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00:01:09.000All right, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.
00:02:00.000Anyway, so this new report comes out from Schellenberger, and it says, as you see on your screen, that Joe Kent says he's willing to testify at the trial of Tyler Robinson.
00:02:14.000So this is obviously a huge bombshell and escalates everything to a much bigger level.
00:02:20.000I have reached out to Michael Schellenberger, and he has agreed to come on the show today.
00:02:25.000He interviewed Joe Kent for this report.
00:02:47.000Joe Kent was a government official at a very important post, and now he's saying he's willing to testify ostensibly on behalf of Tyler Robinson.
00:03:01.000This is a line crossed that we have not seen.
00:03:04.000Yes, I mean, let's just recite it where he says, Kent, this is Schellenberger's reporting on Substek.
00:03:11.000Kent said he knew he might be called as a witness before he made his statements that a quote foreign nexus may have been involved in Kirk's assassination.
00:03:20.000I was definitely warned of that over and over again, said Kent.
00:03:24.000If I end up having to play that role, then I'll do it.
00:04:04.000Jonathan Turley, who is a, I guess he's a contributor to Fox News, legal contributor.
00:04:10.000He's a professor of law at George Washington University, said that 90% of the evidence accumulated against Tyler Robinson could be thrown out.
00:04:20.000So the defense could be successful in throwing out 90% of the evidence, and he would still be found guilty of murder.
00:05:30.000That is the most obvious piece of evidence in the world that nothing can argue around.
00:05:36.000And some people are so obsessed with the same conspiracies that they concoct for every other thing that ever happens.
00:05:44.000And so they have to shove it into this one too because they care more about their conspiracy theories than about the person who murdered my friend facing justice.
00:06:09.000I think, candidly, I don't get enough credit for even the fact that I shared these group chats in the first place.
00:06:16.000We shared a lot of information about trans, about Charlie, how Charlie was more concerned about than any other community about the trans coming after him.
00:06:28.000I heard over the course of the last two years of Charlie's life, probably about 50 references of how he knew the trans Tifa was going to come after him.
00:06:44.000And here's why it's so frustrating is because there is going to be even more evidence that is presented to the public in May at the evidentiary hearing.
00:07:07.000I'm told they've got this guy dead to rights.
00:07:11.000And meanwhile, you have government officials that are now saying on the record to journalists they are willing to testify on behalf of the defense to get, ostensibly, to get Tyler Robinson off the hook for something that he did.
00:07:26.000And so the level of betrayal that I currently feel is dramatic and extreme.
00:07:34.000The level of just frustration, the idiocy that is on full display, we have to call it out because if this ends up screwing up the jury pool, if this ends up in some ways getting a hung jury, getting This case thrown out, or even just getting the death penalty off the case, off the potential list of consequences here.
00:08:29.000That is a line in the sand that we must hold because this could negatively impact the trial of the assassin of my friend, of Blake's friend.
00:10:06.000Hey, thanks for having me on, Andrew, inviting me on.
00:10:08.000Yeah, I mean, I think it's pretty big news.
00:10:10.000Joe Kent, of course, the former director of the National Counterterrorism Center, has been saying for the last week that he thinks that he doesn't buy the lone shooter theory of the assassination of Charlie Kirk.
00:10:24.000He suspects there's a foreign nexus, was the words he used involved in that assassination.
00:10:30.000He said that the FBI prevented him from investigating it and that he viewed that as suspicious.
00:10:38.000And if there was nothing there, he told me then why did they prevent him from investigating it?
00:10:44.000I asked him if he was aware before he went public last week that Tyler Robinson, the suspected assassin of Charlie Kirk, that his defense attorneys might actually call Kent to the witness stand to argue that Robinson could not be convicted because the prosecutors had not given them all the information they had available to them.
00:11:08.000That's something known as the Brady rule, named after a Supreme Court decision, I believe in the 1960s.
00:11:14.000But nonetheless, most people are familiar with it from television, which is that the prosecutors can't deny, federal government can't deny, the government can't deny the defense any information.
