The Charlie Kirk Show - JD Vance's Winning Debate Strategy ft. Rep. Byron Donalds

00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, Alex Clark joins the program about her new podcast, Culture Apothecary, and Byron Donalds joins us to preview the vice presidential debate.

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00:00:22.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.

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00:01:21.000 We have a very special guest who is going viral, and I'm very happy about that.

00:01:26.000 Alex Clark, hello.

00:01:28.000 Hello.

00:01:29.000 What a whirlwind of a week.

00:01:30.000 Are you sleeping at all?

00:01:31.000 I've barely slept.

00:01:33.000 Barely slept.

00:01:33.000 I'm running on fumes, but in the best way.

00:01:36.000 This is so exciting.

00:01:36.000 I know the feeling.

00:01:37.000 Yeah.

00:01:38.000 I know the feeling when all of a sudden you kind of hit that curve.

00:01:40.000 Yeah.

00:01:41.000 And that's where kind of you're at right now, where it's like you've been waiting for that moment.

00:01:44.000 Finally.

00:01:46.000 It's really unbelievable.

00:01:48.000 So I had the privilege this Monday to speak on a panel in front of the Senate to testify on behalf of chronic disease in this country and the health of children, holding Big Food and Big Pharma accountable.

00:02:01.000 It was spearheaded by Senator Ron Johnson and RFK Jr.

00:02:06.000 and it was a powerhouse of all kinds of people.

00:02:09.000 Harvard, Stanford medical doctors, Nutritionists, activists, all just speaking on behalf of the health crisis that we're in in this country and asking people to please come together, totally nonpartisan, totally nonpartisan panel, to come together to help save the next generation of American kids.

00:02:29.000 And you have an amazing podcast that's soaring because the old thing's gone.

00:02:33.000 Yes.

00:02:34.000 And it's called Culture Apothecary. 0.83

00:02:36.000 Yeah, Culture Apothecary is my show and I rebranded.

00:02:40.000 It's number three right now of all Apple health podcasts.

00:02:43.000 Number three and it was just, it's all coming together perfectly because it's a health and wellness podcast and now this is like the main political conversation and it's the top health and wellness podcast on the conservative right.

00:02:54.000 So that's really cool.

00:02:56.000 It's amazing.

00:02:56.000 Let's play some of this tape here of your incredible testimony in front of the U.S.

00:03:00.000 Senate regarding chronic disease, health, wellness.

00:03:03.000 Let's play cut 64.

00:03:05.000 My average listener, like me, is a woman in her late 20s and early 30s.

00:03:09.000 and we demand accountability for how the millennial generation was turned into a science experiment

00:03:16.000 without our informed consent for the sake of enriching Big Pharma, Big Ag, and Big Food.

00:03:21.000 Millennial women have started to have kids for the first time and they are disillusioned with 0.99

00:03:31.000 how hard it has become to not only get pregnant but also raise kids who are healthy, happy,

00:03:37.000 and mentally well.

00:03:38.000 Today, I am proud to represent them.

00:03:43.000 The poisoning of our food and the environment is the issue for these independent women. 1.00

00:03:48.000 It is devastating us and our children.

00:03:51.000 Tell us more, Alex.

00:03:52.000 Well, I just went into the whole timeline of how millennial women in particular have been targeted by the corruption in the food and pharma industry.

00:04:00.000 We were the ones where the vaccine schedule started to explode in the late 80s, early 90s.

00:04:05.000 Now you've got kids receiving up to 70 vaccinations by the time they turn 18.

00:04:10.000 We're not getting healthier.

00:04:11.000 We're getting sicker.

00:04:12.000 This is something that they don't want us to talk about.

00:04:14.000 And I just drew attention to how horrible our childhood was.

00:04:18.000 Growing up, the vaccine schedule explodes, disease goes up.

00:04:21.000 The food pyramid that we were taught in school was a complete sham.

00:04:24.000 We were lied to.

00:04:25.000 Millennial women were told that we had to be on birth control. 1.00

00:04:27.000 We were not given true informed consent about hormonal birth control, that our anxiety, depression rates would go up 80%.

00:04:34.000 We then tried to get pregnant, having trouble now getting pregnant because the hormonal birth control was hiding different hormonal issues that would, you know, cause infertility issues.

00:04:45.000 And then now raising kids ourselves, all the different hoops we have to jump through.

00:04:49.000 If we ask questions to our pediatrician about the vaccine schedule,

00:04:53.000 we could be reported to child protection services or kicked out of our pediatrician's office

00:04:59.000 and told we're not allowed to come back.

00:05:01.000 The fact that you can't get baby formula in this country that isn't filled with seed oils or soy.

00:05:06.000 You have to order it out of the country from Europe to come in. 0.93

00:05:10.000 Human breast milk is filled with microplastics now because of all the plastic that we're consuming on a day-to-day basis.

00:05:16.000 Our brains, we talked about the panel, someone else on the panel brought up how our brains now are basically coated in plastic because of how much we're consuming and the health issues that's causing.

