The Charlie Kirk Show - May 26, 2023


Keep the Pressure On! with Jack Posobiec and Darren Beattie


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Darren Beattie joins us and Jack Pasobic for some big announcements and analysis about the 2020 Democratic primary field, including a potential Ron DeSantis run for president, a potential Tim Scott run, and a potential Vaynerchuck run.

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00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, it's at the Charlie Kirk Show.
00:00:01.000 Darren Beattie joins us and Jack Pasobic for some big announcements and analysis.
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00:01:59.000 Jack Pisobic, welcome.
00:02:01.000 So Jack, a lot going on here.
00:02:03.000 For those of us that want to see Donald Trump be the nominee, this was a very good week for him.
00:02:09.000 You got Tim Scott, you got this Doug Burnham character, you got all these people.
00:02:13.000 What's your take, Jack Pisobic?
00:02:14.000 Well, I think, I do think that in some cases, you're seeing a huge race breakout for the vice presidential field because this is something that I think has gone a lot unnoticed in the spate of announcements this week that, of course, President Trump, this is kind of an open spot for him, this vice presidential name.
00:02:35.000 I've heard a lot lately about Vivek Ramaswamy.
00:02:38.000 I've had people reaching out to me about that, say, hey, what do you think?
00:02:41.000 Obviously, he's very, very effective communicator, kind of a fresh face, doesn't have the same track record that some of the candidates do.
00:02:48.000 And then there's the question of Ron DeSantis.
00:02:50.000 And so Ron comes in, obviously, not so much going for the VP slot, but there are conversations also being had about, look, there's a lot of people who like Trump.
00:02:58.000 There's a lot of people who like DeSantis.
00:03:00.000 People have said, pozo, are you a Trump guy or a DeSantis guy?
00:03:03.000 And I said, look, I think Trump's going to win the nomination.
00:03:05.000 I think he's the guy to go back and finish what he started.
00:03:09.000 But that doesn't mean that I'm going to sit there and say that I didn't support Ron DeSantis' governorship.
00:03:13.000 I think he's one of the best governors I've ever seen in my entire life.
00:03:17.000 And I made sure to tweet that out during his presidential announcement.
00:03:20.000 And I thought he was fantastic on COVID.
00:03:22.000 I thought he's been fantastic on a number of other things, fighting the radical left.
00:03:26.000 And what I'd love to see, and I've said this before, I'll say it here it again.
00:03:30.000 I'd love to see some way that the two of them could make some kind of deal to work out not just a fight over four years, Charlie, but what about the next 12 years?
00:03:40.000 Because remember, Donald Trump is term limited to one more term under the Constitution.
00:03:45.000 But if he were able to come in, make DeSantis part of the administration, then on the back end, turn around, and then DeSantis becomes president again on the back end or becomes president after, you've got a 12-year potential for a populist nationalist onslaught from the White House, which is what you're going to need because for the first four years, you are going to need someone to come in there and take an absolute wrecking ball to the deep state.
00:04:11.000 And I'll tell you something, Charlie.
00:04:12.000 In order to do that, you have to have someone who's not worried about reelection.
00:04:16.000 Because if someone's worried about reelection, and this is going to be true of any politician, they are going to, they are going to temper their hand.
00:04:24.000 They're going to temper their actions.
00:04:26.000 They're going to try to reach out to everybody.
00:04:28.000 But if you've got someone who knows that there is no chance for reelection because the system has term limited you out, that's the person that can actually go in and start pulling down this vast edifice that we've seen erected over our founders' vision, over the Constitution.
00:04:43.000 You want to talk about all the ways that the FBI is targeting conservatives, the way the Department of Homeland Security is targeting Turning Point USA.
00:04:50.000 Just this very week, we found out, for example, you're not going to be able to get someone to fight the system that much if there's someone who knows that they are looking for their next election, someone who's fundraising, et cetera, all of these different things.
00:05:03.000 I'm making the case that in any construction project, the first phase is demolition.
00:05:09.000 You bring in someone to do the demolition and then you do the construction after.
00:05:13.000 There's a lot of chatter online, DeSantis versus Trump.
00:05:17.000 Again, this is not a good week for people out there that want DeSantis in the sense you have this Tim Scott competitor.
