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00:01:09.000All right, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show.
00:01:33.000Let's start right in Minneapolis last night.
00:01:35.000News has just broke that the three illegals that attacked this ICE officer last night were all let in under Biden, were all Venezuelan illegals.
00:01:45.000What is your message to Jacob Fry, to Tim Waltz, to Keith Ellison, that seem to be stoking the flames of actual insurrection in the state of Minnesota?
00:01:57.000We also have rumblings in Philadelphia.
00:01:59.000What is your message to them, Stephen Miller?
00:02:01.000Well, first of all, as you mentioned, the three illegal aliens who were involved in this potentially deadly assault against an ICE officer, so somebody that could have very easily turned into a murder, and in fact, surely would have been a murder, was an attempted murder, but for the fact that the ICE officer acted heroically to save his own life and the life of others.
00:02:30.000But what we've learned is that those individuals involved in this attempted murder were let into the country by Joe Biden as part of his four-year-long policy of mass releasing illegal aliens into the United States.
00:02:44.000And so it's just an important reminder to think about where we were just one year ago when you had an administration, and that's right, just a year ago, right?
00:02:53.000A year ago, you had an administration that every day was letting thousands of any random illegals who showed up at the southern border, single adult men in most cases, into the country, resettled on tax paradigm to commit unimaginable numbers of crimes and spread havoc and mayhem all over the United States.
00:03:14.000And so this is a reminder of what an unbearable calamity we were living through as a nation during these four years of invasion and sabotage.
00:03:29.000These are the illegals that are being shielded from deportation by the mayor, the attorney general, and the governor.
00:03:38.000In the three of those individuals, you have a perfect illustration of how radical left Democrat governance consumes and destroys any paradise, any place over which they exert control.
00:03:56.000You don't have to go back very far in time where Minnesota was the scene, the picture, the epitome of American idyllic living.
00:04:08.000In other words, you don't have to go back that far.
00:04:10.000It's within our national memory to go back in time to Minnesota as a place where the idea of a riot would be impossible.
00:04:18.000You couldn't even conceive of the idea of having a riot in Minnesota, where the idea of violent crime would be unthinkable, where the idea of having massive Somali refugee welfare scams going going back in time,
00:04:36.000two generations in Minnesota, and telling the men and women who live there, there would be a day when there would be a complete resettlement of Mogadishu into Minnesota and they would be stealing all the welfare.
00:04:49.000It wouldn't have believed you if you tried.
00:04:51.000So these individuals are waging a campaign of insurrection against the federal government to protect foreign invaders who are in their state and to obstruct federal law enforcement.
00:05:04.000And it is a direct challenge in every respect to the authority of the federal government and the idea, the bedrock idea, the bedrock fact of our republic, which is that the federal government is the supreme law of the land, that the Constitution is the supreme law of the land, that states do not have the right to carry out insurrection against the federal government.
00:05:29.000Yeah, we're very glad to hear you say that.
00:05:31.000We were discussing at the outset of the show.
00:05:34.000The left clearly sees this as a big test.
00:05:37.000They recognize the importance of this.
00:05:39.000They believe that if they can force ICE to back down in this clash, then they'll have gotten away with what they did under the Biden administration, that they brought in these 15 plus million people.
00:05:51.000And if they can say it's too difficult to remove them, too disruptive to remove them, too tyrannical to remove them, they can get away with this atrocity.
00:05:59.000And we're very glad, of course, to hear that you recognize those same stakes.
00:06:04.000When you say it's insurrection, is of course a strong word.
00:06:08.000Do we have to look at possible charges, not just against rioters, but against government officials who are abetting and encouraging this?
00:06:17.000Well, I don't want to speak to any charges that may or may not apply since it's very important that whatever decisions the Department of Justice makes, whatever facts they analyze, are a result of DOJ's analysis of those facts.
00:06:40.000But what I would say very clearly is that you only have to read their own words and hear their own words and judge their own conduct to understand that this is clearly an insurgency against the federal government.
00:06:55.000They are describing the federal government as an occupying force.
00:07:01.000I mean, just think about that for a second.
00:07:03.000The federal government is responsible for the administration of federal law, the administration of federal benefits, the administration of federal resources, the administration of federal immigration enforcement in all 50 states.