00:05:25.000 So I just told the story of what millennial moms today have gone through and are going through.

00:05:31.000 And the reception was insane.

00:05:34.000 So they waited till the very end.

00:05:37.000 I spoke last after this four-hour panel.

00:05:40.000 And Senator Ron Johnson said, we've saved the best for last.

00:05:43.000 I think he was just being nice, like just saying that because I was last.

00:05:46.000 But then I got two standing ovations and everybody was just like, Geeking out, going crazy, a whole like line, picture line formed after of all these bombs that said, I didn't know you before.

00:05:55.000 Now I'm so excited to listen to your podcast.

00:05:58.000 And people were just so excited because that was my mission.

00:06:02.000 I was like, I'm not the expert.

00:06:03.000 I'm just going to speak on behalf of them and what I know they wish people would know about their day-to-day life and struggles.

00:06:09.000 And I think that resonated in a way that I just, I thought it would resonate, but I didn't know it would resonate that much.

00:06:14.000 And I'm just so grateful that it did because now everyone is talking about it.

00:06:17.000 For good reason and well earned.

00:06:19.000 We've been working with Alex for many years and you are hitting the stride and the inflection point.

00:06:25.000 Very proud of you.

00:06:26.000 Play cut 65.

00:06:27.000 The next generation of children is predicted to not outlive their parents if we continue on the trajectory that we are currently on.

00:06:36.000 When in human history has that ever been the case?

00:06:40.000 We are fatter than any prior generation at this age.

00:06:43.000 We're having more fertility issues. 0.96

00:06:45.000 New cancer diagnoses in the U.S.

00:06:46.000 are projected to top 2 million for the first time this year.

00:06:50.000 And these new cases are almost all driven by young people.

00:06:55.000 This is according to American Cancer Society data.

00:06:58.000 What happened?

00:06:59.000 So Alex, you're hitting on something really powerful here.

00:07:02.000 Young people know that they're inheriting a worse country than their parents.

00:07:05.000 Harder to own homes, more depressed, more suicidal.

00:07:08.000 It's just more difficult than what our parents had.

00:07:10.000 But you're also saying they're not going to live as long.

00:07:13.000 Like everything is worse for young people.

00:07:16.000 Why is that?

00:07:17.000 Because the food and pharma has captured absolutely all of the information that we're given about health.

00:07:22.000 And so we are declining at such a rapid rate.

00:07:26.000 It's shockingly terrifying.

00:07:28.000 And the point that I made was, you know, obviously day-to-day politics are important.

00:07:32.000 Everything that you're discussing on your show is so incredibly crucial and important.

00:07:36.000 But what happens if nobody is alive to vote on these issues?

00:07:41.000 So everything we talk about, all these like little, you know, political issues in the economy, whatever, If there's nobody around, then it's all null and void.

00:07:51.000 So we have to do something.

00:07:53.000 And I also love, this is why the RFK endorsement to Trump is so important.

00:07:56.000 This is why I came on your show a few weeks ago and I said, Charlie, I can't express to you how important this is.

00:08:01.000 I knew that this was the number one issue with female voters. 1.00

00:08:04.000 We may have just cinched Once and for all, the suburban mom vote with this panel, with RFK Jr.

00:08:12.000 there, knowing that he would be a part of the Trump administration if Trump wins.

00:08:16.000 And so I have gotten thousands and thousands of messages over the course of the past few days.

00:08:22.000 I have gained like 40, 40-something thousand followers just in the last couple days alone, and it's still climbing because of these clips.

00:08:28.000 And it's all moms now messaging me saying, I didn't know you.

00:08:30.000 I haven't heard of you.

00:08:32.000 Everything you said was true.

00:08:33.000 I was bawling my eyes out listening to that as a mom.

00:08:35.000 What do I do?

00:08:36.000 How do I get involved?

00:08:37.000 How can I make a difference?

00:08:39.000 And every single one of them, I'm replying, vote Trump.

00:08:41.000 Tell your friends to vote Trump.

00:08:43.000 Tell your neighbor, mom, friends, and your mom groups, playdate groups, to vote Trump.

00:08:47.000 And they're all like, okay, done.

00:08:49.000 I'm willing to do it.

00:08:50.000 So this is it.

00:08:51.000 This is it.

00:08:52.000 And this is why I've been hammering this.

00:08:54.000 This is why RFK Jr.

00:08:55.000 has been hammering this.

00:08:57.000 If we're worried about the women, keep hammering the health and wellness. 1.00

00:09:01.000 It is working because And just so everyone understands, Trump has already made good on his promise.

00:09:06.000 every day.

00:09:07.000 On a personal level.

00:09:08.000 Personal level.

00:09:09.000 And they were emotional.

00:09:10.000 They were bawling their eyes out watching my speech because what I was saying is true

00:09:14.000 and they know that we are at a crossroads here.

00:09:16.000 This is it.

