The Charlie Kirk Show - JD Vance: The People’s Pick For VP?

00:00:00.000 Hey, everybody.

00:00:00.000 Today on The Charlie Kirk Show, we have Senator J.D.

00:00:02.000 Vance, who is my pick, and some people in the audience here's pick for VPs.

00:00:05.000 I see that applause.

00:00:08.000 He is terrific and really sharp.

00:00:11.000 He joins the program, and he talks about the news of the day and a lot more and debate prep.

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00:01:18.000 Joining us now is Senator J.D.

00:01:20.000 Vance from the great state of Ohio, also the winner of the Turning Point Action Straw Poll from the People's Convention.

00:01:30.000 Senator, I haven't heard your comments on that.

00:01:32.000 You're the winner of our straw poll.

00:01:33.000 Do you have any reaction to that?

00:01:36.000 Well, obviously it was fun to be there and was excited to get the endorsement of the crowd.

00:01:43.000 But obviously it's one guy's decision, and that's Donald Trump's.

00:01:46.000 But I certainly was honored and thrilled that so many people were supportive.

00:01:49.000 I don't know, man.

00:01:51.000 You get out there, you do this, and what you try to do is make a difference, right?

00:01:53.000 And when people respond well to it, It's always gratifying.

00:01:57.000 I think most importantly, as you know, is a lot of people there.

00:02:00.000 I mean, my understanding, Charlie, is about two-thirds of the people there are Michigan residents who are doing a lot of doorknocking, a lot of volunteer get-out-the-boat stuff.

00:02:08.000 And that's really what we need, man.

00:02:10.000 The Democrats have been creaming us on this stuff for so long.

00:02:13.000 And we have, I think, an RNC leadership that is now finally aligned with doing the things that need to happen.

00:02:19.000 But having organizations like yours out there is really, really powerful.

00:02:23.000 I mean, you know, Michigan could be the determining factor for whether Donald Trump is reelected president.

00:02:29.000 And Michigan could be decided by a couple thousand votes.

00:02:32.000 And there's a little bit too much of a sort of, you know, slapping ourselves on the back and the polls look really good.

00:02:37.000 And they do look really good.

00:02:39.000 But things could tighten.

00:02:40.000 We could be in a different position come November.

00:02:42.000 And we have to work for every single vote.

00:02:45.000 So it's good to see people fired up to do that in Michigan.

00:02:47.000 And I think it says something, JD, that Michiganders voted for an Ohioan.

00:02:53.000 It's there, Lee.

00:02:54.000 I think that really is something.

00:02:57.000 You know, not a lot of distinctions matter in America, but the Ohio-Michigan distinction matters.

00:03:03.000 You know, all this racial stuff is a bunch of nonsense. 1.00

00:03:05.000 Black-white distinction means nothing to me. 0.77

00:03:07.000 The Ohio-Michigan distinction always makes me chuckle.

00:03:10.000 Looking ahead here, JD, you have great wisdom to share here about the Donald Trump-Biden debate.

00:03:16.000 It is coming up on June 27th.

00:03:22.000 Look, I think it's probably pretty accurate, right?

00:03:24.000 I mean, we can expect that there's going to be some liberal bias.

00:03:26.000 at the presidential debate.

00:03:28.000 What is your reaction about this or at least your thoughts about this upcoming debate?

00:03:31.000 Look, I think it's probably pretty accurate, right?

00:03:33.000 I mean, we can expect that there's going to be some liberal bias.

00:03:36.000 The question to me is how much and maybe it is it is right that they knock it out of the

00:03:40.000 park and they give us a fair debate.

00:03:42.000 But I think we have to be really careful here, Charlie.

00:03:44.000 I'm actually a little bit worried at how much people are overstating Donald Trump's chances of sort of winning this thing.

00:03:52.000 I mean, look, Trump is a better debater, sure.

00:03:54.000 He certainly has better ideas.

00:03:56.000 He's able to communicate them much more effectively.

