The Charlie Kirk Show - JD's Great Anti-Fraud Crusade + AMA 266

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00:01:17.000 All right, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.

00:01:19.000 It's Friday, May 15th.

00:01:20.000 We're here at the Y Refi Studios in Phoenix, Arizona.

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00:01:30.000 But I want to get started right away here.

00:01:32.000 We've got Andrew Ferguson.

00:01:33.000 He is the FTC chairman, and he's also the vice chair of the Anti Fraud Task Force that.

00:01:41.000 JD Vance is chairing.

00:01:42.000 He's vice chair.

00:01:43.000 I want to get right into it because we have limited time.

00:01:45.000 So, welcome to the show, Mr. Andrew Ferguson, chairman of the FTC.

00:01:49.000 How are you, sir?

00:01:50.000 Doing well.

00:01:50.000 Thanks for having me.

00:01:51.000 Well, we are so proud to have you and honored to have you because you are doing the people's work.

00:01:57.000 I think when we look around the federal government and we see what you are doing to counter fraud in states like Minneapolis and California and Maine and elsewhere, New York, it literally makes my heart happy because this is why we elect.

00:02:13.000 President Trump in November of 2024 to do the people's business and to take back what is being robbed and ripped off from us, the taxpayers of this country, oftentimes by foreign people that should not be here, that are taking advantage of our generosity.

00:02:28.000 Sir, the floor is yours.

00:02:30.000 Tell us why you agreed to be vice chair of this task force and what you guys are accomplishing.

00:02:35.000 Spike the football, sir.

00:02:37.000 Well, I think generally, if the president asks you to help your country, you stand, salute, and do your job.

00:02:42.000 And when he asked me to take this on, You know, I said yes.

00:02:47.000 And I think this is one of the most important initiatives that President Trump has put forth in either of his terms, because this fraud is bleeding the country dry.

00:02:58.000 And this isn't just a like financial issue.

00:03:02.000 Our society, the society we inherited as part of Western civilization is premised on neighbors being able to trust each other on basic issues, that we don't have to constantly check everything that everybody is doing.

00:03:16.000 that there has to be some level of mutual trust.

00:03:19.000 The West, Western civilization requires high trust societies.

00:03:23.000 If elements of society are bleeding the rest of us dry, we will lose trust in each other.

00:03:30.000 We will lose faith in our government and we will lose faith in the American experiment.

00:03:35.000 And so this isn't just about putting money back in the pockets of Americans from whom it was stolen, although that's an important part.

00:03:41.000 This is about restoring the trust that is necessary for American civilization, for Western civilization to survive at all.

00:03:50.000 And that is why only President Trump could have done this.

00:03:53.000 No other president has taken the civilizational mission of the United States as seriously as President Trump.

00:03:59.000 And if we're going to continue carrying out that mission here and everywhere else, we have to restore trust.

00:04:05.000 And so that, just as much as the finances, just as much as going after the criminals, that's why this effort is so important.

00:04:13.000 I think that's so spot on.

00:04:15.000 I think we don't give enough credit to the fact that our civilization only exists if the people have confidence in it, right?

00:04:22.000 And that we trust that the system is being followed.

00:04:25.000 I mean, Charlie used to talk about anarcho tyranny.

00:04:28.000 Where the state would go after the law abiding and they would allow the chaos agents to roam free with impunity.

00:04:35.000 That is finally getting flipped.

00:04:36.000 And I think it's critically important.

00:04:38.000 If you're going to ask somebody to pay their taxes, you better darn well believe that that money is being put to good use and that the bad guys aren't getting free reign to rip you off and take advantage of your generosity.

00:04:48.000 So I completely, I salute your ideological framework and the premise from which you're operating, sir.

00:04:54.000 I want to ask you, give us some examples because I've seen, I was looking at your X feed this morning.

00:04:59.000 You've got HSI involved.

00:05:01.000 I know Secretary Besant has been involved at Treasury.

00:05:05.000 You guys are using the DOJ.

00:05:07.000 There's a task force there.

00:05:10.000 Explain how the whole of government approach is being utilized and why that's so critical to success here.

00:05:16.000 The only way to fix this problem is to have every element of the government with some responsibility working hand in hand with all the other parts of the government.

00:05:24.000 And that's why only the vice president could lead this task force.

00:05:28.000 You need someone with the gravitas and the capability to stand above everybody else and say, this is how it's going to be.

00:05:35.000 Everyone needs to work together.

00:05:37.000 Everyone needs to share information, share resources in order to get this done.

00:05:41.000 And that is why it's so important that Vice President Vance is doing this, and only he could.

00:05:46.000 And you really need to think about this as like a two prong approach.

00:05:50.000 Prong one is bad guys go to jail.

00:05:55.000 And that is DOJ's job.

00:05:57.000 DHS is doing very important work on that front too, with HSI, who has remarkable investigators and lawyers at their disposal. 0.87

00:06:05.000 But at the end of the day, people who steal from the citizens of the United States, especially if you are here as a guest of the American citizens, you are going to get caught and your butt's going to jail.

00:06:16.000 And that's DOJ's job.

00:06:17.000 The second thing we got to do is we have to stop the bleeding.

00:06:21.000 It's impossible to stop fraud if your theory of fraud stopping is let the money all go out the door and then we'll go chase the bad guys.

00:06:28.000 There's too many bad guys.

00:06:29.000 It's too much money.

00:06:31.000 And a lot of that money just vanishes.

00:06:33.000 It leaves the shores of the United States.

00:06:34.000 It lines the pockets of the governments of our adversaries.

00:06:38.000 If we want to really stop this problem, we have to stop it in the agencies.

00:06:42.000 And that means that the agencies need sophisticated, advanced, systematic fraud detection networks within their agencies that can tell when someone is probably making a fraudulent claim on a benefits program, whether that's unemployment insurance, SNAP, WIC, TANF, Medicaid, Medicare, doesn't matter.

00:07:01.000 All of that needs to be handled within the agency because once the money goes out the door, it's very hard to get it back.

00:07:07.000 And that is what the task force has been doing.

00:07:09.000 We have technologists. that have been going to these agencies and saying, hey, let us help you harness the power of AI, harness American innovation and technology to build systems that will keep the money from going out the door and actually protect the American taxpayer.

00:07:25.000 And then for that money that does escape, we have DOJ ready to go after these people.

00:07:30.000 They got a huge conviction on a Medicare fraud scheme yesterday that was amounting to almost a billion dollars.

00:07:36.000 DOJ is ready.

00:07:37.000 The task force is in all the agencies helping them build the systems.

00:07:41.000 Treasury, where a lot of these payments Happen.

00:07:43.000 It has sophisticated systems.

00:07:44.000 Treasury's CIO is a former Doge guy.

00:07:48.000 He has built incredibly sophisticated systems to help the other agencies do this.

00:07:53.000 We have in the coming weeks, we'll be announcing a great incentive program for people to come forward as whistleblowers to alert the agencies when they're being ripped off by all sorts of fraudsters.

00:08:03.000 This is going incredibly well.

00:08:05.000 And again, at the end of the day, it's because President Trump stepped in the breach and said, this ain't happening to American citizens anymore, not on my watch.

00:08:14.000 And Vice President Vance is the only guy who can bring all the agencies together and say, we have to work together.

00:08:21.000 We have to solve this problem and we have to solve it right now.

00:08:24.000 Yeah, we love doing the calculation here.

00:08:27.000 We just showed $6.3 billion in fraudulent payment stop.

00:08:30.000 That's what the graphic we had up.

00:08:32.000 And we love the math that's, you pay about, the average person pays about $500,000 in taxes lifetime.

00:08:38.000 So that's the, just with that, the lifetime tax amount of 12,600 people.

00:08:44.000 So, you know, a small town, all their taxes for life covered just by this fraud that people are doing.

00:08:50.000 I love when you bring it back to that.

00:08:52.000 And, uh, Mr. Ferguson here, Chairman Ferguson, you know, we talk about using the power of government.

00:08:59.000 It's a constant theme that conservatives are too scared to use it.

00:09:02.000 You guys just deferred $1.3 billion to California because they're refusing to play ball.

00:09:07.000 15 seconds.

00:09:08.000 How important is that tool in your arsenal?

00:09:10.000 It's critically important.

00:09:11.000 And at the end of the day, what we're trying to do is save these programs.

00:09:14.000 People have been paying into Medicare their entire lives, people have been paying the taxes that fund Medicaid their entire lives.

00:09:22.000 Fraud is going to kill these programs because it siphons money from people who actually need it.

00:09:26.000 The way we're going to save these programs is killing the fraud.

00:09:30.000 That's why these tools are so important.

00:09:32.000 Final thoughts about where you guys are going to go next and what we can hope to achieve through this task force.

00:09:39.000 Well, I want to draw your viewers' attention to one thing that the vice president announced yesterday that is a little wonky, but is really important.

00:09:47.000 All 50 states in D.C. are required to have Medicaid fraud control units.

00:09:52.000 It's prosecutors and investigators whose job is to prevent, investigate, and prosecute Medicaid fraud in their states.

00:10:00.000 And we collectively as taxpayers send about half a billion dollars a year to these units.

00:10:07.000 And the largest chunk of that goes to California.

00:10:10.000 And for years, HHS was basically rubber stamping these units because HHS has to certify that these units are up to snuff.

00:10:18.000 And we announced to all the units yesterday, this isn't happening anymore.

00:10:23.000 And the reason that this is so important is that so many of these units are falling down on the job.

00:10:28.000 And this is a huge problem because part of the way Medicaid is supposed to work is that the states are supposed to partner with the federal government to stop the fraud.

00:10:36.000 But if the states aren't going to partner with the federal government, we're basically giving money to AGs to line their pockets.

00:10:42.000 And fraud is just going unabated because the states aren't lifting their share of the burden.

00:10:47.000 But the other thing that these units are supposed to do is stop elder abuse.

00:10:51.000 It's specifically in the laws creating these units is that one of their jobs is to police elder abuse and elder fraud in facilities that are funded by Medicaid and Medicare.

00:11:01.000 And that's like all of them.

