00:00:00.000Hey everybody, today's Charlie Kirk Show.
00:00:02.000Peter Schweiser joins us about the recent revelations regarding Joe Biden, including Joe and Hunter Biden prostituting themselves for money.
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00:01:49.000We partner on a lot of different things.
00:01:50.000Give us an update of how things are going.
00:01:52.000Well, Charlie, thanks to you and your incredible listeners and community and this overall movement toward the parallel economy, leaving woke companies like Target, Anheuser, Busch, Disney behind.
00:02:04.000We actually have recently achieved over a million consumer memberships on the platform.
00:02:23.000And every single day, this progressive Marxist culture that's infiltrated corporate America continues to remind us why a platform like this is so needed now than ever.
00:02:33.000Yeah, especially during this Pride Month nonsense where we're seeing companies, one that we're going to talk about some examples here.
00:02:41.000But Michael, if you were to say which company is totally out of alignment with their normal customer, I'd put Cracker Barrel at the top of the list.
00:02:52.000Now, I wouldn't ever want to go to Cracker Barrel because I consider eating there to be a very cruel, unusual form of punishment.
00:03:01.000Maybe if you're going on some sort of road trip and you run out of gas and you haven't eaten for a couple of weeks, then you might find yourself in a Cracker Barrel.
00:03:09.000But Cracker Barrel all of a sudden has gone super pro-LGBT.
00:03:14.000But now what they need to do, Michael, is for people that are going on a road trip that are 95 miles off a highway and they're running out of gas, take out the Public Square app and see if there is a patriotic business instead of Cracker Barrel.
00:03:45.000And that's exactly the message we're trying to communicate is that it's not just enough to boycott.
00:03:49.000It's not enough just to say we're leaving this behind.
00:03:52.000We have to have quality alternatives that we're going to.
00:03:54.000And now we're over 55,000 vendors on the platform that serve these quality alternatives.
00:03:59.000And while Starbucks decides to fund abortions and Target decides to do the same and all of them are lecturing you about gender ideology, we're speaking an antithetical message.
00:04:10.000We're actually going the opposite direction and saying that while they prioritize intersectionality, we're prioritizing true equality and the value of the individual.
00:04:18.000While they're prioritizing funding their employees' abortions, we actually announced this morning, Charlie, that we are doing a baby bonus, $5,000 to any employee of ours that has a baby or chooses to adopt.
00:04:31.000So whatever this culture is doing that leads to ultimately the destruction of society, we are doing the opposite.
00:04:37.000And we're so grateful that millions of Americans are coming with us.
00:04:52.000It's that major companies, they do not want their productive female employees to have to be distracted with children at home.
00:05:01.000So they subsidize the massacring of the kids in the womb so they could stay happy corporate robots so they don't have to have paid family leave or you might not be able to respond to the email as quick on a Saturday afternoon because you have a little kid.
00:05:18.000These companies paying for abortions, it's less ideological and it's just pure corporate profit.
00:05:25.000I'm really glad you guys are doing that.
00:05:26.000Why isn't it Goldman Sachs, Citibank, Wells Fargo, Dropbox, Salesforce?
00:05:32.000Why don't they pay their employees to have kids?
00:05:35.000Oh, because if their employees start to have kids, then all of a sudden they'll be less loyal to Salesforce and actually might have some distraction.
00:05:44.000And abortion is a way to keep them attached to the corporate golden calf.
00:05:50.000So Michael, let's talk about Starbucks.
00:05:52.000By the way, everyone, again, take out your phone and download the Public Square app.
00:05:56.000It's your navigational tool of this new economy.
00:05:59.000Starbucks is retreating, backtracking, denying a lot of information around Starbucks right now.
00:06:06.000So Starbucks, for people that want to go there, I guess, you would see that they're taking down Pride stuff, but the recent update is that they're denying it, right?
00:06:18.000So Starbucks is denying that they've banned Pride decorations from its stores.
00:06:22.000However, the Starbucks worker union is pushing back on the denial, saying it's received countless stories from workers who are claiming the decorations are in fact coming down.
00:06:30.000Coffee shops are one of the life sources of the public square directory.
00:06:36.000Yeah, honestly, it's interesting to watch this play out in real time of this teeter-totter back and forth messaging between the unions and Starbucks corporately.
