00:00:31.000Karen from Ohio, Arthur from California, Kristen from Illinois, Michael from Michigan, Cheryl from California, Christine from Utah, Sharon from New Jersey, and Terry from Wisconsin.
00:01:30.000His spirit, his love of this country, he's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.
00:01:39.000We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
00:02:14.000Well, I think, I do think that in some cases, you're seeing a huge race breakout for the vice presidential field because this is something that I think has gone a lot unnoticed in the spate of announcements this week that, of course, President Trump, this is kind of an open spot for him, this vice presidential name.
00:02:35.000I've heard a lot lately about Vivek Ramaswamy.
00:02:38.000I've had people reaching out to me about that, say, hey, what do you think?
00:02:41.000Obviously, he's very, very effective communicator, kind of a fresh face, doesn't have the same track record that some of the candidates do.
00:02:48.000And then there's the question of Ron DeSantis.
00:02:50.000And so Ron comes in, obviously, not so much going for the VP slot, but there are conversations also being had about, look, there's a lot of people who like Trump.
00:02:58.000There's a lot of people who like DeSantis.
00:03:00.000People have said, pozo, are you a Trump guy or a DeSantis guy?
00:03:03.000And I said, look, I think Trump's going to win the nomination.
00:03:05.000I think he's the guy to go back and finish what he started.
00:03:09.000But that doesn't mean that I'm going to sit there and say that I didn't support Ron DeSantis' governorship.
00:03:13.000I think he's one of the best governors I've ever seen in my entire life.
00:03:17.000And I made sure to tweet that out during his presidential announcement.
00:03:20.000And I thought he was fantastic on COVID.
00:03:22.000I thought he's been fantastic on a number of other things, fighting the radical left.
00:03:26.000And what I'd love to see, and I've said this before, I'll say it here it again.
00:03:30.000I'd love to see some way that the two of them could make some kind of deal to work out not just a fight over four years, Charlie, but what about the next 12 years?
00:03:40.000Because remember, Donald Trump is term limited to one more term under the Constitution.
00:03:45.000But if he were able to come in, make DeSantis part of the administration, then on the back end, turn around, and then DeSantis becomes president again on the back end or becomes president after, you've got a 12-year potential for a populist nationalist onslaught from the White House, which is what you're going to need because for the first four years, you are going to need someone to come in there and take an absolute wrecking ball to the deep state.
00:04:12.000In order to do that, you have to have someone who's not worried about reelection.
00:04:16.000Because if someone's worried about reelection, and this is going to be true of any politician, they are going to, they are going to temper their hand.
00:04:24.000They're going to temper their actions.
00:04:26.000They're going to try to reach out to everybody.
00:04:28.000But if you've got someone who knows that there is no chance for reelection because the system has term limited you out, that's the person that can actually go in and start pulling down this vast edifice that we've seen erected over our founders' vision, over the Constitution.
00:04:43.000You want to talk about all the ways that the FBI is targeting conservatives, the way the Department of Homeland Security is targeting Turning Point USA.
00:04:50.000Just this very week, we found out, for example, you're not going to be able to get someone to fight the system that much if there's someone who knows that they are looking for their next election, someone who's fundraising, et cetera, all of these different things.
00:05:03.000I'm making the case that in any construction project, the first phase is demolition.
00:05:09.000You bring in someone to do the demolition and then you do the construction after.
00:05:13.000There's a lot of chatter online, DeSantis versus Trump.
00:05:17.000Again, this is not a good week for people out there that want DeSantis in the sense you have this Tim Scott competitor.
00:05:58.000But Jack, I just want to focus on Nikki for a second because the Republican Party has changed quite a lot.
00:06:05.000And so how is it that Nikki Haley went from one of the people that was just being primed for president to now someone where Vivek Ramaswamy, who's been around for six to nine months basically on the scene, is clobbering her?
00:06:46.000We're really going for the Acela corridor type voter.
00:06:50.000This was, you know, and then, and at the same time, the GOP, and you remember this, Charlie, the GOP was going to pivot on amnesty.
00:07:00.000This was a big, Lindsey Graham was a huge part of this, another South Carolina guy.
00:07:04.000And it was this idea that we need to bring Hispanics in.
00:07:07.000And the only way we can get Hispanics in is if the GOP equivocates on amnesty, equivocates on immigration, equivocates on the border, and starts letting people in.
