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00:01:43.000He is out at the counterterrorism center.
00:01:46.000Blake, this is going to be used by a lot of people that don't like this conflict currently to attack the administration.
00:01:56.000Ironically, and perhaps intentionally, DNI Tulsi Gabbard is scheduled to testify before the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence tomorrow, as well as the House's counterpart committee.
00:02:13.000So the timing seems to be rather intentional here.
00:02:27.000As you said, it's possible Tulsi could quit.
00:02:29.000It's possible others could step aside.
00:02:32.000Now, whether that's a good idea, even if you're a skeptic of the war, I think can be debated because what you do anytime you quit like this is you are stepping aside.
00:02:43.000You're letting the president and probably the people who are most in favor of the change install someone else in your place.
00:02:50.000So it's kind of a decision to give up on the administration, which we're one year in.
00:02:57.000There's a lot of presidency to go and there's a lot of problems we genuinely still need to deal with.
00:03:02.000And so I think even if you're worried about this war, even if you're concerned about it starting, even if you're concerned about how it will end, I don't necessarily see how it's useful to do a big gesture like this unless you've just decided you're totally out.
00:03:18.000And I'm thinking back to how annoying it was in the president's first term when you had people doing these big public resignation jobs, mostly on the other side.
00:03:28.000I remember Mattis quitting and then he became a big thorn in the side of the administration.
00:03:36.000And I don't think it, I don't think it made the president well disposed towards those people.
00:03:41.000And in that sense, it kind of did help us over time because it was a lot of people on the more moderate wing of the party stepping out.
00:03:47.000But if the people on the more anti-war wing are now the ones giving the president grief, I do wonder how that might affect the president's approach to things.
00:03:56.000Yeah, I mean, obviously, Joe Kent is making a calculation here that this will become a PR issue for the administration, that he can accomplish more to stop the war if he does something like this.
00:04:12.000Speculation is that he is potentially already scheduled to be on the Tucker Carlson show to discuss his reason for resigning.
00:04:22.000You know, there is, interestingly enough, a tweet of his going around where he discusses, you know, that Iran has been trying to assassinate President Trump since the Soleimania attack in Trump 1.0.
00:04:34.000So a lot of people are sort of throwing that back in his face saying, you know, what changed Joe?
00:04:41.000Because it does seem like a country trying to assassinate our president is a pretty dramatic and I would say confrontational step.
00:04:52.000So if Joe Kent was aware of the nature of these attacks and the seriousness of these attacks, I mean, you could justify an attack against Iran simply on that measure alone.
00:06:08.000But there's a lot of people that have come out against Joe Kent.
00:06:10.000For those not aware of the inside baseball, Joe Kent was probably one of the most controversial figures within the Trump admin.
00:06:18.000He's been accused of leaking documents multiple times.
00:06:22.000I have no evidence to conclude one way or the other.
00:06:25.000That's certainly the rumor, though, that he's been leaking.
00:06:29.000And so you could make the argument that from the administration standpoint, that this is actually a good thing to sort of remove him from that position.
00:06:39.000But yeah, now speculation is going to arise about the future of Tulsi Gabbard.
00:06:44.000I tend to not believe that she's going to resign.
00:06:48.000I think that she is a patriot who would probably make the opposite choice of Joe Kent.
00:06:53.000But yeah, this is what tomorrow's hearings are going to be all about now.
00:06:59.000Another stuff you have to look towards is if he's resigning dramatically, I mean, if he just wanted to step out, he could just say, I'm resigning and basically say nothing more.
00:07:10.000He could resign without a public letter.
00:07:12.000He could resign with a very brief one.
00:07:14.000But instead, as you say, it's a longer one that is clearly intended to get attention.
00:07:38.000And what I think we might see is, I think this is escalating the possibility we might see some sort of, let's just say it, third-party presidential run in 2028.
00:07:47.000He might be positioning himself for something like that, positioning himself for a primary challenge in some sort of congressional or senate race.
00:07:56.000What I would suspect is this could be a step towards some sort of more aggressively anti-war coalition that might break away from the president.
00:08:08.000It might explicitly break away from MAGA.
00:08:10.000And if that's going to take place, I wonder who else might join it.