00:06:45.000Starbucks continuing to reaffirm its support for the alphabet mafia.
00:06:48.000And actually in the statement of the spokesperson, he literally listed out like 27 different letters.
00:06:54.000He created new letters to the alphabet that I hadn't even seen before.
00:06:57.000It was egregious to watch this corporate pandering to this community that's again, all based upon progressive politics and consumers are just tired of it.
00:07:06.000And so what we're hearing loud and clear is that, especially for these daily essentials like coffee, like your food, household cleaning items, that there's such these strong, there's such a strong need for alternatives.
00:07:17.000And that's why coffee is one of the largest industries on our platform.
00:07:20.000And I was actually just at a coffee shop, a public square coffee shop last week run by an Italian immigrant, new to the United States, second generation Italian immigrant, created this coffee shop, loves this country, recognizes how special the values we hold dear are.
00:07:34.000And the entire premise is around providing high quality, excellent execution of their products to consumers that are going out of their way to support them.
00:07:45.000And it has, it's so much deeper than politics.
00:07:48.000So you can actually go to this coffee shop and know that you're supporting someone in your local community, or you can go to another Starbucks off the freeway where they're going to treat you poorly.
00:07:58.000And then they're going to pander to the alphabet, mafia, with your dollars.
00:08:01.000Like, I think the choice is pretty clear.
00:08:03.000And that's why we're trying to build this economy that's centered on these deeper principles so that you're able to unsubscribe from this corrupt intersectional system and subscribe to a new one that you know will honor the values that built this great nation in the first place.
00:08:17.000Let's play cut 58, please, of a Starbucks employee saying that they were told by corporate they cannot hang the flags because it's unsafe to do so without ladders.
00:09:07.000So, Michael, my thought is that there is some truth to this.
00:09:12.000I think, especially in Redder States, I bet if you did this, there are probably some Starbuck regional managers that got a call from the CEO.
00:09:18.000He's like, guys, can you just de-emphasize this Pride stuff?
00:09:23.000I mean, that dog does not hunt in Huntsville, Alabama.
00:09:27.000It's not exactly popular in Sioux City, South Dakota to have like this triumphant trans thing like San Francisco.
00:09:35.000Michael, I think there is a top-down order and they're trying to cover it up.
00:09:39.000I actually think there's some truth, especially regionally.
00:09:42.000Michael, your reaction: $50 billion in market cap, Charlie, has been lost, eviscerated from Anheuser-Busch, Disney, and Target in the last 60 days alone.
00:09:53.000So, what I think is happening here is those managers, like you just described, are afraid of the Bud Light effect.
00:10:00.000They're recognizing that the writing's on the wall.
00:10:02.000Americans are pushing back against these ESG and DEI agendas that force this sort of messaging, and they're saying we're done.
00:10:09.000And I think it's actually really wise of those managers to hold their ground and say, We do need to pull back the prime stuff.
00:10:15.000This is going to lead to the lessening of our business.
00:10:17.000So, it's a bummer that Starbucks corporate is coming out and refuting what potentially these managers might be doing.
00:10:23.000And by the way, one last little point here: the people that were the most affected by Bud Light's malfeasance were the distributors caught in the middle.
00:10:32.000And I think these managers of Starbucks are probably in the same scenario.
00:10:35.000They're like, We do not want to answer for they don't franchise, I think, right?
00:10:38.000I think Starbucks doesn't franchise, but the mid-level managers probably, no, but they probably have bonuses and they have to meet metrics, right?
00:10:45.000So, I mean, if you're a mid-level manager and you oversee the Great Plains, does Starbucks franchise?
00:10:52.000The mid-level managers that they do in the Great Plains, they're like, Look, I got to hit my goals here.
00:10:58.000And in Lincoln, Nebraska, our sales are down or whatever it is.
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00:12:14.000So we're about halfway through Pride Month, Michael.
00:12:18.000Are things going better than you would have expected on the kind of patriot economy corporate front?
00:12:24.000$50 billion that has been lost in market value from these companies.
00:12:28.000Did you anticipate this sort of reaction?
00:12:31.000Charlie, I got to be honest, we saw it two years ago.
00:12:34.000When we started Public Square initially, we started it with an inclination toward this coming moment that we're currently seeing right now.