00:07:18.000The federal government, whether it's providing the funding for our entitlement and our safety net programs, whether it is providing security at our airports and our ports of entry, whether it is maintaining the safety and security of our roads, our transportation, our bridges.
00:07:36.000And of course, the federal government has sole jurisdiction and authority over immigration law because we have one national immigration law.
00:07:43.000We do not have, just like we have one national currency, we have one national flag, we have one national constitution, we have one national immigration law.
00:07:52.000If you were to permit individual cities and states to ratify their own immigration laws for themselves, then you wouldn't have a republic and you wouldn't have a country.
00:08:01.000And that's the proposition that Fry and Ellison and Wals are trying to test.
00:08:05.000They are asserting that they have the unfettered right to harbor aliens who have no right to be in this country and to effectively, in fact, to incite violent insurrection from organized agitators against federal forces to prevent those federal forces from effectuating duly enacted immigration law.
00:08:32.000We had a 10-year national, it really goes back for half a century, but the last 10 years, in particular, since President Trump declared his candidacy in June of 2015, we've had a great national debate about immigration, immigration enforcement, and sovereignty.
00:08:51.000The issue, of course, was one of the largest issues in the 2016 campaign.
00:08:58.000But I think you would agree for observers, I would argue that it was an even bigger issue in the 2024 campaign.
00:09:07.000And so we had this great national debate and dialogue on immigration.
00:09:19.000So he defeated two Democrat presidential candidates in a single campaign cycle, in which one of the central critiques throughout both those campaigns was on the question of immigration.
00:09:32.000And then after we won, the first major piece of legislation that was enacted was a reconciliation bill, a budget bill to provide the largest increase in funding for immigration enforcement operations in American history.
00:09:50.000So Americans voted, then the House voted, then the Senate voted.
00:09:58.000And now you have Democrat politicians and their radical, violent agitator base using or attempting to use force to veto the result of a democratic process.
00:10:16.000In other words, they use violence to override votes.
00:10:21.000That is what you're seeing, and that is what is happening.
00:11:23.000Take any of those that you want, Stephen Miller.
00:11:26.000Yes, you're right that the last message that Charlie sent me was about dismantling the left wing's structures of organized violence.
00:11:38.000And shortly after that, In the aftermath of Charlie's assassination, President Trump issued a historic executive order that we refer to as NSPM 7, National Security Presidential Memorandum Number 7.
00:11:59.000NSPM is different than other executive orders in that it establishes the architecture and infrastructure of U.S. security policy.
00:12:11.000And that NSPM, for the first time ever, created a roadmap and a structure for treating these fifth column, this violent and fifth column, in the context of domestic terrorism.
00:12:28.000And since then, there's been enormous progress made.
00:12:33.000And we would all, of course, like more progress and more results more quickly.
00:12:39.000But there's been enormous progress that has been made in mapping out these networks and developing the kinds of cases that will be necessary to deliver that crippling blow.
00:12:56.000The kinds of work when you're talking about this is effectively counterinsurgency work is what we're describing here.
00:13:01.000And sometimes counterinsurgency work, it can take a while to develop the, you can and should get quick hits and quick arrests, absolutely.
00:13:14.000It can take some time to develop a full picture for purpose of then shattering and dismantling that organization of how it works, how it operates, how it communicates, because these are highly sophisticated organizations.
00:13:30.000What's interesting is that the is that the response to the federal presence in Minneapolis has caused a lot of these organizations to unburrow from underneath the rocks where they hide and to come out in force.
00:13:50.000Candles were lit on Bondi Beach by families, by children, by people of faith to celebrate a festival of light, a festival from Bible times, one that Jesus himself celebrated.
00:14:00.000People gathered with hope, seeking unity and comfort in tradition.
00:14:03.000But instead of light, there was darkness, violence, fear, hatred showing itself at a time meant for prayer and rejoicing.
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00:14:59.000And so, with the thousands of officers that we have now in response to the incredible threats and violence in Minnesota, there's now within that an opportunity to interdict large numbers of these insurrectionists and then use them to gain insight into these networks and deliver criminal consequences.
00:15:28.000So, you'll see a lot more progress in the near future.
00:15:32.000I also want to point out, in the interest of transparency, that there was a study that was done In 2016, and it said that for all the employees at DOJ who had a recorded political donation, that 98% were to Hillary Clinton.
