The Charlie Kirk Show - Jared Kushner | An Insider’s Preview of the 2020 RNC + How to Secure Peace in the Middle East

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00:00:08.000 Today on the Charlie Kirk Show, Jared Kushner, senior advisor to the President of the United States, joins us exclusively to talk about the Israel-United Arab Emirates peace deal.

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00:01:27.000 Hey, everybody.

00:01:28.000 Welcome to this episode of the Charlie Kirk Show.

00:01:30.000 We are honored to be joined by senior advisor to the President of the United States, Jared Kushner.

00:01:35.000 Jared is a friend of mine, and he does extraordinary work for our country and for our president.

00:01:41.000 Jared, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show.

00:01:43.000 Thank you, Charlie.

00:01:43.000 It's great to be with you, and thank you for all that you do.

00:01:46.000 I've really enjoyed watching you grow over the last years and your organization, the work that you've done, and you've really are a dynamo.

00:01:53.000 So you have my total respect and appreciation.

00:01:56.000 Well, thank you, Jared.

00:01:57.000 So I'm going to read from CNN here, and I want to congratulate you and your team on how hard you have worked on this Israel-United Arab Emirates peace deal.

00:02:06.000 It says, the impending peace agreement between the UAE and Israel is a game changer for the entire Middle East.

00:02:12.000 That's CNN.

00:02:13.000 Jared, first, again, congratulations.

00:02:15.000 I know you and Avi and your whole team have been working diligently over the last couple of years on this.

00:02:20.000 Can you just walk us through some of the backstory of how this deal was done and the geopolitical significance of it?

00:02:26.000 Absolutely.

00:02:27.000 And first of all, whenever I get a question that starts with, I'm going to read you something from CNN, it doesn't usually go that way.

00:02:33.000 So, but this was something that really was so widely praised and appreciated by everybody because it's peace.

00:02:40.000 Who can be against peace?

00:02:41.000 Although there are a few people who have been against peace, but this obviously has been a great progress.

00:02:47.000 So President Trump was able to negotiate the first peace agreement between Israel and the United Arab Emirates.

00:02:54.000 So it's the first peace agreement in the Middle East in 26 years and obviously was a big breakthrough.

00:03:00.000 Again, you'd speak to a younger audience, and what you find a lot is that younger people want different things than older people.

00:03:07.000 And the Middle East is changing. 0.52

00:03:09.000 They've had 20 years of being stuck in a quagmire where you have all of these different interests that are looking to divide people and hold people back.

00:03:18.000 The previous administration had left the Middle East in a total mess.

00:03:21.000 They made the Iran deal, which was terrible. 0.52

00:03:23.000 It put Iran on a pathway to a nuclear weapon.

00:03:26.000 It gave them $150 billion. 0.63

00:03:28.000 They used a lot of that money to fund their proxies. 0.93

00:03:30.000 And if you look at the Middle East, everywhere where there's failure, it's really where Iran is. 0.89

00:03:34.000 So if you look at Lebanon, it's a failed state. 1.00

00:03:36.000 Thank you to Iran. 0.99

00:03:38.000 You had Iraq was falling apart, which allowed ISIS to form. 0.81

00:03:42.000 Obviously, Yemen fell apart too, and Syria fell apart in Libya. 0.96

00:03:45.000 So you have Iran's hand in a lot of the chaos that really has ensued. 0.92

00:03:50.000 President Trump came in and he really galvanized the region around how do we find common areas of objective. 0.85

00:03:55.000 And in order to have prosperity, which everyone wants, we need to have a common security architecture and we need to stop these old conflicts.

00:04:04.000 So we called this the Abraham Accords because it was about bringing people of all faiths, you know, Christians, Jews, Muslims together to realize that we have so much that we want in common that we want together.

00:04:16.000 Younger generations want to have a better job.

00:04:18.000 They want to have a better life.

00:04:19.000 And it's about making that the priority focus.

00:04:22.000 So in this deal, getting Israel to come together with the United Arab Emirates, that hopefully will be the crack in the dam that allows for other Arab countries to do the same. 0.59

00:04:31.000 And it will just change the Middle East in terms of what the discussion is.

00:04:35.000 So instead of being focused on old conflicts, hopefully people can get really focused on pursuing new opportunities.

00:04:41.000 It's incredible.

00:04:42.000 And having visited Israel a couple of times, I was there when the embassy was moved to Jerusalem.

00:04:46.000 I have seen how the region has gone from one where they didn't feel like America was on the side of what was right and what was good in the region instead of was trying to overly pander to Iran to now the tone in the region is a complete and total recalibration for the better.

00:05:01.000 And you're exactly right.

00:05:03.000 You know, visiting Judea and Samaria and some of the young people that live there, you know, the Israelis in particular, they felt as if the prior administration kind of left Israel on a kind of on an island, if you were.

00:05:15.000 And I think the change in this administration's approach, thanks to you and your team, has just been incredible.

00:05:21.000 Can you talk a little bit about how your team was able to pull this off from what you're able to disclose?

00:05:28.000 Because this is not a small accomplishment.

00:05:30.000 I mean, there are thousands of articles, Jared, praising what this has been done from people that were otherwise, but it would have been critics.

