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00:01:25.000This is one of the busier news days in the last couple weeks.
00:01:29.000This Joe Rogan interview between JD Vance and Joe Rogan basically dominated the internet yesterday because they went into a lot of different topics.
00:01:38.000Let me just quickly preview the show and then we're going to break that interview down as best we can.
00:02:33.000Blake, why don't you just set the stage for why this JD Joe Rogan interview has taken the internet by storm?
00:02:42.000Well, it circles back to what made the 2024 election so exceptional.
00:02:46.000President Trump and JD Vance, his running mate, they ran an unconventional campaign.
00:02:52.000It evaded a lot of the traditional media, but it went to new media, which, as we know, is incredibly popular.
00:02:58.000Far more people watch and listen to Joe Rogan than watch and listen to CNN on a given night.
00:03:06.000And he has a tremendous ability to, especially, reach younger Americans, young men, that swing demographic that Charlie worked so hard to reach, and that the campaign.
00:04:38.000It's like worth reading because it lists a bunch of people who have quite literally been paid by a former Trump campaign person who was himself paid by certain elements within the Israeli government.
00:04:53.000And those people are attacking me viciously for quite literally trying to accomplish the negotiation objective that the president set for the country.
00:05:01.000Again, when I open up the pages of Time magazine and I see that there's a literal foreign influence campaign being funded to tank the very deal that I was pursuing, you know, my response to that is, well, go to hell.
00:05:14.000I'm going to do what I have to do for the American people.
00:05:28.000If the Iranian people want to rise up and change their government, that's up to them.
00:05:32.000But we're not going to send 150,000 ground troops in order to accomplish a change in a regime unless the people on the ground themselves want to accomplish that outcome.
00:05:44.000Now, we're not going to send the troops in regardless, but to propose sending in the troops, you're basically saying that the U.S. military should do the job for the Iranian people.
00:07:13.000We're not going to send 100, 150,000 ground troops into Iran.
00:07:17.000Now, yeah, you could say that Iran is not somebody that you can negotiate in good faith with.
00:07:22.000I think everybody at that table, at the negotiating table, including JD, understands the dynamic there.
00:07:29.000But I'm struggling to understand it, Blake, when we just heard recently that the Department of War and other intel agencies within our federal government are concerned about.
00:07:59.000Other countries have a lot more malign influence in this country, but Israel can probably get a better ROI out of that influence because they're talking to many sympathetic voters and politicians, right?
00:08:12.000JD just said, hey, it's very effective influence because it's speaking to a crowd that is sympathetic to Israel and its plight in the Middle East.
00:08:25.000I don't understand, at essence, where the core of the controversy is, other than he's not saying, let's go bomb the heck out of Iran and regime change.
00:09:03.000So, one of my frustrations with this, Blake, is that it feels like the interests on either side of this debate are so deeply invested that even what appeared to me to be a common sense approach, right down the middle, like, hey, we like Israel, we support Israel, but we also understand that they're attempting to influence this debate.
00:09:26.000They don't want to see the MOU get done.
00:09:51.000We had people say he's a Zio Shill, a fake Christian on one end.
00:09:55.000We saw people say he was an anti Semite on the other end.
00:09:58.000Both of those attacks were completely false and they were pretty hurtful.
00:10:02.000And it's something that's going to happen because it is simply the case there are people in America who believe that America and Israel's interests are identical.
00:10:12.000And sometimes that can translate to if the Israeli government wants a thing, you're basically opposing America if you oppose that.
00:10:20.000And on the flip side, you have people who basically believe Israel is an enemy nation to the United States.
00:10:25.000And so we can never align our interests.
00:10:28.000And you're a traitor if you're not trying to, frankly, actively give weapons to Palestinians and so forth.
00:10:34.000And It's very difficult for either of those strands to handle even a moderate path.
00:10:42.000They see even the moderate path as actually hopelessly extreme and dangerous.
00:10:46.000And I think there's a lot of people who actually go down the vice president's middle path, but he's become the symbol of it.
00:10:53.000And so that's exposed him to a lot of attacks.
00:10:56.000Yeah, he is that sort of center point in the tug of war, which I do believe, to your point, is where a lot of Americans are.
00:11:03.000We want them to be able to defend themselves against attacks.
00:11:07.000You know, if they are getting attacked, we have.
00:11:10.000You know, you and I both have a ton of Jewish friends.
