The Charlie Kirk Show - July 05, 2023


Joy Reid Admits She's a Joke with Darren Beattie and Tom Schatz


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Sen. Bernie Sanders is trying to pass a bill that would force the government to take control of prescription drugs and negotiate prices. If it passes the Senate, it would mean that the government would be able to dictate the prices that patients pay for their drugs.

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00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, Then Charlie Kirk Show.
00:00:01.000 Darren Beattie joins us.
00:00:03.000 And then we also hear from the Citizens Against Government Waste about a terrible bill that is trying to be passed from Bernie Sanders.
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00:00:31.000 Here we go.
00:00:32.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.
00:00:34.000 Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus.
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00:01:15.000 Joining us now is Tom Schatz from the Citizens Against Government Waste.
00:01:20.000 We are doing some things together to get the word out about this bill, Senate Bill 1399, that is passing through the Senate. 0.98
00:01:28.000 Well, hopefully it's not passing, but Senator Bernie Sanders, Marxist Communist Fag guy, is pushing this forward. 0.99
00:01:33.000 Tom, welcome to the program. 0.99
00:01:34.000 Tell us about this piece of legislation.
00:01:36.000 Well, Charlie, thank you very much for having me on.
00:01:39.000 Anything that Senator Bernie Sanders does in relation to health care, as we know, is intended to increase government control over every decision we make affecting the way we choose to take care of ourselves, what doctors we want, what medicines we can predict, how much we're going to pay for them.
00:01:56.000 So his bill, S1339, is a quote-unquote reform bill related to pharmacy benefit managers who help serve 275 million Americans, save them an average of $1,040 every year on the cost of their prescription drugs.
00:02:14.000 And the entire arrangement is voluntarily made by employers, unions, state and local governments, even the federal government, to have the pharmacy benefit managers negotiate prices so that their employees or members can save money.
00:02:33.000 It's pretty simple.
00:02:34.000 And Senator Sanders wants to say, no, we're not going to allow you to do this in the way you've been doing it.
00:02:39.000 So it will cost everybody more and add on layers and layers of more regulations across the healthcare system.
00:02:46.000 Yeah, and so this sounds like something Bernie would be pushing, which of course is try to get us closer to a socialized healthcare, private property confiscation system.
00:02:55.000 And, you know, we've been educating our audience about this.
00:02:58.000 And Senator Sanders is using his newfound power in the Senate.
00:03:02.000 He's always cared about healthcare more than anything else, right?
00:03:05.000 He's always cared about the erosion of liberty and freedom.
00:03:09.000 So talk about what this would mean concretely if this were to pass, right?
00:03:13.000 It's SB 1339.
00:03:15.000 And in fact, we have a call to action for our audience here that I know that we're partnering with you on that I want to make sure people are aware of.
00:03:22.000 It is lowermydrugprices.com.
00:03:25.000 So what would this mean concretely?
00:03:27.000 Well, it means that the pharmacy benefit managers who use tools like rebates and pharmacy networks, they review drug utilization, formularies, specialty pharmacies, they use every tool that they can to help lower prices.
00:03:42.000 Otherwise, why would so many employers and unions and associations and governments use them?
00:03:48.000 They don't have to, but there's evidence that the Government Accountability Office found in 2019 that under Medicare Part D, when the pharmacy benefit managers are utilized, it helps save money.
00:04:00.000 Federal Trade Commission, not this Federal Trade Commission under Lena Kahn, but in 2005 and again in 2014, the Federal Trade Commission also said that pharmacy benefit managers help save money.
00:04:13.000 So no matter what Senator Sanders says about this quote-unquote reform or it will reduce prices, everything he does is intended to set price controls, whether it's to impact research and development of new drugs.
00:04:28.000 He tried to add another list of drugs when they were negotiating the debt ceiling.
00:04:33.000 He's now trying to impact the transfer of technology from universities to pharmaceutical companies.
00:04:39.000 Again, it would interfere with the development of new drugs.
00:04:42.000 It's all about the government controlling everything related to healthcare.
00:04:47.000 Which has always been their goal.
00:04:50.000 So I'm reading the bill here, and Senator Sanders has some Republican co-sponsors, which is really surprising.
