The Charlie Kirk Show - July 11, 2023


Jim Caviezel Vs Hollywood


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Jim Caviezel joins Charlie Kirk on The Charlie Kirk Show to talk about his new film, Sound of Freedom, and why he doesn t want to show up to the Turning Point Action Conference this weekend. He also talks about his faith and how it played a role in his decision to become an actor.

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00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, today's the Charlie Kirk Show.
00:00:01.000 Wow, what a conversation with Jim Caviesel from Sound of Freedom.
00:00:07.000 It's very powerful.
00:00:08.000 Text this episode to your friends, talk about child sex trafficking, all sorts of different things.
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00:00:42.000 The second part of this episode, I talk about somebody who does not want to show up to our event this weekend at the Turning Point Action Conference, tpaction.com, tpaction.com.
00:00:51.000 Jim Caviezel is our lead.
00:00:52.000 Buckle up, everybody.
00:00:53.000 Here we go.
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00:01:36.000 Joining us now is Jim Caviesel, who is really going viral in a lot of different ways with the incredibly important, powerful film Sound of Freedom.
00:01:47.000 Jim, thank you so much for making time to join the program.
00:01:50.000 Great to be here, Charlie. 0.99
00:01:52.000 And I'm grateful to you for all the tremendous work you've done and really living your faith out because we're at a point here where if the Christians don't stand up, our republic is finished. 1.00
00:02:09.000 I totally agree. 0.99
00:02:11.000 And so, first, talk about your personal faith and how that played a role in your decision to want to do this film.
00:02:20.000 Well, look, it's I never talked about this for a long time publicly, but at this point, I think the gloves have to come off.
00:02:31.000 I was in a movie theater when I was probably 19 years old.
00:02:36.000 I'm probably 14, where I reached a point where I really considered, you know, taking my own life.
00:02:46.000 And I was running on a frontage road barefoot.
00:02:50.000 And I ran about eight miles and my feet were all cut up.
00:02:54.000 I remember just so angry in my heart.
00:02:58.000 It was like, you can't hurt me, kind of a thing.
00:03:00.000 And I just cried out to God to help me, you know.
00:03:04.000 And I was in a movie theater and that loving God came to me and I felt like I was the only child this God had.
00:03:18.000 And if I had done that, it would have been a sad moment because our Lord would have probably showed me what he had for me and that I was going to play his son.
00:03:30.000 So I was, and I tell that to people, especially now, because the kids are, you know, it's like five times worse of suicides now of young people.
00:03:39.000 It's nothing.
00:03:40.000 We've given them nothing, no God in schools, nothing.
00:03:43.000 But I'm not talking about, I'm talking about a Christian God, Jesus God.
00:03:48.000 And there's nowhere them to find it.
00:03:50.000 And so long story short, he asked me to become an actor.
00:03:57.000 And I'd asked for, I was given a purpose.
00:04:02.000 And I thought, I don't know how to do that.
00:04:05.000 But if I didn't believe in myself, but I believed in him.
00:04:10.000 And I believe if he said I could do something, I could do it.
00:04:14.000 And so I came to the industry and it was rough, you know, 10 years, but he protected me.
00:04:21.000 And it was a hard route to take.
00:04:25.000 And it's never changed.
00:04:26.000 It's still really hard, but it's a purpose, though.
00:04:30.000 And like that book, The Purpose-Driven Life, you know, these are what the saints are, you know, people that live in a purpose.
00:04:38.000 And it's better than any money or cash or wealth, power.
00:04:46.000 That's something deep inside, a love that I've was just would die for.
00:04:56.000 And on the 33rd year of my life, the initials of JC, Mel Gibson, asked me to play Jesus in this film.
00:05:07.000 And I tell people this because it was really important because there are a lot of people in the industry that called me and told me not to do the movie.
00:05:21.000 And I read the script.
00:05:25.000 It was everything in the movie was in the Gospels.
00:05:29.000 And I began to understand that they don't like those gospels.
00:05:34.000 They don't like it.
00:05:36.000 But nonetheless, I really didn't have anywhere else to go other than to go to him because that's the only place I know.
00:05:48.000 So we did the movie.
