The Charlie Kirk Show - May 19, 2025


Joe Biden's Cancer Coverup?


Episode Stats

Length

34 minutes

Words per Minute

167.7344

Word Count

5,812

Sentence Count

490

Misogynist Sentences

2

Hate Speech Sentences

8


Summary

Biden's mental decline, the Robert Hur tapes, and more! Recorded in London, England. Charlie gives an update of why he's thankful to be an American, and then we cover the Biden tapes, the Prostate Cancer diagnosis, and much more.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, Charlie Kirk here, live from the Bitcoin.com studio.
00:00:04.000 Live from London, I give you an update of why I'm thankful to be an American.
00:00:08.000 And then we cover the Biden her tapes.
00:00:11.000 And the prostate cancer diagnosis and more.
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00:01:30.000 Okay, everybody, radio stations across the country, should I say across the world, honored to be with you as always.
00:01:36.000 I believe this is our first ever broadcast internationally, definitely our first ever broadcast across the ocean.
00:01:43.000 We are in Europe.
00:01:44.000 We're in London right now, and we are doing lots of different things.
00:01:49.000 I'm debating in Cambridge momentarily, actually, and then tomorrow I will be debating at the Oxford Union.
00:01:58.000 So we are here on the front lines debating on the issues that matter most that are pressing on Western civilization.
00:02:07.000 Tonight I'll be doing an open mic Q&A format.
00:02:11.000 And then on Tuesday I will be doing two debates at the Oxford Union.
00:02:15.000 Great honor and lots to...
00:02:19.000 We'll be doing our show live here later in the program.
00:02:22.000 We have Mike Davis and we have Alex Marlowe.
00:02:25.000 We also have Senator Eric Schmidt joining the show, the great senator from the state of Missouri.
00:02:31.000 And I want to dive in, of course, with the news that happened over the weekend.
00:02:35.000 Two points of news that are noteworthy and are very important.
00:02:38.000 The first of which is that we finally got our hands on the Robert Hur tapes.
00:02:44.000 Now, remember...
00:02:45.000 Robert Herr was investigating Joe Biden for his mishandling of classified documents.
00:02:54.000 Joe Biden mishandled classified documents allegedly by putting the documents in the garage, and none of us were really that overly animated about it if it meant that Donald Trump simultaneously was also not going to be indicted for similar charges for the January 6th-related The more interesting part of this,
00:03:22.000 though, and remember they recommended no charges for Joe Biden.
00:03:25.000 Remember when Robert Herr wrote this report, this scathing report, saying that Joe Biden does not have the mental acuity to be president.
00:03:32.000 Now, we've known this, and what I'm about to tell you is without a doubt one of the most egregious, one of the most outrageous examples of not just media bias, but intentional, And repeated media malpractice in American history.
00:03:51.000 We get asked all the time by members of the media, why do you guys not trust us?
00:03:57.000 Where does this come from?
00:03:58.000 This right here is why the American people, why the media far too often has become the enemy of the people.
00:04:06.000 Remember, her said that Biden would just seem like a forgetful old grandfather.
00:04:11.000 So that's why he wasn't worth indicting.
00:04:13.000 He was essentially too old and too feeble to prosecute.
00:04:17.000 This guy's barely living, is basically what Robert Hurst said.
00:04:21.000 And the media told those of us that noticed Joe Biden's mental decline for years that you are wrong, that you are spreading myths and disinformation.
00:04:32.000 People were smeared and canceled and silenced because we saw it in right-wing circles because we actually saw the videos.
00:04:41.000 Publicly, where Joe Biden was unable to mutter sentences.
00:04:46.000 And the media, I would say they should be ashamed of themselves, but I don't even know if they're capable of feeling shame that requires some form of self-awareness, that requires the media to have some sort of understanding that they should be in the pursuit of truth, but not in the pursuit of power.