00:12:44.000And back then, it was interesting because when I tell people about the fact that we were building this website, this directory of non-woke businesses that were going to push back against this progressive economy and they were going to provide America-first options for all of our life's essentials, I was met with a lot of, are you sure the country's ready?
00:12:59.000And I don't know, it hadn't gotten that bad.
00:13:07.000In fact, the mama bears have led the way.
00:13:09.000And our average consumer on the platform today is a mid-30s mama bear that loves her kids and is tired of the indoctrination.
00:13:16.000And they have led the way in shaping this parallel economy.
00:13:19.000And that, by the way, is the most powerful consumer demographic.
00:13:22.000That's over 70% of daily purchases are made by that demographic.
00:13:25.000And so what we've seen this month has not actually surprised me.
00:13:28.000You've seen two things happen at the same time.
00:13:30.000One is Americans are waking up and are realizing that being indoctrinated by companies and lectured about gender ideology when you're trying to buy a cup of coffee gets really tiring.
00:13:39.000And number two, those companies will eventually turn face if you hit their profits.
00:13:46.000If you hit their profits, and you actually penalize these companies, we're going to start to see the tide turn in our favor.
00:13:54.000It's easy to be woke when interest rates are low.
00:13:57.000It is tougher to be woke when interest rates are high and the economy is a little bit jittery.
00:14:03.000All of a sudden, you're asking, wait, we're not even making profit.
00:14:06.000And then you ask yourself, are we a coffee company that's supposed to turn a profit?
00:14:10.000Or are we a coffee company with millions of shareholders?
00:14:13.000As soon as that question starts to get asked, this woke stuff starts to get put in jeopardy.
00:14:29.000Gender affirmative care is medically necessary, safe, and effective for transgender and non-binary youth and adults.
00:14:37.000Those who attack our LGBTQI community are driven by an agenda that has nothing to do with science and medicine.
00:14:46.000These are politically and ideologically motivated attacks again on trans youth, and they are contrary to the overwhelming science and evidence.
00:14:56.000We have to stand up and advocate and take a stand on behalf of those who would be harmed in many states across the country.
00:15:05.000This is being pushed by the government to corporations.
00:15:08.000We then see Lockheed Martin, a defense contractor, marching in the streets for pride.
00:15:14.000Michael, we are really going to come up against an inflection point where these companies are going to have to decide.
00:15:22.000And by the way, they better be careful because shareholder lawsuits need to be threatened if they make the wrong decision because they have a fiduciary responsibility to return profit to the shareholders.
00:15:34.000And now there is provable evidence that overly embracing this stuff, class action lawsuits can threaten you.
00:15:44.000Yeah, Charlie, these companies prioritizing a high ESG score over the interests of their consumers and shareholders is at the root of all of this.
00:15:53.000They are far more pleased with getting a loan from Jamie Dimon and JPMorgan Chase because they had a high ESG score than they are when the consumers are actually happy with them or when shareholders are happy with them.
00:16:04.000So, Elon Musk earlier this week called for a class action lawsuit against Target from the shareholders because 15 billion got wiped off of that company alone's market cap, which is absolute degradation to the value of the shareholders.
00:16:15.000And I think this should happen across the board.
00:16:17.000I think BlackRock and Vanguard and State Street and Jamie Dimon and J.P. Morgan Chase, all the way to the top, should learn that them pushing these companies to make bad bets towards socially engineered progressivism nonsense leads to an uprising of consumers and shareholders that are saying we've had enough.
00:16:37.000And I believe firmly, Charlie, that the tide will turn in our direction and then people will recognize that America First Marketplace is the only way to go.
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00:18:40.000You have been way ahead of the curve on this Biden stuff.
00:18:43.000When I mean ahead of the curve, I mean years ahead of the curve.
00:18:48.000And I personally, I do this for a living.
00:18:51.000I read the news 10 hours a day, 12 hours a day.
00:18:54.000I get confused on the Biden corruption stuff.
00:18:57.000I need kind of like a massive whiteboard of webs and wire transfers and shell corporations.
00:19:04.000And then I don't always know when I hear a new piece of news from Chuck Grassley, for example, or James Comer: is this news or is this something that Peter Schweiser tries to tell us two years ago?
00:19:14.000So, what is considered news and what is considered now evidentiary confirmation of what we've already known?
00:19:19.000So, Peter, walk us through what is considered to be new and what we've already known.