00:05:22.000 You got Glenn Young, Doug Burnham.
00:05:24.000 You already have Asa Hutchinson.
00:05:25.000 I want to actually focus on something that for me personally, I think no one is talking about, which is where is Nikki Haley?
00:05:32.000 Is she in the witness protection program?
00:05:35.000 I mean, we invited her to our event in ACTCON, and she has conflicts somewhere else.
00:05:44.000 Apparently, there's another confab, I guess, of tens of thousands of voters and millions of impressions online that she could talk to.
00:05:52.000 But she's always been very sweet to me.
00:05:55.000 She spoke at some of our events.
00:05:56.000 We disagree vehemently.
00:05:56.000 That's fine.
00:05:58.000 But Jack, I just want to focus on Nikki for a second because the Republican Party has changed quite a lot.
00:06:05.000 And so how is it that Nikki Haley went from one of the people that was just being primed for president to now someone where Vivek Ramaswamy, who's been around for six to nine months basically on the scene, is clobbering her?
00:06:20.000 Help me make sense of that, Jack.
00:06:22.000 So what you're referring to, and I remember this very, very well in Pennsylvania.
00:06:22.000 Yeah, Charlie.
00:06:26.000 I mean, she was riding this path where it seemed like she was the heir apparent.
00:06:31.000 It was Marco Rubio.
00:06:33.000 Okay, this is the pre-Trump era.
00:06:34.000 So this is sort of that post-Romney.
00:06:36.000 So Romney loses, McCain loses this Romney-Ryan plan, this idea of we're going to cut all the entitlements and we're going to tax cuts.
00:06:44.000 War Party, the technocracy.
00:06:46.000 We're really going for the Acela corridor type voter.
00:06:50.000 This was, you know, and then, and at the same time, the GOP, and you remember this, Charlie, the GOP was going to pivot on amnesty.
00:07:00.000 This was a big, Lindsey Graham was a huge part of this, another South Carolina guy. 0.76
00:07:04.000 And it was this idea that we need to bring Hispanics in.
00:07:07.000 And the only way we can get Hispanics in is if the GOP equivocates on amnesty, equivocates on immigration, equivocates on the border, and starts letting people in. 0.89
00:07:17.000 That was completely flipped on its head through the events of 2016.
00:07:24.000 And in doing so, it took people like Marco Rubio infamously, but people also like Nikki Haley who were sort of like, she was, I guess, next in line after Rubio.
00:07:35.000 She would have been next in line.
00:07:36.000 And it sort of just pushed her completely out to the hinterland because, sure, she's got this massive donor base, tons of connections with the military industrial complex to the point where, to the point of where she was actually on the board of Boeing for a while, that she comes back around and says, okay, I'm going to run again.
00:07:53.000 And I've built up all the support and I've got a lot of this funding.
00:07:56.000 But people are saying, yeah, we're not looking for that type of politician anymore because here's the thing.
00:08:03.000 And you saw this in the response to the Twitter announcement with Ron DeSantis.
00:08:09.000 In the previous era, in the pre-2016 era, that would have been fine.
00:08:13.000 That would have been a fine announcement.
00:08:15.000 And then maybe you pair it with a live event, I think.
00:08:17.000 I do think that the fact that there wasn't a video rally also kind of made an issue because you need the optics.
00:08:24.000 You always need the optics.
00:08:26.000 But people were going for that sort of bland, middle of the road, very, very logos-centric policy wonk type politician because we were used to those types of politicians.
00:08:40.000 But after the last eight years, the American people and particularly the people of the base and the people of the Rust Belt, the people of the South, they've seen what the real thing is like.
00:08:52.000 And they've gotten a taste of actual tangible results because for so many years, and you remember this, Charlie, the conservatives were told that we are not allowed to use the power of the movement to attain direct results, only indirect results.
00:09:06.000 And then along comes Trump and says, this is what's going on in your life.
00:09:09.000 And I'm going to fix it for you.
00:09:11.000 And here's how we're going to do it.
00:09:12.000 And we're going to fight government every step of the way.
00:09:14.000 And then he actually goes and does it.
00:09:16.000 And so once you've had a taste of something like that, how do you even turn around and go back to the way things were before?
00:09:23.000 It just doesn't make sense.
