The Charlie Kirk Show - November 10, 2023


Joe Manchin Quits the Senate. Will He Run for President?


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In this episode, President Trump reacts to the news that Sen. Joe Manchin is not running for re-election in West Virginia, which means the balance of power in the U.S. Senate will flip from Democratic to Republican.

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00:00:00.000 Hey, everybody, some great news coming out of West Virginia.
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00:01:07.000 How about some good news?
00:01:08.000 We all need some good news.
00:01:10.000 And yesterday, we got some excellent news.
00:01:15.000 We received some great news.
00:01:16.000 Joe Manchin is not running for reelection for the West Virginia Senate.
00:01:22.000 This all but guarantees that that seat will flip from Democrat to Republican, making the balance in the U.S. Senate 50-50.
00:01:30.000 Number one, this is a major resource win.
00:01:33.000 That race, if Joe Manchin would have run for reelection, would have been a $100 to $150 million race.
00:01:39.000 So now we can allocate that money elsewhere.
00:01:42.000 So it's a major resource win.
00:01:44.000 Also, we are at equilibrium, which means that if we just pick up the West Virginia Senate race, which we will, which is so overwhelming to Trump, it's an 80-20 Trump state.
00:01:53.000 They love Trump.
00:01:54.000 Oil, coal, drill, baby, drill.
00:01:56.000 Democrats don't stand a chance.
00:01:58.000 Joe Manchin was only there because he was governor, well-liked, and he was able to sneak by in 2018 barely against Patrick Morrissey.
00:02:05.000 It's going to be a red flip, which means we start 50-50.
00:02:09.000 If we win the White House in next November, even if we don't flip Montana, even if we don't flip Ohio, even if we don't flip Arizona, if we win the White House next November, the Senate will be ours because the vice president will be a tie-breaking vote.
00:02:23.000 Big deal.
00:02:24.000 That is a big deal, everybody.
00:02:27.000 But let's go a step further.
00:02:28.000 The U.S. Senate is a major component also confirming appointments.
00:02:32.000 You want Donald Trump to have an America first cabinet?
00:02:36.000 You want Donald Trump to have a cabinet that can execute the mandate of the people.
00:02:40.000 The Senate is a big deal.
00:02:42.000 Not to mention the composition of the Supreme Court, the circuit courts, federal courts.
00:02:46.000 So this is good across the board.
00:02:48.000 And Democrats are very disappointed.
00:02:50.000 Now, they don't like Joe Manchin very much, but their majority, albeit very slim, very fragile, is composed of red state Democrats.
00:03:00.000 So now we can allocate a significant amount of funding to go after Mr. Tester in Montana, who's a Massachusetts liberal masquerading as a good old Heartland boy in Montana.
00:03:14.000 We can go after Sherrod Brown in Trump Country, Ohio.
00:03:17.000 Joe Manchin not running for reelection expands the map and allows us to focus on those two flips.
00:03:24.000 Arizona is going to be one of the hardest, but Kerry Lake is, she's running a great race.
00:03:29.000 Carrie Lake in a three-way race against the Cami Gallego and the Chamber of Commerce Cinema. 0.95
00:03:34.000 There's no guarantee cinema's even to continue to run for reelection.
00:03:37.000 Now, before I get you too excited, it's very clear what Manchin is going to do.
00:03:43.000 It's very clear what Manchin is going to do, and we're going to talk about that in just a second.
00:03:46.000 But this year increases our chances to be able to have political power.
00:03:51.000 Now, some of you are probably saying, oh, Charlie, what does it matter?
00:03:53.000 They're a bunch of rhinos.
00:03:55.000 It doesn't matter if we control the center of the house.
00:03:57.000 Have to get rid of that thinking, everybody.
00:04:00.000 I am disappointed daily by Republicans' ability to govern and to pass legislation.
00:04:07.000 I get it.
00:04:08.000 But political power is something that we should embrace.
00:04:13.000 It is better to control the Senate than to not control the Senate, from appointments, cross-examination, and from nothing more for Supreme Court appointments and for staffing a cabinet.
00:04:25.000 You can then, let's just say a Democrat does win next November, which I certainly hope doesn't happen.
00:04:31.000 Having the Senate in Republican hands can slow down some of the appointments, can slow down some of the confirmations.
00:04:38.000 So let's listen to Manchin in his own words saying, I'm done.
00:04:42.000 I'm not running for reelection, but he teases something else.
00:04:46.000 What does Joe Manchin have planned?