00:05:51.000 So Jim, we share a common faith in Jesus Christ and in ultimate truth and in the promise of John 10, 10, juxtaposed of what the enemy wishes to do, lie, steal, and destroy.
00:06:05.000 And Christ comes to give life and life more abundantly.
00:06:09.000 What is it about Hollywood where they get so up in arms about the issue of child sex trafficking?
00:06:18.000 I would have thought, if I was just kind of uninitiated in this space, that Hollywood would at least be neutral on your film.
00:06:27.000 Why are they so opposed, so frantic in antagonizing sound of freedom?
00:06:35.000 What's going on here?
00:06:37.000 Well, I'll give you an example, Charlie.
00:06:41.000 We were about four and a half years ago, four years ago, we showed a movie, and this has been a five-year deal.
00:06:51.000 And they've done everything they could to stop it, as they did this with the Passion of the Christ.
00:06:59.000 About four years ago, we showed it in a theater.
00:07:02.000 There was like five viewings.
00:07:05.000 And in each viewing, they were always talking during this one part, the audience.
00:07:11.000 And I thought, maybe there's something wrong.
00:07:14.000 I'd never seen that before.
00:07:15.000 And about 1,500 people at the end, I spoke to them and I asked them, you know, what that was.
00:07:22.000 And they all yelled out, Epstein Island.
00:07:24.000 And then I said, okay, now I understand.
00:07:29.000 We're shining a light on something they don't want shined on.
00:07:34.000 And, you know, this has been around for a long, long time. 0.67
00:07:38.000 Biblically, it's been around what they did to children during the time of Moses and again during the time of Jesus. 0.72
00:07:46.000 And what we've been doing now. 0.85
00:07:50.000 27 days now, they're going to be able to kill a baby 27 days after they're born. 0.94
00:07:57.000 Why would you kill a baby? 0.91
00:07:58.000 27, why would you kill a baby anyway?
00:08:00.000 But why 27 days?
00:08:01.000 Now they always talk about the mother's uh right to choose the mother uh, in case of the mother's life's in danger.
00:08:10.000 So now think about it, baby's next to her doctor walks in, puts a sword through the child, kills it.
00:08:17.000 Does the mother become healthy because of that how? 0.97
00:08:19.000 How does that work?
00:08:21.000 Um and uh, um.
00:08:24.000 And then I I talked to Tim Ballard immensely about organ harvesting.
00:08:29.000 This is this, trafficking is just the beginning of this whole thing.
00:08:33.000 It's a, it's an eight armed octopus and if you take just trafficking out it, that arm will grow back.
00:08:42.000 You have to take the head. 0.74
00:08:44.000 And we're talking grooming, we're talking about pornography, because pornography, uh procures more pedophiles, and then you, it's a non-stop cycle.
00:08:58.000 So this is a culture that has to be reawakened and I don't know um and i've said this many times more people now are more afraid of the devil. 0.60
00:09:11.000 Christians i'm talking about Christians now more afraid of the devil than they are of God. 0.53
00:09:17.000 I look to the biblical uh Paul, Saint Paul. 1.00
00:09:24.000 I look to saint John the Baptist.
00:09:27.000 Both got their head taken off. 0.96
00:09:30.000 I, that's okay with me. 0.87
00:09:32.000 Paul says, to live as Christ, to die is gain.
00:09:36.000 Well, I know i'm going to die someday and everything that I have on this earth, the Role X watch that I have, it's not going to float up into the heavens, it's all junk up there.
00:09:52.000 I know one day i'm going to be there in front of that loving god and I, you know, i'm going to give everything I have for him.
00:09:59.000 Isn't that what we're supposed to do?
00:10:01.000 Or are we just supposed to sit back and stay on the fence?
00:10:05.000 And, as my friend says, the devil owns that fence.
00:10:09.000 We have to.
00:10:10.000 We lukewarm Christianity.
00:10:12.000 This is crazy. 0.98
00:10:13.000 That's not Christianity.
00:10:15.000 And so we're the ones that have to lead, because it has to come from the people, and it has to come from a spirit where we're fearless and when love comes in the heart to such a level that you would die for it.
