The Charlie Kirk Show - Killer Food + Killing JFK with Jack Roth and Andrew Gruel

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00:01:13.000 With us is Jack Roth, who is the author of Killing Kennedy, exposing the plot, the cover-up, and the consequences.

00:01:22.000 And Jack Roth joins us now.

00:01:23.000 Jack, welcome to the program.

00:01:25.000 Thanks for having me on, Charlie.

00:01:25.000 Thank you.

00:01:26.000 Appreciate it.

00:01:27.000 From a young age, I was convinced that there was more to the story when it came to the assassination of Kennedy.

00:01:34.000 It's very obvious to me for a variety of reasons.

00:01:37.000 But tell us about your book and make the kind of layman argument for someone that is not really in the weeds of the Zabruder film and Kevin Costner's rendition of it and actually walking, you know, in downtown Dallas and seeing the Texas school book depository and the grassy knoll.

00:01:56.000 What is the kind of short version of why you think there was more to the story when it came to the JFK assassination?

00:02:04.000 Yeah, well, I think you have to start with the idea of being a critical thinker when you think about these types of things.

00:02:12.000 And for me, I was like you.

00:02:14.000 I was born in 65.

00:02:16.000 You're younger than me, but I missed the assassination by two years.

00:02:21.000 But I always felt since I was a young kid that there was something not right.

00:02:27.000 And that's just by using common sense, the idea that Jack Ruby would get into that police station and shoot Oswald, take Oswald out.

00:02:37.000 So now there's no trial, right?

00:02:38.000 Oswald can't talk anymore.

00:02:40.000 So there was so much to it.

00:02:43.000 And over the years, I read and I'd read more and I'd read more, but I felt that there was, even as time goes by, right?

00:02:50.000 We're reaching the 60th anniversary this year.

00:02:53.000 And I felt it still mattered.

00:02:56.000 And I felt like it was important to reach other people and document some interesting things and present that, the fact that there have been ripple effects that have changed this country since that day and that it does still Matter.

00:03:13.000 And that was the goal of the book.

00:03:14.000 I wanted to try to maybe get younger people interested in it so they could carry the torch.

00:03:20.000 I mean, I think it is a metaphorical gateway drug to be able to challenge other power sources and other narratives that permeate our society.

00:03:29.000 So let's just kind of go through.

00:03:31.000 I have not read the book, but I'm guessing that you're sympathetic to some of these questions that need to be asked, which is, did Oswald really act alone?

00:03:39.000 What was the motive for Lee Harvey Oswald?

00:03:41.000 Let me ask you this question.

00:03:42.000 How about this?

00:03:43.000 What do you think is the most compelling piece of evidence of all the stuff from the head back into the left to the chatter on the grassy knoll to multiple bullet entries to the missing of Kennedy's head to the fact the driver didn't turn around to the change of the motorcade route?

00:03:59.000 All that.

00:04:00.000 What do you think is the most compelling piece of evidence where you say, now I got to look further?

00:04:05.000 That's a great question.

00:04:07.000 And I go back to Ruby because that was just not right.

00:04:11.000 But I would say the magic bullet theory, the idea that this bullet, which by the way is found in pristine condition, that this bullet would go through Kennedy, hit various bones, rough, tough skin, go make these weird turns, wind up in Connolly's wrist. 0.88

00:04:32.000 I mean, it is the most ridiculous thing. 0.95

00:04:36.000 It's insulting. 0.88

00:04:37.000 And I think sometimes we get to the point where we know it's insulting to our intelligence that they think, I say they, but that's a whole different question as to the they.

00:04:48.000 But there's so much.

00:04:51.000 There's so you mentioned everything you just mentioned is a big part of that.

00:04:55.000 Well, you know, where the shots came from, the autopsy, the things that happened all along the way.

00:05:01.000 The Warrant Commission, the fact that Alan Dulles, the guy that Kennedy fired as head of the CIA, is then put on the Warrant Commission by Gerald Ford.

00:05:13.000 I'm sorry, by Lyndon Johnson.

00:05:16.000 Gerald Ford was also on that committee.

00:05:19.000 It screams cover up.