00:03:58.000 But we also have to realize the deck is fundamentally stacked against Trump in a very profound way for this debate, right?

00:04:05.000 So you asked me, like, what's one of the most fundamental aspects of being president, Charlie, is leading people, right?

00:04:11.000 You have to actually get people sort of fired up and inspired and ready to follow you.

00:04:15.000 The debate has no audience, right?

00:04:17.000 There's no interaction.

00:04:19.000 And we know that Trump is much better at interacting with people than Biden.

00:04:22.000 So that's a huge advantage to Biden that there's no, there's no audience.

00:04:27.000 Okay.

00:04:28.000 Second thing, we know Trump has much more energy than Joe Biden, but yet, as I understand it, the Biden folks are working to try to make sure that they can be seated for the 90 minutes of the debate.

00:04:38.000 So it takes away one of Trump's huge advantages that he has more energy, that he's a more imposing figure physically, and they're trying to neutralize that advantage.

00:04:47.000 Then you talk about the moderators, I think all of whom we would admit even I think they would admit that they are biased, at least politically towards Donald or towards Joe Biden.

00:04:57.000 Hopefully that bias doesn't come out during the debate.

00:04:59.000 And finally, Charlie, we have no idea what kind of medication they're going to give to They can't drug test the guy before the debate.

00:05:07.000 And so they may very well be able to get the 90 best minutes that Joe Biden has and the media will say, Oh, Republicans said he was going to be terrible.

00:05:16.000 And all of a sudden he was really good.

00:05:18.000 You layer that on top of the biased format against Trump.

00:05:21.000 And I just think Republicans were taking a victory lap on this.

00:05:24.000 Yes, we've got the better candidate and we've got the way better guy, but we need to be careful here about setting expectations in a way that no one can beat them.

00:05:32.000 Yeah, and I agree.

00:05:34.000 I have a theory also that I want to run against Joe Biden.

00:05:38.000 I'd rather run against Joe Biden than Gretchen Whitmer. 0.84

00:05:41.000 That's my personal opinion.

00:05:43.000 And so I hope Trump, if he wins, it's not too much of a clobbering.

00:05:47.000 So I'm torn on it.

00:05:49.000 I think there's something to be said, though, about Trump being the populist nationalist that he is, going into these adversarial environments, showing Trump's combative spirit.

00:06:01.000 And yeah, it's a 95% chance that they're going to be hostile.

00:06:04.000 Let's go fight.

00:06:05.000 And I think that's the reason why so many people like him and appreciate him.

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00:07:15.000 You've dealt with CNN quite a lot, Senator.

00:07:18.000 You've spent a lot of time going on CNN.

00:07:20.000 If you were to give Donald Trump any debate prep or advice—I know that's a big ask—what would that be?

00:07:28.000 I could share you what I would do after you respond, but what advice, if any, would you give?

00:07:32.000 He is the best debater alive, I agree.

00:07:36.000 What would you say, as far from a perspective of how he approaches it or handles it?

00:07:40.000 Yeah, Charlie.

00:07:41.000 So look, it's always dangerous to give Trump advice because he came from the outside and won his first race, which was to run for president.

00:07:48.000 So he obviously knows what he's doing.

00:07:50.000 I mean, look, Charlie, I, and you probably agree with this.

00:07:54.000 When you get to know Trump, the thing that is kind of shocking compared to the media narrative of Trump is just how like fundamentally decent and nice of a human being he is, right?

00:08:05.000 There's like a hard, Right.

00:08:07.000 He's sort of smart.

00:08:08.000 He knows public policy.

00:08:09.000 Like, there's a heart there that I think that the Trump campaign has to really work hard to make sure that pierces through.

00:08:16.000 I agree.

00:08:17.000 Like, he loves kids, right?

00:08:18.000 He loves families.

00:08:20.000 He just likes people.

00:08:22.000 And I think if we can get that to sort of shine through, then that's going to help him more than any particular policy debating point.

00:08:30.000 We just have to make sure that shines through.

