The Charlie Kirk Show - October 28, 2026


Lies and Dirty Tricks + Our Debate with Tim Miller

The Left's Plan if They Win

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00:00:03.000 My name is Charlie Kirk.
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00:01:17.000 Welcome back, everybody.
00:01:19.000 It is October 28th, 2026.
00:01:24.000 We are live from the YRefi Studios in Phoenix, Arizona.
00:01:27.000 Honored to be with you all.
00:01:29.000 Lots to get into today.
00:01:30.000 How are we doing, Blake?
00:01:31.000 Oh, we're doing all right.
00:01:32.000 Check the shirt.
00:01:33.000 The Vote Early shirt.
00:01:34.000 The Vote Early shirt.
00:01:35.000 That was a Charlie Kirk special.
00:01:38.000 Remember, if you are at least in Arizona, At this point, don't mail in your ballot through the post office because it's got to get in by that day.
00:01:45.000 So you can drop it off in person if you filled it out.
00:01:48.000 You can just drop it in the box.
00:01:50.000 Or if you're having a hard time finding it, you can nullify that ballot, get a new ballot printed for you, submit that.
00:01:55.000 Just go to voteready.com.
00:01:57.000 Vote ready.com.
00:01:59.000 Anywhere you are, just plug in your address and it will give you instructions on how to vote, where you can vote, and all the rest.
00:02:06.000 Vote ready.com.
00:02:07.000 We should get that on the URL on the bottom here because I'm going to be bringing it up a lot here.
00:02:13.000 We just had a.
00:02:14.000 Ballot drop of about 100,000.
00:02:16.000 We don't have any graphics made because it's breaking hot off the presses.
00:02:19.000 I was just telling Steve Bannon about this at the end of his show.
00:02:23.000 So, about 100,000 ballots came in through Maricopa.
00:02:26.000 It is the Monday voters, right?
00:02:29.000 So, this was the first day that expanded early in person was available across Maricopa.
00:02:34.000 100,000, R plus 1.3.
00:02:37.000 R plus 1.3.
00:02:38.000 So, not bad.
00:02:39.000 Could have been better, but definitely in the right direction, okay?
00:02:44.000 R plus 1.3.
00:02:45.000 What that means is we need everybody to get out and vote.
00:02:49.000 We need everybody to get out and vote.
00:02:51.000 Get your friends to vote.
00:02:54.000 Everybody needs to be on board with this across the country.
00:02:58.000 Arizona is the model that we are building out.
00:03:00.000 We want to scale it everywhere.
00:03:02.000 We want everybody to grab this model.
00:03:03.000 We're banking low propensity voters.
00:03:06.000 We're getting out our low props.
00:03:08.000 High prop voters, obviously, a lot of those want to come, and that's prop propensity.
00:03:12.000 High propensity.
00:03:13.000 Make sure I'm using words everybody understands.
00:03:16.000 A lot of those are going to come out on election day early in person in the coming days.
00:03:20.000 So everybody needs to get out.
00:03:22.000 This is a base turnout operation, folks.
00:03:25.000 Reminder: 160 million people vote in the general.
00:03:27.000 About 100 million people are expected to vote in the midterm.
00:03:30.000 That means we have more than enough votes out there.
00:03:35.000 If we show up, we win.
00:03:36.000 That is as simple as I can put it.
00:03:38.000 So very good progress in Arizona.
00:03:40.000 We are within striking distance.
00:03:42.000 Let's defy the odds, let's defy the polls.
00:03:46.000 Let's put Andy Biggs in place as the governor.
00:03:50.000 I always want to say in the governor's mansion.
00:03:51.000 We don't have one.
00:03:52.000 We don't have one.
00:03:53.000 We should probably vote for one, but it seems like it'd be nice to have.
00:03:57.000 So, so much to get to.
00:03:58.000 A really quick update on the Israel elections here.
00:04:02.000 I know that was a big story out of yesterday.
00:04:04.000 We didn't cover it.
00:04:06.000 Frankly, we had no read on how it was going to go.
00:04:09.000 And essentially, it's resulted in about what we expected.
00:04:13.000 Basically, a tie.
00:04:13.000 Because we didn't know where it was going to go.
00:04:15.000 It's basically a tie.
00:04:16.000 It looks like Netanyahu sort of has won, but he doesn't have enough to form a government.
00:04:21.000 So I wouldn't expect a government to be formed in Israel for another couple of months, candidly.
00:04:26.000 They always negotiate it out.
00:04:29.000 And he's going to have to get major concessions.
00:04:31.000 Exactly. 1.00
00:04:31.000 They have a very dumb system. 1.00
00:04:33.000 It's like. 0.99
00:04:34.000 Pure proportional representation.
00:04:36.000 And so here in the U.S., you swing five points to the Republicans or five points to the Democrats, and a zillion House seats flip.
00:04:44.000 There, it's just entirely what percentage you get.
00:04:47.000 So if you guys have a 52 48 election, it's a 52 48 split.
00:04:51.000 But in Israel, they have the Arab parties. 0.54
00:04:53.000 They have 10 to the power. 0.99
00:04:53.000 Well, the Arab parties showed up in big numbers. 0.99
00:04:55.000 They did.
00:04:55.000 And so the point is.
00:04:56.000 That's part of the problem.
00:04:57.000 But that's part of it because both sides, and if you're in an Israeli Jewish party, they don't consider it.
00:05:02.000 It's generally not considered acceptable to caucus with the Arab parties, or at least you have to have.
00:05:07.000 Be very careful about doing it, but that means 15% of the seats are just sort of not there. 0.95
00:05:11.000 So you basically need 60% or so of the Jewish seats to form a government. 0.99
00:05:17.000 It's just a giant, big mess. 1.00
00:05:18.000 Be glad we have a more normal election system in the U.S. because at least you get decisive results one way or the other.
00:05:25.000 Yes, exactly.
00:05:26.000 So this is kind of a TBD.
00:05:31.000 We don't know exactly how Netanyahu is going to form a government, but he is.
00:05:38.000 Slightly ahead, I guess, if you could put it that way.
00:05:40.000 All right, I want to tell you about another major story that the New York Times has brought us this morning.
00:05:45.000 The New York Times has done great work for us lately.
00:05:48.000 I will tell you, you know, when they get it right, they get it right.
00:05:50.000 Obviously, they have more resources and more reporters than anybody else.
00:05:53.000 And so, this is just coming out from the New York Times.
00:05:56.000 And I think it is illustrative of just how savage the left is.
00:06:00.000 Inside Democrats' secret effort to stack Alaska's midterm ballot with another Dan Sullivan. 0.92
00:06:06.000 This is one of the nuts, nutso, most craziest.
00:06:10.000 Insane stories that I have ever read.
00:06:13.000 And this is how it started.
00:06:16.000 In the summer of 2025, a staffer for Mary Peltola, who is the Democrat running for Senate in Alaska, was eyeing a run for Senate, received unusual instructions from top campaign aides.
00:06:30.000 Find as many people named Dan Sullivan in Alaska as you can.
00:06:35.000 The staffer complied, combing through voter records to produce a list of Dan Sullivans from across the state.
00:06:41.000 Now, For those of you who are unaware, Dan Sullivan is the Republican Senator from Alaska.
00:06:49.000 So they were looking for other Dan Sullivans, which we know has arrived on this ballot.
00:06:54.000 There are two Dan Sullivans on the ballot.
00:06:56.000 There are two Dan Sullivans on the ballot.
00:06:59.000 They're entirely there just to mess it up, just to get a few people who might be older, have a hard time reading, not follow things, get confused, get them to vote for the wrong Dan Sullivan.
00:07:09.000 This guy is 100% a radical anti-Trumper.
00:07:13.000 Democrat.
00:07:14.000 They've lied about this repeatedly.
00:07:16.000 This is what stands out in the article that they lied about this endlessly.
00:07:20.000 The Peltola campaign has repeatedly denied any involvement in the other Dan Sullivan's candidacy, but the Times has found, based on interviews and text messages, along with documents prepared for a potential lawsuit, that not only did Ms. Peltola's team work with the people trying to recruit Mr. Sullivan to run for Senate, but the effort was much broader.
00:07:38.000 They worked to coax other would be spoilers into the race to dilute the incumbent's support.
00:07:43.000 And catapult the Democrat to victory.
00:07:45.000 And this is fairly important because there have been legal challenges to this candidacy, arguing this guy is not a good faith candidate.
00:07:53.000 He's only there to confuse the process and essentially deprive people of their civil rights by messing up their votes.
00:08:00.000 And they denied this repeatedly.
00:08:01.000 And that was why these challenges failed.
00:08:04.000 They said, you can argue that it looks like that, but you don't have proof.
00:08:07.000 The Times has the proof in spades.
00:08:10.000 They got a former employee on this campaign to come forward and say, yeah, this was centrally planned by our campaign.
00:08:18.000 They made plans to fund it, they made all the plans to find the potential people.
00:08:22.000 They approached them and asked them to run.
00:08:25.000 They got legal support for them, financial support.
00:08:28.000 They asked donors, hey, instead of giving all your money to us, can you fund, dilute, Divert your money to these people to get these spoiler efforts going.
00:08:36.000 It's absolutely flagrant what they were doing.
00:08:38.000 This is one of the most cynical stories that you will hear in all of politics.
00:08:44.000 It's creative, it's cunning, but cynical as hell.
00:08:49.000 So I want to focus in on what Blake just said.
00:08:53.000 The Petola campaign denied having anything to do with this, they denied it straight to the voters' face. 0.96
00:09:01.000 They lied like a bunch of cheats. 0.86
00:09:05.000 And then it turns out. 0.91
00:09:07.000 They had everything to do with it.
00:09:08.000 It was centrally planned.
00:09:10.000 They did this.
00:09:11.000 They recruited Dan Sullivan, who is, by the way, a retired teacher from a tiny fishing village along the Alaskan panhandle, reachable only by air and sea.
00:09:23.000 And voila, magically, he announced his candidacy for Senate.
00:09:28.000 His name was Dan J. Sullivan.
00:09:30.000 Imagine that.
00:09:31.000 What else will they lie to you about?
00:09:34.000 So, another story that came out, I mean, please tell your friends about just how.
00:09:41.000 Cynical. 0.96
00:09:42.000 The disgusting lies, just lying to their face out of Alaska. 0.99
00:09:46.000 The Peltola campaign. 0.55
00:09:48.000 I mean, if this doesn't get you out to vote for Dan Sullivan and secure that Senate seat, I don't know what will.
00:09:53.000 Because that, I mean, what else will she lie out to you?
00:09:55.000 I know the vast majority of the people listening to this don't have the right to vote in Alaska.
00:09:59.000 On the other hand, this could be the race that decides it.
00:10:01.000 This is an incumbent Republican.
00:10:03.000 Yeah.
00:10:03.000 It's very possible.
00:10:04.000 He's expected to lose.
00:10:06.000 It's very, very possible you get to 49, 50 by the end of the night and we're all looking at Alaska.
00:10:11.000 Okay, so get if you have friends and family in Alaska, tell them this.
00:10:16.000 Send them the New York Times article.
00:10:17.000 Share that article because this is a Republican state voted Trump by a mile.
00:10:21.000 It's got a, but the fact they're considering voting for a Democrat means you're taking people who think, oh, there must be moderates.
00:10:26.000 We can give them a shot. 0.95
00:10:28.000 This campaign, this woman, she lied to you repeatedly through her teeth. 0.97
00:10:32.000 They said, no involvement in this. 1.00
00:10:35.000 Wink.
00:10:35.000 And okay, if you want to go wink, wink, nudge, nudge, we knew our friends were doing it, but we're not admitting to it.
00:10:40.000 No, they centrally planned this.
00:10:42.000 Centrally organized it, sent text messages to each other, getting updates, lined up the money for it, and then they lied aggressively about it and then probably did threats behind the scenes.
00:10:52.000 The New York Times article also says they got a former staffer to divulge all of this, show them all of the texts, and then she later tries to walk it back and say, I retract everything.
00:11:02.000 And the Times has in the article where they say, We don't allow people to retract in that way.
00:11:06.000 So we told her we're running this anyway.
00:11:08.000 So what was going on behind the scenes there?
00:11:10.000 It's very nasty, very thuggish.
00:11:12.000 And look, we know some. 0.84
00:11:14.000 Dirty tricks happen in all campaigns.
00:11:18.000 Republicans fight to have the Green Party on the ballot.
00:11:20.000 Democrats fight to have libertarians on the ballot.
00:11:22.000 There's a degree of normal stuff that you do to ballot stacking.