00:19:24.000Well, we all knew for years now that the Bidens were getting paid by Ukraine, and that came because Hunter was, of course, put on the board and became a consultant to Burisma, that Ukrainian energy company.
00:19:35.000What is new is the fact that you had a confidential source to the FBI go to the FBI and say, I had a conversation with the head of that Burisma company.
00:19:47.000His name is Lechewski, who is, by the way, kind of a pro-Russian Ukrainian.
00:19:53.000And he told me that he paid $5 million to Joe and $5 million to Hunter, basically as protection money.
00:20:02.000This is above and beyond the million dollars a year that Hunter Biden was getting.
00:20:07.000He also says, this confidential source says that Zlichewski recorded phone conversations with both Vice President Joe Biden and Hunter Biden.
00:20:20.000That is further evidence to kind of what we knew before, but I think tightens the noose as far as this scandal is concerned with the Bidens.
00:20:28.000And it's getting increasingly difficult, Charlie, for them to say, oh, no, it was a business relationship.
00:20:36.000The noose is tightening, and that is a problem for the Bidens.
00:20:39.000And I will add, Charlie, that we don't know who this FBI confidential informant is, but we keep being told this is a very, very, very reliable source.
00:20:49.000He's been giving information to the FBI for 10 years.
00:20:53.000If you look at Burisma, there are several former U.S. government employees that either joined the board or became consultants to Burisma, former CIA, former FBI officials.
00:21:06.000I would not be surprised if those are the actual sources for the information that the FBI has.
00:21:14.000The problem is, Charlie, the FBI does not seem to have done anything with this.
00:21:19.000They have this confidential source telling them something very, very shocking about the Vice President of the United States.
00:21:26.000There's no evidence thus far that they further investigated, that they shared it with the Department of Justice.
00:21:43.000But I want to play this piece of tape, and I want you to tell us, based on what Chuck Grassley is saying, who's very credible, how much of this did we not know, for example, a year and a half ago?
00:22:44.000And let's remember what Joe Biden has insisted from the beginning is he had absolutely no contact with Burisma, this Ukrainian energy company that was paying his son.
00:22:56.000This seems to directly contradict it, that he was in fact talking with Burisma executives.
00:23:02.000There's another interesting wrinkle here, Charlie.
00:23:05.000If you look at the laptop, the Hunter Biden laptop, you will notice that Hunter Biden is paying for a cell phone for his father to use while he's Vice President of the United States.
00:23:30.000The oversight committee is apparently going to subpoena those phone records.
00:23:36.000If they do so, we gave the committee the phone number.
00:23:39.000We know the phone number that was Joe Biden's back channel number when he was vice president.
00:23:44.000If they subpoena those records, we should know pretty quickly who he was talking to and when he was talking to them.
00:23:50.000And if we, in fact, see numbers from Zlachevsky or Burisma, that is direct confirmation that that conversation or those conversations actually took place.
00:24:01.000I just want to reiterate something that you mentioned.
00:24:07.000If I'm not mistaken, the Oversight Committee is relying on a lot of the research that you've done because they could be going into a labyrinth of trapdoors and stuff.
00:24:33.000What the committee can do, as you point out, is issue subpoenas so they can actually get phone records.
00:24:38.000So, for example, the committee has talked about about $10 million that they've accounted to going to the Bidens from these foreign entities, primarily China.
00:24:47.000Well, that's only based on subpoenas of four of 12 banks.
00:24:52.000They still have not received subpoenas from those other eight banks.
00:24:55.000They still haven't received the financial records.
00:24:59.000But yes, the committee is using our work as a roadmap, but they have the ability to force people like Hunter Biden's business partners, for example.
00:25:08.000They can subpoena them, force them to share information and cooperate, which I think some of them are doing.
00:25:59.000But again, the Biden family is using a multitude of banks, and it will be very, very interesting to see where that money shows up.
00:26:08.000There is also the possibility, Charlie, there are hints in the laptop about a possible offshore accounts.
00:26:16.000So they may have been using financial institutions beyond the 12 that we know of.
00:26:21.000And it may be very hard to actually trace this money.
00:26:24.000So if you were to guesstimate based on everything that we have learned, let's say from the moment that Joe Biden became vice president, let's not even go before that, from 2009, January of 2009 to today, over 14 years, how much foreign money has the Biden family received?