00:08:31.000 And I think talking about the people he's met on the campaign trail, I mean, you may remember this, Charlie, but when we had this terrible train accident in East Palestine, Ohio, and Trump shows up completely out of the blue, has bottled water, but just interacting with people on the ground, It sort of hit me that this is a part of Trump that no one really ever sees, and the media hides for obvious reasons.

00:08:58.000 I reached out to some of the Trump campaign people afterwards, and I said, guys, you know what you're doing.

00:09:04.000 Take this advice for what it's worth, but you've got to showcase the president in this kind of environment more often.

00:09:11.000 I'm so glad you brought up East Palestine.

00:09:12.000 I want to isolate that.

00:09:13.000 fact that there's no audience there is you don't get that interplay.

00:09:16.000 But I do think that Trump can show his heart in the debate, even despite that.

00:09:20.000 And if he does, it'll be very effective.

00:09:22.000 It'll resonate a lot.

00:09:23.000 I'm so glad you brought up East Palestine.

00:09:25.000 I want to isolate that.

00:09:26.000 I have a theory, JD, that that was the turning point of his primary race and

00:09:32.000 really was a launching point.

00:09:34.000 JD, can you speak about that moment in more detail?

00:09:36.000 Because that was really a launching off point.

00:09:38.000 Isn't that what they say it is?

00:09:39.000 And you know, you did a great job.

00:09:40.000 And I think your popularity soared after that.

00:09:42.000 Sherrod Brown was nowhere to be found.

00:09:43.000 But you were all over that.

00:09:44.000 And then Donald Trump visiting and then going to the local fast food restaurant.

00:09:49.000 JD, can you speak about that moment in more detail?

00:09:52.000 Because that was really a launching off point.

00:09:54.000 The East Palestine Trump is the Trump I want to see at the debate. 0.88

00:09:58.000 Not the Trump that interrupted Biden in the first debate in 2020.

00:10:01.000 And I think he's internalized that.

00:10:03.000 I think that.

00:10:04.000 If you remember that, it was like, wow, Mitt Romney won the debate.

00:10:06.000 It's out of control.

00:10:07.000 to even remember that. And also, incumbent presidents tend to not do well in their first

00:10:12.000 debate. Remember Obama did poorly against Mitt Romney back in 2012. If you remember

00:10:17.000 that, it was like, wow, Mitt Romney won the debate. It's out of control. Senator Vance,

00:10:22.000 your thoughts? Yeah, I do remember that actually.

00:10:24.000 That's a very good point.

00:10:25.000 I mean, that was Mitt Romney's sort of very good debate against Obama.

00:10:28.000 You know, just a point on East Palestine.

00:10:32.000 So just to recap very briefly, I mean, he shows up, we go and sit down with the mayor, with some of the local firefighters, with the local congressmen.

00:10:41.000 And again, he's just asking, like, how are things going?

00:10:44.000 What can I do?

00:10:44.000 How can I help?

00:10:46.000 And again, there is this connection that I think Trump feels to just normal Americans, right, from all walks of life, rich, poor, working class, not, whether they work in a factory, they work, like, if you're a normal person, right, Trump just sort of gravitates towards you.

00:11:01.000 And I think this is like, you know, one of his sort of very secretive superpowers in politics is that people pick

00:11:08.000 up on others who like them or others who don't like them.

00:11:12.000 And I think a lot of Republicans, let's be honest here, they

00:11:16.000 don't like their own voters, right?

00:11:17.000 There's this weird thing where like, eh, I don't know that I like them.

00:11:20.000 Maybe they, maybe they think things or behave a certain way that

00:11:23.000 we don't totally agree with.

00:11:25.000 And Democrats have a ton of people who, you know, they frankly maybe should be ashamed of, but they just don't.

00:11:33.000 They're not, right?

00:11:34.000 They never have this sense of, oh, well, you know, yeah, a lot of illegal aliens maybe are more pro-Democrat than Republicans.