00:16:01.000The greatest challenge that the administration has had with respect to the Department of Justice, which should of course be no surprise to you or your listeners and your viewers, is how thoroughly the Department of Justice at every level was infiltrated by deep state actors and activists.
00:16:21.000And, you know, one of the most important things that we can do as a movement, just like at DHS, by hiring 10,000 new ICE officers, you're also, in so doing that, you're hiring 10,000 new pro-American patriots.
00:16:36.000You're hiring 10,000 people who love their country and believe in their country and believe in the rule of law.
00:16:40.000There is a desperate need, desperate need to do the same kind of project at DOJ in the sense that we need young patriots with law degrees to choose a career at the Department of Justice.
00:16:55.000That's a medium term, that's a medium-term issue.
00:17:00.000We have the obligation to fix things in the short term.
00:17:03.000And the Department of Justice understands this.
00:17:05.000But if you want to change the character of federal law enforcement in this country, at the end of the day, the pipeline is the thing that matters most.
00:17:12.000Who are the people that are actually charging the cases?
00:17:15.000Who are the people that are actually sitting in the U.S. Attorney's offices?
00:17:18.000Who are the careers at every level of these enforcement agencies and enforcement office?
00:17:51.000And cumulatively, it matters enormously.
00:17:54.000And so the Department of Justice understands this problem and this challenge, the deep state challenge.
00:18:02.000And of course, look, every department inherited this when we came in, right?
00:18:05.000So there's a deep state at DHS, there's a deep state at DOJ, there's a deep state at the State Department, there's a deep state at DOW, right?
00:18:14.000And, you know, my last point, for example, Pete has done an extraordinary job rooting out the deep state in DOW.
00:18:21.000But if I had to tell you where do I think the deep state was the worst on day one, the most corrupt deep state that anybody inherited, it was certainly a DOJ.
00:18:31.000None of which in any way alleviates the burden that we have in the here and now to ensure that justice is done fully, fairly, completely, and swiftly.
00:18:42.000But I guess I'll just go back full circle and say that in Minnesota right now, the insurrectionists have come out of hiding.
00:18:51.000They're confronting our officers on the street.
00:18:59.000More arrests of insurrectionists are being made every day.
00:19:03.000And each of those arrests then provides an opportunity to learn more about the network from a law enforcement and national security standpoint.
00:19:32.000So you have NIVs, those are non-immigrant visas.
00:19:35.000Think, for example, like tourist visas, and then IVs, which are immigrant visas.
00:19:38.000And so they are suspending immigrant visas from 75 countries or putting them on pause, a temporary, temporary pause, because those countries have had extraordinarily high rates of welfare usage, which is a violation of federal law.
00:19:58.000In other words, an alien who is going to be on welfare is per se inadmissible.
00:20:04.000And as a side note, to be an immigrant to this country, you have to have a sponsor.
00:20:10.000That sponsor has to assert under penalty of significant financial punishment.
00:20:18.000They have to assert that they will ensure that no one they sponsor will ever go on welfare.
00:20:25.000And that if they were to ever be in any kind of financial duress, that they, the sponsor, would personally incumber the entire financial cost of that.
00:20:33.000So what you see is a system that has been broken at every single possible level.
00:20:37.000In other words, it means that the sponsors have all lied on their forms where the welfare is being used, or they haven't lied, then they failed to live up to their legal obligations.
00:20:50.000And then you have the aliens themselves who were wrongly admitted.
00:20:53.000The system is completely broken, right?
00:20:56.000In other words, that is the definition of a non-functioning system.
00:20:59.000So the State Department has been putting new measures in place, not just in those countries.
00:21:03.000I mean, these measures we put in place that will apply universally.
00:21:10.000Public charge is a universal standard.
00:21:12.000But those are the countries where the concern have been most acute in terms of extremely high rates of welfare usage.
00:21:19.000I did see questions about Brazil, and I was sort of wondering what the rationale for Brazil was.
00:21:26.000Tim Miller actually challenged me on that from the bulwark.
00:21:31.000So it's great to understand the rationale there.
00:21:33.000Final question to you, Stephen, is about defunding the sanctuary cities.
