The Charlie Kirk Show - "Kill the Boer:" What's Really Happening in South Africa

00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, Charlie Kirk here, live from the Bitcoin.com studio. 0.50

00:00:04.000 Kill the boar.

00:00:05.000 We go deeper and we talk to a South African on the front lines. 0.94

00:00:08.000 What is happening in South Africa?

00:00:10.000 It is shocking.

00:00:11.000 Why is the COVID shot still on the childhood vaccination schedule?

00:00:15.000 We're making a push to get it removed.

00:00:16.000 And finally, what if I told you AOC is the leader of the Democrat primary for the presidency?

00:00:23.000 No joke.

00:00:24.000 Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is the leader.

00:00:28.000 To become president of the United States for the Democrat Party.

00:00:32.000 Email us, as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:00:34.000 Become a member today.

00:00:35.000 It's members.charliekirk.com.

00:00:37.000 That is members.charliekirk.com.

00:00:39.000 Get involved with America's most important organization, Turning Point USA, at tpusa.com.

00:00:45.000 That is tpusa.com.

00:00:48.000 Buckle up, everybody.

00:00:49.000 Here we go.

00:00:50.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.

00:00:51.000 Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus.

00:00:53.000 I want you to know we are lucky.

00:00:55.000 To have Charlie Kirk.

00:00:57.000 Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks.

00:01:00.000 I want to thank Charlie.

00:01:01.000 He's an incredible guy.

00:01:02.000 His spirit, his love of this country, he's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.

00:01:10.000 We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.

00:01:19.000 That's why we are here.

00:01:23.000 Noble Gold Investments is the official gold sponsor of The Charlie Kirk Show, a company that specializes in gold IRAs and physical delivery of precious metals.

00:01:33.000 Learn how you can protect your wealth with Noble Gold Investments at noblegoldinvestments.com.

00:01:39.000 That is noblegoldinvestments.com.

00:01:41.000 It's where I buy all of my gold.

00:01:43.000 Go to noblegoldinvestments.com.

00:01:48.000 Email us as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:01:51.000 We have a very special guest here.

00:01:53.000 Very, very important topic here, which is what is happening in South Africa is now impacting America.

00:02:01.000 We've covered it extensively.

00:02:03.000 We have a great guest here who is the author of the book Kill the Boar, and it is Ernst Roots, also the director of the Pioneer Initiative, and he comes to us live from South Africa.

00:02:16.000 Ernst, great to meet you.

00:02:17.000 Thank you for taking the time.

00:02:18.000 Well, Charlie, great to meet you too.

00:02:20.000 And it's great to be on the show.

00:02:21.000 And thank you very much for talking about this and for having me on the show.

00:02:25.000 Good to speak to you here from Pretoria, South Africa.

00:02:28.000 So for our American audience that is largely uninitiated with this topic, tell us about your book, Kill the Boar, and tell us about what is actually happening on the ground in South Africa.

00:02:40.000 So the book is entitled Kill the Boar.

00:02:43.000 It was published in 2018.

00:02:45.000 And the title was chosen because that is also the title of a very famous political chant in South Africa that I'm sure you've seen and your viewers have seen that is becoming increasingly popular.

00:02:57.000 A chant.

00:02:58.000 It's not a song. 1.00

00:02:59.000 It's a chant of which the lyrics are kill the boer, kill the farmer, shoot to kill, kill a man. 0.99

00:03:04.000 And the word boer, of course, refers to the Afrikaner people. 0.99

00:03:08.000 So it's an ethnic or cultural community that is targeted.

00:03:12.000 The book is, well, it took me three years to write.

00:03:15.000 It's very extensively researched.

00:03:16.000 And the main argument, if I can summarize, is that farm attacks, there are many problems, crime phenomena in South Africa, but the farm killings are very unique for a variety of reasons.

00:03:27.000 The one is the extreme disproportionate rate at which farmers are being attacked and killed in South Africa.

00:03:34.000 The second is the extreme levels of brutality.

00:03:38.000 The worst tortures imaginable happening during these farm attacks.

00:03:42.000 And I can tell you about that if you want.

00:03:44.000 The third is the unique role that farmers have to play in South Africa in terms of providing food for the nation, but also in terms of being employers and employing people and so forth.

00:03:57.000 And then the fourth reason is just the fact that A crime phenomenon such as this deserves a unique counter strategy because the farmers are far away from police stations and so forth.

00:04:07.000 But on top of this, what we have is not just a disproportionate and an extremely brutal crime phenomenon.