00:11:24.000And Kent is saying that there is information and that the investigation itself was inadequate.
00:11:30.000And that, you know, I spoke to a constitutional law legal scholar yesterday who said, you know, it would be a no-brainer for the defense attorneys now for Robinson to use Kent's statements as a way to gain an advantage or potentially a hung jury or a mistrial or something of that nature.
00:11:49.000So it's pretty serious for people that are interested in seeing justice served with the assassination of Charlie Kirk.
00:11:57.000Well, listen, Michael, I know that you have to be sort of dispassionate.
00:12:39.000Just to underscore your point, you have been one of the lead voices exposing some of the craziness and the zaniness behind the transgender radical trans ideology.
00:12:51.000So I just wanted to give you some bona fides there.
00:12:56.000And I think many Americans felt that they didn't need to pay attention to the issue at all.
00:13:00.000But now we've seen trans-identified people engaged in shootings, obviously, or maybe not obviously, probably obviously to your audience, it was the last thing that Charlie Kirk was talking about before he was assassinated.
00:13:15.000It appears as though the evidence that Tyler Robinson committed that assassination is pretty overwhelming.
00:13:21.000And to be fair to Joe Kent, he didn't dispute that.
00:13:25.000What's really what he's raising here is that there may be some broader conspiracy.
00:13:31.000And there's not a lot of evidence for that.
00:13:36.000But nonetheless, because Kent is such an important voice, he could easily be used by the defense attorneys.
00:13:44.000I did directly ask him repeatedly that, you know, given that his agency is an intelligence gathering, a really intelligence synthesizing and coordinating agencies, part of the broader coordinating intelligence mission of the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, he didn't have the authorities to do a law enforcement investigation.
00:14:05.000And didn't he sort of need to trust that his colleagues at the FBI and elsewhere or also with the Utah police, law enforcement, at some point, you can pass along a tip or an idea, but don't you at some point have to sort of trust unless you have other evidence, you know, and I asked him if he had other evidence of some sort of corruption or conspiracy.
00:14:30.000So it kind of raises the question of, you know, what is this sort of based on?
00:14:35.000Because I think it's worth pointing out to people that the restrictions on Kent's authority to investigate the Kirk murder are not arbitrary.
00:14:43.000It's not something that Director Kash Patel, whatever you think of him, sort of invented as a way to stymie a proper investigation.
00:14:51.000Those restrictions on investigative power are what protect us as citizens.
00:14:58.000It's part of our lock-in system of government.
00:15:01.000And I think we saw the intelligence community abuse those powers to create the Russia Gate hoax, you know, the Russia Gate conspiracy hoax.
00:15:12.000I mean, we can go through, you know, that wasn't the first time the intelligence community had abused its powers.
00:15:17.000But when you go through, so these the restrictions on Kent that I think for people that maybe haven't thought about it a lot or haven't, you know, that don't work, don't aren't familiar with the intricacies of why these laws exist, I think it's important context.
00:15:33.000Like these laws are not there to prevent a thorough investigation or to cover up things.
00:15:37.000And it certainly wasn't a subjective determination by the FBI director.
00:15:42.000It's written into laws, and those laws are there, you know, first and foremost to protect us, obviously.
00:15:47.000But obviously, part of the process of protecting innocent civilians is also to make sure that you get the guilty party and you don't go off and engage in activities that would potentially entrap innocent people.
00:16:02.000So, first of all, I just want to really harp on this point.
00:16:05.000He didn't present any, did he present a single example of evidence against Tyler Robinson that he believes may have been flawed or mistaken on one end?
00:16:16.000And on the other end, did he give you a single concrete example of evidence in the case that he believes specifically that went uninvestigated by the FBI or by any other law enforcement?
00:16:31.000I'm afraid I can't answer all of these questions because I have to protect, but I will say that he presented nothing on the record and hasn't presented anything on the record.