00:09:24.000 Jack Bosobic has your show coming up at 2 p.m. Eastern.
00:09:27.000 When does that start, Jack?
00:09:29.000 So that will start on Tuesday.
00:09:31.000 So not today, but starting Tuesday, we've got the new show lined up.
00:09:35.000 Look, 2024 is gearing up and it's time to fire on all cylinders.
00:09:39.000 So human events is coming at daytime.
00:09:41.000 We're putting together the nationalist populist power block of Bannon's War Room, the Charlie Kirk show, and then the baton gets handed off in the afternoon after you come off to human events where we're going to be breaking down the receipts.
00:09:56.000 We're going to be bringing on guests and just taking this thing all the way through.
00:10:00.000 So for everybody who's wondering where to go during the day, you just got to watch Rapper.
00:10:04.000 That's right.
00:10:04.000 It's Real America's Voice.
00:10:05.000 I mean, you literally have Bannon at 10 a.m. and our program at noon, you at 2.
00:10:10.000 So from 10 to 3, that's five hours of midday programming, everybody.
00:10:14.000 Show me another lineup that comes even close to that, right?
00:10:18.000 I mean, that's powerful and it's going to be really big, Jack.
00:10:22.000 We're excited for that.
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00:11:53.000 Keep the pressure on.
00:11:56.000 Saul Linsky's Rules for Radicals.
00:11:58.000 Welcome back.
00:11:59.000 Jack Pasobic is with us.
00:12:01.000 Jack, Target, we need to talk about this.
00:12:04.000 Target has currently lost $9 billion.
00:12:09.000 That's right.
00:12:10.000 $9 billion in market cap.
00:12:12.000 $9 billion.
00:12:13.000 They're at their lowest stock point in three years.
00:12:17.000 The boycotts are working.
00:12:19.000 Cut 105, here's a Target employee who says that they support Satan and they support Pride.
00:12:26.000 And by the way, just so we're clear, part of the backlash to Target is they also had outwardly pro-satanic clothing.
00:12:35.000 Play Cut 105.
00:12:38.000 Support the satanic pride propaganda? 0.97
00:12:41.000 Yeah, both.
00:12:42.000 You support it?
00:12:43.000 Satan and Pride. 0.56
00:12:44.000 You support Satan?
00:12:46.000 What's God going to think of that?
00:12:47.000 I don't believe in God.
00:12:49.000 Do you support this?
00:12:49.000 I'm not taking any questions, but if you're here to cause any disturbance in this.
00:12:52.000 I'm just asking questions.
00:12:53.000 Do you work for TG?
00:12:55.000 Do you work for Target?
00:12:55.000 I do, actually.
00:12:56.000 Where's your name tag?
00:12:57.000 I am the undercover boss prevention.
00:12:59.000 Oh, okay.
00:13:00.000 So, what you need to do is you either need to leave the store.
00:13:05.000 God will judge you guys.
00:13:06.000 Okay.
00:13:06.000 I mean, I can't won't quite hope we can.
00:13:10.000 Undercover loss protection.
00:13:11.000 Why don't you go stop, I don't know, swarms of criminals from looting instead of somebody asking questions about Satan and Pride.
00:13:18.000 Jack, there's something changing in the air, and I like it.
00:13:22.000 Ordinary people are now delivering a spicy punch to these corporations.
00:13:28.000 Jack Pasobic.
00:13:30.000 Charlie, we need more.
00:13:31.000 We need more of this.
00:13:32.000 And USA Today has come out and actually given a name to it.
00:13:36.000 They're calling it Bud Lighting.
00:13:39.000 And in the USA Today's article from yesterday, Bud Lighted.
00:13:43.000 Target is the latest to face boycotts over support for the LGBTQ plus community.
00:13:48.000 Now, what's interesting to me is that that's not, of course, they're always going to spin this as actually what the boycott is over about.
00:13:56.000 It's about shoving it in your face and it's about tying this to Satanism and tying it to transgender ideology for children. 0.98
00:14:05.000 But beyond that, Bud Lighting works.
00:14:09.000 And we are going to use like that scene in Independence Day, right?
00:14:12.000 When you found out how to take down one of them, you get on the phone and you call everybody else because it turns out that conservatives have finally, to your point, Charlie, it's like flipped a switch.