00:05:02.000 What I'm about to play for you here should take your breath away.
00:05:07.000 This guy was President of the United States.
00:05:11.000 There are so many questions here, the first of which is, who is running the country?
00:05:16.000 The second which is, why were we not able to get these tapes last year?
00:05:23.000 The New York Times in June of 2024 said Biden was being smeared by misleading videos.
00:05:29.000 That's what we were being told.
00:05:30.000 We were being told that misleading videos were smearing Joe Biden's character in presidency.
00:05:41.000 That you're a right-wing disinformation artist.
00:05:44.000 And the media did not cover it.
00:05:46.000 In fact, they covered it up.
00:05:48.000 The media actively covered it up.
00:05:50.000 And I'm going to connect all the stories together because also, breaking yesterday was Joe Biden's prostate cancer diagnosis.
00:05:59.000 I don't wish that upon him.
00:06:00.000 I actually don't want my political adversaries and enemies to get sick and to die.
00:06:04.000 We all die eventually.
00:06:06.000 But let's be honest.
00:06:07.000 The cancer announcement.
00:06:10.000 Is, of course, directly correlated as a cover-up because of these her tapes.
00:06:16.000 They were waiting to announce the news of Joe Biden's cancer diagnosis because of what you are about to hear.
00:06:25.000 Hold your breath.
00:06:26.000 This guy was president of the United States.
00:06:29.000 Playcut 186.
00:06:30.000 Where did you keep papers that related to those things that you were actively working on?
00:06:38.000 I don't know.
00:06:41.000 This is, what, 2017, 18, that period?
00:06:46.000 Yes, sir.
00:06:48.000 Remember, in this time frame, my son has either been deployed or is dying.
00:06:58.000 And so, it was...
00:07:08.000 And by the way, there were still a lot of people at the time when I got out of the Senate that were encouraging me to run in this period, except the president.
00:07:22.000 Now, it was beyond struggling to say the basic timelines.
00:07:26.000 This guy was president of the United States?
00:07:29.000 And also, some of the media is like, well, we never knew because of these tapes.
00:07:33.000 I mean, these tapes are really bad.
00:07:38.000 Like, Joe Biden publicly is just about as bad as we just heard on this, her tape.
00:07:45.000 They knew how bad this was.
00:07:47.000 But the media hated Donald Trump so much.
00:07:50.000 The media hated our conservative movement so much that they were adamant that Joe Biden should continue as president of the United States, regardless of the fact that he could not be president.
00:08:04.000 And then, breaking yesterday, play cut 179.
00:08:08.000 Breaking news out of the White House about former President Joe Biden.
00:08:11.000 His office just revealed that the 46th president is diagnosed with an aggressive form of prostate cancer.
00:08:18.000 So they announced that Joe Biden has prostate cancer two days after the Hur reports.
00:08:24.000 Everybody, they were running this man for re-election less than 10 months ago.
00:08:33.000 They're saying that the prostate cancer has metastasized straight to the bone.
00:08:38.000 Sorry to hear that.
00:08:40.000 Prostate cancer is notoriously very, very slow moving.
00:08:46.000 This is another one of Joe Biden's piece of conversation with Robert Herr.
00:08:51.000 Play cut 196.
00:08:53.000 And what's happened in the meantime.
00:08:56.000 Is that Trump gets elected in November of 2017?
00:09:03.000 2016.
00:09:03.000 2016.
00:09:04.000 2016.
00:09:05.000 All right.
00:09:07.000 So...
00:09:08.000 Why did I have 2017 here?
00:09:13.000 That's when you left office in January of 2017.
00:09:16.000 Yeah, okay.
00:09:20.000 But that's when Trump gets sworn in.
00:09:22.000 Right, right, correct.
00:09:27.000 And in 2017, Bo had passed.
00:09:35.000 He keeps thinking that Donald Trump was elected in 2017, and they keep on correcting him.
00:09:41.000 And look, we have to get to a break here, but how many times does he have to mention the fact that Bo Biden was dying?
00:09:47.000 Was this just a clutch, a crutch, I should say, that he was using?
00:09:54.000 At every corner and every single turn?
00:09:56.000 Beau Biden died in 2015.
00:10:01.000 We know that Joe Biden did not have the mental faculties.