00:07:17.000That was completely flipped on its head through the events of 2016.
00:07:24.000And in doing so, it took people like Marco Rubio infamously, but people also like Nikki Haley who were sort of like, she was, I guess, next in line after Rubio.
00:07:36.000And it sort of just pushed her completely out to the hinterland because, sure, she's got this massive donor base, tons of connections with the military industrial complex to the point where, to the point of where she was actually on the board of Boeing for a while, that she comes back around and says, okay, I'm going to run again.
00:07:53.000And I've built up all the support and I've got a lot of this funding.
00:07:56.000But people are saying, yeah, we're not looking for that type of politician anymore because here's the thing.
00:08:03.000And you saw this in the response to the Twitter announcement with Ron DeSantis.
00:08:09.000In the previous era, in the pre-2016 era, that would have been fine.
00:08:13.000That would have been a fine announcement.
00:08:15.000And then maybe you pair it with a live event, I think.
00:08:17.000I do think that the fact that there wasn't a video rally also kind of made an issue because you need the optics.
00:08:26.000But people were going for that sort of bland, middle of the road, very, very logos-centric policy wonk type politician because we were used to those types of politicians.
00:08:40.000But after the last eight years, the American people and particularly the people of the base and the people of the Rust Belt, the people of the South, they've seen what the real thing is like.
00:08:52.000And they've gotten a taste of actual tangible results because for so many years, and you remember this, Charlie, the conservatives were told that we are not allowed to use the power of the movement to attain direct results, only indirect results.
00:09:06.000And then along comes Trump and says, this is what's going on in your life.
00:09:41.000We're putting together the nationalist populist power block of Bannon's War Room, the Charlie Kirk show, and then the baton gets handed off in the afternoon after you come off to human events where we're going to be breaking down the receipts.
00:09:56.000We're going to be bringing on guests and just taking this thing all the way through.
00:10:00.000So for everybody who's wondering where to go during the day, you just got to watch Rapper.
00:10:29.000And people message me, Charlie, how do you get sleep?
00:10:31.000I sleep great because I get the magnesium I get.
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00:14:09.000And we are going to use like that scene in Independence Day, right?
00:14:12.000When you found out how to take down one of them, you get on the phone and you call everybody else because it turns out that conservatives have finally, to your point, Charlie, it's like flipped a switch.
00:14:23.000And I used to say when we would speak at turning points events, and I would say, I wish I could push an operating system update to conservatives that we can actually take action, that we can do things by voting with our wallets, by voting with our dollars.
00:14:38.000I call it economic warfare against corporate America.
00:14:42.000And we talk about public square every day and these different opportunities for people to go out and find companies that we know are supportive of our values because that's the only way this is ever going to work.
00:14:54.000Look, libertarians have made this argument for years.
00:14:56.000Libertarians will always say, well, you know, just let the free market work it out.
00:15:00.000And if a company doesn't, you know, isn't doing what their consumers want, then, okay, you know, then they'll see the form and they'll be able to come back.
00:15:09.000It's up to us to actually hold the line because, Charlie, what we were sold in the 1980s and the 1990s was this idea that America has got too many standards.
00:15:19.000And America is these moral guidelines are stifling and they're just crazy and they're too hard.
00:15:25.000And what we really need, Charlie, what we really need is to take away all the standards and the morals.
00:15:33.000And that's just some old book that was written thousands of years ago.
00:15:36.000And we don't really need that anymore.
00:15:38.000And so what America did was that they took away all standards and social conservatives and God were pushed all the way to the far side outside of the public square.
00:15:48.000And then all of those church bombs, and you remember this, Charlie, the ones from the 1980s, the ones from the 1990s that warned about the slippery slope.
00:15:57.000They were exactly right because if they could see, and I'm sure they are seeing in some ways, what's going on on TikTok every day, what's going on in places like Target, what's going on at the LA Dodgers right now, they would be sick to their stomach.
00:16:11.000And that's why we as conservatives need to take our dodgers.
00:16:48.000I will give him credit for coming out because, and I think that's a sign, actually, because these are people who don't typically get into the front lines of this culture war, but because the lines have been pushed so far, and I've been very critical, by the way, Charlie, and I know you've been talking about this as well with the Pastor Summit, that we need the church leaders, whether you're a conservative, traditional task.
00:17:10.000We just had our pastor sending us to the next step.