00:21:38.000Of all of the insults to our immigration laws and common sense, immigration jurisdictions are the sanctuary city jurisdictions are the most appalling to me.
00:21:49.000President Trump has announced that he is defunding them starting very soon.
00:21:53.000What can you tell us about that decision and how will it be enacted?
00:21:58.000Well, as we discussed earlier, I mean, sanctuary cities are the backbone of the legal insurrection against the sovereign authority of our government, right?
00:22:40.000But the basic concept is very straightforward, which is that we can't be providing funding to people, entities, and institutions that are effectively trying to nullify the entire structure of our federal government.
00:22:56.000And the, again, the backbone of our entire system of living.
00:23:02.000The point is that you cannot provide funding to entities that are engaged in a form of legal insurrection against the federal government.
00:23:12.000In other words, there's a single immigration law for the whole country.
00:23:16.000These are states and cities and jurisdictions that are harboring and shielding illegal aliens, particularly criminal illegal aliens, from the reach of the federal government.
00:23:26.000And that is, of course, a direct, willful, purposeful affront the whole structure of our republic.
00:23:33.000The idea that, again, we have a single national immigration law for the whole country.
00:23:37.000Don't get different immigration laws for different cities and different states.
00:23:40.000And the federal law enforcement has authority and sole authority to enforce federal immigration law.
00:23:45.000And just to go back to my point earlier on the Department of Justice, this administration, let me be very clear, has been committed from day one to restoring democracy.
00:23:57.000And let's be very clear what that means.
00:23:58.000Because I want to, because this is the kind of thing where there's deliberate, there's willful stupidity, deliberate deception on the part of the media when they discuss this issue.
00:24:11.000Let's just be very clear in understanding this.
00:24:14.000The American people elect a president.
00:24:18.000The American people do not elect a bureaucracy.
00:24:22.000The degree to which unaccountable power is vested in the hands of bureaucrats who ignore the law, who ignore elections, who ignore the Constitution to pursue their own agendas, the degree to which that is the case, in equal measure, we are less free, right?
00:24:39.000In equal measure, we are less of a republic.
00:24:43.000This is a zero-sum proposition, right?
00:24:46.000Either we have decision-making that is made across our government by duly appointed individuals as a result of a democratically held election, or we have the tyranny of a bureaucracy that pursues its own agenda at the expense of democracy and the American people.
00:25:07.000That's how we had Russia Gate and the Russia hoax and the Ukraine hoax and every other hoax and sabotage, the entire scheme, the whole coup to overthrow the president, from Mueller and Weissman and all these people, right?
00:25:27.000And then, of course, later on, Jack Smith.
00:25:31.000All of this is a contest, a struggle between whether power belongs to the people and the right of the people to choose change, to say, I want a safe city.
00:25:44.000I want to uphold our immigration laws, right?
00:25:47.000I want to have a government that's responsive to my needs and my desires.
00:25:50.000I want to make sure that our taxpayer dollars aren't robbed and stolen and wasted.
00:25:55.000The right of the American people to make those decisions versus the right of a bureaucracy to exercise an absolute veto over those decisions.
00:26:03.000And if we have a bureaucracy that can veto the decisions that the American people made lawfully and correctly through the democratic process, look, bureaucrats are going to have their own private and personal views, but what they don't get a choice on is their loyalty to the Republic, their loyalty to the Constitution, and their loyalty to the laws of the United States.
00:26:24.000And the idea that when an election is held, president gets to set the policies of the United States.
00:26:48.000We have experienced now the first year in living memory of net outflow migration out of the United States.
00:26:54.000Please, for our audience, explain how incredible, what a huge accomplishment that truly is, given all the barriers that have been thrown up in your path.
00:27:03.000I mean, thank you for raising that because it's such a reminder to everybody that you cannot get sucked into negative thinking.
00:27:12.000You have to stay, you have to be, you have to be, yes, put pressure on us.
00:27:16.000Yes, demand the most, demand the best, stay honest, light that fire, make us stronger, make us better, make us tougher, absolutely.
00:27:23.000But we also have to march forward with optimism, with purpose, with a confidence and a belief in our ability to continue winning and to achieve victory.
00:27:34.000And so the entire system, judicial, bureaucratic, every part of it, the NGOs, all of it, international pressures, everything is stacked against us having sovereign control over our borders and immigration system.