00:05:22.000 And, you know, at that point, you just have to try to find out as much as you can.

00:05:26.000 And my goal was to interview people.

00:05:28.000 I wanted to get the right people to interview and ask them the right questions.

00:05:32.000 That was my goal.

00:05:33.000 So look, let me ask you this question.

00:05:36.000 In the last couple of decades, what, if anything, have we learned that we did not know at the time?

00:05:42.000 Let's just say that at the climax was Oliver Stone's film that was probably with the most audience and the largest audience and most kind of population interest.

00:05:52.000 What sense the publication or the release of JFK by Oliver Stone?

00:05:58.000 Have we learned of anything the last couple of decades?

00:06:01.000 Yeah.

00:06:02.000 Great question.

00:06:03.000 I think that it's Oliver Stone, what Oliver Stone did was brilliant because he just opened it all up.

00:06:09.000 Yes.

00:06:10.000 So he got people thinking about everything, right?

00:06:13.000 He just kind of threw it all in that movie.

00:06:15.000 I think what we know now that we didn't know then, and Oliver Stone himself has come out with two more documentaries because now we have more information.

00:06:25.000 One of the things is Oswald, Oswald's connection to U.S. intelligence and the fact that he was most likely and a CIA operative.

00:06:35.000 He was also in naval intelligence and he was being, you know, he was a lower level guy and he was taking his orders and he was going to New Orleans and then he was going to getting, they gave him, they got him a job at the Texas School Book Depository.

00:06:48.000 They told him to go to Texas.

00:06:50.000 They told him to do all these things.

00:06:51.000 And, you know, they were sheep dipping him. 0.78

00:06:53.000 But I think we know a lot more about Oswald.

00:06:56.000 And, you know, we also know now, I think more people are aware that when they, you know, if they read, you know, something about the Warren Commission report or a lot of new documents that come out.

00:07:08.000 And I think people get really excited about the new documents, but I don't get too excited about them because a lot of it is redacted, right?

00:07:17.000 You can't, half of it you can't read.

00:07:20.000 These, and when I say CIA, it's mostly CIA, where they're, you know, allowing us to view these documents after all these years.

00:07:29.000 And they're not going to give us anything that blows the lid off of everything.

00:07:34.000 And that's the thing.

00:07:34.000 I don't trust that that will ever happen, which is why we just have to do our research, open our minds, right?

00:07:41.000 Think critically and attack this the way we should, because it matters.

00:07:46.000 It still matters.

00:07:48.000 It changed everything in this country.

00:07:50.000 It really did.

00:07:51.000 So talk more about the cover-up, though.

00:07:53.000 That's part of your book, because there's the actual assassination, and then there was this shoddy operation of the Warren Commission, which was, it's a joke.

00:08:05.000 So walk us through that.

00:08:06.000 It is a joke.

00:08:07.000 And that's why I say it insults your intelligence, right?

00:08:10.000 It's like, come on, you know, so you have the act itself.

00:08:13.000 No one really knows what happened.

00:08:16.000 Certainly Americans don't because immediately the perpetrators go into control mode.

00:08:24.000 So people now all of us also goes back to your other question.

00:08:29.000 They know that there was an Operation Mockingbird, which is the CIA infiltrating mainstream media, New York Times, Washington Post.

00:08:39.000 So they had to have that in place because they had to have them cooperate.

00:08:44.000 And people say, oh, Walter Cronkite, he just went.

00:08:48.000 Back then, you were a patriot or you weren't.

00:08:51.000 So Walter Conkrite was a patriot.

00:08:55.000 And he, I feel like he felt, I have to go along with this because if I don't, there could be World War III.

00:09:02.000 They were probably telling him that.

00:09:03.000 Like, listen, Oswald did this alone.

00:09:05.000 That's what we got to go with because you don't want people thinking it was the Russians or the Cubans or certainly not the U.S. government, elements of the U.S. government.

00:09:15.000 There'd be chaos.

00:09:16.000 So they almost feel like they were just doing their patriotic duty to protect established order.

00:09:22.000 Correct.

00:09:23.000 Correct.

00:09:24.000 And but the cover-up was so shoddy.