00:09:17.000 This is the only opportunity we have to fix things.

00:09:19.000 And just so everyone understands, Trump has already made good on his promise.

00:09:22.000 RFK's on the transition team.

00:09:24.000 So if you guys don't understand, the transition team basically is the, they're the leadership,

00:09:29.000 they're the general managers that fill the 5,000 positions of the government.

00:09:33.000 RFK's already involved in that.

00:09:34.000 So it's not even a matter of like, oh, I will.

00:09:36.000 He already has.

00:09:37.000 He's a co-chair of the entire transition team.

00:09:39.000 And so that's something to kind of go back to, you know, some of these moms be like, no, he's already making decisions.

00:09:44.000 He's already involved in stuff.

00:09:45.000 Let's play cut 66.

00:09:47.000 Growing up, millennials were handed health advice that was inaccurate, mistaken, or downright fabricated.

00:09:54.000 Almost everything that we were taught about food and health was made up.

00:10:00.000 The only guidance that we received on what to eat came in 1992 via the Food Pyramid, a completely manipulated work of fake public health crafted by the Department of Agriculture.

00:10:15.000 The food pyramid told us that all fat was bad, a lie.

00:10:18.000 It told us to make complex carbs like pasta, bread, and processed breakfast cereal the bedrock of our diet, not because it was healthy, but because it was the most profitable recommendation for Big Ag and Big Food.

00:10:30.000 I grew up in a country, Alex, where my parents were told by our doctors and society, carbs first, carbs first, carbs first.

00:10:38.000 And it was all a scam.

00:10:40.000 It was to make us fat, sick, depressed, and unhappy.

00:10:43.000 And the corporations made billions of dollars.

00:10:45.000 And they want to make billions more dollars on us.

00:10:48.000 Culture apothecary?

00:10:50.000 That's the podcast.

00:10:50.000 Yeah, follow me anywhere you get your podcasts or Rhea Alex Clark on YouTube.

00:10:54.000 I'm sure you know how to spell it now.

00:10:55.000 Oh, yeah.

00:10:56.000 I can't spell.

00:10:59.000 Charlie's good at a lot of things.

00:11:00.000 Spelling is not one of them.

00:11:01.000 I'm not a good speller.

00:11:02.000 And it's doing very well.

00:11:04.000 We're number three right now today in health.

00:11:06.000 And I'm like right behind Matt Walsh on the overall podcast charts today on Spotify.

00:11:12.000 So it's very cool.

00:11:13.000 We're on the up and up.

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00:12:16.000 noblegoldinvestments.com. Tell us about this Atlantic article. I'm trying to find the title

00:12:23.000 here.

00:12:24.000 The Atlantic decided after seeing a nonpartisan roundtable discussion in the Senate about

00:12:29.000 children's health and food and pharma corruption to write a hit piece.

00:12:34.000 And they called it the Woo-Woo Caucus.

00:12:36.000 Proud member.

00:12:37.000 Proud member of the Woo-Woo Caucus right here.

00:12:39.000 Anybody else?

00:12:40.000 We need stickers.

00:12:40.000 We need shirts.

00:12:41.000 Blake is a huge Woo-Woo fan, just for the record.

00:12:44.000 Okay, I love that.

00:12:45.000 Yeah, we love Blake.

00:12:47.000 So, the article is pretty nasty and labels you guys as right-wing extremists.

00:12:53.000 Of course, yeah.

00:12:54.000 Caring about children's health.

00:12:56.000 Right-wing extremism.

00:12:57.000 Working out.

00:12:58.000 Right-wing extremism.

00:12:59.000 Drinking non-pasteurized milk.

00:13:01.000 Right-wing extremism.

00:13:02.000 So interesting.

00:13:03.000 What is it about the idea of reaffirming your sovereignty with health that is such a threat to the corporate media and the Democrat Party of that I'm going to not be obese, I'm going to eat clean, I'm going to not have processed foods, I'm going to eat whole foods, I'm going to balance out my micros and macros, I'm going to go for a walk every day, I'm going to get vitamin D, not take hormonal birth control.

00:13:26.000 Why is that met with such hostility?

00:13:29.000 Shouldn't that be met with my body, my choice? 0.99

00:13:31.000 Well, you would think so, but that only applies to killing babies. 0.93

00:13:35.000 The truth is that the sicker we are, the more riddled with brain fog we are, we can't think, we can't move.

00:13:41.000 They control us, and they know that.

00:13:43.000 So they are terrified, and this Atlantic article really proves corporate capture here.

00:13:49.000 They're getting a ton of money from the pharmaceutical industry, and so of course they're going to come out with an article slamming this nonpartisan panel advocating for children's health in this country.

00:14:01.000 It's truly incredible.

00:14:02.000 They said that we were trying to make Froot Loops boring again because we showed the example.

00:14:07.000 We had a bag of Froot Loops from outside of America and we showed Froot Loops from America with artificial dyes.

