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00:01:27.000We got a primary here in Minnesota, a contentious primary for myself, also a controversial one down there in CD5 with Ilhan Omar.
00:01:35.000Over the last couple of days, I've encouraged Minneapolis residents, people who are in Ilhan's congressional district to cross over and vote for her primary opponent who only lost by 2,000 votes in the 2022 midterm and cast their vote for Don Samuels.
00:01:51.000If you're down in CD5, please do not circle my name and Don Samuel's name on the ballot, which you would be able to do.
00:01:59.000Hopefully your polling person will tell you not to, but that would make your ballot invalid.
00:02:13.000So Tim Walz is the vice presidential nominee for the Democrat Party.
00:02:18.000What should we know about him coming from your home state?
00:02:21.000Well, I mean, you know, the obvious, the things that people have covered over the last couple of weeks, the tampons in the boys' bathroom, the situation after George Floyd in 2020.
00:02:32.000But the most important things, I think, are some that are going to remain, you know, relatively hidden or less talked about.
00:02:38.000Having an $18 billion surplus in the state and not giving a single penny back to the working class citizens is communism.
00:02:48.000And that's what this ticket is going to be.
00:02:50.000They're going to take your money and they won't give a single penny back, even when they're ahead.
00:02:54.000And the other thing that I think people need to be aware of, especially in the black community, because Minnesota, again, is going to become ground zero for a racial narrative that the Democrats are going to serve the interests of black people and minorities.
00:03:05.000But the truth about Minnesota, we have one of the worst racial disparity gaps in our education system for the entire country.
00:03:13.000Our greater Minnesota public education system, although Marxist to boot, is considered one of the highest rated and best in the entire country.
00:03:23.000In the inner cities, in Minneapolis and in St.
00:03:25.000Paul, we have the second worst proficiency rating in the entire country.
00:03:29.000So one of the worst racial disparity gaps in our education.
00:03:32.000That's who Governor Tim Walz has been, and that's who the Democrats will be for black people and minorities in this country.
00:03:37.000Inflation and rising prices is crushing black America.
00:04:39.000Well, you know, I don't like to pat myself on the back because there's nothing really glorious about being right when something is so wrong.
00:04:46.000But this is exactly why I led people to the Federal Reserve, the Minneapolis Federal Reserve, after George Floyd died.
00:04:53.000Your problems aren't down at the first police precinct.
00:04:56.000Your problems are monetary policy, economic policy, and inflation, which is a byproduct of government policies, not organic, no matter what these economic elites and experts try and tell you.
00:05:06.000Yeah, inflation is crushing us all, this entire country.
00:05:09.000But black people may be first and foremost.
00:05:11.000And now they get a chance to vote for a candidate like myself, and also Donald Trump, who understands those hardships.
00:05:17.000So we're confident in this entire election cycle.
00:05:19.000Royce White, I know your primary is today.
00:05:22.000Everyone in Minnesota, get out to the polls.
00:05:44.000I can count on one hand the number of people, honestly, who seem to give a rip about this.
00:05:49.000I mean, this is getting to be, frankly, catastrophic.
00:05:52.000To put this in perspective, we are spending more just to service the debt, not pay it down, just pay the interest we're talking about here.
00:05:59.000That's costing more than all military spending than the entire defense budget.
00:06:04.000This is becoming a national security issue.
00:06:07.000We are at a point where more than a quarter of all tax revenue is being consumed just by interest payments.
00:06:14.000I mean, at what point do we have to say, all right, the government can't afford ships planes, artillery shells, etc.
00:06:21.000The government can't afford to pave roads, to build bridges, whatever the case may be, fund social security.
00:06:28.000We can't afford any of this stuff anymore because we are simply just being consumed by debt payments.
00:06:34.000So you write here, the fiscal year net interest on the debt has eclipsed all other spending functions except social security.
00:06:44.000seems to have any sort of concern or care.
00:06:47.000So EJ, in order to fix this, it would require massive spending cuts and or tax increases or just an acknowledgement that we are now in a new era of hyperinflation.
00:06:57.000We will easily exceed $36 trillion of debt this year.
00:07:02.000We're on pace for $1.5 trillion in interest on the national debt in the next 12 months.
00:07:07.00030% of all government revenues go to interest payments.
00:07:09.000Is there going to be an economic collapse because of this?
00:07:12.000Well, Charlie, we are fast approaching that.
00:07:14.000I mean, I think we still have time, I genuinely do, to avert another Great Depression kind of catastrophe here.
00:07:21.000The problem is that time is running out, and pretty darn quick.
00:07:25.000I mean, all of the stats that you just cited, they're true, and they should scare people.
00:07:29.000They should be scaring citizens, they should be scaring the politicians as well, who have created this mess.
