The Charlie Kirk Show - June 02, 2022


Joe Biden Fantasizes About Banning Hand Guns


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On this episode of the Charlie Kirk Show, Jack Pascoe gives us an update from the front lines on gun control and Joe Biden's nonsensical meandering when it comes to gun control. Plus, a reminder that the Second Amendment was never a state-based law.

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00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, today on the Charlie Kirk show, Jack Pasobic back from a scenic tour of Europe.
00:00:04.000 Goodness, he was all over Ukraine.
00:00:06.000 He was in Rome.
00:00:07.000 He was in Budapest.
00:00:08.000 He was in Davos.
00:00:09.000 He was in Geneva.
00:00:10.000 The great Jack Pasobic gives us an update from the front lines.
00:00:13.000 We talk about red flag laws and Joe Biden's just nonsensical meandering when it comes to gun policy, that and so much more.
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00:01:41.000 I want to talk kind of about gun control and pushback against a lot of Biden's kind of incoherent ramblings about this.
00:01:49.000 It would be not even newsworthy if Joe Biden didn't have power, but he does have power.
00:01:55.000 And Joe Biden is going to try to pass some form of federal gun confiscation, including what he calls increased background checks and red flag laws.
00:02:04.000 And so I want to just repeat the point.
00:02:06.000 These things might sound reasonable if you haven't been paying attention the last couple of years.
00:02:11.000 If you have not been paying attention about what the federal government does to try to put you on lists and then act on those lists, whether it be vaccination lists, whether it be COVID surveillance, moms and dads being classified as domestic terrorists.
00:02:28.000 So anytime now they act as if expanding the reach of the federal government, like, oh, well, we don't want these certain people to be able to own guns.
00:02:35.000 What's the criteria?
00:02:35.000 Who decides it?
00:02:36.000 Who's in charge of it?
00:02:38.000 Do you trust those people?
00:02:40.000 Do the federal government response to COVID give you more trust of the government or less trust of the government?
00:02:47.000 So the best example against gun control that I always make is pick a random federal bureaucrat and then fill in the sentence of the power you're about to give them.
00:02:59.000 So I think some of you listening might say, Charlie, come on, we have to have waiting times and red flag laws.
00:03:05.000 Like, okay, would you trust Anthony Fauci to execute such a policy?
00:03:12.000 Would you trust Merrick Garland to execute such a policy?
00:03:17.000 Would you trust Kamala Harris to execute such a policy?
00:03:21.000 If the answer is yes, then you have far more trust in these Democrat operatives that call themselves cabinet secretaries than I do.
00:03:30.000 It's kind of like trusting Nancy Pelosi's husband to be your chauffeur.
00:03:35.000 Not exactly wise.
00:03:37.000 Joe Biden just starts rambling here.
00:03:40.000 Okay, play cut nine and then we'll play cut 42. 0.81
00:03:42.000 Play cut nine.
00:03:43.000 And they showed me an extra who said a .22 caliber board will live in a lung, and we can probably get it out.
00:03:53.000 Maybe I'll get it and save the life.
00:03:56.000 A nine millimeter bullet blows the lung out of the body.
00:04:01.000 So the idea of these high caliber weapons is simply no rational basis for it in terms of what they see about self-protection, money.
00:04:14.000 I mean, I guess I don't know.
00:04:17.000 The Constitution of the Second Amendment was never absolute.
00:04:20.000 So at the time, actually, the ratification, the Second Amendment was absolute.
00:04:24.000 There were no state-based or federal-based gun control laws until early in the 1800s.
00:04:31.000 So he has his constitutional history wrong.
00:04:33.000 And you actually could buy a cannon, by the way.
00:04:34.000 He says you could buy a cannon at the time.
00:04:39.000 So Joe Biden said something interesting, at least it's interesting to push back against it, where he says, why do you need these high-caliber rifles or high-caliber munitions?
00:04:52.000 Now, later in that clip, he mentions being able to push back against your government.
00:04:58.000 But it's okay.
00:04:59.000 We don't have that clip.
00:05:00.000 We have a different clip of him saying the identical, the exact same thing.
00:05:03.000 So let's play CUT 42, and then we'll dive into it.
00:05:07.000 As I said, as a senator and vice president, while they clearly will not prevent every tragedy, we know certain ones will have significant impact and have no negative impact on the Second Amendment.