00:04:58.000 What the heck is going on here?
00:04:59.000 Why is Bill Cassidy and some of these other people, Mike Braun, partnering with a communist from Vermont?
00:05:07.000 Well, I think there's another issue involved.
00:05:10.000 They are trying to pass legislation that would cap the price of insulin, which is a totally different issue.
00:05:17.000 And then they're trying to tie this in together.
00:05:20.000 That's what may occur as early as next week on the Senate floor.
00:05:23.000 That's why we're trying so hard to stop this from coming to the floor and make sure that Republicans understand that they can either stand with Bernie or stand with the taxpayers, stand for government-run health care, or stand for healthcare choice and let individuals decide what they want to do about how they take care of themselves, what doctors they choose, what kind of pharmacy benefits they want through the people they work for or with.
00:05:52.000 And again, I don't know why.
00:05:54.000 I haven't asked them, but I think that they see quote-unquote reform and they think maybe this is a way to try to set some boundaries, but it's just more regulations.
00:06:04.000 And again, everything about price controls raises prices.
00:06:07.000 We've done extensive work on this.
00:06:09.000 I know people you talk to, it's the same thing.
00:06:11.000 You can't let Senator Sanders get away with this because he'll just keep going.
00:06:16.000 So, yeah, would it then give the power to the FTC?
00:06:20.000 I mean, every bill eventually is just a delegation.
00:06:23.000 So, would this then just give the Federal Trade Commission even more funding and power?
00:06:27.000 Is that correct?
00:06:30.000 Right.
00:06:30.000 So, again, I don't know why any Republican would want to give this Federal Trade Commission any more power.
00:06:36.000 There are no Republican commissioners. 0.96
00:06:38.000 Lena Kahn, who is the chair, is about as far left as you can possibly get. 0.98
00:06:42.000 She's trying to stop every single merger or acquisition, even if it's a small one. 0.98
00:06:49.000 She just doesn't believe in capitalism, to be honest.
00:06:52.000 So, to give them anything would really set up another capability of the FDC to set controls on another industry.
00:07:03.000 Look, they want to go into the privacy business.
00:07:05.000 They want to set privacy rules. 0.61
00:07:06.000 It's not their jurisdiction.
00:07:08.000 And that's just something else they're trying to do.
00:07:10.000 I just don't get why any Republican would want to do that.
00:07:13.000 It's over-regulation, again, would cause people to pay more, cut off the savings they're getting from the pharmacy benefit managers, and just create more controls over healthcare.
00:07:25.000 Well, yeah.
00:07:25.000 And so, if you were, again, I don't trust Bernie Sanders at all, and I know our audience doesn't either.
00:07:30.000 So, if you wanted to have nationalized health care, if you wanted to try and nationalize all the drug companies, wouldn't you then want an intermediary step which makes things more expensive and more chaotic to then one day justify socialized health care?
00:07:45.000 Well, sure.
00:07:46.000 This is, again, a way for him to interfere with what's working.
00:07:51.000 It is an area of the healthcare system, the pharmacy, pharmacy benefit managers that save money, proven to save money, found by federal agencies to save money, including one that would get more ability to regulate it, the FDC.
00:08:05.000 So I just wouldn't do anything that Bernie Sanders wants to do in relation to healthcare.
00:08:11.000 We know his underlying philosophy is socialism.
00:08:13.000 We know it's government-run everything.
00:08:16.000 So again, we're encouraging everybody across the country to go to lowermydrugprices.com, contact your legislator, your senator.
00:08:24.000 It'll connect you once you put in your name and address, and you can send them a letter saying, don't stand with Bernie.
00:08:30.000 Stand with us as taxpayers and keep him away from regulating healthcare.
00:08:35.000 So in closing, what is the timeline here?
00:08:37.000 This thing, they're really pushing this forward quickly.
00:08:39.000 So walk us through what the timeline looks like here.
00:08:43.000 Well, majority leader Chuck Schumer has talked about bringing up this insulin bill and then tying in this other bill, S1339, as early as next week, meaning the week of July 10th.
00:08:53.000 So we are trying to make sure this does not happen.