00:11:12.000Dennis Prager was one of Charlie's mentors and dearest friends, and continues to be a dear friend of mine.
00:11:19.000At the same time, we can all acknowledge that at various points, at any type of, you know, whether it be foreign policy or negotiations with Iran, that we are going to have differences of prioritization.
00:11:31.000And that is natural between two sovereign entities.
00:11:35.000So, to the point that with this MOU, which was the same point I have been making since the MOU came onto the scene, was what is the alternative?
00:11:44.000The alternative is, I guess we do this forever war stuff.
00:11:47.000We find ourselves in a detente of some sort where now President Trump says we're going to be controlling the Strait of Hormuz indefinitely and we're going to be charging a toll essentially for those efforts, for the expense that is incurred by the United States to do that.
00:12:04.000Listen, we have warned about the fact that this war is easy to start, hard to end.
00:12:10.000JD is trying to forge an end to that and he's being deployed by the President of the United States to do that.
00:12:17.000But what's interesting is that some people hear this and they hear anti Israel sentiment.
00:12:22.000Me as a Christian American patriot, I didn't hear any anti Semitism in there.
00:12:27.000I didn't hear any anti Israel sentiment in there.
00:12:29.000I just heard common sense hey, we've got to pursue peace.
00:12:32.000We achieved our core objectives and we've got to move forward.
00:14:01.000Is there an internal battle between factions that want Marco to run and they see him as more sort of, I would say, fitting with the historical norm of the relationship with Israel?
00:14:14.000And JD Vance is probably a little bit more of a pragmatist when it comes to this that we have American interests that sometimes diverge.
00:14:23.000But where those interests diverge, we're going to pursue American interests.
00:14:26.000And I would say Marco would probably articulate his position similarly.
00:14:30.000But I think there is essentially a Larger bond of trust between that faction and Marco.
00:14:36.000And so everything is getting pushed as this proxy to 2028.
00:14:41.000And again, I'm sitting here last night not fully understanding where the controversy is coming from until you realize that this is a proxy about 2028.
00:14:51.000This is sort of saying, hey, he's not sounding the right notes for a certain faction and we're going to have a larger reaction than probably is justified.
00:15:10.000Owned up to that and said that his position on this is that he certainly seems to have ties to intelligence communities, including Israeli, including American, but he remains unsure.
00:15:37.000I'm about two thirds of the way through it.
00:15:39.000I recommend everybody go check it out for yourself.
00:15:41.000Get the tone and the context for yourself because the reaction to it just feels disproportionate from the reality.
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00:17:05.000And is this from the same people that were saying you have to have an ID that shows you've been vaccinated just four years ago to go to a restaurant?
00:17:54.000There's what people have come to know as the Save America Act, like the statute that includes, and I'm the sponsor of what President Trump wants the kind of five pillars, which is voter ID, you have to be an American citizen to vote in American elections, and then the cutting back on this widespread election or mail in balloting scams that we've seen in different states.
00:18:17.000Then it's no men and women's sports and no transgender mutilation of our kids.
00:18:24.000You know, there's original kind of the first two pieces of that.
00:18:27.000Having said that, that's the piece that if we're going to do it, we have to do the talking filibuster in my mind.
00:18:32.000We have to spend the time on the floor to try to wear down the Democrats or at least kind of just see where everybody's at because they're going to do a quorum call.
00:18:40.000We got to make sure we have 51 people out there all the time.
00:18:43.000What's now being talked about, what the House is considering, is because through reconciliation, although it only requires a simple majority, you can only deal with like budget matters.
00:18:52.000You can't like have a policy change or something like that.
00:18:55.000So, what they're talking about, I think, is to have Dollars in there to support, like, states doing voter ID, making sure that you can check to make sure these are American citizens, that kind of thing.
00:19:08.000So, look, as far as I'm concerned, the more, like, kind of hands rowing in the same direction is good.
00:19:26.000Yeah, but, Senator, I'm seeing that it could be voluntary.
00:19:29.000So the states would have to opt into these grants.
00:19:32.000Trying to carve out $10 billion of grants that could go to the state to support ensuring that if you get a real ID, that would also confirm you're a citizen.
00:19:42.000Is that essentially how I'm reading it?
00:20:32.000The federal government controls federal elections, the states can control their local elections, I suppose.