00:10:30.000 But wouldn't you die for your children at least?
00:10:33.000 Maybe you wouldn't die for your republic, you wouldn't die for your country?
00:10:36.000 Okay fine, but what about your children?
00:10:38.000 Would you?
00:10:39.000 Would you just hand them over?
00:10:41.000 And so America right now, and the world?
00:10:46.000 When they see this, they're being reawakened, because the media has lied too many times, and this is the the, the strand that broke the camel's back.
00:10:57.000 That's what's.
00:10:58.000 That's what you're seeing right now.
00:11:00.000 The media is trying to smear.
00:11:02.000 You smear the film, call it Q Anon Adjacent, Seducing America all that nonsense.
00:11:07.000 That is nothing more than the enemy mobilizing unclean spirits, principalities of darkness against the light. 0.70
00:11:14.000 You are fulfilling Ephesians 5 11 have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather expose them.
00:11:21.000 Jim, can you just give us a little bit of a window from your experience and your understanding?
00:11:26.000 How widespread is child sex trafficking in Hollywood?
00:11:30.000 That one i'll talk about in the future.
00:11:34.000 That's a.
00:11:34.000 That, that one.
00:11:35.000 It's a good question.
00:11:36.000 It's there.
00:11:37.000 I'll talk about it more in the future. 0.99
00:11:40.000 My stuff came more from the agents and the guys that i've worked with and uh, screaming of children is Well, there's something in me that says that ain't going to happen on my watch because I have a father that's inside my heart, and I'll go after these bastards. 0.95
00:12:02.000 And it's okay to be that, and that's why the line's in there. 0.97
00:12:05.000 Better a millstone being hung around their necks that they be cast into the sea that they should ever hurt one of these little ones. 0.83
00:12:12.000 That's what's coming for them. 0.88
00:12:14.000 It's going to be a wrath on them.
00:12:16.000 There will be no forgiveness because this is the rejection of the Holy Spirit.
00:12:20.000 It's the only unforgivable sin.
00:12:23.000 You shall not blasphemy the Holy Spirit.
00:12:26.000 Angel.com/slash Jim is the website.
00:12:30.000 And if you want evidence that we are in a spiritual war, just look at the irrational response that the media is administering for a film that should be received with agreement, celebration, and at the very least, neutrality.
00:12:47.000 But why does the media have to send their attack dogs?
00:12:49.000 Not one outlet, by the way, Rolling Stone, Guardian, one after the other, after the other.
00:12:56.000 Really makes you wonder what the heck they're doing in their personal lives, what they're aware of, what they're defending.
00:13:04.000 If you have not seen Sound of Freedom, you need to make plans to do that.
00:13:07.000 We are screening Sound of Freedom for all attendees at the Turning Point Action Conference this weekend to try to get as much visibility around this powerful film, tpaction.com.
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00:14:00.000 Continue your thought.
00:14:02.000 I was talking about the media and they're ignoring the stories.
00:14:05.000 I'll give you a perfect example.
00:14:08.000 On April 26th, Ms. Rodas gave sworn testimony.
00:14:13.000 And I've used this many times.
00:14:16.000 85,000 children have crossed the border and disappeared.
00:14:21.000 That's sworn testimony.
00:14:24.000 That's also evidence that has been submitted.
00:14:27.000 And Tim, I talked to Tim, and he says, actually, much bigger than this.
00:14:32.000 But anyway, next day, I see, I think that's newsworthy.
00:14:36.000 And the next day in the news, nothing, absolutely nothing.
00:14:42.000 And so, but we've seen this over and over again in the media.
00:14:47.000 You said ivermectin is bad.
00:14:49.000 That's listed under the NIH.
00:14:52.000 Hydroxychloroquine is bad for us.
00:14:54.000 That's listed under the NIH.
00:14:56.000 Adrenochrome, that's not true.
00:14:58.000 It's C9H9NO3.
00:15:00.000 This is a chemical compound that is absolutely, this has been around in modern science since the 1930s.
00:15:09.000 You can actually, there's a synthetic form and there's a regular natural form, which is caused by torturing little kids to get their adrenaline up, essentially, and then extracting it from them.