00:11:28.000 But to aggressively go and just try to confuse voters, get someone of the same name, lie about it repeatedly, lie about how you went about it, I think it really stands out as low behavior.
00:11:39.000 And they say repeatedly that this is probably legal, but I feel like with the evidence they have, it shouldn't be.
00:11:46.000 They very possibly argued in court.
00:11:48.000 And told lies in court about how this came about.
00:11:51.000 They should look at that.
00:11:52.000 The other big breaking news this morning, turn our attention to Flavio Bolsonaro in Brazil.
00:11:59.000 He has arrived on U.S. soil.
00:12:02.000 His plane landed safely in Miami.
00:12:06.000 This was, of course, orchestrated at least in part by Secretary Rubio and the State Department.
00:12:13.000 President Trump is on record saying he would allow it, he would bless this.
00:12:17.000 And it's crazy that we're even at this point where a man.
00:12:24.000 Who's beloved was leading in all the polls, all these shenanigans, these statistical improbabilities.
00:12:33.000 And Lula immediately turns around and sits his attack dogs on these guys, tries to seize his passport.
00:12:39.000 He has to evacuate, flee his country because they were going to throw him in prison.
00:12:46.000 This is our hemisphere.
00:12:48.000 Okay. 1.00
00:12:48.000 It's one thing when we start talking about sand and death in the Middle East. 1.00
00:12:52.000 And yeah, you're going to lose me on a lot of that. 0.96
00:12:54.000 Okay.
00:12:55.000 I'm sick of fighting in the Middle East, but the Western Hemisphere, this is our playground. 0.90
00:12:59.000 This is our sandbox. 0.99
00:13:01.000 And this kind of crap should not be happening in the Western Hemisphere. 0.99
00:13:05.000 We should not stand by idly and allow Brazil to act like a thuggish third world kleptocracy. 0.99
00:13:13.000 It's a dictatorship, is what it is now.
00:13:15.000 And they have weaponized the judicial system, but good for his family, okay?
00:13:20.000 Good for him and his family that they got out.
00:13:22.000 Flavio Bolsonaro, his passport was canceled.
00:13:24.000 He was forced to flee by Lula.
00:13:27.000 Alexandre de Mores, the.
00:13:30.000 The insane attack dog of Lula, who is this judge that has completely weaponized total judicial dictatorship. 0.53
00:13:40.000 It's absolute lunacy what they have there. 0.57
00:13:42.000 Did you see exactly how he got out, by the way?
00:13:43.000 It's pretty funny because, yeah, tell the audience, yeah.
00:13:47.000 So, the way they were, you know, they confiscated one of his passports or canceled it, and then they apparently put out this fake story that he'd already escaped the country so that they would freak out, start be freaking out.
00:13:57.000 Meanwhile, they just go to a normal.
00:14:00.000 Argentine land border gate, and they show him, I guess he has a second passport, and just presented their documents.
00:14:07.000 Argentina says, Okay, and they just legally let them all in. 0.81
00:14:09.000 Thank goodness for Argentina. 0.96
00:14:10.000 Javier Millay came up big in that.
00:14:13.000 So, you know, listen.
00:14:16.000 We don't want foreign distractions going right into midterms, but at the same time, this is standing up for what's right.
00:14:21.000 And one of the biggest wins we have in this administration is there have been very ugly, very authoritarian left wing regimes all across Latin America that have wrecked their countries, wrecked people's lives.
00:14:32.000 And there's been a big one of the most inspiring stories of the past five years is the reaction against that.
00:14:37.000 That from El Salvador Bukele showed we don't need to live this way.
00:14:41.000 All these other governments are imitating him.
00:14:43.000 They're getting massively popular as a result.
00:14:45.000 They are rejecting the left in Chile, in Argentina, in Peru, in Ecuador, in Venezuela, it looks like.
00:14:52.000 And Brazil should have the chance to do the same.
00:14:55.000 And they just have very ugly, thuggish regime.
00:14:58.000 I'm worried Brazil is headed in the direction of Brazil, Andrew.
00:15:01.000 Yeah, exactly. 0.99
00:15:03.000 Brazilification. 0.99
00:15:04.000 We have to warn about the Brazilification of America with our democracy. 0.97
00:15:07.000 And the third worlding of our Democrat Party. 0.87
00:15:10.000 And now it's time for them to face consequences.
00:15:13.000 Okay.
00:15:14.000 They do deserve to face the full force of American diplomatic and economic sanctions.
00:15:20.000 Okay. 1.00
00:15:21.000 Until they stop acting like a banana republic. 0.79
00:15:24.000 And by the way, I think this election should be annulled. 0.94
00:15:27.000 I don't think anybody of good standing within the Western world should be acknowledging this election.
00:15:33.000 All right.
00:15:34.000 So here's the deal the Trump administration earlier lifted the.
00:15:39.000 Magnitsky Act sanctions on Demoris, that runaway judge, this tyrant judge, and his wife and his holding company last December.
00:15:47.000 They should immediately reimpose those sanctions.
00:15:51.000 All right.
00:15:52.000 Visa bans should be imposed on every government official who has touched the Bolsonaro investigations and their families, too.
00:15:59.000 You mess with Bolsonaro, you act like a banana republic, you're not allowed in America.
00:16:05.000 Visa ban.
00:16:07.000 All right.
00:16:08.000 And then we need to impose tariffs.
00:16:10.000 We need to impose tariffs, double, quadruple them on Brazil in the ways that hurt the Lula regime the most.
00:16:16.000 All right.
00:16:17.000 They should fear acting like this.
00:16:21.000 Lula should fear acting like this.
00:16:23.000 And by the way, if he tries to cozy up with China and the CCP or Russia, make that hurt too.
00:16:31.000 So I don't know what's going to happen next, but I have a feeling that Secretary Marco Rubio is looking at all the options and he is reporting to President Trump.
00:16:39.000 And they are saying Flavio is safely back at home in Miami or safely in Miami, not at home.
00:16:48.000 Step two make it hurt.
00:16:50.000 And I hope that they do consider this.
00:16:52.000 This is our hemisphere, baby.
00:16:53.000 You don't mess with it.
00:16:54.000 You don't mess with it.
00:16:55.000 You don't turn into a tin pot dictatorship by rigging your polls and your elections.
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00:18:01.000 Without further ado, we have a really fun segment, a couple segments here for the rest of this hour.
00:18:06.000 Tim Miller, host of the Bulwark podcast and author of Why We Did It.
00:18:11.000 Tim, welcome to the show.
00:18:13.000 It's good to have you.
00:18:14.000 Hey, Andrew.
00:18:15.000 Thanks for hosting me, man, and everybody here.
00:18:17.000 As you said, we're going to disagree a lot.
00:18:19.000 So I just do want to say up top, like you said, I went to Amfest every year for, I don't know, like four years.
00:18:24.000 And you guys always really welcomed me.
00:18:26.000 And.
00:18:27.000 Charlie was always nice.
00:18:28.000 I never got to debate him.
00:18:29.000 I think you were blocking that.
00:18:30.000 We kind of wanted to do that.
00:18:32.000 So I wish I would have had the chance to do that.
00:18:33.000 But I mean, I was just horrified last year.
00:18:38.000 And I was then doubly horrified by people who spread conspiracy theories about it or that cheered it on.
00:18:45.000 And I find any of that despicable.
00:18:47.000 And I'm grateful that you guys are having me on because that's what it's about.
00:18:50.000 Like we can have open debate, we can disagree.
00:18:52.000 I disagree to Charlie a lot.
00:18:53.000 We're going to disagree a lot.
00:18:54.000 But yeah, I feel like that's one place of agreement.
00:18:57.000 Yeah, no, for sure.
00:18:58.000 And I know that about you.
00:18:59.000 Tim, and you were very kind in the aftermath, and I knew it was heartfelt, and I knew you meant it.
00:19:07.000 And from there, you know, we're all humans, we can disagree.
00:19:10.000 You have some of the worst ideas and takes I've ever seen.
00:19:13.000 Like on the entire internet, I'm always just like, do it.
00:19:17.000 Usually I text you behind the scenes, be like, what are you talking about?
00:19:19.000 Like, what on earth?
00:19:20.000 Where are you getting this stuff from?
00:19:22.000 So, why don't you just introduce yourself really quickly, briefly?
00:19:25.000 You used to be a Republican, you used to work in Republican politics, you were a consultant, you wrote a whole memoir kind of.
00:19:32.000 You know, mea culpa.
00:19:34.000 I was contributing to some toxicity in the country.
00:19:38.000 So, explain your path here.
00:19:41.000 Yeah.
00:19:42.000 Look, I came up in Republican politics as a communications guy, a press secretary.
00:19:46.000 I worked traditionally for the more moderate candidates, you know, so we didn't have a lot of W's.
00:19:51.000 I worked for John McCain in 08, Romney in 12 on the RNC side, and then Jeb! in 16 with some winning races in the middle of that, you know, in the midterm years.
00:20:03.000 But look, I always saw myself as kind of a moderate, squishy Republican.
00:20:08.000 When Trump came down the escalator, I think as a political matter, I obviously misjudged his strength, but I think that I accurately judged.
00:20:17.000 His character, and I didn't like what he was arguing for the country.
00:20:22.000 I don't like what his view of America is.
00:20:24.000 I think he has a very dark view of America that's fundamentally at odds to what Reagan argued for the fact that we were a shining city on a hill and that this was a welcoming country.
00:20:34.000 And so I flipped.
00:20:37.000 And I think that my critiques of the Trump party have borne themselves out.
00:20:42.000 We can hash that out if you want.
00:20:43.000 And I went through a period in the wilderness, and now I have a daily podcast.
00:20:47.000 We're competitors.
00:20:47.000 I think I'm beating you in the charts right now.
00:20:49.000 I think you are.
00:20:49.000 I think you are.
00:20:50.000 You're doing great.
00:20:51.000 Honestly, your show blew up.
00:20:52.000 The most surprising development of your career is how successful your podcast has been.
00:20:58.000 I will concede that point.
00:20:59.000 Blake had a point.
00:21:00.000 Well, I guess you're saying you believe your critiques have been borne out.
00:21:03.000 And I think, sorry, I'm going to get very combative here.
00:21:06.000 We're six days out from a midterm.
00:21:08.000 I think you ran representing, for example, Jeb Bush.
00:21:11.000 I was just looking up how Jeb Bush reacted to Donald Trump's rhetoric on immigration, on securing the border.
00:21:18.000 And what Jeb Bush said is that Donald Trump's plan was unrealistic.
00:21:22.000 We are here 10 years later, and we have actually have a secured border, which was never secured under Jeb's brother.
00:21:29.000 It was never secured under Obama.
00:21:30.000 It was willfully open to an incredibly malignant degree under Joe Biden.
00:21:36.000 We now have a secure border.
00:21:38.000 How does that represent a bad trajectory for the GOP?
00:21:41.000 That we actually have people who are illegal visa overstays being arrested and deported from the country, like a lot of people, including Jeb Bush, promised to do.
00:21:50.000 It is now actually happening.
00:21:52.000 And I just feel like we've seen that a lot with Donald Trump, and you may dislike his rhetoric a lot.
00:21:57.000 We dislike his rhetoric a lot sometimes, like the Rob Reiner post.
00:22:01.000 But it strikes me that we talked about this a couple of weeks ago.
00:22:05.000 This is an administration that, more than any other we have seen, actually seems hyper focused on delivering promises that were fake promises from the GOP for a very long time.
00:22:16.000 Well, I disagree with a lot more about Trump than his rhetoric.
00:22:19.000 I disagree with his action.
00:22:20.000 So I guess we'll just start right there.
00:22:22.000 I just want to put the border to a side.
00:22:23.000 I'm going to come back to it.
00:22:24.000 I think there are a bunch of other issues where he's betrayed.
00:22:26.000 You guys, and he's betrayed his promises in the base.
00:22:29.000 So I don't agree with that.
00:22:30.000 I mean, he started a war of choice that is making us less prepared in the world from a military perspective.
00:22:38.000 It is costing us a lot of money.
00:22:39.000 It has cost us lives, and it's making things more expensive for people at home.
00:22:43.000 So he's betrayed his promise when it comes to lowering costs to people. 0.80
00:22:46.000 He's betrayed his promise about not, you know, getting us into dumb wars in the Middle East.
00:22:50.000 And he's also really betrayed his promise to an unimaginable degree about draining the swamp. 0.75
00:22:55.000 He's running the most corrupt presidency that we've had in American history by a wide margin.