00:04:13.000 We have a crime phenomenon here that is That is actively encouraged and romanticized by some of the most senior and influential politicians in South Africa, chanting kill the Boer from public platforms, then being protected by the Constitutional Court, which is, you could say, the Supreme Court in South Africa, and then being protected by the president who publicly denies that this problem is happening.

00:04:37.000 And then on top of that, we have now this threat.

00:04:40.000 To property rights, with the ruling party, the ANC, openly saying that they want to take or confiscate property that belongs to white people and redistribute it.

00:04:50.000 And then they call this EWC, expropriation without compensation.

00:04:55.000 And then they would try to convince us that targeting property rights and destroying the free market would somehow be good for the economy as it would lead to what they call black empowerment, or transformation, that's the other term, which is just the South African term for DEI as we know it.

00:05:12.000 Okay, I want to play that piece of tape, as you mentioned. 0.89

00:05:14.000 So before I play it, very quickly, of them chanting, kill the boar.

00:05:18.000 Is this chanted on a regular basis?

00:05:20.000 Was this a one-off piece of tape?

00:05:23.000 And is this kind of become a pseudo motto or mantra of a political party?

00:05:28.000 Before I play the tape, please answer that question.

00:05:30.000 Yes, it has become a regular thing.

00:05:33.000 There was a time when it wasn't chanted that often.

00:05:35.000 And now it has become a new way of, you might say, targeting the Boers and poking fun at the Boers, making fun at them and so forth. 0.53

00:05:46.000 Let's play cut 260 of... 0.99

00:05:48.000 A large political party in South Africa chanting, kill the boar. 0.97

00:05:53.000 Play cut 260. 0.99

00:06:09.000 So explain to our audience what we were watching there.

00:06:12.000 So that is a political rally by a party called the...

00:06:17.000 Ironically called the Economic Freedom Fighters, proclaiming to fight for economic freedom, when of course it's nothing but a communist movement, very much philosophically influenced by Frantz Fanon and his justification of violence.

00:06:33.000 And this party is ideologically very much aligned with the ruling party in South Africa, very close to them, even though they are competing for votes.

00:06:43.000 And this, what we see here, is a political chant that is...

00:06:46.000 Always or almost always it follows on a political speech. 0.96

00:06:51.000 During which the politician speaking would speak about how, for example, and this is a direct quote, all white people are criminals and should be treated as such. 0.70

00:07:01.000 And statements such as, if you see a beautiful piece of land, go and take it, it is yours. 0.99

00:07:06.000 And statements such as, we are going to slit the throat of whiteness. 0.97

00:07:10.000 And I could just keep on mentioning examples.

00:07:12.000 So it's this very provocative speech, followed by the chanting of Kiel the Boer. 0.95

00:07:17.000 So then has that happened?

00:07:18.000 Beyond the chanting, beyond the rhetoric, what has materially happened?

00:07:22.000 Who has lost their life?

00:07:23.000 Who has lost their property as a result of this outrageous rallying cry and rhetoric?

00:07:29.000 Well, let me firstly say the counter argument to concerns about farmer tax is always yes, but there are other crimes also in South Africa, gang-related violence and so forth.

00:07:38.000 And that is true.

00:07:39.000 But what we have with the farmers being targeted in South Africa and killed is...

00:07:44.000 A complete disproportionate targeting of this section of society, because remember, there are very few farmers.

00:07:49.000 There are about 30,000 commercial farmers in South Africa who are now being targeted, not just attacked and killed, but as I mentioned...

00:07:57.000 Very brutally tortured, in some cases tortured for hours during these attacks.

00:08:03.000 And what we also find in some of these attacks are the attackers chanting political slogans, such as kill the Boer, while they torture their victims, making political statements, referencing certain politicians, making some racist commentary and so forth.

00:08:19.000 And in one of the worst cases, it was two elderly women, a mother and her daughter, who were both elderly.

00:08:26.000 Who were severely tortured and killed on a farm.

00:08:29.000 And the attackers actually went as far as taking the blood of the victims and writing the words, kill the boer, on a farmhouse.

00:08:37.000 So it's really, really alarming.

00:08:40.000 And it's particularly alarming to see the extent to which the media is trying to downplay this.

00:08:44.000 So not just the media downplaying it, but this seems to be the opposite.

00:08:49.000 They're saying that this isn't happening, that this doesn't exist.

00:08:54.000 For our audience that is unfamiliar with South Africa, this is your home, correct?