00:08:56.000 We need to convince enough Republicans, even some of those who have already co-sponsored this bill.
00:09:01.000 Again, not sure why they want to stand with Bernie and the Federal Trade Commission and not the taxpayers.
00:09:06.000 But that's the message we're trying to convey.
00:09:08.000 And we need all the help we can get.
00:09:09.000 And we greatly appreciate everything you've been doing, Charlie, to help us out.
00:09:13.000 Absolutely.
00:09:14.000 Anything Bernie Sanders is pushing needs to be stopped.
00:09:17.000 He is not a good person, and he wants the destruction of the country via our health care system.
00:09:22.000 LowermyDrugPrices.com.
00:09:23.000 Thank you so much, Tom.
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00:10:20.000 Affirmative action is evil. 0.96
00:10:21.000 It is immoral.
00:10:23.000 It is based on two premises that are incorrect. 0.99
00:10:25.000 Number one, that skin color matters.
00:10:28.000 Number two, that somehow your skin color defines your group, therefore some sort of lived experience of the entire group.
00:10:28.000 Actually, three.
00:10:36.000 Not at all having any sort of understanding that you are an individual sovereign being with free will and agency.
00:10:45.000 No, that you're just part of the group and that your destiny is determined.
00:10:48.000 And number three, it has this weight that somehow racism and discrimination is to blame for all the problems.
00:10:57.000 And therefore, we need racism and discrimination to solve racism and discrimination.
00:11:03.000 Now, some people make this argument.
00:11:04.000 They say, well, affirmative action is a bad way to solve a real problem.
00:11:09.000 What is the real problem exactly? 0.97
00:11:11.000 The real problem is that black fathers abandon the women that they impregnate. 1.00
00:11:16.000 Problem is blacks that kill themselves a lot, kill each other in inner cities. 1.00
00:11:21.000 Black crime is a huge problem. 1.00
00:11:22.000 No one wants to talk about it. 0.99
00:11:24.000 It's not racism.
00:11:25.000 The problem is, and I will grant this one, I don't think it's for racism to blame, but it's a big problem, is the failing government schools in inner cities.
00:11:34.000 Maybe we can agree on that, where we can have school choice and actually have a real movement against the cartel unions, but the Democrats don't want any of that.
00:11:42.000 I want to live in a country for the founding fathers envisioned in the Declaration of Independence.
00:11:46.000 All men created equal.
00:11:47.000 You're made in the image of the divine, not the image of your skin color group. 0.58
00:11:52.000 So we've said for a while that Joy Reed, and it's so funny, we were saying this jokingly, but it's so obvious that Joy Reed is an affirmative action case, and people would attack us. 0.96
00:12:01.000 Oh, how dare you?
00:12:02.000 How racist?
00:12:03.000 Or we said, Katangi Brown Jackson is an affirmative action selection. 1.00
00:12:07.000 Same with Cami Harris. 0.99
00:12:09.000 Well, now Joy Reed, the race lady in MSNBC, again, we all knew she was an affirmative action pick. 0.70
00:12:13.000 You look at her show for a couple minutes, like, geez, this is, she is not, it's not a meritocracy play here.
00:12:21.000 There's something else going on.
00:12:22.000 And she disadmits it.
00:12:23.000 She acknowledges it.
00:12:24.000 She says, look, I'm affirmative action.
00:12:26.000 I'm here because of the color of my skin.
00:12:28.000 Yes, we know, Joy Reed.
00:12:31.000 But thank you for acknowledging out loud that you were chosen not because of your intellect, but because of your immutable characteristic.
00:12:39.000 Play cut 15.
00:12:41.000 Just be clear: I got into Harvard only because of affirmative action.
00:12:45.000 I went to a school no one had ever heard of in Denver, Colorado, in a small suburb.
00:12:49.000 I didn't go to Exeter or Andover.
00:12:50.000 I didn't have college test prep.
00:12:52.000 I just happened to be really nerdy and smart and have really good grades and good SAT scores.
00:12:56.000 But someone came to Denver, Colorado to look for me.
00:12:59.000 A Harvard recruiter flew to Denver and I met up with her at the Village Inn restaurant and did a pre-interview to get to pull me into Harvard.