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00:18:28.000Okay, we've been very clear all week about how you should handle Target.
00:18:32.000We should bankrupt them and bring them into Chapter 11.
00:18:35.000Well, the Young Turks, TYT.com, writes this headline, which is pure slander.
00:18:42.000Activist and right-wing host Charlie Kirk used his platform to incite violence at Target for its pro-LGBTQIA plus merch, and social media influencers were happy to oblige.
00:19:09.000We need to go after Target in a very serious way.
00:19:12.000It's time for decent ordinary Americans who do not believe in radical ideas in either direction to say, I will not allow my kid to be corrupted by this trans agenda and look Target.
00:19:52.000And this is the same thing they did with me when we had Riley Gaines on the program.
00:19:56.000And we talked about the pervert Thomas, who undressed in front of the exact same intentional misrepresentation of my stated beliefs, of what we talk about on this program.
00:20:09.000In fact, I say, yeah, I want them to go to chapter 11.
00:20:12.000People say, what does success look like?
00:20:34.000And this is part of the playbook of the left, is that they count on our reaction and the misrepresentation of our reaction to be their action.
00:21:13.000You have satanic, minor-driven content for five, six, seven, and eight-year-olds.
00:21:19.000That's why we are coming after Target with our purchasing power.
00:21:25.000The only way they win is if they're able to misrepresent us and they are able to categorize us as quote unquote domestic violent extremists.
00:21:34.000Joining us now is Darren Beattie from Revolver.news.
00:22:05.000I haven't been to Target in a long time, but even before this thing blew up, I'd have friends send me pictures and such indicating like, what's going on here?
00:22:15.000They have, you know, the children's section.
00:22:18.000They have shirts celebrating, you know, it's way beyond pride.
00:22:22.000You know, pride is, you know, 10 years ago.
00:22:48.000One interesting thing to note, a lot of the anti-Target activism has actually been coordinated on TikTok.
00:22:57.000A lot of angry moms are taking to TikTok and they've caused quite a stir.
00:23:03.000So I think, you know, as much as we criticize TikTok for legitimate reasons, we also need to acknowledge that in this case, it's been a positive organizing tool for moms across the country who have used that platform to bring awareness to this disaster going on at Target.
00:23:24.000Just another, just a heap of contempt displayed for regular American people.
00:23:32.000Yeah, and I mean, we're starting to see it move the dial.
00:23:34.000And I'm going to get to your story at Revolver.news.
00:23:36.000For example, John Amanchukwu, who is a TPUSA faith ambassador, you might have saw the video, Darren.
00:23:42.000He went to a school board black pastor and talked about all the curriculum.
00:23:45.000Chloe Kardashian, of all people, liked that social media post.
00:23:49.000So you're starting to see some sort of changes in the matrix, glitches in the matrix that I think are really positive, especially after the LGBT alphabet mafia rainbow cartel, the trans zealots are going after children to embrace their inner groomer desires.
00:24:03.000So Darren, tell us about your latest story, Revolver.news, about Ron DeSantis.
00:24:08.000Yes, I wanted to, but just one another quick thing about Target is I haven't been following this as closely as many.
00:24:16.000Has the person been, you know, with these, there's always someone who's kind of a driving force in the marketing or has been promoting this.
00:24:23.000Have we attached a name and a face to this profit?
00:24:29.000You're asking the Alinsky question, which is because you must abstract boycotts against brands hit limits.
00:24:37.000But when you personalize, you must attach a name and a face.
00:24:41.000So I'm just blaming the founder, right?
00:24:44.000Brian Cornell, who is awful and he's freaking out right now, by the way.
00:25:12.000It's building greater engagement with both our teams and guests.
00:25:14.000And those are just the right things for our business today.
00:25:17.000Now, I mean, he's doubling and tripling down, right?
00:25:22.000And but just the numbers are speaking for themselves.
00:25:25.000And look, typically markets are somewhat outside of politics, right?
00:25:29.000I mean, it's just, are you turning a profit or not?
00:25:32.000And right now, in the last month, Target is down 11% in market cap, 11%, heading into their holy month of June.
00:25:41.000That is interesting and very encouraging because on one hand, you might say, unlike Bud Light, which is more of a discretionary item in this Biden economy, a lot of people, you know, don't have many options in terms of shopping and have to shop at a place like Target.
00:25:58.000So it's harder to actually do a boycott.