00:23:00.000 So we can discuss any of those things if you want.
00:23:01.000 On the immigration side of things, look, he has secured the border.
00:23:05.000 And I acknowledge that.
00:23:07.000 And I think that that is probably the one thing from this administration that he could point to as a success.
00:23:13.000 But unfortunately, it's come with some extremely anti American actions that I think speak to what Jeb's critique was that it is unrealistic to do what he said to do unless you want to act in a way that is contrary to the rule of law and the way that we do things in this country.
00:23:28.000 I mean, he has massed agents in the street.
00:23:30.000 Shooting people down.
00:23:31.000 We don't even get to see the agents of the state or know their names.
00:23:35.000 That's not true.
00:23:37.000 We have massed agents in our streets, like it's East Germany right now.
00:23:40.000 We can't even see the face of the ICU agents.
00:23:41.000 We don't get to know who they are.
00:23:43.000 Well, hold on.
00:23:43.000 There is a whole doxing campaign on the radical left to target the ICE agents and their families.
00:23:49.000 But I've been doxxed.
00:23:50.000 You've been doxxed.
00:23:51.000 We're here showing our faces.
00:23:52.000 I'm sorry, if you work for the government, if I say every pop up publicly, you're not knocking on doors of illegal aliens or trying to repay them.
00:24:03.000 If they're paid for by me, if the government agents are paid for by me, I get to know what they're doing.
00:24:07.000 And that's why I get to FOIA their information, another thing that this administration is hiding.
00:24:11.000 I get to know what their business dealings are.
00:24:13.000 Like, yes, their government, their corporate social work.
00:24:14.000 We pay for the witness protection.
00:24:16.000 Program.
00:24:16.000 Should we abolish that?
00:24:17.000 No more witness protection program?
00:24:18.000 No.
00:24:19.000 I mean, look, obviously, that there are exceptions.
00:24:20.000 That's different than having a whole campaign where people don't show their faces.
00:24:24.000 No ICE agents are showing their faces.
00:24:25.000 I think that's bad.
00:24:26.000 I also think that we are detaining not just visa overstayers.
00:24:29.000 We have people in a detention center right now that were legal green card holders.
00:24:34.000 We stripped their visa.
00:24:36.000 There's a young man in Dilly Detention Center right now in Texas.
00:24:38.000 His grandma was, I guess, one of the Iranian hostage takers.
00:24:43.000 He was here legally.
00:24:44.000 He did everything right.
00:24:45.000 He was a green card holder.
00:24:46.000 Rubio stripped his green card and he's been in there for 200 days.
00:24:50.000 Like, we are detaining people indefinitely without due process in this country.
00:24:55.000 So, I think the way that they've handled the interior enforcement of immigration has been abhorrent and against the American tradition.
00:25:03.000 And I think that you couldn't secure the border without doing that.
00:25:06.000 Was it against American tradition for us to have a de facto open border, for us to accept obvious lies from people seeking asylum?
00:25:15.000 Was it part of the American tradition to just essentially ignore a huge number of our laws? 0.52
00:25:21.000 Isn't it ignoring America's laws to have sanctuary cities and just.
00:25:25.000 To willy nilly basically say you're allowed to break the law to come here?
00:25:29.000 I feel like that is a far greater violation of our traditions.
00:25:34.000 Well, I don't know.
00:25:34.000 I think the agents of the state murdering American citizens in the streets is a bigger affront and taking green card holders and shackling them.
00:25:41.000 Are you talking about Alex Pretty and Renee Good?
00:25:43.000 Is that what you're referring to?
00:25:44.000 Okay.
00:25:45.000 Yes.
00:25:45.000 I mean, in both of those instances, I mean, listen, here's what's going to happen.
00:25:49.000 We quibble about did the agents perform their duties exactly right?
00:25:53.000 But in both of those instances, there was obstructionism happening.
00:25:57.000 Willful obstructionism.
00:25:58.000 They were trained.
00:25:59.000 They were part of an activist network.
00:26:00.000 I'm not quibbling.
00:26:01.000 So my point is, if you, if I listen, I don't want anybody to die.
00:26:07.000 I don't want anybody to die. 0.99
00:26:08.000 And if you don't want, if you don't want to put your lives on the line and go obstruct law enforcement when they're carrying out lawful actions to do exactly what we voted for, which is to get illegals out of this country, then you're putting your life on the line when you do that. 0.99
00:26:24.000 Yeah. 0.98
00:26:24.000 You're putting your life on the line. 0.98
00:26:25.000 And by the way, all of the air cover that the media gives these people is part of the problem.
00:26:30.000 Because you're encouraging the, you're calling them a Gestapo, you're calling them Nazis, you're calling them all these, you're dehumanizing them.
00:26:37.000 And guess what happens? 0.81
00:26:37.000 A bunch of crazy people go and try and put their bodies on the line or ram them with their cars, and bad things are going to happen. 0.81
00:26:44.000 So putting that all on ice, putting that all on federal law enforcement. 0.86
00:26:48.000 Nobody wanted Renee Good to die more than the left.
00:26:50.000 I think that's very obvious. 0.92
00:26:52.000 That is insane.
00:26:52.000 That is an insane thing to say.
00:26:54.000 No, that is not an insane thing to say.
00:26:56.000 They directly encourage these people with their de arrest tactics.
00:26:59.000 They want them to get right in the face of police.
00:27:03.000 Because they know that will create the friction that can cause a scandal where there's going to be a mistaken shooting, a mistaken someone tries to get like people are rooting for that.
00:27:12.000 It's horrible.
00:27:12.000 100% they are.
00:27:13.000 They 100% are, and they were enthusiastic when it happened.
00:27:16.000 Just like they were enthusiastic.
00:27:18.000 That is 100% the case.
00:27:20.000 I think you're projecting a lot of evil things into people's brains that aren't true.
00:27:23.000 Projecting. 0.98
00:27:24.000 You think I want them to get shot?
00:27:26.000 I don't want people to get shot. 1.00
00:27:28.000 I don't want people to get shot by illegals who let it go. 1.00
00:27:30.000 You guys think they're fine with the fact that they got shot? 1.00
00:27:32.000 What?
00:27:33.000 You seem perfectly fine with the fact that they got murdered.
00:27:35.000 I am not fine with the fact that they got shot.
00:27:37.000 But what I am saying is they are inevitably causing such things.
00:27:42.000 They are inevitably going to cause such things when you encourage people not to protest ICE.
00:27:47.000 You want to protest ICE, that's fine.
00:27:49.000 What they do is they actively get in the face of ICE.
00:27:53.000 They actively follow and harass ICE agents.
00:27:56.000 They actively try to block the road for ICE agents.
00:28:00.000 They are trying to hinder law enforcement efforts.
00:28:02.000 And when you hinder law enforcement efforts, when they are trying to enforce the law, you are injecting unnecessary friction.
00:28:10.000 Police, they are scared.
00:28:11.000 They're worried that people will pull guns on them, worried that they'll use violence on them, which is how other ICE shootings have happened.
00:28:17.000 And they fear these things, that creates friction where somebody can die.
00:28:21.000 I don't want people to die.
00:28:22.000 And the best way to not die is to not interrupt and harass and bother police doing their job.
00:28:27.000 Okay.
00:28:28.000 I mean, Alex, I just, we're not going to agree on this.
00:28:30.000 Alex Freddy was on the ground and he was shot in the back of the head by a person in a mask.
00:28:34.000 So that's just what happened.
00:28:35.000 We're going to have to see what happened.
00:28:36.000 So you think that officer just said, I want to execute this guy and domed him?
00:28:38.000 I don't know what's in his head.
00:28:39.000 I'm just telling you what's happened.
00:28:41.000 I don't know what was in his head.
00:28:42.000 So, Tim, how about this?
00:28:43.000 Will you acknowledge that there are actual activist networks that train people how to obstruct dice?
00:28:49.000 There are these stalker groups that go out and they locate ice trucks or vehicles in their community.
00:28:57.000 They stock them.
00:28:58.000 There's been rammings.
00:29:00.000 There has been, like I said, doxing.
00:29:03.000 So these people are under threat.
00:29:04.000 To Blake's point, they are feeling very under threat. 0.71
00:29:07.000 Man, the people that are under threat, I'm sorry, the people under threat, we took legal asylee holders based on their tattoos and we sent them to a foreign gulag with no.
00:29:19.000 Due process for unlimited detention. 0.96
00:29:22.000 That is what we did.
00:29:23.000 We took a gay hairdresser, a guy that was a volunteer, and an autism awareness fundraiser because they were here fleeing communism.
00:29:30.000 They came to the land of milk and honey, and we went and we had masked guys go into their homes, take them, shackle them, send them to a foreign prison with no due process for unlimited detention.
00:29:40.000 Those people were at threat, and if there were people in the community that wanted to go out there and try to protect them from that threat, I'm okay with it.
00:29:47.000 That's where we are.
00:29:48.000 We're going to agree on what's happening at the border.
00:29:49.000 We totally disagree on what is happening with interior detention.
00:29:52.000 Here's the problem.
00:29:54.000 When you let in whatever the number is.
00:29:56.000 Were you okay with sending people to a foreign prison based on their tattoos without due process?
00:30:00.000 I don't know that story. 0.96
00:30:01.000 So I can't even compare.
00:30:02.000 You don't know the story.
00:30:03.000 I'm sorry.
00:30:03.000 Do you guys not read the news?
00:30:04.000 You know, Sikant, we had an El Salvador foreign prison.
00:30:07.000 There's a 60 minute story about it.
00:30:09.000 We were sending people back to their home countries. 0.91
00:30:11.000 Yeah.
00:30:11.000 The biggest problem is.
00:30:12.000 No, we were sending them to El Salvador to a foreign gulag based on that. 0.60
00:30:15.000 That's a cool thing. 1.00
00:30:16.000 To us sending people back to their home countries is that their home countries get in the way of it happening.
00:30:20.000 And you know what?
00:30:21.000 If their home countries are not going to accept that.
00:30:23.000 You're fine.
00:30:25.000 We should take a guy that did nothing. 0.98
00:30:26.000 They're targeting people based on their tattoos and sending them to foreign prisons.
00:30:30.000 So, if you're targeting based on their tattoos, are they MS-13 tattoos?
00:30:34.000 No, they weren't.
00:30:35.000 Guys, watch the 60 Minutes report.
00:30:37.000 Watch the news.
00:30:39.000 The 60 Minutes report.
00:30:40.000 The one that missed that the guy claimed to be gay while having a wife and kids?
00:30:43.000 That 60 Minutes report?
00:30:44.000 No, no, no, no.
00:30:45.000 We're talking about the 60 Minutes report.
00:30:46.000 You were making fun of that on X.
00:30:47.000 I just checked. 0.59
00:30:48.000 You were saying they're calling 60 Minutes fake and gay, which apparently his literal report says he claims he's gay. 0.99
00:30:54.000 That's why he got asylum here.
00:30:56.000 Did it stop him from having a kid? 0.69
00:30:57.000 I thought it was weird the government tweeted out calling somebody faking gay.
00:31:00.000 I thought that's a weird thing for the government to do.
00:31:02.000 Okay, well, I think it's weird for our government to give asylum to people who claim they're gay and have heterosexual families.
00:31:09.000 I think that's weird.
00:31:10.000 I think that's a lot more offensive to me than them using the word gay in a tweet.
00:31:14.000 I think it's telling that you just really want to spend the time focused on this and you ignored all of the other failings of the Trump administration that I started with.
00:31:22.000 Well, I asked about borders and then you answered with other stuff.
00:31:26.000 I asked about the border.
00:31:27.000 I was just saying, but we've now been here 15 minutes. 0.92
00:31:29.000 Why don't we talk about the Iran war that he started as a war of choice and that has caused massive damage to our standing in the world and increased costs for people at home? 0.53
00:31:37.000 Why don't we talk about the corruption, the fact that his kids are getting hundreds of millions of dollars, like making the types of money that Hunter Biden could only dream of from like Kazakhstan and from the UAE and from crypto coins?
00:31:50.000 We could talk about it.
00:31:51.000 Why don't we?
00:31:51.000 There's a bunch of other issues we could be talking about.
00:31:54.000 Let's just wrap up this topic because I do think it's important. 1.00
00:31:58.000 I think ultimately, when you let in millions of people through the border that are illegals, that shouldn't be here, mass chaos, all of this, fixing that problem is very challenging. 0.98
00:32:12.000 And my problem with the left is that they tend to pick these story here or story here. 0.98
00:32:18.000 We're dealing with hundreds of thousands of these, okay?