00:10:03.000 I said this to the face of reporters for years, and they said, oh, no, no, you're just a right-wing extremist.
00:10:09.000 And these reporters actively covered up one of the greatest scandals in American history.
00:10:17.000 Praise the Lord we ever really get through it and get President Donald Trump elected.
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00:11:12.000 Okay, everybody, welcome back.
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00:11:22.000 We are here live.
00:11:24.000 I know we're having some tech issues.
00:11:29.000 Let's see if Senator Eric Schmidt can hear me or not.
00:11:32.000 I sure hope so.
00:11:33.000 Senator Schmidt, welcome to the program.
00:11:36.000 Thank you for your patience.
00:11:37.000 How are you doing today?
00:11:38.000 I'm good.
00:11:39.000 By the way, do you have some pre-debate routine you do?
00:11:43.000 Do you have a certain number of push-ups or something?
00:11:46.000 What's the protocol, Charlie?
00:11:48.000 Well, you know, it's interesting.
00:11:51.000 I try to eat very clean.
00:11:53.000 You've got to get your sleep.
00:11:54.000 It's very important.
00:11:55.000 I always like to have a banana.
00:11:57.000 I do like to work out and go for a walk.
00:12:00.000 And then there is the secret, secret weapon.
00:12:03.000 Hydration.
00:12:04.000 Almost every study shows that if you are hydrated, you think more clearly, your brain relaxes.
00:12:10.000 So try to drink a lot of water.
00:12:12.000 The only downside, and when I do these three-hour campus debates, of which I want to come to the University of Missouri and do that, when I overly hydrate, I've got to sit there for three hours.
00:12:20.000 I've got to use the restroom.
00:12:21.000 Pretty terrible.
00:12:23.000 We're in the big leagues at Oxford and Cambridge.
00:12:26.000 You are.
00:12:27.000 You're like our American intellectual prize fighter.
00:12:30.000 We're pulling for you.
00:12:33.000 That's funny.
00:12:34.000 I have to write down the full routine.
00:12:36.000 It's a great question.
00:12:38.000 But thank you for joining the program.
00:12:40.000 You're awesome and doing great work.
00:12:42.000 So I want to just first get your reaction to these Robert Herr tapes and the cover-up of Joe Biden's health and his mental frailty.
00:12:53.000 Obviously, we're sorry to hear the news about that he has prostate cancer.
00:12:57.000 We don't wish that upon anybody.
00:12:59.000 This timing of when they dropped the news is awfully suspicious.
00:13:01.000 But who was running the...
00:13:04.000 It's a great question.
00:13:06.000 And we ought to, honestly, we ought to have hearings about this because I was the first senator to call for that constitutional process to go into play to remove him because he was clearly not competent.
00:13:19.000 Anybody with a half a brain could see that.
00:13:22.000 And when the Hurt tapes came, they never released actually the audio of the tapes, but you got to remember, you go back when they interviewed him, it was about the documents that were, of course, stored in his garage.
00:13:32.000 We're Hunter Biden, who, you know, had all sorts of dealings with other countries and potentially a drug addict was living in that house at the same time those documents were in the garage.
00:13:45.000 The only reason they didn't charge him was because they didn't think he was competent to stand trial.
00:13:51.000 So, I mean, all these things were happening at once.
00:13:53.000 Anybody could see it.
00:13:54.000 And if his debate performance...
00:13:57.000 Wouldn't have been as bad as it was, and I was in the spin room with Rubio and Vance and others, and you could see it playing in real time like everybody else.
00:14:03.000 If it wouldn't have been so bad, they would have literally continued to keep him propped up just so they could have another four years.
00:14:09.000 It was all about power and control, and this sort of come-to-Jesus moment that they're all having now is so phony, because they knew it.
00:14:16.000 But who was running the country?
00:14:18.000 It's a great question.
00:14:19.000 A lot of people have different theories.
00:14:21.000 But, you know, it was being run by Autopen, but who was hidden?