00:08:14.000And throwing that out there, I'd love, email us at Freedom at Charlie Kirk.
00:08:28.000He says, early in the administration, high-ranking Israeli officials and influential members of the American media deployed a misinformation campaign, deployed or designed to wholly undermine your America First platform and sowed pro-war sentiments to encourage a war with Iran.
00:08:44.000This echo chamber was used to deceive you into believing that Iran posed an imminent threat to the United States.
00:08:50.000So he's pointing the finger squarely at Israel.
00:08:54.000He's pointing the finger squarely at the neocon factions within the DC conservative establishment.
00:09:05.000There's no doubt this is a big moment, and it's yet to be seen exactly how it's going to play out, what the ramifications are, but we're all over it.
00:09:39.000Joe wets his fingers and sticks him in the wind to see which way the wind is blowing.
00:09:43.000I absolutely believe that they're trying to fracture the conservative voters and make a third party run.
00:09:48.000So that's from one of Joe's near constituents.
00:09:51.000Yeah, we have another one here, Kyrie.
00:09:55.000I was not familiar with Joe Kent until now, but looking at face value, it appears he's trying to make a noticeable statement against the president's decisions and not simply bowing out quietly due to personal convictions.
00:11:08.000The other piece of news that's happening right now is there is rumors of a Senate takeover on the floor of the U.S. Senate for passage of the Save America Act.
00:11:19.000So we heard that last night that these rumors are swirling.
00:11:25.000The Hill reported that there could be a takeover.
00:11:41.000And how will that make it more likely that this becomes law?
00:11:47.000I have absolutely no idea what a floor takeover means, but if a floor takeover means that we're going to make filibustering senators speak against this bill, heck yeah, I'm all for it.
00:11:59.000So it's basically that a few of President Trump's allies in the Senate are allegedly planning to hold the floor, which will stop everything else until something happens with the Save America Act.
00:12:10.000So they're going to basically commandeer the Senate floor to force this motion forward.
00:12:21.000About 84% of all Americans support voter ID in some way, shape, or form.
00:12:26.000And the Democrats don't want to see this happen.
00:12:28.000And it's very clear why they don't want to see something popular happen.
00:12:31.000It's because this is core and central to the Democrat business model.
00:12:35.000They need to offer incentives, opportunity, civic engagement to illegal immigrants in order to get more of them to come and more of them to stay.
00:12:44.000They have lost the trust of native-born Americans, of citizens, and therefore they need to incentivize this transformation effort, this project to transform the electorate of the United States by encouraging illegals to be able to vote.
00:12:59.000Now, we could have arguments until we're blue in the face about how many are actually voting in our elections.
00:13:06.000I think there are enough to be concerned about.
00:13:08.000Potentially, there is a determinative amount of these people voting in some jurisdictions, regardless.
00:13:15.000If you think there are none that are voting, why would you care that we pass voter ID then?
00:13:21.000If the laws are so good, it's already illegal.
00:13:24.000Why would we not simply pass something?
00:13:26.000Because if it's not going to have an impact, well, their argument is that a lot of people, married women, black voters, minority voters, can't get ID that would prove that they're eligible to vote.
00:13:39.000Their argument is that married women are too dumb to go prove that their married name is now their legal name to vote by.
00:13:47.000So, you know, Blake, I don't know what you make of those arguments.
00:13:52.000I tend to find that this is another bigotry of low expectations argument from the left, and it holds no water, but they're not going to vote for this.
00:14:02.000Like, look, either Republicans in the Senate want voter ID and want, you know, federal election security stuff, or they don't.
00:14:10.000And they can either actually pass it or they cannot.
00:14:14.000And I think even if this doesn't pass, I think we're really seeing very starkly the limits of what a Republican Senate is able to do as long as the filibuster is in place.
00:14:25.000And maybe now isn't the time to get rid of it because we might only have Congress for the next six months, basically.
00:14:32.000But on the other hand, like at some point, I think it's going to get thrown out and then you're going to have to have more seriousness about what we can pass.
00:14:41.000We've seen over and over again that the Republicans can make very big promises and then they fail to pass anything because we have this fake Congress that needs a supermajority to do anything.