00:11:02.000 And so with these units, especially in states like Hawaii, which has not had a single prosecution in five or single conviction in five years.

00:11:11.000 California, which gets five times as much money as Virginia did under Republican Attorney General A.G. Miarez.

00:11:19.000 And he got five times as much money back for taxpayers as California did.

00:11:23.000 Stopping the fraud is about making sure that people who really need these resources, people who have paid for them, American citizens who need these resources in hard times, that generous Americans have agreed we're willing to help.

00:11:35.000 Can actually get them.

00:11:37.000 If we don't stop the fraud, these programs won't survive.

00:11:40.000 President Trump is trying to save Medicaid, Medicare, and SNAP by stopping the fraud.

00:11:45.000 And that's what this task force is all about.

00:11:47.000 We have your back, sir.

00:11:48.000 Andrew Ferguson, FTC chairman and vice chair of the anti fraud task force, the work to eliminate fraud.

00:11:55.000 It's so critical.

00:11:56.000 I'm so glad you guys are diving in with just such earnest.

00:12:00.000 I think it's so important and so needed.

00:12:01.000 Thank you, sir.

00:12:02.000 God bless you.

00:12:03.000 We have your back.

00:12:05.000 All right.

00:12:05.000 We got to get to another clip.

00:12:08.000 President Trump sat down with Sean Hannity last night, and it was quite the ranging interview.

00:12:14.000 It was long.

00:12:14.000 They talked about a lot of stuff, and I would say 99% of what they discussed.

00:12:18.000 I agreed with.

00:12:19.000 There's one part, however, that I felt was central to some of the things that Charlie spoke about, some of the things that Blake and I both care a lot about, that are just a gentle, gentle correction.

00:12:30.000 And I want to chalk this up to a generational divide, right?

00:12:34.000 Because if you are President Trump, you grew up with the United States university system being the envy of the world.

00:12:40.000 It is the gold standard.

00:12:41.000 It still really is in some ways, in some ways it's not.

00:12:44.000 In some ways it's become corrupt and bloated, which we talked about a lot on this show.

00:12:48.000 But I want to play this clip and I just want to.

00:12:51.000 Offer our counterpoint here.

00:12:53.000 Again, 99% of what President Trump said in that interview was spot on.

00:12:57.000 No issues at all.

00:12:58.000 He's on the point.

00:12:59.000 He's on the game.

00:13:00.000 This one, I just, again, I think it's a generational issue.

00:13:03.000 Place out one.

00:13:05.000 As far as the students, it's 500,000 students they come, good students.

00:13:12.000 I could tell them I don't want any students, it's a very insulting thing to say to a country.

00:13:21.000 They would then immediately go out and start building universities all over China. 0.99

00:13:25.000 But if you don't have those students, good students, by the way, I frankly think that it's good that people come from other countries and they learn our culture, and many of them want to stay here.

00:13:35.000 I think it's good.

00:13:36.000 All right, Blake, your initial reaction.

00:13:40.000 It's a few things.

00:13:40.000 Honestly, the best defense of what the president is saying is we have a really bad trade deficit with China, and one of the few things we export to them is college diplomas.

00:13:50.000 So if they send students here and we can sell them a piece of paper for Tens, hundreds of thousands of dollars. 0.88

00:13:56.000 And well, we're not selling them that many cars.

00:14:00.000 We're not selling them that many manufactured goods.

00:14:03.000 We're maybe selling them a bit of agricultural product.

00:14:04.000 It's one of the few things we still export to China, so to speak.

00:14:07.000 We're towing planes. 0.98

00:14:08.000 That was another deal they did.

00:14:09.000 But the concern is, I mean, he points out they'll start building universities in China.

00:14:12.000 They've already done that.

00:14:14.000 While we've had our universities be sinking under DEI and massive administrative bloat, China's universities are becoming the best in the world, actually.

00:14:23.000 Like, look up Peking University, Tsinghua University.

00:14:26.000 Those are absolute world class. 1.00

00:14:28.000 The best students now stay in China. 0.94

00:14:30.000 We're actually not getting the best students from China anymore. 0.81

00:14:33.000 But the reason China really wants their students to keep coming here, the reason they don't consider that humiliating, the reason China could easily think we want our students to stay in China as much as possible, they like sending them here because they view every young Chinese person as a de facto spy.

00:14:48.000 Even if they're not in the direct employ of Chinese intelligence, they can get on the staff of researchers, they can infiltrate organizations that do sensitive research. 0.73

00:14:59.000 Research, they can steal technology, they can take information and bring it back to China, or even if it's as simple as they can fill a job that otherwise could go to an American who would learn this field, and instead it's being learned by a Chinese person who can go back to China, and America will not have a person capable of doing that. 0.91

00:15:17.000 China does. 0.94

00:15:19.000 And I think all of those factors make it a little worrisome, and it shows why China wants their students to keep coming here so much. 0.99

00:15:25.000 Yeah, I think that's exactly right. 0.95

00:15:26.000 So, a country, this is what was going through my head the whole time, Blake, is that China.

00:15:31.000 Kind of like Iran, they will refuse indignities.

00:15:35.000 They do not want to be humiliated.

00:15:37.000 So, ask yourself, why are they willing to sort of tacitly admit that, oh, America's universities are better?

00:15:44.000 We're sending 500,000 of our students over to America because they have an ulterior motive. 0.77

00:15:48.000 The ulterior motive is to take up space from Americans, spy, steal technology, steal research, and then send it back to China. 0.58

00:15:56.000 So, President Trump's answer to this was actually fairly interesting.

00:16:00.000 He said, Well, we spy on them too.

00:16:02.000 So, what do you want me to do?

00:16:02.000 They're better at spying on us.

00:16:04.000 Yeah, this is a massive insult to a country to say you can't send your students here.

00:16:08.000 There was a time.

00:16:10.000 And I would say the 50s, 60s, 70s, even the 80s was really big on this, maybe the 90s as well, where the idea was very optimistic in nature that we're going to do these cultural exchanges.

00:16:20.000 The students are going to come to America.

00:16:21.000 They're going to see how amazing our culture is.

00:16:23.000 They're going to go back and they're going to be diplomats on behalf of the United States.

00:16:27.000 Now the opposite's happening.

00:16:28.000 They come to America and they think this country is messed up.

00:16:30.000 Well, maybe not.

00:16:32.000 I think there's some.

00:16:33.000 That's you being a little bit. 0.99

00:16:34.000 Okay, maybe I'm too black. 1.00

00:16:36.000 Yeah, that's black building. 1.00

00:16:37.000 They're not making China democratic. 1.00

00:16:38.000 The point is. 0.90

00:16:40.000 When you go, when you're a young American and you want to get into the sciences, you want to get into computer technology, these types of things, robotics, and you go in and say you're a white boy from, you know, Omaha, and you walk in and it's 98% Chinese and Indian, you think, whoa, I guess I'm in the wrong place. 1.00

00:16:57.000 We don't want that. 1.00

00:16:59.000 We are the nation that sent men to the moon.

00:17:00.000 We're the nation that created the atom bomb.

00:17:03.000 We are the nation that has pioneered countless fields computers, robotics, AI.

00:17:08.000 It's not just that.

00:17:09.000 It's that because we bring in so many of these students and they fill, for example, graduate.

00:17:13.000 Student slots at the school.

00:17:14.000 They're bringing down the wages that the schools pay to those.

00:17:16.000 So it doesn't pay as well to go into those fields, which keeps Americans from going into them as well.

00:17:21.000 It crowds them out as well.

00:17:22.000 It crowds them out.

00:17:23.000 It crowds them out and it lowers the actual economic appeal of doing it.

00:17:27.000 So someone who's good at math, who maybe we should pay them $400,000 a year to be a rocket scientist, they're going to go make $400,000 a year to be a quant on Wall Street.

00:17:37.000 But a quant on Wall Street, I'll be frank, is not as valuable as a rocket scientist.

00:17:42.000 No, because you're pushing around papers and financial instruments.

00:17:44.000 Yes, there is some value.

00:17:46.000 I'm not like a Complete black pillar on financial instruments.

00:17:51.000 There can be great creativity in the financial markets.

00:17:53.000 Our capital markets are the envy of the world, too.

00:17:56.000 But when you actually make physical things, this is why Charlie loved Elon Musk so much.

00:18:00.000 You're making physical things, you're creating and producing rockets and cars.

00:18:06.000 There is incredible value to a country that can still produce and manufacture physical objects.

00:18:11.000 Got to hit this clip really quick. 0.99

00:18:12.000 This is about farmland and Chinese buying it up. 1.00

00:18:14.000 Sot 10.

00:18:15.000 I would assume I'm in Beijing if I wanted to buy property.

00:18:20.000 Near one of their military installations.

00:18:23.000 I don't think President Xi.

00:18:24.000 I probably wouldn't like it.

00:18:24.000 Yeah, I don't.

00:18:25.000 Look, it's not that I love it.

00:18:27.000 You want to see farm prices drop?

00:18:29.000 You want to see farmers lose a lot of money?

00:18:31.000 Just take that out of the market.

00:18:33.000 But they've had a lot of land for a long time.

00:18:38.000 Obama did nothing about it.

00:18:40.000 They bought a lot of it during the Obama administration.

00:18:43.000 He did nothing about it.

00:18:46.000 So the fact that prices might fall could actually end up being a.

00:18:46.000 All right.

00:18:50.000 An okay thing for the next generation that maybe wants to inherit the land or buy some land, become the next generation of farmers.

00:18:56.000 I think you got to let the dust settle.

00:18:58.000 You got to let the market settle where Americans are buying it up.

00:19:01.000 We've talked about this with institutional buyers with first time homes.

00:19:06.000 I think you got to clear the field and let it be what it is. 0.80

00:19:09.000 You cannot be allowing a foreign power that wants bad things for America to be buying up our farmland. 0.95

00:19:17.000 I would much rather have China investment in America than Chinese students in America. 0.98

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00:21:08.000 All right, without further ado, we welcome.

00:21:11.000 Graham Allen to the show.

00:21:12.000 It's been too long.