00:14:24.000 Who was hit and go?
00:14:26.000 We ought to figure that out.
00:14:27.000 Yeah, and it's also just this question of what form and structure of government did we have and do we have, which is, if you can have a president who does not know what year he took office, who does not know what year he left office as vice president, does not know what year President Trump actually got elected,
00:14:42.000 and the country can still quote-unquote run, then is the president nothing more than a kind of ceremonial figurehead?
00:14:52.000 Well, listen, this is what we're fighting against, Charlie.
00:14:55.000 I'm glad you sort of framed it like that.
00:14:58.000 We're fighting against this managerial and administrative state that was created really about 100 years ago with Woodrow Wilson, who...
00:15:05.000 Prior to Joe Biden, I think, was the worst president we've ever had in this country.
00:15:09.000 Their dream, the progressives' dream, was to have a government run by experts.
00:15:13.000 And so when COVID happened, kind of the veil went down, and you could see what they really wanted.
00:15:19.000 It wasn't about elected leadership.
00:15:20.000 It was about Lord Fauci and these other quote-unquote experts who knew better than everybody else.
00:15:26.000 So this idea of we the people, they would love to get rid of that, and they would love to get rid of that accountability and have this sort of permanent Washington.
00:15:34.000 The managerial class run everything.
00:15:37.000 And so this is what they had going.
00:15:39.000 And why, you know, people were attacked so viciously if you, quote unquote, question the science or you ask questions about who was running the country at the time because they got exactly what they wanted.
00:15:50.000 But that's why it's so important for President Trump to have won and for him to have gotten his cabinet appointees approved who are reformers who want to disrupt what we've seen over the last...
00:16:05.000 I love that.
00:16:13.000 I'm going to keep you for another segment, Senator.
00:16:14.000 And this is one of the most important fundamental structural issues.
00:16:18.000 And understand that a deep state bureaucracy running the government is not just an American problem.
00:16:24.000 I am here in London, and I just met with Liz Truss, former prime minister.
00:16:29.000 And she said, we have an entire bureaucracy that runs the government.
00:16:32.000 That there is this clash between the sovereign, the people, and the deep state.
00:16:36.000 This worldview has enveloped the entire Western world.
00:16:39.000 The difference is that our Constitution was supposed to prevent it.
00:16:44.000 And now it is the people versus the administrative class.
00:16:47.000 Back with Senator Schmidt in just a second.
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00:17:50.000 Senator Eric Schmidt continues with us here.
00:17:53.000 So I want to now shift gears for a second and talk about the reconciliation bill and kind of where that is standing and the one big beautiful bill.
00:18:03.000 Senator, admittedly, there are so many people talking past each other right now.
00:18:08.000 The White House has a certain opinion and stance, and there's so much good in this bill.
00:18:12.000 I spent about 40 minutes reading this bill.
00:18:15.000 It takes you longer than 40 minutes, but...
00:18:17.000 You could basically get the main components of it on Friday.
00:18:21.000 For example, there's an amazing thing in the bill of taxing of remittances, which will basically financially and economically make illegal immigration untenable, which is the money that people send back.
00:18:33.000 To their home and native countries.
00:18:35.000 It's the largest investment in border security in American history.
00:18:39.000 No tax on tips.
00:18:40.000 No tax on overtime.
00:18:42.000 We're going to see across the board tax cuts.
00:18:45.000 Drill baby drill.
00:18:47.000 And also the repeal of a lot of Joe Biden's Inflation Reduction Act nonsense.
00:18:52.000 But Senator, do you believe that it cuts discretionary spending enough?
00:18:56.000 Senator?
00:18:56.000 I don't.
00:18:57.000 And that's, I think, where the...
00:18:59.000 Where the rubber's really going to meet the road.