00:14:13.000 The other ones were colored with like fruit colorings and natural ways to have, you know, color in your cereal versus the artificial ones that cause cancer and behavioral issues and I guess we're making cereal boring, so be it.

00:14:25.000 If that means saving children's lives, then I guess we'll make cereal boring.

00:14:28.000 But it's like, who in the world would write a hit piece on that?

00:14:31.000 Why would you complain about that?

00:14:33.000 It just, it's really disturbing.

00:14:36.000 And you know, I don't know if the Atlantic hates children.

00:14:38.000 I don't know.

00:14:39.000 But I think that this article begs the question, if they do, they'll have to answer that.

00:14:45.000 And the Atlantic is owned by Lorene Pell Jobs, one of the top Democrat donors, worth $20 billion.

00:14:50.000 In pharma companies.

00:14:51.000 Yes.

00:14:52.000 It's a theme, Alex.

00:14:52.000 The more popular you get, you're going to be receiving these attacks where anything that makes you healthier, the powerful people hate.

00:15:01.000 What is that all about?

00:15:03.000 Well, because.

00:15:04.000 That's the thing about controlling us.

00:15:07.000 Remember, it was not the conservative right who was the first people to start talking about health and raw milk and, you know, not relying on the government for these types of things.

00:15:18.000 It was the crunchy granola liberals.

00:15:21.000 Yes, you're exactly right.

00:15:23.000 The original Whole Food Shopper was a liberal, crunchy Democrat mom. 0.99

00:15:27.000 It wasn't a conservative like you and I. So they're upset because finally we were like, oh, okay, this was actually one issue that you guys were right on.

00:15:36.000 They were right.

00:15:37.000 I'm fine with admitting that.

00:15:38.000 But now that we finally came around and said that, now they don't want anything to do with us.

00:15:42.000 It was also not conservatives that were anti-vax.

00:15:46.000 It was celebrity liberals.

00:15:48.000 It was people like Jim Carrey and, oh my gosh, Gosh, I'm forgetting her name.

00:15:54.000 The woman? 0.87

00:15:54.000 Yeah, the woman. 0.87

00:15:55.000 The blonde girl.

00:15:56.000 I'm blanking on her name.

00:15:58.000 But they were the ones that were going around mainstream media, going on Larry King Live and stuff like that and talking about the problems with the vaccination schedule exploding.

00:16:05.000 And so it wasn't conservatives.

00:16:07.000 It's just it's amazing how the tables turn.

00:16:09.000 And so if you're really paying attention, you have to say, even if you're like, I'm not comfortable saying I'm a conservative.

00:16:14.000 Jenny McCarthy.

00:16:15.000 Jenny McCarthy.

00:16:16.000 That's right.

00:16:16.000 And Jim Carrey.

00:16:17.000 If you're even if you're like, I'm not comfortable saying I'm a conservative.

00:16:20.000 Fine.

00:16:20.000 But you're like, you know, something isn't right.

00:16:23.000 Yeah, and I just, again, the whole movement that you guys are talking about is we want people to be happier and healthier, not fat, not overweight.

00:16:30.000 We want your blood work to be better.

00:16:32.000 Who could be against something like that unless you want a diseased and sick society?

00:16:35.000 Which they do.

00:16:36.000 Which they do.

00:16:37.000 They fully outed themselves. 0.99

00:16:38.000 They really, I mean, I'm just convinced, especially with this Atlantic article, these people want your children dead.

00:16:43.000 If they don't die in abortion, they want to die from vaccines or they want them so unbelievably sick from the food and pharma.

00:16:51.000 That then they'll be able to just be a drone that they can control for the rest of their entire adult life and just make money off of them.

00:16:58.000 Yeah, and it really is that.

00:16:59.000 I hope you guys understand that in order to control society, they want you depressed and sad.

00:17:05.000 If you were to eat healthy, if you eat unprocessed foods, if you eat meat, if you eat eggs, if you eat vegetables that are not processed through this nonsense, you're going to be a better person.

00:17:19.000 So, Max Lugavere sat next to me on the panel.

00:17:21.000 Genius Foods, great book.

00:17:22.000 Yes, yes.

00:17:23.000 And he's the podcast owner of The Genius Life, and he made a great, he said a great quote.

00:17:27.000 He said, if your grocery store has a health food section, what does that make the food in the rest of the store?

00:17:34.000 The answer is, it's not food.

00:17:35.000 Yeah, the genius foods are amazing, by the way.

00:17:37.000 It's like salmon, blueberries, dark chocolate, the 12 genius foods that you guys should follow.

00:17:43.000 Thank you so much, Alex Clark.

00:17:45.000 Culture apothecary.

00:17:46.000 Thank you.

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00:18:48.000 Joining us now is Byron Donalds, a great American, and Blake is also co-piloting throughout this.

00:18:54.000 Byron, welcome to the program.

00:18:56.000 Byron, I want your reaction, I know that you were talking to our team, about our voter registration success at Arizona State University.