00:14:23.000 And I used to say when we would speak at turning points events, and I would say, I wish I could push an operating system update to conservatives that we can actually take action, that we can do things by voting with our wallets, by voting with our dollars.
00:14:38.000 I call it economic warfare against corporate America.
00:14:42.000 And we talk about public square every day and these different opportunities for people to go out and find companies that we know are supportive of our values because that's the only way this is ever going to work.
00:14:54.000 Look, libertarians have made this argument for years.
00:14:56.000 Libertarians will always say, well, you know, just let the free market work it out.
00:15:00.000 And if a company doesn't, you know, isn't doing what their consumers want, then, okay, you know, then they'll see the form and they'll be able to come back.
00:15:08.000 Great, fine.
00:15:09.000 It's up to us to actually hold the line because, Charlie, what we were sold in the 1980s and the 1990s was this idea that America has got too many standards.
00:15:19.000 And America is these moral guidelines are stifling and they're just crazy and they're too hard.
00:15:25.000 And what we really need, Charlie, what we really need is to take away all the standards and the morals.
00:15:31.000 And they come from the Bible.
00:15:33.000 And that's just some old book that was written thousands of years ago.
00:15:36.000 And we don't really need that anymore.
00:15:38.000 And so what America did was that they took away all standards and social conservatives and God were pushed all the way to the far side outside of the public square.
00:15:48.000 And then all of those church bombs, and you remember this, Charlie, the ones from the 1980s, the ones from the 1990s that warned about the slippery slope.
00:15:56.000 You know what?
00:15:57.000 They were exactly right because if they could see, and I'm sure they are seeing in some ways, what's going on on TikTok every day, what's going on in places like Target, what's going on at the LA Dodgers right now, they would be sick to their stomach.
00:16:11.000 And that's why we as conservatives need to take our dodgers. 0.85
00:16:15.000 Jack, tell us about the Dodgers.
00:16:16.000 Producer Andrew's a huge Dodgers fan, so he hates this segment.
00:16:20.000 They're celebrating drag nuns and trans Jesus. 0.95
00:16:22.000 They're celebrating drag nuns and trans Jesus. 0.95
00:16:25.000 They're going to put on, I don't know if they're going to be performing there.
00:16:27.000 No, I think they're giving them an award, though.
00:16:29.000 This is not, they are recognizing and honoring them.
00:16:33.000 This is an award for an organization that exists as a hate group targeting Christians and in particular Catholics.
00:16:41.000 And Bishop Barron stays out of this.
00:16:46.000 He's going right into it.
00:16:47.000 I love Bishop.
00:16:48.000 I will give him credit for coming out because, and I think that's a sign, actually, because these are people who don't typically get into the front lines of this culture war, but because the lines have been pushed so far, and I've been very critical, by the way, Charlie, and I know you've been talking about this as well with the Pastor Summit, that we need the church leaders, whether you're a conservative, traditional task.
00:17:10.000 We just had our pastor sending us to the next step.
00:17:11.000 You need to kind of get this fight.
00:17:13.000 Jackie, congrats.
00:17:14.000 On Tuesday, day after Memorial Day, Jack Pesobic at 2 p.m. right after our program.
00:17:19.000 Honored to have him continue the energy and the flow.
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00:17:28.000 Hey, everybody, Charlie Kirk here.
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00:18:28.000 Okay, we've been very clear all week about how you should handle Target.
00:18:32.000 We should bankrupt them and bring them into Chapter 11.
00:18:35.000 Well, the Young Turks, TYT.com, writes this headline, which is pure slander.
00:18:42.000 Activist and right-wing host Charlie Kirk used his platform to incite violence at Target for its pro-LGBTQIA plus merch, and social media influencers were happy to oblige.
00:18:56.000 This is a lie.
00:18:58.000 We never said anything close to that.
00:19:00.000 In fact, the actual transcript is as follows.
00:19:04.000 We need to go after Target in a very serious way.
00:19:07.000 I'll read you.
00:19:08.000 You guys saw the program.
00:19:09.000 We need to go after Target in a very serious way.
00:19:12.000 It's time for decent ordinary Americans who do not believe in radical ideas in either direction to say, I will not allow my kid to be corrupted by this trans agenda and look Target. 0.93
00:19:20.000 It looks like they're caving.