00:21:13.000 Graham, welcome back, my friend.

00:21:15.000 Good to see you.

00:21:16.000 Hey, thanks for having me, guys.

00:21:17.000 Well, I want to congratulate you.

00:21:19.000 You have a new book out.

00:21:20.000 And anybody who has never written a book doesn't understand just how excruciatingly difficult it is to write a book.

00:21:28.000 And you've done so, sir.

00:21:30.000 Tell us about it and why now?

00:21:33.000 What is the premise?

00:21:35.000 Yeah, so I was challenged to write a book.

00:21:38.000 It's called Stand, Fight, Win Our Battle for the Soul of America.

00:21:43.000 So I was challenged.

00:21:45.000 To write a book that was not just, oh, Graham's mad about something and Graham's ranting about something.

00:21:51.000 And ironically, I was challenged to be more like Charlie.

00:21:55.000 And I know that sounds cliche, but it was.

00:21:58.000 It was like, all right, everybody knows what the problems are.

00:22:01.000 Everybody sees the issues.

00:22:04.000 How do we actually move forward and how do we actually win?

00:22:08.000 And so, and I was also challenged for what does the midterms look like with Donald Trump on his last.

00:22:16.000 Um, you know, his last term as president, what does it look like, you know, moving forward in a post Trump type world?

00:22:24.000 And then September 10th changed all of our lives, changed everybody's lives.

00:22:29.000 The world stood still, literally, in the middle of writing this book, and uh, it put to words this horrific thing that I saw coming.

00:22:41.000 And even in the book, when people read it, I say in the beginning, a lot of this book was written before September 10th, and I chose to keep it.

00:22:50.000 The way that I wrote it originally, because of unfortunately and tragically what unfolded with Charlie and the political assassination culture that we find ourselves in now and the character assassination culture we find ourselves in now.

00:23:05.000 And there is an active effort to divide our side.

00:23:09.000 There is an active effort to disenfranchise the American voter to show up in the midterms.

00:23:15.000 And the whole purpose of this book is to hopefully ignite a spark back into the American people.

00:23:22.000 That the war for our country never ends.

00:23:25.000 That's the biggest lie.

00:23:27.000 Lie.

00:23:28.000 That's the biggest bad news is everybody thinks that one election and then it's over and then it's done.

00:23:33.000 We won and we don't have to fight anymore.

00:23:35.000 And that's actually the exact opposite.

00:23:38.000 Every single election, every single midterm, every single presidential cycle, it's another battle in the war that is to preserve our American way of life here in this country.

00:23:49.000 And so that's why I wrote it.

00:23:51.000 That's what I was challenged to do.

00:23:53.000 I feel pretty good about this one.

00:23:55.000 I think people will see a different side of me coming from the admin.

00:24:00.000 Side of this and seeing the real depths of the swamp, if you will.

00:24:05.000 And I hope that it encourages a lot of people to show up in November.

00:24:08.000 I love that you chose to keep in the book what you wrote before 910.

00:24:14.000 Actually, I find myself as well, Graham, going back to that frame of mind, you know, when we were just day in, day out with Charlie and like going through the messaging and remembering that as sort of a north star for how to comport ourselves and how to behave because some of the stuff that's happened in the wake of it.

00:24:30.000 I mean, obviously, you know this as well as anybody, Graham, you've been so outspoken.

00:24:34.000 Has been so extreme, has been so completely unthinkable before 910 that I think some of the things that we knew can remain our North Star, the way that we did things, the way that we looked at challenges.

00:24:51.000 I just think that that is a purifying thought.

00:24:53.000 It is a clarifying thought because so much has been disorienting since that almost going back to that time just before can be very focusing and I think healthy.

00:25:04.000 Yeah, no, I think so.

00:25:05.000 And I was listening.

00:25:06.000 Listening to the footage that you guys were playing of Charlie right before this, and just even what he was talking about then, how there are people trying to divide us and to get us to fight against each other to lose focus of what the actual mission is.

00:25:21.000 And the actual mission is in 2024, we had one of the greatest historical political comebacks in history.

00:25:28.000 We defied all the odds, not just for President Trump's resolve, but also for Turning Point USA and Charlie and you and Blake and everybody else and Erica.

00:25:40.000 So many people played such a vital role in that.

00:25:43.000 And I refuse now to let that be thrown away because we have these instant gratification societies.

00:25:50.000 We have these people that take the policies that Trump is doing that are actually very good policies.

00:25:57.000 We have Trump went to China just now in a position of strength.

00:26:02.000 I talked about this.

00:26:03.000 China, seeing them roll out the red carpet for President Trump, I thought that was amazing.

00:26:08.000 He's got 50% of their oil.

00:26:11.000 With the Strait of Hormuz, like the things the president is doing is going to make America better for generations to come.

00:26:18.000 But you now have these victim mentality, chaos agents that are trying to convince the American people, even though we won, oh, we didn't really win.

00:26:28.000 Like, oh, we thought that Trump was the guy, but oh, he deceived us too, and all of this.

00:26:34.000 And it's the next thing, and the next victim, and the next deceit, and the next divide, and the next chaos, and the next confusion.

00:26:41.000 And again, that's the purpose of this book is to.

00:26:44.000 Reignite in the American people who, admittedly, I know you guys feel the same way I do.

00:26:50.000 I'm tired.

00:26:51.000 I know you guys are tired.

00:26:52.000 I can't imagine Erica.

00:26:53.000 I can't imagine the president.

00:26:55.000 I can't imagine how many of the American people are tired, maybe a little bit weary, maybe a little bit battle fatigued.

00:27:02.000 But that's the whole point is to keep pushing forward and to keep moving forward through the midterm so these policies do have time to take effect and to educate the next group coming after us because we all can't fight for forever.

00:27:16.000 No one can fight for forever.

00:27:18.000 The goal is to.

00:27:19.000 Keep reigniting the torch to hand it off to the next younger, better, smarter generations behind us again, which is why I wrote the book.

00:27:28.000 It's so good.

00:27:29.000 I think of some of Charlie's favorite lines.

00:27:31.000 People would ask him what his favorite quote was and his lead, follow, or get out of the way, which is a very aggressive favorite quote to have.

00:27:40.000 But it does tie in so much with what you're talking about, which is you are certainly not leading or following if you're just sowing discord, complaining, finding reasons to be aggrieved, ignoring successes.

00:27:53.000 Refusing to look for additional successes that are available.

00:27:57.000 And Charlie was so good about identifying that, that he would tout the victories on the border, on trade, on whatever you want to find.

00:28:07.000 And then he would also be finding new things to find victories on.

00:28:11.000 He loved to lobby red state legislatures.

00:28:14.000 He would love, for example, the redistricting fight going on, that he would be celebrating the states that get it done, like Tennessee.

00:28:20.000 He would be nagging the states that are dragging their feet, like Mississippi right now.

00:28:25.000 But in a way where it's not just they've betrayed us, this party is dead.

00:28:30.000 He would be saying, Call your legislators, get this done, make this happen.

00:28:35.000 It's that he also loved to talk about having a growth mindset and an abundance mindset that there's always improvements out there.

00:28:43.000 There's things, don't take any defeat too personally and find new ways to move past it.

00:28:48.000 Don't settle on just whining all of the time.

00:28:52.000 Yeah, I couldn't agree more.

00:28:54.000 You know, I did my best.

00:28:55.000 It's a very, uh, Horrific version to try to channel Charlie's insight and his leadership in this book.

00:29:03.000 Again, I was challenged not just to be the angry Graham that rants and calls out what's wrong, but to.

00:29:10.000 We love that Graham, though.

00:29:12.000 We love that Graham.

00:29:13.000 I just want you to.

00:29:14.000 I know.

00:29:17.000 But at some point, you have to maintain that person, but also take the wisdom that we've gained along the way and hopefully channel it into a way where people.

00:29:28.000 My hope is that people will continue to go back to this book.

00:29:32.000 That's my hope that they find, you know, lasting impact in this.

00:29:36.000 Because again, the biggest lie that people believe is that we only need to win one election and then it's over.

00:29:44.000 The fight for America, the fight for our freedoms, the fight for our faith, it never ends.

00:29:49.000 It keeps going.

00:29:51.000 And that's why I hope everybody will check out the book and they can go to grahamallen.com to get the book.

00:29:57.000 You can buy it wherever you like.

00:29:59.000 It's on sale everywhere.

00:30:00.000 I will be doing the audio version.

00:30:02.000 I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing.

00:30:04.000 If you like the audio versions of books.

00:30:07.000 But I appreciate you guys so much, and I stand with you guys.

00:30:11.000 You know this wholeheartedly, and we literally are going to stand, fight, win together in November, and I believe it.

00:30:17.000 I'm going to take a page out of your book here, my friend.

00:30:21.000 Make sure to check out his new book at grahamallen.com.

00:30:24.000 Check it out, just announced today.

00:30:26.000 Congratulations again on that.

00:30:27.000 But I'm going to take a page out of your book.

00:30:29.000 You are a fearless voice in the space, you go straight for it.

00:30:33.000 You deal directly with some of the main spreaders of disinformation and conspiracies.

00:30:39.000 Namely, Candace Owens. 0.81

00:30:40.000 Yesterday, she did have an allegation.

00:30:45.000 I checked out your show this morning.

00:30:46.000 You went straight for it.

00:30:47.000 She was saying that at the White House correspondence dinner, we were, I guess, complicit or coordinating with some amputation campaign.

00:30:58.000 Stage the whole thing.

00:30:59.000 Yeah.

00:31:00.000 Tell us about it.

00:31:01.000 Well, the thing I went after the most is anytime Candace has any kind of evidence of any kind, all watermarks are removed, all email.

00:31:01.000 Yeah.

00:31:11.000 Names are removed.

00:31:12.000 And what I love the most is of everyone who was at the White House Correspondence Dinner, and this is no disrespect to you or Erica Kirk in any way, but you guys were plotting and controlling the whole event, according to Candace Owens.

00:31:28.000 So you've got the president there, the vice president, secretary of state, secretary of war, the whole line of secession for the presidency, but it was you guys who were running and pulling the strings to hoax this entire thing.