00:09:26.000 It started with Oswald.

00:09:27.000 I mean, really, Oswald, I mean, just, I can't get past it.

00:09:30.000 I tell people all you need to know that there was a problem here and that there was a conspiracy is that Jack Ruby walks into a police station.

00:09:39.000 There's, I don't know, 50 police officers in there, special agents, goes right up to Oswald, shoots him, kills him.

00:09:46.000 In front of cameras.

00:09:47.000 Oswald never has in front of cameras on live TV.

00:09:52.000 I've talked to people who were watching TV at the time that happened and they could not, it was shocking because of what just happened to Kennedy.

00:10:00.000 And again, your critical thinking skills just come right to the forefront.

00:10:04.000 And it's like, whoa, wait a minute.

00:10:06.000 Wait a minute.

00:10:07.000 Something's wrong.

00:10:08.000 Not to mention, I mean, if I'm not mistaken, Kennedy's head just went missing.

00:10:13.000 Like, just don't know what happened to it, right?

00:10:15.000 One of 30 inexplicable things.

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00:11:25.000 So, Jack, let me ask you, you know, excuse the kind of cruel pun, but gun to your head, what happened in Dallas, Texas?

00:11:33.000 I try to avoid the gun to my head.

00:11:35.000 And in the book, I try, because I'm a journalist.

00:11:38.000 I'm a documentarian.

00:11:40.000 I'm like, oh, what do I say at the end of this?

00:11:42.000 And I learned a lot.

00:11:43.000 But what I tell people is, and they ask me who killed Kennedy, the first thing I say is the Cold War and its Cold Warriors killed Kennedy.

00:11:55.000 And what I mean by that is it was the times in which Kennedy governed that got him killed.

00:12:02.000 That's my first answer.

00:12:03.000 And my second answer, I know who didn't kill Kennedy.

00:12:07.000 I feel very confident about who didn't kill Kennedy.

00:12:10.000 And that's Lee Harvey Oswald.

00:12:11.000 So let me ask you, do you think Lee Harvey Oswald was in the Texas school book depository at the time, or do you think he was somewhere else?

00:12:20.000 I think he was there.

00:12:21.000 He was told that, you know, that's where his job was.

00:12:23.000 And he was doing certain things in his intelligence capacity.

00:12:29.000 And he may or may not have been in front of the building.

00:12:33.000 There's controversy about a photo there that shows what really looks like Oswald there.

00:12:38.000 But again, not definitive, whatever.

00:12:40.000 It is very interesting.

00:12:42.000 But I think he wasn't there because that was part of the setup.

00:12:46.000 And I also think that he went to the Texas theater because his CIA handler told him to meet him there.

00:12:54.000 And that's why he goes there.

00:12:58.000 And within minutes, there's, again, 100 Dallas police officers there arresting him.

00:13:04.000 There's so much to that that just doesn't make any sense.

00:13:08.000 And so, yeah, I think Oswald was Oswald actually, I'll go ahead and say this.

00:13:14.000 And if you read the book, you'll see why, because of what a lot of people say.

00:13:20.000 He actually thought that he could prevent the assassination.

00:13:25.000 And I think he was told by his handler and by, you know, whoever his bosses were that he was there to infiltrate Cuban exiles, the Cuban exile community, and get to know these people.

00:13:40.000 I mean, he knew Jack Ruby.

00:13:41.000 He knew Jack Ruby from New Orleans.

00:13:43.000 That's another story.

00:13:44.000 And Oliver Stone goes into great detail about that in the film.

00:13:47.000 Yeah, it's incredible what was going on in New Orleans in the summer of 63.

00:13:51.000 I'll tell you that.

00:13:52.000 But anyway, so Oswald was doing what he was told.

00:13:55.000 And then he actually, you know, there's evidence to suggest that he thwarted an assassination attempt in Chicago and that he had gotten in touch with an FBI agent up there and was like, and it was a guy.

00:14:08.000 And the FBI agent said an asset named Lee called Lee told us that there was going to be, there were Cuban exiles up there.

00:14:16.000 There might have been an assassination attempt.