00:19:22.000 They say they want to put clothes in the back.
00:19:24.000 I want Target to go bankrupt.
00:19:24.000 I don't want.
00:19:26.000 I want Chapter 11.
00:19:26.000 I want them to close.
00:19:28.000 It's time to keep the pressure on.
00:19:30.000 Now, they're just misrepresenting one of the essence of what I say is that all they understand is force.
00:19:36.000 Yeah, of course, all they understand is force.
00:19:38.000 The force of a movement, not physical violent force.
00:19:42.000 You know, there's multiple definitions of force.
00:19:46.000 They're intentionally lying about me, the young Turks. 1.00
00:19:48.000 And by the way, we have our lawyers already on this.
00:19:50.000 I've never said violence.
00:19:52.000 And this is the same thing they did with me when we had Riley Gaines on the program.
00:19:56.000 And we talked about the pervert Thomas, who undressed in front of the exact same intentional misrepresentation of my stated beliefs, of what we talk about on this program.
00:20:09.000 In fact, I say, yeah, I want them to go to chapter 11.
00:20:12.000 People say, what does success look like?
00:20:14.000 Chapter 11.
00:20:16.000 The only thing they understand is force.
00:20:18.000 Pain is a teacher and the pain of crossing the line of perverting our children and grooming them.
00:20:23.000 It's going to be a lesson I hope corporate America watches because ordinary America is pushing back.
00:20:28.000 We must push for bankruptcy of Target.
00:20:30.000 Make it happen, everybody.
00:20:32.000 It's called a free market.
00:20:34.000 And this is part of the playbook of the left, is that they count on our reaction and the misrepresentation of our reaction to be their action.
00:20:43.000 You type in Target right now.
00:20:45.000 You will see non-stop PR propaganda defending Target.
00:20:50.000 I'll just read some of the headlines and we have Darren Beattie coming.
00:20:52.000 Target pulls pride items after employees threatened.
00:20:55.000 Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
00:20:56.000 Employees aren't being threatened. 0.99
00:20:57.000 Stop playing the victim groomer, Target, you perverts. 0.96
00:21:02.000 Anti-LGBTQ threats lead Target to pull Pride Month merchandise. 0.96
00:21:07.000 Target becomes latest companies suffer backlash for LGBTQ support.
00:21:10.000 No, no, no.
00:21:11.000 It's not about LGBT support.
00:21:13.000 You have satanic, minor-driven content for five, six, seven, and eight-year-olds.
00:21:19.000 That's why we are coming after Target with our purchasing power.
00:21:25.000 The only way they win is if they're able to misrepresent us and they are able to categorize us as quote unquote domestic violent extremists.
00:21:34.000 Joining us now is Darren Beattie from Revolver.news.
00:21:37.000 Darren, welcome to the program.
00:21:38.000 Darren, any initial thoughts on the Target situation?
00:21:41.000 It feels like they're really feeling the pain.
00:21:43.000 I believe we're finally seeing the consolidated punch and purchasing power of the American right.
00:21:48.000 Your thoughts?
00:21:49.000 Absolutely.
00:21:50.000 I think this is set up to perhaps be another Bud Light situation, maybe even more damaging to Target.
00:21:58.000 The uproar is severe, but entirely justified.
00:22:03.000 I mean, it's pretty crazy.
00:22:05.000 I haven't been to Target in a long time, but even before this thing blew up, I'd have friends send me pictures and such indicating like, what's going on here?
00:22:15.000 They have, you know, the children's section.
00:22:18.000 They have shirts celebrating, you know, it's way beyond pride.
00:22:22.000 You know, pride is, you know, 10 years ago.
00:22:25.000 Now it's transgender stuff. 0.98
00:22:27.000 Now it's dragging stuff that's sort of the default for the mannequins at the children's section, which is, you know, crazy.
00:22:36.000 And so people are catching wind of this.
00:22:38.000 And now it seems like, you know, the uproar has reached a stage that it's kind of critical, critical velocity here.
00:22:46.000 And I hope it continues.
00:22:48.000 One interesting thing to note, a lot of the anti-Target activism has actually been coordinated on TikTok.