00:13:09.000 I wasn't, I was pulled in.
00:13:11.000 I was pulled in.
00:13:12.000 Harvard should be ashamed for this.
00:13:12.000 What?
00:13:15.000 You fly halfway around the country to go find her?
00:13:18.000 And so it continues that clip.
00:13:20.000 We don't have the whole thing where she says, and then all throughout my freshman year, all these students in class said, people like me are only here because of affirmative action. 1.00
00:13:27.000 And those students were right. 0.98
00:13:30.000 You go through this and Joy Reed says, and I really had a tough time. 0.97
00:13:33.000 You just said yourself that you're an affirmative action case.
00:13:36.000 And you notice she said, she said, I was only there because of affirmative action.
00:13:41.000 And all these other students kept on stereotyping me that I was only here because of affirmative action.
00:13:45.000 But you were only there because of affirmative action.
00:13:49.000 The regime of selecting people based on race is going to collapse the country.
00:13:55.000 Thankfully, the Supreme Court came in and said, you can't do that.
00:13:59.000 One of the biggest reasons why affirmative action is so wrong is it warps relations between people. 1.00
00:14:05.000 She became a race-obsessed head case. 0.85
00:14:07.000 You know why? 1.00
00:14:08.000 Because Joy Reed knows she's not that smart. 1.00
00:14:10.000 She has some self-awareness of her lack of intellect. 1.00
00:14:13.000 So she always had to try to prove herself because people saw through it because they said, this person's a moron. 0.99
00:14:19.000 Obviously, she doesn't reach the standard threshold here. 0.96
00:14:23.000 She's here because of an affirmative action case.
00:14:27.000 Affirmative action gives weight and preference to people that otherwise would not, like she said it herself, I had no business going to Harvard. 0.95
00:14:36.000 The left will always misdiagnose the real problems in education, rejecting actual solutions in favor of fake ones that make things worse at at least four times the cost.
00:14:48.000 And Harvard, apparently, she said, I didn't have any test prep.
00:14:52.000 I didn't, okay, you were nerdy.
00:14:53.000 Lots of nerdy people that shouldn't be going to Harvard. 0.96
00:14:56.000 But no, what Harvard did is because of white guilt.
00:14:59.000 So they sent out their recruiters, Harvard did, under white guilt and a hyper-academic regime of we must make our student body more diverse.
00:15:09.000 I'll be nice in the way I say it.
00:15:11.000 So they sought out people like Joy Reed.
00:15:13.000 And now they have to own, oh, yeah, our notable alumni is Joy Reed.
00:15:18.000 And she even goes onto the clip to say, and Katanji Brown Jackson is an affirmative action case.
00:15:23.000 We knew that one as well. 1.00
00:15:25.000 She couldn't tell us what a woman is. 1.00
00:15:28.000 You read her Supreme Court opinions, she's a moron and an affirmative action pick. 1.00
00:15:33.000 We knew that. 1.00
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00:16:42.000 Joining us now is Darren Beattie.
00:16:44.000 Several stories to cover from Revolver.news.
00:16:47.000 Darren, welcome to the program.
00:16:49.000 Darren, I want to get your initial reaction about this federal judge striking down the censorship regime of the Biden administration.
00:16:57.000 I want your reaction, and I have a very specific follow-up question.
00:17:00.000 Darren, your thoughts.
00:17:02.000 Absolutely.
00:17:02.000 Well, this is the biggest and the most encouraging story in the country, I would say.
00:17:07.000 And usually the biggest story is not terribly encouraging.
00:17:10.000 So we should count our blessings in this case because this is one of the most positive developments for free speech in America in a very, very long time.
00:17:19.000 And I know you've covered this on your program in earlier segments, so I'll share the summary.
00:17:25.000 But I just have to encourage everyone listening: if you have time and you should make time, go and read the memo or at least skim it, because there are some absolute whoppers in there.