00:14:19.000 And then we all know that he did bring a note to the FBI offices in Dallas and FBI agent Hostie, he brought him a note that said there's going to be an assassination attempt coming up in this motorcade.

00:14:33.000 That was probably about a week or so before.

00:14:33.000 When was that?

00:14:36.000 Okay.

00:14:37.000 And I, yeah.

00:14:38.000 So do you, do you believe that if it wasn't Oswald then from the window at the Texas Schoolbook Depository, then you believe then there was probably munition fire from the grassy knot?

00:14:51.000 Without question.

00:14:53.000 And that's eyewitness accounts and eyewitness accounts of not only, you know, women and children, but men who were in the military.

00:15:00.000 Know dozens of people.

00:15:02.000 Dozens.

00:15:03.000 Dozens of people.

00:15:04.000 And I feel like there were probably two or three teams in place.

00:15:08.000 And I think that there was a team on the sixth floor because that's how they had to frame Oswald.

00:15:14.000 So there was a team up there.

00:15:16.000 And they left the gun in the bullets.

00:15:17.000 So therefore, if you believe, I'm trying to whittle this down as quickly as I can.

00:15:22.000 Therefore, if you believe there was something in the grassy knoll, that was, we know, controlled by the United States Secret Service.

00:15:27.000 Therefore, do you believe the federal government was involved?

00:15:30.000 Elements of the federal government were involved.

00:15:33.000 Okay.

00:15:34.000 And how does that apply to our lessons today?

00:15:38.000 We have to understand our history and we have to be critical thinkers and fight for our freedoms because otherwise they'll be taken away.

00:15:50.000 And I think that the Kennedy assassination, it's been a downward spiral ever since.

00:15:55.000 And it's, we can't let, we have to maintain our freedoms.

00:16:00.000 And the only way we do that is by doing the work, right?

00:16:04.000 Knowledge.

00:16:05.000 Knowledge is power.

00:16:06.000 We can't just be, we can't just not care anymore.

00:16:09.000 And I think that's why I wrote the book because I think a lot of people, if you interviewed them in the street, if they even knew who JFK was, they would say, ah, it's 60 years ago.

00:16:18.000 Who cares?

00:16:19.000 Well, you should care because you're an American and we're never going to quite be right again until the truth comes out about that. 0.74

00:16:25.000 Jack Roth, super interesting.

00:16:27.000 I want to have you back on.

00:16:27.000 There were about 30 questions I wanted to ask about, especially the declassification of documents, but that's a reason to have you back on because we're out of time.

00:16:34.000 Check out his book, Killing Kennedy.

00:16:35.000 Make sure you get the Jack Roth version.

00:16:37.000 Jack, thank you so much.

00:16:39.000 Thank you, Charlie.

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00:17:42.000 All right, let's go through the list of all the things that the left thinks is toxic.

00:17:46.000 They think masculinity is toxic. 0.99

00:17:48.000 They think marriage is toxic. 0.99

00:17:51.000 They think Christianity is toxic. 0.98

00:17:54.000 And now they have a new one.

00:17:55.000 Oh, yeah, they think owning guns is toxic. 0.82

00:17:57.000 Borders are toxic.

00:17:59.000 They think children being children are toxic, but they got a new one.

00:18:04.000 According to the freak Scott Weiner from California, who we have gone into great detail of who he is, he says conservatives are trying to make protecting gas stoves, which are toxic, a culture war issue.

00:18:19.000 Look, I don't cook very much.

00:18:21.000 Not one of my giftings is to cook.

00:18:22.000 I'm actually awful at it.

00:18:25.000 But I know from very limited experience that electric stoves versus a gas-powered stove, it's not even a question.

00:18:32.000 And joining us now is Chef Andrew Gruhl, who is an anti-lockdown chef from California, somewhat of a legend.

00:18:39.000 Andrew, welcome to the program.

00:18:41.000 Thanks for having me.

00:18:42.000 All right, Andrew, you are a world-class chef, very well respected.

00:18:42.000 I appreciate it.

00:18:46.000 I am a layman with these things.

00:18:48.000 The extent of my cooking is something similar to a pyrotechnic experiment, and it doesn't always go well.