00:07:35.000I mean, again, for some perspective here as to just how bad the situation is, we are very quickly approaching the point where the government is not even going to be able to afford things like sending out social security checks because we are being so consumed by these interest payments.
00:07:51.000And I'm so glad that you brought up Inflation, because people need to remember all government spending is paid for.
00:07:58.000It may be paid for through explicit taxes like the federal income tax, but it can also be paid for through the hidden tax of inflation.
00:08:05.000Why has inflation been so bad the last several years?
00:08:08.000Because it is how the government has chosen to pay for trillions of dollars it didn't have in all of these bloated spending bills and budgets over the last four years.
00:08:19.000And if we continue down this path, That's probably what we're going to continue to see more inflation.
00:08:24.000The problem with trying to get more tax revenue today is the simple fact that no matter how high you put tax rates, people will change their behavior in such regimes.
00:08:35.000And as a result, you really don't get much more tax revenue than what we're seeing today, at least in terms of a percentage of the economy.
00:08:43.000And so, we know what causes inflation, which is government spending.
00:08:48.000The government should not have done, we shouldn't have done any of these spending bills whatsoever.
00:08:53.000What is a remotely conceivable way out of this?
00:08:56.000I think it has to be cutting spending, Charlie.
00:08:59.000That's really the only conceivable path here.
00:09:03.000And that needs to probably be a combination of not only actually reducing the money going out the door, but also increasing how much is coming in.
00:09:11.000In other words, we have to get back It's just going to be too painful, frankly, to pay off all of this debt and to pay for all this spending, given how big the pie is today.
00:09:26.000Well, frankly, President Trump gave us a pretty good roadmap for doing that.
00:09:30.000You do it through tax reform and you do it through regulatory reform.
00:09:34.000One of the things that's not counted in these inflation metrics like the CPI, the Consumer Price Index, which we'll get the July reading tomorrow, but what's not included in there are regulatory costs.
00:09:46.000This is one of the reasons why the price of an automobile For literally a quarter of a decade didn't budge, according to the CPI, even though if you look at actual sale prices for vehicles, they were going through the roof.
00:09:58.000Because all of those additional costs were from regulatory increases, regulatory burdens, pushing up prices, things like new emission standards, for example, or other kinds of safety standards, whatever the case may be.
00:10:11.000So under the Biden administration, those regulatory costs have added up to about $5,000 per year per household.
00:10:19.000Under the Trump administration, those regulatory costs actually went down by $2,000 per year per household.
00:10:25.000So I think that gives some additional context and perspective here as to why people felt so much better under the Trump economy than they do under the Biden economy.
00:10:37.000Are you ready to lose weight, but not sure where to start?
00:11:50.000So if we don't cut spending, which is likely going to be the case because DC does not like cutting spending at all, then what does that look like?
00:12:11.000We've already felt some of the tax increases, some of the regulatory increases.
00:12:16.000We've already felt, most obviously, the inflationary pressure.
00:12:20.000However, there is still a lot of government spending that has not yet been paid for and that's going to have to be paid for one way or another.
00:12:27.000So again, you can either cut out other spending to compensate for it or you can have a lot more inflation, but those are really your only options at this point.
00:12:36.000I mean, some people are recommending a government efficiency committee, but we're talking about massive sums of money here, right?
00:12:41.000We're not talking about a couple billion here, a couple billion there.
00:12:44.000We need to cut at least a couple trillion dollars in spending.
00:12:49.000And frankly, to get towards a path of sustainability, you probably even need to cut more than that.
00:12:55.000But just in order to stem the bleeding, in other words, to get us out of crisis mode, which frankly is where we are today, regardless of whether or not people are willing to admit it, Just to get us out of the state of crisis, we need to cut a couple trillion off of this budget.
00:13:10.000Yeah, and I mean, most people think waste, fraud and abuse is just like a line item in the budget.
00:13:15.000We need to come up with at least a trillion dollars in potential spending cuts.
00:13:19.000And again, you have the Warfare Welfare Coalition, where the warmongers in the Republican Party don't want to touch the defense budget and the welfare mongers in the Democrat Party do not want to touch the kind of social services budget.
00:13:33.000What has been the primary driver of our spending increases the last couple of years?
00:13:39.000Well, the last couple of years, it has definitely been the discretionary spending.
00:13:43.000It's been things like the crazy green energy boondoggles, right?
00:13:47.000The things that have cost multi-trillion dollars here we're talking about.
00:13:51.000Now, have we wasted a ton of money on overseas conflicts?
00:13:58.000We have a bloated defense budget that is also filled with waste, fraud, and abuse.
00:14:03.000However, over the last several years, the biggest driver that we've seen recently, again, has been the crazy domestic projects.