00:22:57.000 A lot of angry moms are taking to TikTok and they've caused quite a stir.
00:23:03.000 So I think, you know, as much as we criticize TikTok for legitimate reasons, we also need to acknowledge that in this case, it's been a positive organizing tool for moms across the country who have used that platform to bring awareness to this disaster going on at Target.
00:23:24.000 Just another, just a heap of contempt displayed for regular American people.
00:23:32.000 Yeah, and I mean, we're starting to see it move the dial.
00:23:34.000 And I'm going to get to your story at Revolver.news.
00:23:36.000 For example, John Amanchukwu, who is a TPUSA faith ambassador, you might have saw the video, Darren.
00:23:42.000 He went to a school board black pastor and talked about all the curriculum.
00:23:45.000 Chloe Kardashian, of all people, liked that social media post.
00:23:49.000 So you're starting to see some sort of changes in the matrix, glitches in the matrix that I think are really positive, especially after the LGBT alphabet mafia rainbow cartel, the trans zealots are going after children to embrace their inner groomer desires. 1.00
00:24:03.000 So Darren, tell us about your latest story, Revolver.news, about Ron DeSantis.
00:24:07.000 It's very interesting.
00:24:08.000 Yes, I wanted to, but just one another quick thing about Target is I haven't been following this as closely as many.
00:24:16.000 Has the person been, you know, with these, there's always someone who's kind of a driving force in the marketing or has been promoting this.
00:24:23.000 Have we attached a name and a face to this profit?
00:24:29.000 You're asking the Alinsky question, which is because you must abstract boycotts against brands hit limits.
00:24:37.000 But when you personalize, you must attach a name and a face.
00:24:41.000 So I'm just blaming the founder, right?
00:24:44.000 Brian Cornell, who is awful and he's freaking out right now, by the way.
00:24:50.000 And he says this.
00:24:51.000 So just so you know, Target CEO says that the emphasis on LGBT issues and diversity is a good business decision.
00:24:59.000 He says we are going to stand by our bold commitments.
00:25:02.000 And that's it.
00:25:03.000 He says that DEI has funded growth and sales.
00:25:07.000 He said the things we've done from a DEI standpoint, it's adding value.
00:25:10.000 It's helping us drive sales.
00:25:12.000 It's building greater engagement with both our teams and guests.
00:25:14.000 And those are just the right things for our business today.
00:25:17.000 Now, I mean, he's doubling and tripling down, right?
00:25:22.000 And but just the numbers are speaking for themselves.
00:25:25.000 And look, typically markets are somewhat outside of politics, right?
00:25:29.000 I mean, it's just, are you turning a profit or not?
00:25:32.000 And right now, in the last month, Target is down 11% in market cap, 11%, heading into their holy month of June.
00:25:41.000 That is interesting and very encouraging because on one hand, you might say, unlike Bud Light, which is more of a discretionary item in this Biden economy, a lot of people, you know, don't have many options in terms of shopping and have to shop at a place like Target.
00:25:58.000 So it's harder to actually do a boycott.
00:26:01.000 So the fact that the American people have stepped up and visited this much financial pain on Target despite the difficulty of doing so, I think really says something in this case.
00:26:13.000 Please tell us about your article.
00:26:15.000 Yes.
00:26:16.000 Well, we have a really fascinating article.
00:26:18.000 We all have recognized very early on the problem of big tech censorship.
00:26:23.000 And DeSantis recently announced his candidacy.
00:26:26.000 And I'm the first one to say I think he's been an excellent and competent governor.
00:26:30.000 But there's this idea that he's the policy genius.
00:26:34.000 And I think that in the case of big tech, the inside story of his much lauded bill to basically make it possible for users to sue the platforms that have discriminated against them for political reasons, that this was basically a non-starter.
00:26:55.000 There are poison pills in this bill that look like they could only have been put in there deliberately.
00:27:02.000 And in fact, many people who studied the issue closely, including incidentally, Clarence Thomas, who in an opinion on the case, people remember there was a case where people were launching First Amendment attacks on Trump because he blocked people on Twitter, and that ultimately had to be overturned at the Supreme Court level.
00:27:25.000 And in his opinion, Clarence Thomas actually provided extremely sound advice for anyone who wanted to craft a bill along the lines of what Florida was doing.