00:16:53.000I mean, here's here's the problem, though.
00:16:56.000So, he's now essentially said that he's willing to go testify ostensibly on behalf of the defense on Tyler Robinson's defense.
00:17:06.000I've heard him say in other interviews that, you know, he said, I'm sure there's a slam dunk case against Tyler Robinson.
00:17:14.000I'm not saying it wasn't him, but now it seems like almost he's moved on from that point.
00:17:20.000Did you ascertain his sense, his internal sense of the guilt of Tyler Robinson or not?
00:17:26.000Well, this is, let's get into this part because this is extremely important and important to understand.
00:17:32.000And I posted all of the on the record portions of our interview, I posted and also was very careful to make sure that the stuff that was posted was on the record after the fact, confirmed it with Kent earlier today before publishing.
00:17:49.000So everything that's in that recording, it's over 30 minutes.
00:17:53.000I think what's he also said that he thought that there was a strong case against Robinson, and I don't think he's changed that view.
00:18:01.000I'm not, well, I should put it this way.
00:18:04.000I don't think anybody in the media had yet asked him directly and kind of consistently if he was aware that his allegations could be used by Robinson's defense team to argue that Robinson was potentially a victim of a wider conspiracy.
00:18:24.000And Kent said that he was aware of that before going public.
00:18:28.000The Brady rule is not an obscure rule.
00:18:31.000I mean, everybody knows that the defense attorneys are going to need to know everything that went into some investigation, any government investigation.
00:18:38.000That's a really important civil liberties protection.
00:18:43.000And similarly, it's a protection, it's a protection of the innocent.
00:18:46.000It's a strong protection of people, of defendants that people may be very convinced are already guilty, but it's also there to make sure that you're not, like we've been talking about, abusing those authorities.
00:19:13.000Yeah, this is the obvious, this is the obvious result of this, is that he's doing this PR tour.
00:19:19.000And that's what infuriates me is he's like endlessly, he's like someone who's vague posting on Facebook where he's like, ooh, there's things I might know.
00:19:53.000Shortly after Tyler Robinson's arrest, the prosecutors released a probable cause affidavit detailing the evidence gathered immediately after Charlie's assassination.
00:20:04.000The evidence presented at that time was overwhelming.
00:20:07.000But people also need to remember this.
00:20:09.000In the months that have followed, we know the investigation has continued.
00:20:14.000More details will come out in May when the assassin has a probable cause hearing, and we are certain there will be even more evidence submitted against Tyler Robinson by the state.
00:20:26.000And that's a so the frustration here, Michael, is that we have this vacuum, this void that's been created where the investigation is kind of still ongoing.
00:20:36.000They're still gathering it, getting it presentable for this May probable cause hearing, but the internet never stops.
00:20:43.000And Joe Kent resigned when he did, and now he's doing this PR tour.
00:20:46.000And it really does, and I want to get this through the audience's head.
00:20:51.000This really does have a potential to not only taint a jury pool, but to undermine the very prosecution of Tyler Robinson, who I am 100% convinced pulled the trigger and killed Charlie Kirk.
00:21:07.000I mean, I think, you know, the first thing that's just worth acknowledging is that, you know, the American people, all of us, have seen, you know, real world conspiracies exposed.
00:21:19.000And I mean, by conspiracies, you know, illegal secret activity by the government.
00:21:23.000Russia Gate collusion hoax is the most famous.
00:21:26.000We uncovered a censorship industrial complex whereby government officials working with intelligence community officials or recently departed intelligence community officials pressured social media companies to engage in mass censorship.
00:21:41.000We saw a cover-up of the science of COVID's origins almost certainly in a laboratory in China.
00:21:49.000So I think Americans are, and that's not even to get into other spectacular potential conspiracies like JFK or UAE.
00:21:56.000We've been on all of that stuff as well, Michael.
00:21:58.000I'm not, we like the conspiracy theorists have been proven right about a lot, but that was before you had people that Charlie helped get in these positions in the first place, you know, as part of the investigative arm.