00:31:41.000 And what I love, More than anything else, was Candace going on this because this is what she does.

00:31:47.000 She says something, people listen, not very smart people listen, but people do listen.

00:31:53.000 And then where's the evidence?

00:31:54.000 Oh, well, the evidence, something happened and now we don't have it.

00:31:58.000 But what I'll do is I will retype the most pertinent information.

00:32:05.000 So the screenshot that she put up there about this whole conspiracy to boost Erica's, as she calls it, the I want to go home video.

00:32:15.000 Even in her description, she says, This is not the email.

00:32:21.000 I retyped what I viewed to be the most important points of all of this.

00:32:26.000 And then I commented and I said, This is the most made up thing I've ever seen in my life.

00:32:31.000 And then she never provides any type of truth, any type of anything in that regard.

00:32:36.000 And so I really hope the White House does respond.

00:32:39.000 I would love nothing more.

00:32:41.000 They did, Graham, actually.

00:32:43.000 So I think we missed it.

00:32:44.000 You have their response.

00:32:44.000 I missed it.

00:32:46.000 Show it to me.

00:32:47.000 The White House military office has no knowledge of the communications alleged in this post, and they did not authorize, draft, or publish the content in question.

00:32:56.000 Any attribution to them is completely false.

00:32:58.000 Completely false.

00:33:00.000 Wow.

00:33:01.000 Love it.

00:33:02.000 Love it.

00:33:03.000 That was from Mark.

00:33:03.000 And here's what Candace said.

00:33:05.000 And here's what Candace said.

00:33:06.000 Candace will say.

00:33:08.000 It was just even the responses someone said.

00:33:08.000 Go ahead.

00:33:08.000 Sorry.

00:33:11.000 Someone was responding to Mark, and, you know, why did you spend time on this?

00:33:15.000 And he says, well, it just seems so outlandish and so verifiable.

00:33:19.000 I decided to just send an email and then post it on X. Not a lot of work.

00:33:24.000 Now, I will say, maybe it's real.

00:33:27.000 I think Andrew and I will say, we have no idea what any of this is talking about.

00:33:32.000 The text between Blake and I yesterday was hilarious.

00:33:34.000 Blake goes, Is this real?

00:33:37.000 I was like, What even is it?

00:33:38.000 I have no idea.

00:33:40.000 If I can tell you the number of times that allegations have been made, and I'm like, What on earth?

00:33:47.000 What have they come up with now?

00:33:49.000 So, this is one of the reasons we don't play whack-a-mole with this stuff because every day it's like something.

00:33:54.000 Something new that I've that I or the organization or Erica has been alleged of plotting, and it's so outlandish that I don't even know where to begin.

00:34:03.000 But you know, thankfully, the White House stepped in here and well, that photo you just showed right there that's what an actual inquiry and response actually looks like, Candace, by the way.

00:34:13.000 So, so, so when people actually make an inquiry and people respond, that last slide you just showed that's what it actually looks like in a real email thread or a text thread when people.

00:34:23.000 So, for all those that are watching, of what.

00:34:25.000 Actually, getting evidence looks like there it is.

00:34:27.000 That well, it doesn't look like a retyped image, you know.

00:34:32.000 It's hilarious.

00:34:33.000 I'm not sure on the exact time frame, but I will tell you, I was trapped in that White House correspondence ballroom for I believe I don't 45 minutes to an hour 15 before I was trying to text you, yeah, before I got out because they locked it all down.

00:34:49.000 I couldn't even get out, like, and there was no service down there.

00:34:51.000 Like, I got two calls that went through when I was down there.

00:34:54.000 One was my wife 10 minutes after, which I was. 0.98

00:34:56.000 Grateful for because I tried to call her immediately just to let her know I was okay because I was hiding under the darn table.

00:35:03.000 And with Harmeet Dillon, who got stepped on, by the way, by a Secret Service agent.

00:35:07.000 They literally came by our table stepping on the chairs because it was so packed in there.

00:35:13.000 Anyways, my wife got through to me, which was like a miracle, honestly, because I kept trying to dial out and it would just get stopped.

00:35:22.000 Call failed.

00:35:23.000 And then I got a call from Jack Posobic, I think, and then actually three, because then Tyler Boyer called me just to check on me.

00:35:30.000 So those three calls came through.

00:35:31.000 Nothing else would go through for me.

00:35:33.000 So, I had to get out, and then they wouldn't let you get picked up in an Uber.

00:35:37.000 I had to hike seven or eight blocks out of the vicinity before I could get an Uber to pick me up.

00:35:43.000 I remember it was like, it was just a wild, wild night.

00:35:47.000 It was terrifying, actually, and mostly because I thought the president had been shot.

00:35:52.000 So, I'm hiding under.

00:35:53.000 You knew less than any of us watching at home.

00:35:55.000 No, no, no.

00:35:56.000 I knew nothing.

00:35:57.000 Nobody in that room knew anything.

00:35:58.000 All I remember seeing is like, you know, there were reporters that were getting up on the stage, like doing selfies, and I thought that was really inappropriate.

00:36:06.000 But, like, when I was down, When I was down there, I'm asking everybody that I'm huddled around the table with, going, Did they shoot the president?

00:36:13.000 Was I just present at an event where the president was assassinated?

00:36:16.000 But I just want to highlight a bigger thing about this.

00:36:19.000 This is ridiculous because the central accusation, the reason she's running with this, is the idea oh, the White House went and they just, the military, it's so suspicious that they would just aggressively amplify this video of Erica Kirk to get lots of engagement.

00:36:34.000 Does aggressively amplifying videos of Erica, even to get his maximum engagement, describe?

00:36:39.000 Anyone over the past eight months does it?

00:36:42.000 I wonder, yeah, yeah, I wonder who that could be.

00:36:44.000 It's final 10 seconds, Graham.

00:36:47.000 Uh, go check out the book.

00:36:49.000 The whole purpose of it is to fight against what we just talked about.

00:36:52.000 Uh, you can go to grahamalland.com or literally anywhere you buy your books.

00:36:56.000 Thank you guys for having me.

00:36:57.000 Love Turning Point.

00:36:58.000 Love the show.

00:36:59.000 God bless you, Graham.

00:36:59.000 Always got your back.

00:37:01.000 We'll see you soon.

00:37:01.000 Thanks, brother.

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00:38:04.000 All right, welcome back.

00:38:05.000 It's hour two on a Friday.

00:38:07.000 That means it's an Ask Us Anything hour.

00:38:09.000 We're going to do a special econ themed hour because we have the one and only Colin Plume of Noble Gold Investments.

00:38:16.000 With us.

00:38:17.000 Colm Plume, you are not just a precious metal guy.

00:38:20.000 You are a knower of macroeconomics.

00:38:23.000 You're an expert.

00:38:23.000 You study this stuff.

00:38:24.000 You absorb yourself in it.

00:38:25.000 And so I thought it'd be really fun to bring you in for that.

00:38:29.000 But welcome back to the studio.

00:38:30.000 Yeah, good to be here.

00:38:31.000 It's been a while.

00:38:32.000 Yeah, it has been.

00:38:33.000 Yeah, a lot's happening.

00:38:33.000 It's been a while.

00:38:35.000 And yeah, I love everything money, dollar, gold, finance, real estate.

00:38:41.000 You're a nerd about it.

00:38:41.000 I love that.

00:38:42.000 I love it.

00:38:44.000 I like to dive into it.

00:38:45.000 It's what I do.

00:38:46.000 So you guys can.

00:38:48.000 Work with Colin directly at noblegoldinvestments.com slash Kirk.

00:38:53.000 Definitely add that slash Kirk so we get some credit for it.

00:38:56.000 So noblegoldinvestments.com slash Kirk.

00:38:59.000 But tell us, just give us a bit primer and then we're going to take some questions.

00:39:02.000 You've got a bunch of fun, beautiful things here.

00:39:04.000 Yeah, I brought some product.

00:39:06.000 I know everybody loves a gold kilo bar, so I brought this thing just because the weight of it.

00:39:10.000 It's really heavy.

00:39:12.000 People do not understand how heavy this is.

00:39:14.000 Blake, I could throw it to you, but it would probably lay at the table.

00:39:19.000 Yeah, it's a girthy gold bar.

00:39:21.000 How much is a kilogram of gold worth at this point?

00:39:24.000 It's around $150,000.

00:39:25.000 Okay, okay.

00:39:26.000 Well, anyway.

00:39:27.000 It's a little lower today.

00:39:28.000 Yeah, hand that back.

00:39:31.000 It's $150,000.

00:39:32.000 You just brought $150,000.

00:39:33.000 What are you thinking?

00:39:34.000 Have you not met our staff?

00:39:37.000 There's metal detectors here.

00:39:39.000 Everyone be safe.

00:39:41.000 Yeah, it's an interesting day.

00:39:42.000 Kevin Warsh, you know, today's the day he's going to be.

00:39:45.000 Oh, yeah, he takes over today.

00:39:46.000 He takes over today.

00:39:47.000 So I thought that's why today was the day I thought it was a good day to come in because what's going to happen?

00:39:52.000 I mean, the Fed has such a massive job right now with everything that's happening.

00:39:58.000 And President Trump has been, you know, sounding the bell.

00:40:02.000 We want to lower rates.

00:40:03.000 We want to lower rates.

00:40:04.000 The problem is that inflation last month hit almost 4%, and the Fed has this mandate of keeping inflation down and trying to create jobs and create a sound economic policy.

00:40:18.000 So today he's in office, and then he has about a month before he has his first meeting, and there's all kinds of speculation about what he could do.

00:40:26.000 Can he cut rates?

00:40:28.000 I mean, all these different things are happening.

00:40:28.000 Could he raise rates?

00:40:31.000 So that's why I decided to come in today.

00:40:33.000 A lot's happening there.

00:40:34.000 It's huge.

00:40:36.000 Everybody's always asking, what about the Strait?

00:40:38.000 What about energy?

00:40:39.000 What about China?

00:40:41.000 China's big in the news right now.