00:09:00.000 This is where you were raised.

00:09:01.000 You're ancestrally Dutch, I imagine, if I'm not mistaken, right?

00:09:07.000 But they're trying to drive you out of this country, saying it's not yours.

00:09:11.000 What is your personal response to that contention?

00:09:14.000 Yes, so we have been here since 1652, which is...

00:09:21.000 300, almost 400 years ago.

00:09:24.000 My family has been here.

00:09:27.000 The first roots of whom I directly descend lived at the time of George Washington.

00:09:33.000 He was a little bit older than George Washington.

00:09:36.000 And that's when he came to South Africa from Europe.

00:09:40.000 The Afrikaner people descend predominantly from the Dutch, the French and the Germans who came to South Africa during the 1600s and 1700s.

00:09:49.000 We became a people.

00:09:51.000 In South Africa, we have our own language, which we named after the continent, Afrikaans.

00:09:55.000 We named ourselves after the continent.

00:09:58.000 We are the Afrikaners.

00:09:59.000 We have a very unique, a very rich history.

00:10:02.000 We have our own culture that we developed here in the southern tip of the African continent.

00:10:07.000 Civilizationally speaking, you could say we are Westerners and we're very proud of our Western heritage.

00:10:13.000 And we're actually the last Western outpost on the African continent.

00:10:17.000 And we're very proud to be in Africa and to have remained in Africa.

00:10:21.000 And we are certainly committed to a future here in the African continent where our ancestors have faced many existential crises over the centuries.

00:10:29.000 Please plug your book again for our audience.

00:10:32.000 Thank you.

00:10:32.000 Well, the book is Kill the Boer.

00:10:33.000 And it is available on Amazon and I would encourage people to go and read it and also to talk about this.

00:10:41.000 Private student loan debt.

00:10:42.000 So many Americans feel stuck and helpless.

00:10:44.000 They are the sponsor of our campus tour.

00:10:46.000 They are great people.

00:10:47.000 You can finally take control of your student loan situation at YReFi.com.

00:10:52.000 That is Y-R-E-F-Y.com.

00:10:54.000 They provide you with a custom loan payment based on your ability to pay.

00:10:58.000 YReFi is not a debt settlement company, and they work with each borrower individually, tailoring each loan to each borrower's specific.

00:11:06.000 You'll not be calling a faceless call center.

00:11:09.000 YReFi can reduce your monthly payment and guarantees interest rates under 6%.

00:11:14.000 YReFi does not care what your credit score is.

00:11:16.000 Go to YReFi.com.

00:11:18.000 That is Y-R-E-F-Y.com.

00:11:20.000 So take a look at it right now at YReFi.com.

00:11:23.000 YReFi refinances distressed and defaulted private student loans, which are different from federal loans.

00:11:28.000 They offer a three-minute rate check.

00:11:30.000 So I want you to think right now.

00:11:31.000 Maybe you have private student loan debt.

00:11:33.000 Maybe your friend does.

00:11:34.000 Maybe your neighbor.

00:11:35.000 Got to check it out.

00:11:36.000 YREFI.com.

00:11:37.000 Y-R-E-F-Y.com.

00:11:38.000 Can you imagine being debt-free and not burdened anymore?

00:11:41.000 Go to YREFI.com.

00:11:43.000 May not be available in all 50 states.

00:11:44.000 YREFI.com.

00:11:48.000 Ernst Roots continues with us.

00:11:50.000 So let me ask you, author of Kill the Boar.

00:11:52.000 Everyone should check it out.

00:11:54.000 This is getting largely ignored by Western media.

00:11:57.000 And I know this will sound like a silly question, but do you feel safe?

00:12:03.000 Well, the answer to that is both yes and no.

00:12:08.000 The reason why the answer is no is because our community is very actively being targeted by the government.

00:12:17.000 I mean, I can tell you the names of people I know who have been attacked on farms and even people who have been murdered.

00:12:22.000 I myself have been in an armed robbery.

00:12:25.000 And on top of the violence, we have...

00:12:28.000 More than 140 race laws in this country aimed at targeting and discriminating against the white minority.

00:12:34.000 We have the rhetoric.

00:12:35.000 We have the threats to confiscate property and all of that.

00:12:38.000 The reason why the answer is yes, that we do feel safe, is because we are a very well-organized community.