00:05:22.000 Second Amendment is not absolute.
00:05:24.000 When it was passed, you couldn't own a cannon.
00:05:31.000 You couldn't own certain kinds of weapons.
00:05:34.000 It's just always been limitations.
00:05:37.000 Again, not true.
00:05:39.000 So Biden says in a different speech, the Marine One one, but we'll connect it.
00:05:43.000 I'll just paraphrase.
00:05:44.000 Basically, he's like, what?
00:05:45.000 I mean, come on, you want to be able to push back against your government?
00:05:47.000 And I say this as carefully as one possibly can.
00:05:51.000 I hope not.
00:05:53.000 But the reason why we have the Second Amendment is to defend ourselves against tyranny.
00:05:58.000 It is a firewall.
00:05:58.000 It is a safeguard.
00:06:00.000 It is a last resort.
00:06:05.000 It is in case the federal government gets out of control.
00:06:11.000 The only reason we did not have Shanghai-style lockdowns where 26 million people were locked down is because we had a Second Amendment.
00:06:17.000 The Second Amendment protects all the other amendments.
00:06:21.000 The federal government does not respect the people, but they would obliterate the people, Australia or New Zealand-style, if we did not own weapons.
00:06:30.000 In fact, the Second Amendment actually brokers peace.
00:06:35.000 It's a deterrent from potential authoritarianism and tyrannical behavior without ever actually having to fire a bullet, without ever actually having to, quote-unquote, arm up, just the thought or the possibility that that is in the calculus or in the equation makes a tyrant less likely to try and implement the vast, let's say, anti-freedom,
00:07:04.000 anti-liberty agenda that has been attempted in our country.
00:07:09.000 So gun control is now at the top of the mind of a lot of people.
00:07:12.000 Senator John Cornyn, inexplicably from Texas, is negotiating with Democrats on this.
00:07:18.000 This is how the negotiation should go.
00:07:20.000 You sit down and say, we're done.
00:07:23.000 Thank you, and leave the room.
00:07:26.000 You don't negotiate with Democrats on gun control.
00:07:29.000 You see, this is one of the reasons why they've been trying to expand the lists.
00:07:34.000 If they can expand the definition of who's considered an extremist or a danger to society, then they're able to expand who is able to be disarmed.
00:07:44.000 So, if every mom and dad that showed up at a school board meeting or complained about their child's curriculum is now a domestic terrorist, and they put in the bill that people that are classified as domestic terrorists can't own weapons, if you're not aware of kind of the game that's going on there, you say, well, yeah, of course, if you're a domestic terrorist, you shouldn't be able to own a weapon.
00:08:04.000 And then some mom is like, I'm being called a domestic terrorist.
00:08:08.000 So, the premise and the kind of push to radically expand what is defined as a terrorist is directly tied together to the gun control debate.
00:08:23.000 Thought crimes of complaining about your child's curriculum could now potentially prevent you from being able to own a firearm to protect your family.
00:08:32.000 Let's not forget that moms for liberty were labeled with the domestic terrorist labeling during the school board debates by the Federal Bureau of Investigation with a threat assessment tag.
00:08:46.000 Robert Francis O'Rourke, the trust fund baby who wants to be Hispanic, who's an Irishman, and will soon be a three-time failed candidate, can't win a Senate race, can't win a presidential race, and he certainly can't win a governor's race.
00:08:59.000 He thinks that if you own semi-automatic rifles, we should have them confiscated.
00:09:03.000 Bold strategy, Beto.
00:09:04.000 Let's see if it works for you.
00:09:05.000 Play Cut 31.
00:09:06.000 I just took the position that may not be politically popular, maybe too honest: that not only should no one be able to purchase an AR-15 or an AK-47 because they're designed to kill humans in that high-impact, high-velocity round will just tear up everything inside.
00:09:21.000 You'll bleed out before we can get you back to life.
00:09:24.000 But I don't think that the people who have them right now in civilian use should be able to keep them.
00:09:30.000 His misunderstanding of the technical nature of weapons is extraordinary considering how confident he talks about this.
00:09:41.000 It's amazing.
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00:10:47.000 Let's talk a little bit about economics.
00:10:49.000 Economics, which means the business of the house.
00:10:52.000 Oikos Nomos. 0.66
00:10:54.000 Where is my article here?
00:10:55.000 Yes, there it is by Chris Salizza.
00:10:57.000 The Republican wave is building fast.