00:20:38.000It just beggars belief that we can't get this mandated across the states and that it would be an opt in for the worst actors, which are the blue states that don't want to do this anyways because they know it's going to hurt their electoral chances.
00:20:52.000Yeah, Senator Sotkin said the same thing.
00:20:54.000And I would also point out that one of the reasons, you know, I was Attorney General of Missouri and we fought back against, we beat back Mark Elias in Missouri when during COVID they were trying to change our election laws.
00:21:03.000When President Trump, I don't know exactly what he's going to say tonight, but I do think, um, To my Republican colleagues and others, there are mail in balloting schemes.
00:21:12.000When you have a system in your state that just sends these ballots to everybody in the state, whether they've requested them or not, and you have these drop boxes, it's really hard to detect the kind of fraud that we know will happen in that kind of scenario.
00:21:23.000So I've been a big proponent of cracking down on this mail in balloting fraud.
00:21:26.000And whatever we do, I think that should be a part of it.
00:21:58.000People are saying that it's merging the U.S. and Israeli governments together.
00:22:03.000I guess there's two aspects of it there is the intel sharing, and then there's the tech development, the military tech development portion of it.
00:22:13.000Not like a bad idea, and it's not specific to Israel.
00:22:16.000It's specific to the fact that it feels like a bad idea in general.
00:22:20.000You want your military to be completely, you want the country to be sovereign, you want the military to be controlled by the sovereign, not hamstrung by some foreign country.
00:22:29.000What's your position on this, and does it have a realistic chance of actually proceeding and passing?
00:22:41.000And what that section, I guess, purports to do.
00:22:44.000Is it creates a separate office, like almost an executive office outside the president and the legislature to manage this and to coordinate?
00:22:52.000I mean, I think even requiring coordination of intelligence.
00:22:55.000And so, you know, from my perspective, that is not in the Senate, that is in the House.
00:22:59.000But you know me, one of the reasons why Charlie and I hit it off so well from the very beginning is I'm a very America first foreign policy guy with any country.
00:23:31.000I mean, sorry, Senator, we have similar arrangements with the UK and Australia, but we see as our interests with the UK are diverging and they're losing their minds about free speech and Islam and immigration.
00:23:46.000I mean, how much longer can we actually trust that they're a country that is, you know, sharing our interests at a very fundamental level?
00:23:54.000I mean, our values are diverging as we speak.
00:23:58.000So why get in bed so deeply with any foreign power when you can't control said foreign power's political reality, right?
00:24:07.000I think the key is to make sure we have flexibility and not to lock in something that we're required to do because circumstances can change.
00:24:13.000Somebody's asked me why I was so supportive of the president's desire to acquire Greenland.
00:24:20.000And he wasn't talking about invading Greenland, but why is that important?
00:24:23.000Well, first of all, it's in our core national interest.
00:25:29.000This was a mistake by Republicans and Democrats, quite frankly, in that we never renegotiated these trade deals that were made after World War II.
00:25:36.000We never asked the Europeans to step up in a much more meaningful way.
00:25:40.000And it is now finally we have an administration that is focused on kind of the Western hemisphere and, like I said, Communist China.
00:25:47.000That is where our core national interests are, and those are the things I'm advocating for.
00:25:51.000I think you speak that well that we need to.
00:25:54.000America's been so strong, it got so easy for us to just see our interests as the world's interests, but we do need this pullback focus, core American interests first before we save the entire world.
00:28:41.000We've been around the block on this a few times, and I think you and I both know that's the kind of answer that is certainly never going to satisfy a lot of people where he says, Yeah, you know, I think there's something probably there, but, you know, there's no document for it, there's nothing to prove it.
00:28:56.000And you know how I feel about this at this point.
00:29:01.000My suspicion is the reason there's probably no document proving it is there's probably.
00:30:04.000I tend to be of the vice president's persuasion here that I do believe there were ties, I do believe that there were connections.
00:30:10.000To what extent those were formalized, they probably weren't formalized, right?
00:30:13.000And so there's probably not going to be a trail that's visible or available to even the best investigators, the most dispassionate investigators to track down.
00:30:22.000But we certainly know that his rise was very shady.
00:31:55.000The best thing he did, and it's something.
00:31:58.000I think we needed a little earlier, was just the frank acknowledgement that the files could have been handled better by the administration.
00:32:05.000I think he just said, very obviously, we messed this up.