00:17:36.000 It's a grand tour through the entire sordid bowels of the censorship industrial complex, from all of the actors personally, institutionally, to all of their most egregious,
00:17:52.000 greatest hits of censorship, ranging from COVID lockdown to masks, to vaccines, to, of course, the Hunter laptop, which the government pressured socials to censor on the pretext that it was some kind of Russian disinformation operation,
00:18:12.000 all the way to this shadowy group that is now exposed to the disinfectant of sunlight called CISA and the EIP and their machinations and what they were doing to suppress conversation regarding the integrity of the 2020 election.
00:18:30.000 And in fact, I've been very, very closely involved with this and following it very closely.
00:18:37.000 And Revolver is featured prominently in the Election Integrity Partnership report called The Short Fuse, in which they chronicle in great detail how so-called conspiracy narratives can take off.
00:18:53.000 And they chose, of all narratives, Revolver News's color revolution reporting, which was a big thing in the lead up to the 2020 election.
00:19:02.000 They featured that very prominently, and it was even taught at universities and so forth as an example of how dangerous disinformation can spread.
00:19:11.000 But what we've learned through the Twitter files and through excellent reporting from, I would have to say, Revolver News, also organizations like Foundation for Freedom Online, is it wasn't just the Yole Roth type.
00:19:23.000 It wasn't just the censorious Commissar trash embedded within the trust and safety departments of the respective social media companies.
00:19:34.000 The bigger story here was this was a result of bullying coming directly from government agencies themselves.
00:19:42.000 And there's some fantastic information in this memo chronicling how Biden officials would really just bully Facebook.
00:19:52.000 Like they would, there's to a Biden White House official, the COVID czar, he would send a message to some Facebook Media employee, say, I still see some posts skeptical of vaccines.
00:20:05.000 What are you guys doing?
00:20:06.000 You need to give me an account.
00:20:08.000 They would send them emails saying there was one case of.
00:20:11.000 A parody account mocking Biden's family, and they got it.
00:20:14.000 The Socials got a stern message from a White House official, take care of this immediately.
00:20:19.000 I'm not kidding, it was.
00:20:21.000 You know.
00:20:22.000 It was a relationship that was far more brutal than you would expect from, like an evil foreman at a factory how they would treat his employees.
00:20:33.000 This was totally brutal, totally one-sided, and it was to the point where Facebook would just flailingly and desperately say, oh I'm so sorry, let us know, we'll incorporate best practices and in fact, they even went to the length of censoring and deboosting, throttling information that didn't violate their terms of service, which were already restrictive, simply to please their government censors.
00:20:58.000 So this judge who made the ruling made the right call.
00:21:02.000 This is a clear violation of the first amendment and a result of this injunction is basically a restraining order.
00:21:11.000 Just in the same way as you might want to put a restraining order between Biden and and and young people.
00:21:17.000 This is a restraining order between Biden administration officials and institutions and social media companies saying you can't contact them for the purpose of flagging information anymore.
00:21:29.000 This is this is an excellent injunction.
00:21:31.000 However, i'm starting to see whispers of this, and this is a predictable outcome and it's a separate case.
00:21:37.000 So attorney general of Arizona, Chris May, says she's just going to ignore the Supreme Court Darren, the Administrative State.
00:21:43.000 I just think they're going to ignore this injunction, and if they do, then it's kind of the old adage, well, let them enforce it.
00:21:52.000 Right, let him send his army.
00:21:55.000 Our we're on some.
00:21:56.000 If the Administrative State ignores this ruling or this injunction, then what?
00:22:02.000 Because I think they're going to ignore it right.
00:22:06.000 Well then, you got to hit them in other places, then you have to hit them in funding, and I think that's going to be the next volley here.
00:22:13.000 The next stage of the battle is uh, bring to bear a very sophisticated and detailed understanding of these organizations, funding sources and go after that.
00:22:24.000 So you know, make no mistake, this ruling is not, you know, the war being won, but I think it is a majorly positive uh development in terms of pointing out and taking a step toward correcting the constitutional abuses that have occurred in the Biden White House and that major component of the censorship story, of which there were many components.
00:22:48.000 No, I certainly agree.
00:22:50.000 I just my fear is that this is going to invoke a constitutional crisis now technically, if they willingly ignore a court order, they could be held criminally uh, for a contempt, but that would take the Department OF Justice and all this.
00:23:07.000 But Darren I, I think the, the liberals demand conformity and obedience.