00:04:49.000 Well, it's going to, I believe, significantly impact the 2024 election.
00:04:54.000 Play Coat 151.
00:04:56.000 After months of deliberation and long conversation with my family, I believe in my heart of hearts that I have accomplished what I set out to do for West Virginia.
00:05:06.000 I've made one of the toughest decisions of my life and decided that I will not be running for re-election to United States Senate.
00:05:13.000 But what I will be doing is traveling the country and speaking out to see if there is an interest in creating a movement to mobilize the middle and bring Americans together.
00:05:24.000 Now, Joe Manchin has disappointed us with some major votes, I'll be honest.
00:05:30.000 Anyone who knows Joe Manchin, though, knows he hates Chuck Hugh Schumer personally.
00:05:34.000 He can't stand him.
00:05:35.000 They've been at war for years.
00:05:38.000 And he's kind of jabbing Chuck Schumer on the way out.
00:05:42.000 Honestly, God bless you, Joe Manchin.
00:05:45.000 We don't agree on everything.
00:05:46.000 You're a Democrat.
00:05:47.000 You protected the filibuster. 0.96
00:05:49.000 Democrats are fuming over this.
00:05:52.000 What Democrats wanted was for the very least for Joe Manchin to run and to take a bunch of Republican money and make us spend money in West Virginia.
00:06:02.000 Now that's completely out.
00:06:03.000 If nothing else, we now are basically granted $150 million in reprieve.
00:06:09.000 It's actually more than that.
00:06:10.000 It's more double.
00:06:11.000 So it's for every dollar we now don't have to spend in West Virginia, which is a deep red state, we now can spend elsewhere.
00:06:16.000 Major victory.
00:06:18.000 And this makes the Democrats have to play defense in other places.
00:06:23.000 And it allows us to expand the map, by the way.
00:06:25.000 So let's get that Senate map up, just so you guys can see the Senate map.
00:06:30.000 We have Montana and Ohio are the two low-hanging fruit.
00:06:33.000 You got a great candidate in Ohio, Bernie Moreno.
00:06:35.000 Montana's kind of a mess right now.
00:06:37.000 We can comment on that later.
00:06:38.000 It's going to be a really bloody primary.
00:06:40.000 So let's get that map up that we were chatting about.
00:06:43.000 And so Texas is going to be comfortable.
00:06:45.000 Ted Cruz will win there.
00:06:46.000 Wyoming's fine.
00:06:47.000 Utah is going to be fine.
00:06:49.000 The primary there is going to be kind of heated, but it'll be fine.
00:06:51.000 Mississippi will be fine.
00:06:52.000 Florida will be fine.
00:06:53.000 The map is ridiculously good.
00:06:58.000 And by the way, Nevada, don't sleep on Nevada.
00:07:02.000 They barely were able to get Cortez Masto across the finish line these last midterms against Adam Laxalt.
00:07:08.000 We might be able, that was like 5,000 votes.
00:07:10.000 And if we do a little bit of ballot chasing and get Rana Nick Romney fired and get an actual infrastructure, we might be able to sneak by and get one in Nevada. 0.85
00:07:18.000 You got Tammy Baldwin running in Wisconsin. 1.00
00:07:21.000 She's a tough one. 1.00
00:07:22.000 She's tough. 1.00
00:07:23.000 She's lesbian. 1.00
00:07:23.000 They like her there. 1.00
00:07:24.000 She's tough.
00:07:25.000 That's going to be a tough one.
00:07:27.000 But Pennsylvania, Dave McCormick, I like Dave a lot.
00:07:32.000 Dave is going to give that guy a run for his money.
00:07:35.000 What's his court, not Corker?
00:07:38.000 Oh, my goodness.
00:07:39.000 It's been a long week.
00:07:41.000 He's a legacy guy in Pennsylvania.
00:07:43.000 His dad was governor.
00:07:45.000 I'll think of it.
00:07:46.000 Dave McCormick is going to give him a run for his money.
00:07:49.000 So the map has expanded dramatically.
00:07:52.000 Casey, thank you.
00:07:53.000 Bob Casey.
00:07:54.000 Legacy name in Pennsylvania.
00:07:57.000 This is a great map and an amazing opportunity for us to play offense.
00:08:03.000 We are burdened with bad news right now, everybody.
00:08:06.000 And Joe Manchin saying, no, no, I'm not going to run.
00:08:09.000 Guarantees absent a Missouri or Indiana Murdoch or Todd Aiken-esque fumble back in 2012, all but guarantees the worst case scenario for the Senate will be 50-50.