00:12:50.000 I say "feel safe" perhaps in quotation marks, but to a certain extent, the Afrikaner people have gotten used to living in Africa and to walking around wearing a firearm to defend yourself if needs be. 0.91

00:13:04.000 It's almost like the Wild West, but perhaps South Africa is the Wild South.

00:13:09.000 But the thing is, we love this country so much.

00:13:13.000 That a lot of people, I know a lot of people want to leave and a lot of people would leave, but the overwhelming sentiment here is that we really love this country, we love this place, we love our history, we love our culture, and we want to have a future.

00:13:26.000 And we need some form of an intervention to ensure that we can remain here as our ancestors have done for hundreds of years.

00:13:36.000 And so the left will say this is all because of apartheid and you white people deserve it. 0.98

00:13:42.000 That you guys deserve all of this and you own too much property.

00:13:46.000 This feels as if this is going to reach a simmering point, a breaking point.

00:13:50.000 It's not sustainable.

00:13:52.000 Your own political leadership seems to be escalating this, not trying to bring down the racial temperature.

00:13:59.000 Am I correct in that diagnosis?

00:14:02.000 Yeah, no, you're absolutely right.

00:14:03.000 It is reaching some form of a boiling point.

00:14:06.000 So in the 1990s, when there were the negotiations for a new South Africa, the president of South Africa, the current president, Cyril Ramaphosa, was the chief negotiator for the ANC.

00:14:20.000 And he was asked during a private meeting by a member of one of the opposition parties, what is the ANC's plan for dealing with white people in a so-called new South Africa?

00:14:31.000 To which he responded that their plan for dealing with whites is like boiling a frog alive.

00:14:36.000 You know that metaphor of the frog that is put in hot water, but the water isn't boiling temperature at first.

00:14:42.000 The temperature gradually increases, ensuring that the frog doesn't jump out, up until the point where the frog eventually boils to death.

00:14:50.000 And it's very alarming to see the extent to which this is actually what they have been doing since taking power in 1994.

00:14:57.000 And so you mentioned the word unsustainable, and that's...

00:15:00.000 That is the correct word.

00:15:01.000 And so what we need from a sort of macro-political perspective is some form of an intervention in the sense that the political system in South Africa has to change.

00:15:11.000 South Africa is, in a certain sense, a globalist project.

00:15:14.000 And the solution to this is self-governance.

00:15:16.000 We do not have self-governance in this country.

00:15:18.000 We are dominated by a race, nationalist, socialist movement.

00:15:23.000 And they're obviously...

00:15:25.000 Trying to convince us that their socialist ideas would make the country a better place.

00:15:28.000 They then blend it with race nationalism.

00:15:31.000 Not even race nationalism, just racist nationalism.

00:15:34.000 And it's been so destructive to this country.

00:15:38.000 And this needs to stop.

00:15:39.000 We need a different political system for the country altogether.

00:15:42.000 Do you think that's possible?

00:15:43.000 I think it's possible.

00:15:45.000 I think it's not just possible, it's...

00:15:48.000 Highly probable that the system would change at some point, because it's very clear, not just that it is failing, but that it has failed and that it continues to fail.

00:15:59.000 And so that is what we are trying to do with the Pioneer Initiative is raising awareness about the fact that we do not simply have a choice between the ANC government and the apartheid system, but there are other political systems that one might consider federalism being one, but there are others as well.

00:16:15.000 And there's going to be a change.

00:16:17.000 And what we need to do is to be well organized and sure when the system changes, it changes for the better and not for the worse.

00:16:24.000 Thank you so much.

00:16:25.000 Again, Kill the Boar is the book we watch with horror.

00:16:29.000 And we are here to receive people that want to leave South Africa.

00:16:33.000 Simultaneously, I have to give you great compliment and admiration.

00:16:37.000 The fact you want to fight for your home is of great courage and of high moral standing and amazing fortitude.

00:16:44.000 I would never flee America.

00:16:46.000 And I don't fault people for fleeing South Africa because, I mean, look, if all of a sudden your neighbor's farm and the farm down the street, all these people are murdered, I mean, it's a toughie.

00:16:56.000 but I really respect that and I hope that you are successful.

00:17:00.000 The odds are stacked against you.

00:17:01.000 The reason the odds are stacked against you is because South Africa has embraced the darkest way that you can govern which is simply tribalistic racial politics. 0.83

00:17:11.000 It is the lowest of our human impulses and I pray you guys can rise above it and actually care about people's Thank you so much, Ernst.

00:17:22.000 Thank you for having me.

00:17:26.000 So you insure your car, your phone, your home because if something bad happens, you want to be protected.