00:15:28.000 When you sit and meet, and so I brought this up a few years ago, and all of a sudden I was attacked by every media.
00:15:36.000 Look it up.
00:15:37.000 It's there.
00:15:38.000 They absolutely went after me.
00:15:41.000 And the next day, I never heard from my agents, my agency for 14 months.
00:15:49.000 My lawyers let me go.
00:15:51.000 My agency never called me after that, and essentially it was done.
00:15:56.000 And so when we go and do movies like this, you spend a great deal of time with agents working with them.
00:16:04.000 I didn't realize the connection, though, to my industry and to Epstein Island and all of that.
00:16:12.000 But obviously, there is.
00:16:14.000 And I couldn't sleep for two years after doing that movie.
00:16:18.000 Two years in the middle of the night, horrible nightmares.
00:16:25.000 Something hard that happens to you in your life, you can either fade away or turn and fight.
00:16:34.000 And I've decided to fight back because those precious children are God and I'd give my life for God.
00:16:41.000 I'm talking about the Jesus Christ God.
00:16:43.000 Okay.
00:16:47.000 This, the QAnon stuff, Jim's QAnon.
00:16:58.000 Well, let's look into that because that could be really evil.
00:17:04.000 Somewhere in Congress, they said QAnon is racist.
00:17:08.000 Okay.
00:17:10.000 We don't like that, right?
00:17:12.000 But so is the Ku Klutz Klan.
00:17:14.000 And that's another letter. 0.87
00:17:15.000 It's a K.
00:17:16.000 We don't like the letter Q. 0.64
00:17:18.000 We don't like the letter K, but they don't go after the letter K.
00:17:22.000 And I started looking into Senator Byrd, and he was a grand wizard.
00:17:26.000 Hillary Clinton's tie to him and Joe Biden's tie to him. 0.94
00:17:31.000 Understand, this is a Ku Klutz Klan now. 0.93
00:17:34.000 And there is a lot of data that can prove that the Ku Klutz Klan is an evil organization. 0.80
00:17:42.000 And so are the Nazis.
00:17:45.000 One could say that they're also racist, but they don't go after those. 1.00
00:17:48.000 Only the QAnon. 1.00
00:17:49.000 Now, if I, by way of analogy, if I were the Apostle Saul and I'm a Pharisee, I'm going to go after the Christians. 1.00
00:18:01.000 I'm going to take them down. 1.00
00:18:01.000 Now, remove Christians, and let's make it QAnon. 1.00
00:18:04.000 I'm going to destroy them because the Romans told me they're evil. 1.00
00:18:08.000 I'm going to destroy them because my own church staff, my Pharisee, fellow Pharisees said evil. 1.00
00:18:15.000 I'm going to take them out. 1.00
00:18:16.000 And then you find out it's not QAnon, it's Q and Anons.
00:18:22.000 And Q puts out a question, and you're not allowed to ask questions anymore.
00:18:26.000 Not allowed to. 0.99
00:18:28.000 And the Anons, they look it all up and they start looking and investigating this stuff. 1.00
00:18:36.000 I never knew about them while I was doing this movie, Sound of Freedom, has nothing to do with our film. 0.96
00:18:42.000 But it's really interesting that they pointed to this immediately and said, that guy's one of them.
00:18:47.000 He's bad.
00:18:48.000 I'll tell you the rest after that.
00:18:50.000 Jim, we have to have you back soon.
00:18:52.000 I'm sorry, we're out of time.
00:18:53.000 Angel.com slash Jim.
00:18:55.000 Jim, thank you for your courage and your willingness to speak out.
00:18:58.000 You are in the middle of the spiritual war, and we're praying for you and keep your spiritual disciplines on the top of your list because the enemy is not happy with what you're exposing.
00:19:08.000 Jim, thank you so much.
00:19:09.000 Thank you.
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00:20:14.000 In the last 24 hours, there's been some news that we are in the center of, and it plays into a lot of other dynamics here.
00:20:22.000 So this weekend, we have our Turning Point Action Conference.
00:20:25.000 The conference is the tip of the spear.
00:20:27.000 We anticipate anywhere between 5,500 to 6,000 people in attendance.