00:14:51.000And I think at the least, this is forcing us to get closer to making Congress real.
00:15:01.000The long view is, what are all the things that we can do when we have a fully real Congress that can pass things with 51 votes or 50 votes?
00:15:16.000But I think there's a whole bunch of other things that we should also be building out for the day when we can have 50 votes to pass things.
00:15:22.000Yeah, the question central to this morning's debate on the floor of the Senate is, is this more failure theater?
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00:17:07.000You caused quite a stir this week with your The Enemy is Inside the Gates.
00:17:12.000And it was a picture of the Twin Towers on fire next to Mayor Mamdani sitting on the floor for, I guess, some sort of Ramadan feast inside the mayor's mansion in New York.
00:17:33.000Well, first of all, I love this country.
00:17:36.000My dad gave his life on active duty in the military.
00:17:40.000I'm doing this job because, you know, I had a pretty good and successful career in coaching.
00:17:46.000But I said, you know, I want to go help our country because we got a lot of problems and it's something we can fix.
00:17:52.000Well, to come up here, you have to identify the problem.
00:17:56.000And I've identified a lot of problems.
00:17:58.000And one of them is these people from these third world countries that hate our country and they wish death to all Americans that don't believe in the Koran and their cult.
00:18:12.000There's a great example of this, Andrew, and it's in U of K, Italy, France, and Germany.
00:18:20.000They have lost their countries to these third world people that want to preach and teach Sharia law.
00:18:27.000And they want to bow down to the Quran, which is their Bible, that believes and preaches death to all infidels, which, by the way, an infidel is somebody that doesn't believe in what they believe in.
00:22:20.000If you're a good Muslim and you take the word of the Quran verbatim, then we are infidels that need to be subjugated, conquered, and controlled.
00:22:29.000Yeah, like quite clearly, like the text of the historic core Islamic documents is far more in favor of religiously motivated violence than anything you can find in the New Testament.
00:22:53.000Basically, every time there's a surge of Islamic terror, you can even look at the polls.
00:22:58.000America literally became substantially more pro-Islam in the immediate aftermath of 9-11 because the line went out from the Bush administration, from the levers of power, that the religion of peace, these are a handful of extremists.
00:23:12.000We're actually very pro them otherwise.
00:23:19.000But we're clearly not being rewarded with lots of moderation.
00:23:23.000We're being rewarded with aggression, with an attitude of conquest.
00:23:28.000And if we want to see the end result of that, you can look at the UK where they now just elect members of parliament whose sole issue is Gaza.
00:23:53.000We're just seeing a small part of it right now.
00:23:57.000President Trump, he ticked them all off when he went into Iran.
00:24:00.000The Democrats can't stand it because I think they have more in common with the Iranians.
00:24:07.000I'm talking about the Democrats, Chuck Schumer, and all the Democrats, than they do with Americans, because they would rather fight for these people in terms of money and power and all those things.
00:24:19.000But, you know, the thing about it is we got people in this country that have been indoctrinated right and left.
00:24:24.000We got people up in the state of Alabama.
00:24:38.000And we had fortunately a lot of school members that's parents went to a school board meeting and blocked this expansion of this nonsense that they preach.
00:26:13.000We even have Republicans that are not going to vote for it.
00:26:16.000Talking filibuster is not going to work.
00:26:18.000The only way we can do it, we've got to bust the filibuster, 51 votes, get this done, pass everything we can for President Trump between now and the election next year, and we can take this country back over.
00:26:29.000But if we don't get this passed, we are doomed.
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00:28:42.000So, President Trump has been asked about Joe Kent, and his answer was pretty clear.
00:28:49.000But he basically says, it's a good thing that Joe Kent is no longer in the administration.
00:28:54.000When somebody is working with us that says they don't think Iran was a threat, we don't want those people.
00:29:01.000So, President Trump, defiant in this moment, Blake, your take on his reaction, kind of what we might have done.
00:29:07.000I mean, I think that's about the least surprising thing ever.
00:29:10.000And, you know, that's why I brought it up at the start.
00:29:13.000If your goal is to influence President Trump in one direction or another, because he is a guy who can tilt different ways, there's no substitute for proximity.
