40.000 God bless you and congrats.

01:11:41.000 Lord bless you and keep you.

01:11:42.000 I'm so thankful for what God is doing in and through Turning Point to raise up a new standard and a new generation of followers of Christ and patriots.

The Charlie Kirk Show - March 04, 2026

James Talarico, False Moderate and False Prophet

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