00:14:10.000All of these left-wing boondoggles and rabbit holes that we've gone down.
00:14:14.000However, going forward, we are quickly approaching a point where things like Social Security and Medicaid are going to absolutely explode.
00:14:24.000Don't get me wrong, they're already rising fast, Charlie, but they are going to genuinely explode as we have a lot more Americans retire and we don't have enough young Americans being born to replace them in the workforce.
00:14:36.000So you're going to simultaneously see revenue coming down and expenses from the government going up.
00:14:42.000So that's where you'll really run into an even bigger problem if you continue all of the crazy runaway spending that we see today.
00:14:49.000Again, it doesn't matter if it's the runaway spending on the defense side or these insane domestic programs, whatever the case may be.
00:14:56.000We need to understand that we are going into a situation that already has a lot of financial headwinds.
00:15:02.000And it's all the more reason why we need to get the budget in order now.
00:15:06.000Our leaders, the people who were in charge of society, primarily people that have served in politics for many years like Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer, they made a deliberate series of choices to ruin the country and to defecate on the economy and hand it down to future generations.
00:15:22.000It's going to require trillions of dollars of spending cuts, but in D.C.
00:15:27.000we can't get House Republicans to do a couple billion dollars in spending cuts.
00:15:45.000Can you give me one example since George W. Bush, who was one of the worst presidents in American history, where we have cut any spending, like actually materially cut spending?
00:16:22.000I thought last night was absolutely terrific.
00:16:24.000First of all, I thought it was really terrific for Elon Musk, and I'm happy to defend my Musk skepticism later on, Charlie, if you would like, but I thought him sticking his neck out there and sort of cementing his conversion from De facto liberal to card carrying member of Team Trump, Team MAGA is pretty unbelievable to watch.
00:17:19.000They're deeply invested in seeing Kamala Harris win.
00:17:22.000And the best way to advance that narrative today is to tell people they don't have to watch this.
00:17:29.000Because anyone who watched this would have seen two genuine, charismatic people speaking from authority on their areas of expertise in a conversational, long-form way that Kamala Harris could never do in a million years if she had a million opportunities.
00:17:45.000If people watch that, they're going to be drawn to both of these guys.
00:17:49.000Being drawn to Musk, who is the only platform that's sort of favorable towards our viewpoint, Charlie, and Donald Trump, who's running for president, they can't allow for that.
00:17:57.000So they have to act as though this was some sort of a disaster, specifically because it was the opposite.
00:18:03.000So the conversation was unique in many ways.
00:18:33.000Misinformation on Twitter is not just a campaign issue, it's a, you know, it's an America issue.
00:18:39.000What role does the White House or the President have in sort of stopping that, or stopping the spread of that, or sort of intervening in that?
00:18:50.000Some of that was about campaign misinformation, but, you know, it's a wider thing, right?
00:18:54.000Yeah, no, and you've heard us talk about this many times from here, about the responsibilities that social media platforms have.
00:19:00.000when it comes to misinformation, disinformation.
00:19:03.000I don't have anything to read out from here about specific ways that we're working on it,
00:19:09.000but we believe that, that they have the responsibility.
00:19:12.000You got two DEI hires talking back and forth there.
00:19:16.000You would like to think, Charlie, at this point, I'm very optimistic about this, that the American public get it.
00:19:22.000They get how pathetic this is, that the First Amendment kind of rules.
00:19:27.000And not just literally speaking, but figuratively, it's nice to have a First Amendment, and it's one of the great advantages this country has.
00:19:34.000And to be told you're not supposed to flex it when you're the richest person in the world with a social media platform and the most powerful man in the world who is running for president?
00:19:47.000Of course they're going to take advantage of that and to act like that's some sort of an outrage and the government should shut it down.
00:19:53.000I would like to think open-minded voters see through this and see it as offensive.
00:19:58.000Charlie, one thing I would have liked to have seen yesterday was I would have liked to have seen those guys throw down harder on the EU.
00:20:04.000The EU suggesting that this should be censored.
00:20:06.000The two powerful men who've earned everything in their life, for them not to be able to speak their minds, that that's something that the EU should be able to step in and regulate, should offend every American.
00:20:17.000And it's one of those things where I would have liked to have seen a much bigger throw down there.
00:20:20.000Well, yeah, I was waiting for Donald Trump.
00:20:22.000I think he missed a little bit of an opportunity here.
00:20:24.000By the way, I was talking to him this morning about it.
00:21:06.000By the way, just a moment is clear, the tariff power is uniquely unilateral for the President.
00:21:11.000It's one of the few things that the Congress has just given to the President, and it's national security reasons.
00:21:16.000So you can get so much done for the betterment of your country and for the betterment of civilization just on the threat of tariffs.