00:11:00.000 Just over five months before the 2022 midterm elections.
00:11:02.000 You see, that's where they're wrong.
00:11:04.000 It's not five months.
00:11:05.000 Voting begins in four months, actually.
00:11:07.000 Since we have voting month in America, it's kind of this perpetual voting season.
00:11:15.000 On Thursday, the Cook political report, Amy Walter, a nonpartisan handicapping service, moved 10 of its House races in favor of Republicans and adjusted its GOP gains in the fall upward between 20 to 35 seats.
00:11:27.000 Given that Biden's approval rating is underwater and dozens of districts he carried in 2022, any Democrat sitting in a single digit Biden seat or Trump seat is at severe risk.
00:11:37.000 And even a few seats that Biden carried by 10 or 15 points could lose.
00:11:42.000 Chris Eliza writes at CNN.com, the confluence of these predictions are built on several historical trends that have been predictive over decades.
00:11:52.000 The first is that midterm elections tend to be bad for the president's party.
00:11:56.000 Since World War II, the average seat loss for a president's party in the midterms is 26.
00:12:01.000 I think Republicans are going to far exceed that.
00:12:03.000 The generic ballot tends to favor Democrats marginally in a neutral political year.
00:12:09.000 A recent poll from Quinnipiak, university showed Republicans a four-point edge on the generic ballot.
00:12:15.000 The reality of this current political moment is that things appear to be getting worse for Democrats the closer we get to the election.
00:12:21.000 Fears of a wave washing away even incumbents previously considered safe now seems entirely justified.
00:12:28.000 CNN is trying to warn people what we have seen build throughout this entire year.
00:12:34.000 Joe Biden thinks it's just about inflation.
00:12:36.000 It is about inflation, but it's also just about the overly arrogant lectures that are being given.
00:12:43.000 Janet Yellen being one of them.
00:12:46.000 And look, I don't like the I told you so stuff and all this, but man, if I could show, if I had a candid camera of the meals that I had in Palm Beach or Los Angeles or San Francisco or New York with very, very wealthy people that said, oh, there's, this is a year ago.
00:13:04.000 No inflation, not going to happen.
00:13:08.000 That's a mass hysteria.
00:13:10.000 Inflation is wrong.
00:13:12.000 And now we're living to the worst inflation of our lifetime.
00:13:15.000 The government is under-reporting inflation, which is actually a good thing, believe it or not.
00:13:22.000 I'm going to tell you why it's a good thing the government is under-reporting inflation.
00:13:25.000 But first, let's go to cut 24.
00:13:28.000 I think I was wrong then about the path that inflation would take.
00:13:35.000 As I mentioned, there have been unanticipated and large shocks to the economy that have boosted energy and food prices and supply bottlenecks that have affected our economy badly that I at the time didn't fully understand.
00:13:56.000 So she didn't quite understand because she's never actually worked in business.
00:13:59.000 We employ over 400 people at Turning Point USA between the Charlie Kirk Show, Turning Point Action, Turning Point USA, including part and full-time employees.
00:14:06.000 When you actually employ people, you have to do payroll.
00:14:08.000 You have to have expenses.
00:14:09.000 You understand what inflation is.
00:14:11.000 You understand the flow of goods.
00:14:12.000 Janet Yellen has been an academic.
00:14:14.000 Remember, we are living under the tyranny of the economic academics, the people that just look at supply and demand curves.
00:14:21.000 We have to find equilibrium.
00:14:22.000 Like, okay, how about you get in the real world and you stop just looking at the clouds and you get into the weeds, what it's like to actually create jobs and move capital.
00:14:29.000 Now, I teased this a little bit.
00:14:30.000 This is going to be a different podcast for a different time.
00:14:33.000 Why would it be a good thing that the government is under-reporting inflation?
00:14:37.000 Like, why would it be a good thing the government is lying to us?
00:14:40.000 Well, it's bad because it's really insulting to our intelligence, but it's actually good in one sense.
00:14:46.000 State and local governments have what is called automatic pay adjustment scales based on what the national federal reported inflation number is.
00:14:56.000 So, for example, in Scottsdale, they have to increase teacher pay.
00:15:01.000 I don't know if this is the case in Scottsdale, but I know it's the case for a lot of public sector workers.
00:15:04.000 They get an automatic boost every single year based on what the national inflation rate is.