00:19:03.000 Listen, I just think it's really cool and I think it's awesome.

00:19:06.000 You know, young people in our country, they need to just hear other viewpoints.

00:19:11.000 Charlie, your organization, being out there at college campuses, really does that.

00:19:16.000 I know the one clip that went viral is when you and Bravake were out in Pennsylvania and the one young lady came to the microphone and, you know, Charlie, I know you were kind of the tough cop, Bravake was the good cop, but that's all right.

00:19:28.000 But I think that kind of footage and that dialogue is what young people really need.

00:19:33.000 The voter registration drive out of ASU, man, that's phenomenal.

00:19:36.000 The response is phenomenal.

00:19:38.000 And I think that it bodes well, not just for this election cycle, but really for the future of the country.

00:19:44.000 Because we've left a lot of these, we left these universities, we didn't really pay attention to them politically, as Republicans and as conservatives.

00:19:52.000 So now that you have this movement starting again, to really help young people understand what's really at stake in these elections, and that there are other choices in these elections, that's only going to help the country really thrive and succeed.

00:20:04.000 Yeah, and talk about Byron.

00:20:05.000 You guys flipped Florida from a battleground state to now a deep red state.

00:20:10.000 We're trying to replicate some of that in Arizona.

00:20:13.000 What were some of the ingredients that you guys did to now where Florida, thankfully, is solidly going to be in Trump's column?

00:20:19.000 Well, first it started with voter registration drives.

00:20:21.000 This was 10 years in the making.

00:20:24.000 Our POF chairman at the time, Blaise Ngolia, who I served with when he was chairman, he and then Governor Rick Scott, they started the effort of doing voter registration drives nonstop.

00:20:36.000 We were down around 600,000 voters compared to the Democrats about a decade ago.

00:20:43.000 Now we have a 1 million Voter registration advantage over the Democrats.

00:20:47.000 So that's part of it.

00:20:48.000 The second part was in the state Capitol, really for the last 30 years, moving Florida from a blue state to a red state.

00:20:55.000 It's been about economic freedom.

00:20:57.000 It's been about academic freedom, school choice.

00:21:00.000 It's been about crime, low taxes, and really consistently pushing that agenda every legislative session in Tallahassee.

00:21:08.000 And that's how you saw Florida just shift really over about 20 years from a blue state to a purple state and then in the last 10 years moving to a red state.

00:21:19.000 Yeah, that's right.

00:21:20.000 And it's been a lot of work over a period of time.

00:21:22.000 And now Florida, it's nice, Byron.

00:21:25.000 I know that in some ways you'd love to have the president do more events in Florida, but it's nice that we don't have to worry about it.

00:21:30.000 And contrast that in 2020.

00:21:32.000 Remember, Byron?

00:21:33.000 We had a campaign in Iowa.

00:21:34.000 We had a campaign in Ohio.

00:21:36.000 Trump was doing rallies in Florida up until a week before the election.

00:21:40.000 Byron, we don't have to worry about this time around.

00:21:42.000 Yeah, I agree.

00:21:43.000 And look, in Florida and those other states, Iowa, we're going to take care of business in those states.

00:21:47.000 I mean, we're not leaving it behind.

00:21:49.000 But, you know, you do have the political operations that are very strong in those states.

00:21:53.000 From the Republican side of the aisle, and we're going to turn out voters like we do every single election.

00:21:58.000 It does help you when you're in a resource battle.

00:22:01.000 And look, I mean, I hate raising money and most politicians hate raising money.

00:22:06.000 But the reality is money is necessary to push your message.

00:22:10.000 And so when you're able to focus your resources into key battleground states like Pennsylvania,

00:22:15.000 like Wisconsin, like Arizona, Nevada as well, and many others, then you can marshal all your resources.

00:22:23.000 Like I hear from people around the country, they'll say, well, I'm not seeing the ads

00:22:28.000 or I'm not hearing this.

00:22:29.000 And I say, that's because your state is red.

00:22:31.000 We're focusing those resources.

00:22:33.000 But I was in Wisconsin last week, and I'll tell you, I just turned on the Michigan USC game

00:22:39.000 I was changing into my suit for the dinner and every ad was political.

00:22:44.000 And so you could tell that we were focusing our resources into Wisconsin like we should be, and that's happening in all the battleground states.

00:22:49.000 Yeah, it's funny.

00:22:50.000 I was recently in a red state, and they're like, you know, I can't get any Trump signs, and I don't see any Trump ads.

00:22:57.000 I said, guys, that's a good thing.

00:22:58.000 It means the Trump campaign's focusing their resources where it really matters.

00:23:02.000 So, Byron, coming up on Tuesday might be one of the most important days of this election, which is the vice presidential debate.

00:23:11.000 Typically, these don't get a ton of attention.

00:23:13.000 There might be one or two one-liners that people remember.