00:40:42.000 So, what are you, as somebody that studies this day in, day out, looking for when it comes to the China diplomacy, the economic negotiations?

00:40:51.000 Yeah, well, I think that, you know, interesting just in terms of finance, China has a very interesting thing that they have to tackle, and that they have three trillion US dollars.

00:41:03.000 They also have a massive amount of US treasuries that they hold.

00:41:08.000 They also have, you know, they say a small amount of gold.

00:41:13.000 So they always walk the tightrope of they know the dollar's crashing.

00:41:17.000 They know that the dollar's losing value.

00:41:19.000 They know that they have to be sort of diversified from the dollar, but they own a lot of dollars.

00:41:25.000 Right.

00:41:26.000 So they're always walking that tightrope of what to do financially for them, what's going to be the best strategy.

00:41:31.000 So they don't want to completely bash the dollar.

00:41:34.000 But, you know, the BRIC nations have said repeatedly they want their own currency.

00:41:38.000 They want it partially backed by gold or other currencies.

00:41:42.000 So these are the things that I sort of look at as like, you know, China says we don't have that much gold, 2,300, 2,400 tons.

00:41:48.000 But then you've seen they've had almost, you know, five times that amount in China, but the government hasn't been reporting that they actually own it, that that's just there.

00:41:58.000 Interesting. 0.79

00:41:59.000 So they're walking a tightrope, is what China is. 0.98

00:42:02.000 Well, I mean, gosh, you have so many fun things here. 0.99

00:42:05.000 I'm like tempted to just like start, you know, what is this?

00:42:09.000 This is a gold back.

00:42:10.000 So this was a, there was a guy about, Eight years ago, he decided that gold used to be money and let's make gold money again.

00:42:17.000 So he created this gold back, very popular.

00:42:20.000 And there are corporations that actually accept this.

00:42:23.000 That's actual gold.

00:42:24.000 This has gold in it.

00:42:25.000 It actually has about a little over $4 of gold in here.

00:42:29.000 Okay.

00:42:30.000 But it shows $1 on it.

00:42:32.000 So this actually illustrates exactly the problem with our currency and why gold is so much more valuable.

00:42:38.000 Because when he created this, it was actually less than a dollar of gold, just around that amount.

00:42:42.000 And now it's $4 of gold.

00:42:44.000 So that's how much the dollar has lost value over the last six or seven years since this has been created.

00:42:50.000 So, these are illustrations of things that are happening behind the scenes, inflation eating away at our living and our cost of living.

00:42:59.000 And it's something that we talk about a lot.

00:43:02.000 We have a question from Gracie, specifically, I think, tailored to you.

00:43:06.000 Gracie, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. 0.98

00:43:08.000 Unmute yourself.

00:43:09.000 You are on with Colin, Blake, and Andrew.

00:43:12.000 Good morning.

00:43:13.000 My question is Do you have any financial advice for newlyweds?

00:43:17.000 For newlyweds?

00:43:18.000 Well, first, congratulations.

00:43:20.000 Yeah, sure.

00:43:21.000 I mean, let's talk about that.

00:43:23.000 I think there's.

00:43:24.000 The first thing is, have you had an open and honest conversation about everybody's finances?

00:43:31.000 I would say that's the first thing.

00:43:32.000 Ideally, you had that before you got engaged, but ideally, but not always.

00:43:37.000 So, have you started there?

00:43:38.000 I mean, is everything transparent between the two of you?

00:43:42.000 Working on it.

00:43:44.000 Yeah.

00:43:46.000 Okay.

00:43:46.000 So, you haven't had that.

00:43:47.000 So, I would say that's probably the first place.

00:43:48.000 So, as you said, I mean, sometimes you get, you know, you fall in love and finances come later, but.

00:43:54.000 Now that you're going to build a life together, I think the first thing is to dissect what's there.

00:43:59.000 Probably the first thing to do is look at debt, what kind of debts both of you guys have, and putting together a plan to start to wind down some of that debt.

00:44:09.000 Because at the end of the day, when you get together, the debt's going to be together between the two of you.

00:44:14.000 So that would be the first thing to do.

00:44:16.000 Also, if there's any retirement accounts or any money that's available or anything that could kind of build your net worth, you should start talking about those things.

00:44:25.000 So I have a question for you.

00:44:25.000 So if they say they've got.

00:44:27.000 $50,000 in savings and they got $50,000 in debt when they're coming together as newlyweds.

00:44:33.000 Do you usually kind of recommend that you pay off all the debt first or do you simultaneously pay down some of the debt and invest some of the money?

00:44:41.000 You don't want to be, you don't want to have zero cash.

00:44:44.000 So I would never say put all it on the credit card unless you move in with your parents and they say, we'll take care of you guys, get to zero.

00:44:52.000 But 100% you pay off the debt first.

00:44:55.000 You don't do any investments, anything.

00:44:58.000 If you have a 401k at the job and they're matching a 401k, there's a penalty for pulling that out.

00:45:03.000 Yeah.

00:45:03.000 So, yeah.

00:45:03.000 Okay.

00:45:03.000 Yeah.

00:45:04.000 But I'm saying if you're at a job and they have a 401k and you're putting 3% a year, you could continue that.

00:45:08.000 But I wouldn't do anything drastic.

00:45:10.000 I wouldn't buy a house.

00:45:11.000 I wouldn't do any of those things until you're at zero debt.

00:45:14.000 Yeah.

00:45:14.000 I think that's fair.

00:45:14.000 I think a good rule of thumb, also, in terms of if you're a newlywed, is to just remember if you don't have kids yet, for example, anything you're able to save now, the compound returns on that are far greater than anything you save later.

00:45:27.000 And once you have kids, it's going to be harder to save.

00:45:29.000 100%.

00:45:30.000 And I always like to emphasize that, just my personal story.

00:45:33.000 I made very little money at my first job in Washington, D.C., but I lived with a friend of my dad's for a while, spent no money.

00:45:41.000 I think one month I had a credit card bill of $116.

00:45:44.000 Wow.

00:45:45.000 And as a result, so I saved a surprising amount for the amount I earned, but that was happening.

00:45:50.000 This was 2013.

00:45:51.000 This was still the post 2008 stock market.

00:45:55.000 And so anything I saved in that period basically has made a five times return just from the market going up since then.

00:46:02.000 Mm hmm.

00:46:02.000 And never mind any other dividend stuff.

00:46:04.000 So I always liked, you know, if you can, you just moved in together, hopefully, and your expenses overall should hopefully go down as a result.

00:46:11.000 Sure.

00:46:12.000 And you can save tremendous amounts of money in that time period before you have kids and so forth.

00:46:16.000 Great advice.

00:46:17.000 I love it.

00:46:17.000 Yeah.

00:46:18.000 You know, that's an underappreciated aspect of when you do get married.

00:46:21.000 Don't do it before.

00:46:22.000 We're not like into cohabitating around here.

00:46:25.000 But when you do get married, you don't have two rents anymore, you don't have a lot of duplicate expenses anymore.

00:46:30.000 And you can really save more money.

00:46:32.000 The guy's not spending as much on dates, though.

00:46:34.000 You should still do dates.

00:46:34.000 Yeah, you should definitely still do dates.

00:46:37.000 We don't want to encourage people not to.

00:46:39.000 All right, next question.

00:46:40.000 Who's up next?

00:46:42.000 How about we do Michael?

00:46:44.000 Michael.

00:46:44.000 Welcome, Michael.

00:46:46.000 Can you hear me?

00:46:47.000 Yes, sir.

00:46:47.000 Yes, you can.

00:46:48.000 Yes.

00:46:49.000 Awesome.

00:46:50.000 So, you said financial topics, so here's one.

00:46:54.000 I'm a truck driver, and both sides of the aisle keep inflicting money away.

00:47:01.000 And you are talking about the Federal Reserve and all that stuff.

00:47:04.000 I know it has to do with Congress, too, but when are they going to get serious about letting the middle class keep the value that we bust our butts for every day? 0.64

00:47:12.000 Because I'm kind of tired of it.

00:47:15.000 I don't see any part of the federal government being serious about it.

00:47:19.000 Yeah, I totally agree with this.

00:47:21.000 This is one of the, and I really want to.

00:47:23.000 Talk about the gold standard, what's happened to the dollar since then, because I think that's really hollowed out the purchasing power of the middle class.

00:47:30.000 I just want to say that till the day I die, I will be a budget hawk because Bannon talks about this too.

00:47:38.000 It's the Lords of Easy Money, right?

00:47:40.000 Where you get, they print all this money, it causes inflation.

00:47:46.000 And really what's happening is it's eroding the working class's ability and their purchasing power, right?

00:47:52.000 Of the dollar.

00:47:52.000 And so until we get a balanced budget and until we get really serious about this, We're printing money and we're inflating the problem and kicking the can down the road.

00:48:01.000 So I'm really, really big on that.

00:48:03.000 And we haven't lost sight of that.

00:48:06.000 And, you know, if you go back to the one big beautiful bill, the debates that we had about that, that was one of Charlie's biggest problems, actually, was that we wanted to cut more.

00:48:13.000 Turns out it wasn't really a spending bill.

00:48:16.000 And so you've got to deal with it in chunks.

00:48:18.000 And right now, divided government, filibuster, we're not going to get those big cuts we want.

00:48:22.000 We're not going to get that balanced budget that we need.

00:48:25.000 But that's really what's going on here.

00:48:26.000 I don't know if you agree or disagree, but.

00:48:28.000 That's a big part.

00:48:29.000 Yeah, no, I mean, I mean, you look at the government debt, you know, $39 trillion today.

00:48:34.000 You look at when, you know, Ronald Reagan was in office, it was at a trillion, basically.

00:48:41.000 So we, and now our interest on that $39 trillion is over a trillion.

00:48:46.000 So we're spending per year.

00:48:48.000 Per year.

00:48:49.000 We will never get a balanced budget.

00:48:51.000 I'm just going to say that now.

00:48:53.000 I don't believe in it.

00:48:54.000 Hey, we got one in the 90s.

00:48:54.000 Maybe there's some way.