00:11:43.000 You never hear them act ashamed about this.

00:11:45.000 And yet American citizens who really love Donald Trump, a lot of Republicans Don't act like they actually care about their own voters.

00:11:55.000 And that's just not, the Trump you saw in East Palestine is so genuine because that emotional connection was very real.

00:12:02.000 And he goes into McDonald's and he's like joking around with the staff there.

00:12:07.000 He's like, hey, I probably know this menu better than you do.

00:12:09.000 And honestly, he might know the menu better than they do because the guy like really likes McDonald's.

00:12:14.000 He has this whole sort of theory about how food safety there is better because, you know, they're sort of so good at producing it.

00:12:21.000 I mean, he just is who he is.

00:12:23.000 And yeah, he's a successful guy and he's a billionaire and all that, but you wouldn't know it seeing him interact with people because he's just good at it.

00:12:31.000 And that's the part of Trump that I think the campaign has to showcase.

00:12:34.000 I agree.

00:12:35.000 The East Palestine Trump we have to showcase. 0.89

00:12:37.000 I think they've been doing a good job of that.

00:12:38.000 I think that Susie and James Blair and the team there, they've been doing a really good job of that, just generally and broadly.

00:12:46.000 Yeah, so I want to now talk about the Rust Belt here, Senator, which ties into what we're talking about Trump.

00:12:51.000 If Donald Trump is able to win one of the blue wall states, the industrial belt, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, and he's able to flip Georgia, Arizona, which we're working our tail off in Arizona, I'll tell you what, but Arizona, Georgia are by far structurally easier than the blue wall.

00:13:06.000 We have more registered Republicans than Democrats.

00:13:08.000 are course correct. Georgia and Arizona are primed to do better. The blue wall is the open question.

00:13:16.000 And so as someone who has been popularly elected, and you are very popular in Ohio,

00:13:21.000 what is the game plan for us to do better in western Pennsylvania, do better in southern Michigan?

00:13:27.000 You know, I spoke to a reporter who you would know, and she was like, oh, well, I was talking about how I think you should be the vice president.

00:13:35.000 And she said, well, I mean, doesn't Trump have the Rust Belt on lock?

00:13:38.000 I said, well, not so much.

00:13:40.000 I said, seemingly he's very popular, but if we don't win one of those states, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, then we're going to be on the outside looking in.

00:13:49.000 Take us through in some detail, Senator, from a policy perspective, and then from a political perspective, what you've learned being a Senator in the last couple of years, and what Donald Trump can present to this part of the world to be successful.

00:14:00.000 Yeah, Charlie, you're right.

00:14:01.000 If you look at the polling, we're doing much better in the Sun Belt than we are in the industrial Midwest.

00:14:05.000 And those industrial Midwest states, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan, have a ton of electoral votes.

00:14:11.000 And it's very important.

00:14:12.000 So I agree with the premise here.

00:14:14.000 But I think we have to recognize that these are like different states fundamentally.

00:14:18.000 And obviously, my Ohio is sort of part of those.

00:14:20.000 I don't think Ohio is at any risk of going blue in 2024.

00:14:24.000 But number one is, these are areas that were the absolute heart of the American economy 40 or 50 years ago.

00:14:30.000 And then this bipartisan consensus came along and said, well, hey, let's ship our entire industrial base off to China, off to East Asia, off to Mexico.

00:14:39.000 These workers in places like Wisconsin and Michigan suffered the most.

00:14:44.000 And there's this real sense like a loss of pride, a loss of purpose, like knowing that you grew up in a community that used to make things and now it's like most of the stores downtown have closed down and there's a lot of fentanyl coming in across the southern border and that's killing your neighbors and killing your neighbor's kids.

00:15:03.000 Just this sense of loss. 0.99

00:15:06.000 community and stupid leadership took it away from you. 1.00

00:15:10.000 I think Trump is better able to tap into that than anybody, but we've actually 1.00

00:15:13.000 got to go and do it and get the message out there, right?