00:08:28.000 That should actually give us a little bit of a sigh of relief, a little bit of a breath that, okay, they probably won't be able to abolish Electoral College, make D.C. and Puerto Rico states.
00:08:38.000 Okay, let's play offense. 1.00
00:08:39.000 Let's take the Senate and let's take the White House. 0.99
00:08:41.000 Let's take the House.
00:08:43.000 This is a shot in the arm and a stimulus that despite all the bad news.
00:08:47.000 And if we get our act together, if we get Ronna McRomney fired or resign, which she should, and we're going to build all that out.
00:08:53.000 Just think about the other races we'll be able to win in the coming years. 0.80
00:08:56.000 Georgia has no business having two Democrat senators.
00:08:59.000 Are you kidding me?
00:09:01.000 John Ossif and Raphael Warnock, we're going to get rid of those guys.
00:09:04.000 The actual Senate map is in the favor of Republicans if we were to play offense.
00:09:10.000 And I know you're saying, oh, but they're a bunch of Republicans and all they're a bunch of rhinos. 0.96
00:09:14.000 I got it.
00:09:15.000 But it's better to control the chambers of power and make it better than to be in the minority, especially if we want a Donald Trump presidency.
00:09:23.000 But now we're going to build out the next layer.
00:09:24.000 That's great news.
00:09:25.000 It is excellent news because Manchin was going to be a tough one.
00:09:28.000 He was going to be a tough race in West Virginia and would require a lot of money.
00:09:32.000 But now we're going to say what Manchin's actual ambitions are.
00:09:36.000 And you got Willard Mitt Romney and Joe Manchin that might have some plans coming up.
00:09:42.000 They might be plotting.
00:09:44.000 What might that be?
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00:10:50.000 There's some good news building, good news building, but we got work to do.
00:10:54.000 We have work to do.
00:10:55.000 We have a dysfunctional, I don't think we have a Republican Party.
00:10:58.000 We will get to that.
00:10:59.000 So Joe Manchin has plans.
00:11:02.000 He says, I'm going to travel the country to see if there is a movable middle.
00:11:08.000 Mobilize the middle is what he says.
00:11:10.000 We're going to mobilize the middle.
00:11:12.000 Now, a donor who I will not name on air, who's a turning point USA donor, received an email the other day.
00:11:18.000 I'm going to read part of it, which is: hello, the 2024 presidential election gets more unpredictable every day.
00:11:26.000 With so much at stake, No Labels is taking the extraordinary steps necessary to get ballot access to potentially offer a viable third choice for president for the American people, should the vast majority of voters continue to demand it.
00:11:39.000 No Labels co-founder name, I don't want to say any names, will be in Southern California next Wednesday.
00:11:45.000 Would you like to meet and talk about putting no labels on the ballot in the future of politics in our country?
00:11:52.000 Can we set a time?
00:11:53.000 That's a private email sent to one of our donors.
00:11:54.000 No labels is moving forward.
00:11:56.000 Now, just so we're clear, no labels is the ultimate consultant grift.
00:12:01.000 It will make the Mike Bloomberg $1 billion campaign effort of 2020 to get like a couple delegates in Guam look like child's play.
00:12:11.000 Consultants are going to be the only winners of no labels.
00:12:14.000 Democrats, Nancy Pelosi included, they are against the whole no labels thing.
00:12:20.000 So Joe Manchin is now saying, well, maybe I will run for the presidency.
00:12:26.000 Maybe I will run as a no labels candidate.
00:12:32.000 So here you have Willard Mitt Romney saying he's not running for re-election in Utah and Joe Manchin not running for re-election in West Virginia.
00:12:40.000 Play cut 152.
00:12:42.000 So President Biden, is he too old?
00:12:44.000 I mean, that's what we're all talking about.
00:12:46.000 It's the elephant in the room.
00:12:47.000 I'd say it's not the age, it's the record, which is, yeah, the rate of inflation has come down.
00:12:53.000 But to the American household, they're looking at the cost of a loaf of bread at six bucks, and they're saying my life has not gotten better under Bidenomics.
00:13:00.000 That's the problem the president has.
00:13:02.000 He does not have people's credibility when it comes to the cost of living in this country.
00:13:06.000 And as a result, they want something different.
00:13:08.000 So unfortunately, President Biden, who is a lovely person, just doesn't have the record to be able to get reelected.
00:13:16.000 Okay.