00:17:31.000 But what about you?

00:17:32.000 What about your income, your family's future?

00:17:35.000 With Policy Genius, you can find life insurance policies starting at just $276 a year for $1 million in coverage.

00:17:42.000 It's an easy way to protect the people you love and feel good about the future.

00:17:46.000 Policy Genius is amazing.

00:17:47.000 I'm a big fan of life insurance.

00:17:49.000 You guys can compare quotes from America's top insurers side by side for free.

00:17:54.000 Their licensed support team helps you get what you need fast so you can get on with your life.

00:17:58.000 They answer questions, handle paperwork, and advocate for you throughout the process.

00:18:02.000 Life insurance is not a one-size-fits-all product, and PolicyGenius doesn't treat it like one.

00:18:07.000 They lay out all the options clearly, coverage amounts, prices, terms, no guesswork, just clarity.

00:18:12.000 Head to PolicyGenius.com and click the link in the description.

00:18:15.000 And see how much money you could save.

00:18:21.000 That is PolicyGenius.com.

00:18:25.000 Very exciting guest here, looking forward to this conversation.

00:18:29.000 Joining us now is Dr. Kat Lindley from Family Medicine, mother of five, and school board member and senior fellowship director at the Independent Medical Alliance.

00:18:39.000 Doctor, welcome to the program.

00:18:41.000 Thank you for having me, Charlie.

00:18:42.000 I'm really excited to be with you.

00:18:44.000 So thank you for that.

00:18:46.000 And so kind of the genesis of this conversation was this clip.

00:18:49.000 I want to play it.

00:18:49.000 It was our conversation with the FDA commissioner, Dr. Marty McCary, all about the COVID shot and why is it still on the childhood vaccination schedule?

00:19:00.000 Fairness, Trump has only been president for 100 plus days.

00:19:02.000 You've got to weigh things.

00:19:03.000 You've got to measure them.

00:19:04.000 But I think it's time for us to launch and push for this to be removed.

00:19:10.000 Let's play cut 347, please.

00:19:11.000 Look, I'd love to see the evidence to show that giving young, healthy children another COVID shot, you know, a sixth COVID booster, would help them.

00:19:22.000 But that evidence does not exist.

00:19:23.000 And so we're not just going to rubber stamp things at the FDA.

00:19:27.000 And I don't think you're going to see a push at the CDC to be pushing COVID shots in young, healthy children.

00:19:35.000 That is something that's being discussed right now.

00:19:38.000 I think you're going to see some announcement on that in the coming weeks.

00:19:41.000 But I know they are trying to review all of the scientific data, and there's no good randomized controlled data available.

00:19:48.000 Doctor, expand on that, please.

00:20:07.000 And make the case that the COVID shot should not be on the childhood vaccination schedule.

00:20:12.000 Dr. Macker is correct.

00:20:14.000 There's really no evidence to have these COVID shots on children's vaccine schedule.

00:20:20.000 He said the current formulation, I would actually postulate that there never was a case to give it to children because children did really well during COVID.

00:20:30.000 Also, so far we had 9.5 million children aged 6 months to 17 years who have received this COVID mRNA shot.

00:20:40.000 But what we've seen is a 620% increase in myocarditis among young men post-vaccination.

00:20:46.000 We're also seeing increased miscarriage rates even according to Pfizer safety reports.

00:20:52.000 And one study showed that there was a...

00:20:54.000 33% drop in successful conception among vaccinated women.

00:20:59.000 So really, this campaign arose because we felt very strongly while the administration is contemplating these things, the ACIP, which is the Vaccine Advisory Committee, is going to meet next week.

00:21:11.000 We actually urged them to do it now.

00:21:13.000 And parents have been silenced for too long.

00:21:16.000 They've been intimidated when they go to pediatrician's offices and told that our children have to get these shots.

00:21:23.000 In the meantime, we're seeing many injuries and many new illnesses that we shouldn't be seeing in children.

00:21:30.000 So our ask is really simple.

00:21:32.000 We're asking HHS and CDC to remove them from the children vaccine schedule, but also pregnant women, because child starts in a womb. 1.00

00:21:42.000 And we know that these lipid nanoparticles that are transferring the material travel through placenta, and we don't want our children to have it.

00:21:51.000 So, doctor, make the case, though, why the vaccination schedule matters, because the counterargument would be like, well, if you don't want it, just don't take it.