00:22:10.000You know, I just, anyways, I'm sorry, I cut you off.
00:22:13.000Well, no, so I mean, I think that's just important context that I, you know, I'm, I'm, my opponent, my critics call me, they accuse me of being an irresponsible conspiracy theorist.
00:22:22.000So, but I also just think it's important, you know, obviously, that you have evidence to allege potential, you know, you know, really strong evidence, especially behind really strong allegations like this one.
00:22:36.000And I think a lot of times right now, you know, because the social media and podcasting is so powerful that I think, you know, it's fun, it's entertaining.
00:22:47.000You know, everybody loves a good conspiracy theory.
00:22:49.000And I think that's, you know, I think actually some amount of speculation is necessary.
00:22:56.000Asking even outrageous questions is totally appropriate.
00:22:59.000I think too, I think, though, that there are consequences potentially if that starts to affect things like juries, you know, and it starts to, you know, I think the point is that we want to have trust in our institutions.
00:23:14.000It's not that we want to be in a state of permanent distrust.
00:23:17.000We need to have, that's why you need irregular changes of government to have, you know, clean house.
00:23:23.000I have seen no evidence that anybody in this administration would do anything.
00:23:29.000I mean, this is an administration that's absolutely passionate about Charlie Kirk.
00:23:34.000You know, I think everybody knows that the reaction from the Trump administration, the White House, all the federal agencies was of just shock and horror and outrage.
00:23:43.000So I just don't see how any broader conspiracy could be either carried out or covered up in the ways that I think Joe Ken is suggesting here.
00:23:56.000And so, you know, like, you know, if there, there's just really not anything here that would suggest that there's a cover-up going on that I'm seeing or that anybody else was involved than Tyler Robinson.
00:24:10.000You know, and I think Kent at one point sort of, or a couple of points maybe in the interview, sort of agreed that you don't need anybody else.
00:24:18.000I mean, Tyler Robinson, you know, it appears from the evidence that's been released so far, there's ample motive and a lot of evidence that he did it.
00:24:28.000So I don't, I just don't see the need to add something else to it.
00:24:32.000And again, you would think, well, maybe it's just for fun and, you know, just, you know, podcasting entertainment.
00:24:38.000But in this case, I think the consequences could be quite serious.
00:25:01.000What I'm telling you is that we've had six months plus since that time to track down all those leads, none of which have been corroborated, none of which have actionable evidence behind, none of which have been presented in any way, shape, or form to suggest there was a probable that there's any evidence.
00:25:19.000Overwhelming evidence very rapidly as well.
00:25:45.000And the recklessness with which these accusations are being thrown out now has real world implications.
00:25:50.000And I just, it's this brain rot, Michael, that's driving me insane being on the other side of it.
00:25:56.000I will never look at a conspiracy theory the same way having been on this side of it because people make jumps to conclusions, they jump to conclusions.
00:26:03.000They connect disparate pieces of evidence and they connect them in ways that don't make any sense.
00:26:09.000So anyways, I guess final minute to you, Michael.
00:26:12.000Where does this leave us and what do you expect to happen next?
00:26:15.000Yeah, I mean, for me, I, you know, having worked on this for now a couple of days and really it's been heavy focus on it, I kind of walk away just reminded that these restrictions on what intelligence agencies can do are really good and important and we wouldn't want to reduce those protections.
00:26:33.000I'm not seeing evidence of a wider conspiracy.
00:26:36.000I don't think anyone's presented evidence of that.
00:26:39.000I am very worried about this affecting the trial.
00:26:43.000I think most people, when they think about what's occurred now, would share that concern.
00:26:49.000And, you know, I think that people sometimes want to have a bigger meaning for the Charlie Kirk assassination.
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00:30:29.000I was super nervous beforehand, and once it began, I love that about you that you're willing to admit that you were nervous.
00:30:34.000You know, that's actually what we talked about.
00:30:36.000We spoke for a few minutes, and I just talked.