00:13:17.000 First of all, you guys can't stand that close together.
00:13:19.000 It's really weird.
00:13:20.000 Okay, I don't know who's doing your branding.
00:13:21.000 I don't know who's in charge of that.
00:13:22.000 If you guys are going to run for the presidency, there's got to be some daylight between the two of you.
00:13:26.000 It's like one of the weirdest things I've ever seen in the history of cable television.
00:13:30.000 What is that all about?
00:13:32.000 I'm just going to let everyone fill in the gap.
00:13:34.000 I'm not going to say it because you're already thinking it.
00:13:35.000 So I'm just going to allow you to think what I know you're thinking.
00:13:38.000 So then, you know, they might run for the presidency. 0.98
00:13:42.000 And I guess the message will be, well, Biden's no good and Trump is a criminal. 0.94
00:13:47.000 So let's go to the middle. 0.96
00:13:48.000 Does that hurt Trump?
00:13:49.000 Honestly, at this point, the more, the better.
00:13:53.000 The more candidates, it helps Trump.
00:13:56.000 So let me prove this to you.
00:13:57.000 Put up an image, please, of the Wisconsin election results from 2016.
00:14:03.000 Let's put up this election result from politico.com.
00:14:07.000 Okay, so you guys have seen this.
00:14:09.000 You're familiar with this.
00:14:10.000 Donald Trump won the state of Wisconsin in 2016, but Donald Trump got 1.4 million votes.
00:14:15.000 Hillary Clinton got 1.3.
00:14:17.000 Gary Johnson got 106,000. 0.86
00:14:20.000 Jill Stein got 30,000.
00:14:23.000 D. Castle Castle got 12,000, and it goes on and on and on.
00:14:29.000 Now put up the next one of Wisconsin 2020 election results.
00:14:34.000 Where'd all the candidates go?
00:14:36.000 So according to the official tally, which I know you guys don't believe the numbers.
00:14:40.000 I'm certainly skeptical of them.
00:14:41.000 That's not the point.
00:14:42.000 Donald Trump fell 20,000 votes short.
00:14:46.000 But let's just imagine all these other people were on the ballot.
00:14:50.000 What if Jill Stein, Gary Johnson, Cornell West, the Democrat Party, one of the untold stories of the 2020 election is how the Democrat Party actively sued to keep the Green Party off the ballot and the Libertarian off the ballot.
00:15:05.000 The party of democracy in the 2020 election created Trump v. Biden.
00:15:11.000 No third options.
00:15:14.000 Imagine if everybody else is on the ballot.
00:15:15.000 Donald Trump would probably still be president if that was the case.
00:15:19.000 So in a very straightforward way, more candidates help Trump.
00:15:24.000 He has the largest core of supporters.
00:15:27.000 You got RFK, Cornell West, you got Manchin and Romney.
00:15:34.000 Donald Trump's base is immovable.
00:15:37.000 And now there's another candidate, someone who was called a Russian agent and a spoiler in 2016.
00:15:45.000 He's putting the band back together, everybody.
00:15:52.000 None of this is part of the Democrats' plan.
00:15:54.000 The Democrats want a duplication of 2020, Trump v. Biden.
00:15:59.000 They don't want a buffet line.
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00:17:08.000 There's a new candidate in the race, someone that the Democrats have been trying to prevent from running.
00:17:16.000 Someone who could play spoiler, like how Ralph Nader did in 2000 with Bush v. Gore.
00:17:23.000 One of the untold stories of the last 10 or 12 presidential election cycles is the quiet yet proven impact of third-party candidates.
00:17:38.000 Didn't happen much with Barack Obama, honestly, in 2008 and 2012.
00:17:43.000 That was its own deal.
00:17:45.000 But it certainly happened in 2000 with Ralph Nader in Florida, Bush v. Gore.
00:17:49.000 It absolutely happened with Trump v. Clinton and Jill Stein in 2016.
00:17:55.000 And honestly, the absence of third-party candidates on the ballot via the Party of Democracy largely played a decisive role in them displacing Donald Trump from being president of the United States.
00:18:09.000 The Green Party, they are outright communists.
00:18:13.000 There's just no, there's no other way to put it.
00:18:16.000 They are legit Bolsheviks. 0.60
00:18:19.000 And one of the issues that is animating the Green Party right now is the Palestine-Israel thing.
00:18:27.000 Joe Biden is losing real support over even talking to the Israeli government.
00:18:34.000 The base of the Democrat Party wants nothing to do with Israel because they hate the West.