00:48:55.000 We got once, yeah.

00:48:57.000 But it's, I think we've gone too far in terms of what we're spending.

00:49:02.000 In terms of the question of how to do it, I think if you look at the opportunities that are out there, you know, you being a truck driver, hopefully there's, you know, extra income coming in to invest.

00:49:14.000 You really have to do everything to start setting aside money to invest, to grow.

00:49:20.000 And you got to get your money.

00:49:22.000 You know, when you look at the stock market today, you're like, wow, the stock market's so high.

00:49:25.000 What is that saying to us?

00:49:27.000 Are the corporations that much more profitable?

00:49:30.000 I would say no, they're not that much more profitable.

00:49:32.000 I think it's actually saying that the dollar is so.

00:49:35.000 Distrusted in the world that people are saying, Well, I'd rather just put it in the stock market or I'd rather put it in gold or other things.

00:49:41.000 They just don't trust the dollar.

00:49:44.000 I think that's the thing.

00:49:45.000 And I think that to get around to another aspect of it, this gets at why it is important and valuable to get investments that are not just cash savings.

00:49:54.000 Because one of the reasons inflation is most damaging to middle class and lower is they're more likely to just keep a larger share of their assets in savings.

00:50:02.000 And some of that's because you need cash for emergencies, rainy day, and all of that.

00:50:07.000 But sometimes it's just.

00:50:09.000 They don't necessarily know what else to invest in, or they distrust markets and all of that.

00:50:13.000 And so they just socket away in cash under the mattress, literally or metaphorically.

00:50:19.000 And when you're in higher inflation times where they're devaluing currency, you are the loser in that situation.

00:50:25.000 Whereas the winners are people who are invested in things that just increase their cash value in response to inflation.

00:50:33.000 Well, and that's stocks, metals, what have you.

00:50:35.000 That was one of the reasons that COVID created one of the largest wealth transfers in human history.

00:50:41.000 And the middle class got screwed.

00:50:44.000 And the incumbent financial class that owned assets, that owned properties, that owned stocks, bonds, precious metals, all those sorts of things, they made out like bandits because their net worth shot through the roof.

00:50:56.000 Meanwhile, people holding savings or working wage jobs, they got absolutely short under the stick.

00:51:01.000 And that's why we're talking about you got to put your money to work for you so that it's making money while you're sleeping, while you're not able to drive a truck.

00:51:08.000 That's the key.

00:51:09.000 So while the government's just going to keep spending and spending and spending, devaluing the currency, debasing the currency, you got to.

00:51:15.000 Get assets that are making more on the return on investment than inflation, really.

00:51:21.000 Yeah, and one thing that, a fun chart is Odell Beckham Jr., a famous football player, he decided to take $750,000 of his salary in 2021 and put it into Bitcoin.

00:51:32.000 And everybody thought he was a little crazy or a genius.

00:51:35.000 And you look at what that $750,000 in Bitcoin has done relative to the dollar.

00:51:41.000 Obviously, in dollar buying power, it's down to $525,000.

00:51:45.000 So keeping in the dollar, Blake, to your point, is a terrible investment.

00:51:48.000 So it's lost 30% of its purchases.

00:51:50.000 Right.

00:51:50.000 Bitcoin's up a little bit, $932,000 in value.

00:51:53.000 But look at gold and look at silver.

00:51:55.000 If you'd bought ounces of gold and silver in 2021, you'd have almost $2 million in gold value.

00:52:04.000 And then silver's the big winner, $2.9 million in value from 2021.

00:52:11.000 This shows the ability of what gold and silver can do during heavy inflationary times.

00:52:18.000 And I think today is an interesting example because gold and silver are down because there's some thoughts that.

00:52:23.000 The worst is going to come in, and that he could raise rates or things are going to happen.

00:52:27.000 In my opinion, he's going to do some kind of quantitative easing.

00:52:31.000 He's going to open up the money supply.

00:52:33.000 He's going to figure out a way to do it.

00:52:35.000 There's even been talks about changing how the CPI are calculated.

00:52:37.000 You think he's going to raise rates, though?

00:52:39.000 I don't know.

00:52:39.000 No, some people think he's going to raise rates, but that's a lot of the reaction today is that the 10 year is up, so they don't think he's going to be able to cut rates.

00:52:47.000 That was the big thing.

00:52:47.000 Everybody, President Trump was hoping he comes in with a lot of money.

00:52:50.000 But with Iran putting inflationary prices on energy, which trickles down through the whole economy, We've still got this inflationary pressure we've got to deal with.

00:52:57.000 So we've got to keep rates either steady or.

00:52:59.000 Or find another way to get more money out there.

00:53:02.000 And today's a reaction to that.

00:53:04.000 So today is a day that I love in the metals market.

00:53:06.000 You see this pullback and you know it's a buying opportunity to acquire precious metals.

00:53:11.000 Because at the end of the day, when he's in in a month, he's in today, he's got a month, and then he's going to announce what he's going to do.

00:53:16.000 I don't think he's going to sit on his hands.

00:53:19.000 I think he's going to try to get rates down, try to get more money out there to stimulate the economy.

00:53:23.000 Because there's a lot of people out there that want that.

00:53:25.000 But this is a great.

00:53:27.000 Graph, by the way, to the point of the question, it's like, okay, we are debasing our currency.

00:53:32.000 If you kept it in cash, you're down 30%.

00:53:34.000 If you invested in silver, you're up almost 300%, and your money's worth almost 3 million bucks.

00:53:39.000 So that's how you do it.

00:53:41.000 You got to invest in stuff that's going to earn a far greater return on investment than the value that the dollar's losing.

00:53:51.000 Here's what your financial advisor won't tell you by the time the news tells you to buy gold, it's too late.

00:53:57.000 You're waiting.

00:53:58.000 I get it.

00:53:59.000 Everybody's waiting, waiting to see if the ceasefire holds, waiting to see if the Strait of Hormuz reopens, waiting to see what happens next.

00:54:07.000 But gold isn't waiting for you.

00:54:08.000 It moves on fear, on instability, on the unknown, and it moves faster than you can react.

00:54:13.000 So while you're waiting for certainty, the rest of the world is planning for what comes next.

00:54:17.000 You can wait or you can get prepared.

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00:55:08.000 All right, next question.

00:55:09.000 Don, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.

00:55:11.000 Please unmute yourself.

00:55:13.000 Hi, guys.

00:55:14.000 I appreciate you taking my call.

00:55:16.000 Of course.

00:55:18.000 And I just wanted to say that I'm a proud member of Team Erica and I'm taking the Bible at 365 for the first time this year.

00:55:28.000 I'm really proud of you.

00:55:28.000 God bless you.

00:55:29.000 That's awesome.

00:55:30.000 I think she's actually recording an episode today of that.

00:55:33.000 Oh, excellent.

00:55:34.000 Yeah, very good.

00:55:35.000 Yeah.

00:55:36.000 Yeah, and I apologize.

00:55:39.000 I've I forgot today was supposed to be about economics.

00:55:42.000 That's okay.

00:55:43.000 No, no, no.

00:55:44.000 That's okay.

00:55:44.000 I'm sorry about it.

00:55:46.000 Yeah.

00:55:46.000 All right.

00:55:47.000 The question I have is Andrew, you said, I think about a month ago, that you were taking the Constitution 101 course from Hillsdale.

00:55:56.000 And I was wondering if you would finish that.

00:55:59.000 And if so, what you're taking now.

00:56:02.000 Yeah.

00:56:02.000 So, Constitution 101, the meaning and history of the Constitution, it's excellent.

00:56:08.000 I'm about halfway through.

00:56:10.000 And, you know, actually, the reason I. Took that was because I remember I was on a plane with Charlie and he was taking it, and I was just blown away by it.

00:56:19.000 This concept of how the founders spread out political power over not just geography, not just states, but over time and over, you know, function.

00:56:30.000 So they did it intentionally.

00:56:32.000 They spread and diffused power across not only different institutions.

00:56:36.000 So you got the three legged stool, right?

00:56:38.000 You've got the judicial, you've got the legislative, and you've got the executive branches.

00:56:43.000 Then you've got two year terms, six year terms, four year terms.

00:56:46.000 And then, you know, so this concept that the founders really pioneered has swept over the world because it was so brilliant. 0.94

00:56:53.000 You can't have the passions of the people, you know, be taken by a Mamdani or something. 0.99

00:56:59.000 And then within like six months, the whole country has shifted irrevocably and you can't get it back. 0.97

00:57:03.000 No, you have to sustain a movement, it has to prove its merit to the people over six years to fully turn over a government.

00:57:10.000 Six years.

00:57:11.000 So you think about the MAGA revolution that President Trump ushered in.

00:57:15.000 That's been about a decade.

00:57:16.000 Why?

00:57:17.000 Because it actually has staying power.

00:57:18.000 People like populism, they like nationalism, they like.

00:57:21.000 You know, basically, the industrial base, reinvigorating the industrial base and tariffs, all these things, these ideas have staying power.

00:57:31.000 And that is why it's lasted for a decade.

00:57:33.000 But these flash in the pants can't take over the United States.

00:57:36.000 That's why I love Constitution 101.

00:57:38.000 Hillstead does a great job on it.

00:57:39.000 You asked, what would I do next or what course would I take next?

00:57:43.000 I'm planning on taking the introduction to Aristotle's ethics, how to lead a good life.

00:57:48.000 Charlie loved Aristotle, Socrates, Plato, studied them a lot.

00:57:52.000 And so I've committed.

00:57:53.000 Myself to study them and become as good as I can at those.

00:57:57.000 You're going to have a hard time.

00:57:58.000 The Nicomachean Ethics is hard to read.

00:58:00.000 Well, that's why Hillsdale is going to make it easy for me.

00:58:03.000 It's not easy.

00:58:04.000 I will tell you, Hillsdale, these courses are actually really rigorous.

00:58:08.000 And the scholarship is really deep and it's profound and it's excellent.

00:58:13.000 So you got to devote yourself to it, but it's free.

00:58:16.000 And I recommend it.

00:58:17.000 CharlieForHillsdale.com.