00:05:36.000 Even Joe Biden came out and said he kind of almost took credit for it.

00:05:40.000 Yeah, I don't know if you saw that.

00:05:41.000 He was like, oh, it's because of us.

00:05:42.000 I mean, go figure.

00:05:43.000 Can you just give us some insight into how this was negotiated to take an Arab state and the Jewish state to have agreement to actually normalize relations?

00:05:54.000 So I would say the first thing we did, you know, I obviously come from a different background than a lot of the career diplomats.

00:05:54.000 Sure.

00:06:00.000 But the first thing that I did was I went to the region and met with all the different leaders.

00:06:05.000 And the most important thing I did was I tried to listen.

00:06:08.000 And, you know, I feel like a lot of the people have been doing this for a long time.

00:06:11.000 They would come and they knew all the answers and they would try to lecture people on what to do and not to do.

00:06:16.000 But the president's always a he's a pragmatist.

00:06:18.000 He's a deal maker.

00:06:19.000 And the number one thing we did was we really tried to listen and understand what the board looked like today, you know, not what it looked like 20 years ago or what the old grievances were.

00:06:28.000 And pretty quickly, the board became very clear.

00:06:31.000 What we realized was that there were a lot of fractured relationships.

00:06:35.000 And so we started building the relationships back.

00:06:38.000 When President Trump moved the embassy to Jerusalem, a lot of the foreign policy experts criticized him for doing it.

00:06:45.000 People said the world was going to end, which at the end of the day, again, the next morning the sun rose, the next evening, the sun set.

00:06:51.000 And all the fears and predictions didn't happen.

00:06:54.000 But people said he didn't get anything for it.

00:06:56.000 But what President Trump said at the time when we were discussing it in our meetings was he said, well, first of all, you shouldn't get anything for doing the right thing.

00:07:04.000 It's the right thing to do.

00:07:05.000 America is a sovereign nation.

00:07:06.000 We have the right to recognize another sovereign nation's determination as to what their capital is.

00:07:10.000 And there's a historical precedent for it as well, which goes back 12,000 years.

00:07:14.000 So President Trump wanted to do that.

00:07:16.000 He also said, look, I made the promise and I keep my promise.

00:07:19.000 And I know from doing business in that part of the world for a lot of years that if they know that you don't keep your word, then they won't respect you.

00:07:26.000 And even though it will make some people uncomfortable, I want to be known as somebody who keeps my word, not just when it's easy, but more importantly, when it's hard.

00:07:34.000 And so what President Trump actually got was not a traditional diplomatic concession, but he got the respect of the people in the region.

00:07:41.000 And he also got the trust of Israel and of the Israeli politicians and the Israeli public.

00:07:47.000 And they knew that he'd keep his word.

00:07:49.000 When he did things like Golan Heights and then exiting the Iran deal, they also saw that he's somebody who was really going to look out for Israel's security and not push them to do something that would compromise that.

00:07:59.000 And so, again, the steps that the president's taken have all been unorthodox.

00:08:03.000 And there's been a lot of criticism from the career diplomats and from what I call the cottage industry of peace processors along the way.

00:08:11.000 But the reality is that President Trump was able to achieve a different result by taking a different approach.

00:08:16.000 And one of the lines that I would say is, people said my approach was different.

00:08:20.000 I wasn't doing it the right way.

00:08:22.000 And I said, well, look, this is Middle East peace.

00:08:25.000 It's the hardest problem set in the world.

00:08:26.000 It's almost the butt of a joke that you're going to try to make Middle East peace.

00:08:30.000 But the reality is I said, look, there's a high probability of failure.

00:08:33.000 But if I'm going to fail, at least I want to fail in an original way.

00:08:37.000 I want to follow logic, try to do things that make sense.

00:08:41.000 Try not to make the same mistakes that not mistakes, try not to do the same things that have failed in the past and try to bring forward to create a different outcome.

00:08:51.000 And so it was about building trust with the different leaders, really to the point where nothing ever leaked out to the press.

00:08:57.000 They were willing to have free range of discussions with us, we're able to brainstorm together.

00:09:02.000 So it wasn't us versus them.

00:09:03.000 It was us all on the same side of the table saying, how do we, we all agree on what we want to accomplish.

00:09:09.000 How do we work together to try to accomplish those objectives?

00:09:12.000 And so it was a collaborative effort and it was a very creative effort.

00:09:15.000 And ultimately, it took a lot of courage from Prime Minister Benjamin Etanyahu and the Crown Prince Mohammed Bin Zayed from the United Arab Emirates.

00:09:24.000 No doubt. 0.98

00:09:25.000 And it was a recognition that Iran was the number one threat in the region.

00:09:28.000 And actually that Israel and the UAE, there's no reason why they should not have some sort of normalized ties.

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00:10:27.000 And again, I want to just reinforce to our listeners, there are a lot of younger listeners, Jared, that are still learning about kind of the geopolitical complexity of the region.

00:10:36.000 I just have to reinforce how big of a deal this is historically.

00:10:39.000 I mean, every president has made some sort of an approach to try to get something like this done.