00:32:21.000 You're not going to get everything precisely right.
00:32:23.000 And demanding 100% perfect, you know, pure as the driven snow, not summary of our laws.
00:32:32.000 This is messy business getting people out of your country.
00:32:35.000 But the problem started because ultimately the left wants open borders, they don't believe in sovereignty.
00:32:41.000 And that is my larger issue here.
00:32:43.000 So I think, listen, We can move on if you want, but that is ultimately the dynamic here.
00:32:49.000 We're fixing a problem that was started that was so massive and so, I think, diabolical and really damaging to the country that it's, listen, it's going in the right direction.
00:32:59.000 I think the people on our side are very happy with it.
00:33:02.000 All right.
00:33:02.000 So you want to go to the next topic?
00:33:04.000 The floor is yours.
00:33:05.000 Which one of your topics are you going to go to?
00:33:07.000 I guess we went through the list of Donald Trump betrayals, and I think that he basically ran, you know, we can agree that the border was one of the things, but the other Main issues that he was running on were making things more affordable for Americans, not getting us into stupid wars, not having folks who are going to be like, let's talk about affordability.
00:33:26.000 And draining the swamp. 0.76
00:33:27.000 And all of that has been a disaster.
00:33:29.000 All of that has been just an utter disaster.
00:33:31.000 You realize that under Joe Biden, the per capita earning went down $3,000 per family.
00:33:40.000 $3,000. 0.92
00:33:43.000 And after the Jobbik.
00:33:45.000 And it went up another like 900. 0.69
00:33:47.000 Before the Iran war started, granted, it.
00:33:49.000 But that is wages rising faster than inflation is the way you fix affordability.
00:33:53.000 Yeah, the economy was getting better at the end of the Joe Biden administration and was getting better at the beginning of the Trump administration.
00:33:58.000 So all I hear about solutions from the left is oh, we're going to make things more affordable.
00:34:04.000 Trump has made it not affordable.
00:34:05.000 What are the ideas to actually make things affordable? 1.00
00:34:07.000 Well, the main idea is stopping all the stupid stuff he did. 0.96
00:34:10.000 Because if Donald Trump had done nothing except for golfed and built the ballroom when he got in there and just hung out and tweeted, the interest rates would be way lower. 0.99
00:34:21.000 Costs would be lower for everybody and the economy are doing better.
00:34:23.000 He had two massive self inflicted wounds by creating an insane top down run tariff regime based on his personal whims and then starting a war of choice in Iran that nobody wanted that has no end in sight.
00:34:37.000 The result of those two decisions has been a massive increase in interest rates, a massive increase in gas prices, a massive increase in food prices for Americans. 0.98
00:34:46.000 So the first thing we could do is repeal the stupid tariffs and block his ability to do tariffs at whim. 0.90
00:34:53.000 Because the Congress should be in charge of taxation, as the Constitution says, and then we should stop the war in Iran. 0.98
00:35:00.000 And unfortunately, we'll end up in a worse situation than we were before he started it. 0.79
00:35:04.000 But at this point, they've made a horrible bed, and the only thing to do is to try to get a deal that would help open up the two straits, both in Hormuz and Balabab.
00:35:15.000 The Democrats could do nothing else except those two things, and that would be a huge help to affordability.
00:35:20.000 I think there are other things they could do as well.
00:35:22.000 I'm a little.
00:35:23.000 You said he ran on this promise of no wars.
00:35:26.000 We actually looked at.
00:35:27.000 Trump's list of 20 promises that he ran on in 2020.
00:35:31.000 And actually, no wars is not one of them.
00:35:32.000 He does say he's going to restore peace in the Middle East and in Europe.
00:35:38.000 And we were frank.
00:35:39.000 We were grading each promise.
00:35:40.000 And we said, this was not a kept promise.
00:35:43.000 Yet, nonetheless, no new wars is not a promise that we're making.
00:35:47.000 That's a big major miss.
00:35:48.000 What I would add is, we looked at all of the other promises.
00:35:52.000 And I think if you were to compare them to a list of Joe Biden promises or George W. Bush promises or frankly, even Trump promises in his first term, I think, again, this is an aggressive promise keeping administration.
00:36:04.000 Another one that I think a lot of people are very happy about.
00:36:07.000 He made a promise no other prior Republican would make, or at least not keep if they made it, which is we're going to roll back DEI, CRT.
00:36:14.000 We're going to stop discriminating against Americans based on their skin color.
00:36:20.000 You were complaining that it was discriminatory, we're arresting people based on tattoos, but it was the norm for decades in this country for us to allow, like Andrew's children, any children I would have, my sisters who have children, that they can be discriminated against based on their skin color.
00:36:36.000 And I just think you're mad about Donald Trump on the swamp.
00:36:40.000 The whole idea of all of this was that it would accrue to the benefit of the American people and that Americans' lives would be better.
00:36:46.000 Americans' lives are worse because interest rates are skyrocketing, gas and oil prices are up.
00:36:50.000 And meanwhile, him and his family are getting richer and richer. 1.00
00:36:54.000 And he started a stupid war that's going to have massive consequences for decades to come. 1.00
00:36:58.000 My life is better because the government doesn't say I'm a second class citizen based on my skin color. 1.00
00:37:03.000 I think that matters a lot.
00:37:05.000 I think that matters a great deal.
00:37:07.000 And I think you're being hugely dismissive.
00:37:10.000 Of something that tens of millions of people were victimized by.
00:37:14.000 There's not like a bunch of white guys that are doing better now than they were before.
00:37:17.000 They're doing worse.
00:37:18.000 Manufacturing jobs are down.
00:37:20.000 Costs are up.
00:37:21.000 You guys haven't grappled with the fact that this whole idea was that Trump was going to be an attack on the deep state, an attack on the socialist left that's making everybody's lives worse.
00:37:33.000 And the reality is, he's running as a kind of tin pot socialist dictator with a state run economy.
00:37:40.000 Where he gets to bully companies and help out his friends and help out the oligarchs.
00:37:45.000 He has the aesthetics of a socialist.
00:37:47.000 We have like dear leader pictures all over Washington, D.C. He's now bribing voters like he's a socialist.
00:37:54.000 Like he's running as like a right wing nationalist socialist, and nobody's lives are better.
00:38:00.000 Everybody's costs are more.
00:38:02.000 Let's go.
00:38:03.000 Let's go.
00:38:03.000 You guys don't have a clear message for how to fix that, how to make things better for people.
00:38:08.000 He has the aesthetics of a socialist you're complaining about.
00:38:12.000 You're in support of the side that has actual socialists who will do socialism, who will do rent control, who will say, let's destroy Tesla because it's bad.
00:38:21.000 You guys are doing socialism right now.
00:38:23.000 This is the most socialist administration we've had since FDR.
00:38:26.000 Donald Trump has a state run economy.
00:38:28.000 He's taken stakes in businesses.
00:38:29.000 He's controlling the means of production in Venezuela and stealing their resources and bringing it to us.
00:38:35.000 He's offering voters a $5,000 bribe.
00:38:39.000 He's friends with all of the socialist dictators all over the world.
00:38:42.000 The only part of socialism that Donald Trump doesn't like is.
00:38:45.000 Socialist health care, so people can have access to free health care.
00:38:49.000 That's the only part of socialism Donald Trump doesn't like.
00:38:51.000 He's doing everything else, but he's running a right wing, soft authoritarian, nationalist socialist administration that's making people's lives worse.
00:39:00.000 That's what this administration is.
00:39:02.000 Let me address some of the things you talked about with the wars, because that's where this started.
00:39:06.000 The Ukraine war, actually, people now know this, is the price of diesel, for example.
00:39:12.000 That is a direct result of what's happening in Ukraine, right?
00:39:15.000 Because Ukraine's going up. 0.99
00:39:16.000 They're droning the Russian. 0.88
00:39:18.000 Refineries, yeah, that's what I'm saying. 1.00
00:39:19.000 Look at the chart.
00:39:20.000 The diesel price started going up right when we started the Iran war.
00:39:23.000 The diesel price started going up.
00:39:24.000 So, which party likes to shut down refineries?
00:39:27.000 Well, look, here's the thing, Andrew.
00:39:29.000 Like, that would have been a really compelling argument if Trump had done what he had promised, like you guys said, and came in and said, hey, what we're going to do is liquid gold.
00:39:37.000 We're going to do more production here.
00:39:39.000 And we're not going to get involved in the world oil.
00:39:41.000 Hold on, instead, he created an energy shock.
00:39:44.000 Answer that question.
00:39:45.000 Who wants to shut down refineries in the U.S.?
00:39:47.000 Well, I mean, I think there's some Democrats in some states that do, other Democrats that don't.
00:39:52.000 It's a mix in the Democratic Party.
00:39:53.000 But what we've seen now is from the last two Republican administrations.
00:39:57.000 Is they've created oil shocks, global oil shocks that have increased everybody's gas.
00:40:01.000 So it's like, great, build refineries, but who cares?
00:40:04.000 Democrats want to shut down refineries?
00:40:06.000 Well, not all Democrats want to shut down refineries.
00:40:08.000 What states ban fracking?
00:40:09.000 What states actually wage war on fossil fuels?
00:40:13.000 It's a mix.
00:40:14.000 I mean, the Democrats have a lot of pro. 0.76
00:40:16.000 It's really rich for the pro-Russian people.
00:40:17.000 But just in the Senate candidates, James Tallarico, Mary Peltola, Roy Cooper, these are the Senate candidates.
00:40:23.000 None of them are trying to shut down refineries.
00:40:25.000 They all want to shut down refineries. 0.93
00:40:26.000 But hold on, you know that's crap because we've, like, Do you think any Democrat is going to derail a Democratic administration if they attack fossil fuels? 0.78
00:40:36.000 During the Biden administration, we were producing more oil and natural gas than we ever had in the history of the country. 0.96
00:40:42.000 What are you guys talking about?
00:40:44.000 Gas prices were coming down.
00:40:45.000 Gas prices were going to be as low as they'd been when we did the handoff to Donald Trump in ages because we were producing oil and natural gas here. 0.99
00:40:52.000 And then Donald Trump created a stupid war of choice and started an energy strike. 0.95
00:40:57.000 Didn't Joe Biden deliberately drain the strategic petroleum reserve so he could get a 10 second? 0.98
00:41:02.000 You know, mitigation of Trump's doing that too going into the midterms, but on top of that, the same thing, but on top of that, I recall in 2020, Trump wanted to fill the strategic petroleum reserve while oil was free due to a freak historical circumstance.
00:41:16.000 Oil was literally basically zero dollars due to the shock of covet, guys, and it was blocked by Democrats because they didn't want a bailout of big oil.
00:41:24.000 Congrats, man, Trump did something smart in 2020, go to the gas station.
00:41:29.000 I'm not, I'm not nitpicking, go to the gas station.
00:41:32.000 Dude, go to the gas station.
00:41:34.000 I'm not going to do that.
00:41:35.000 They're back to pre war levels.
00:41:36.000 They're actually above pre war levels.
00:41:38.000 Those ships are going to take a little while to get into port and then get refined.
00:41:41.000 The issue is the insurance on those ships is going to be massive forever.
00:41:45.000 Guys, this is not a nitpick.
00:41:46.000 He started.
00:41:47.000 Why are you beginning to fuss over Iran?
00:41:49.000 This is a bigger question.
00:41:50.000 We don't know. 1.00
00:41:51.000 Iran is. 1.00
00:41:52.000 That's the point of that. 0.98
00:41:53.000 Gas prices went up because of the Iran war.
00:41:56.000 I didn't like the Iran war.
00:41:57.000 I don't like the Iran war. 0.83
00:41:59.000 It's still going on.
00:41:59.000 He's going to escalate it after the midterms.
00:42:01.000 A shock created by a conflict and the systematic hatred of fossil fuels.
00:42:07.000 And of oil as an industry, as a hydrocarbon that exists on the left.
00:42:14.000 And it's not, I just find it jarring to acknowledge that.
00:42:18.000 It's not just a shock that like lasted two weeks and then it went back down.
00:42:21.000 It's been going on all year now.
00:42:23.000 He says it's going to escalate the war after the midterms.
00:42:25.000 Regular people are like really suffering right now by the price.
00:42:30.000 It wasn't just some random energy shock that happened. 1.00
00:42:32.000 He made a stupid decision and now he's doubling down on it and tripling down on it. 1.00
00:42:36.000 Systematic war against fossil fuels. 1.00
00:42:39.000 The prices in 2014 are going to be the ones to think.