00:26:42.000We know that it's about 31 million from China.
00:26:47.000We know that there is at least another $5 to $7 million from the Ukraine.
00:26:53.000We know that there was $3.5 million from Russia.
00:28:00.000This foreign business entity that they were collecting cash from started six months after Joe Biden became Vice President of the United States.
00:28:09.000And all of the money Charlie comes from specific countries that Vice President Joe Biden was given responsibility for by Barack Obama.
00:28:19.000They had no product and no services to sell.
00:28:59.000Were there geopolitical decisions that were made because of these capital flows?
00:29:05.000We have a word for that, and it rhymes with reason.
00:29:11.000If there were to be indictments of Hunter Biden, what do you think they will be outside of this silly process stuff, you know, gun registration stuff, which doesn't interest me?
00:29:21.000And are you seeing any trajectory or pattern of evidence that they might be taking Biden out?
00:29:32.000I think when it comes to Hunter Biden, there's certainly clear evidence for him to be indicted on tax evasion charges, which you're looking at multiple years in prison.
00:29:43.000You certainly have failing to register as a foreign agent, which they have thrown other people into jail for doing.
00:29:50.000I also think that you can get them on conspiracy charges, that he was taking foreign money and he was getting meetings and other favors for people in high office.
00:30:01.000And there are multiple examples, by the way, of Hunter Biden being involved in specific deals that undermined American national security.
00:30:09.000To the larger picture, where it comes to Joe Biden, I think these new revelations take it right to Joe Biden himself.
00:30:18.000I think there was evidence before to show that he was part of Hunter's business model.
00:30:22.000But if you indeed have evidence, which I think we now have, of money going straight to Joe Biden, Joe Biden has a serious problem.
00:30:30.000What the Department of Justice does is one thing, but I do think, Charlie, that within Democratic circles, there are concerns about his age.
00:30:39.000I think there are also concerns about this growing scandal.
00:30:42.000I would not be surprised to see elements of the Democratic Party turn on him, and we'll have a situation where in the fall, the mainstream media has effectively turned on him, and that you see somebody like Gavin Newsom become the standard bearer because the Democrats want to win.
00:30:59.000And I think with the age factor and with all of these scandals, they are concerned that Joe Biden is sinking pretty quickly in a pond and they want to find somebody else.
00:31:09.000Yeah, and Gavin Newsom is doing offense.
00:31:19.000I mean, Gavin is an awful governor, but he is no John Fetterman.
00:31:23.000The guy can play ball at the highest level.
00:31:27.000You mentioned something interesting about internal Democrat circles maybe taking out Joe Biden.
00:31:32.000The kind of white female liberal coronation super PAC, otherwise known as Emily's List, funded by sexless, you know, mid-50s something hedge fund wives, is running a bunch of ads for Cammie, Kamala Harris, out of nowhere.
00:31:47.000Emily's List, which is the pro-abortion group, is coming in with tons of ads promoting Kamala Harris.
00:31:53.000Is there a wink and a nod that might be trying to lay the foundation here?
00:32:06.000And also, there are limitations, right?
00:32:08.000It's possible that this dam breaks and the evidence gets to be so terrible against Joe Biden, it becomes indefensible that even this administrative state can't cover it up.
00:32:19.000I mean, look, I still want to believe that there are standards, even those that would agree politically with Joe Biden, that they would say, like, look, this is enough is enough.
00:32:27.000And again, we're not talking about, in Joe Biden's case, some kind of process crime or some, you know, we're talking about conduct when he was vice president of the United States with national security responsibilities, taking foreign money, not from France or Great Britain, which would be a problem, but from our major adversaries on the global stage.
00:32:47.000And in my mind, we are quickly moving that direction.
00:32:51.000And I think there is blood in the water.
00:32:53.000The recent surveys, Harvard Harris poll recently did a survey.
00:32:57.00067% of the American people believe that Joe Biden engaged in corrupt behavior when he was vice president because of his family's deals.
00:33:10.000Among independents, it was up there also in the high 60s.
00:33:14.000So this is finally, after all these years, despite the attempts to shut down the Hunter Biden laptop in the 2020 election, the truth is now starting to seep out.
00:33:24.000And boy, I think they've got a real problem, the Democrats.