00:32:10.000And I just think back, that's what Charlie was trying to get across a year ago.
00:33:35.000I'm one to believe that JD should be doing this twice a month at least, having these interesting conversations in depth.
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00:35:54.000These people are so stupid, I don't know what to say about it.
00:35:57.000So now we have this idea that these insurgent Democrats, and what is their solution?
00:36:08.000Is their solution to beat Republicans, to run against Republicans?
00:36:19.000No, you are part of the problem because you're an idiot.
00:36:23.000That's the wonderful James Carville with the great bedside manner, as only he can have.
00:36:29.000Lamenting the rise of DSA, which we all should.
00:36:32.000Here to help us unpack that and much more is Sean Spicer, host of The Sean Spicer Show and former White House press secretary.
00:36:38.000Sean, I thought it would be appropriate to have you on today because in just moments, Caroline Levitt is going to be back behind the White House.
00:36:59.000So, what do you make of this rise of DSA?
00:37:01.000I mean, this is a huge new development.
00:37:04.000You've seen it coming for a long time, Sean.
00:37:06.000You've been warning about this for a long time.
00:37:09.000They are ascendant, there is no doubt about it.
00:37:11.000I mean, if you just look at this Israel aid vote that just happened yesterday, I guess they did this two years ago, 18 months ago, and they got about 30, 35 votes to end it.
00:37:34.000And first, Andrew, I'd say that our side needs to understand something that this is not a joke.
00:37:39.000Don't, I mean, I think it's scary and it's kind of funny that people are this stupid that they're buying into it, but don't take it lightly.
00:37:46.000And we saw now the spread of it go from New York out to Colorado and throughout the country.
00:37:50.000And my point is, I think there's some things that sometimes in the movement you see and you go, that's crazy and that's insane.
00:38:25.000And the next thing that flashes is fair required.
00:38:30.000Now, you would think that's kind of silly, right?
00:38:33.000Why would it have to say fair required?
00:38:34.000Well, the reason it says it is because the people in New York, after the election of Zora Mandami, believed that they were going to get free buses.
00:38:41.000And then Zora Mandami got elected, and the harsh reality of budgets set in.
00:39:56.000We think it's a change that would help make this country more democratic.
00:40:01.000What stands out about that to me is extreme.
00:40:05.000It would completely upend two and a half centuries of America's governance project, a very successful constitution we've had.
00:40:13.000But at the same time, Keep in mind, an ordinary American is just going to hear, oh, they abolished the Senate, make it more democratic.
00:40:19.000There's no immediate consequence to that.
00:40:22.000And so I think when he says something like that, it's a challenge to those of us to basically say the reason you can't have that happen is because it will upend good things our government is doing for you.
00:40:33.000And if our government is failing, if our government is not helping young people build wealth, get homes, accomplish the things they want in life, people will just hear, abolish the Senate.
00:41:21.000Cool, like we should do it until you realize that part of the reason the founders gave us the Senate was a check on the House so that you know, God forbid, Hakeem Jeffries and the nutjobs take it over, that they don't just have free reign to do crazy stuff.
00:41:34.000There's a reason for some of these things, and when you offer someone a simple, or easy, or free solution, usually it's for a reason.
00:41:41.000We see this in social media all the time.
00:42:00.000And that's why what I'm trying to say to folks is do not think this is nuts.
00:42:05.000There's an audience that's very appealing to them that they're building, and they're not doing it just in some little vacuum.
00:42:11.000In a lot of urban areas, people are finding a lot of this freeze the rent stuff very attractive.
00:42:18.000And I just think that we've got to be careful that we start informing, particularly what you guys do is so important where you've got a much younger audience than a lot of us who are out there.
00:42:28.000And that people don't get bought into at a young age this notion of everything is easy, everything is free, there's no consequences for anything.
00:42:36.000We can just get rid of all the bad things that we hear we don't like.
00:42:39.000So I think it's critical that we are smart and informative and make sure that we explain a lot of these things a lot more and not just take them for granted.
00:42:48.000There's a lot that I think government doesn't do well or effectively, in fact, most of it.
00:42:52.000But I don't think that that means you throw the baby out with the bathwater every time.
00:43:24.000And so these institutions are essentially falling down on the job, and they're giving them an opening for these radical left wing lunatics that are importing foreign ideologies, foreign tribalism, and foreign communism into the American system.