00:19:01.000 It's also got some great school choice provisions in it, which are, you know, at the end of the day, we can tout.
00:19:07.000 But I do think, here's how I look at it, and I think we've talked about it before.
00:19:11.000 Normally, when you do an appropriations bill, or even a continuing resolution, or even these ridiculous omnibuses, it takes 60 votes in the United States Senate, right?
00:19:20.000 So the Republicans that want to spend more money...
00:19:23.000 We are hunting for working with Democrats who want to spend more money.
00:19:27.000 And that's how you get to the 60 votes.
00:19:29.000 And that's why spending typically continues to go up and up.
00:19:32.000 This is different in the sense that you only need 51 votes in the United States Senate.
00:19:38.000 So we do have a real chance to reset the amount of money that we're spending every year.
00:19:44.000 That's how I look at it.
00:19:45.000 It's historic to deliver on President Trump's promises.
00:19:48.000 And by the way, he's talked about having a balanced budget himself.
00:19:52.000 I really believe if we're serious about spending reform here, we can get there by the end of his term, because if you just get to pre-pandemic spending levels, plus population growth, plus inflation, and you hold that line for a couple of years, revenues will catch up and you'll have a balanced budget.
00:20:09.000 That's how I see it.
00:20:10.000 I do hope that they get a little bit more serious about the spending reforms over in the House.
00:20:15.000 That's what I want to see in the Senate, too.
00:20:17.000 And I think that's what's kind of going on behind the scenes right now.
00:20:20.000 They're continuing to move that process forward.
00:20:22.000 The Budget Committee passed it out, I think, last night.
00:20:24.000 So this will be a big week for where the House actually lands.
00:20:29.000 So all this conversation about SALT stuff, that, to me, whatever.
00:20:34.000 I don't...
00:20:34.000 That's not a big deal to me.
00:20:36.000 I know it is the people, you know, the reps in New York and in California.
00:20:40.000 Well, hold on.
00:20:41.000 Let me tell you why it's not a big deal.
00:20:43.000 It's not a big deal because Missouri largely has its act together.
00:20:48.000 And you guys don't extract 10% of your citizens' income every year to fund a bloated social welfare bureaucracy.
00:20:56.000 And that's where I'm torn.
00:20:57.000 I'm not torn, but why I'm against the...
00:21:00.000 The SALT thing, which is it's an indirect subsidy of the failed pension system of New York, the failed public sector teacher unions of Chicago.
00:21:10.000 It's an indirect federal subsidy that do not make these states get their house in order.
00:21:15.000 Senator, unfortunately though, what we've seen since the SALT deduction Is these states, when we got rid of it with Trump, these states did not get their act together.
00:21:24.000 But you could make an argument, and I know that the New Yorkers don't want to hear it.
00:21:28.000 I know the Californians don't want to hear it.
00:21:29.000 But once we got rid of salt, I think a lot of Republicans or smart people that want to pay lower taxes left the blue states.
00:21:48.000 What are some of the other interesting nuggets of good stuff in this bill that you want to make sure remains?
00:21:56.000 Well, you've got even on the defense side, right?
00:21:58.000 And so you put me in the category.
00:21:59.000 I did a thing with Politico.
00:22:01.000 They had me as a MAGA Republican, this American realist.
00:22:05.000 There's like a zoo animal they like poking.
00:22:07.000 So I did an interview with them in their defense forum last week.
00:22:10.000 And just said, look, the days of us being everywhere all at once all the time, it's not realistic.
00:22:15.000 President Trump, I think, gave a great speech in Saudi Arabia.
00:22:18.000 Maybe one of the great presidential speeches I've heard.
00:22:21.000 I've never heard a president articulate that vision on the world stage like he did.
00:22:24.000 And it's long past time.
00:22:26.000 We've squandered that inheritance.
00:22:27.000 Nobody ever adjusted 30 years ago.
00:22:29.000 Now President Trump is.
00:22:30.000 So you've got some...