00:21:23.000To give you an idea, if Kamala Harris were to come out, which she never would, Or Joe Biden right now and said, hey Mexico, 20% tariff on everything coming in.
00:21:30.000There would not be a single illegal that would come into this country.
00:21:35.000People say, how do you secure the border?
00:21:36.000You say that we put a 20% tariff on anything coming from Mexico.
00:21:40.000They will mobilize every single police member and military member and the border will be the most secure in history.
00:21:46.000That's exactly right and it's such a powerful tool and I think Trump would use it and hopefully he hears this conversation or someone else brings up the same thing and then maybe he can... There's no expiration date on this.
00:21:58.000I do wish he would have brought it up yesterday though because it seems like a no-brainer when he's getting threatened by these people who have no autonomy over you or me or your audience or my audience, Charlie.
00:23:12.000So the state of the race here, people are a little confused.
00:23:17.000I want to just kind of give people just a little bit of hope.
00:23:20.000Today, there was a poll done by USA Today, and USA Today is very, very liberal, as you saw by this lunatic article that they wrote about Donald Trump.
00:23:31.000I read it once, where it shows Donald Trump up 5 in Florida, which is far more than his 2020 victory margin, and they oversampled Democrats.
00:23:39.000Last poll showed him up 7 in Florida, so he's doing very well.
00:24:57.000And Kamala is a better candidate than Joe Biden, only in the sense that Joe Biden was the worst candidate in, not just in my lifetime, it had to have been maybe the history of the country, certainly in the last 100 years.
00:25:09.000As far back as I know history, he was the worst candidate for major party.
00:25:13.000So, her being at the top of the ticket is an improvement for them.
00:25:17.000But the media is going to have to try to extend this honeymoon phase all the way to the election, which, Charlie, you know this better than anyone, early voting starts in like a few weeks, I think?
00:25:25.000I mean, we're really closing in on it.
00:26:20.000For a fascism-curious billionaire who loves cuddling up to right-wing loons, Elon Musk sure is good at making right-wing politicians look stupid.
00:26:29.000I mean, this is rage posting on Reddit at this point, Alex.
00:28:20.000If you were advising the Trump campaign, what creative ideas would you give him, things that you think are missing, no-brainer ideas to help increase the margin and to win this election?
00:28:31.000Yeah, well, I think, first of all, it's your message and credit to you guys at TPUSA and TP Action.
00:28:38.000Rounding up every single vote, not taking a single vote for granted.
00:28:42.000And I think that that's the number one thing.
00:29:18.000Go talk about the plan to bring back some jobs, to create some new industry in America on location.
00:29:24.000Do it there, and then you get all your greatest hits in, your talking points, and then Raz Kamala for not doing any interviews.
00:29:31.000Those would be the moves I'd do right now.
00:29:33.000The appointment of Tim Walz as the VP, what does that tell you as a reporter and as someone who's been in this space for a while?
00:29:40.000What is the Kamala campaign trying to tell us about their strategy based on the appointment of Tim Walz and the passing up of Josh Shapiro, who is obviously more charismatic, obviously would have been a better strategic play for Pennsylvania.
00:29:54.000Yeah, I think that this is one of the most fascinating questions in the last week or two.
00:29:58.000And I, the answer with my analyst hat on is that I think that the Democrats are more concerned that their base voters are not going to show up to the election.
00:30:08.000And I think that if you put a Josh Shapiro on the ticket, a guy who the donors would probably like better and is seen as more of a moderate, he's not a moderate, but he's seen and can be branded that way from an energy state.
00:30:19.000And then all of a sudden you're, Catering to Democrats who might still like fracking, Democrats who might still like Israel.
00:30:26.000I think they're more concerned about the pro-Hamas squad wing of the party.
00:30:29.000I mean, you saw Jamal Bowen going crazy online.
00:30:32.000He was so excited about the Waltz pick.
00:31:00.000Here's my prediction, is that they're going to cart out Biden, they're going to pump him up with drugs, and he's going to come give the handoff speech to Kamala Harris at some point.
00:31:28.000I'm glad you brought the DNC on the back of the Waltz pick because I think that they're afraid the DNC pro-Palestine, pro-Hamas protests are going to be so intense if a Josh Shapiro is on the ticket.
00:31:41.000And because Shapiro's position on Israel is basically the same as, you know, Joel Pollack to Breitbart.
00:31:46.000So that was not going to fly with the would-be protesters.
00:31:49.000So I'm curious to see how the various Democrat factions, how they co-mingle with each other.
00:31:55.000Because as Bannon always says, Charlie, we had our civil war and our side won, the America First side.
00:32:01.000So, people have mostly made their peace with that, or they've left and gone the David French way.
00:32:07.000So, we're kind of all on the same page.