00:29:23.000He's a person who cares, who listens most to the people who are around him the most.
00:29:27.000He's the person who prioritizes loyalty, people who stay on the team.
00:29:34.000And so, if you're going to make a big stunt of leaving and kind of denouncing the process, even if his letter is still worded, so it's not blaming the president.
00:29:42.000You know, it's like these bad advisors have led the president astray.
00:29:45.000Like, the president is going to see what he really meant there.
00:31:01.000I want to tell you about a story here that's just, I'm so frustrated about it.
00:31:06.000Small aside, this illegal immigrant, Israel Flores Ortiz, 18, turning 19, he's charged with nine counts of assault and battery for allegedly groping multiple girls at a Fairfax high school in Virginia in the hallways.
00:31:22.000And we're not just talking, you know, groping on the on top, we're talking all over the place.
00:31:37.000Fairfax County leaders allowed him, allowed him to attend high school.
00:31:42.000And parents say he groped female classmates for months.
00:31:47.000Prosecutors have now charged him with nine counts of assault and battery.
00:31:52.000He came to the United States illegally from El Salvador in 2024.
00:31:57.000He enrolled as a junior in high school.
00:31:59.000Victims say he would creep up behind them in crowded hallways and grab them between their legs.
00:32:05.000DHS and ICE are asking the nation's sanctuary leaders to turn him over for deportation.
00:32:12.000But the new laws under the Democrat governor don't allow that.
00:32:16.000Israel Flores Ortiz is currently being held without bond at the Fairfax County Adult Detention Center, which is operated by the county sheriff's office.
00:32:25.000According to its website, it does not honor ICE administrative detainers.
00:32:30.000So here's a story where an illegal immigrant who came in under Biden now goes to a high school.
00:32:36.000He's a grown man at 19 years old, and he's coming up behind young American women and grabbing them between the legs.
00:32:45.000And we can't get rid of this person because the Democrats said they were going to be moderates and we're going to put in Spanberger and look at her.
00:32:56.000And now the first thing that they did was say that we're not going to cooperate with ICE and DHS.
00:33:02.000And so now young American women at a high school where they should be safe and protected and nurtured are getting groped between the legs by an illegal and we can't get rid of them.
00:33:25.000Even though they have a lower immigrant population than us, they're more deranged in what they put up with there, which is they had a huge number of Muslims from the most backward part of the world come in.
00:33:36.000These Muslims were literally targeting young girls who are native to Britain and like gang raping them.
00:33:44.000And police knew about this and covered it up to make sure that it would continue to happen.
00:33:49.000They continue to cover it up to make sure that it continues to happen.
00:33:53.000And they lie about it and they continue to bring in more and more of them while these guys will like gloat on TikTok about how awesome it is that they're taking over the UK.
00:34:19.000They want unlimited criminals from the third world to come to America and continue to prey on Americans, hurt Americans, rape Americans, kill Americans, because it would be easy to stop that.
00:34:29.000And they do not want it stopped, period.
00:34:33.000And then you combine that with the Save America Act, which they are vehemently coming out against, despite the polling, because again, their whole system requires them to import more and more foreign-born voters, get them on the rolls, get them taking your welfare so they'd never leave, and then not allowing ICE to deport the illegals, even the criminals.
00:35:13.000If you just say we're going to get the worst first, they won't even honor that.
00:35:17.000They will pass laws like they did in Virginia where you can't even get the worst out.
00:35:23.000There is no definition of the worst first where a 19-year-old man who's groping the crotches of young girls at a high school is not the worst first.
00:36:08.000They want to put this guy on the voter rolls to go harass more young women.
00:36:12.000So when you're tempted to doom and gloom and look at like the podcaster wars or whatever we're calling it, just remember that Democrats are unacceptable.
00:36:23.000Because the burn it all down folks that want to go vote tell you to vote for Democrats right now because we've got to rebuild the GOP in a more ideologically pure image.
00:37:09.000And somehow the answer is always more money and less parental authority.
00:37:13.000The documentary breaks down how organizations like the NEA amassed enormous influence, how radical gender ideology entered classrooms, and why something as basic as recess, movement, freedom, childhood, you know, had to go.
00:38:28.000And by the way, it's not just legal immigration.