00:27:48.000For the first time in living memory, the United States had net negative migration.
00:27:54.000This hasn't happened since the modern age.
00:27:57.000This hasn't happened since air travel was widely available.
00:28:00.000Like the last data point you have to go to was a time at which the third world didn't have access to airplanes, right?
00:28:06.000Like there weren't a lot of airports in the countries that were sending migrants to us that were that were responsible for all this immigration growth in recent decades.
00:28:16.000So you're going way back to a time period in which it was much harder for the third world, the third world regions of the planet to empty out into the United States.
00:28:26.000And so this is an unprecedented achievement.
00:28:30.000Everybody said it would be impossible, and President Trump achieved it.
00:28:34.000And it's a reminder that we need to stay positive.
00:28:39.000We need to keep delivering for the American people.
00:28:41.000Stephen Miller, Deputy White House Deputy Chief of Staff and Homeland Security Advisor, you are the architect of so much that is holding the base together, that is keeping us optimistic.
00:28:56.000You let us know that we are moving forward.
00:29:43.000Just it's so I mean, he was in the first administration.
00:29:47.000He did a lot in that first administration, yet it's still, it's, they accomplished a lot in those four years, and yet it's so clear they knew more of what they needed to do this time around.
00:30:10.000Well, and I remember thinking that the number one obstacle that we were going to have to overcome as a base, as a movement, was to not get weak knee, to not give into the sob stories, to not give into the propaganda.
00:30:21.000And so they're playing their old tricks again in Minneapolis.
00:30:25.000They're thinking that this is going to break our resolve.
00:30:28.000And when you hear somebody like Stephen Miller, who is an architect of the immigration program coming from the White House from President Trump, you realize that they are not going to fold.
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00:32:16.000He's got a lot, a lot to say, but thank you so much for joining the show.
00:32:20.000I reached out to you, Nick, because I see in you somebody after Charlie, after we lost Charlie, after he was killed, there is certain voices, certain names, certain personalities with the right disposition, the right internal constitution that I believe God is raising up and promoting to help bring, you know, we're filling the back lines here and reinforcing the front lines.
00:32:46.000So that is what you are one of those people.
00:32:48.000So please just introduce yourself to our audience and welcome.
00:33:04.000As of yesterday, I'm no longer a member of the Virginia House of Delegates, but I served as a state legislator there for 10 years.
00:33:12.000Before that, I did some time in the United States Army with 82nd Airborne, 25th Infantry, did a couple of combat tours in Iraq with 1st Special Forces Group.
00:33:20.000But more than any of that, I'm a husband and a father.
00:33:23.000I've been married to my high school sweetheart for 26 years.
00:34:33.000I was listening to, you know, people are arguing about this now on the right where we're having this internal battle and we have some people arguing for more liberty and some people arguing for more order.
00:34:42.000And the bottom line is if you want a civilization that actually has ordered liberty where we can actually work and cooperate and create and build together, then virtue has to be a part of that.
00:34:52.000And how do you achieve that if you don't have, if it's not built upon something that actually provides something transcendent?
00:34:59.000If you want objective truth and objective morality, I got news.
00:35:02.000There's only one place I know to actually find those things, and that's through Christ.
00:35:06.000And I think one of the things that I always admired so much about Charlie was that it has become very, very easy and popular on the right to talk about what we're fighting against, right?
00:35:16.000Because every day we get new examples of what we're fighting against.
00:35:19.000But I think Charlie understood that the best soldiers are not the people that hate what they're fighting against.
00:35:24.000They're the ones that love what they're fighting for.
00:35:26.000And so when you put the emphasis on your relationship with God, the relationship you have with your spouse, your children, that's what actually gives you the energy.
00:35:35.000It's what gives you the discipline sometimes when motivation may fall a little bit short to keep going and to keep fighting.
00:35:42.000Because when you know what it's for, all of a sudden the obstacles don't seem so great.
00:35:48.000Yeah, I think that's really well said.
00:35:50.000And we, you know, I have to do a better job of that, of promoting what we are for, because we love this country.
00:36:05.000And I love this country so much that I'm willing to step into roles that I never imagined for myself, especially after Charlie.