00:15:10.000 It's built into their contract.
00:15:11.000 So, years prior, it was like a 1% or 2% increase that was barely noticeable.
00:15:16.000 The fact that we're not actually reporting inflation, which is it's actually 30% in certain cities, especially in Phoenix, inflation is easily 30 to 35% in the last year in Phoenix.
00:15:27.000 The fact that isn't being reported is actually going to save taxpayers a ton of money in future tax increases to actually restrain these massive increases that would happen for public sector workers and for teachers and teacher unions.
00:15:41.000 So it's one unintended consequence of the lying deceit of the National Bureau of Economics.
00:15:48.000 It's a good thing, actually.
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00:17:13.000 Jack Posobiec is, I don't know if he's back from Europe.
00:17:16.000 He might still be in Europe.
00:17:16.000 Jack, are you still in Europe?
00:17:18.000 Charlie, I can report that we have returned.
00:17:21.000 We are back on the territory of the United States of America, this glorious land.
00:17:26.000 You got your rights back.
00:17:27.000 Congratulations.
00:17:28.000 Believe it or not, man, we were not asked two and a half weeks.
00:17:31.000 We were gone, not asked once for a COVID test, for a vaccine pass, anything like that, either going into Europe.
00:17:38.000 We were in 10 countries or coming back to the U.S., not asked once.
00:17:42.000 Not asked for your papers, not even going to Ukraine?
00:17:44.000 Not even.
00:17:45.000 Oh, no, they didn't ask for anything going to Ukraine, just password.
00:17:47.000 I want to ask about that.
00:17:48.000 So you did the scenic tour of Europe.
00:17:50.000 You went from Rome to Hungary to Davos to Geneva to Poland, and then you ended up in Ukraine.
00:17:57.000 Let's start at the end.
00:18:00.000 Why did you go to Ukraine?
00:18:01.000 Oh, yeah.
00:18:02.000 Hey, Charlie, I went to Ukraine last weekend.
00:18:04.000 I didn't actually tell anybody I was going to go.
00:18:06.000 Yeah, especially, you know, your turning point USA productions team.
00:18:10.000 And I asked our team, I said, do we have like war insurance?
00:18:16.000 Okay.
00:18:16.000 Well, there was a number of people that did know.
00:18:20.000 One person on the productions team did know, but we were trying to keep this really good.
00:18:23.000 It didn't make it all the way up the ladder, but that's okay.
00:18:26.000 So how is Ukraine right now?
00:18:29.000 Besides awful and terrible and warmth.
00:18:32.000 When we got across to Lviv, right, that's that main city where you're seeing a lot of people.
00:18:35.000 Western part, right?
00:18:36.000 Western reporters.
00:18:38.000 It's directly across the border from Poland.
00:18:40.000 My family lives just on the other side of the border in Poland.
00:18:42.000 So we were visiting with them, stayed with them, and then we went across the border the next day.
00:18:47.000 Lviv is still a hustling, bustling city, very open, very free.
00:18:51.000 We were there on a weekend, a beautiful, gorgeous city.
00:18:54.000 But then as we got further and further east, we ended up taking a night train down to Odessa, and then we're able to take a car through the checkpoints.
00:19:02.000 That's what you're seeing in this video right now, into the city of Mikolaev.
00:19:05.000 Now, Mikolaev is only a few kilometers, just a couple of miles from the front lines where in Russian-occupied territory of Kherson, which is the very next city over.
00:19:16.000 So we made it about as far as the highway to Kherson, and we were essentially stopped by military saying, you know, we cannot allow any civilians to go further than this point.
00:19:25.000 But the city of Mikolaev itself has received shelling, has been struck a few times.
00:19:30.000 In fact, it was struck just the day after we left, the morning after the shipyards there at Strategic Shipyard City on the Black Sea.
00:19:36.000 And conditions absolutely deteriorating the closer you get to Russian forces.
00:19:40.000 So is Odessa still under Ukrainian control?
00:19:44.000 No, Odessa is.
00:19:45.000 Yes, that's right.
00:19:45.000 So Odessa is completely under Ukrainian control.
00:19:48.000 The beach is there.
00:19:49.000 So Odessa, huge, probably the biggest port city in all of Ukraine, one of the biggest ports.
00:19:54.000 Historically speaking, there are the Greeks and the Byzantines had a settlement there thousands of years ago.