00:38:30.000It's legal immigration that needs to be reformed.
00:38:32.000That's something that we talk a lot about.
00:38:35.000I'm getting a lot of feedback, by the way, as well from the audience about Coach Tuberville basically calling out the Senate saying, we're not going to get the Save America Act passed.
00:38:44.000So we need to be willing to blow up the filibuster to do it.
00:38:48.000And I think he seems to think we have 50 votes.
00:38:51.000I think we need to do that and some legal immigration reform.
00:39:29.000And we shouldn't give a dime of your taxpayer money to any illegal.
00:39:32.000There are people on this stage like Andy Barr that have let illegals run wild into our country, naturalize them, and given them all kinds of opportunities that should have gone to American citizens.
00:39:46.000Blake, what do you think that it's going to take to get immigration moratorium, this idea of it mainstreamed within the conservative political establishment?
00:40:57.000Stephen Miller goes from this 30-something Senate staffer to this senior aide in the White House.
00:41:03.000That is what gradually brings it about.
00:41:05.000So even if it's not everyone coming around to it yet, I think you'll eventually get there because it's an idea whose time has come.
00:41:12.000Yeah, well, I think this is interesting too.
00:41:13.000It plays off of our sort of, it wasn't a debate, but it was a back-to-back yesterday with Paul Danz and Mark Lynch that are working to unseat Lindsey Graham in South Carolina.
00:42:15.000He's got that legal bureaucrat mindset when he's talking, when he's saying stuff, oh, we need to have American graduate students again because we've had too many foreigners coming to us.
00:43:40.000You know, you think about South Carolina, Blake, and you've got a state where, you know, we have a safe Republican seat, at least now, and we've been wasting it for how many years on Lindsey Graham?
00:43:54.000Like the Democrats would never do that.
00:43:56.000You would get an actual, like, rock-ribbed, true believer if you were a Democrat.
00:46:13.000Now, Rich, I told everybody in the audience that I, you know, I've been used to, if I want to get depressed, I call you and I say, how bad is it, Rich?
00:46:22.000And you're sort of famous for that now on the internet.
00:46:51.000And whether how much this will help Republicans going into November, I think is debatable, reasonably debatable.
00:46:57.000But I would tell Republicans who are worried about the coalition, and you know I am, that Democrats are a mess and they have a very difficult time holding things together and not overreacting or, you know, they're like honing a good message right now.
00:47:16.000But what they do with that message, if and when they win with it, is totally different, Andrew.
00:47:34.000He came out as a stronger candidate in 08 when they went through that process.
00:47:38.000Republicans certainly came out with the stronger candidate in Donald Trump when they went through a similar process.
00:47:43.000I think the difference is now is that Democrats are just crazy.
00:47:48.000I mean, there's no nice way to put it.
00:47:50.000I try to always sound objective, but the fact is they're way outside the mainstream with average American voters.
00:47:57.000So it means they need to pay all that more attention to their message and be all more disciplined with that message.
00:48:05.000A great example of that is, I was talking ironically with a reporter from CNN yesterday, and I used a similar example, which was they thought with, you know, with getting, for instance, gay marriages, right?
00:48:22.000They were able to move the Overton win on Overton window on that.
00:48:26.000But then they misinterpreted it and they took it as, all right, now we're just going to chop off the genitalia of little kids too.
00:48:31.000Like they just thought they had all this and they went into the, they went too far and they went into the trans movement and they just went nuts.
00:49:26.000I'm just, guys, I mean, I tried to scream and yell for almost a year now about how to fix 2026.
00:49:34.000There is still roughly an 18% chance historically that Republicans could turn it around so much that they even win the National House popular vote, but it is just 18%.
00:49:46.000I think that there have been decisions made that sent the Republican Party on a course.
00:49:51.000You know, we have a habit of saying, you know, it's eight months from now.
00:51:15.000That was a major concern because, of course, he definitely played a role in 24.
00:51:19.000So, you know, there's we're not helpless, is what I'm saying.
00:51:22.000We're not Rich, I want to get your reaction to this new YouGov economist generic ballot here.
00:51:30.000So it, what the, and I want to highlight it because if you look at the dates on February 16th, because they run this poll every week, it was Democrats plus seven.