00:36:12.000I'm willing to continue putting it all on the line for this country.
00:36:15.000And when you say stuff like that, it really inspires me, Nick.
00:36:18.000And, you know, you, but again, you have taken your faith and you've put it into action, not only in Virginia, but, you know, I'm looking at your Twitter feed and you're talking about the primary season.
00:36:28.000We should be replacing weak Republicans in safe districts.
00:36:32.000This is what you will have the best chance of winning and the others will get the point.
00:36:35.000So you are somebody that then takes your faith, your convictions, your love of this country.
00:37:05.000The people that I'm most convinced were doomed have probably put in the least amount of effort to save anything.
00:37:11.000And I think when we look at, okay, what is the strategy going forward?
00:37:14.000The thing I'm always going to start with is what is the thing you have most control over in your life?
00:37:18.000Because if you're spending hours of time on campaigns and on social media debating with people that are not even going to give you a fair hearing, while in the meantime, your children are being indoctrinated at school, I'm going to argue that you're probably not investing your time where it can have the most impact.
00:37:38.000What you can do about your family, your community, et cetera.
00:37:41.000But then when it does come to the political world, the other thing that's been frustrating is watching people behave as if, well, there's no real difference between the two parties.
00:37:50.000We had 300,000 people that showed up to vote for Governor Glenn Youngkin that didn't show up to vote in this last election.
00:37:56.000And you look at what Democrats are doing in the first 24 hours they've taken control.
00:37:59.000They're trying to turn Virginia into California.
00:38:02.000And it's like, look, no, you have to participate in the political process.
00:38:06.000I'm not saying you got to run for office.
00:38:08.000I'm not saying you got to make it your whole life, right?
00:38:10.000But this idea that you're going to stand back because you're either above all of that or, well, you just don't feel like that's what they should be talking about from the pulpit, garbage.
00:38:43.000All legislation is built upon a moral premise.
00:38:46.000And so whereas I don't believe that we can proselytize through the sword, I don't believe that we're supposed to use government as a mechanism to compel people to believe what I believe about God.
00:38:56.000By the same token, all law is predicated upon some set of moral principles.
00:39:02.000I would like my moral principles to be represented in that law.
00:39:06.000And so I do believe I have an obligation to go out and just speak about these things and to not only let my arguments speak for themselves, but also the way I live my life to speak for itself.
00:39:16.000Because one of the reasons why so many young people were attracted to what Charlie had to say was not simply because he gave incredibly good academically and intellectually rigorous arguments, but when you took a look at that guy's life, his marriage, his relationship with his kids, his friends, that was something to where no matter what they were told in college, they could look at that and say, I don't know what it is, and I don't know what the source of it is, but that guy's got it.
00:39:41.000That's somebody who's worth listening to, not because he's got a degree that he's pointing to, but because he's got a lifetime worth of accomplishments at a young age that I would love to emulate.
00:39:50.000And that's the thing that we need to do more of, is actually demonstrate to people what it is that they're fighting for.
00:39:56.000And nobody did it better than Charlie.
00:39:59.000I think that's actually an incredibly powerful point there, Nick, that we ran into so many people who would say, I disagree with Charlie on XYZ thing.
00:40:09.000But that magnetic pull because he lived what he preached so well.
00:40:14.000And people have seen so many hypocritical politicians, so many hypocritical public figures, hypocritical preachers and pastors.
00:40:33.000That's one of the strongest things that you can offer.
00:40:35.000And it was always funny because Charlie would run into that where people would say, oh, Charlie, I disagree with you on XYZ, but I love all you've accomplished.
00:40:41.000And you just say, what's stopping you?
00:40:45.000You can have all of these same things.
00:40:48.000But it ties into what you just said, which is it is so important, I think, especially when we've been getting these emails where it's like, how do we come together?
00:40:57.000That Charlie believes strongly in representing a position to advocate for, especially when the right is so defined currently by just being an ad hoc coalition of people opposed to the left.
00:41:09.000Our biggest weakness is the sense that we don't have a strong affirmative premise.
00:41:14.000What would we do if the left disappeared?
00:42:57.000They have to call it the House of Burgesses if they're going to pull it.
00:42:59.000Well, you know, it's like, I always think of Virginia, and I think of, you know, George Washington, and I think, you know, the sort of rural agrarian statesman.