00:18:56.000 What is the technical difference between a gas stove and an electric stove?

00:19:00.000 Let's just start there.

00:19:01.000 Why should gas stoves be continued in the culinary tradition of the West?

00:19:07.000 At the very base of this, when I cook with electric, the likelihood I'm going to burn my food is probably a thousand percent higher because it takes so long to get the pan up to temperature, but then it also takes so long to get it down that when I do get it up, it keeps getting hotter and hotter and hotter because you cannot manipulate heat.

00:19:28.000 I can't just turn it on or off, right?

00:19:29.000 I turn the gas off, it's off.

00:19:31.000 Electric, it's this long, slow, gradual incline and decline.

00:19:35.000 So you're going to burn your food, which actually burnt food they say has carcinogens in it, which could lead to cancer.

00:19:43.000 So they're encouraging you to die.

00:19:47.000 And so that just seems like such a simple answer.

00:19:53.000 And I don't like burnt food.

00:19:54.000 I mean, let's just be honest.

00:19:55.000 If I'm using a gas-powered stove, there's a likelihood that if I'm in charge, everything's getting burnt.

00:20:00.000 So if it's electric, the community is getting burned down.

00:20:04.000 So the, but even for you as a world-class chef and as an expert, you say that if you are being forced, let's pretend in a, in a, let's just say a massive kitchen of which you operate some very big restaurants, you using an electric stove, I mean, it could actually be a business liability for you.

00:20:22.000 Is that an exaggeration?

00:20:23.000 No, no, no, that's not an exaggeration at all.

00:20:25.000 And that's why nobody uses electric.

00:20:27.000 You know, there's opportunities to use electric.

00:20:29.000 There's opportunities to use induction.

00:20:32.000 But, you know, I think they want us to get down into the weeds.

00:20:35.000 We're really here in the granular about gas versus electric, which is a subjective conversation.

00:20:40.000 And when you get into subjectivity, it can be very much about kind of, well, I think we should look at it this way or that way.

00:20:46.000 Let's take a huge step back here and understand by making the switch to electric, we are polluting the environment by their standards, by their math, by their calculus.

00:20:55.000 We are polluting the environment more, right?

00:20:58.000 Because right now, our electricity is coming from natural gas, coal, nuclear, and a very slim minority, renewables.

00:21:07.000 I can get gas directly to my home.

00:21:10.000 And what they're asking me to do instead is to go back to the electric grid, which is now inefficient because it's one large step away from my home, turn on the electricity, which requires the coal and the natural gas that they're trying to ban to get the electric to my home.

00:21:25.000 It's not just incredibly inefficient.

00:21:27.000 It's going to double, if not triple, the emissions that they say pollute the environment.

00:21:33.000 You see, this is not about the environment.

00:21:35.000 By its very simple standards, this is worse for the environment.

00:21:41.000 What is it about?

00:21:42.000 I'm all for protecting the environment.

00:21:44.000 I'm also for rationality and sanity.

00:21:46.000 What is this about then?

00:21:48.000 Well, it's about control.

00:21:49.000 And I know I sound crazy saying that.

00:21:51.000 No, you don't.

00:21:51.000 You actually sound very reasonable.

00:21:53.000 Well, let me back up.

00:21:55.000 I know I sound crazy to some saying that, but really, you can't cut off somebody's natural gas.

00:22:00.000 Somebody can get gas.

00:22:01.000 They can get a generator.

00:22:02.000 You can't just cut that off.

00:22:03.000 You've got a kill switch when it all comes down to the grid.

00:22:06.000 And for some reason, the left has attached themselves to this idea that we need to move everything into electric.

00:22:13.000 The grid, all of that needs to be electric.

00:22:15.000 Well, we haven't gotten there with renewables.

00:22:17.000 Let's play a level game right now where we are not trying to battle and there's no craziness out there.

00:22:24.000 And we're all just sitting down with open minds trying to understand how we can be better for the environment.

00:22:29.000 Well, number one, we need renewables to be a lot more efficient, a lot more economical, right?

00:22:35.000 Until we get that done, none of this stuff matters because it's all being driven by the items that they claim kill the environment, coal, and now they're saying natural gas.