00:26:01.000So the fact that the American people have stepped up and visited this much financial pain on Target despite the difficulty of doing so, I think really says something in this case.
00:26:16.000Well, we have a really fascinating article.
00:26:18.000We all have recognized very early on the problem of big tech censorship.
00:26:23.000And DeSantis recently announced his candidacy.
00:26:26.000And I'm the first one to say I think he's been an excellent and competent governor.
00:26:30.000But there's this idea that he's the policy genius.
00:26:34.000And I think that in the case of big tech, the inside story of his much lauded bill to basically make it possible for users to sue the platforms that have discriminated against them for political reasons, that this was basically a non-starter.
00:26:55.000There are poison pills in this bill that look like they could only have been put in there deliberately.
00:27:02.000And in fact, many people who studied the issue closely, including incidentally, Clarence Thomas, who in an opinion on the case, people remember there was a case where people were launching First Amendment attacks on Trump because he blocked people on Twitter, and that ultimately had to be overturned at the Supreme Court level.
00:27:25.000And in his opinion, Clarence Thomas actually provided extremely sound advice for anyone who wanted to craft a bill along the lines of what Florida was doing.
00:27:35.000Unfortunately, for whatever reason, they completely ignored his advice and the obvious common sense advice of other experts and set up the bill to fail, not only for Florida, but the failure of the DeSantis big tech bill actually was very likely to have negative spillover consequences for other states attempting to do something similar and on a more sound basis.
00:27:59.000So we get into a lot of the inside baseball on that so people can really understand what it entails to do this and some really interesting reasons why DeSantis may have sabotaged his own bill.
00:28:15.000Darren, what do you make of this last week, DeSantis' launch, Donald Trump, Tim Scott?
00:28:21.000How are you processing this last week?
00:28:24.000Well, you know, I've never been impressed with Tim Scott, and he's kind of maybe more of a sideshow.
00:28:31.000As for DeSantis, I've felt that it was a little bit of a dud.
00:28:35.000And the medium is kind of the message.
00:28:38.000And he got, you know, Elon to do a lot of the heavy lifting.
00:28:43.000You know, if you're going to be the guy announcing, you need to be the star.
00:28:46.000And in this case, even, you know, he kind of seemed to have read a script in a spaces announcement, not highlighting the kind of live direct interaction with his would-be voters.
00:28:58.000There's always this sort of intermediated aspect of DeSantis' communication that doesn't emphasize his direct relationship with voters.
00:29:08.000And in this case, it was further kind of diluted by the fact that most people were interested because it was, you know, Twitter and Elon.
00:29:18.000And in fact, a lot of the people who participated in this Twitter Spaces event were there to express their support for Elon Musk.
00:29:27.000So I think on the whole, it was kind of a dud in terms of the launch.
00:29:35.000And of course, there was a technical failure, which I don't know how big of a deal that was, but I think it really does kind of underscore the charisma differential.
00:29:45.000The piece that I talked about underscored that actually on policy, his success is a little bit exaggerated.
00:29:53.000But the charisma differential between DeSantis and Trump is a chasm.
00:30:03.000Being able to connect with people and connect with voters is absolutely critical for someone who wants to lead a movement, which is what a president needs to do.
00:30:15.000And so for that reason and multiple other reasons, I've always been very skeptical about DeSantis's candidacy.
00:30:25.000I've always wanted him to stay in Florida because he does a job as governor and it's suited to his strengths.
00:30:32.000Look, this is now a billion-dollar primary, and it's going to put our ability to win back the White House in severe jeopardy.
00:30:52.000Google searches for phrases including am I gay or am I lesbian have increased by 1,300% since 2004 according to a new analysis.
00:31:02.000So let me first explain how somebody in kind of Normieville will say, well, they say, well, people are now able to further discover who they actually are.
00:31:12.000And this is a great thing because there's more comfort, and this is because of pride, and this is because of the celebratory aspect of this.
00:32:07.000It's a factual thing that when you propagandize through Disney movies, through TikTok, and other things, people will start to look for alternative lifestyles that they otherwise would not do.
00:32:19.000And so when you have an entire generation, it is the gayest generation in history.
00:34:14.000And so I just want to make sure we're clear that most of you, most Americans have somewhat of a relaxed, laissez-faire attitude towards this stuff, albeit simultaneously saying we never should have redefined marriage.