00:42:42.000 They're going to fix the oil problem or the energy prices problem is just ridiculous.
00:42:46.000 And we both know that.
00:42:47.000 They want wind farms, they want solar fields, they want everything sustainable.
00:42:51.000 They don't want solar.
00:42:52.000 By the way, the Trump administration has done a great job of permitting, easing up on permitting requests, opening up new energy sources.
00:42:59.000 So the two parties are light years apart on this issue.
00:43:03.000 Yeah, they are.
00:43:04.000 Because the Republican Party is the only one that has twice caused massive energy shocks that has created a huge problem for people.
00:43:10.000 This happens every time.
00:43:11.000 Well, and the Democrat Party caused 9% inflation.
00:43:14.000 Right, which is actually why people feel the affordability issue.
00:43:17.000 I mean, and now the inflation's going back up, and interest rates are now.
00:43:20.000 By the way, we haven't even talked about it.
00:43:22.000 I get to sound like a Republican when we talk about interest rates.
00:43:24.000 We haven't even talked about interest rates anymore.
00:43:26.000 They're back at the highest they've been in decades because, in addition to all the stuff we've been talking about, the other socialist thing Donald Trump likes to do is run up massive deficits.
00:43:34.000 Like we're running the biggest deficit we've run in forever.
00:43:38.000 Interest rates are high because we have not controlled our government spending.
00:43:41.000 And we also have huge risks that he's instituted, that he's added to the economic system because of the tariffs.
00:43:46.000 We have record revenues.
00:43:47.000 And yeah, we need to cut.
00:43:48.000 I'm a huge balanced budget hawk.
00:43:49.000 I am.
00:43:50.000 So getting any of those done in Washington, you think the Democrats are going to let us?
00:43:54.000 Balanced budget, or do you think they want a Medicare for all, which is going to cost $70 trillion over the next 10 years?
00:44:00.000 Come on, like I think that there's probably a way to do health care that lower the cost of health care.
00:44:03.000 If Donald Trump had cut, if he had actually cut anything to balance the budget, I think you'd be attacking him over it on this show.
00:44:08.000 As a matter of fact, you are the health care uh cuts of those uh the COVID uh uh subsidies that were supposed to expire.
00:44:16.000 Well, they cut that. 0.99
00:44:19.000 Well, if he did stupid cuts, like for example, that he managed to do stupid, those were those were COVID. 0.99
00:44:26.000 Subsidies that were supposed to expire. 1.00
00:44:27.000 They let them expire, and now it's an attack line from the law.
00:44:30.000 Well, I mean, that's another betrayal of regulating that mostly hurt MAGA voters.
00:44:33.000 But I was talking about the Doge cuts. 0.99
00:44:35.000 Like the Doge program was honestly one of the stupidest things I've ever seen in my life.
00:44:39.000 So you ended up cutting massive parts of the government, some people that maybe probably should have been fired, other people that were doing very important things, research, you know, things that are services for Americans. 0.96
00:44:52.000 And he did it in such a haphazard way that we end up.
00:44:56.000 Actually, spending more because a lot of those people are still getting paid.
00:44:59.000 They sued the government because they did it in a legal manner.
00:45:03.000 We have the lowest federal employment we've had since 1966.
00:45:07.000 I think we're still paying.
00:45:10.000 Okay, eventually we'll stop.
00:45:12.000 You have to do something, right?
00:45:13.000 So, was the option just to leave the permanent bureaucracy permanently there?
00:45:17.000 It's the same thing we got on immigration, which is I feel like you're doing nothing because the act of doing something carries with the burden that someone might mess something up.
00:45:28.000 Yeah, did we justify people incorrectly?
00:45:30.000 Yeah, okay.
00:45:30.000 Guess what?
00:45:31.000 I think it's a bigger mistake.
00:45:32.000 Never firing anybody ever.
00:45:34.000 And I feel like that's something you would prefer to have because you would rather.
00:45:37.000 No, no, that's right.
00:45:39.000 No, here's something you've pegged me on it.
00:45:40.000 We can have another agreement just like we had at the top.
00:45:43.000 This administration doing nothing would have been a massive improvement.
00:45:47.000 Massive improvement. 0.98
00:45:49.000 And any minor progress that they've had across a few issues has been totally swamped by the idiocy of the tariffs, of the Iran war, of the recklessness of Doge, of killing USAID. 0.98
00:46:02.000 I love tariffs. 0.97
00:46:03.000 Getting rid of USAID was a huge, huge win.
00:46:06.000 And tariffs, we need to onshore manufacturing.
00:46:09.000 We need to make our own vitamin C.
00:46:10.000 We need to make our own military equipment. 1.00
00:46:12.000 You have to bring manufacturing back to the country.
00:46:15.000 You have to onshore things.
00:46:16.000 And by the way, tariffs have been used to get peace in many parts of the country.
00:46:21.000 It's been used, by the way, reciprocal tariffs.
00:46:24.000 The EU was tariffing the hell out of us. 0.97
00:46:26.000 We were suckers.
00:46:28.000 There's one part of the tariff thing I'd love to get your answer to, Andrew, because it's the craziest thing. 0.61
00:46:32.000 We have to go, Tim.
00:46:33.000 I actually have to.
00:46:34.000 I have to wrap it up, but go ahead.
00:46:36.000 I will say this is how far it raced by.
00:46:38.000 Sorry.
00:46:39.000 Anyway, I was just going to say the idea that he put illegal tariffs in, then the Supreme Court said they were illegal, and then he bullied companies to not getting their rebates back.
00:46:48.000 I mean, like, if a Democrat had done that, if Obama had put an illegal tax in and then bullied corporations and said, sorry, I'm not going to give you your money back that I illegally stole from you, your guy's hair would be on fire.
00:46:57.000 It's just another example of socialist right wing socialism.
00:47:02.000 They shouldn't have backdated and forced any of that to be paid back.
00:47:05.000 It should have been forward looking.
00:47:06.000 It was actually a I understand.
00:47:08.000 Fix it. 0.82
00:47:09.000 It's better for the administration to do nothing.
00:47:12.000 I'll basically ignore whatever personal conduct from Trump because everyone's going to have issues with large parts of it.
00:47:17.000 I focus on and fixate on.
00:47:19.000 What I focus on and fixate on is changes that happened under this administration that would have never happened under any other Democrat, certainly would have never happened under Republicans like the one that you ran under, which is get rid of systemic racial discrimination in the U.S., actually secure the border, actually deport people.
00:47:37.000 That stuff that happened under this administration, no one else would do.
00:47:40.000 It's not that bad.
00:47:40.000 I think they are transcendent accomplishments.
00:47:43.000 Thank you, Blake.
00:47:44.000 Let's do it again at Amfest.
00:47:45.000 I was going to say, this has been great.
00:47:47.000 Honestly, listen, you're a good sport.
00:47:50.000 Thank you for having the debate.
00:47:52.000 I'd love to do it again sometime soon.
00:47:54.000 So please, please consider doing that.
00:47:56.000 Thank you very much.
00:47:56.000 Appreciate the invite.
00:47:57.000 Yeah, man.
00:47:58.000 All right.
00:47:59.000 Be well.
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00:49:01.000 Yeah, the emails are pouring in after our little debate with Tim Miller.
00:49:05.000 Let me explain.
00:49:07.000 You know, Tim is a big voice on the left, and it's important that we have those debates and those discussions.
00:49:15.000 And it's important for you to understand what the left actually believes, what they think, how they process information, their attack lines.
00:49:22.000 And you saw how flimsy some of it is.
00:49:24.000 We're supposed to believe that the left is going to be the answer.
00:49:27.000 For oil prices?
00:49:28.000 We're supposed to believe that the left is going to be the answer for war when they're the ones that funded and gave blank checks to Ukraine?
00:49:34.000 We're supposed to believe that they are going to be the low price, balanced budget party?
00:49:40.000 Please.
00:49:41.000 I just find it incredibly unbelievable.
00:49:44.000 Yeah, please clap.
00:49:44.000 Please clap.
00:49:45.000 You guys might know what that's called, too.
00:49:46.000 I just find it incredible.
00:49:48.000 I think there's a lot of people who they find Trump personally detestable.
00:49:52.000 He's a very strong man.
00:49:54.000 He engenders passion.
00:49:55.000 He engenders a lot of passion.
00:49:56.000 And I just think a lot of people.
00:49:58.000 They let it like ruin their common sense because to say that this administration is like worse than a Joe Biden administration or a Harris administration would be is lunacy to me.
00:50:09.000 It is a lunacy.
00:50:11.000 Yeah.
00:50:11.000 And I just feel it fails to confront the basic reality.
00:50:14.000 He's saying it's the most socialist thing ever. 0.99
00:50:16.000 Guys, they're all Democrats are coming out saying we will arrest Elon Musk if we win because he's like a chud that we politically dislike. 0.98
00:50:23.000 We're actually embracing the socialists in this country, DSA. 1.00
00:50:27.000 They were a big, big tent movement.
00:50:28.000 Okay.
00:50:29.000 Without further ado, we got to bring in.
00:50:30.000 Bill Isale, he is the first assistant U.S. attorney for the Central District of California.
00:50:37.000 And this guy has been crushing it.
00:50:39.000 And I remember when he was in the California legislature, he was crushing it there.
00:50:44.000 Bill, welcome back.
00:50:46.000 I don't know what the salutation is, first assistant U.S. attorney, but you have been like a dog with a bone on this story out of California, these 20,000 ballots.
00:50:57.000 And we got to get the update here because I love it.
00:51:00.000 You guys are not letting this go.
00:51:02.000 Please fill our audience in.
00:51:03.000 What?
00:51:04.000 What are these 20,000 ballots?
00:51:05.000 How did they get identified?
00:51:07.000 What has California's reaction been to these ballots that are suspected illegals? 0.93
00:51:13.000 Sure.
00:51:13.000 First off, you can call me whatever you want as long as I'm running this office.
00:51:17.000 I don't really care what the title is.
00:51:18.000 So we will play that game.
00:51:20.000 But this is a really, really important case.
00:51:24.000 This is probably one of the first cases the administration has brought where we brought the receipts.
00:51:29.000 You know, a lot of times we have a lot of inclinations, we have a lot of suspicions.
00:51:34.000 This time we brought the evidence.
00:51:36.000 And what California did is basically obstruct every attempt we did to try to clean up their voter rolls.
00:51:42.000 They would not share the voter rolls, they won't work with us.
00:51:44.000 So we did it without them.
00:51:46.000 We obtained, you can purchase a redacted version of the voter rolls that has people's names and birthdays and addresses.
00:51:53.000 That's how everyone gets political mail in California.
00:51:56.000 It's available for purchase.
00:51:57.000 And so we use that, and then we have to do a lot of work to figure out what the socials are for those people on there.
00:52:04.000 We did a lot of additional research to try to get more identifying information for the people on the voter rolls.
00:52:10.000 And then we took that and gave it over to USCIS, which is the government agency that holds all the immigration records, the A files.
00:52:19.000 And they went and they connected a minimum so far at 20,000 alien files to active registered voters in California.
00:52:28.000 And that's the list we delivered to California, I think about a week or two.
00:52:32.000 Things are moving so fast.
00:52:33.000 So we gave that list to California two weeks ago. 0.99
00:52:35.000 We said, tell us in 48 hours if you intend to work with us to segregate these ballots so they don't get counted and confirm the citizenship status of these alleged non citizens. 0.99
00:52:47.000 And they basically told us to pound sand. 0.98
00:52:49.000 And we've been in a race since then to get an emergency court order.
00:52:53.000 Ordering California to separate these ballots because what people don't understand is even though the election's a week away, California's already started processing the ballots.
00:53:01.000 All the ballots being returned by mail, they're opening the envelopes, they're taking out the ballots, they're getting them ready to put through the tabulators on election night.
00:53:10.000 Once the ballot is separated from the envelope, it can never be connected.
00:53:14.000 It's a secret ballot, there's no identifying markers.
00:53:16.000 So effectively, the damage is done once the envelope's opened.
00:53:20.000 LA County alone's already processed over 500,000 ballots for the November election.
00:53:26.000 And so that's why this is an emergency.
00:53:28.000 So we asked the judge for a TRO last week.
00:53:31.000 He didn't give us one.
00:53:33.000 We went up on appeal on an emergency basis.
00:53:36.000 It was two to one where the judges kicked it back down.
00:53:39.000 Judge Bumite, if you don't know Judge Bumite, he's a rock star.