00:23:17.000 Interestingly, Joe Biden really helped Barack Obama back in 2012 when Barack Obama had a terrible first debate, and then Biden kind of bailed him out soon after.

00:23:29.000 Vance is exceptional.

00:23:29.000 J.D.

00:23:30.000 He's an all-star player.

00:23:32.000 What can we expect, and what is your advice going into Tuesday?

00:23:35.000 Well, I think this is actually going to be a very important debate, and the reason why is because we've heard nothing from Kamala Harris and Tim Walz.

00:23:44.000 And so the nation doesn't know who Tim Walz is.

00:23:46.000 I mean, people are still trying to figure out who Kamala Harris is, and she's not helping with these word salad interviews that are softballs, and she can't even do that right. 1.00

00:23:55.000 So what you're going to see, I think, from J.D.

00:23:58.000 is going to be a meticulous dissection of the disaster that has been the Kamala Harris-Joe Biden administration and how their plans are even worse than what they've done the last three and a half years.

00:24:10.000 And I'm not really sure what you're going to get out of Tim Walz.

00:24:12.000 This is really his first time on the big stage like this.

00:24:17.000 And because they've been hiding from the media, they're not prepared, in my view, To have to do this on the fly, not without being able to clip the interviews or clip your phrases the way you want.

00:24:30.000 He's going to be in a back and forth in a tough interview with J.D.

00:24:34.000 Vance in a tough situation.

00:24:36.000 Meanwhile, J.D., you've seen it, Charlie.

00:24:38.000 J.D.

00:24:39.000 has been all over the media nonstop for two months, really pushing the narrative.

00:24:44.000 Checking the media, pushing back on tough media, so I know he's more than prepared to step into Tuesday night's debate.

00:24:51.000 It'll really be a contrast in what voters are looking at right now who are undecided.

00:24:57.000 On one hand, you have Donald Trump and J.D.

00:25:00.000 Vance.

00:25:00.000 You know what they're going to do.

00:25:01.000 You know what they stand for.

00:25:03.000 Whether you agree, disagree, love, like, may not, may not like, is irrelevant.

00:25:08.000 You know what's coming.

00:25:10.000 versus Kamala Harris and Tim Walz, you have no idea what they really stand for, except

00:25:15.000 that Hollywood and the media just seem to like them.

00:25:18.000 I don't think that's going to be enough for them to be successful.

00:25:21.000 I think this debate is going to be watched.

00:25:24.000 It's going to be clipped a lot.

00:25:25.000 And the clipping of these debates, I think, matters even more than the actual live debate.

00:25:30.000 And it's going to be, in my view, a technical knockout by J.D.

00:25:34.000 Vance.

00:25:34.000 Yeah.

00:25:35.000 And Blake, do you have a thought on the upcoming VP debate?

00:25:38.000 I thought your takes, you know, we've discussed this a lot in private, and I think your takes are very good that you seize the advantage.

00:25:46.000 First of all, you don't talk about Walls, you just talk about Kamala.

00:25:49.000 You can ignore him if you want.

00:25:51.000 And you can seize the opportunity to make a lot of the arguments that Trump, just by disposition, usually doesn't make.

00:25:57.000 So you just talk about, you know, how he can really produce all of the specific numbers, like the polls say we're up.

00:26:05.000 8 points on the border.

00:26:06.000 We're up 9 points on the economy.

00:26:08.000 And this is why the American people think that way.

00:26:10.000 Vance is the right guy to make that very specific, practiced argument.

00:26:15.000 And he's an accessory to Trump in a really good way.

00:26:19.000 And that's why we think he was a good choice.

00:26:21.000 Yeah, and Byron, just to kind of couple on that, is that J.D.

00:26:24.000 should almost, he should continue the Harris-Trump debate, not make it a new debate.

00:26:31.000 Just prosecute the case against Harris and just basically say, OK, your boss, Tim Walz, your boss has failed at the border.

00:26:37.000 Your boss has failed with inflation.

00:26:40.000 And make it less about Walz and make it more about Kamala Harris, because people aren't really voting for V.P.s right now.

00:26:45.000 They're voting for presidential candidates.

00:26:47.000 No, I completely agree.

00:26:49.000 And there's so much room that J.D.

00:26:52.000 can operate in, because pick an issue in politics today, Kamala Harris has been a failure. 1.00

00:26:58.000 She's a failure because she was the tie-breaking vote. 1.00

00:27:01.000 J.D.

00:27:01.000 and I have had that conversation.

00:27:03.000 That's what I'm telling you.

00:27:04.000 I think he's going to be more than ready.

00:27:06.000 And even all of the work he's done with these tough interviews, he's going to be ready for the moderators as well.

00:27:13.000 And I believe he's going to end up fact-checking them in real time, which, you know, as a conservative, that's going to be a personal treat for me.

00:27:20.000 But at the end of the day, it is about the continued, to use the Kamala Harris phrase, the prosecution of her record and her disastrous record as vice president and what she would do if the American people gave her four more, gave her four years.