00:10:44.000 And the only thing they're ever able to get done is Israel gives up more land and eventually, you know, the terrorist cells seem to get more emboldened.

00:10:52.000 This was not the case.

00:10:53.000 This was actually such a massive breakthrough that even the career diplomats, as you put them, they would not have been able to negotiate this for the couple decades.

00:11:03.000 So Jared, I want to get into some points.

00:11:06.000 It's you have a younger audience.

00:11:07.000 What I would just say is that I think that for the younger generation, I think this is also a great thing to show that if you have an idea and you have a new approach and you're empowered to do it, you obviously need to listen to the advice of people who have done it before.

00:11:22.000 You want to study all the things they've done and you want to be guided by past precedent, but you have to be courageous enough to follow logic and to follow things that you think will work because perspective is a matter of where you stand.

00:11:36.000 And you have some people who have been stuck with a problem for so long that they just see it one way.

00:11:41.000 But when you come in with a fresh perspective, sometimes you're able to accomplish things that other people can't.

00:11:46.000 And so hopefully it's very empowering for the younger generation to realize that we do have the ability to take on some of these great challenges and things that people think can't be solved are solvable.

00:11:57.000 If we are constructive, respectful, we listen, we work together, we study problems and we work hard.

00:12:03.000 So much is possible that maybe some people think is impossible.

00:12:07.000 Totally.

00:12:08.000 And that's a perfect segue to kind of the three things I want to talk about that I believe the president will mention this week during the convention that your team helped pioneer.

00:12:18.000 And that is the new trade negotiation post-NAFTA, the USMCA, also criminal justice reform, the First Step Act, which I think is really amazing.

00:12:28.000 And I want to get into that at length because you were the one that put this forward.

00:12:32.000 And the Democrats were talking about some of these issues when it comes to incarceration, yet they would not recognize at all last week their convention was President Trump who signed the most significant landmark accomplishment legislation when it came to that.

00:12:47.000 And then also, of course, the right to try legislation that I know you were involved with as well.

00:12:52.000 Can you just start with the USMCA and then get to the First Step Act as to just reminding the American people as we enter this political season of how the president has taken that creative and disruptive approach?

00:13:03.000 And I know you've played a very important role in that.

00:13:06.000 Sure.

00:13:06.000 So, you know, trade policy was not something I knew much about, obviously, coming to Washington, but I didn't appreciate how much it impacts all of us.

00:13:15.000 So if you think about the big debate in Washington, you've had politicians saying that they're for the American worker, but then they would make all these crazy trade deals that basically shipped our factories overseas.

00:13:25.000 So we had the NAFTA trade deal between U.S., Mexico, and Canada in 1994.

00:13:30.000 And then we had China entering the World Trade Organization in 2001, both things actually that were very much pushed by the Democratic Party.

00:13:38.000 And through those trade deals, basically we've had about 70,000 factories that have left our shores and about 5 million jobs.

00:13:47.000 And now the doctrinaires of free trade will basically say that, well, the good news about free trade is the labor cost in different places is lower.

00:13:55.000 And so you end up in a situation where the cost of a t-shirt goes down by a dollar for everybody.

00:14:00.000 And so the net benefit to society is better.

00:14:04.000 But what a lot of these economists have failed to take into account is that there's maybe a distributed winning, but there's big concentrations of where the losses are.

00:14:14.000 So a lot of these communities, whether rural or inner city communities, this is where a lot of the manufacturing was in the 60s and the 70s and the 80s.

00:14:23.000 And then with all these trade deals, a lot of these factories closed, the steel mills closed, the plants closed.

00:14:28.000 And what happened was these communities became hollowed out.

00:14:30.000 There was no plan to transition these workers to a different skill set.

00:14:35.000 So some of them got new jobs, but some of them didn't.

00:14:38.000 Some of them went to crime.

00:14:38.000 Some were addicted to drugs.

00:14:40.000 Some went on government dependencies.

00:14:42.000 And then obviously the reverberations down the generations were quite extreme.

00:14:46.000 So these were policies done by people in Washington who were very disconnected from the people.

00:14:52.000 The Mexico-Canada trade deal, again, President Bush promised to renegotiate it.

00:14:57.000 President Obama promised to renegotiate it.

00:15:00.000 President Trump was the only one who got to Washington and believed that you were actually supposed to keep your promises.

00:15:05.000 And quite frankly, if we knew how difficult it was going to be, maybe he would have rethought it.

00:15:10.000 But it was a Herculean task to do it.

00:15:13.000 And it took us about a year and a half to do.

00:15:16.000 It was around the clock marathon sessions.

00:15:18.000 It's the largest trade deal in the history of the world, $1.3 trillion a year of trade.

00:15:23.000 And what the trade deal that President Trump ultimately got was it'll bring back about 80,000 auto jobs, about 500,000 jobs, and it will add a half a point to GDP to our economy forever just by rebalancing to have more manufacturing in North America.

00:15:39.000 It was the first trade deal in over 20 years that the labor unions endorsed because it was very pro-worker and it did a lot of things.

00:15:46.000 It had the strongest environmental protections of any trade deal in history that were enforceable, the strongest pro-worker enforcements.