00:22:32.000 You've got some real opportunities in the defense side for the Golden Dome, for procurement reform.
00:22:37.000 You mentioned the border.
00:22:39.000 It would help accelerate deportations with the dollars, because they're adding more people under expedited removal.
00:22:46.000 You don't actually need to go through all the hearings that the Democrats are calling for through expedited removal.
00:22:53.000 That's people who have been here for less than two years.
00:22:54.000 It adds more money for that, so you can process more people more quickly.
00:22:58.000 So, on the border side, on the defense side, And then on the energy side, I think it really kind of ratchets up the good stuff.
00:23:05.000 Pulls back some of the Inflation Reduction Act stuff that was really wasteful.
00:23:08.000 So all in all, all the stuff we want to do, that's good.
00:23:12.000 But I do think there's still a lot of room to have more spending reform.
00:23:16.000 So again, we just can't keep spending $2 trillion we don't have every year.
00:23:21.000 It's not sustainable.
00:23:23.000 It's just not sustainable.
00:23:24.000 So I think that's where things are at right now.
00:23:27.000 But there's a lot of great stuff.
00:23:28.000 I mentioned the school choice.
00:23:30.000 You had mentioned a few of those things already.
00:23:32.000 There's a lot of provisions in there that...
00:23:43.000 So, yeah.
00:23:44.000 And where would you say is the ripest for spending reform that we should emphasize?
00:23:50.000 And secondly, I don't know where you stand on this.
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00:23:55.000 Praise the Lord.
00:23:56.000 We are on the higher income earner.
00:23:59.000 I'm not, like, I don't want to pay more in taxes, obviously.
00:24:03.000 I think I pay way too much in taxes.
00:24:05.000 But if I have to pay 3% more in taxes, and you guys are able to cut a trillion dollar in spending to make the math work, I don't think we should be overly ideological about it.
00:24:17.000 And because the math is so compelling that if we raise taxes by 2% on high-income earners, that could actually offset some of the tax cuts for no tax on tips.
00:24:27.000 Is that still being entertained?
00:24:29.000 I know Speaker Johnson removed it.
00:24:31.000 The one thing we should be ideological about is not having America go bankrupt above and beyond all.
00:24:38.000 Again, I'm not asking Congress to raise my taxes, but I can say as someone who would see my taxes go up, I would be okay with it if we get serious spending cuts and if it gets us on a path towards a balanced budget.
00:24:51.000 Has that been dismissed?
00:24:52.000 Is that idea still alive?
00:24:54.000 Please, Senator, your thoughts.
00:24:56.000 Yeah, I think, look, the truth of the matter is, and let's just take Medicaid, for example.
00:25:01.000 If you do work requirements, if you have regular audits to make sure the people who are actually receiving the benefits, and there are people, we've made a decision, and I agree with it, the people who cannot help themselves in particular, people with, you know...
00:25:14.000 Individuals with disabilities, poor kids.
00:25:17.000 Absolutely, that should be a safety net that we need to strengthen in many ways.
00:25:20.000 And I think there's efforts to do that.
00:25:22.000 But people who are able-bodied ought to be working.
00:25:25.000 And I don't think that's controversial.
00:25:27.000 But we don't do that now.
00:25:28.000 So that's one way that you can provide some savings and I think re-secure that network for the people who need it most.
00:25:36.000 But also, and Ron Johnson's talked a lot about this.
00:25:39.000 You know, if you went through individually, and I hope that we do this because we got to get this right.
00:25:45.000 Like I said, I don't know that we'll get another chance in it.
00:25:47.000 This is my third year in the Senate.
00:25:48.000 It could be the only time in my time in the Senate we ever get this opportunity through reconciliation with the trifecta.
00:25:54.000 If you just go back, we were spending $4 trillion before the pandemic in 2019.
00:25:58.000 We spent $7 trillion.
00:26:00.000 We take in $5 trillion.
00:26:01.000 If you could just go back and say, you know what?