00:20:01.000 At this point, it's currently under Ukrainian control.
00:20:04.000 A lot of mines in that seaport, though, the seaport is closed.
00:20:07.000 So that's where that 20 million tons of grain and wheat are waiting at the city of Odessa or within Ukraine.
00:20:14.000 They can't get out because of the mining of the ports.
00:20:16.000 We even went and saw on the beach itself that the beaches have been mined.
00:20:21.000 There's a sign up that says morning mines on the beach.
00:20:25.000 Meanwhile, you turn over and there's people jumping off the pier.
00:20:28.000 There's kids, there's families.
00:20:30.000 And then there's a sign right next to that saying, don't go on the beach, mines.
00:20:34.000 Wow.
00:20:34.000 So this is still an active war zone in that part of Ukraine.
00:20:38.000 I mean, it's far from Lviv, right?
00:20:40.000 I mean, there's fighting happening in that region.
00:20:43.000 So this is a, we went about 600 miles deep into Ukraine.
00:20:47.000 Right.
00:20:48.000 So quite far from Lviv.
00:20:50.000 I haven't really been keeping up with it, but very much because it's so confusing and the Western press is just awful.
00:20:56.000 Didn't Russian forces attempt to try to take Odessa at some point?
00:21:00.000 There were some reports early on of an amphibious assault on Odessa, but that later turned out to be sort of just rumors that bubbled up.
00:21:09.000 And so there's been attacks on Odessa.
00:21:11.000 There have been strikes on some of the strategic and critical infrastructure.
00:21:15.000 But I can certainly confirm that cell phone signals are up, trains are running.
00:21:19.000 You are able to get in and out.
00:21:20.000 But Charlie, going around the city, they understand that they're getting ready for a potential attack.
00:21:25.000 There's bunkers everywhere.
00:21:27.000 There's barricades that are being built right in the city squares on, you know, in front of shopping centers and shopping malls.
00:21:33.000 You see these armed guards everywhere.
00:21:35.000 And by the way, never saw more AK-47s than I've seen in my entire life than when I was in Odessa and Mikhailaev just now.
00:21:43.000 So the question I think a lot of people have is where does this war exactly stand?
00:21:48.000 I mean, there was early attempts for Russia to try to take over Kyiv.
00:21:52.000 I guess that's been unsuccessful.
00:21:54.000 Again, you could spend an hour trying to read news reports and you can't quite figure out where troop formations are.
00:22:00.000 Where does this stand?
00:22:01.000 Is this getting closer to an end or is it still escalating throughout the summer?
00:22:06.000 Well, I think it is escalating throughout the summer.
00:22:08.000 And I think the real, as you stated correctly, that they're pulling those troops or they have pulled those troops away in the north.
00:22:14.000 But in the south and in the east, that's where you're seeing this steady battle of attrition and the steady onward push of Russian forces.
00:22:22.000 So even while we were there, the day we left, we know there was fighting going on just outside the city of Mikolaev and Russian forces getting closer and closer in that region in the south.
00:22:33.000 So it seems as though they've abandoned or maybe it was a feint or some type of deception ploy for this lightning strike on Kyiv.
00:22:42.000 That's been pulled back now.
00:22:43.000 But what we're going in towards is the more traditional Russian form of fighting, where it's the low, slow crawl of the military as they just go town by town, street by street.
00:22:53.000 What kind of casualties do you think have been amounted so far on both sides?
00:22:58.000 This is another thing you can't quite get accurate numbers on in Western press.
00:23:03.000 Right.
00:23:03.000 And that really is a question that, so Zelensky did an interview the other day where he said 60 to 100 soldiers per day are being killed.
00:23:12.000 No, obviously it's Zelensky's side.
00:23:14.000 He's going to downplay that.
00:23:15.000 He's going to play up Russian casualties.
00:23:17.000 And for Russia, the flip side, they're going to downplay Russian casualties and try to exaggerate Ukrainian casualties.
00:23:24.000 But I mean, clearly, thousands and thousands of people have been killed in this thing by now.
00:23:28.000 We know for sure that thousands of POWs are being taken, particularly in that east, in that Donbass, Donetsk, Lugansk region right now, where there was a massive battle just fought over the city of Severodonetsk.
00:23:39.000 And then the city of Mariupol, which is sort of the eastern version of Odessa, if you will.
00:23:44.000 They're the main port on the Sea of Azov on the other side of the Black Sea.