00:15:16.000 Sort of, uh, you, you've got to deliver that message.

00:15:18.000 You've got to go and sell that argument.

00:15:20.000 You've got to go out there and, you know, put boots on the ground and knock on doors

00:15:24.000 and make sure people get to the polls.

00:15:25.000 Uh, but I, I think that's the most important thing is that, that, that Trump

00:15:29.000 make America great again.

00:15:31.000 We have to stop losing to China. 0.86

00:15:33.000 We have to stop losing to Mexico. 0.99

00:15:35.000 That message is extraordinarily powerful in the industrial Midwest.

00:15:39.000 It works everywhere, but it's especially powerful in the industrial Midwest.

00:15:43.000 Second thing, Charlie, is if you look at, you know, the border thing is a huge problem nationwide.

00:15:49.000 Every state is a border state.

00:15:51.000 But if you look at the problems with the border in Arizona, and Ohio, Michigan, Pennsylvania, they're different, right?

00:15:58.000 So here's how the border issue manifests itself.

00:16:00.000 Here's how Joe Biden's open border looks to the people of the industrial Midwest.

00:16:05.000 Number one, a lot of the neighbors are dying of drug overdoses.

00:16:08.000 Okay, stop the drug cartel shipping this poison to my community.

00:16:13.000 Number two, Charlie, hospital wait times are really high in rural hospitals that are already really overstressed.

00:16:20.000 But then you add thousands of illegal immigrants into some of these states, hundreds of thousands into the country every single month.

00:16:28.000 And that puts huge stress on local services, especially in rural areas where they're already under a huge amount of stress.

00:16:34.000 So I hear a lot from grandmas who are raising grandkids and they're like, you know, my kid got a broken arm on the playground.

00:16:41.000 I took him to the emergency room and we had to wait four hours because there were a bunch of illegal aliens there in front of us in line. 1.00

00:16:47.000 So it just, it's a different issue.

00:16:49.000 It's a problem, but the way that it looks, I think the way we talk about the border has to be a little bit different in industrial Midwest.

00:16:57.000 I think that's right, and it becomes very personal, and also there's really no nonsense spin.

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00:18:05.000 I think Joe Biden was able to do slightly better in 2020 because he had this kind of Scranton Joe roots.

00:18:13.000 Do you sense that that has really deteriorated for Joe Biden, and that in that region of the world, white working class voters no longer think fondly of Joe Biden, where previously there might have been some good vibes for Joe?

00:18:26.000 Yeah, well, I think he had his chance, Charlie.

00:18:28.000 And he did run, in a lot of ways, he ran on Trump's themes in 2020.

00:18:31.000 So he was sort of explicitly- That's correct.

00:18:34.000 That's right.

00:18:35.000 Trump's 2016 arguments and applying them in 2020.

00:18:39.000 So it's not surprising he was able to attract some of those voters.

00:18:42.000 But look, What's he actually done with it, Charlie?

00:18:44.000 The main thing that Joe Biden has done when it comes to manufacturing policy in this country is he's destroyed American energy.

00:18:52.000 He's radically reduced the amount of energy that we could produce relative to what we need.

00:18:57.000 And the second thing he's done, Charlie, is he's put hundreds of billions of dollars into green energy boondoggles that benefit Chinese manufacturers and the Chinese middle class. 0.56

00:19:08.000 But don't do a whole lot for the American middle class.

00:19:11.000 So why are we building the Chinese green economy off the backs of auto workers in Michigan and Pennsylvania and Ohio? 0.89

00:19:19.000 It doesn't make any sense.

00:19:20.000 And I think a lot of people are very pissed off about it.

00:19:22.000 They recognize that most electric vehicles, most components for electric vehicles are made in China.

00:19:28.000 They recognize that we send hundreds of billions of dollars to companies that are manufacturing in China.

00:19:33.000 That doesn't benefit the auto workers of Michigan.

00:19:36.000 It actually harms them because it means that there are going to be less jobs making traditional gas-powered American cars.