00:53:04.000Look, you know, first of all, you know, it's funny, somebody like Harry Enton would suddenly be an authority on the MAGA base, or the polls that he chooses to cherry-pick would suddenly be an authority on the MAGA base.
00:53:15.000There's like two pollsters in the entire country who know how to poll MAGA, and that's about it.
00:53:20.000The rest of them get lucky sometimes and don't other times.
00:53:24.000We may be the one who's been polling MAGA as asking people, are you or are you not MAGA?
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00:56:30.000You know, I've enjoyed a long career in writing many, many, many books.
00:56:35.000And this one, I felt like I needed to come out of the shadows because we don't have a lot of time, and particularly for conservatives, to get ready for the 5D political chess game that's about to emerge with this AI acceleration.
00:56:48.000I think President Trump and Vice President Vance are doing an exceptional job at the national level with their leadership.
00:56:53.000But I think at the grassroots, we have to understand that AI is not just a tool.
00:56:58.000It is political power, and that power is going to decide whether we indoctrinate or educate our kids.
00:57:05.000It's going to affect how we erase or create jobs.
00:57:08.000And obviously, right now, we're seeing in the Iran and Venezuela conflagrations the way it's AI warfare is affecting the battlefield.
00:57:22.000You know, Elon Musk says a supersonic tsunami is what AI is, heading at humanity.
00:57:28.000We've seen Dario Amade just recently say that we got 12 months to five years until half of white color entry-level jobs are wiped out.
00:57:35.000And we're hearing Microsoft AI CEO Mustafa Suleiman say 18 to 12 months.
00:57:43.000So if you thought there was a tsunami offshore and you saw it from the beach and you said, I only have this limited amount of time, you do everything you can to try to get people as prepared as possible.
00:57:53.000And that's really why I took on Code Red with this one.
00:57:56.000Yeah, Winson, I think this is the sort of thing.
00:58:01.000They're seeing it and come into their workplaces.
00:58:04.000But people I talk to who are really in the know, they'll say the biggest issue in America right now, the biggest issue in this admin right now, it's not Iran, it's not even immigration.
00:58:13.000One of the things they tell me, the biggest question right now is, is AI basically going to be woke?
00:58:19.000Is AI going to have left-wing assumptions baked into it or not?
00:58:24.000And we saw a flare-up of that with the fight over Anthropic, which a lot of people in DC were paying attention to.
00:58:30.000I don't know how much that penetrated the normal, the normie sphere, as it were.
00:58:54.000So this is a highly, highly ideologically engaged group.
00:58:59.000The second thing is that when you look at the bias point that you brought out, the very first chapter of Code Red is on the hidden persuasion of AI.
00:59:08.000And right now, literally five minutes or so before I got on, we just put it up on Breitbart's lead story and it's breaking from Code Red, which is that Google Gemini has smeared seven GOP senators and Vice President Vance and Secretary Rubio as in violation of their quote hate speech policies and yet zero Democrats.
00:59:36.000And so what I did in the a lot of the, you know, I spent two years investigating this book, but even just recently looking at it, this is no question.
00:59:44.000Peer-reviewed academic journal literature has concluded numerous times that leading LLMs, that is large language models, are overwhelmingly biased toward a leftward direction.
00:59:54.000And I explained why and the training data and all the rest of it.
00:59:58.000This is as good as it's ever going to get for right-of-center conservative people in terms of woke bias because they know the big tech companies know that you have the House, the Senate, and the White House, and they have huge regulatory override ability to affect their business.
01:00:14.000The minute that Democrats get into power, if and when that happens, the big tech elite are going to default to their scan and ban censorship, you know, blacklist and demonetize instincts that we saw under the Biden years.
01:00:28.000So this is, that's why I call it a code red moment.
01:00:42.000And that's why I really try to not just write a doomer screed, but really lay out what we can do on a personal level as well as the politics.
01:00:51.000And I'm thinking there's a writer, there's a blogger on Substack who has a series of posts that I'm sure you're familiar with, Arcto Theorem.
01:00:59.000And he had a whole breakdown where he's asking each of the AIs, he's giving them a bunch of resumes and then asking these AIs, who would you hire?