00:23:13.000 Unless it's a decision they don't like, then it's all out.
00:23:16.000 Resistance absolutely absolutely no, I mean look, you know, if A version of your objection, which is totally valid, is to say it's basically hard, if not impossible, to get anything meaningful done unless we actually control the institutions implicated.
00:23:37.000 And that's basically true.
00:23:38.000 And there's no easier, quick fix to that.
00:23:41.000 These things are just kind of softening them up.
00:23:43.000 They're jabs, they're dabs. 0.93
00:23:46.000 At the very least, it occupies this is something that's occupying far more of their focus and attention and resources than anything in recent months and years. 0.92
00:23:57.000 And that, you know, at least takes up some bandwidth that they would otherwise be using to censor the next thing.
00:24:03.000 So it's a tough battle when you don't control any institutions, which is basically the position that we're in.
00:24:12.000 And so, given that asymmetrical underlying reality, this is one of the most encouraging things I think hope for.
00:24:21.000 Like, think about it this way.
00:24:23.000 Do you think the Trump White House could have bullied the socials in the same way that the Biden White House was?
00:24:30.000 Of course not.
00:24:31.000 So it's all about a who-whom situation.
00:24:36.000 It's tough, it's asymmetrical, but this is, I think, a major and positive step in the right direction.
00:24:43.000 I hope the next stage is to really, really hit them on the funding side.
00:24:48.000 Well, yeah.
00:24:50.000 And so what we're looking at, and this injunction paves the way to what we've already been prepping.
00:24:55.000 And by the way, we have the best lawyers on this.
00:24:57.000 I was singled out through the election integrity partnership where I lost access to my social media.
00:25:02.000 Darren, I think we need now a blitzkrieg of lawsuits because the government was acting illegally.
00:25:09.000 There are provable damages.
00:25:10.000 I lost access to my social media accounts, income damages, reputational damages.
00:25:15.000 I mean, you could go on, right?
00:25:17.000 Wouldn't it make sense now for every one of the violated parties to hit in the courts, especially with this injunction ruling?
00:25:27.000 Basically, the judge has now said it's not a final ruling.
00:25:30.000 The government was acting illegally.
00:25:32.000 Oh, okay.
00:25:33.000 Well, then, people like Charlie Kirk or Dan Bongino, we need to now go sue and put these agencies on defense.
00:25:40.000 Your thoughts, Darren?
00:25:42.000 Absolutely. 0.97
00:25:43.000 I think blitzkrieg, you know, counter-lawfare is absolutely an advisable strategy. 0.99
00:25:49.000 And I think it's worth a substantial amount of resources dedicated to this. 0.92
00:25:53.000 You know, there's not a dearth of money rolling around in the conservative world and the GOP world, but the issue is deploying that capital efficiently to the highest leverage pain points with respect to our opponents.
00:26:10.000 And I think this is absolutely something that deserves a substantial amount of resources and focus to keep them.
00:26:19.000 They're kind of on the defensive, which is not really a posture they've been in in a very long time.
00:26:24.000 And I think we need to keep up this momentum across all fronts.
00:26:28.000 So absolutely, I would advocate a very, very aggressive law fare posture to basically sue the hell out of these guys.
00:26:36.000 Yeah, because remember, this complaint was brought forward by the Attorney General's Office of Missouri, Missouri v. Biden.
00:26:42.000 And so they are probably asking in relief for a suspension of this policy, which is fine.
00:26:48.000 That's great.
00:26:49.000 But what we need now is the victims, myself, Bongino, and others, that can then say, okay, now you have to pay money or whatever sort of damages because the federal government acting in this way, and I'll be honest, Darren, we'll talk about this after the break.
00:27:06.000 I think we're barely touching the surface of how deep their censorship tentacles go.
00:27:12.000 I don't think We're at less than 1% of how widespread the federal government has become in policing speech, becoming traffic cops for wrongthink.
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00:28:30.000 Okay, I want to, Darren Beattie continues us.
00:28:32.000 So, Darren, you have some other stories I want to go to, but I just want to close this.
00:28:35.000 Darren, what is to prevent active measures of censorship in 2024?