00:20:33.000 Well, over 300 pastors will be in attendance.
00:20:36.000 Over 2,000 precinct committeemen will be in attendance.
00:20:40.000 We have 2,000 to 3,000 of our student activists that will be in attendance.
00:20:44.000 Hundreds of our top donors will be in attendance and millions of people online, not to mention hundreds of social media influencers and ambassadors.
00:20:53.000 Now, hosting this event, you learn a lot about different presidential campaigns, different strategies.
00:21:00.000 And yes, I am in support of President Donald Trump in 2024.
00:21:05.000 Great president, good friend.
00:21:08.000 I want to become president again.
00:21:11.000 Hosting this event, we understand that there's a Republican primary going on.
00:21:15.000 So our team made, I believe, the right decision to open up and invite every single candidate running for the presidency.
00:21:24.000 Even Bobby Kennedy.
00:21:25.000 And I said, hey, you want to come?
00:21:26.000 Hey, Joe Biden, you want to come?
00:21:27.000 Our audience would love to give you some feedback.
00:21:32.000 Marianne Williamson, you want to come give a speech?
00:21:34.000 Sure, why not?
00:21:37.000 And so we opened it up.
00:21:39.000 Invites to Chris Christie, invites to Mike Pence, invites to Nikki Haley.
00:21:45.000 And to Donald Trump's credit, called up President Trump a couple months ago.
00:21:48.000 He said, I'll be there.
00:21:49.000 Yes, sir.
00:21:51.000 And he said, Charlie, I have such respect for Turning Point.
00:21:54.000 He said, I know the place that Turning Point plays in the movement.
00:21:58.000 He said, I know how powerful Turning Point is.
00:22:00.000 And he says, I'm there.
00:22:01.000 You let me know, clear my schedule.
00:22:03.000 I'm there for you.
00:22:04.000 Vivek Ramaswamy, one text message, one commitment.
00:22:09.000 Big props to him.
00:22:10.000 He said, Charlie, whatever you need, I'm there.
00:22:13.000 Dan Bongino, one text message, I'll be there.
00:22:16.000 Steve Bannon, one text message, I'll be there.
00:22:18.000 Tucker Carlson, I'll be there.
00:22:19.000 Megan Kelly, I'll be there.
00:22:21.000 JD Vance, I'll be there.
00:22:22.000 Josh Hawley, I'll be there.
00:22:23.000 Ted Cruz, I'll be there.
00:22:25.000 Matt Gates, Ana Paulina, Marjorie Taylor Green, Lauren Bober, Mike Lindell, Harmeet Dylan.
00:22:31.000 Their responses were really humbling, honestly.
00:22:34.000 Of Charlie, we wouldn't miss it for the world.
00:22:36.000 We understand what Turning Point represents.
00:22:38.000 We understand that you guys are even more than a youth organization now.
00:22:42.000 In some ways, you are on the tip of the spear.
00:22:44.000 You are doing the work to save the country.
00:22:46.000 And I wish I could take credit for it, but the credit goes to the Lord, goes to the team, goes to the 280,000 grassroots donors that we now have at Turning Point USA and Turning Point Action.
00:22:57.000 And so we sent out these invites.
00:22:58.000 And again, we have a lot of strong opinions on this show, and sometimes it turns some people off.
00:23:03.000 But I'll be very honest, I have an immense amount of respect for Governor Asa Hutchinson from Arkansas.
00:23:09.000 I've been kind of critical of him.
00:23:11.000 He committed.
00:23:12.000 He's coming to our event.
00:23:13.000 And I'm going to tell the audience to allow every single speaker to have, you know, to hear their case.
00:23:19.000 Mayor Suarez from Miami is coming to make his case.
00:23:24.000 And so we've are finally kind of hearing back of the final decisions of what campaigns are going to show up to what is the largest event of the summer.
00:23:34.000 Again, this is not, I think some campaigns like, oh, it's just a bunch of people in a room.
00:23:39.000 Even if it was a bunch of people in the room, you shouldn't discount that.
00:23:42.000 But these are your super activists.
00:23:44.000 These are thousands of precinct committeemen, state party chairs, major donors.