00:58:19.000 Blake, what do you think about my choice with Aristotle?

00:58:22.000 That's a good one.

00:58:23.000 Yeah.

00:58:24.000 C.S. Lewis would be another fun one.

00:58:25.000 C.S. Lewis would be easier for sure.

00:58:27.000 The Federalist Papers.

00:58:28.000 Could I do a Constitution reference here?

00:58:30.000 Article 1, Section 10 No state shall make anything but gold and silver coin a tender in payment of debts.

00:58:38.000 So, I mean, listen, there's a reason why it was in there, right?

00:58:42.000 Interesting.

00:58:43.000 Now, did we?

00:58:43.000 No, because, okay, hold on.

00:58:44.000 This is actually, I don't know this part of the Constitution.

00:58:47.000 Do you know this part of the Constitution?

00:58:49.000 That's obviously no longer true.

00:58:52.000 Well, the states don't make their own money these days.

00:58:54.000 Right.

00:58:54.000 So, what was the transition constitutionally?

00:58:57.000 Oh, it was kind of a gradual thing.

00:58:58.000 Was it an amendment?

00:59:00.000 No, it's not so much that Congress has the power to coin money.

00:59:04.000 I want to say it was around the Civil War where we really transitioned to centralized US currency being really dominant and having paper iterations of it.

00:59:15.000 It's a complicated economic question, to say the least.

00:59:18.000 And we went to a central bank policy.

00:59:19.000 So it changed.

00:59:20.000 Yeah.

00:59:21.000 But that's when people, I know his original question was about talking about the Bible and then we went to the Constitution, both places that gold was money.

00:59:31.000 There's never been, people have been talking about how we're changing the currency, that the currency is going to change and the dollar is going to.

00:59:36.000 There's never been a currency that has been a world's reserve currency that has not been backed by gold.

00:59:42.000 Are you an abolish the Fed guy?

00:59:45.000 Listen, I love Ron Paul.

00:59:47.000 Huge fan of Ron Paul.

00:59:49.000 I think that it's what's the next?

00:59:53.000 Who's in charge?

00:59:53.000 This is my problem.

00:59:55.000 Because the idea that the power goes back to Congress is equally as troubling for me, too.

01:00:00.000 Imagine AOC having a say in all this.

01:00:03.000 Yeah.

01:00:03.000 So I don't like the alternative.

01:00:06.000 And unless somebody comes up with a.

01:00:08.000 Blake, are you an abolish the Fed guy?

01:00:11.000 It's a big step to take.

01:00:13.000 I've not thought that hard about it.

01:00:15.000 And I guess what I would say is, whatever the issues with the Fed, it has coincided with the period of absolute peak American economic dominance.

01:00:23.000 And then it's declined.

01:00:24.000 If it's true, but even the decline came in decades later.

01:00:29.000 And I don't think it was because of Fed policy.

01:00:30.000 I think it's because we decided to borrow infinity amounts of money and export our industrial base.

01:00:35.000 And I don't think the Fed forced anyone to do that.

01:00:37.000 What I do think is interesting with the gold and silver thing is it gets at something which is the sort of desire to debase currency for short term economic thinking has been around for a long time.

01:00:51.000 That's why that's in the Constitution because they're worried about some sort of.

01:00:55.000 They called them levelers then.

01:00:57.000 They didn't have, instead of socialists, they had levelers who wanted to level all economic differences.

01:01:01.000 And so what levelers would do is they would want to, for example, they might introduce a paper currency and wipe out everyone's savings essentially by.

01:01:11.000 Mass inflation, inflate everything away and use paper money.

01:01:14.000 And of course, we see that today.

01:01:15.000 There's plenty of levelers in today's terms who want to wipe out economic differences, who would happily tear down the entire economic structure to equalize everyone or elevate themselves.

01:01:27.000 And the Constitution was aware of that risk.

01:01:30.000 Well, yeah, I mean, the British did this to the colonialists.

01:01:32.000 I mean, all the colonies used their own paper currency, actually.

01:01:37.000 And even after the Constitution, a lot of them had their own paper currencies, as you mentioned.

01:01:41.000 Anyway.

01:01:42.000 Fascinating stuff here.

01:01:43.000 Thank you for your question, Don.

01:01:44.000 We're going to go to who's next?

01:01:47.000 Mary?

01:01:48.000 Oh, Anthony.

01:01:48.000 Anthony.

01:01:49.000 Okay.

01:01:49.000 Anthony, welcome back to the show.

01:01:51.000 Unmute yourself.

01:01:52.000 What's your question, sir?

01:01:54.000 This is for Colin.

01:01:54.000 So, Colin, through my financial planner, I have paper, gold, and silver, and I would like to add physical.

01:02:00.000 And I trust him very much, but I also don't trust going to a pawn shop all the time.

01:02:05.000 So, would it be best to talk with your company about this, or what would you recommend?

01:02:10.000 Yeah.

01:02:10.000 I mean, I think it's what people always ask me, like, what about paper, gold?

01:02:15.000 And I'd say if you're.

01:02:16.000 Actively trading.

01:02:17.000 I don't know if you are really hands on with your, or you more of like you set it and set a plan and then maybe every year you.

01:02:24.000 So mine's mine's set for high risk and everything because I like to high risk and everything.

01:02:29.000 So I max out my investments each year.

01:02:31.000 So I think it was like, which is like $7,000, I think, according to the government, right?

01:02:36.000 Yeah.

01:02:36.000 It depends on what kind of IRA you have or 401k plan you have.

01:02:40.000 Right.

01:02:41.000 So, but my guy can only do like the paper gold and paper silver.

01:02:45.000 And I would like to add physical because like I have digital currency as well, like Bitcoin and all that through him.

01:02:50.000 And everything.

01:02:50.000 So I have a diverse portfolio, but I want something physical too.

01:02:54.000 Yeah, absolutely.

01:02:55.000 And that's kind of how we came about this idea that you want something outside of the system.

01:03:01.000 And I do think in this time, this change when there's talking about CBDCs and there's a real shifting with AI to this everything's digital, gold really fits into that.

01:03:12.000 And it's because you finally have something that's outside the system, right?

01:03:16.000 You know, at the end of the day, your 401ks, your IRAs are all a digit, unfortunately.

01:03:21.000 And so If something were to happen, like what kind of control would you have over that?

01:03:26.000 Whereas physical gold, you'd have some, you have it.

01:03:29.000 It's yours.

01:03:30.000 It's something to protect you against the system.

01:03:33.000 Do most of your clients, do they actually like have a safe at their home with a gold, like physical gold in it?

01:03:39.000 Or do you store it for most of your clients?

01:03:41.000 So I would say a lot of times it's both.

01:03:44.000 Okay.

01:03:44.000 Most people do both.

01:03:46.000 Most people have a safe at home.

01:03:47.000 We ship it to their home in a discreet package.

01:03:50.000 We can also store, most of the people that That we store for outside of an IRA are a little bit older and maybe they're traveling, but usually younger people. 0.59

01:03:59.000 Those shipments must be heavy.

01:04:00.000 Yeah, they're heavy packages.

01:04:02.000 So I would say, absolutely, we can assist you.

01:04:06.000 We focus on bullion, coins, and bars.

01:04:08.000 So we don't get into those.

01:04:09.000 This is bullion.

01:04:10.000 Yeah, this is bullion.

01:04:11.000 This is going to get you the most bang for your buck, the highest weight, highest purity.

01:04:15.000 And the other reason you don't want to go to a pawn shop is that the problem is when you want to sell back.

01:04:20.000 See, we sell the same items day to day.

01:04:21.000 So we're going to give you a great buyback price.

01:04:23.000 When you go to a pawn shop, they don't know how long items are going to sit around.

01:04:28.000 So they have to put a premium on the back end because they don't know.

01:04:31.000 We're turning around products all the time.

01:04:33.000 We've done almost $4 billion in sales in bars.

01:04:37.000 So we have people coming, selling, and buying all the time.

01:04:40.000 So we're going to give you a good price coming in and also a great price coming out.

01:04:44.000 Okay.

01:04:44.000 Perfect.

01:04:45.000 Go ahead, Anthony.

01:04:47.000 No, I was just going to say that sounds more safer than going to a pawn shop.

01:04:50.000 You know, it's.

01:04:52.000 Yeah.

01:04:52.000 Don't go to a pawn shop.

01:04:53.000 Yeah.

01:04:55.000 No, everybody up here where I live says, oh, just go to a pawn shop.

01:04:57.000 They do gold and Silver bars and coins, and I'm like, I don't know if that sounds really safe to do.

01:05:02.000 Price gouging.

01:05:03.000 By the way, a lot of people in this space price gouge, and that's one of the reasons we're with Colin because I did a whole study on this.

01:05:11.000 I don't want to get into too much detail, but I did a whole study on all the companies, and some of these companies legitimately are highway robbery.

01:05:21.000 Colin is not that.

01:05:22.000 He's the opposite of that.

01:05:23.000 So, yeah.

01:05:25.000 Anyways, I mean, I think it's fair to say, right?

01:05:27.000 Yeah, absolutely.

01:05:28.000 And we can definitely help you out.

01:05:29.000 And also, You're going to get a live person to talk to.

01:05:32.000 It's not like a bot or anything like that.

01:05:34.000 So you can ask them.

01:05:35.000 Yeah, I already know because I've already, I actually downloaded your free gold investment thing already.

01:05:40.000 Oh, okay.

01:05:40.000 And then, by the way, you know what's funny about Colin?

01:05:43.000 I actually thought this was kind of like, I didn't know what to make of it when I first met you, but you were like the big silver guy, too.

01:05:48.000 I mean, obviously you do $4 billion in gold, so you do a lot of gold, but I remember you were like really big on silver.

01:05:53.000 And I was, you know, it turns out you were right.

01:05:55.000 You know, like if Odell Beckham Jr. would have put it in silver, he'd have $750,000, would turn into $3 million and not nearly as much.

01:06:04.000 In gold.

01:06:04.000 Yeah, absolutely.

01:06:05.000 So, I mean, it varies time to time.