00:53:42.000 He's a Trump appointee, a Ninth Circuit judge, and he wrote a killer dissent, which is basically going to be the roadmap for us to basically take this back up on appeal very quickly.
00:53:52.000 We had a long hearing yesterday in district court where we laid out the evidence and the facts.
00:53:57.000 The judge said he will rule today.
00:53:58.000 As soon as we get that ruling, we're going to go right back up on appeal.
00:54:01.000 We need to have an emergency order. 0.97
00:54:03.000 We cannot let California commingle the ballots of non citizens with American citizens. 1.00
00:54:08.000 That's exactly right.
00:54:09.000 And so, this is what's crazy about this.
00:54:12.000 So, I want our audience to fully internalize what's happening in California.
00:54:16.000 The federal government goes to it and says, We have reason to believe these are non citizens voting.
00:54:21.000 They said, What can we do about it?
00:54:24.000 It's the honor system.
00:54:25.000 We take their word for it.
00:54:27.000 What could we do?
00:54:28.000 And so, you and the federal government are saying, we gave you all the proof.
00:54:33.000 Can you just keep these ballots on the side so you don't commingle them with everything else?
00:54:38.000 And what's interesting is, and this is new from Matt Finn over at Fox this morning says, LA County says a sample of Trump admins' 200 names of suspected non citizen voters showed that 38.9% attested to being born in the U.S. Again, because it's all in the honor system.
00:54:54.000 So they said they're born in the U.S.
00:54:56.000 But in a new sworn statement under penalty of perjury, a DHS official says its investigation shows.
00:55:03.000 None of LA County's 200 names were born in the US.
00:55:06.000 Okay, so that basically means about 40% of them were lying.
00:55:10.000 And California just takes it on the honor system.
00:55:13.000 After a thorough review of the immigration records of all the individuals in the county sample list, it was determined that none of the individuals USCIS matched to the county sample list were born in the United States, according to USCIS records.
00:55:25.000 Explain what a bombshell that is, because that's crazy what we're doing.
00:55:31.000 Also, why we need the Save America Act.
00:55:33.000 Yes, of course.
00:55:34.000 So, this is one of the first cases being tested in court.
00:55:38.000 So, the media loves to fixate on these letters going back and forth.
00:55:42.000 They said Nevada, the government said it was 100, like 200 people were non citizens.
00:55:46.000 Nevada came back and said they're all citizens.
00:55:49.000 And the media has taken that as gospel.
00:55:51.000 Neither California nor Nevada has an independent way to verify anyone's citizenship.
00:55:56.000 They go based off what the person wrote on their voter registration application form.
00:56:00.000 So they're taking that as truth and fact.
00:56:03.000 So they did a sample of 200.
00:56:05.000 We asked for who they sampled.
00:56:07.000 They finally gave it to us.
00:56:08.000 We had USCIS rerun all of them again. 0.99
00:56:11.000 100% were not born in the United States, all of them.
00:56:15.000 None of them were born in the US. 1.00
00:56:16.000 They're all foreign born. 1.00
00:56:17.000 And so it just shows people are lying to register to vote. 1.00
00:56:23.000 The attestations are not sufficient. 0.97
00:56:25.000 And what you said is correct. 0.99
00:56:26.000 Even though Congress hasn't required California to verify citizenship to add someone to the voter rolls, what they cannot do is ignore credible evidence that someone is not a qualified voter once they have it.
00:56:38.000 And that's why we delivered the list of 20,000 to every county election official in the state of California to put them all on notice on exactly who on their voter rolls is not a citizen.
00:56:49.000 And to make sure that they think twice about tabulating those ballots.
00:56:53.000 Yeah.
00:56:53.000 Well, what happens if they end up tabulating them?
00:56:57.000 What's the recourse?
00:56:59.000 There was a letter sent by the deputy attorney general.
00:57:02.000 I mean, we're not going to preview or speculate on what could happen, but he did admonish them that it is a federal crime for non citizens to vote.
00:57:09.000 And it's also a federal crime to aid and abet the commission of that crime.
00:57:13.000 So if you know someone's not a citizen and you continue to process their ballot, then you could be held criminally liable as well.
00:57:19.000 Well, you guys have given them everything they need to know that there's at least suspicion around these ballots.
00:57:27.000 And if they fail to act to the layperson out here, which I count myself, I'm not a lawyer.
00:57:33.000 I don't play one on TV, even like Blake here.
00:57:36.000 I would just say that that seems like it should be against the law.
00:57:40.000 That you have been given credible information by a federal government authority that these ballots could be suspect or could be illegal.
00:57:48.000 Then the onus then goes on you that you need to take that advice and then.
00:57:53.000 Do the proper due diligence.
00:57:55.000 The fact that they are so hardened on this point is so infuriating.
00:57:59.000 And all of you voters out there should be so ticked off because it's a dilution of your ballot.
00:58:05.000 It's a dilution of your voice when we let this happen.
00:58:08.000 In California, oh, we just take their word.
00:58:10.000 It's an honor system, guys.
00:58:12.000 It's all fine.
00:58:15.000 You should be frustrated because I'm frustrated.
00:58:17.000 And hopefully you join me in that.
00:58:18.000 Thank you so much for your work, Bill Asale, the first assistant U.S. attorney from the Central Coast.
00:58:22.000 I know you got a jam.
00:58:25.000 You got a busy day ahead of yourself.
00:58:26.000 Thank you, sir.
00:58:27.000 God bless you.
00:58:27.000 Thanks for having me.
00:58:28.000 Blake, we've got emails.
00:58:30.000 Oh, we were getting infinity emails throughout that.
00:58:33.000 Some people just wondering why we did the segment.
00:58:36.000 I think it was pretty enjoyable. 0.98
00:58:38.000 You've got to hold very firm, of course, because I think he came out very hard where he's saying, I think Trump is corrupt and a failure and liar and shouldn't have done anything. 0.96
00:58:46.000 And we've got to push back really hard on that. 0.97
00:58:49.000 And I hope we did to people's satisfaction.
00:58:51.000 But a few of these Vortex says, Tim was just so indoctrinated and wrong with his perception of Trump that it was alarming.
00:59:01.000 But Blake really stepped up to the plate.
00:59:02.000 Ah, I'll take that one.
00:59:03.000 Thank you.
00:59:04.000 Glenda said, I disagree with Trump on some things, but he is still the best person possible and deserved my vote.
00:59:12.000 I think that's a lot of people.
00:59:14.000 I mean, that's how I feel.
00:59:15.000 That's definitely how I feel.
00:59:16.000 You know, President Trump is the only guy that would have absolutely done any of the things that we listed as his successes the border, deportations, actually getting ICE funded, getting those no tax on tips, no tax on overtime, no tax on Social Security, locking in the 2017 tax cuts that Dems wanted to get rid of.
00:59:37.000 We were pushing for more cuts.
00:59:39.000 This is what's hilarious about our system.
00:59:42.000 We were pushing for even more cuts.
00:59:44.000 If you remember with the one big beautiful bill, the big problem that a lot of the base had was it didn't cut enough.
00:59:49.000 Well, it wasn't technically a spending bill, it wasn't the right type of thing to do huge spending cuts on.
00:59:53.000 Okay, back and forth, back and forth.
00:59:55.000 But the bill was absolutely more good than bad on every single metric.
00:59:59.000 And here's what's crazy the one cut we got, which was letting those COVID era subsidies for the ACA expire, that's what the Democrats are running on.
01:00:10.000 That's what they're running on.
01:00:13.000 So, every time you cut anything from the government, they're going to weaponize it and they're going to come after you.
01:00:17.000 USAID, oh, it's killing millions of people all around the globe, blah, blah, blah.
01:00:21.000 No, it's not.
01:00:22.000 It's not.
01:00:23.000 It's an unfalsifiable claim.
01:00:26.000 So, they get to say it and it's impossible to prove either way.
01:00:29.000 It's not true, though.
01:00:30.000 We know it's not true.
01:00:32.000 USAID was a rogue agency.
01:00:34.000 And by the way, the good parts of it got rolled into the State Department, and Marco Rubio is still giving out free food to poor people around the world.
01:00:40.000 Okay?
01:00:41.000 Whether we should or shouldn't.
01:00:42.000 Chrissy says, we watch you every day at lunch. 0.99
01:00:45.000 Whoever this freaking liberal is has ruined it. 0.94
01:00:47.000 Thank you very much for your attention to this matter. 0.98
01:00:52.000 I like, Vicky says, that's right.
01:00:55.000 Push back on that POS, most corrupt administration. 0.97
01:00:59.000 Seriously, he is a liberal nutshop. 0.98
01:01:01.000 Don't give him airtime.
01:01:05.000 Joanne says.
01:01:06.000 I disagree with that a little bit because I think it's important to have these debates.
01:01:09.000 I want this audience to be the most informed audience in the country.
01:01:14.000 I want you to know what they actually think, what their attack lines are.
01:01:18.000 You've got to understand.
01:01:19.000 He came out of Republican communications.
01:01:21.000 So his whole job was to spin a narrative.
01:01:23.000 Then he writes a book, Mea culpa.
01:01:26.000 I was part of this toxic culture and I was bad for the country.
01:01:29.000 And now he's doing the same thing just for the other side.
01:01:31.000 So you need to understand what he actually believes and what he thinks.
01:01:34.000 And you need to understand the arguments that the left is making.
01:01:37.000 So that sometimes can only happen through debate. 1.00
01:01:39.000 Joanne says Your guest is totally tedious and full of crap. 0.99
01:01:42.000 The ballroom isn't costing the taxpayer a dime. 1.00
01:01:44.000 Iran cannot nuke us now. 0.97
01:01:46.000 The tariffs are great. 1.00
01:01:47.000 We have seen what happens in the country when libtards are in charge and it is depressing. 1.00
01:01:52.000 Gas prices were higher. 1.00
01:01:53.000 Inflation was 9%.
01:01:55.000 We were mandated to buy freaking electric cars and no gas cars by 2030.
01:01:59.000 I think it was 2035 federal.
01:02:00.000 I can't remember.
01:02:02.000 They were burning down chicken ranches, grain processing plants, killing herds of cattle. 1.00
01:02:05.000 This guy is full of crap and a tainted liar. 1.00
01:02:09.000 Very aggressive, but I think that is what stands out to me. 1.00
01:02:13.000 I think a lot of people, like I said, people get driven a little bit bonkers by Trump.
01:02:18.000 He kind of reacts so strongly to what he's done because Trump is a thing doer president.
01:02:24.000 The best argument for Trump is just.
01:02:26.000 We'd settled into this rut of accepting endless decay. 0.62
01:02:30.000 It's like the Bukele thing where gangs ruled his country and just no one could stop it. 0.99
01:02:35.000 They just said, What are we supposed to do? 0.99
01:02:36.000 Arrest them?
01:02:37.000 We can't do that.
01:02:38.000 That would violate a norm.
01:02:39.000 And just everyone had to accept their country being the worst thing ever, permanently violent, permanently awful, when they could hit the fix everything button.
01:02:46.000 And Donald Trump, he has a lot of eccentricities.
01:02:49.000 He'll do stuff you disagree with, but he is the guy who will actually push the fix everything button.
01:02:54.000 He's the only one who will fix the border and not be cowed by.
01:02:58.000 Oh, while trying to deport people, we had an unfortunate incident.
01:03:02.000 We heard what he'd say.
01:03:03.000 Because one unfortunate incident happens, guess we got to go back to having open borders forever.
01:03:08.000 You can't have a country because I will get traumatized by a video I can see on X. President Trump won't do that.
01:03:14.000 President Trump is the ultimate man in the arena.
01:03:17.000 You can disagree with Iran. 0.99
01:03:18.000 I certainly have my qualms.
01:03:20.000 You can disagree with him liking to talk about the ballroom.
01:03:24.000 You can disagree with all those things, okay?
01:03:27.000 But he is the man in the arena that actually gets stuff done and dares greatly.
01:03:31.000 And if we didn't have him, The entire GOP, the Jeb Bush GOP, the George W. Bush GOP was leading us off a cliff.
01:03:42.000 We were in permanent purgatory as a party. 0.69
01:03:45.000 President Trump was the only guy that came along and actually pumped energy into this movement and called a spade a spade, namely on the border, namely on immigration, namely on stupid foreign wars, namely on the way that we were running our economy and getting ripped off by everybody around the world. 0.51
01:03:59.000 He's the only guy that had all of that energy. 0.97
01:04:03.000 And he had the force of will to put up and accept all the slings and arrows, all the lawfare, all the weaponization, the attempts to bankrupt him, the attempts to ruin him, the attempts to paint him as some sexual predator.