00:22:01.000 But the vaccination schedule involves immunity protections and also is a standard for some public school admissions, for some summer camps, for college admissions.

00:22:11.000 They use the vaccination schedule as you are not allowed to enter or participate unless you have every one of these shots.

00:22:18.000 It's not just a suggestion.

00:22:21.000 It actually is a criteria.

00:22:23.000 Please explain.

00:22:25.000 Many experts have said that when the vaccine goes on the vaccination schedule that's recommended by CDC, the vaccine manufacturer gets indemnity, so they cannot be sued.

00:22:37.000 The other point is there are still some states, in particular states like California, where they don't accept any kind of exemptions for vaccinations.

00:22:46.000 And you could have a family where the doctor pressures them to have a child vaccinated even for COVID.

00:22:53.000 But then also we think mandates are over.

00:22:55.000 They're not.

00:22:56.000 mandates are still well in the health industry.

00:23:00.000 So we have nursing students, we have medical students that have to do rotations where these mandates are still there. 0.89

00:23:06.000 And some places are still recommending COVID-19 So, but doctor, I find it really hard to believe.

00:23:18.000 Are there really parents that still, I guess so, willingly want to inoculate their kid against COVID with an experimental shot?

00:23:27.000 Why are they worried about their kid getting COVID in the first place?

00:23:31.000 Do you remember the story that recently came that there were two children that were still locked down in their home because the parents were afraid of what was happening during COVID and they didn't want them to go out in the public?

00:23:45.000 So I would say just based on that story that you can imagine, there are still parents who...

00:23:52.000 Believe that this is an issue and there are still pediatricians and doctors out there who are recommending them.

00:23:58.000 I just, I mean, it's just like that is so mass propaganda.

00:24:01.000 And is it fair to say, doctor, that we do not know all of the multi-decade now health problems that some of these kids might carry for no reason whatsoever?

00:24:12.000 You know what was the biggest problem with this whole vaccine issue when it was even rolled out?

00:24:17.000 The lie that it's safe and effective.

00:24:20.000 How can anyone truthfully tell us that something is safe and effective when we don't have long-term studies?

00:24:27.000 Even when they came out with the...

00:24:29.000 I understand why people got the vaccine in the first place because there was lots of fear.

00:24:33.000 Everyone felt they're doing the right thing for whatever reason it was.

00:24:37.000 But the fact that...

00:24:39.000 Pfizer and our government, CDC, came up and kept on saying they're safe and effective was always a scientific lie.

00:24:45.000 When you don't have long-term safety data, you cannot say that.

00:24:49.000 You can say we think it is, we hope it is, but you cannot say it is.

00:24:53.000 So that's where we are right now.

00:24:55.000 And what we are seeing, even according to VAERS data, we're seeing many injuries.

00:25:00.000 We're seeing many complications.

00:25:02.000 Some of us are treating patients with cardiac issues, with neurologic issues, with...

00:25:08.000 Clothing issues.

00:25:10.000 With many, many issues and what is new that's on the market is this mRNA vaccine.

00:25:16.000 So we are starting the campaign asking for the mRNA COVID shot.

00:25:20.000 But as far as I'm concerned, I'm going to push even further.

00:25:23.000 I believe that the whole platform needs to be looked at.

00:25:27.000 And I love that Dr. Macquarie is at FDA.

00:25:29.000 I love that Dr. Jay Bhattacharya is at NIH.

00:25:32.000 I'm hoping that they will give us true studies that will give us long-term safety data.

00:25:37.000 And if it's safe and effective, let's have a conversation.

00:25:40.000 But let's stop lying.

00:25:41.000 Without a doubt.

00:25:42.000 And just as a level deeper, again, I've come from a very simple first principle argument.

00:25:48.000 Why do you have to vaccinate against something that is not a serious threat to your child?

00:25:52.000 It's a wrong premise.

00:25:54.000 Yes.

00:25:55.000 So the premise, I mean, look, pneumococcal pneumonia, I get it, okay?

00:25:58.000 But if we're inoculating against something that is not even a threat, then the entire argument of why the vaccine is even offered is not a problem.

00:26:07.000 With proper vitamin D supplementation, vitamin A supplementation, movement, unless the kid has serious underlying health conditions, kids are not en masse dying of COVID.

00:26:19.000 In fact, I looked at the data.

00:26:21.000 Kids actually are dying more of the flu than of COVID this last season.

00:26:25.000 You can look at the data.

00:26:27.000 Kids of just the seasonal flu kills kids every single winter.