00:30:39.000You know, I know obviously Charlie is far more memorable, remembered, looked up to than I am.
00:30:44.000So I talked about the process that went into it.
00:30:46.000It's a conversation I had with Brian on our team once where he said, one of the most common questions Charlie would get is, Charlie, how can I be like you?
00:30:54.000And Brian would say, they don't actually want to be like him because it's a ton of work because Charlie had to be so disciplined with his time in a way that most people just cannot manage.
00:31:48.000Jack got a question about the Spanish Civil War, which I'm a big history dork, so I kind of wanted to jump in, but it was aimed at Jack because Jack had talked about it.
00:31:55.000We got a question about anti-Semitism on the right, so that was a good one to answer because, let's be real, it is going up.
00:33:11.000So we wrapped the show yesterday, and then like almost immediately after we're done with it, we get told that there are protesters out front.
00:33:19.000And I think we have some pictures here, if the team can show them up.
00:33:42.000So, but that turns out it's this progressive group that we mentioned were flipping off Charlie's memorial and doing all sorts of deranged things outside of the HQ before that, the day before that or over the weekend.
00:34:56.000And so I was like, I actually love that you were nervous because it shows the reverence that you have for CK and just how many reps he put in in that format.
00:35:06.000And it is a powerful format because it really is the collision of ideas and there is nothing off limits and it's mental sparring and you got to make your point.
00:35:14.000As a matter of fact, when we went out to confront this left-wing group that was taking all these terrible pictures, that was my first thing.
00:35:21.000They were like, they started with, look, do you condemn President Trump for what he said about Bob Moeller?
00:35:28.000And I was like, Do you condemn your friend over here for flipping off Charlie's memorial and doing all this other gross crap?
00:35:36.000And her response was, Well, I thought that you guys canceled our event.
00:35:40.000So I take it back and I'm sorry, I'll delete that post.
00:35:43.000It's like, even if we did cancel your event, which we didn't, you should not be doing that.
00:35:48.000You're a grown woman that is giving into this like online culture of just being, you know, really gross.
00:35:55.000And by the way, like when you've done the reps that Turning Point's done with all these campuses across the country, maybe then we'll take you more seriously.
00:36:02.000Up until now, you guys are just a bunch of trolls.
00:36:23.000I'll initially get a kick out of them thinking like we would want to shut down a left-wing group that would ask questions at our events because very obviously there's a symbiotic relationship there.
00:36:34.000Like we want liberals to show up at our events because that's how you get the debate.
00:36:39.000That's how that's how you get viral clips.
00:36:41.000Charlie would never want to go to a campus and only get people who agree with him.
00:38:00.000And as the clips come up, maybe we'll show some of them on the show.
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00:40:54.000It's going to constantly be changing, but we're there filling jobs that's going to release more TSA agents to work right in those security lines, especially the x-ray machines and the administration and secondary security, where they're very well trained to do.
00:41:11.000We're going to take people that are doing other security jobs and we're going to fill those gaps so they can release those highly trained TSA officials to help with the lines, maybe open up more lines because we got more people looking at X-ray monitors.
00:43:59.000Well, I'm just, first of all, I want to tout.
00:44:02.000I was reading, actually, we were doing an ASU event yesterday and I was studying up for it and I saw that the overall pace of ICE arrests per day has doubled since last spring.
00:44:31.000It would have a small effect on arrests, of course, because more people fall the field to the airport.
00:44:35.000But look, the men and women of TSA, they're not being paid.
00:44:38.000This is the third time in the past year they've suffered.
00:44:44.000So, you know, bottom line is the Democrats up on the Hill are punishing TSA, Coast Guard, CISA, cybersecurity, FEMA.
00:44:57.000They're punishing these employees by not paying them because they're mad about immigration enforcement.
00:45:06.000And, you know, bottom line is I've been meeting on the Hill, you know, having discussions, but bottom line, but we're not going to give up ICE authorities.