00:23:48.000 That city has now been completely occupied and taken over by Russian forces.
00:23:53.000 How do you see this ending?
00:23:56.000 It's a tough question, right?
00:23:58.000 It really comes down to whether or not there will be.
00:24:00.000 So you have the two schools of thought.
00:24:02.000 We saw this when I was in Davos just before I went to Ukraine, right?
00:24:05.000 One idea was by Kissinger, of all people, right?
00:24:08.000 People call this guy a warmonger, but he actually came out and said, look, let's go for a negotiated settlement.
00:24:14.000 Let's seek rapprochement with Moscow. 0.82
00:24:17.000 Let's seek balance.
00:24:19.000 But then you've got also, everyone's favorite Hungarian billionaire came up at Davos and said, we need to press on until the government of Vladimir Putin is collapsed, until Putin falls and is taken out, right?
00:24:31.000 So two vastly different sides.
00:24:34.000 I don't see any indications that Russia is slowing down their advance, certainly not in the South and in the East.
00:24:40.000 And on the other side, Ukraine, those situations are deteriorating.
00:24:44.000 This $40 billion that Americans particularly, I guess, had sent over or that Biden said he was sending over, I'm not seeing where it is unless it's all the way down at the front lines because I'm not seeing it.
00:24:54.000 But I will tell you this, Charlie, the people down there in Ukraine, what they were selling us was, we want AR-15s, we want AK-47s, and why?
00:25:01.000 Because we want to be able to defend ourselves.
00:25:03.000 So it was kind of an interesting, interesting take because I know back in the U.S., everyone's talking about gun rights and the Second Amendment.
00:25:09.000 Why do we have these things?
00:25:10.000 Why do you need assault rifles?
00:25:12.000 Well, the people of Ukraine will tell you right now, we need these things immediately because we are in danger of losing our sovereignty.
00:25:19.000 Yeah, and that's kind of interesting, right?
00:25:21.000 So Nancy Pelosi is quick to try to send AR-15s over to a foreign land, yet confiscate our own. 1.00
00:25:27.000 Second Amendment is necessary to fight tyranny.
00:25:30.000 God willing, please, it will never happen domestically here, but also potentially foreign.
00:25:35.000 I mean, countries get invaded.
00:25:36.000 Countries can fall apart, unfortunately.
00:25:38.000 Mass chaos is not foreign to humanity, unfortunately.
00:25:42.000 And yet we're quick to try to send weapons internationally, but try to disarm our own population.
00:25:48.000 Why do you think that is?
00:25:50.000 Well, I think it's kind of what, to your point, right?
00:25:52.000 It's the regime in the U.S. realizes that just from a practical perspective, there's too many guns in the U.S. to really do anything about it.
00:26:00.000 And we're not like New Zealand, right?
00:26:02.000 You're not going to have people lining up to turn over their guns if they ever posted anything like that or pass anything like that.
00:26:08.000 So it just wouldn't happen.
00:26:09.000 That's why you've got Trudeau running around screaming that, you know, hyper signaling that he's going to take away all the guns of Canada, all the handguns, right?
00:26:17.000 Joe Biden saying he's going to declare war against nine millimeter ammunition.
00:26:20.000 Because at the end of the day, they know the American people won't actually stand for this, number one.
00:26:25.000 But deep down, they all understand this, that, you know, and people know that I'm a student of Chinese history, Chairman Mao, right?
00:26:34.000 He had it right.
00:26:35.000 Political power grows from the barrel of a gun.
00:26:38.000 It's true in the United States.
00:26:40.000 It's true in Ukraine.
00:26:41.000 It's true in China, right? 1.00
00:26:43.000 Guns and steel.
00:26:44.000 That is where this sovereignty of whether it be the United States, whether it be Ukraine, whether it be Russia, whether it be these various breakaway republics, that's where it's decided on the battlefield.
00:26:54.000 That's number one.
00:26:55.000 Number two, if you want to be able to defend yourself, defend your home, defend your rights, right?
00:27:01.000 That's the entire point of the Second Amendment as well.
00:27:04.000 And there is a huge power play going on right now inside the United States over it.
00:27:08.000 But honestly, I think it's going to be completely fruitless because when push comes to SOV, the ability of people to be able to own individual firearms in the United States is extremely popular.
00:27:19.000 You're never going to see a major push in the United States.