00:22:47.000 And to that, over the past decade, we've decreased our fossil fuel emissions by 25%.

00:22:55.000 And guess how we did that?

00:22:56.000 Natural gas.

00:22:58.000 And natural gas is abundant.

00:22:58.000 Yes.

00:23:00.000 It's cheap.

00:23:01.000 It's affordable.

00:23:02.000 I believe that if you were to list the hardest businesses to run in the top 1% of all the hardest businesses, the elite restaurant business is one of the hardest businesses to run.

00:23:17.000 I have so much respect for people that are able to run restaurants, run them well, because you think about it, I'm sure all of you could remember a bad meal that you had.

00:23:28.000 And it's actually probably unfair because that's just probably one out of 300 people that they're serving that hour.

00:23:34.000 But that one could impact the rest of your likelihood of going to that restaurant.

00:23:39.000 So you have to be on with every customer, every dish.

00:23:42.000 I was marveling how many restaurants you have.

00:23:47.000 I mean, this kind of gives you a lot of credibility here.

00:23:49.000 How many restaurants do you have and how many people do you have on staff currently?

00:23:53.000 So I actually just sold my largest restaurant group where we had over 500 employees.

00:23:57.000 Right now I've got eight different concepts and we've got probably over right now over 50 employees.

00:24:02.000 So yes, we have multiple concepts and this affects us financially, like on a level I can't even attempt to explain.

00:24:10.000 And so are all your restaurants in California right now?

00:24:13.000 Is that right?

00:24:14.000 Right now they are, yeah.

00:24:15.000 And so kind of there's another, we could keep talking about the stove thing, but can you just elaborate a little bit more?

00:24:20.000 You're a business owner.

00:24:21.000 You know, you're in a business where it looks as if you are using organic ingredients and locally sourced product and you are creating experiences for people that is very high quality and high impact.

00:24:36.000 And the kind of push here for power and for control, are other people in your industry equally as worried about this kind of electric stove push or kind of the insertion of government into the food or restaurant business?

00:24:52.000 Or are you kind of a minority in the restaurant chef industry?

00:24:57.000 Yeah, sadly, I'm a minority.

00:24:58.000 And like, for example, I just did this spoof where I taped myself to the stove and I said, I'm protesting.

00:25:03.000 This is absurd.

00:25:03.000 And I get hundreds of messages from well-known chefs, people that I know in the industry, food network personalities, people who are like, you're killing it, man.

00:25:10.000 This is awesome.

00:25:11.000 I mean, this is just so absurd.

00:25:12.000 Well, why am I the only one speaking up?

00:25:14.000 Well, because nobody wants to get canceled.

00:25:16.000 The power right now, especially in these industries by the media and everybody's, you know, fear of getting canceled, nobody wants to speak out against the system, no matter how crazy it is.

00:25:27.000 That is sad, but true.

00:25:28.000 So you sent out a tweet here that I totally agree.

00:25:30.000 And we haven't actually had a chance to talk about this topic yet.

00:25:34.000 CBS News says children struggling with obesity should be evaluated and treated early and aggressively, including with medications for kids as young as 12 and surgery for those as young as 13.

00:25:43.000 My goodness.

00:25:44.000 According to new guidelines released Monday, you say 100%, nope, kids should not be on medicine at this age.

00:25:49.000 This will lead to a lifetime of meds, side effects, and dependency on legal drugs.

00:25:53.000 Get outside, move, cook at home, eat well, turn off the TV iPad.

00:25:56.000 Solved.

00:25:57.000 14 million kids are obese.

00:25:59.000 14 million kids are obese.

00:26:01.000 You are in the business of delivering high quality food to people.

00:26:07.000 How do we solve the childhood obesity issue?

00:26:10.000 It really is simple.

00:26:11.000 That's the thing.

00:26:11.000 And you got to also understand what's in our food.

00:26:13.000 So all of our food systems have been consolidated the same way the government is trying to consolidate absolutely everything.

00:26:19.000 And the reason that they consolidate food is because food is control.

00:26:23.000 And ultimately, they can control everybody if it's just one, two, or three major massive corporations.