00:23:48.000 We got several billionaires showing up because I guess that's something they really care about.
00:23:53.000 Not to mention the media presence.
00:23:54.000 I mean, Andrew has done an amazing job.
00:23:57.000 We have so much media.
00:23:59.000 We don't have enough space with the amount of cameras and the amount of just real estate that's being taken up for interviews and one-offs, not to mention the hundreds of social media ambassadors, tons of grassroots.
00:24:13.000 And so you play this out.
00:24:15.000 We got Breitbart, Daily Caller, and yeah, we got CNN.
00:24:18.000 We got Politico.
00:24:19.000 We got Washington Post, New York Times, Newsmax, RSBN, RAV, CBS Pool Feed, Epic Times.
00:24:19.000 We got NPR.
00:24:24.000 We got Victory News.
00:24:25.000 I mean, you add it.
00:24:26.000 It's no exaggeration.
00:24:28.000 Tens of millions of eyeballs will be on this event.
00:24:31.000 And so you're probably saying, okay, Charlie, we got this.
00:24:34.000 Hear me out.
00:24:35.000 It's very important.
00:24:36.000 So Nikki Haley declined our invite. 0.74
00:24:38.000 Okay.
00:24:39.000 Hope she reconsiders.
00:24:40.000 She probably won't.
00:24:40.000 Mike Pence declined our invite.
00:24:42.000 Tim Scott declined our invite.
00:24:44.000 Chris Christie hasn't got back to us.
00:24:45.000 I don't think there's a working email on his website.
00:24:51.000 Let me think who else.
00:24:52.000 Doug Bergam, I think, is considering coming.
00:24:54.000 I hope he comes.
00:24:55.000 And I'm going to say this as factually and as objectively as I can.
00:25:01.000 You cannot win the Republican primary without winning this audience and winning over this room, period.
00:25:10.000 The amount of grassroots influencers, these people are involved 24-7 in the movement, and they pay attention.
00:25:21.000 President Trump, to his great credit, he knew that immediately.
00:25:24.000 Yes, I'll be there.
00:25:26.000 These are the people that make the party work.
00:25:28.000 They show up.
00:25:28.000 They collect signatures.
00:25:30.000 They donate.
00:25:30.000 They host events.
00:25:32.000 They do pressure campaigns against certain candidates or elected officials.
00:25:36.000 In fact, we have long, long, long lists of other candidates that want to show up that are running for dog catcher to mayor, running for this and that.
00:25:45.000 We got some big announcements too of people that are primarying that'll be there.
00:25:49.000 Okay, so we send out all these invites.
00:25:51.000 And I want to just say this by saying I have a great deal of respect for Governor DeSantis.
00:25:55.000 I think he's America's greatest governor.
00:25:57.000 I think he's done a wonderful job.
00:25:59.000 And I refuse to attack him or do any of that stuff.
00:26:02.000 I don't do that.
00:26:03.000 I think he's been an excellent governor, and I'm going to stand by that because it's true.
00:26:08.000 I also think it's a mistake.
00:26:10.000 He has declined our invite in a rather perplexing way.
00:26:13.000 I don't understand it.
00:26:16.000 It's in his home state.
00:26:18.000 It's in Palm Beach.
00:26:20.000 And I think this is in a ginormous missed opportunity for him.
00:26:24.000 His team was strongly considering it, and they declined.
00:26:27.000 They said, I don't really know what they said, but he's not coming.
00:26:32.000 And I can't quite figure out.
00:26:36.000 They said he has other commitments.
00:26:38.000 Okay.
00:26:39.000 What could be more important than that?
00:26:41.000 Do you want to win the nomination or not?
00:26:45.000 Imagine if he would have had an opposite view.
00:26:48.000 Imagine if he would have been early to commit in his home state and he would have said, you know what?
00:26:52.000 I'm going to host a meet and greet across the street and we're going to have all of our influencers show up and we're going to compete at the Turning Point Action Conference, which is labeled by the media as being a MAGA group.
00:27:05.000 Fine, sure.
00:27:06.000 And we're going to go right into the place that we need to win most.
00:27:11.000 You know, there are some people externally that are saying, oh, you know, DeSantis is afraid of being booed or whatever.