00:28:42.000 I think what we need to do, and this is my advice to the senators, is they need to now subpoena these agency officials and get them on the record that they're following the court order because they're going to defy it because there's some workarounds, Darren.
00:28:53.000 Did you notice the workarounds?
00:28:55.000 It was a good ruling, but he said, oh, for national security.
00:28:58.000 Hey, Darren, they're just going to say that we're terrorists and they'll be able to continue to censor us.
00:29:02.000 Your thoughts, Darren Beattie?
00:29:04.000 Well, yes, there were multiple workarounds and loopholes that really are inconsistent with the charges that serve as the basis for the injunction in the first place.
00:29:15.000 You know, the Hunter Biden laptop issue was censored on the pretext of national security, effectively, of foreign disinformation, of foreign election operation.
00:29:28.000 And that's one of the carve-outs for a legitimate reason that the government would communicate with lean on social media company for the purpose of censorship.
00:29:38.000 So they're already abusing the notion of national security.
00:29:43.000 I think, just throw it all out, we know that they're not protecting legitimate national security interests.
00:29:48.000 So just take that off the table completely.
00:29:50.000 Don't even leave that open as a loophole because they've already proven that they're not sufficiently responsible to stick within the actual purview of legitimate national security interests.
00:30:01.000 It's simply a concept that they can abuse in order to censor Americans.
00:30:05.000 That's been proven time and time again.
00:30:08.000 Another interesting loophole was specifically foreign election interference, which again is the three pillars that they mentioned in this election integrity partnership thing.
00:30:20.000 They featured, you know, I mentioned they featured Revolver News coverage prominently.
00:30:24.000 They tried to associate with us with Russian misinformation.
00:30:28.000 That's already something that's been abused and was detailed very thoroughly in the memo itself.
00:30:35.000 And then finally, I have to say one thing says for things that are illegal in relation to election interference.
00:30:44.000 Well, what's illegal these days?
00:30:45.000 Well, what's illegal these days is memes mocking Hillary Clinton.
00:30:49.000 We just had an American citizen who was found guilty for election memes mocking Hillary Clinton for disinformation.
00:31:00.000 And so the loopholes, it seems to me, you know, I wanted to be positive at the beginning because we have so few opportunities to be positive.
00:31:09.000 But you're absolutely right about these loopholes.
00:31:11.000 Is that when you look carefully at the loopholes, each single loophole was already the basis of pretextual abuse that enabled the violations that serve as the reason for the injunction in the first place?
00:31:25.000 So there has to be some other measure because they could simply say we're complying with the injunction and do the same thing they've always done, invoke national security, invoke election interference, the same things that they did the Hunter laptop, same things with COVID, same thing they did with the 2020 election.
00:31:45.000 So the ruling is imperfect.
00:31:47.000 It's subject to abuse and circumvention.
00:31:51.000 Nonetheless, I will maintain that it is a substantial step in the positive direction.
00:31:56.000 One final point I'd say on the fight.
00:31:59.000 This has always been a principle that I think has made our reporting at Revolver.news effective.
00:32:05.000 Attach a specific person or specific persons to the problem.
00:32:10.000 This isn't simply an institutional issue.
00:32:13.000 It's an issue of specific people that we can target.
00:32:17.000 One of them is notorious. 1.00
00:32:19.000 Her name is Renee DeResta, and she has a decorated resume in terms of being involved in the dirtiest operations imaginable. 0.99
00:32:28.000 And just to give you a sense of the type of person who makes a career out of censoring Americans for so-called disinformation, this woman was involved in an organization that set up fake Russian accounts.
00:32:43.000 Those fake Russian accounts supported Roy Moore, who was a candidate in Alabama election.
00:32:50.000 And they used that, the support of the fake accounts that they were controlling as the basis to say that Roy Moore was supported by Russia.
00:32:59.000 That is the cyber equivalent of the Gretchen Whitmer kidnapping case.
00:33:02.000 She's getting kidnapped by federal agents that we're funding.
00:33:06.000 Wait, what?
00:33:07.000 Darren Beatty, Revolver.news.
00:33:09.000 He does a terrific job, Darren.
00:33:10.000 Thank you so much.
00:33:11.000 Thank you.
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