01:04:14.000 He was the only one that was able to do that.
01:04:16.000 And for that, he will have my ever loving and everlasting respect and admiration.
01:04:21.000 I disagree on many things, but he's the only one with the guts to do it.
01:04:26.000 He's the only one that I trust to actually see through really hard things.
01:04:29.000 Because when you have a country that has built up decades and decades and decades of bad decisions, bad spending, bad.
01:04:37.000 Management, bad governance.
01:04:38.000 It's going to take somebody with a lot of force of will to actually move things in the other direction.
01:04:43.000 And for the first time in my life and the first time in Blake's life, we actually have an administration that is fixing really entrenched, calcified problems within this government.
01:04:52.000 And now they want us to go back to the people that ruined it in the first place.
01:04:55.000 No, thank you.
01:04:56.000 I don't think that's where we're going to go.
01:05:00.000 Yeah, this whole icing, the Renee Good and the Alex Pretty thing.
01:05:06.000 Listen, nobody wanted them to die.
01:05:08.000 But if you think fixing this problem is going to be easy, and if you think that the Democrats are going to make it easy, no, they're the ones obstructing justice.
01:05:15.000 They're the ones putting their lives in a shoe.
01:05:17.000 They're the ones who train people to do things that will put you at risk from police because they know that is a side effect.
01:05:23.000 And then they act shocked and they're like, I 100% stand by what I said there.
01:05:27.000 100%.
01:05:27.000 Very ugly what they do.
01:05:31.000 I talk about jobs and industries on this show all the time, but I didn't expect to find an entire skills trade community on TikTok.
01:05:38.000 Plumbers, electrician, builders, and contractors sharing the work they do every day.
01:05:43.000 And it went way beyond tips and tricks.
01:05:45.000 People were sharing their craft, connecting with local contractors, and talking about how they were building their businesses and growing their teams.
01:05:52.000 It opened my eyes to how people in the trades are using TikTok to share their skills, make connections, and find new opportunities.
01:05:58.000 I remember thinking, this is exactly what we need more of people sharing what they know and creating opportunities for others.
01:06:04.000 And I never expected to find a community like this.
01:06:07.000 That's the thing about TikTok.
01:06:09.000 You start with something you know, and suddenly you're finding a whole new side of it that surprises you and leaves you wanting to know more.
01:06:15.000 Your next discovery is waiting for you on TikTok.
01:06:17.000 Learn more at TikTok.comslash discover more.
01:06:23.000 Man, the emails are still flooding, and I love it.
01:06:27.000 Safe to say, this audience didn't resonate with many of Tim's perspectives.
01:06:31.000 It's hilarious.
01:06:32.000 Could you imagine?
01:06:33.000 I'd be really worried if they were like, he had some good points.
01:06:36.000 I'd never really thought about that before.
01:06:37.000 I'd be pretty upset if they'd done that.
01:06:38.000 It's hilarious. 0.51
01:06:39.000 There's this troll online, left wing troll named Aaron Rupar. 0.93
01:06:42.000 Troll? 0.97
01:06:43.000 A guy who sits in his bedroom and cuts clips all day. 0.98
01:06:46.000 He's a trip.
01:06:47.000 And he's like, oh, they got destroyed.
01:06:48.000 It's hilarious.
01:06:49.000 It's like the whole clip, the clip farming and the narrative spin on the back end is hilarious.
01:06:56.000 No, Tim was a good sport, but like there is literally nothing he could say to half of what we brought up.
01:07:02.000 And he dodged every direct question.
01:07:04.000 All right.
01:07:05.000 Without further ado, I'm actually really excited about this story.
01:07:08.000 This is a professor of philosophy at Arizona State University, and you will not believe what is happening to this gentleman, Owen Anderson.
01:07:16.000 He is being, I think, safe to say, persecuted by Arizona State University because he's a Christian.
01:07:23.000 And they're basically saying that, that they're saying his.
01:07:26.000 Coursework is too Christian. 0.99
01:07:28.000 Welcome to the academy. 1.00
01:07:29.000 I don't know you'll ever get fired for having a course that's too godless. 1.00
01:07:32.000 Yeah, I'm pretty sure there's a lot of pagans, like sex pests, like weirdos. 0.99
01:07:36.000 That's all fine. 0.99
01:07:38.000 Owen Anderson, welcome to the show.
01:07:40.000 We're so grateful for your time.
01:07:42.000 Explain this crazy story because I think you need to say it out loud.
01:07:47.000 I don't think people will believe it if I say it candidly.
01:07:49.000 What is happening to you at ASU?
01:07:52.000 Yeah, and thanks for having me on.
01:07:53.000 It's great to talk with you both and good to see Blake again.
01:07:55.000 We were just out at ASU together for a Frank Turek event.
01:07:58.000 And you're 100% right, Andrew.
01:08:01.000 If you just read this, you think this was a satire or something from the Babylon Bee.
01:08:05.000 But I'm currently involved in a lawsuit against ASU.
01:08:09.000 It's at the Arizona Supreme Court over ASU's required DEI training.
01:08:14.000 And that's been going on for about two years.
01:08:16.000 We don't have the Supreme Court's decision yet.
01:08:18.000 But in the meantime, my annual review, we have to do annual reviews of our teaching and research every year.
01:08:24.000 I get my annual review back last May and I'm gained points.
01:08:28.000 Which also means I have merit pay taken away because my classes are considered too Christian.
01:08:34.000 And I asked for evidence.
01:08:35.000 What is the proof that you're talking about?
01:08:38.000 And I was given five quiz questions.
01:08:40.000 So this is out of like 100 questions, right?
01:08:42.000 So that's not even a good sample. 0.98
01:08:44.000 Five quiz questions and two negative student comments, which prove my classes are too Christian.
01:08:52.000 And I was just dumbfounded because the student comments, they were, one of them actually said, I like what Professor Anderson teaches, but I might hypothetically be insulted.
01:09:02.000 If I was a Hindu, which I don't even know what that means, but it's not even an actual offense to the student, it's a hypothetical offense.
01:09:11.000 And so I appealed this from my dean up to the highest level we can, the final level of appeal within ASU, ASU's provost office. 0.85
01:09:20.000 And last Monday, I got back their decision of holding what the dean said and saying, Yes, this is sufficient proof that you're too Christian. 0.83
01:09:28.000 And so on my Substack, I shared the questions. 0.89
01:09:31.000 Oh, go ahead.
01:09:32.000 Yeah, I'm just curious.
01:09:33.000 Is there somewhere.
01:09:35.000 I mean, you're a philosophy professor.
01:09:38.000 Christian philosophy is a rich academic tradition, religious philosophy.
01:09:44.000 Is there somewhere in the bylaws, is there somewhere in the statutes that said, thou shalt not be Christian in class?
01:09:51.000 Like, what are they even basic?
01:09:53.000 Like, it feels like an arbitrary critique of anybody.
01:09:56.000 Are they doing the same thing to some of these Hindu professors or Muslim professors? 0.55
01:09:59.000 Well, that's what I asked. 0.96
01:10:00.000 Or the atheists? 0.98
01:10:01.000 Yeah.
01:10:01.000 So I sent the provost pages and pages of evidence from my school at ASU where we've been told to decolonize our curriculum.
01:10:10.000 And the decolonization philosophy is a specific Marxist philosophy about the evil Christians and the evil West.
01:10:17.000 And I was sent material from the director of my school saying, This is what decolonization means.
01:10:22.000 And in the description, it said, You need to reduce the influence of white men.
01:10:27.000 And so they're pushing this material.
01:10:29.000 I sent that to my provost.
01:10:31.000 And the provost said, Yeah, that's not proof of any kind of bias because you didn't have to do it.
01:10:35.000 They just suggested you do it.
01:10:37.000 Well, now let's flip it.
01:10:38.000 Let's say I told my student, Yeah.
01:10:41.000 Yeah.
01:10:42.000 So they said you had to decolonize.
01:10:44.000 Decolonize your curriculum and that the negative impacts of, or like less influence to white men or something.
01:10:53.000 So that's not proof of bias.
01:10:55.000 That was my suggestion.
01:10:57.000 Yeah, that was my exact point to the provost, and the provost dismissed it.
01:11:01.000 But let's flip it.
01:11:01.000 Let's say I was a director and I said to all the professors, Hey, I want you to think about how to make your classes more Christian.
01:11:07.000 You don't have to, but you should consider doing that.
01:11:10.000 We all know they would say, Hold on, you can't do that.
01:11:14.000 That's a bias. 0.82
01:11:14.000 But it's perfectly fine if it's decolonization or LGBTQ ideology, anything like that. 0.82
01:11:21.000 And so this is a big problem for ASU because it seems like I'm being targeted.
01:11:26.000 Because of my other case against ASU.
01:11:28.000 And then on top of that, it simply is a violation of our bylaws, it's a violation of our college's rules about how to conduct annual reviews.
01:11:37.000 I mean, you have tenure, right, Professor?
01:11:40.000 Yeah, I'm tenured, but here's the thing this is step one to getting even a tenured professor removed because the five questions are so bad.
01:11:48.000 I'll share one of them.
01:11:49.000 For example, I asked true or false, and this is in a class called Philosophical Aspects of Death and Dying.
01:11:56.000 And I had a question.
01:11:57.000 I thought it was such a trivial question true or false?
01:12:00.000 Death should make us think about the meaning of life.
01:12:03.000 And that was one of the questions they said makes my class too Christian.
01:12:07.000 I mean, that's like a quote from Viktor Frankl, who was not a Christian at all.
01:12:11.000 And so the proof they gave was so bad.
01:12:14.000 Even if I take out these five questions for next year, when it comes to my annual review next spring, they'll say, Anderson, we told you you're too Christian.
01:12:22.000 Did you change that?
01:12:23.000 And I'll say, Yeah, I took those five questions out.
01:12:26.000 And they'll say, I know, but look, there are five other ones that we found that are also Christian. 1.00
01:12:30.000 Insubordination, you didn't listen, and so that's step two. 0.96
01:12:34.000 This year's step one, then that's step two to disciplining me and going to step three of actually removing me as a tenured professor.
01:12:41.000 I thought tenure was supposed to protect the freedom of professors like yourself to be able to express controversial ideas and to push the boundaries of different topics.
01:12:51.000 Isn't that the whole point?
01:12:54.000 But then you did it, you did it in too traditional of a way, which wasn't like pagan enough or wasn't you know licentious enough, it wasn't you know debaucherous enough.
01:13:04.000 And therefore, you're getting targeted for pushing virtue.
01:13:07.000 But you didn't even really get it.
01:13:08.000 That's the point, yeah.
01:13:10.000 That's a full point.
01:13:12.000 And this is why the academy is getting so tilted and out of whack.
01:13:17.000 And while when you send your kids to places like ASU and other schools, and it pains me to say this, you're playing Russian roulette with their values.
01:13:24.000 Because here's one guy standing in the gap saying, hey, let's explore some of these different ideas.
01:13:29.000 And it doesn't sound like you're overdoing it or something.
01:13:33.000 No, well, that's the thing.
01:13:33.000 When you hear I'm too Christian, you might think I have like altar calls at the end of every lecture or something.
01:13:38.000 These are classes where these five questions, they're not specifically Christian at all.
01:13:43.000 They might be Plato, Aristotle, Viktor Frankl.
01:13:46.000 And so, what they're doing is they're taking a warning shot, right?
01:13:49.000 They're shot over my bow to say, Hey, Anderson, we're watching you.
01:13:52.000 And we can basically charge you with anything we want.
01:13:55.000 We can find evidence to prove anything we want.
01:13:57.000 These five questions are a joke.
01:13:59.000 The two students didn't actually complain, they just had a hypothetical they might be.
01:14:04.000 And so, this is just a warning to myself.
01:14:06.000 In law, this is called the chilling effect because it tells all conservatives at ASU, there's not a lot of us.
01:14:11.000 But the few that are there, you better be quiet, or what happened to Anderson will happen to you also.
01:14:16.000 Yeah, this is all I can think.
01:14:17.000 I imagine there's a lot of professors at ASU, a lot are probably on the other end of the ideological spectrum.
01:14:24.000 You must have, you don't need to name names, but you've probably seen some really egregious classes and really egregious tests, biases flourish at that university.
01:14:35.000 And what do they let people get away with if they're in the right ideological camp?
01:14:39.000 Maybe I'm wrong, but I bet there's stories.
01:14:41.000 No, I've got so many stories.
01:14:43.000 I've been posting them on my Substack because let me give you an example.