00:18:39.000 They hate borders.
00:18:40.000 They hate all that.
00:18:42.000 Jill Stein, who the Democrats blamed as being spoiler in 2016, she's putting the band back together.
00:18:51.000 Play Cut 161.
00:18:53.000 People are tired of being thrown under the bus by wealthy elites and their bought politicians.
00:18:59.000 Tired of living paycheck to paycheck, struggling to pay the rent, locked in student debt and medical debt, child poverty doubling, rising diseases of despair, growing hopelessness.
00:19:14.000 The political system is broken.
00:19:17.000 The two Wall Street parties are bought and paid for.
00:19:20.000 Over 60% of us now say the bipartisan establishments failed us, and we need a party that serves the people.
00:19:29.000 I'm Jill Stein, and I'm running for president to offer that choice for the people outside of the failed two-party system.
00:19:39.000 One of the magical things the Democrats did was convince a bunch of commies to go vote for a corporate transactional uniparty regime, Democrat Joe Biden.
00:19:48.000 They did that through creating a pressure cooker recipe.
00:19:54.000 These people are smart.
00:19:56.000 We're dealing with smart people.
00:19:58.000 They're evil, but they're smart.
00:20:00.000 Do not underestimate the cunning precision of the left.
00:20:05.000 So they said, okay, Joe Biden, he can't speak, can't talk.
00:20:07.000 Because remember, we got to go back in time.
00:20:09.000 Like, back it up, back it up.
00:20:12.000 2020 primary, Joe Biden finishes like six in New Hampshire.
00:20:16.000 You know.
00:20:17.000 Pete Amtrak or whatever his name, but a judge or whatever.
00:20:22.000 He allegedly wins Iowa.
00:20:23.000 The whole thing was a mess.
00:20:24.000 Bernie Sanders was ascendant.
00:20:26.000 And the oligarchs of the Democrat Party, Barack Hussein, Obama, Valerie Jarrett, Susan Rice, Laureen Powell Jobs, Mackenzie Bezos, Reid Hoffman, Mark Benihoff, Sergey Bran, Larry Page, all of them, they were very, very worried about Bernie Sanders being the nominee in 2020 and Trump being able to beat Bernie Sanders.
00:20:44.000 They were terrified of it.
00:20:46.000 So then they appointed Joe Biden.
00:20:47.000 They reset the race in South Carolina.
00:20:49.000 They had Clyburn come out.
00:20:50.000 They had this huge thing.
00:20:51.000 People started to drop out and Joe Biden became the candidate.
00:20:54.000 And then the Democrat oligarchs are like, oh, boy, we have a guy who can't talk, can't campaign.
00:20:58.000 Well, thankfully, we're locking down the country.
00:21:00.000 We're going to do the fear and hysteria thing.
00:21:02.000 And they played into it.
00:21:03.000 So they created a European-style vote of no confidence type election against Donald Trump in 2020.
00:21:10.000 They obviously covered up the laptop.
00:21:12.000 They had $400 million come in for Zuckerberg.
00:21:14.000 They changed the election laws.
00:21:15.000 They didn't enforce any of the constitutional measures, but it was only two candidates.
00:21:19.000 I want to put that image back up, please.
00:21:20.000 It's so powerful.
00:21:22.000 The politico tally of Wisconsin election results.
00:21:26.000 There's only two candidates there on the ballot in Wisconsin.
00:21:29.000 And so many people that otherwise would have selected Jill Stein would have selected in a protest vote.
00:21:34.000 They're like, oh, screw it.
00:21:35.000 I'll just do Joe Biden.
00:21:37.000 The fact that other third-party candidates were not on the ballot because the Party of Democracy didn't want them on the ballot hurt Donald Trump.
00:21:44.000 And Donald Trump still, despite all that nonsense, fell 20,000 votes short, everybody.
00:21:50.000 And collectively, 40,000 votes in three states, despite all the nonsense, the shenanigans, the lying, the steam, the cheating, all that stuff.
00:21:57.000 What I'm getting at is now Jill Stein running. 0.78
00:21:59.000 She might get 30,000, 40,000 votes in Wisconsin.
00:22:03.000 Cornell West could get 20,000 votes in Wisconsin.
00:22:06.000 RFK could get, I think RFK is going to appeal from us.
00:22:09.000 We got to get that.
00:22:10.000 We have to educate you.
00:22:12.000 RFK is a Massachusetts liberal.
00:22:14.000 He's a Marxist who happens to be really good on Fauci.