00:19:42.000 So I think that the Biden record has destroyed whatever credibility he has with those voters.

00:19:48.000 We just have to hammer that message.

00:19:50.000 So there's new polling that shows, Senator, and I want to get your thoughts on this, that Donald Trump is doing better with Black voters, doing better with Hispanics, doing better with younger voters, which we've been working on very hard.

00:20:01.000 But the Wall Street Journal says, boomers for Biden.

00:20:03.000 That baby boomers are increasingly going towards Joe Biden.

00:20:07.000 Now, to be clear, it's still a battleground demographic.

00:20:10.000 However, it is eroding a structural advantage that Donald Trump would have enjoyed in previous elections.

00:20:16.000 This is not a group similar to any other.

00:20:19.000 They vote in very high numbers.

00:20:21.000 They have incredibly high turnout.

00:20:23.000 And in fact, Joe Biden is doing five points better with baby boomers than in 2020 with Donald Trump.

00:20:30.000 I don't think that is going to remain.

00:20:32.000 I actually think that boomers are going to come home and are going to reject Joe Biden.

00:20:38.000 But help me make sense of this, Senator.

00:20:40.000 Why is it that younger voters, ages 23, 24 years old, are increasingly going right wing and are saying that we want the rebel Donald Trump, but 70-year-old voters want Joe Biden?

00:20:53.000 What's that all about?

00:20:54.000 Yeah, it's really interesting, Charlie.

00:20:55.000 I'm not sure I fully understand it.

00:20:57.000 I'm also not sure I fully buy the polling, right?

00:20:59.000 So if you look at this stuff, the most difficult group of people to poll are MAGA voters in the industrial Midwest.

00:21:07.000 They don't pick up the phone when a pollster calls.

00:21:09.000 Obviously, there's a lot of baby boomers in that demographic. 0.99

00:21:13.000 And, you know, I do wonder how much of that is a polling artifact where the pollsters just aren't good at reaching those voters.

00:21:19.000 And so they have a distorted view.

00:21:21.000 I think the other thing that's going on though, Charlie, is look, Biden has been really effective at messaging on this idea that Republicans want to steal away your social security and your Medicare.

00:21:33.000 And unfortunately, you know, you do have some Republicans who frankly make that message easier.

00:21:37.000 The problem is Trump actually makes that message harder.

00:21:40.000 And I think we can go to a lot of these voters and say, look, you know what's going to destroy social security?

00:21:45.000 Allowing fraudulent, illegal immigrant claimants on your social security. 1.00

00:21:48.000 You know what's going to destroy social security?

00:21:50.000 20 million people here that we have to support on the public dole who shouldn't be in this country to begin with. 1.00

00:21:55.000 So my guess is Biden has been a little bit effective at scaring people, and we can correct that.

00:22:02.000 But it's also the polling doesn't quite make sense for that demographics.

00:22:05.000 A lot of them don't like to answer phone calls from strange pollsters.

00:22:09.000 I think there's a lot of truth to that.

00:22:11.000 And younger voters, your campaign, JD, was about a return to a normal American way of life.

00:22:18.000 One where you own property, have children, get married.

00:22:22.000 Younger voters increasingly are not able to do those three things.

00:22:26.000 What can we as a Republican Party do from a policy perspective to try and make it easier so that younger voters can own homes, that they can get married and have children?

00:22:38.000 I'm not suggesting that we need to outlaw this, but I do think this is a concern of mine.

00:22:43.000 One fourth of all home purchases I totally agree with that. 0.79

00:22:46.000 this year were done by investors.

00:22:49.000 I don't think that is good for the country.

00:22:51.000 I don't think that buy it, flip it, and rent it back to a 26-year-old

00:22:56.000 is the best version of free market capitalism.

00:22:58.000 Senator Vance, what are your thoughts?

00:23:00.000 Oh, Charlie, I totally agree with that.