00:26:31.000 We know that after two mRNA shots, your immune system gets suppressed.

00:26:37.000 Is it fair to say that we might see other kids, unfortunately, suffer with other non-related COVID sicknesses and ailments because their immune system would be suppressed because the mRNA shot?

00:26:51.000 Absolutely.

00:26:52.000 This season in particular, even just strep, flu, it was very virulent because the general...

00:27:02.000 State of immunity around the country is low.

00:27:05.000 So we are seeing many of these viruses and even bacteria lasting longer, needing more treatment and more kind of support.

00:27:15.000 Because of the fact that our overall immunity as a nation is probably down from what has been happening.

00:27:20.000 And you're right.

00:27:21.000 You know, if you just give your child proper nutrition, good sleep, exercise, vitamins, their immune system can handle a lot more than ours can.

00:27:32.000 And the idea that we just vaccinate our way through life, it's almost like living in a bubble.

00:27:37.000 And that's not the way that we need to allow our kids to live because we are going to...

00:27:43.000 Push them towards living in fear.

00:27:45.000 And that's not what children need.

00:27:47.000 They need love.

00:27:48.000 They need support.

00:27:49.000 And they need us to be parents.

00:27:51.000 They need us to be their voice.

00:27:53.000 Tell us about your advocacy that you are doing, the petition that you would like moms to sign.

00:27:58.000 Please take a minute and a half to build that out.

00:28:00.000 Yes.

00:28:01.000 So the campaign is really something that every parent understands, protecting your child.

00:28:07.000 We're kind of done waiting on the sidelines for the...

00:28:12.000 Like I said, I love what Dr. Mercury is doing.

00:28:15.000 They keep on saying we're contemplating, we're considering.

00:28:18.000 We're just saying just go ahead and do it.

00:28:21.000 There's really no scientific data to support vaccinating our children against COVID-19.

00:28:26.000 So we have a campaign, Smart Moms Ask. 1.00

00:28:29.000 It's at www.imahealth.org backslash smartmomsask.

00:28:36.000 And this is a campaign to really empower moms, dads, parents when they go to their physician offices to ask questions, to get truly informed consent and say, why does my child need this at this time?

00:28:49.000 We're really going to push...

00:28:50.000 This is beyond COVID-19 because we want parents to be able to feel that they are in the driver's seat when it comes to their children's health.

00:28:59.000 I don't know if you know about this, but there are some states that are saying that parents are not going to have access to their children's charts when they start like 12 or 13 years old.

00:29:09.000 That's ludicrous because parents are the guardians of our children, the guardians of their health or their mental status.

00:29:17.000 Their happiness.

00:29:18.000 We need to be able to work with our doctors, with our teachers, and more importantly, we need to be the voice for our kids, always.

00:29:26.000 Dr. Lindley, thank you for your time.

00:29:28.000 Everyone, check it out right there.

00:29:29.000 Thank you so much.

00:29:31.000 Thank you.

00:29:34.000 What does a mechanic and auto shop owner in Georgia, a taco restaurant operator in Arizona, and a life-saving medical innovator in Tennessee have in common?

00:29:42.000 They're all small business owners and they're all thriving on TikTok.

00:29:46.000 Across the U.S., over 7.5 million businesses, from family-owned shops to entrepreneurs, are using TikTok to compete and grow.

00:29:53.000 We use TikTok all the time on The Charlie Kirk Show.

00:29:56.000 In fact, 74% of businesses on TikTok say TikTok has allowed them to scale their operations, increasing sales, and expanding to new locations.

00:30:04.000 And that growth means jobs.

00:30:05.000 Today, there's over 7.5 million U.S. businesses on TikTok employing more than 28 million people.

00:30:10.000 And that number keeps growing.

00:30:12.000 Small businesses thrive on TikTok.

00:30:14.000 Learn more about TikTok's contribution to the U.S. economy at TikTokEconomicImpact.com.

00:30:22.000 I got some great news this morning for you, everybody.

00:30:24.000 It's phenomenal news.

00:30:25.000 And part of it actually should be taken somewhat seriously.

00:30:28.000 But this is a guarantee that our campus tours, Turning Point USA, and the Charlie Kirk Show are going to stay very relevant and very popular, God willing.

00:30:39.000 It is the new Democrat.

00:30:41.000 Presidential poll for 2028.

00:30:44.000 Drumroll.

00:30:47.000 In third place is Jasmine Crockett.

00:30:51.000 Very impressive young woman from Texas.