00:27:36.000 And so I think he's going to do very well Tuesday night.

00:27:38.000 So Byron, how are you going to be spending your time this closing season?

00:27:42.000 You're in a comfortable race, I assume, down in Collier County, Florida, so you have a lot of free time coming up.

00:27:48.000 Where are you going to be helping?

00:27:49.000 Where are you going to be focusing?

00:27:50.000 I'm going to be everywhere.

00:27:51.000 I will be at the debate on Tuesday.

00:27:53.000 I'll be in the spin room for President Trump and for J.D.

00:27:57.000 I'll be there doing that.

00:27:58.000 I'm everywhere, man.

00:28:00.000 I basically have cleaned out half my calendar, had to move or cancel some events that were pre-planned because everything is about being in these battleground states, helping President Trump become the 47th president.

00:28:11.000 I'll do some work for a couple of members of Congress who are in tough districts, go and help them in their areas.

00:28:18.000 But it's all hands on deck right now.

00:28:20.000 So, you know, my wife has given me a special dispensation of grace to be on the road for the next 39 days.

00:28:26.000 I know what that's all like right now.

00:28:28.000 We're all kind of in the final sprint mode.

00:28:31.000 Byron, it felt like this election has been years in the making.

00:28:35.000 Our elections are way too long in this country.

00:28:36.000 Let me be very clear.

00:28:37.000 This kind of multi-year presidential election thing is not good.

00:28:41.000 But we have to dig deep, dig deep and finish the last 39 days.

00:28:45.000 Final thoughts, Byron.

00:28:46.000 Listen, everybody, get out and vote.

00:28:48.000 At the end of the day, it doesn't matter if you don't do your job.

00:28:51.000 Get out and vote.

00:28:51.000 I would stress, go vote early so the campaign can focus on those last minute voters and get them to the polls.

00:28:58.000 In some respects, this is a turnout election.

00:29:00.000 So if you've been frustrated for the last four years, get out and vote.

00:29:04.000 I think President Trump said, go get your uncle off the couch when he was in New York.

00:29:08.000 Get your uncle off the couch. 0.81

00:29:10.000 Make sure he gets the hell out and vote.

00:29:12.000 Don't play games with this election cycle.

00:29:14.000 Everything's on the line.

00:29:15.000 Those are my thoughts.

00:29:16.000 We can really win this.

00:29:17.000 I think the win's at our back, but people have to do their part now.

00:29:20.000 Get to the polls.

00:29:21.000 Cast your ballot.

00:29:22.000 Byron Donalds, thank you so much.

00:29:24.000 Excellent work as always.

00:29:25.000 Thank you.

00:29:26.000 Thanks, Charlie.

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00:30:31.000 Just a reminder, we will be in Missoula, Montana on Monday.

00:30:37.000 I will be doing a Prove Me Wrong, and then I will also be doing an event with Tim Sheehy, who is running for the United States Senate against Jon Tester.

00:30:46.000 How do his chances look, by the way, Tim Sheehy?

00:30:48.000 Definitely.

00:30:49.000 I think it's probably our best shot outside of the West Virginia one, which is basically automatic.

00:30:57.000 It's a very Republican state.

00:30:59.000 It's one we should win.

00:31:00.000 We really should have gotten it six years ago, but he hung on.

00:31:03.000 That was too bad.

00:31:06.000 I wonder if I'm going to check the prediction markets.

00:31:08.000 That's what I always like to check when I'm not sure.

00:31:11.000 So we'll be there on Monday.

00:31:13.000 The event is called Save Big Sky, and if you guys want to attend, if you're in Montana, the event will be at tpaction.com slash big sky.

00:31:26.000 That is tpaction.com slash big sky with Tim Sheehy, Great American.

00:31:32.000 It is a 3.30 p.m.

00:31:34.000 start because that night is a debate that Tim has against Jon Tester.

00:31:40.000 So we're there to rally in support of Tim Sheehy.

00:31:42.000 We're doing a campus event during the day as well with voter registration.

00:31:46.000 So Monday is all Montana.

00:31:49.000 That's right.

00:31:50.000 It is Montana Day at Turning Point Action with Charlie Kirk Show.

00:31:53.000 And Blake, you have some info?

00:31:54.000 79% for us to win Montana Senate.

00:31:56.000 So good odds.

00:31:57.000 Good odds.

00:31:59.000 I'm on polymarket.com, which people should check out.

00:32:01.000 It's where all the people are, the degenerate people are doing all their gambling on politics.

00:32:07.000 They also show 2024 election.

00:32:09.000 Kamala 50, Trump 49.

00:32:11.000 Closest election we've seen in ages.

00:32:15.000 Here's the page I'm looking at.

00:32:17.000 I'll send that to you.

00:32:18.000 And it's basically entirely because of Pennsylvania.

00:32:21.000 They have Pennsylvania 50-50.

00:32:23.000 Where are the states?

00:32:25.000 Yeah, they have state-level markets.