00:23:02.000 I mean, look, why do we allow 80 foreign investors to put money in the institutional investment funds

00:23:08.000 Yes.

00:23:08.000 whether it's our farms or our single family homes, I would say we should just outright ban this stuff.

00:23:13.000 You can't let foreign investors purchase up a piece of America 0.98

00:23:18.000 when a lot of young Americans can't do that thing.

00:23:21.000 I mean, look, I think a lot of, when I talk to older Americans,

00:23:24.000 a lot of them are very concerned about how radical the politics are

00:23:27.000 of the younger generation.

00:23:29.000 And it's not radical in sort of the traditional ways.

00:23:32.000 In some ways, they're becoming more right-wing.

00:23:34.000 In other ways, of course, they're becoming more left-wing.

00:23:37.000 But I think it's very much a symptom of the fact that our public policy

00:23:42.000 has made it harder for young people to build families and form a life

00:23:47.000 and actually have some basic stability.

00:23:49.000 I mean, 40, 50 years ago, most people could actually support a family of four or five people on a single middle class income, right?

00:23:57.000 That promotes family stability, that promotes family formation, and not, unfortunately, the situation that we have today.

00:24:04.000 But housing costs, I mean, I hear all the time from young constituents of mine.

00:24:09.000 I have one in particular who's a realtor, and her dream is that she likes to get young families into their first home, into their starter home.

00:24:17.000 And she talks all the time about how you have a young couple, maybe the wife is pregnant, maybe they're thinking about having a baby, they're just about to get married, whatever station they're in.

00:24:26.000 a young couple looking to buy a house, and they put in an offer and it's 2% above asking and then

00:24:32.000 somebody comes in, very often, a foreign backed institutional investor and bids 10 or 15% above

00:24:38.000 asking. So we have a young generation that's becoming more open to left wing economics,

00:24:45.000 because I think that they're not actually benefiting from what's going on in the incredible bounty that we have in

00:24:50.000 our country.

00:24:51.000 And I think we just have to say, like, look, Housing affordability, not letting foreign investors buy up our farmland and our single family homes, getting real about family policy.

00:25:01.000 I mean, you know, in other countries, young people who get married and have kids, they just pay way less in taxes than they would have otherwise paid, right?

00:25:11.000 Because we want to promote family formation.

00:25:13.000 Maybe we should be talking about doing that stuff.

00:25:15.000 In the United States of America, a true pro-family policy combined with lower housing costs and of course, combined with getting illegal aliens out of our country that are poisoning our streets. 0.98

00:25:26.000 I think that goes a long way to making family formation more possible.

00:25:30.000 And I think if young people think there's a pathway for that, they're going to be more willing to vote for the party that's promoting that pathway and has a real plan.

00:25:38.000 I mean, I completely agree.

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00:26:45.000 Think about how demoralizing it must be.

00:26:47.000 You're trying to buy a home, you're almost there, and some Chinese investor comes in and scoops it up. 0.87

00:26:52.000 No, I think that must be outlawed.

00:26:55.000 There should be no place for that in American society.

00:26:57.000 Yeah.

00:26:58.000 And Charlie, can we just talk about something else too?

00:27:00.000 I mean, something that occurred to me while I heard you make that observation, which I agree with, like, okay, so Republicans don't think that Joe Biden's student loan forgiveness plan is a good idea.

00:27:10.000 I'm certainly among them.

00:27:11.000 I think it's ridiculous to have plumbers and electricians Pay for the student loans of people they don't even know.

00:27:18.000 Okay?

00:27:19.000 I think it's fundamentally unfair.

00:27:20.000 Well, let's ask ourselves.

00:27:21.000 There are a lot of Americans who were sold the bill of goods on college.

00:27:26.000 They were told that it was the only pathway to a middle class life.

00:27:29.000 Some of them graduated.

00:27:30.000 Some of them didn't.

00:27:31.000 They have tens of thousands, sometimes hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of debt.

00:27:35.000 Now, again, I don't think that the average American citizen should pay for it, but maybe the universities should.