00:45:13.000We're not going to legislate or codify changes in policy because what I've explained from day one to people that are at the negotiating table, policy has not changed.
00:45:25.000The same policy we're using now was there with Clinton and Obama and Bush one and Bush two.
00:45:47.000So I find it shocking that any member of Congress, I don't care what party you're in, does not want to open up the government, does not want to fund the Department of Homeland Security that keeps this nation safe, especially, again, this elevated threat posture.
00:46:05.000Everybody in DHS should be working, working hard.
00:46:07.000So we need to get the government back open.
00:46:09.000President wants the government back open, and we'll get it back open, but we're not going to surrender immigration authority.
00:46:43.000I mean, bottom line is, what are they afraid of?
00:46:46.000And they say illegal aliens don't vote.
00:46:48.000But look, part of DSS job is secure elections.
00:46:52.000And I'm not going to say, you know, what our plan is going forward, but if only U.S. citizens can vote, I don't see the issue, what they're concerned about.
00:47:04.000They ought to be concerned about the safety and security of this nation.
00:47:07.000And why is the Department of Homeland Security not funded?
00:47:38.000And what ICE is simply doing is responding to four years of open borders and historic illegal immigration on border that brought millions upon millions of people to the border and release the United States.
00:47:50.000That requires an historic deportation operation.
00:48:00.000Why was President Trump elected to be the President of the United States and put in the Oval Office to secure the border and enforce immigration law?
00:48:57.000He understands, you know, as a member of Congress, he understands what Congress is upset about and what false narrative they're pushing and how we can, you know, work across the aisle.
00:49:09.000And I think it's a game changer, and I'm looking forward to working with him.
00:49:13.000And again, we have a close relationship.
00:49:16.000And even though he wasn't a secretary yet, I read him in on the operation and what we're doing at the airport speak because I want him to hit the ground running.
00:49:26.000And my office and many others has offered him any resources he needs to hit the ground running on day one.
00:50:28.000I think he's going to impress this country with his drive to maintain the most secure border in the nation at the same time, enforce immigration law in a smart, effective way.
00:51:33.000And it's a winning game, winning formula.
00:51:37.000I wanted to, you were talking about how Mark Wayne Mullen, Secretary Mark Wayne Mullen, can be effective in this role.
00:51:43.000I said, and I defended you publicly on this, what you did in Minneapolis was an absolute masterstroke.
00:51:49.000You got cooperation at the local prisons and the county jails.
00:51:55.000Explain what you did there and how that can be a model of working with these blue jurisdictions, these sanctuary cities across the country.
00:52:03.000Well, look, we know that we have a problem with sanctuary cities because we know they're releasing public safety threats back into the community.
00:52:11.000They're releasing public safety threats back into the public, which I think is just plain stupid.
00:52:15.000So when we got to Minnesota, I met with the governor and the attorney general and the mayors about cooperation.
00:52:23.000I explained to them more agents in the jail means less agents in the street because we can arrest a criminal, illegal alien in the safety and security of a jail where it's safer for the alien, safer for the officer, certainly safer for the community.
00:52:37.000But when they release him to the street, we got to send a whole team to go look for him because officer safety concerns.
00:52:42.000And in Minneapolis, things are out of control.
00:52:44.000So not only do we send a team to go look to arrest a bad guy, then we had to send an additional team as backup because of the chaos that was going on, the threats against ICE officers.
00:52:55.000So what one officer could have done in the jail or two, now we got 14, 15 guys out there in the street for that one guy.
00:53:03.000And when you got, you know, 20 different teams out, you're talking about hundreds of people out to arrest a few people.
00:53:09.000So I explained, and I understand that that raises fear in the community that you have a bunch of ICE officers out there in tactical gear to arrest a bad guy.
00:53:18.000I said, you want those, want that vision to go away?
00:54:39.000I think I've told you about this in private, Tom, but I wanted to get it on the air.
00:54:43.000We have a viewer who emails us very often, and he asks if you can say publicly to announce to all of America confidently that any illegal aliens who try to vote in the coming elections will be caught and will be deported.