00:22:18.000 Okay?
00:22:19.000 Enough of this RFK veneration.
00:22:21.000 We're done.
00:22:22.000 Okay?
00:22:23.000 RFK, you are basically doing the bidding of the Biden regime.
00:22:26.000 I don't care if you're what a good thing about Fauci.
00:22:28.000 We're done.
00:22:29.000 Okay?
00:22:30.000 The coronation, the veneration of RFK, it's over with.
00:22:32.000 He's pro-trans, pro-abortion, pro-reparations. 0.86
00:22:37.000 He's a Democrat.
00:22:38.000 We got to get his numbers down.
00:22:38.000 We're done.
00:22:40.000 He'll all of a sudden be in single digits and be wondering, where did all my support go?
00:22:43.000 Well, yeah, a lot of people were supporting you because they love freedom and they realize that you're against oil.
00:22:48.000 You're against fracking.
00:22:50.000 You want to be the most pro-trans president ever.
00:22:52.000 You're pro-reparations.
00:22:53.000 It's a disaster.
00:22:54.000 Okay.
00:22:55.000 RFK had an opportunity to do something really righteous, was to continue in the Democrat primary and to really bring the heat to Joe Biden and to try to change the solid Democrat Party.
00:23:04.000 And now he's running as an independent to try to win favor over the same people that no longer like him.
00:23:10.000 RFK is an op.
00:23:13.000 He's an environmental lawyer.
00:23:14.000 He wanted to even seize money of oil companies over global warming. 0.84
00:23:17.000 The guy's a disaster.
00:23:18.000 Okay. 0.99
00:23:19.000 He's an absolute disaster. 0.94
00:23:21.000 Okay.
00:23:22.000 So RFK is running.
00:23:24.000 You have Cornell West running, which I don't really know.
00:23:28.000 What happened to Cornell West?
00:23:30.000 Did they like show up with blackmail or something?
00:23:34.000 That guy has just disappeared.
00:23:35.000 They pay him off?
00:23:37.000 Did he get like a knock on the door from the Department of Justice?
00:23:40.000 IRS? 0.57
00:23:41.000 Somebody got, I mean, Cornell West, he was talking a big game.
00:23:44.000 He was doing all these TikTok videos.
00:23:46.000 I think he's still running, but I don't really see it.
00:23:48.000 Now, Jill Stein's up.
00:23:49.000 Just wait. 0.99
00:23:49.000 They're going to go after her. 0.99
00:23:51.000 But they already kind of have in some ways.
00:23:53.000 So you got Jill Stein, you got Cornell West, and then you got the Manchin-Romney thing.
00:23:59.000 So the Manchin-Romney thing is really, really interesting.
00:24:03.000 The conventional take is that's going to hurt Donald Trump because they'll take away, or it might be Romney Manchin or whatever, take away from Donald Trump because it'll take away from suburban voters.
00:24:14.000 I'm not so convinced of that.
00:24:16.000 Democrats have been padding their totals with upper-middle-class, college-educated suburban voters.
00:24:23.000 If they're going to lose a little bit there, the wine moms in Paradise Valley, right?
00:24:28.000 The Chardonnay sipping, Xanax taking, benzo-addicted, you know, mother of two in Buckhead that's really worried about systemic racism. 1.00
00:24:38.000 Yeah, go vote for Mitt Romney.
00:24:39.000 That's fine.
00:24:40.000 But you know where Trump is all of a sudden maximizing his totals?
00:24:43.000 And this is what is so amazing, the poetic justice of all this?
00:24:46.000 Hispanics.
00:24:48.000 Hispanics and black men. 0.99
00:24:51.000 You're about to see this election in complete bedlam and chaos. 0.79
00:24:56.000 It's an election we can win.
00:24:58.000 What Trump is doing to Hispanics, by the way, I had this unbelievable event at UCLA.
00:25:03.000 And I would say that half of the audience was Hispanic.
00:25:07.000 Half.
00:25:07.000 People coming up with the questions, Charlie, I love you.
00:25:10.000 We love what you're standing for.
00:25:12.000 I mean, this one kid, he said, my family came from El Salvador.
00:25:15.000 This amazing young lady was like, yeah, you know, my parents came here illegally, but I love everything you stand for.
00:25:20.000 And I agree 100%.
00:25:21.000 I'm like, geez, this is something is changing here, guys.
00:25:24.000 Hispanics want a better future.
00:25:26.000 They want family.
00:25:27.000 They don't want crime. 0.70
00:25:28.000 They don't want this abortion stuff from abortion.