00:27:16.000 First of all, I wouldn't put up with that.
00:27:19.000 I've said before, I'm going to tell the audience to be respectful.
00:27:22.000 Number two, you got to face the audience and win them over.
00:27:25.000 You have a great record of accomplishment.
00:27:27.000 Go into there.
00:27:29.000 This is a question of dominance.
00:27:31.000 And by the way, Trump got booed a lot in 2015 or 16.
00:27:34.000 Address it.
00:27:35.000 Say, hold on, hold on.
00:27:36.000 Come on.
00:27:36.000 Let me do my record.
00:27:37.000 Be an alpha.
00:27:40.000 Face it.
00:27:41.000 Don't run away from it.
00:27:43.000 I get booed all the time on a college campus.
00:27:46.000 You could turn it to your advantage.
00:27:49.000 You could turn it to a win.
00:27:51.000 You can engage and be like, come on, guys, can I get a word in edge-wise?
00:27:56.000 Engage, make lively discussion with it.
00:28:00.000 Don't take yourself so seriously.
00:28:03.000 You got to win these people over.
00:28:05.000 Be dominant.
00:28:07.000 You know what he could have done?
00:28:08.000 He could have said, let's take questions.
00:28:10.000 Could you imagine?
00:28:12.000 He could have come up and said, let's open up the mic one by one.
00:28:16.000 What's your objection?
00:28:18.000 What do you think you know about me?
00:28:20.000 Let's talk about it.
00:28:22.000 Could you imagine the virality?
00:28:24.000 At the Turning Point Action Conference, Governor DeSantis throws away his speech, says, Let's do an open mic.
00:28:30.000 Your question.
00:28:31.000 And if you, the fact their team has not done this shows that they're either afraid of the grassroots or they don't have respect for the grassroots.
00:28:38.000 You're not going to win the nomination if you don't win these folks over.
00:28:41.000 Period.
00:28:43.000 There's no way through it.
00:28:45.000 You know, I was speaking to President Trump the other day and I said, what do you have in mind for this speech?
00:28:48.000 He's like, eh, whatever.
00:28:50.000 Wanted to do questions, wanted an interview.
00:28:52.000 He's like, let's lean in.
00:28:55.000 I kind of told him, I was like, Mr. President, I have a lot of respect.
00:28:58.000 It's like, it's kind of a beast.
00:29:03.000 It's like, throw it at me.
00:29:06.000 That's awfully refreshing.
00:29:08.000 The guy that goes into CNN, the guy that goes into MSNBC, I'm learning a lot through this, and I am disappointed.
00:29:16.000 I'm disappointed.
00:29:17.000 I think Ron DeSantis is a great governor, and I wish he was a good presidential candidate.
00:29:25.000 Some people say, well, Charlie, why would you want someone to be a good presidential candidate?
00:29:30.000 I want the conservative movement to pursue excellence.
00:29:34.000 I want our movement to be the best.
00:29:36.000 And when someone is not performing at their best, I get saddened and disappointed over it.
00:29:42.000 I want President Trump, Ron DeSantis, Nikki Haley, Mike Pence.
00:29:48.000 I want them to be running the best campaigns they can.
00:29:50.000 I think it makes us more prepared to beat the Democrats.
00:29:54.000 Just campaign malpractice of the advice that Ron DeSantis is getting.
00:29:58.000 Someone says, Charlie, he's not attending because Donald Trump is attending.
00:30:02.000 Yeah, that's a great way to win the nomination.
00:30:04.000 I'm not going to show up to any events that Donald Trump shows up to.
00:30:07.000 Yeah, that's really sustainable.
00:30:08.000 The guy that I'm down 60 points in the polls to, it should be the opposite.
00:30:13.000 It should be, I'm going to host a meet and greet.
00:30:15.000 I'm going to do two hours of interviews with all the media out there.
00:30:18.000 I'm going to do selfies.
00:30:19.000 I'm going to have a social media influencer.
00:30:21.000 I'm going to do a thing across the street.
00:30:23.000 I'm going to do, there's all out.
00:30:25.000 What an unbelievable missed opportunity.