00:55:00.000After we prosecute them, I mean, it's a crime to vote illegally in the United States, so we're going to take it seriously.
00:55:29.000So why wouldn't you want to show ID to take advantage of the most significant thing this country has, your ability to vote for your next leader.
00:55:39.000I mean, it's a sacred, it's a sacred ability, and we ought to keep rules wrapped around it.
00:56:15.000Do the work that's going to say when it back is ICE and the conditions that have been perpetuated on the streets of America of what often is described as secret police that took an oath of office, not to the Constitution, but to Donald Trump.
00:56:40.000I just the behavior of this administration to negotiate an agreement with Democrats to address the ICE Americans concerned about how ICE is currently being deployed and utilized.
00:56:56.000I just wish the president would take responsibility.
00:56:59.000So this is him playing off a narrative from the left where somehow ICE agents at airports or whatever, this is secret police.
00:57:06.000They're going to, there were some senators that were saying they were going to shoot people in the airports.
01:00:34.000So it was fun to see all of the hard work put into it.
01:00:39.000And it was definitely hard to flyer and get it advertised, but I think we had a good turnout, and it was really great having Blake and Jack.
01:01:27.000It's been awesome seeing everyone who didn't necessarily think that they wanted to get involved in politics until obviously seeing how important it is to be involved politically and talking to your peers, getting involved on campus.
01:02:43.000I'm trying to think of how young people look to Charlie now that he's no longer with us.
01:02:48.000I can speak for myself, and I think that my thoughts on activism have certainly come up.
01:02:54.000It makes me just want to get more involved with knocking on doors, getting people to sign up for being a PC, et cetera, et cetera.
01:03:01.000And I think maybe for more people on ASU, just it sparks us to have even more open debates, hearing clearly what the other side has to say.
01:03:48.000Yeah, they say like crazy things and they don't have a conversation with us.
01:03:53.000Yes, when we're tabling, they'll walk past us and say something diabolical, and it's very rude, unprecedented.
01:04:00.000I heard last night that apparently someone showed up at a meeting at, I think, when Erica showed up at the chapter, and they made some sort of joke about Charlie being dead or something.
01:06:28.000So when you hear people talking about, oh, they've been a threat to the United States for 47 years, the nuclear threat, what was that island?
01:11:05.000I don't know if you were old enough yet, but do you feel like he's lost a bunch of people that are never going to vote Republican now, or do you think it's salvageable?
01:13:06.000Well, like, I don't think the kind of person who thinks ICE is a fascist paramilitary because they enforce our laws are going to be won over by anyone working in a TSA line.
01:13:16.000I think they just kind of have a virus in their brain.
01:13:20.000I mean, especially if they're also falling for, oh, like, the U.S. is on stolen land, land back.
01:13:25.000These people, they just want to destroy America.
01:13:27.000Yeah, unfortunately, a very tempting attitude.
01:13:57.000So one of Jack's talking points was in the agricultural sector, which immigrants work in, replacing them with AI when they're deported because, oh, the wages are so good.
01:14:11.000I do think it should be going to Americans, even if that means corporations and farms have to raise their wages to incentivize people to do that.
01:14:20.000I think automation is probably coming one way or the other.
01:14:23.000But maybe there's some, yeah, I agree with you in general.
01:14:25.000If there's jobs that need to be done, give those to Americans too.
01:16:53.000I think there's more good people in the dating realm than there's not.
01:16:57.000Do you feel like young men are taking their faith seriously about at least the conservative guys?
01:17:03.000I mean, there was that NBC poll that pulled all the men and the women, and it was actually the men that wanted to get married, have families.
01:17:23.000It may be dilated because of what I view on social media, but there are some serious men haters, and they're definitely doing the right thing, getting a career, going to school.
01:17:34.000But there's a balance that we have to achieve with that.
01:17:38.000Yeah, what do you think about the whole career versus family thing?