01:01:08.000And without telling them to do this, without instructing them to do this, the AIs are naturally, for example, engaging in racial discrimination.
01:01:15.000Like they'll discriminate against white American, against white people or against men, against straight people, because that is just what's going into the pot on these AIs is all of the discrimination, all the woke stuff we've had, and people don't even know about this.
01:01:29.000And if you're just asking an AI to do this for you, if you could say, oh, AI, hire 50 engineers for me, it's going to do that, even if you might not even be thinking about it.
01:01:40.000And the bias is baked in, as you rightly point out.
01:01:43.000And the corpus of most modern LLM enterprise level chatbots, AI, you're talking about a couple of bases of information.
01:01:52.000One, Wikipedia, which we know is far left and is constantly smearing conservatives and then locking their pages so that they're not allowed to edit and correct them.
01:02:02.000Number two is Reddit, which leans left.
01:02:04.000The three is peer-reviewed academia, which obviously we know about university bias and the problems we have in education.
01:02:11.000Obviously, Charlie fought against that better than anybody.
01:02:15.000And the other thing, of course, is something called the Common Crawl, which is the open, open internet, a huge data set there.
01:02:23.000The final thing, though, is that they have these very lucrative deals with left-of-center publishers.
01:02:29.000There are only a few people that are in the center that have these kind of deals.
01:02:34.000If I give you $50 million to buy the archives of, let's say, the New York Times or the LA Times or Time Magazine or The Nation or The Atlantic, that does two things, right?
01:02:46.000One, it's a subsidy to a left-leaning outlet to be able to stay in business and make payroll.
01:02:52.000But the other thing it does is it bakes in all those years and years and years of biased left-leaning reporting by those organizations into the training data.
01:03:02.000So it's garbage in, garbage out, and that feedback loop, that self-reinforcement feedback loop becomes very, very toxic for just getting straight factual information.
01:03:13.000And so one of the things I do in Code Red is I literally lay out all the contracts.
01:03:17.000Here's the money flow, just old style, you know, follow the money kind of journalism and let people just know the kind of bias and how big of money is flowing between these companies and the far left builders.
01:03:32.000So, Winson, another thing that we're getting, we get emails sometimes, I know this is popping up more on the right, is this hostility towards data centers, hostility towards some of the infrastructure that goes into AI.
01:03:44.000So you having analyzed it, what do you think the right posture of conservatives should be towards AI?
01:03:51.000Like it feels to me like it's probably a doomed venture to just say, oh, let's push back on the development of it.
01:03:58.000It seems more important that we need to control and influence and make sure it does not go in that disastrous direction.
01:04:04.000And so you've got about a minute and a half if you can answer that.
01:04:07.000And like, what should the administration be doing to bring AI to heal, so to speak?
01:04:12.000That's one of the more positive recent developments.
01:04:15.000President Trump and Vice President Vance did an amazing job with their ratepayer protection pledge, which what they did was they sat down with the heads of all of these large AI and tech builders and hyperscalers, and they said, look, we do not want working class communities to have to foot the bill for higher energy prices in the form of their electric bills, their water bills, just because you want to build some giant data center in their backyard.
01:04:44.000And not only will this pledge that President Trump brokered, not only will it make those big tech behemoths pay for upgrading those infrastructure pieces and the electric overflows, it will actually potentially lower the costs of local communities, water bills, and electric bills because they're going to do a lot of modernization of their rickety grids.
01:05:10.000And so I think that's the kind of proactive leadership we need, which is exactly what you said, which is, look, AI is a reality.
01:05:17.00099% of us use it, even though 64% of us don't even realize sometimes when we're using it because it's baked into our weather apps and other devices.
01:05:25.000But I think if we can get ahead of those landmines and avert them, we're going to be able to hopefully navigate our way through one of the biggest and most disruptive, fast-moving technological innovations we've ever encountered.
01:05:38.000All right, Winton, you freaked me out right at the beginning.
01:05:41.000And Blake kind of stepped in for me there.
01:05:44.000So you're saying we've got, what, 18 months till like, you know, the job apocalypse comes?
01:05:50.000Well, I hate to figure it out anymore, Andrew.