00:27:22.000 And this is a huge difference, by the way, between Americans and Europeans, right?
00:27:26.000 European conservatives aren't really on board with the Second Amendment and the love of guns the way you see in America.
00:27:32.000 It's something I get questioned about a lot when I'm in Europe.
00:27:34.000 It's like, why do you guys care so much?
00:27:36.000 Why do you care so much?
00:27:37.000 Well, right now I can point to Ukraine and say, look, they weren't ready for this.
00:27:40.000 They weren't ready in terms of that.
00:27:42.000 United States could never happen.
00:27:44.000 Well, think about it.
00:27:44.000 I mean, it's conceivable to believe that Vladimir Putin very well might not have invaded if ever Ukraine had an AR-15 in their closet.
00:27:53.000 It's a part of the calculus.
00:27:54.000 It's not that Putin wouldn't have necessarily not have done it, but it would have been now all of a sudden like, hey, I mean, you know, 30 million people.
00:28:01.000 What would have driven up the cost?
00:28:03.000 Right.
00:28:03.000 So 100,000, maybe 100,000 troops wasn't enough.
00:28:05.000 Now you've got to do, now you have to field 200,000 men in the field or 300,000.
00:28:09.000 Now you've got more tanks, more ammo, more gasoline, more, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
00:28:13.000 So if you drive, wars break out when the cost of war is cheaper than the cost of peace, right?
00:28:19.000 So if you can drive up the cost of war in any way possible, like for example, I don't know, arming your populace, then it's more likely that war isn't going to happen.
00:28:28.000 Yeah.
00:28:28.000 And Russia's actually gotten wealthier since this war.
00:28:31.000 The ruble is up.
00:28:33.000 They're making tons of money on the higher price of oil.
00:28:35.000 So they have an inverse incentive structure here, perverse one, I should say.
00:28:40.000 Jack Pesobic from Human Events Daily, brought to you by Turning Point USA.
00:28:44.000 Jack, I want to ask you more about Geneva and your wild scenic tour throughout Europe.
00:28:49.000 And you went everywhere.
00:28:50.000 You went to Budapest, you went to Rome, you went to Geneva, you went to Davos.
00:28:57.000 It's really interesting.
00:28:58.000 It's terrific.
00:28:59.000 And then you said, hey, let's go to Poland.
00:29:02.000 And then you said, hey, let's go to Odessa.
00:29:04.000 I hear it's nice this time of year.
00:29:06.000 Not exactly sure about that, but we're glad you're okay.
00:29:09.000 I mean, if you look at a map, I mean, Jack, you went 600 miles on a night train.
00:29:14.000 I mean, that train could have been intercepted, blown by a mortar shell.
00:29:17.000 You knew that going in there.
00:29:18.000 So that was an act of boldness.
00:29:20.000 We're glad you're okay.
00:29:21.000 Jack, stay right there.
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00:29:40.000 Jack, what happened at the World Health Assembly in Geneva?
00:29:44.000 We covered it extensively.
00:29:45.000 It seemed as if all the amendments failed.
00:29:47.000 Help color in the details for us.
00:29:50.000 Well, Charlie, at the World Health Assembly, right, which is held there in Geneva, Switzerland, concurrently with the World Economic Forum that was going on in Davos, just a few hours across the Alps there.
00:30:01.000 They are pushing forward with this new treaty, essentially a pandemic treaty that would push the sovereignty of our countries at risk because it would allow the World Health Organization to have the ability to declare when there is a pandemic in your country.
00:30:19.000 Now, we know that the IHRs, these were the international health regulations that were promulgated and supported by the Biden administration.
00:30:28.000 In fact, some of them even submitted by the Biden administration.
00:30:31.000 Those are the ones that were going down here at this iteration of the World Health Assembly.
00:30:37.000 But their plans are still in place for a pandemic treaty for by essentially 2024 is their target date for this.
00:30:46.000 And we were looking at it because I remember seeing that some people saying, oh, there was no pandemic treaty.
00:30:51.000 There's nothing to talk about, Charlie.
00:30:52.000 No, they've been holding active open session hearings on this thing.
00:30:57.000 They've been holding discussions on it.
00:30:59.000 And, you know, Tedros will make some of these comments saying as if it's, well, it's, you know, it's just going to be a legally enforceable writ or some type of resolution.
00:31:08.000 No, it's clearly being done under the guise of a treaty.