00:15:53.000 And it was phenomenal for America's farmers and ranchers.

00:15:56.000 So President Trump cut a hard deal.

00:15:59.000 You heard a lot of squealing in Washington because he was threatening to terminate these deals or he was threatening to impose tariffs and he did impose tariffs, which again made people uncomfortable.

00:16:09.000 But if people are comfortable, then they're never going to make change.

00:16:11.000 So President Trump's negotiating style is he'll eliminate the status quo because in Washington, everyone can complain about the status quo.

00:16:19.000 But then when it takes, you know, then when you want to change it, you know, everyone gets scared of the risk that it takes to get there.

00:16:25.000 So President Trump eliminates the status quo.

00:16:27.000 And then as a business guy, he'll do everything possible to mitigate the risk and then everything possible to lubricate the good outcome that you're trying to accomplish.

00:16:34.000 And so that deal was just a masterclass in negotiation.

00:16:38.000 And ultimately, President Trump made a phenomenal deal.

00:16:41.000 And he's, again, most people make one trade deal every 10 years.

00:16:44.000 President Trump did a trade deal with Mexico, a trade deal with Canada, a trade deal with China, a trade deal with Japan, a trade deal with South Korea.

00:16:51.000 And he's opened more markets for American products than anyone before.

00:16:56.000 So I do believe that trade is essential.

00:16:58.000 It keeps the jobs and the wealth in the country.

00:17:01.000 And President Trump's the first, you know, I heard Bernie Sanders talking at the convention about trade deals.

00:17:07.000 And I respect Bernie has a point of view that's consistent for many years.

00:17:11.000 He's always been about the American worker.

00:17:13.000 But the reality is that President Trump's the first president to ever put in place pro-worker trade policies along the lines of what he's been talking about for a long time.

00:17:22.000 So again, I think that Washington's a funny place.

00:17:25.000 You have to, you know, again, for me, it was definitely an adjustment period.

00:17:28.000 You were one of the few people who believed in me in the beginning, and I appreciate that, Charlie.

00:17:33.000 But what I found here is you have a lot of people who can tell you how the world should be.

00:17:38.000 You have a lot of moralists who will lecture you on what's right or wrong.

00:17:41.000 But what you really need is a very strong sense of pragmatism and people who are willing to break a little bit of China to figure out how to get to a good outcome.

00:17:49.000 And that trade deal was a major win for America and something, again, that only President Trump was able to accomplish.

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00:19:24.000 What was incredible is there are so many of these things happen simultaneously, right?

00:19:27.000 So you were negotiating the Emirati-Israeli deal.

00:19:31.000 You were trying to get the first step back pass, which I want to talk about.

00:19:34.000 You were getting the USMCA.

00:19:36.000 Meanwhile, you also secured the Olympics and the World Cup.

00:19:39.000 Not little things.

00:19:40.000 I mean, any other administration would have just had like, let's just focus on our entire executive branch government on this singular issue.

00:19:48.000 Can you quickly talk about the First Step Act, Jared?

00:19:51.000 And then I want to transition to how we are going to communicate all of these victories to the American people politically, especially as we are kind of going through convention week.

00:20:00.000 Because one of my frustrations is so many people that are open-minded.

00:20:06.000 They need to hear more about this incredible policy portfolio that you and your team and the president have been able to accomplish.

00:20:12.000 That truly is unprecedented.

00:20:13.000 So can you talk about the First Step Act and how that is in contrast to just some of the endless bluster of the Democrats that talk a good game on these issues, but in reality delivered nothing?

00:20:24.000 Sure.

00:20:24.000 So again, the First Step Act is the largest criminal justice reform in history.

00:20:30.000 And, you know, President Trump, when he ran for office, he promised to fight for the forgotten men and women of this country.

00:20:36.000 And, you know, what we did was we basically studied a lot of issues and we thought what could be.

00:20:42.000 My father spent a year in prison and obviously it was a very emotional time for me and my family and something that taught me a lot about the world and really helped form who I am.

00:20:52.000 And so for whatever reason, I went from a place where 10 years prior, I was visiting my father in a federal prison every week.

00:20:59.000 And then 10 years later, for, you know, really through the grace of God, I was sitting in the office next to the president of the United States.

00:21:06.000 And I got a call from Senator Grassley and Senator Durbin saying we'd really like to do something on this where we can fix some of these laws that were put in place in 1994, actually led by Joe Biden.

00:21:18.000 He bragged about writing these laws.

00:21:20.000 And these laws created disproportionate sentences for crack versus cocaine and did a lot of things that basically resulted in putting a lot of black men in jail for very, very long periods of time.

00:21:33.000 And so it was this tough on crime notion that went a little bit too far and had a lot of racial consequences to it.

00:21:41.000 So they said we want to try to fix it and then also figure out how we can do better job rehabilitating people who are in prison.

00:21:48.000 Because people who are leaving prison, you have to think about what's the purpose of a prison?

00:21:52.000 Is it to punish somebody?

00:21:53.000 Is it to warehouse somebody?

00:21:54.000 Or is it to rehabilitate somebody?