00:25:31.000 They don't want trans. 1.00
00:25:33.000 And in Arizona, you do better with Hispanics in Pima County.
00:25:37.000 You do better with Hispanics in the West Valley, in Glendale, and Peoria, in a little bit better in Phoenix and South Mountain.
00:25:44.000 Ball game.
00:25:46.000 And Joe Biden will say, well, you know, I'm going to go try to win people in Mesa and Chandler, and I'm going to try to win them in Gilbert and maybe Scottsdale.
00:25:51.000 Well, if Romney-Manchin are running, they might go there.
00:25:55.000 And Joe Biden was going to be left holding the bag.
00:25:56.000 Now, one of the things you have to watch out for, though, one of the attack factors that's legit against our wishes for Donald Trump to become president and our stated plan is Mitt Romney running for presidency with Joe Manchin and winning Utah.
00:26:12.000 That's a problem.
00:26:13.000 Winning Utah or Nevada or a combination of both.
00:26:16.000 Now, if he wins Nevada, then actually, if he wins both Utah and Nevada, it actually isn't that bad because then it also subtracts in the Democrats.
00:26:24.000 If he wins you, because Nevada is a state that Democrats think they're going to win.
00:26:27.000 And by the way, they both have six electoral votes.
00:26:30.000 Utah six, Nevada six.
00:26:33.000 You might say, well, how could Mitt Romney win Nevada?
00:26:35.000 Serious Mormon population in Henderson. 1.00
00:26:39.000 Big time Mormon population in the suburb outside of Vegas.
00:26:44.000 By the way, Harry Reid wasn't Mormon.
00:26:46.000 Dean Heller, Mormon.
00:26:48.000 Lots of LDS run successfully in the state of Nevada.
00:26:51.000 Huge, huge Mormon population in Nevada.
00:26:56.000 So Romney could potentially win Nevada, Utah, maybe Idaho, maybe, probably not.
00:27:05.000 They're more conservative.
00:27:06.000 They have huge LDS population in Idaho, by the way.
00:27:08.000 And they got a lot of rhinos up there, but probably not.
00:27:08.000 Huge.
00:27:11.000 That one's probably a little bit more of a stretch.
00:27:13.000 Utah is totally in the ballgame, totally.
00:27:16.000 So that would hurt Trump if he wins Utah.
00:27:19.000 It would be a net equal if he wins Utah plus Nevada.
00:27:24.000 But does Mitt Romney really want to be president?
00:27:26.000 No.
00:27:27.000 Mitt Romney is running to try and prevent Trump from being president.
00:27:32.000 Well, we don't know who he's running yet, but it looks like it is.
00:27:34.000 I mean, this is every indicator possible.
00:27:39.000 Two things I want to cover.
00:27:40.000 Regime change at the RNC and this pretty awesome idea.
00:27:46.000 So if the amount of candidates is increasing, then consolidating base of support and trying to find issues or other candidates that could increase your viability would be rational.
00:28:04.000 We are in unprecedented times.
00:28:06.000 Trump is facing 700 years in federal prison.
00:28:08.000 We're going to have five candidates with millions and millions of dollars.
00:28:11.000 RFK, Cornell West, Jill Stein, probably Manchin Romney, Joe Biden, Trump.
00:28:16.000 That's like six or seven.
00:28:16.000 How many is that?
00:28:18.000 And then you might have a libertarian, too.
00:28:20.000 We've never had a race.
00:28:22.000 Let me say this again.
00:28:23.000 We've never had a race with five-plus serious candidates.
00:28:26.000 RFK is going to have tens of millions of dollars. 1.00
00:28:28.000 Jill Stein will have millions of dollars.
00:28:30.000 Cornell West will probably have a couple million dollars.
00:28:34.000 If Manchin Romney run, hundreds of millions of dollars.
00:28:37.000 Joe Biden, billions of dollars.
00:28:39.000 Donald Trump, Donald Trump.
00:28:41.000 Advantage, Trump.
00:28:42.000 It's not like Trump's base is going to say, you know what?
00:28:45.000 You have me, Jill Stein.
00:28:47.000 The Joe Biden coalition is far more fragile.
00:28:47.000 No, no, no.
00:28:50.000 Think about it.
00:28:51.000 The Joe Biden coalition hasn't been tested.
00:28:53.000 The Joe Biden coalition has not been stress tested.
00:28:57.000 They are fragile.