00:31:12.000 They were trying to slow walk this thing and get it in under the radar.
00:31:15.000 But because so many people, so many of the great people of this program and the other programs out there in this movement have called attention to it.
00:31:23.000 And it's really international, right?
00:31:24.000 Because you're seeing people all across Europe, even the UK speak out against this, that people do not want this treaty to go forward.
00:31:31.000 But the WHO does have, according to the Brownstone Institute, a target date of 2024 to have something in place.
00:31:39.000 So it didn't pass in this assembly, but they're going to try again in November.
00:31:42.000 Is that right?
00:31:44.000 They're going to be trying again for the next couple of years.
00:31:47.000 It's funny because this initially started, I didn't realize this at first, but this initially started because of the criticisms of China and the fact that the CCP at the beginning of this pandemic wasn't being forthcoming with their information about COVID-19, the origins.
00:32:02.000 And if you remember, Charlie, even early on, they were lying to the WHO about human-to-human spread, about so many different types of the ability of COVID-19 just to infect people, right?
00:32:13.000 We have the mass debates and the vaccine mandate debates now, but early on, they were saying that humans couldn't even infect other humans with this thing.
00:32:20.000 So the idea for a pandemic treaty supposedly was inculcated as an idea to get around that problem: what happens if you have an epidemic that's breaking out in one country that isn't being reported and then the WHO trigger system can't go in place the way these organizations are supposed to work.
00:32:37.000 But instead, once they opened up the Pandora's box of saying we're going to have international regulations and international controls for the WHO, now, just like everything else, just like you would see in Washington, D.C. with one of these things, people are adding everything they can to this thing because they want to empower the WHO far more than any of our own elected national governments.
00:33:02.000 Keep in mind, this isn't just for the United States.
00:33:04.000 This is for the 194 member nations of the WHO.
00:33:09.000 It's extraordinary.
00:33:10.000 So the team is pressuring me very hard to talk about a very controversial topic of which I couldn't care less about.
00:33:16.000 Johnny Depp and Amanda Heard.
00:33:18.000 You have a hot take on this, Jack?
00:33:19.000 Is that right?
00:33:20.000 Oh, is the thing out yet?
00:33:22.000 Did they have the verdict?
00:33:23.000 I don't know.
00:33:24.000 No, not yet.
00:33:24.000 Everyone's watching it on pins and needles.
00:33:26.000 Charlie, here's the way I look at it.
00:33:28.000 I think it's a red pill in a sense, because when you look at these situations, right, this is the end result of the Me Too movement, right?
00:33:36.000 This idea that all men should be, you know, all men are the villains and that all women should be believed without having any evidence, without having any proof, any due process, any investigation whatsoever.
00:33:50.000 We saw it with Kavanaugh, we saw it with Trump again and again.
00:33:53.000 And even more so beyond women, right? 0.88
00:33:57.000 It's also this idea of false accusations and how damaging they can be to someone's career.
00:34:02.000 But on another level, folks, I just want to say this.
00:34:05.000 I would say this to Prince Harry out there.
00:34:07.000 I would say it to people like Johnny Depp.
00:34:09.000 If you are with somebody like an Amber Heard or a Megan Markle, who has all the red flags in the world, do not think you can fix them.
00:34:19.000 You need to walk away, boys.
00:34:21.000 You need to walk away and walk away fast.
00:34:23.000 Don't end up with Johnny Depp because believe me, you don't got pockets like he does.
00:34:28.000 They will take you to the cleaners and leave you with nothing.
00:34:31.000 That is a red flag law I could get behind. 0.99
00:34:35.000 That's one red flag law.
00:34:37.000 We'll have to see if Dr. Oz is up for that one.
00:34:39.000 Jack Bisobic, everybody.
00:34:41.000 Human Events Daily does a great job.
00:34:42.000 He survived Ukraine.
00:34:43.000 Geneva, Davos, Budapest in Rome.
00:34:46.000 He's special.
00:34:47.000 Thank you, Jack.
00:34:48.000 Appreciate it.
00:34:49.000 Appreciate it, Charlie.
00:34:49.000 Take care, man.
00:34:50.000 Thank you, guys.
00:34:51.000 Thank you so much for listening, everybody.
00:34:52.000 Email me your thoughts as alwaysfreedom at charliekirk.com.
00:34:55.000 Thank you so much for listening.
00:34:56.000 God bless.
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