00:21:56.000 And I believe that it should be to rehabilitate because if you're in a business and you know where your future customers are coming from, that's where you market to.

00:22:04.000 We know where a lot of our future criminals are coming from.

00:22:06.000 They're in our prisons.

00:22:07.000 So while they're in our custody, we should be spending the time, the resource, and the money to figure out how do you help them not become future criminals so that you have less crime in society and you don't have to spend the money housing them and detaining them.

00:22:21.000 And so I was able to get some buy-in from the Hill and study what's the right way to do it.

00:22:25.000 I saw a lot of conservative support, a lot of liberal support, and I really tried to build a coalition.

00:22:31.000 At first, a lot of people on the left were not willing to work with the White House just because they were afraid of politics.

00:22:38.000 Again, I was asked the other day, but Senator Harris, I reached out to her office because she talked about criminal justice reform.

00:22:44.000 And I said, can we do a meeting?

00:22:45.000 I want to try to bring the sides together.

00:22:47.000 And she wouldn't even take a meeting on it.

00:22:49.000 So she was too afraid to try to have the dialogue that could have made progress on an issue that she cared about.

00:22:55.000 And I believe that the real champions in Washington are the people who will put the politics aside and focus on the objectives.

00:23:01.000 And they don't mind if they get hit a little bit.

00:23:02.000 I get hit all the time.

00:23:04.000 But whenever I get hit, I say, well, if I wasn't making a difference, then they wouldn't want to attack me as much.

00:23:09.000 And so you have to be for progress.

00:23:11.000 So we made a lot of progress.

00:23:13.000 We got a bipartisan group together.

00:23:15.000 We outlined what the appropriate reforms would be.

00:23:17.000 But then we had to take it to the president.

00:23:19.000 And President Trump being a builder, I really had no experience with the prison system.

00:23:24.000 And I need to explain to him, you're a tough on crime law and order president, but this is why it makes sense.

00:23:31.000 And basically, we explained to him that a lot of these people leaving prison, if we're not helping them get jobs and rehabilitate and figure out how to housing and figure out how to re-enter society, then you're basically predetermining that they're going to commit crimes in the future because they don't have a choice.

00:23:45.000 And so he saw it right away and he says, I want to fix this.

00:23:49.000 Let's do it.

00:23:49.000 Give it everything I got.

00:23:50.000 And when President Trump got involved and endorsed it, things started moving tremendously.

00:23:55.000 And we had a couple of people who tried to fight us.

00:23:57.000 Like, you know, like Attorney General Sessions was very anti-it, but ultimately we were able to work through it.

00:24:03.000 And thanks to President Trump's leadership, we were able to get it passed with a massive majority.

00:24:07.000 And then 10 states did copycat legislation.

00:24:10.000 So again, I really believe that a lot of families were impacted.

00:24:16.000 When somebody goes to prison, it's hard on them, but it's also very hard on their family and their friends and their community.

00:24:21.000 But this gave a lot of hope to people in prison.

00:24:23.000 And it showed that if you do things right, you can have a second chance.

00:24:29.000 And so President Trump's been a strong proponent for second chances.

00:24:32.000 And again, I heard the Democrat convention last week where they're talking about racial injustice and inequality and all these different things.

00:24:38.000 Well, you don't solve that by complaining.

00:24:40.000 You solve it with policies.

00:24:42.000 And what President Trump has done over the last years is methodically lay out a set of policies to start try to address these injustices.

00:24:49.000 And he's made more progress in three years than all these politicians who have been lecturing on this in the last 30 years.

00:24:55.000 And so I think that it's a major accomplishment for President Trump, but hopefully just the beginning of what he's capable of doing to really correct some of these wrongs that do exist, unfortunately, in our country.

00:25:08.000 I think that's a perfect transition, Jared.

00:25:10.000 I was so enthused when I saw the email come out from either the campaign or the White House, the press release, of President Trump's second term promises.

00:25:18.000 And whether it was teaching our kids American exceptionalism, school choice, which I am very enthusiastic about, which I believe could be one of the winning issues for the president coming into this election.

00:25:30.000 Also, being, I believe there was a phrase that was used, being the drugstore of the world, which I love.

00:25:35.000 I just love that kind of imagery.

00:25:37.000 Can you talk about the president's second term promises?

00:25:40.000 Because this presidency has been very eventful.

00:25:43.000 You guys have been through so much, more so than I think any other team has had to endure, whether it be the fake impeachment, the Mueller investigation, and then, of course, the virus, the lockdowns, and the recovery from it.

00:25:54.000 In a lot of ways, the president has to communicate like he's going to rebuild the country from something that damage that the country has never really seen before in such a short period of time.

00:26:05.000 Can you talk a little bit about the policy promises that the president laid out?

00:26:09.000 And I think he did a great job on Steve Hilton's show around these sort of second term objectives.

00:26:16.000 Sure.

00:26:17.000 Let me talk about the macro before I get into the micro.

00:26:20.000 I think the macro is that, you know, President Trump believes that, you know, based on his policies, it actually will be not easy, but it will be very achievable to recover very, very quickly from this economic downturn.