00:26:28.000 Well, the way in which these corporations can continue to deliver to their shareholders and continue to deliver to the government because they've effectively merged is by decreasing the quality of their products.

00:26:38.000 And the way in which they can create more, right, larger output is by introducing chemicals and preservatives, but now they're, you know, highly toxic chemicals, in my opinion, which changes the ways that our bodies process a lot of these foods.

00:26:51.000 And all of this processed food is high in things like high fructose corn syrup, omega-6 fatty acids by way of seed oils.

00:26:58.000 And those things lead to imbalances in our natural, kind of our natural human calculus, right?

00:27:04.000 So if I've got way too many omega-6 fatty acids in my diet, then I'm going to be subject to obesity, diabetes, hypertension.

00:27:11.000 Six of the eight leading causes of death in the United States can be alleviated by the regular consumption of healthy omega-3 fatty acids.

00:27:18.000 Well, guess where those also come from?

00:27:20.000 Grass-fed beef.

00:27:21.000 Well, we have corn subsidies.

00:27:22.000 We have sugar subsidies.

00:27:23.000 We have these subsidies that have been created in order to perpetuate a system where it's just more, but it's not quality, right?

00:27:32.000 So we're eating nutrient-free food.

00:27:35.000 We used to have 400 varieties of apples in the United States.

00:27:38.000 Now we have three major varieties.

00:27:40.000 Well, what happens if one of those varieties goes out?

00:27:43.000 We just lost 33% of the entire apple output in the United States.

00:27:47.000 And I use that as one example, but that's kind of underscores, I think, the problem that we see across the entire food system.

00:27:53.000 And I said this when we were getting caught up with this whole Ukraine crisis because everyone said we're going to have food shortages because all of our wheat comes from Eastern Europe.

00:28:01.000 And I said, why is our wheat coming from Eastern Europe?

00:28:04.000 Why is all of our food coming from Eastern Europe?

00:28:06.000 We need to be buying our food locally, putting it back into our communities.

00:28:09.000 And I got completely crushed by everybody on the left.

00:28:13.000 And I'm thinking to myself, 10 years ago, this was your platform.

00:28:17.000 Your platform was anti-big pharma.

00:28:21.000 This used to be a huge issue on the left.

00:28:23.000 And I don't know where the, I don't want to politicize it than put you, you know, but it just, it's a matter of freedom and also individual sovereignty.

00:28:31.000 Whatever happened to the Locavorian movement?

00:28:33.000 I grew up in a time where I was screamed at by the vegan people that we need to have your peppers and your apples and your bananas sourced within a 90-mile range. 0.80

00:28:42.000 Now everyone's cool getting this GMO-filled garbage from Monsanto. 0.53

00:28:47.000 And you know where it came from? 0.99

00:28:49.000 Propaganda and everybody's inability to think critically.

00:28:52.000 Headlines are like drugs right now.

00:28:54.000 And news media outlets and politicians are basically the new sports stars.

00:28:58.000 When they shut down sports through COVID, everybody who was a sports fanatic suddenly became in, they were into politics.

00:29:04.000 They wanted Pelosi's name on the back of their jersey.

00:29:06.000 They've lost the ability to think critically.

00:29:08.000 And now that is translated into our food. 1.00

00:29:10.000 We're only going to get fatter and dumber. 0.80

00:29:14.000 So, Andrew, just this is such an important thing. 0.94

00:29:17.000 The food that we are eating is not the food of a couple generations before.

00:29:21.000 What do you personally do?

00:29:23.000 And what's the advice you personally give people to be able to eat nutrient-dense, non-GMO, hopefully food that is, I'm struggling to find the right word, but food that is more similar to that of a couple decades ago?

00:29:39.000 How can people actually achieve that?

00:29:39.000 Your thoughts.

00:29:41.000 First and foremost, just cooking a little bit more at home because when you cook at home, you know what's going into your food.

00:29:46.000 So you might eat something that's got a ton of nutrients in it, but then you cancel a lot of those out with the junk that's in the food.

00:29:52.000 And it's really not that difficult to cook when you learn a couple skills.