00:28:59.000 The Trump movement is the most anti-fragile political movement in the history of American politics.
00:29:06.000 The candidate itself, himself, is facing 700 years in federal prison, and we're not moving.
00:29:12.000 It's a movement, not a person.
00:29:14.000 We will back him from prison.
00:29:16.000 We've said that.
00:29:17.000 There's a great book by Nassim Taleb, and I've talked about it frequently called Anti-Fragile.
00:29:24.000 It's an unbelievable book.
00:29:26.000 Talks about how some people, some institutions get stronger the more they get attacked.
00:29:31.000 That's the Trump movement.
00:29:33.000 The Biden movement has not been stress tested.
00:29:36.000 The Biden movement is fracturally composed.
00:29:39.000 It's forced together of contradictory parts. 0.98
00:29:44.000 Gays, Muslims, blacks. 0.99
00:29:47.000 It's like, what on earth? 1.00
00:29:48.000 You put all this together.
00:29:49.000 Like, you guys don't even agree on anything.
00:29:51.000 And those fault lines are starting to bubble up to the surface.
00:29:54.000 So I got to be honest.
00:29:56.000 I thought about this at first.
00:29:57.000 I was like, okay, do I love it because it sounds good or do I love it because it's a good idea?
00:30:00.000 I want to win.
00:30:02.000 How do you win in a crowded field?
00:30:04.000 Attention and trust.
00:30:06.000 Who is the second most trusted, the second most popular, the second smartest and principled person in the conservative movement?
00:30:18.000 If he was still alive, it would have been Rush Limbaugh.
00:30:21.000 I think we all agree with that.
00:30:23.000 It is without a doubt Tucker Carlson.
00:30:26.000 Tucker Carlson might be the smartest person in the movement.
00:30:31.000 He is a loyal family man.
00:30:33.000 So the oppophile is there. 0.99
00:30:35.000 Again, okay, you got some text messages about Tucker.
00:30:37.000 It makes me like him more.
00:30:39.000 Okay.
00:30:40.000 He's real.
00:30:40.000 He's honest.
00:30:41.000 He's a true American.
00:30:43.000 And honestly, Trump is one of the few people who could actually be Trump's vice president, who if Trump got put in federal prison or one heartbeat away, he would have the exact same agenda.
00:30:55.000 Could you imagine Tucker Carlson at a press gaggle?
00:30:58.000 Could you imagine Tucker Carlson all of a sudden Dylan Mulvaney at CNN asking him questions, who, by the way, used to work for Tucker?
00:31:07.000 It's hilarious.
00:31:08.000 Play cut 163.
00:31:10.000 Would Tucker Carlson be on your list of potential VPs?
00:31:14.000 And how many names might be on that list as you sit and look and survey the political field?
00:31:19.000 I like Tucker a lot.
00:31:20.000 I guess I would.
00:31:21.000 I think I say I would because he's got great common sense.
00:31:25.000 You know, he's got great common sense.
00:31:28.000 Now, it's just an idea.
00:31:29.000 In a crowded field, you want to consolidate your base and you want to build trust with, you want to win over, by the way, you want to chip away at the RFK thing.
00:31:38.000 You want to win over Rogan bros?
00:31:40.000 You want to win over young people? 1.00
00:31:42.000 Tucker is a magnet for younger voters.
00:31:46.000 Magnet.
00:31:47.000 He is irresistible online.
00:31:50.000 He's smart.
00:31:51.000 He's tough.
00:31:52.000 He goes on these podcasts and they're the best performing ever.
00:31:55.000 He was on that comedians podcast last weekend.
00:31:58.000 It went like super viral.
00:32:00.000 He goes on Milk Boys, super viral.
00:32:02.000 I like it.
00:32:04.000 Tucker could break the RFK Jr. Rogan bro voting block.
00:32:09.000 And there is not an environment where you could put Tucker.
00:32:11.000 Tucker could go on Rogan.
00:32:12.000 He can go on CNN.
00:32:13.000 He used to work at MSNBC.
00:32:15.000 It would literally be a hack.
00:32:17.000 It would break the matrix.
00:32:19.000 I like it.
00:32:21.000 Trump Carlson 2024.
00:32:23.000 Five other candidates.
00:32:24.000 You got the alpha beast Trump and you got a VP that is probably the smartest, smoothest person in the conservative movement that has our trust.
00:32:34.000 Think about it.
00:32:37.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
00:32:38.000 Email us as always freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:32:41.000 Thanks so much for listening.
00:32:43.000 God bless.
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