00:43:34.000I mean, first and foremost, it's this idea.
00:43:36.000If you were to ask kind of what we think our mission is, it's the idea of godly men and women becoming godly husbands and wives, becoming godly mothers and fathers.
00:43:43.000Because the idea is, you show me a country comprised of those sorts of people, and I'll show you a country whose politics you don't got to worry about.
00:43:50.000So, it always starts with this idea of, okay, as a man, what am I trying to do to be the sort of man that God wants me to be, to be the sort of man that my husband or my wife needs, to be the sort of man that my children need.
00:44:02.000And when I'm focusing on those things, what ends up developing as a consequence of that is I get a lot closer to being the sort of man that my community needs and that my country needs.
00:44:11.000And so, I want people to once again be focused on what is their obligation to God, what is their obligation to their family, and then how are they developing the spiritual, emotional, physical, professional, intellectual skills to be able to do that.
00:44:24.000With respect to my country, I want a free country, but what does that mean?
00:44:29.000I want a free country that is actually rooted in the idea that the only way that you can have liberty that makes any sense is that if you actually have a culture which is committed to truth, which is committed to virtue.
00:44:40.000And so, when I look at the way that our founders actually formed this government, I think they were onto something.
00:44:46.000It was this idea that we're going to reserve the vast majority of decision-making power to the individual citizen.
00:44:53.000To the extent that we have government, fine, at the local level, they're going to be the ones that deal with the things that are the most intimate to your day-to-day lives.
00:45:00.000Then we have the states, which are also supposed to operate as sovereign entities within their jurisdictions.
00:45:05.000And when it comes to the federal government, it's only going to worry about those things which genuinely impact the country as a whole.
00:45:11.000The federal government was never meant to micromanage our education, our healthcare, our economy.
00:45:16.000Stephen Miller is 100% accurate when we say that the federal bureaucracy is one of the greatest threats to a free people ever, because those bureaucracies have, they have goals and objectives of their own, which run contrary to a free state.
00:45:31.000And so, I want a government which once again understands its proper role, I would argue, in God's created order.
00:45:37.000You know, again, keep us safe, enforce contract law, make sure that nobody is invading the country.
00:45:42.000But I don't need a government to try to play daddy for everybody.
00:45:46.000I need a government to stay within its proper role so that free people can figure things out through voluntary cooperation.
00:45:53.000And I think if we could get back to that point of understanding that if you really want to be free, then that also includes a great deal of personal responsibility.
00:46:01.000And Adams probably said it best when he said our Constitution is written for a moral and religious people and is totally unsuited to the government of any other.
00:46:08.000And so it's about once again recognizing that if we can, if we, again, have that shared commitment for objective truth, objective morality, if we can understand the author of objective truth and morality, then I think we can have this sort of place where we're so good at governing ourselves and in our daily interactions with our family, with our friends, with our community, that the idea that we would need the government to try to run in and micromanage all these aspects would just seem absurd to us.
00:46:34.000You know, it's just such a paradigm shift, what you're describing, that I just, so many people would not even be able because the left has led us down this path for basically a century of big brother government taking care of us that to fully feel empowered, to enjoy the totality of your individual agency will really take a revival.
00:47:15.000They need to get married before they have sex.
00:47:18.000They need to stop engaging in debauchery and limitless amounts of drinking and the sins of the flesh and understand that there's a God who loves them that wants them to live a certain way.
00:47:28.000And it's not a matter of the feminist movement or the Black Lives Matter movement.
00:47:33.000We need a movement that is centered around spiritual, eternal principles.
00:47:37.000But a revival will only happen with repentance, and repentance is at odd with pride.
00:47:45.000Those two things are fundamental towards having hopefully the humility of getting in front of your creator, understanding that you fall short of the glory of God with the eyes on the cross and understanding the significance of what the cross is and what it means for your life.
00:48:01.000I just love hearing him just preach it.
00:49:01.000And what he was getting to is that there's social, there's academic consequences, there's potentially economic consequences.
00:49:06.000I looked at him and I said, look, I'm not discounting those, but here's what I will tell you.
00:49:11.000Every time you suffer anything, no matter how minor, your immediate response should be, thank you, God, that I could suffer something for your name.