00:30:55.000 In second place, Bernard Sanders.

00:30:59.000 And crushing the rest of the Democrat field as the leader of the Democrat party is Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. 0.74

00:31:11.000 And if you add Bernie Sanders plus AOC, that's nearly 38% of the primary vote in the Democrat Party.

00:31:20.000 And my podcast partner, I have to say, I've done a great job here.

00:31:25.000 I take fractional credit for this.

00:31:28.000 A little bit.

00:31:30.000 Gavin Newsom at 2%.

00:31:31.000 My podcast partner is not doing very well.

00:31:35.000 You see, if you want to win a Democrat primary...

00:31:38.000 Not a great idea to talk to me.

00:31:40.000 If you want to win a general election or try to...

00:31:41.000 at 2%.

00:31:42.000 Cory Booker, Spartacus at 4%.

00:31:45.000 Hakeem the Dream, Jeffries at 5%.

00:31:47.000 Pete Buttigieg at 5%.

00:31:50.000 And this is the most shocking thing.

00:31:54.000 Kamala Harris, the former nominee, former vice president at 6%.

00:31:58.000 You see, Gavin Newsom thought they wanted a sane candidate that could even question the men in female sports.

00:32:04.000 Now, we have to be very clear.

00:32:06.000 AOC...

00:32:07.000 She could build a big movement of some young women. 1.00

00:32:10.000 But bringing what we've built on campuses, we will go up against AOC on campus and we'll do very well.

00:32:17.000 We will get young men and, I would say, young women who want to marry normal men in major numbers.

00:32:25.000 And yes, AOC will kind of get the permanent government-dependent class.

00:32:30.000 But the Achilles heel of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is, number one, she's terrible on the trans stuff. 1.00

00:32:35.000 Number two, Immigration.

00:32:37.000 Remember 353 when she went and cried at the ICE detention center at the border?

00:32:42.000 She is an open borders zealot.

00:32:44.000 The country increasingly does not want mass migration.

00:32:47.000 The last election was a referendum on that, and the Democrats severely lost.

00:32:53.000 So AOC being the potential Democrat candidate, don't discount her.

00:32:56.000 It will be a battle.

00:32:58.000 It will be a war. 0.80

00:32:58.000 But I would much rather run up against AOC for the presidency versus, I mean, Gavin would be probably harder. 0.80

00:33:06.000 But none of these people scare me.

00:33:08.000 Bernie Sanders is probably going to hand off the torch to AOC.

00:33:11.000 They'll be like a big thing.

00:33:13.000 I, Bernie, give the torch to Cortez.

00:33:19.000 This is AOC on the Newark, New Jersey.

00:33:23.000 The future Democrat nominee, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.

00:33:26.000 Play cut 169.

00:33:28.000 If anyone's breaking the law in this situation, it's not members of Congress.

00:33:32.000 It's the Department of Homeland Security.

00:33:35.000 It's people like Tom Homan and Secretary Kristi Noem.

00:33:39.000 You lay a finger on someone, on Representative Bonnie Watson Coleman, on Representative, or any of the representatives that were there, we are going to have a problem.

00:33:50.000 You want to know why young men are becoming more conservative?

00:33:54.000 They don't want to take orders from AOC.

00:33:56.000 That whole thing, that whole vibe, the whole thing is whatever that is, I don't want you to be in any sort of power over my life.

00:34:03.000 We're not doing that.

00:34:05.000 Let's just say whiny and irritating.

00:34:09.000 So just as a recap, AOC's in first place.

00:34:13.000 Bernie Sanders in second place, which means that AOC and Bernie could be well near 40%.

00:34:16.000 Wow.

00:34:18.000 Kamala Harris not doing well.

00:34:20.000 Jasmine Crockett, who's also a radical.

00:34:22.000 Hakeem the Dream at 5%.

00:34:24.000 This is a very weak bench for those guys that are going up against J.D. Vance.

00:34:30.000 We are fortifying our base.

00:34:32.000 We are delivering results.

00:34:34.000 Maybe Hilldog will run again.

00:34:36.000 Hillary will come back into the arena. 0.99

00:34:38.000 But this is a real 2028 Democrat primary poll.

00:34:42.000 AOC, the huge double-digit leader, running for the presidency of the United States.

00:34:49.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:34:51.000 Email us, as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

The Charlie Kirk Show - May 15, 2025

"Kill the Boer:" What's Really Happening in South Africa

Episode Stats

Summary

Transcript