00:30:29.000 Play cut two.
00:30:31.000 We've got a long way to go.
00:30:32.000 I'm looking forward to being able to participate in the debates, but this is not something that, you know, I ever expected to just snap fingers and all of a sudden, you know, you win seven months before anyone happens.
00:30:44.000 You got to earn it and you got to work.
00:30:46.000 You know, earn is one of my favorite words in the English language.
00:30:51.000 I'm perplexed because I actually think Governor DeSantis probably deep down would want to do this event.
00:30:58.000 But somebody said otherwise.
00:31:03.000 There's now a blitzkrieg of anti-Trump advertisements that are being run.
00:31:08.000 So I guess the strategy is don't show up to the grassroots.
00:31:11.000 Don't talk to the actual workers.
00:31:13.000 Don't talk to the influencers.
00:31:15.000 Instead, let's just hope that this deluge of money is going to come in.
00:31:21.000 So this is a new advertisement that is going to be spent against.
00:31:25.000 So this primary is going to become bloody and expensive, $1.5 billion primary.
00:31:32.000 This is a new advertisement that is running of a PAC that is linked to Club for Growth funding $3.6 million advertisement campaign to try to stop President Trump.
00:31:43.000 Play cut 37.
00:31:45.000 I'm not really a fan of what's going on right now.
00:31:48.000 I mean, the Democrats are just unbelievable.
00:31:50.000 It's a mess. 0.90
00:31:53.000 It's a hot mess.
00:31:54.000 I love Donald Trump.
00:31:55.000 I love what he did.
00:31:56.000 Once he got in, I thought it was a breath of fresh air.
00:32:00.000 He was attacked all the time, and it seemed like, you know, it just seemed non-stop.
00:32:05.000 The drama, it affected my family.
00:32:08.000 I mean, you know, with my own sister, I didn't get invited to her Thanksgiving after a while.
00:32:14.000 He's got so many distractions.
00:32:16.000 The constant fighting something every day.
00:32:18.000 And I'm not sure he can focus on moving the country forward.
00:32:21.000 The election is really important because we're going in the wrong direction.
00:32:25.000 I mean, we definitely need somebody that can freaking win.
00:32:28.000 They could probably lose that bet if you voted for Trump.
00:32:32.000 You want somebody as smart who actually knows how to build teams to solve issues, focus on the issues that really need to be fixed.
00:32:42.000 Win a backpack is responsible for the content of this ad.
00:32:45.000 Just let me just understand that this guy's not going to vote for Trump because he got disinvited to his neurotic, weird liberal sister's home for Thanksgiving.
00:32:54.000 Okay, so the country's falling apart, and I'm going to go pursue other options because I want my incredibly intolerant left-wing sister to invite me over again. 0.97
00:33:05.000 And what a low-energy, low-testosterone ad.
00:33:08.000 It's like this guy is like sitting on his porch, like meandering, not making any sense at all.
00:33:15.000 Oh, I just think he has a lot of baggage, and I don't know.
00:33:20.000 And I just want to kind of win.
00:33:23.000 Oh, he's won before.
00:33:25.000 So that $1.5 billion is going to be spent on that.
00:33:29.000 That nonsense.
00:33:31.000 Tens of millions of people are going to be watching our summit this weekend.
00:33:35.000 I think the Governor DeSantis campaign team vastly underestimates how many eyeballs we're able to generate.
00:33:41.000 I've received at least 20 text messages from people because now the absence is now the story.
00:33:48.000 He even could have come and just gave a normal speech in a woodman.
00:33:51.000 Now him not showing up, people are saying, where is he?
00:33:53.000 It's his home state.
00:33:53.000 Where is he?
00:33:54.000 It's his home state.
00:33:55.000 He's now created a story where there was no story.
00:33:58.000 Receiving a lot of questions.
00:33:59.000 Got multi-billionaires texting me.
00:34:02.000 Why is he not showing up?
00:34:03.000 I thought that's where woke goes to die.
00:34:07.000 Well, I guess you got to show up.
00:34:08.000 He says you have to earn it.
00:34:10.000 You have to work.
00:34:14.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
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00:34:20.000 Thank you so much for listening and God bless.
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