00:43:38.000They're giving them an opening because they're not doing their Job.
00:43:40.000They're allowing the Senate to get completely bogged down in procedural and parliamentary issues.
00:43:54.000If Americans hear over and over again, we could have this change that seems desirable, except the Senate's in a way, they'll blow up the Senate.
00:44:02.000And America will be, we can't go back from that.
00:44:33.000You talk about the Overton window shifting.
00:44:35.000The idea that we're having a debate about what a woman is.
00:44:41.000And the chancellor of UC San Francisco, I think it was, testified in front of Congress this week and said, I will admit, this is against the chancellor of the university, that the majority of births happen to women.
00:44:54.000But the idea that that is even something that is a discussion is insane.
00:44:59.000And so I warn, when I say I'm warning people, it's if you said to me 10 years ago we'd be having this debate, I would tell you you're nuts.
00:51:14.000President Trump did this for the right reasons.
00:51:16.000I believe that making sure that Iran doesn't have a nuclear weapon and making sure that the threat of Iran stays on their shores, not ours, is the right policy decision.
00:51:36.000What did you do to make our lives better?
00:51:37.000Why are we in the place that we are now?
00:51:39.000Two, what will you do to make our lives even better, more better, betterer, if that's a phrase?
00:51:46.000And then three, remind us the downside of the alternative, which is the Democratic Party and how bad they would be and how crazy their policies are.
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00:54:17.000I got to say, I was looking at doing a traffic analysis, which is a painful part of the job.
00:54:22.000I just want to live in the headlines all day.
00:54:24.000But I got to tell you, we are tuning it on our app.
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00:55:52.000We're going to begin with a few scheduling announcements.
00:55:54.000Tonight, as you all know, at 9 o'clock p.m. Eastern, President Trump will deliver a major address to the nation on protecting the integrity of our elections.
00:56:04.000So that was the first thing she said coming back to the podium at the White House as White House press secretary.
00:56:11.000Alex, I'm hesitant to expect too much because I've been so disappointed on this front so many times.
00:56:18.000I think it's something everybody in this audience is willing to acknowledge.
00:56:34.000What are you hearing about tonight's presser?
00:56:36.000Yeah, he is a man who takes election integrity very seriously.
00:56:40.000It's interesting because you guys have been kind of promoting over and over again my last book, Breaking the Law, where I go through all these cases against President Trump, and a lot of them were kind of predicated on him thinking it was sort of an act that he was fired up about 2020 being stolen, that people thought that it was just something he was using to manipulate.
00:56:59.000But he is unequivocally convinced that that election got stolen from him.
00:57:06.000This is not some sort of a A calculation that he really believes it.
00:57:10.000And so that is core to his being, because I think he feels like that cascade of not being president, massive humiliation, all of the lawsuits, the J6 kangaroo court, all of that came from that election getting stolen.
00:57:23.000And when you see the math, it just doesn't add up.
00:57:25.000I could do all the lists of Biden getting a record level of votes, the Mark Zuckerberg drop boxes, which it looks like they've since made up over that, which is interesting.
00:57:33.000But so many improprieties in that election, all the things in Georgia where all of a sudden they were accepting all these ballots.
00:57:39.000They never would have accepted until weeks before when the rules were changed.
00:57:42.000All these improprieties, Trump is thinking, we got to stop this.
00:57:45.000And then you see case after case after case, all these Democrats lately admitting they'll never win another election if they have voter ID, at least not in the swing states.
00:57:54.000If you have to bring a voter ID to the polls, and then you look at California, where I'm at, where they intentionally mail out ballots to people who are ineligible to vote.
00:58:04.000The craziest thing you could ever imagine if you want to have election integrity.
00:58:08.000We proactively give ballots to ineligible people.
00:58:11.000Trump is looking at all that and saying, We got to do something, or else I'm not as successful as I can be.
00:58:16.000Yeah, on that note, let's go ahead and play this.
00:59:18.000Well, if it's not 0%, Where's it coming from?
00:59:21.000And so much of it is yeah, if you're sending ballots to ineligible people or you're sending ballots to just literally anyone and you're allowing people to be paid to get people to sign up, paid to collect ballots, people can harvest as many ballots as they want.
00:59:38.000And I think that's the real secret weapon that Democrats have benefited from is when they can decentralize the process of potential fraud.