01:05:52.000Actually, there are some estimates it's as few as 12 months.
01:05:58.000And we all have to understand this 5D chess game that's being played here.
01:06:03.000And I walked through in code read the whole economic chapter here.
01:06:07.000You have forces all the way from Elon Musk to Dario Amade at Anthropic to Mustafa Suleiman at Microsoft AI, and they are all giving you these very, very dire job apocalypse wipeouts.
01:06:20.000They're doing that because of something called agentic AI.
01:07:05.000Are they, number two, just ideologically driven to want to scare people toward universal basic income and wealth redistribution?
01:07:13.000Or number three, are they just genuinely worried about human civilization and they're just trying to alarm every alert everybody?
01:07:19.000I think the reality is that there really is going to be real major job disruption.
01:07:25.000Doesn't mean that you're going to necessarily lose your job, but what Jensen Wong at NVIDIA has said for a long time, you won't lose your job to AI.
01:07:35.000You'll lose your job to someone who has mastered and knows how to use AI.
01:07:40.000A lot of people hear that, though, and they go, that still sounds like I'm losing my job.
01:07:43.000So what is the best way to be prepared?
01:07:45.000Number one, I think that you should future-proof yourself and understand your industry's use of the technology.
01:07:50.000Number two, if you're a parent or a grandparent, you have absolutely got to understand the implications of AI and the risks to eroding critical thinking, cognitive offloading, certainly the AI companions and AI girlfriend physical risks.
01:08:06.000But the best thing you can do is this.
01:08:09.000The future is not going to be about teaching our children to find jobs.
01:08:14.000It's going to be teaching our children to create jobs.
01:08:20.000So if we build the trivium, the classics of education that Torley and others have educated for so well, you know, logic, grammar, and rhetoric.
01:08:28.000Number two, we then give them the tools of entrepreneurship to understand how to create opportunity, create a small business.
01:08:34.000And then third and finally, keep them abreast of AI.
01:08:37.000You've really built a little bit of a moat to the degree that you're going to be able to around your child or your grandchild so that they're going to be able to navigate this.
01:08:46.000I had somebody yesterday who has a middle school child, and they said, what do I even tell my child to major in in college if they're going to college?
01:10:02.000This is Lucas Talking about Kent, he says, I would like to hear Kent justify how allowing an Islamic death cult to become an imminent threat with nuclear material is a good idea.
01:10:15.000And he says later, Trump has my full support.
01:10:18.000If this action exceeds three months, I'll be pissed.
01:10:23.000One month disappointed, but not surprised.
01:10:26.000The most unfortunate part of the whole thing is now that Kent resigned with a stupid, selfish letter, the media and libtards in Congress will run with it and fill the media cycle with this story.
01:10:37.000And I think that's the attitude of a lot of people that even if they're skeptical of the war, especially if it goes along, they also trust the president and they're mad that someone in our own coalition is sort of doing this big stunt that seems to damage the administration.
01:10:53.000We got a lot of emails about Dan's versus Lynch.
01:10:56.000David says, leans slightly for Dan's, but would be happy with Lynch if not anyone but Lindsay coming from a lifelong Republican.
01:11:06.000Kara said Dans came across as rough and easily rattled, but if he becomes more polished and succinct, otherwise I have no preference right now.
01:11:16.000Do you have any favorites on your end, Andrew?
01:11:20.000Patrick says Mark Lynch has Christian family values, honor and sacredness, living, sacraments.
01:11:26.000So there's a lot of emails that you guys are sending off that seem to resonate with Mark Lynch's just his presentation.
01:11:35.000He did seem a little bit more polished, a little more put together.
01:11:38.000Obviously, he's a successful businessman, has that sort of pedigree.
01:11:42.000So a lot of that that I'm seeing, I just think it's tough because I think genuinely they're both would be great candidates.
01:11:53.000I think they're both great, just to be clear.
01:11:55.000And I think the most important thing, because people are saying, you know, someone says, Chris says the problem in South Carolina is two or three go against Limpsey.
01:12:24.000And my last pitch for Dan's, he's just younger, and I hate to say it, but we want somebody in office that's going to have a nice runway here for many years to come.
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