00:27:35.000 Unfortunately, for whatever reason, they completely ignored his advice and the obvious common sense advice of other experts and set up the bill to fail, not only for Florida, but the failure of the DeSantis big tech bill actually was very likely to have negative spillover consequences for other states attempting to do something similar and on a more sound basis.
00:27:59.000 So we get into a lot of the inside baseball on that so people can really understand what it entails to do this and some really interesting reasons why DeSantis may have sabotaged his own bill.
00:28:15.000 Darren, what do you make of this last week, DeSantis' launch, Donald Trump, Tim Scott?
00:28:21.000 How are you processing this last week?
00:28:24.000 Well, you know, I've never been impressed with Tim Scott, and he's kind of maybe more of a sideshow.
00:28:31.000 As for DeSantis, I've felt that it was a little bit of a dud.
00:28:35.000 And the medium is kind of the message.
00:28:38.000 And he got, you know, Elon to do a lot of the heavy lifting.
00:28:43.000 You know, if you're going to be the guy announcing, you need to be the star.
00:28:46.000 And in this case, even, you know, he kind of seemed to have read a script in a spaces announcement, not highlighting the kind of live direct interaction with his would-be voters.
00:28:58.000 There's always this sort of intermediated aspect of DeSantis' communication that doesn't emphasize his direct relationship with voters.
00:29:08.000 And in this case, it was further kind of diluted by the fact that most people were interested because it was, you know, Twitter and Elon.
00:29:18.000 And in fact, a lot of the people who participated in this Twitter Spaces event were there to express their support for Elon Musk.
00:29:27.000 So I think on the whole, it was kind of a dud in terms of the launch.
00:29:35.000 And of course, there was a technical failure, which I don't know how big of a deal that was, but I think it really does kind of underscore the charisma differential.
00:29:45.000 The piece that I talked about underscored that actually on policy, his success is a little bit exaggerated.
00:29:53.000 But the charisma differential between DeSantis and Trump is a chasm.
00:30:01.000 It's a Grand Canyon.
00:30:03.000 Being able to connect with people and connect with voters is absolutely critical for someone who wants to lead a movement, which is what a president needs to do.
00:30:15.000 And so for that reason and multiple other reasons, I've always been very skeptical about DeSantis's candidacy.
00:30:25.000 I've always wanted him to stay in Florida because he does a job as governor and it's suited to his strengths.
00:30:32.000 Look, this is now a billion-dollar primary, and it's going to put our ability to win back the White House in severe jeopardy.
00:30:37.000 Darren, thank you so much.
00:30:38.000 Check out Revolver.news.
00:30:39.000 Thank you.
00:30:40.000 Thank you.
00:30:42.000 All right.
00:30:43.000 Let's get through a couple things here.
00:30:46.000 This is politically incorrect. 0.75
00:30:48.000 So buckle up.
00:30:49.000 Happy Friday, right, Blake?
00:30:50.000 We always have fun on Fridays.
00:30:52.000 Google searches for phrases including am I gay or am I lesbian have increased by 1,300% since 2004 according to a new analysis.
00:31:02.000 So let me first explain how somebody in kind of Normieville will say, well, they say, well, people are now able to further discover who they actually are.
00:31:12.000 And this is a great thing because there's more comfort, and this is because of pride, and this is because of the celebratory aspect of this.
00:31:20.000 And this is great.
00:31:22.000 There's nothing unusual about this.
00:31:24.000 There's nothing troubling about this.
00:31:25.000 Yeah, their argument is basically naturally one in three, one in four, one in five people are queer, gay, lesbian, trans, or whatever.
00:31:36.000 This is a lie.
00:31:38.000 Okay?
00:31:38.000 If you talk to any person who actually honestly remembers growing up in the 40s or 50s or 60s, this is a lie.
00:31:44.000 They were not widespread trans people.
00:31:46.000 Yes, there have always been people that have same sex attraction.
00:31:49.000 Is it 20% of the population?
00:31:52.000 Is it 30% of the population?
00:31:54.000 Is it 40% of the population?
00:31:57.000 No.
00:31:57.000 And so there is a social contagion aspect to this.
00:32:01.000 And I'm not saying this in a necessarily negative way.