00:26:32.000 And, you know, if you think about it, the coronavirus is leading to the acceleration of a lot of different trends.

00:26:37.000 So there were trends towards digitalization that's now accelerating thanks to the virus.

00:26:43.000 And so, you know, strength of a country is really a relative term.

00:26:48.000 Strength is a relative measure.

00:26:50.000 And so, you know, if we do this correct, you know, America can emerge from this way stronger in the world than before.

00:26:56.000 If we do this wrong, though, America can emerge much weaker in relative power relative to the world.

00:27:01.000 So what we've done is we've already started some of the most important aspects.

00:27:05.000 Obviously, we did the economic stimulus, which really saved our economy.

00:27:09.000 We had some very dark and uncertain days, but thanks to the way that the president solved it, it looks like we're heading towards a V-shaped recovery, which is excellent for our country. 0.99

00:27:20.000 We've really accelerated the onshoring. 0.57

00:27:22.000 America can't be reliant on foreign countries for a lot of these goods. 0.93

00:27:26.000 We created Operation Airbridge, which basically was bringing flights that were just going back and forth over from Asia to get a lot of goods that we don't make in America over here.

00:27:36.000 While simultaneously, we've opened a ton of factories here in America to make masks and gowns and tests and all the different things that we need.

00:27:43.000 Also, drugs.

00:27:45.000 We want to be making all of our pharmaceuticals here in America as well.

00:27:48.000 So the ability to do advanced manufacturing, if you think about advanced manufacturing, the components really are low-cost energy and high-skill labor, right?

00:27:59.000 So the reason why a lot of our factories moved overseas is to chase low-skilled labor.

00:28:03.000 But as robots and technology have developed, the component of manufacturing that's made up by people is actually smaller.

00:28:11.000 So you can make up with a lot more with robots and with advanced manufacturing.

00:28:16.000 And if you have a high-skill population, you can train people to do it well.

00:28:19.000 So America is actually poised to be a leader in advanced manufacturing because of our low-cost energy and our great workforce.

00:28:27.000 We just need to be oriented towards it.

00:28:29.000 But so we've taken a lot of steps to do that.

00:28:31.000 And President Trump's fully committed to bring all of our jobs back and bring our manufacturing back and making America a net exporter of many of these critical goods because people don't want to be reliant on other countries.

00:28:44.000 They like their trading relationships with America.

00:28:46.000 And as we've reduced a lot of the trade barriers with other countries by taking a tough approach, we now have access to more markets than we've had in a long time.

00:28:54.000 So I think that macro-wise, he believes that we have the right opportunity to really thrive as a country and be even better off than we were before.

00:29:02.000 And we've already put those policies in place.

00:29:03.000 The deregulation that the president's done has allowed the economy to roar.

00:29:08.000 We're working on a lot of different aspects that we believe will make a big difference.

00:29:12.000 Healthcare, President Trump's taken on the drug companies.

00:29:15.000 He's taken on the hospitals to create price transparency, which will, again, he's all about make sure that the patient has as much choice as possible and the lowest cost possible.

00:29:25.000 And so no matter what insurance you're on, he wants you to have more choice, lower costs.

00:29:29.000 And again, because President Trump wasn't from Washington, he took on all the lobbyists and the people who have been here for a while. 0.86

00:29:36.000 And he's done some incredibly disruptive things that, quite frankly, nobody had the balls to do before.

00:29:41.000 So healthcare-wise, his policies have been tremendous, and he's creating a much more efficient marketplace in quite an inefficient area.

00:29:49.000 School choice is something that you mentioned, which I think is critical.

00:29:52.000 And that's, you know, in a lot of the inner cities, you have a lot of failing schools.

00:29:56.000 And what happens is, is we want to create an incentive for these local communities in order to give each parent the money that they would get for school and let them choose which school they go to to create a competition for which schools can be excellent.

00:30:11.000 And the truth is, is that we can do a lot from Washington, but we're also going to need the local communities to rise up and come together and to take control locally.

00:30:20.000 And we'll be the best partner that they have to execute that.

00:30:23.000 But we can't want these local communities to want better schools more than they want better schools.

00:30:28.000 And I believe that we have the right plan to partner with local communities to figure out how we can push that forward.

00:30:34.000 The economy, again, President Trump knows how to create jobs, knows how to build an economy, and he'll do that well.

00:30:39.000 And he's got a lot of different issues.

00:30:41.000 So I think that if you think about also foreign policy-wise, President Trump's policy has been America first.

00:30:47.000 We have knock on wood.

00:30:50.000 We've had no troops killed in Afghanistan since February.

00:30:52.000 We have a peace outline. 0.77

00:30:55.000 Hopefully we'll see that finalized and we'll see our troops home. 0.59

00:30:58.000 I think we're down to about 4,000 troops in Afghanistan now.

00:31:01.000 And that's a war we've been in.

00:31:03.000 I mean, great nations cannot fight endless wars.

00:31:06.000 It just bleeds your treasury.

00:31:08.000 And obviously, we can't be putting American soldiers at risk.

00:31:12.000 We've lost too many soldiers in areas like that.

00:31:15.000 And in the Middle East, the president's obviously made the historic peace agreement we spoke about earlier.