01:14:45.000 Based on what Andrew said about paganism, our honors college had an event about the benefits of witchcraft. 0.91
01:14:52.000 And not just like as a feminist ideal, but no, witchcraft has benefits for female students. 0.78
01:14:58.000 It had another event on the benefits of polyamory.
01:15:02.000 Now, I've never seen an event on the benefits of biblical marriage. 0.80
01:15:06.000 And so, yeah, they're allowed to get away with pretty well anything they want.
01:15:09.000 But this Christian professor comes along and he asks the question should death make us think about the meaning of life? 0.84
01:15:15.000 And that just is. 1.00
01:15:16.000 Too far for them.
01:15:17.000 They can't handle that.
01:15:19.000 Yeah, it just seems obscene, I think, to the average listener, to the normal American, that this is how tilted and out of whack this is.
01:15:30.000 But it doesn't surprise me, Professor Anderson, these are my words, not yours, that a school that's embracing witchcraft and polyamory would be so offended at biblical Christian truth.
01:15:42.000 Presented ever so gently, by the way, and in the midst of a larger curriculum at which you're not.
01:15:48.000 You're not proselytizing.
01:15:49.000 You're not, as you said, doing altar calls.
01:15:52.000 I would have no problem if you were.
01:15:54.000 As a matter of fact, I think there should be more universities where we're proselytizing.
01:15:59.000 Well, and it would be one guy out of thousands, right?
01:16:01.000 Because a thousand leftists are doing their altar calls for paganism.
01:16:05.000 Yeah.
01:16:05.000 So explain this, though, this drive, because I think a lot of people scratch their heads when they look at the academy and they're told it's like 20 liberal or progressive professors to one conservative or libertarian.
01:16:19.000 Usually it's not even a conservative, it's usually like a libertarian.
01:16:22.000 Like, How did we get here?
01:16:23.000 Because your story is endemic, I think, of a larger rot in the academy.
01:16:29.000 The coercion, the social pressures, the financial pressures.
01:16:34.000 Well, we got here by something you said earlier, which is we've permitted this idea that universities are not going to make us more virtuous.
01:16:42.000 We've turned a blind eye to how much they teach people that vices are good.
01:16:47.000 And we agreed to a myth. 0.98
01:16:48.000 The myth is the myth of neutrality that we can kick Christianity out of the universities and nothing will replace it. 0.79
01:16:55.000 But instead, Marxism of various shades replaced it because Marxism makes claims, moral claims, like the oppressor oppressed dialectic. 0.60
01:17:04.000 And so that's allowed to be taught because they'll say, well, that's not a religion.
01:17:08.000 That's just the truth of the matter.
01:17:10.000 But Christianity is a religion and it's biased. 0.93
01:17:12.000 And so I think it's time for Christians to say, hey, I'm not going to do that anymore. 0.97
01:17:15.000 I don't buy into that. 0.97
01:17:16.000 There's really no neutrality.
01:17:18.000 Universities are pushing this far left ideology and they're doing it on taxpayer money.
01:17:23.000 And that needs to end.
01:17:24.000 You know, I kind of got started.
01:17:26.000 What you just said is so profound.
01:17:29.000 The entirety of our country was sold a lie about neutrality. 0.82
01:17:34.000 That, yeah, we're a mostly white, mostly Christian nation.
01:17:37.000 This is decades we've been told this. 0.96
01:17:39.000 And we need to be neutral.
01:17:40.000 In the public square, everybody needs to be neutral, no bias.
01:17:43.000 Meanwhile, they brought all of their biases in.
01:17:46.000 Meanwhile, they brought all of their agendas in.
01:17:48.000 And they call it rationality and neutrality.
01:17:51.000 Yeah.
01:17:51.000 And that you are the bigot and you are the problem if you dare to stand up for what this country has always reflected the values of its people.
01:18:03.000 Yeah.
01:18:04.000 It's a profound psychological operation that has been levied against the American people for decades.
01:18:11.000 And it's been led by people in the academy.
01:18:13.000 And I think, I mean, listen, again, my word's not yours.
01:18:17.000 I think it's one of the most diabolical things that has ever happened to this country to hollow out institutions that should advance virtue, like the academy, but to then make it basically illegal when somebody dares bring those values into the classroom.
01:18:33.000 And by the way, in such a gentle way, in such a respectful way.
01:18:36.000 Yeah.
01:18:36.000 Because you know, if I ask even five questions out of 100, they'll kick me out, right?
01:18:42.000 So that's the chilling factor.
01:18:44.000 You don't want to deal with that.
01:18:44.000 I just want to be professional.
01:18:45.000 Professor, most people say so, they don't even raise a question.
01:18:48.000 Thank you, though.
01:18:48.000 Professor Anderson, thank you so much for bringing this story to us.
01:18:52.000 It's so important.
01:18:53.000 We have to keep calling it out.
01:18:55.000 And I hope ASU gets a, you know, let's just say a slap on the wrist from Harmeet Dillon.
01:19:03.000 All right, Blake, we got emails.
01:19:04.000 Oh, we're making more space for emails because you guys just went crazy on me.
01:19:09.000 I just liked Francisco here in AZ says, Tim Miller told on his insane self when he said, Don't you watch 60 Minutes.
01:19:17.000 And he goes, I was a Republican under three losers McCain, some guy in Utah, Texas, Jeb Bush.
01:19:24.000 They all want open borders for guns and drug runnings, in my opinion.
01:19:29.000 And he just says start a segment called 60 Minute News, list all of their lies, then list all of the facts.
01:19:36.000 Love you, Francisco. 0.99
01:19:37.000 Caroline says, please don't have this jerk back on your program. 0.98
01:19:40.000 I didn't know who he was, so I Googled him. 0.99
01:19:42.000 He's a Bush person, figures.
01:19:45.000 I just love how it's like, at this point, Jeb Bush people, it's like as obvious a marker as if it was a.
01:19:52.000 Kamala person.
01:19:53.000 Larry says, I wanted to thank you for that message.
01:19:56.000 I believe President Trump is doing a wonderful job on undoing the ideology of leftist anti American government because I believe that is what they are.
01:20:05.000 We need to abolish them.
01:20:06.000 President Trump and Vice President Vance are doing their best, I believe.
01:20:09.000 Thank you.
01:20:10.000 We got a very long one from Kenny who had some very colorful things to say about Miller.
01:20:14.000 He says Miller just absolutely loved Biden for four years.
01:20:18.000 I didn't check on that, but I find it pretty believable.
01:20:20.000 But overall, he's pointing out, he's saying outsourcing has been a problem for years from both Democrats and Republicans.
01:20:26.000 NAFTA under Clinton was a big disaster and a failure.
01:20:30.000 Two or three were shot by ICE, but they were trying to illegally impede ICE officers.
01:20:35.000 They are terrorizing them, harassing them, and that is going to be a side effect of that, tragically.
01:20:41.000 Exactly.
01:20:41.000 So look at this cover from the New York Post.
01:20:43.000 Throw it up, guys, if you just can get it.
01:20:45.000 I know I just sent it over.
01:20:46.000 But car attacks on ICE agents spiked by more than 3,200% in a year, DHS reveals after the Minnesota ICE shooting.
01:20:55.000 Yeah.
01:20:55.000 So this is what they do they train up activists.
01:20:59.000 They get them all whooped up.
01:21:00.000 They use their media apparatus to say, oh, this is Gestapo. 0.66
01:21:05.000 They're Nazis, masked vigilantes.
01:21:08.000 No, they're ICE agents, and their lives are on the line every single day that they go out there and enforce our nation's laws. 0.94
01:21:13.000 And then they get these community activists, they're criminals, to go and chase ICE agents around with a car, to dox them, to threaten them, to spit in their face, to get in their face, get big, get loud.
01:21:29.000 And then they act shocked when bad things happen.
01:21:32.000 This is what my dad told me to do when I got pulled over by a police officer, if it ever happened.
01:21:38.000 And it happened a couple of times when I was younger, speeding or whatever.
01:21:40.000 You put your hands at 10 and 2, you turn the car off, you put the keys on the dash, you roll down the window, you say, Yes, officer, no, officer, how can I help you, officer, and you comply.
01:21:55.000 Okay, now contrast that image of interacting with law enforcement with what the left trains their activists to do shout, whistles, blow horns.
01:22:03.000 Ram them with cars, trail them in caravans.
01:22:08.000 No, no, no, no.
01:22:09.000 You do not behave that way in front of a police officer.
01:22:12.000 And the fact that people like Tim Miller and others get all over wherever and they say that actually it's the ICE agents that are wrong, actually they're the Gestapo.
01:22:22.000 No.
01:22:22.000 If you get in the way of a police officer, if you get in the way of a law enforcement officer, you put your life into your own hands.
01:22:29.000 And yes, it is tragic when things go awry, when tragedies happen.
01:22:33.000 But I cannot abide this anti police sentiment, this anti law enforcement sentiment.
01:22:38.000 They are all contributing to all of it, all of the chaos.
01:22:42.000 It is not good if a police officer shoots someone unnecessarily, but when you make it so that police have to violently rest you to the ground, throw you to the ground because you are breaking the law and getting in the way, you are putting life in the hands of God, basically.
01:22:58.000 You are taking a risk, and we have to be honest about that.
01:23:01.000 And it is one political faction of this country that is aggressively trying to make situations like this happen.
01:23:08.000 They are using people as human shields and then screaming when their human shield gets hurt.
01:23:14.000 And guess what?
01:23:15.000 Blake was 100% accurate.
01:23:17.000 They wanted something like this to happen.
01:23:20.000 They wanted a cause celeb.
01:23:21.000 They wanted a name that they could bandy about as a political cudgel.
01:23:27.000 And guess what they got? 0.90
01:23:28.000 They got Alex Pretty and Renee Good.
01:23:29.000 Do I wish they were still alive?
01:23:31.000 Yes.
01:23:32.000 But guess who's taking the most advantage of their names?
01:23:35.000 The reason you still know their names is because leftists keep bringing them up.
01:23:38.000 And then there are immediate responses because they know strategically, because this has happened.
01:23:42.000 Oh, guess we can't have a border anymore.
01:23:44.000 Yep.
01:23:44.000 That is how they operate.
01:23:45.000 Yep.
01:23:45.000 So we have to get the socialists to open the border.
01:23:48.000 We've got to end ice.
01:23:49.000 Can't have any ice.
01:23:49.000 If anyone's illegally in this country, they can never fear being arrested.
01:23:53.000 That's why they always want to expand the places you can't go. 0.95
01:23:55.000 Can't arrest them at a supermarket.
01:23:57.000 Can't arrest them at a courthouse. 0.59
01:23:58.000 Can't arrest them at an airport where they're possibly flying back and forth to the country that they claim asylum from.
01:24:03.000 Can't ever arrest them for any of these things.
01:24:06.000 And ultimately, they just don't want laws.
01:24:08.000 Do we have any more emails?
01:24:09.000 We need to get to them.
01:24:09.000 Oh, they're endlessly flooding in, but nothing super new.
01:24:15.000 Well, I love it.
01:24:17.000 Blake went off.
01:24:18.000 I'm getting that note from you.
01:24:20.000 Did kind of go off.
01:24:21.000 I did.
01:24:21.000 Here's the power.
01:24:22.000 100%.
01:24:22.000 I've known Tim for a long time.
01:24:24.000 I think his ideas are destructive and terrible and horrible and wretched.
01:24:28.000 But I've also had to sort of, you know, see him at events.
01:24:33.000 And, you know, I was coming in with a little different energy, and Blake just bam, right out the door.
01:24:40.000 In we go.
01:24:41.000 Yeah.
01:24:42.000 But, yeah, I mean, listen, it's okay to have, you know, I'm a big believer in, you know, You try and we've seen what happens with dehumanization in this direction.
01:24:53.000 This is why Charlie isn't with us.
01:24:55.000 And I try and make sure that we always remember people are humans, but you can hate the heck out of their ideas.
01:25:00.000 You can think, I mean, you should.
01:25:02.000 You should viscerally be disgusted by it because it's how we got into this mess.
01:25:07.000 This whole idea that, oh, we've changed the way America should be a welcoming place.
01:25:10.000 Maybe we shouldn't.
01:25:12.000 Like, where do you get off on that? 1.00
01:25:13.000 Like, why should we be welcoming all these H 1Bs to take our jobs? 1.00
01:25:17.000 Why should we be welcoming all these third worlders to? 1.00
01:25:20.000 Dilute our culture and get on welfare. 1.00
01:25:22.000 No thanks.
01:25:23.000 No more.
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