00:32:04.000 It's a factual thing.
00:32:06.000 Okay.
00:32:07.000 It's a factual thing that when you propagandize through Disney movies, through TikTok, and other things, people will start to look for alternative lifestyles that they otherwise would not do.
00:32:19.000 And so when you have an entire generation, it is the gayest generation in history. 1.00
00:32:23.000 It's like one in three.
00:32:24.000 It's one in five, right?
00:32:25.000 One in five young people identify either as trans, bi, lesbian, gay, whatever.
00:32:32.000 Yeah, that should probably make you press pause and say, is this a healthy thing for society?
00:32:37.000 And it's very funny.
00:32:38.000 People say, well, Charlie, why do you care?
00:32:40.000 Well, you care.
00:32:40.000 You're the ones that are talking about this all the time.
00:32:43.000 So obviously you care.
00:32:44.000 So don't get mad at us for us caring too.
00:32:47.000 That's what I always laugh is: they say, Charlie, why do you care that a guy walks around in a dress?
00:32:51.000 Well, you obviously care so much, you make an entire month out of it, and you talk about it all the time.
00:32:57.000 So caring is not a disqualification for engaging in the conversation, okay?
00:33:02.000 And I think most Americans' temperament is this.
00:33:04.000 I think most of the audience on this issue is this.
00:33:07.000 I don't think you're overly interested in people's private sexual behaviors.
00:33:13.000 My temperament is the country I grew up in.
00:33:15.000 Live and let live.
00:33:16.000 I believe in marriage, one man, one woman. 0.92
00:33:19.000 I believe in monogamous relationships, obviously.
00:33:24.000 But also my temperament is kind of like, okay, your private life as an adult, I don't want to overly police that.
00:33:29.000 That's not what any of this is about.
00:33:31.000 That is not what any of this is about.
00:33:33.000 This is about them injecting drag queens to kids at libraries. 0.99
00:33:39.000 This is about grooming kids via the target section.
00:33:42.000 This is about mandatory involvement and celebration.
00:33:46.000 Again, I believe 90% of our audience kind of has a temperament of like, okay, not for me.
00:33:52.000 Just, I don't want to have to see it on my television screen.
00:33:54.000 I don't want to see flags everywhere. 0.94
00:33:56.000 Like it's some sort of imperial gay conquest. 0.92
00:33:58.000 And that's kind of what the month of June is. 0.82
00:34:00.000 It's like we have conquered the entire country.
00:34:02.000 It's like an occupying force that has come in.
00:34:05.000 When again, I think my temperament, most people's temperament, is that not my thing, whatever.
00:34:11.000 It's not live and let live.
00:34:12.000 It's live and let them rule.
00:34:14.000 And so I just want to make sure we're clear that most of you, most Americans have somewhat of a relaxed, laissez-faire attitude towards this stuff, albeit simultaneously saying we never should have redefined marriage.
00:34:27.000 I'm 100% there, right?
00:34:29.000 That's not what this is about.
00:34:30.000 This is zealotry.
00:34:32.000 This is about convincing.
00:34:34.000 This is evangelism.
00:34:36.000 Look at this here.
00:34:37.000 This is Cut 77, Northface.
00:34:40.000 This is, I mean, boy, in podcasting, you're going to be spared quite an image here.
00:34:45.000 Play cut 77. 0.71
00:34:47.000 Hi, it's me, Pattigonia, a real life homosexual. 0.90
00:34:51.000 And today I'm here with the Northface. 0.68
00:34:53.000 We are here to invite you to come out in nature with us.
00:34:58.000 Wow, this is nice.
00:35:00.000 We like to call this little tour the summer of pride.
00:35:05.000 That's pretty yay.
00:35:06.000 Okay, so Rainbow Bigfoot out there is dancing and celebrating, but why would they mention their competitor's name?
00:35:13.000 Anyway, the whole PR strategy behind this stuff is not rational or reasonable.
00:35:20.000 But that's just one example of all that. 0.96
00:35:22.000 Oh, that's the literal drag queen's name, Patty Gonia. 1.00
00:35:25.000 These people are freaks.
00:35:29.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
00:35:31.000 Email us your thoughts as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:35:34.000 Thanks so much for listening, and God bless.
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