00:31:20.000 He's strengthened our allies.

00:31:21.000 He's brought them together.

00:31:22.000 He's weakened our enemies.

00:31:23.000 And he's trying also to bring our troops home.

00:31:27.000 So, and then with trade deals, President Trump's opening markets and he's stopping other countries from taking advantage of us.

00:31:32.000 So, what I saw with a lot of these foreign countries is that they love the arrangements that they have with America.

00:31:38.000 And so, their whole goal has been just a tap, tap, tap, run out the clock. 1.00

00:31:42.000 And, you know, they drag on.

00:31:43.000 But President Trump, again, he forces action.

00:31:46.000 And, you know, all the people who have said, well, Washington's been noisy the last couple of years.

00:31:50.000 We've seen a lot of activity.

00:31:51.000 There's too much chaos.

00:31:52.000 Well, that's because President Trump is keeping his promises and he's making people very uncomfortable because he's trying to bring change.

00:31:58.000 But the net result for his shareholders, which are the American people, is that you're going to have better jobs, more access to capital, better trading opportunities, a better economy, better health care, and the opportunity to live a better life.

00:32:11.000 And so the one final thing we were talking before about the inner cities.

00:32:16.000 President Trump does have a whole agenda for the inner cities to really reach out to non-traditional Republican voters, but to work on all the fairness issues.

00:32:24.000 So again, I heard the Democratic Convention.

00:32:27.000 It was a fairly dark depiction of America, the Republican Convention.

00:32:30.000 It's going to be a very proud expression of how much we love America.

00:32:35.000 We're proud of America.

00:32:36.000 We think America is great.

00:32:37.000 It can be even greater.

00:32:38.000 We're going to lay out a lot of policy prescriptions for things that we can do that will make a big difference.

00:32:43.000 And I think that his vision for America is incredible and the policies that he put forward are great.

00:32:49.000 But I will just warn you: don't feel constrained to that list because, as the president says all the time, I think I've kept more promises than I made.

00:32:56.000 So even though he's promising to do those things, I have no doubt he'll execute them.

00:33:00.000 But hopefully he'll do way more as more ideas and opportunities emerge.

00:33:05.000 I totally agree.

00:33:06.000 And the president even said today, he said, where's Joe Biden's list of judges?

00:33:10.000 I think that's such a winning message, I have to say.

00:33:13.000 Putting Joe Biden and his campaign on defense on the type of judges they'll put on the courts is a winning message.

00:33:18.000 And I love the stance against the hospital lobby and the pharmaceutical lobby and also to end the endless wars.

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00:34:18.000 Jared, in closing, final question.

00:34:20.000 Can you just give us an analysis of how you guys are viewing the race?

00:34:23.000 A lot of our listeners, we get thousands and thousands of emails a week of people that are a little anxious, to be honest.

00:34:29.000 And I'm constantly communicating how polling is done and how our enthusiasm is off the charts and how I think actually things are breaking in the favor of the president.

00:34:38.000 In your capacity that you're able to, can you just give us some of your analysis of how you're viewing the race and how you think things are trending?

00:34:47.000 Sure.

00:34:48.000 So first of all, I don't mind that people are anxious.

00:34:50.000 It's good for you to be anxious.

00:34:52.000 You know, we've got to work hard.

00:34:54.000 We can't take anything for granted.

00:34:55.000 We have to make sure that we're doing everything possible to increase our chances.

00:35:00.000 But I will say that we like where we are relative to four years ago.

00:35:03.000 We've got a tremendous operation in the field.

00:35:05.000 We're very well funded as a campaign.

00:35:07.000 And quite frankly, we have a great message and a better messenger than last time.

00:35:12.000 We're very excited that the convention's over.

00:35:15.000 The president was a little nervous that actually they wouldn't allow Joe Biden to go forward and be the nominee.

00:35:20.000 So he's quite happy that that's done.

00:35:22.000 Now, I think we're going to see a real conflict of ideas.

00:35:25.000 We're seeing the virus, the coronavirus start to come under control a little bit more.

00:35:30.000 Cases are going down.

00:35:31.000 Deaths are plateauing, which is good.

00:35:33.000 And we're seeing, again, our economy continues to stay open, which is very important.

00:35:37.000 And more therapeutics are being advanced.

00:35:40.000 Yesterday, we announced convalescent plasma, which is tremendous.

00:35:43.000 And with the vaccine, the fastest vaccine ever to development was 13 months to phase three.

00:35:49.000 And we did the first one in four months.

00:35:51.000 And then we have three vaccines right now that are in phase three trials.

00:35:55.000 And we're mass producing six vaccines so that the first one that can prove efficacy and safety will be able to start injecting right away.

00:36:02.000 So we will have a vaccine by the end of the year.

00:36:04.000 And we're feeling quite optimistic about that.

00:36:08.000 With regards to the race, I'll just point you.

00:36:10.000 I mean, people get scared because they see the public polls.

00:36:13.000 In 2016, if you look at the public polls in Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania between Labor Day and the end of the campaign.

00:36:21.000 And the reason I say that is because right now a lot of the polls are not using likely voters, which is obviously the barometer you should use.