00:26:05.000 The COVID spending, or I should say the IRA, the ARCA money, all that ARPA money, that blew the lid off of.
00:26:13.000 Let's go back, and if you look at what Doge is doing, Charlie, a lot of what they're doing when they talk about reducing the number of employees in departments like at Veterans Affairs, they're just talking about getting back to where we were four years ago, right, to make it more manageable and deliver great service.
00:26:27.000 So I think if you were a little bit more...
00:26:29.000 I'm precise about that.
00:26:31.000 There's a lot of savings that can be found.
00:26:33.000 But I talked to President Trump on Saturday.
00:26:36.000 I never divulge private conversations, but he's talked about this publicly.
00:26:40.000 You know, what we're seeing with some of the revenue...
00:26:43.000 That he's instituted with the tariffs.
00:26:45.000 That is sort of a part of this calculation, too.
00:26:49.000 And ultimately, the vision is to get to a place where we have external revenue to the point where you can eliminate the income tax for people making it for $200,000 a year.
00:26:57.000 That's a massive shift.
00:26:58.000 So we talked about this progressive form of government that was really instituted 100 years ago.
00:27:03.000 President Trump's going after all those assumptions, right?
00:27:06.000 He's saying that...
00:27:07.000 That the income tax, as it's been created and evolved over 100 years, really punishes work and working families.
00:27:13.000 We've had the jobs that have been shipped overseas because of our terrible trade policy.
00:27:17.000 We've had a foreign policy that wasn't adjusted in 30 years because, you know, we squandered this inheritance.
00:27:22.000 People didn't adjust.
00:27:23.000 It was meant to kind of get our allies back on their feet in Europe and Japan.
00:27:26.000 And we never said, hey, maybe you need to start ponying up from your own defense.
00:27:30.000 I think if you do all those things, you have energy.
00:27:33.000 You have this regulatory reform.
00:27:36.000 We're going to see a lot of savings.
00:27:37.000 And again, the goal of balancing the budget.
00:27:39.000 That's my goal.
00:27:40.000 And I think that's President Trump's goal, too.
00:27:42.000 Senator, thank you so much for your time.
00:27:43.000 Really appreciate it.
00:27:45.000 Sorry we couldn't go deeper into some of this, but thank you for the great work.
00:27:48.000 And thank you for fighting hard for the country and for Missouri.
00:27:53.000 Senator, thank you so much.
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00:29:04.000 Okay, everybody, welcome back.
00:29:05.000 Email us, as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:29:08.000 So I'm here live in London.
00:29:09.000 I want to just give you a little update here.
00:29:11.000 There's some really exciting things happening.
00:29:14.000 And simultaneously, there are incredible troubling things that makes me, every time I come to the UK, I'm just so thankful to be an American.
00:29:23.000 They've got so many problems here.
00:29:24.000 And they have cultural problems alongside political problems.
00:29:28.000 So firstly, the good news.
00:29:31.000 Some of the by-elections here in London, Nigel Farage's Reform Party is doing very, very well.
00:29:38.000 Everybody I'm talking to who knows what...
00:29:42.000 They're saying Nigel Farage is the favorite to become the next Prime Minister of the UK.
00:29:47.000 They say the Reform Party is ascendant.
00:29:51.000 They say that the old Conservative Party is dead and they were not Conservatives at all.
00:29:55.000 And the Reform Party is the new opposition party.
00:29:58.000 That they are gaining momentum.
00:30:00.000 They are gaining strength.
00:30:02.000 And honestly, we are Nigel Farage's biggest fan as they are trying to continue to do that.
00:30:08.000 So straight from the front lines here, there is a Movement that is afoot.
00:30:12.000 But what is needed here is the grassroots.
00:30:14.000 And we just sat down with Liz Truss and her team.
00:30:18.000 We were talking about this.
00:30:19.000 She was the Prime Minister back in 2022 for a little while.
00:30:21.000 And there is a fundamental issue in the UK.
00:30:27.000 And it's both a cultural one and it is a political one.