00:29:56.000 So if anybody does want to learn how to cook, all they got to do is follow me on YouTube or go to my website.

00:30:01.000 But also, really, it's simple, right?

00:30:04.000 That's a huge one.

00:30:04.000 Oils.

00:30:05.000 Cooking with butter is good.

00:30:07.000 All of these things that they tried to create to kind of hack our nutrient system, right?

00:30:12.000 Margarine, hydrogenated oils have all turned out to, of course, be cancerous and horrible for us.

00:30:18.000 And they continue with the lie.

00:30:20.000 The food pyramid is the prime example.

00:30:22.000 So cooking with whole foods, cooking with fats, eating just anything whole.

00:30:26.000 Like meat is not bad.

00:30:27.000 Meat's great for you.

00:30:29.000 Actually, meat is great for you.

00:30:30.000 Chicken, protein, high protein, utilize the fats.

00:30:33.000 Seafood is massive.

00:30:34.000 If you don't like seafood, you know, at least just go for the oils or try and find some sort of a seafood source that you like because typically they're lean proteins, even if you move into crusted crustaceans.

00:30:44.000 And nowadays, because of the freezing technology, people think frozen food is bad.

00:30:48.000 Freezing food is actually great.

00:30:50.000 Let's take advantage of technology and frozen fish, frozen fruits, frozen vegetables, all very good for you.

00:30:57.000 So, if you take a little bit of time, I hate to use the word meal prep because I think it's kind of, you know, cliched, but even if you just got some food in your fridge, even that one meal a week is enough right there.

00:31:08.000 And when you do go out to eat, just ask questions.

00:31:10.000 Try and avoid a lot of the kind of massive chains because all they're doing is just serving up shareholder profits at the expense of your health.

00:31:18.000 What oils do you use?

00:31:19.000 Do you use coconut oil?

00:31:20.000 And you definitely stay away from seeds, right?

00:31:22.000 But mostly butter.

00:31:25.000 Avocado oil is a great one.

00:31:26.000 Ghee is a really good one.

00:31:28.000 Clarified butter.

00:31:29.000 Ghee and clarified butter are effectively in the same family.

00:31:31.000 Whole butter.

00:31:33.000 Let's see.

00:31:33.000 I use a lot of, yeah, I do use coconut oils, but the avocado oil, the coconut oil, and then pure olive oil, right?

00:31:39.000 So you have extra virgin olive oil, which is really great to eat raw and to eat just dipping bread in.

00:31:44.000 And then you've got pure olive oil, which has been processed olive oil.

00:31:46.000 That is a higher smoke point.

00:31:47.000 So you can cook with the pure olive oil.

00:31:49.000 Don't spend all the money that you would for an extra virgin because you're going to cook off all that flavor.

00:31:53.000 So I have two types of olive oil: extra virgin to just eat.

00:31:56.000 And once again, like you don't even need to cook.

00:31:58.000 I'll just buy a loaf of bread, good bread or vegetables, and I'll just dip it in the olive oil, hit it with a real high-quality vinegar, and that's enough right there.

00:32:06.000 You know, mustards, make your own mayonnaise at home. 0.93

00:32:08.000 That's a simple one.

00:32:09.000 Dip the world in mayonnaise and you're good to go.

00:32:13.000 And as you notice here, he's promoting that you eat fats.

00:32:16.000 Yes, fats are actually very important to a diet.

00:32:18.000 This is why the food pyramid is a lie.

00:32:21.000 And carbohydrates are vastly overrated, especially grain-based carbohydrates.

00:32:26.000 Andrew, I hope to meet you sometime.

00:32:27.000 Congratulations on your success.

00:32:29.000 I have a great amount of respect for chefs and restaurateurs.

00:32:32.000 It's very difficult, especially during COVID and all this nonsense.

00:32:35.000 God bless.

00:32:35.000 Thank you so much.

00:32:36.000 Thanks for having me.

00:32:37.000 I appreciate it.

00:32:40.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:32:42.000 Email me your thoughts as always: freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:32:45.000 Thank you so much for listening, and God bless.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - January 13, 2023

Killer Food + Killing JFK with Jack Roth and Andrew Gruel

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