00:36:28.000 But let's take the polls between Labor Day and Election Day.

00:36:32.000 There's 120 in those three states.

00:36:34.000 Out of those 120, only one had Donald Trump winning those states.

00:36:37.000 He ended up winning all three of those states.

00:36:39.000 I do think that the public polling has done more of advocacy.

00:36:42.000 If you think about 2016, many of the pollsters and many members of the media just got the race totally wrong.

00:36:48.000 And nobody was fired.

00:36:49.000 Nobody was admonished.

00:36:50.000 Nobody apologized and said they basically said, well, we weren't wrong.

00:36:53.000 It was Russia that tilled the election for them.

00:36:56.000 And then they investigated us for two years and legal fees and headaches later.

00:36:59.000 They found, well, actually, Russia had nothing to do with Donald Trump winning.

00:37:03.000 He won because he had a better message, a better campaign, and America wanted an outsider like him.

00:37:09.000 So I think it's the same thing now.

00:37:10.000 There's a tremendous amount of enthusiasm.

00:37:12.000 Our polls show that in all the swing states that Trump won last time, he's either ahead or he's within the margin.

00:37:20.000 But we're seeing tremendous trends.

00:37:21.000 There was just a poll in Minnesota that showed him even.

00:37:23.000 Michigan's gone from showing him 14 down to now basically even.

00:37:28.000 And we're seeing that all throughout the Midwest.

00:37:30.000 And I think that the American people, they want to see a president that's going to stand with the police.

00:37:35.000 They know that Donald Trump can bring back jobs.

00:37:37.000 And they realize that the Democrats, the only thing that they have to offer is that they don't like Donald Trump.

00:37:42.000 But that's not enough to explain to people what their vision is for the country.

00:37:45.000 And at the end of the day, the president has a vision.

00:37:48.000 It's a clear vision.

00:37:49.000 Nothing's hidden, right?

00:37:50.000 You know, you don't have to guess what he's thinking.

00:37:52.000 Just look on Twitter.

00:37:53.000 You don't have to guess what his policies are.

00:37:54.000 Just look at what he said.

00:37:56.000 But he's got a very clear and effective way for America.

00:37:59.000 And the one thing with President Trump as well is that if he gives a promise, you know he's going to keep that promise, unlike most politicians.

00:38:05.000 So he demands results.

00:38:07.000 He gets things done.

00:38:08.000 And so we feel really good.

00:38:10.000 I think that if you look at the states, you used to go state by state, obviously, Florida.

00:38:15.000 We won that last time by more than by a lot of votes.

00:38:18.000 I believe we're going to win this time by more.

00:38:20.000 Same with Ohio.

00:38:21.000 North Carolina and Georgia, you know, we think are looking very good.

00:38:24.000 Arizona, the same.

00:38:25.000 And then you need to break, you know, one of the states in the Midwest.

00:38:28.000 But we also have new states on the map this time that we didn't win last time.

00:38:31.000 Like we're playing in Minnesota.

00:38:33.000 Last time we had one staff from Minnesota.

00:38:36.000 This time we have 80.

00:38:37.000 We think that that's a state that could really break for Donald Trump.

00:38:40.000 Same with New Hampshire, same with Maine, same with Colorado, same with Nevada.

00:38:44.000 So we've got a lot of states, same with New Mexico, a lot of states that we didn't play last time, but because of the advanced notice we've had and because of the resources, we're playing in all those states.

00:38:55.000 And we think that there's a big rush of enthusiasm for Donald Trump.

00:39:00.000 And like I said, the polls are funny, but there's only one poll that counts, and that's the election.

00:39:06.000 So I am hopeful that people will come out and vote for the person that they believe will make the country achieve its potential and help them live better lives.

00:39:15.000 And I think that that's a very, very clear contrast in this election.

00:39:19.000 Well, I totally agree.

00:39:21.000 And Jared, thank you.

00:39:22.000 I say all that in my personal capacity.

00:39:24.000 That's right.

00:39:24.000 All of that is in your personal capacity.

00:39:26.000 I want to make sure I preface that as well.

00:39:28.000 Well, Jared, you have an incredibly busy portfolio of things to continue to help save the country.

00:39:32.000 We're so thankful that you were so generous of your time.

00:39:35.000 Big week with the RNC.

00:39:37.000 We're all going to be watching.

00:39:38.000 And I think this is going to be a double-digit point bump for the president and for Republicans.

00:39:42.000 And I think things are trending the right direction.

00:39:44.000 And congratulations on all that you and your team have accomplished.

00:39:48.000 Great, Charlie.

00:39:48.000 And really, congratulations to you and your team as well.

00:39:51.000 You guys are doing great work, and it's an honor to work together.

00:39:53.000 And I look forward to many, many great successes together for years to come.

00:39:57.000 Four more of them.

00:39:58.000 All right, Jared.

00:39:59.000 Thanks so much.

00:39:59.000 I appreciate it.

00:40:00.000 Speak to you soon.

00:40:01.000 Thanks.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - August 25, 2020

Jared Kushner | An Insider’s Preview of the 2020 RNC + How to Secure Peace in the Middle East

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