00:59:45.000Like mail ballots, you send a mail ballot to everyone, and someone goes and they fill out all of their family's ballots, they nag them to sign it, they Hand it to a harvester, turn it in.
01:00:16.000They have a process where there's little bits here and there that you can insert votes that shouldn't be counted, and people don't trust it.
01:00:26.000To fight for a process that not only makes fraud harder, but especially looks like it is a lot less fraudulent and fairer.
01:00:34.000Or otherwise, people are going to check out and think it's all fake.
01:00:37.000I got to say that watching this clip, yeah, JD had a great response where he said, Well, if you guys think there's no fraud, then just let us have the IDs and then we'll feel better about it.
01:00:46.000Then you can prove how all of us are wrong, which I thought was a great point.
01:00:48.000But if you look at how they do it in California, IDs are banned.
01:01:18.000Every single place where you could find fraud.
01:01:20.000And this is why Blake's point is the most important point you can make is the decentralization.
01:01:24.000There's so many ways and moments where you can interfere and cheat.
01:01:27.000And that's why they like that system because they know it would take a Herculean effort to police all of it.
01:01:32.000So we need to have much more standardization and make it so that there are fewer fail points, fewer points where you're in a scenario where someone can manipulate.
01:01:40.000One of the biggest ones that stands out to me, and I just remembered this think about the number of people we have in care homes people getting dementia, Alzheimer's, people who clearly do not really have the ability to know what ballot they're casting.
01:01:52.000Well, we've had endless suspicious cases where a lot of ballots have been collected from a care home.
01:01:58.000You can imagine these carers going around, oh, do you want to have a vote?
01:02:01.000Oh, I can help you fill out this ballot.
01:02:03.000You're always allowed to help people fill out ballots.
01:02:06.000You can provide interpreters on ballots.
01:02:10.000And are we going to be able to have investigators go and police every nursing home, prosecute every nurse or caregiver who does something suspicious?
01:02:50.000And then we pushed forward this whole universal suffrage movement.
01:02:54.000And now it's sort of like, well, even immigrants should be able to vote.
01:02:58.000I mean, the bastardization of how much value we place in a vote and the disenfranchisement of actual Americans because we can't trust our own elections is truly a civic sin.
01:03:11.000I mean, it really, really is such a sin.
01:03:15.000I back his play a thousand percent on this and JD Vance's in this because if we cannot trust our own elections, then the whole thing's a sham.
01:03:23.000And the fact that they are admitting openly that they will not be able to win elections in some places if they don't have these loose standards is a pure and unadulterated indictment of their own position.
01:03:55.000And the problem is not anywhere near to being fixed.
01:03:58.000And the fact they play dumb on this and act like we're a bunch of Looney Tunes conspiracy theorists because we're still asking questions is just absolutely nuts.
01:04:55.000Yeah, I think that that's always a reasonable question.
01:04:57.000I think a lot of people that I talk to within the White House who are not necessarily buddied up with a lot of the people who dominate the podcast space, I really do say that the intelligence we get from the Israelis is second to none.
01:05:14.000And I've been very critical of their PR, as was Charlie over the last year.
01:05:18.000I think they've not been helpful in the Iran war in general, but I maintain overall, people on the inside tell me that their intelligence is the best and doing things to facilitate.
01:05:29.000Getting that intelligence, it doesn't really have to do necessarily with what you think personally of Netanyahu and how he's running his government.
01:05:34.000And I think that that's an important thing to think about contextually.
01:05:38.000But it is always good to reappraise allies and adversaries.
01:06:00.000On his threats to countries like NATO, where if you think we're friends, then you better behave like friends.
01:06:06.000Georgia Maloney, we love you, but if you're not going to let us use bases when we're doing a strategic bombing of Iran, he's not going to forget that, and there's going to be consequences.
01:06:47.000And there is some indication that Benjamin Netanyahu is the one advancing this.
01:06:51.000Yeah, you were going to chime in there.
01:06:52.000Yeah, I just am curious who are the best spokespeople for it and against it?
01:06:58.000Because it seems like a lot of Thomas Massey, Ro Khanna, people who are always trying to get in front of a microphone or behind a keyboard to rage about Israel, it seems like those are the guys who are the biggest, the most vocal people.
01:07:08.000So I'm trying to see who's going to emerge and make a really, not necessarily a social media friendly case, but like a serious case one way or the other.
01:07:15.000And I don't know who to turn to in that at the moment.