00:49:20.000Because as soon as you take in that attitude, then every time it happens, you're not upset.
00:49:25.000You're smiling because you know what it represents.
00:49:28.000And if you actually want to foster the kind of mindset that can save your country, that's it, because you're not going to do it apart from the revival side.
00:49:37.000Secular humanism, it's not as if we're not living in an environment which has been inextricably shaped by secular humanism for the last several decades.
00:49:48.000It's amazing to me that when I actually mention Jesus, when I mention the Bible, I will have people on our side that will say, Nick, I like what you have to say, but can you leave God out of it?
00:49:57.000No, he's the author of what I'm talking about.
00:50:01.000It would be plagiarism for me to suggest that these are just Nick Freitas' idea.
00:50:06.000But here's what I would ask you to consider.
00:50:09.000If you trusted Charlie and you agreed that he could give really good arguments, if you can look around at the world right now and what's actually been governing up until this point and come to the recognition that the people least happy, we think we're unhappy with what's going on with woke.
00:50:25.000Go look at the charts of the people most likely to actually be diagnosed with a mental health issue.
00:50:31.000And it's young women between the ages of 18 and 29 who identify as liberal.
00:50:35.000They are the ones suffering the most from what they have accomplished.
00:50:40.000And at this point, I think it's perfectly reasonable for us to say we're advocating for something else.
00:50:46.000And the answer is not just in the arguments that we use.
00:50:49.000It's not just in the logical consistency or effectiveness of the arguments and the way that we construct them.
00:50:55.000It's actually found in the way we live our lives and the results of those actions in that worldview.
00:51:00.000Blake, I don't want to cut you out of this.
00:51:04.000If you have questions, please, by all means.
00:51:18.000Spiritual battle, light versus darkness.
00:51:22.000I mean, how much of that do you see, whether it's the infighting on the right, whether it's some of the progressive ideology, the Marxist ideology?
00:51:31.000How much do you think this defines our current moment?
00:51:36.000I challenge anyone to just go with an open mind and read the book of Romans and not think it provides a perfect example of what we see going on around us.
00:51:45.000It's this idea of people being totally given over to a way of thinking that bears no, forget morality.
00:51:55.000When you have Supreme Court justices or you have people arguing before the highest courts in the land that cannot make distinctions between a man or a woman is because they're terrified of the political implications, I think we have to understand that there's a spiritual component here.
00:52:08.000And by the way, if you believe in God, then believing in the spiritual should be obvious and logical.
00:52:12.000I think the spiritual component cannot be undermined.
00:52:17.000It can't just be this side component where we think if we make a really good economic argument, that'll win the day.
00:52:23.000We've seen what happens when you actually have a conservative movement that is obsessed with the economic, but then gives up on the true moral issues of our day.
00:52:31.000And it turns out that Democrats or leftists or wokeists, they don't mind moving to your state to take the tax advantages and then all of a sudden push their indoctrination within your school system.
00:52:40.000So I think we have to understand what it is that we're fighting for on a fundamental level.
00:52:45.000And I think the key to this is that when you look at young men and you look at the overwhelming numbers for which they are returning to the faith, where they're trying to look at something that will actually give them an identity that is transcendent, that's incredibly encouraging.
00:53:00.000That tells me that the right questions are being asked within the next generation because they're not just interested in how they get onto a campaign or how do they run for office.
00:53:08.000They're actually interested in the things that are virtuous and moral and noble and just.
00:53:14.000And by the way, they want a cause to fight for.
00:53:16.000They want to risk something for what they believe.
00:53:19.000They just want to make sure it's worth it.
00:53:21.000And as they walk back into our churches right now, the most important message I can send out to the men in those churches is you have a generation of young men looking for answers, looking for truth, and they want to be honorable.
00:53:31.000What do they find when they walk into your church?
00:53:34.000Because if they find weak men, if they find men that are unwilling to stand for anything, if they find men that are unwilling to accept risk, if they find men that may talk a good game, but don't live it out, I promise you they have other options to listen to.
00:53:46.000Because the one thing I know is woke loses.
00:54:43.000I just want to full circle why I thought it was important to have you on is because I do believe God is raising up more leaders that are going to be more and more prominent and you're one of those.
00:54:54.000So thank you for making the time for us today.