00:30:34.000 The United Kingdom, Britain, England gave us our free speech ancestry.
00:30:39.000 Free speech came from the UK.
00:30:43.000 The UK has decided to no longer embrace a culture of freedom of speech or dialogue.
00:30:47.000 They have the misinformation and disinformation police.
00:30:50.000 Did you know that 30 people a day, according to the Telegraph, are arrested for inflammatory social media posts?
00:31:01.000 Knocks on your door.
00:31:03.000 30 people a day in the United Kingdom.
00:31:07.000 Do you know that Britain, Had the same GDP per capita as the United States of America in 2008.
00:31:15.000 Now, the UK is substantially poorer than the United States of America as a GDP per capita.
00:31:23.000 The UK embraced this nonsense of a nation of immigrants.
00:31:27.000 Do you know every part of the UK except London is behind our poorest state in America, Mississippi?
00:31:34.000 And we love Mississippi.
00:31:35.000 It's just a poor state.
00:31:36.000 Every single part of the UK.
00:31:38.000 The UK is a very, very poor country with a very, very rich city, London.
00:31:45.000 The rest of the UK is extremely poor.
00:31:51.000 There is an opportunity here, but to be perfectly honest, if you do not have a culture that embraces freedom of speech, that embraces dialogue, Then you're not able to solve your other political problems.
00:32:06.000 It is a first principle truth.
00:32:08.000 If you are not able to complain, call out, challenge, power, if you're not able to persuade people, if you're not able to ridicule your leaders, then how are you actually ever going to fix all of the other problems?
00:32:23.000 In fact, I was just driving in a car and I said to my driver, I said, you guys got, you've imported way too many Muslims into this country.
00:32:29.000 And they're like, did you just say that?
00:32:31.000 I'm like, yeah.
00:32:33.000 You guys have way too many Mohammedans in your country.
00:32:36.000 You see, they're thinking it, but the spoken word is what's important.
00:32:42.000 Because they're afraid that they might get a knock on the door.
00:32:45.000 Or it's very unseemly, from British standards, to say such things.
00:32:50.000 They're a little gun-shy.
00:32:52.000 Free speech is a cornerstone of a vibrant country.
00:32:58.000 And I'm sorry, when I'm walking down to Piccadilly Square...
00:33:02.000 And every other shop has Arabic.
00:33:06.000 When I go see a cafe and every woman is fully in a hijab, that's not Britain.
00:33:15.000 That's something else.
00:33:15.000 You might want that.
00:33:17.000 You might think that's a good thing, but it's something else.
00:33:20.000 That is not the United Kingdom.
00:33:23.000 The spoken word is the catalyst for creation.
00:33:27.000 God spoke creation into being.
00:33:29.000 Speech is powerful.
00:33:30.000 In the beginning was the word, as it says in John 1, which is the logos.
00:33:33.000 It is the spoken word, not the thought, not just the internalized truth.
00:33:40.000 You must speak it and it becomes material reality.
00:33:44.000 I will say, though, that if the stars align, based on my conversation with the grassroots here and the drivers and the cabbies, And the working folk, there is a political revolution waiting to happen in the UK.
00:34:00.000 You need someone with courage, and I think Farage is that person.
00:34:03.000 You need a series of influencers.
00:34:05.000 Things need to start breaking their way.
00:34:06.000 I'm telling you right now, there could be a political revolution like the Trump one.
00:34:10.000 And they're just looking for their Trump in some way.
00:34:13.000 And it could be Nigel Farage.
00:34:15.000 And the Reform Party is doing very, very well.
00:34:18.000 But they need to start speaking out more.
00:34:20.000 And not carrying the social cost.
00:34:22.000 Ooh, I don't want to be called a racist by the London Times.
00:34:25.000 Who cares?
00:34:26.000 That's so 2008 around America.
00:34:30.000 Speak the truth, regardless of cost.
00:34:32.000 You can take back Britain.
00:34:34.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
00:34:35.000 Email us, as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:34:37.000 Thanks so much for listening.
00:34:39.000 God bless.