00:32:26.000 There's a million different things people can gamble on.

00:32:30.000 84% for us to win Florida, that's a good one.

00:32:32.000 They have Arizona at 63%.

00:32:34.000 Yep, exactly.

00:32:35.000 I'll take that.

00:32:36.000 But even like Virginia, 12% chance Republicans get it.

00:32:40.000 This is people willing to put money where their mouth is.

00:32:45.000 Yeah, I find PolyMarket to be a little bit more accurate than PredictIt.

00:32:49.000 PredictIt is a foreign New Zealand thing. 1.00

00:32:52.000 And the big thing with PredictIt is because of the structure that it had to be allowed to operate when the government was kind of saying you're not allowed to do this.

00:33:01.000 Basically, they capped the size of the markets, and they're not as liquid as they could be.

00:33:06.000 So the reason PolyMarket is good for us watching it is it's highly liquid, and it can react very quickly to any news swings.

00:33:14.000 That's good to know.

00:33:14.000 I didn't know that.

00:33:15.000 PredictIt sort of incentivizes you to buy and hold, and the way they take fees and all of that.

00:33:21.000 It's very hard for things, especially on the extreme ends of markets, or when it's moving really quickly, for PredictIt to fully keep up with it.

00:33:29.000 Got it.

00:33:29.000 So the, uh, and poly market, it's essentially tied.

00:33:32.000 Yes.

00:33:33.000 And, and, and so the Senate race, just everyone understands what's Charlie, why I go to Montana and all this.

00:33:38.000 If Tim she, he wins, we win the Senate. 0.91

00:33:40.000 It's over.

00:33:41.000 Even if Kamala Harris becomes president, it's a 51 49. 0.82

00:33:44.000 Exactly.

00:33:45.000 Which is huge.

00:33:46.000 Everybody.

00:33:47.000 So we're spending all day on Monday.

00:33:49.000 It's our only trip to Montana.

00:33:51.000 We did one over the summer, but this is in cycle more in cycle than summer.

00:33:54.000 Assuming we don't screw up any of the races that we should be winning.

00:33:57.000 Yeah, like Rick Scott.

00:33:58.000 He should he should win Ted Cruz should win.

00:34:01.000 He's looking fine.

00:34:02.000 I'm just hoping.

00:34:03.000 Well, hopefully what's what's great is it's kind of like in twenty eighteen where Democrats

00:34:07.000 love the idea of flipping Texas.

00:34:09.000 So it's sort of their version of, you know, some type like every cycle there will be this

00:34:13.000 like no hope Republican who's running in like a big blue city and they'll go like viral

00:34:20.000 and get all these donations and you're like, well, they're not going to win, but they'll

00:34:23.000 get money.

00:34:24.000 Same thing here.

00:34:25.000 They love to throw money at the idea of flipping Texas because it's Texas.

00:34:29.000 It's you know, the Lone Star State.

00:34:31.000 It'd be like us flipping California.

00:34:32.000 Exactly.

00:34:33.000 And so they just love throwing money at it.

00:34:34.000 And then, you know, they did this to Wendy Davis.

00:34:37.000 They did this with Beto O'Rourke.

00:34:41.000 And I don't even know who's running this time, but it'll be great if they could just throw

00:34:43.000 Colin Allred, who's probably the best of the three.

00:34:45.000 It'd be great if they could just throw him like $50 million and he loses anyway.

00:34:48.000 Oh, they are.

00:34:48.000 They're spending $180 million on this.

00:34:51.000 That is so much money.

00:34:53.000 Isn't that insane?

00:34:54.000 And that's just one Senate race in Texas.

00:34:57.000 Anyway, that's a number I saw somewhere.

00:34:58.000 So yes, and then also Carrie Lake in Arizona, very important.

00:35:01.000 Bernie Moreno showing signs of strength in Ohio.

00:35:04.000 We're favored in that one, narrowly.

00:35:05.000 They have that as 51.49.

00:35:06.000 That would get us to 52.48.

00:35:08.000 That would be very good, especially because, you know, looking ahead.

00:35:13.000 Two years from now is a relatively tough map for us, so you want some give on that one.

00:35:17.000 Yeah, and presidential years sometimes can have.

00:35:19.000 And then McCormick might be able to pull something off with Casey in Pennsylvania.

00:35:22.000 Maybe, maybe, maybe.

00:35:24.000 Then also there is Rogers in Michigan, who's very close with Slotkin.

00:35:29.000 You have Hovda in Wisconsin.

00:35:31.000 You've got Sam Brown, who's probably pulling the worst of the group in Nevada with Jackie Rosen.

00:35:37.000 So, we got a lot of gains to make there.

00:35:39.000 So, Monday, make a plan to see us in Missoula, Montana, to help win the Senate.

00:35:45.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:35:46.000 Email us, as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

The Charlie Kirk Show - September 27, 2024

JD Vance's Winning Debate Strategy ft. Rep. Byron Donalds

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