00:27:41.000 Maybe we should expect the colleges to pick up some of the bill that they put on the backs of young Americans.

00:27:48.000 I've talked to Charlie about taxing endowments and having some of that money go to student debt relief or making the student debt dischargeable in bankruptcy so that these kids don't have their entire life ruined.

00:27:59.000 And the colleges have to pick up the tab.

00:28:01.000 I think it's basic fairness here that we ought to ask the colleges to foot more of the bill, not the ordinary American citizen.

00:28:09.000 Seize the endowments.

00:28:11.000 I think that is a very good idea.

00:28:13.000 We talk about that in my book, actually, Right Wing Revolution.

00:28:15.000 Senator, I know you have to go in just a second here.

00:28:18.000 The final question I want your comment on is that polling shows this election is unlike any other.

00:28:25.000 Where when you and I were growing up in the conservative movement, it was always the case that if there was higher turnout, it would benefit Democrats.

00:28:33.000 That lower propensity voters would be in the Democrat favor.

00:28:37.000 That was the case in 2004, 2008, 2012.

00:28:40.000 2016, it was 50-50.

00:28:42.000 In 2020, we weren't actually sure, but it was slightly favor Biden in that regard.

00:28:48.000 2024, and Democrats are even joking now.

00:28:51.000 Well, I hope turnout's not too high.

00:28:53.000 Hope turnout's not too high.

00:28:54.000 This is the low propensity election.

00:28:57.000 I'm afraid we do not have the apparatus to actually be able to capitalize on the low propensity voter advantage that we might actually be able to enjoy this cycle.

00:29:07.000 Your thoughts on how this happened and how we can Maximize the harvest of the low propensity opportunity.

00:29:14.000 Charlie, this is such a smart and important point and just an observation on what happened here.

00:29:20.000 I think it's the Republican Party became a more working class party.

00:29:24.000 We frankly have become a more normal party, right?

00:29:26.000 Normal people, people who aren't weirdos.

00:29:31.000 We've got to get the normal people to the polls, the people who don't think about who they're going to vote for until the week or two before the election.

00:29:45.000 That's really, really important and compelling and powerful.

00:29:48.000 And the question of how we do that, Charlie, I mean, obviously what you guys, what Turning Point Action and others is doing is really important.

00:29:55.000 I do think we have leadership at the RNC that is very focused on this issue, but we saw this in our own polling in my race in 2002.

00:30:03.000 We sort of said, look, if we get the Trump 2020 electorate in the state of Ohio, we don't have to worry about the election at all.

00:30:10.000 If we get the sort of, you know, off cycle midterm year where not as many people vote, then we might be in trouble.

00:30:19.000 And we were able to sort of land somewhere in the middle and we won comfortably.

00:30:24.000 Which is amazing because not every state, sorry to interrupt, not every state was able to get in the middle.

00:30:28.000 Like that's amazing that you guys were able to do it.

00:30:30.000 That's right.

00:30:31.000 Ohio did very well.

00:30:32.000 North Carolina were the two states where we did really well as Republicans.

00:30:35.000 But this is really important, Charlie, and we've got to get those marginal voters out there.

00:30:40.000 And I hate to say it, but here's the basic apparatus the Dems have is they track every single ballot.

00:30:47.000 They know whether people are likely to vote for them or not.

00:30:50.000 And for the people who are likely to vote for them, they really aggressively go and try to get those people to the polls here.

00:30:56.000 We have to do that.

00:30:58.000 We have to make sure we're doing the exact same thing.

00:31:00.000 And again, the infrastructure is better now than it was, but there's still a lot of work to do.

00:31:04.000 Senator, I know you have to go.

00:31:05.000 Thank you for your great leadership.

00:31:06.000 God bless you.

00:31:07.000 Talk to you soon.

00:31:08.000 Take care.

00:31:08.000 Thanks, man.

The Charlie Kirk Show - June 25, 2024

JD Vance: The People’s Pick For VP?

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