01:06:07.000 But, anyways, so, Anthony, since you're asking it, that is noblegoldinvestments.comslash Kirk.

01:06:14.000 Do it.

01:06:14.000 You got to do the slash Kirk for me, Anthony.

01:06:16.000 Mary.

01:06:18.000 Mary, welcome to the show.

01:06:20.000 Hi.

01:06:20.000 My question is What are your thoughts on DEI and employers that still use this during their hiring process?

01:06:27.000 And any advice for young adults that recently found out they were only hired because they're of their skin or, sorry, of their race?

01:06:36.000 Oh, interesting.

01:06:37.000 So, do you know somebody that found out they were only hired because they were not white, essentially?

01:06:43.000 I'm going through this right now.

01:06:45.000 Okay.

01:06:46.000 I mean, If you are hired for something you're unqualified for, one thing is if you're not qualified for it, you should possibly look for another job, especially if it's something where, you know, maybe people are putting trust in you and lives at risk.

01:06:59.000 But at the same time, we are aware people need to earn a living.

01:07:02.000 It's strong to say, like, oh, quit your job because you don't deserve it or whatever.

01:07:06.000 What you should do is you should become worthy of it.

01:07:08.000 I was going to say, that's the best way.

01:07:10.000 Become deserving of it.

01:07:10.000 Yeah.

01:07:11.000 Good way.

01:07:12.000 If you want a frank way, Clarence Thomas, our favorite Supreme Court Justice, he's overtly admitted he received boosts from.

01:07:20.000 Affirmative action throughout his life.

01:07:21.000 He came from a very impoverished background. 0.81

01:07:24.000 He spoke with a Gullah accent growing up.

01:07:27.000 And let's be frank, he was probably put on the Supreme Court partly for affirmative action reasons, you know, by President H.W. Bush.

01:07:35.000 But he became an amazing Supreme Court justice.

01:07:37.000 He's absolutely worthy of the seat.

01:07:39.000 He's been an incredible jurist.

01:07:41.000 And we can look to that as an example.

01:07:43.000 So become worthy of things, and don't use it as a crutch.

01:07:47.000 Don't be reliant on that sort of thing.

01:07:49.000 If you're on the other side of things, if you are denied a job because Of DEI stuff.

01:07:55.000 The good news is, for ages in America, it was sort of treated as we'd have these laws that say you can't discriminate based on race and hiring.

01:08:02.000 And there's an implied, unless you're white or a white man, then they can flagrantly do it.

01:08:08.000 And what this administration that we have has done is they've encouraged and opened the door and made it clear you can sue over these things.

01:08:16.000 Right now, the New York Times is getting sued by a white male editor who's been there for ages and has never gotten promoted.

01:08:23.000 And he says, I was not promoted because they were just endlessly promoting less qualified people.

01:08:27.000 To hit diversity quotas.

01:08:29.000 And what's great about this is these lawsuits, now that they're uncorked, they're going to be fish in a barrel because these companies routinely, they just have emails and text messages and communications that are like, yeah, no more white dudes, no more white guys. 0.80

01:08:44.000 If you had that for any other race, you're absolutely vaporized and you should get vaporized in the same way for doing it to white people. 0.60

01:08:50.000 So if you've suffered that, consider looking for lawyers. 1.00

01:08:53.000 You have a case.

01:08:54.000 Well, and so it sounds like you maybe are benefiting in this instance from this.

01:08:58.000 I would just, just to add on to what Blake was saying, become Qualified.

01:09:03.000 Take a, you know, as we had this great interview with Tucker and Charlie years ago, this clip went viral and Tucker, it was a great line.

01:09:08.000 He said, Take a job you're not qualified for.

01:09:11.000 Like, live boldly.

01:09:12.000 So, you know, really dig into this.

01:09:16.000 And, you know, Charlie used to talk about this all the time that one of the victims of DEI are the people that get the jobs that then have to think about was I actually qualified for this?

01:09:26.000 Was I the best at it?

01:09:27.000 And then you have this insecurity, this sense of inadequacy that hangs over your head.

01:09:32.000 Do not Fall victim to that.

01:09:34.000 And when we're talking about getting rid of DEI, we're talking about in broad strokes, macro, as a culture.

01:09:39.000 This is bad for our cultures, bad for our economy.

01:09:41.000 But on the micro, if you find yourself in a position where you've benefited from that and you believe the right things and you have the right values and you're trying to do the best by your employer, then by God, take advantage of it.

01:09:53.000 Make the most out of that instance.

01:09:55.000 And so you never have to wake up another day in your life thinking, did I get this because of some racist system?

01:10:02.000 You make the most of it.

01:10:03.000 That is on you.

01:10:04.000 The responsibility is on your shoulders.

01:10:06.000 And so, like, we We pray for you that you will go boldly forward and you will take advantage of this opportunity.

01:10:11.000 But on the macro, it's terrible for the society and we want it to end.

01:10:15.000 Fair enough.

01:10:16.000 Also, I would say don't live in the past.

01:10:18.000 I mean, you're in the position right now.

01:10:20.000 And the reason I'd say don't live in the past, it's not going to do you any good.

01:10:23.000 The other thing to think about is that I know a lot of business owners that inherited a business, right?

01:10:29.000 Nepotism is rampant, right?

01:10:31.000 And they jump into it and they figure it out and they don't feel guilty about it.

01:10:36.000 I think you have a lot of awareness that maybe you didn't get a job that you should have.

01:10:39.000 And having awareness of who you are and learning about yourself is actually someone that's going to be very successful.

01:10:44.000 Everyone that I know is successful.

01:10:46.000 As a person like you, I threw in the caveat.

01:10:47.000 I did throw in the caveat about possibly even mainly because we do have jobs where people have gotten like they're hired as like nurses or doctors and they're totally unqualified.

01:10:55.000 Electrical work, you know, like don't get yourself electric.

01:10:57.000 Nothing that will get someone killed or yourself killed.

01:10:59.000 I want to get to the last question here.

01:11:01.000 Elizabeth, Elizabeth, welcome to the show.

01:11:04.000 Please unmute yourself.

01:11:06.000 Yes, we can hear you.

01:11:07.000 Yeah, go for it.

01:11:08.000 Okay, so quick question.

01:11:10.000 I'm selling my house this year and we're going to get a house built somewhere else.

01:11:14.000 And so I was thinking about putting half of that money.

01:11:18.000 Into silver because I had made a lot of money in silver this year.

01:11:21.000 But this is also a situation where, like, we can't afford to lose the money and I need it in a year.

01:11:26.000 What do you think?

01:11:28.000 Well, you're planning to build a house.

01:11:30.000 So, I mean, obviously, if you're planning to build a house, there's other assets there too.

01:11:34.000 I'm assuming.

01:11:35.000 I don't know your financial situation, but, you know, houses.

01:11:37.000 So, this is basically we're selling the house and getting a new house built somewhere else in a different state.

01:11:42.000 We're just moving.

01:11:43.000 So, this is my major asset.

01:11:45.000 Yeah.

01:11:46.000 I mean, listen, nobody has a crystal ball of what's going to happen in the future.

01:11:49.000 I mean, I would love to tell you, I knew it was going to happen in the next three to five years.

01:11:53.000 But ultimately, silver is a phenomenal investment.

01:11:58.000 China and the U.S. made silver a strategic metal last year.

01:12:02.000 So they basically said, we need to hoard silver, we need to keep silver.

01:12:07.000 They've had five years of shortages of silver.

01:12:09.000 So obviously, I love it and I believe in it.

01:12:12.000 You wrote a whole book on silver.

01:12:13.000 I wrote a book on it.

01:12:15.000 And then the other thing to keep in mind with the wars that are happening.

01:12:17.000 I made a lot of money in silver this year.

01:12:18.000 You made a lot of money in silver this year.

01:12:20.000 So you obviously know what it can do.

01:12:23.000 So, yeah, I mean, I always say, you know, sometimes knowing something, my book is called Silver is a New Oil.

01:12:29.000 You could read it and get more information.

01:12:30.000 But I do think we're going to see a lot of inflation coming in.

01:12:34.000 I think that's why we're seeing the 10 year go up pretty high.

01:12:38.000 You know, it's high fours right now.

01:12:40.000 The long term is that we're going to see more and more inflation.

01:12:43.000 And typically, gold and silver react very well.

01:12:47.000 And if we do quantitative easing or any money printing, which I do think is going to happen, if you look at the last time we did quantitative easing in 2009 to 2011, you can look at the charts.

01:12:57.000 And see what gold and silver did.

01:12:59.000 So, one question though. 0.98

01:13:00.000 She said, so she's going to sell her house.

01:13:02.000 Let's say she has $500,000 and she's talking about putting half of that in silver.

01:13:08.000 Do you feel like that's too much?

01:13:10.000 Or what percentage of a portfolio would you.

01:13:13.000 I think that ultimately what it comes down to is I'm not a financial owner and I don't know what other investments you have.

01:13:18.000 So, I'm not going to say a specific number.

01:13:20.000 Sure.

01:13:20.000 Okay.

01:13:21.000 Fine.

01:13:21.000 I think it's really important to give us a call.

01:13:24.000 We can talk to you, we can learn more about you.

01:13:27.000 I think you should.

01:13:28.000 You pray on it, talk to your husband or whoever's around you, and let's take some time getting to know each other.

01:13:34.000 Talk to somebody at Noble Gold.

01:13:35.000 Let's build a relationship.

01:13:37.000 And then, wherever it may, maybe you dip your toe in the water with us or you do more later.

01:13:41.000 But ultimately, I think it's a personal decision.

01:13:44.000 But you're bullish on silver.

01:13:46.000 Yeah, of course.

01:13:46.000 Of course, I'm bullish on silver.

01:13:48.000 I like it.

01:13:48.000 And I think if you have some liquid cash, it might be a good place for you.

01:13:52.000 NobleGoldInvestments.comslash Kirk.

01:13:54.000 If you want to work with Colin, this is great, man.

01:13:57.000 We should do this again.

01:13:57.000 Yeah, I'll be back.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - May 15, 2026

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