Jim Jordan and Pedro Gonzalez join us to talk about the weaponization of government, AOC, Elon Omar, and Lindsey Graham, and the Chinese spy balloon over the United States. Also, a new amendment that would require members of the Judiciary Committee to take part in the Pledge of Allegiance before every committee hearing.
00:00:47.000We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
00:01:26.000Well, I'm concerned like I think every American should be.
00:01:28.000I mean, this is not a balloon from anywhere.
00:01:31.000It's from China, the same China that's, you know, supposedly spying on Americans through TikTok, the same China who's showing all kinds of aggressive moves regarding Taiwan, same China who steals our intellectual property.
00:01:43.000The same China who told us, oh, no, no, the virus didn't start in the lab.
00:01:49.000It was a bat to a penguin, to a hippopotamus, to Joe Rogan, and then, you know, the virus goes everywhere.
00:01:55.000I mean, so we're supposed to just say, oh, this is just a weather balloon that is off course because of the western, the prevailing westerly wind.
00:02:03.000I just'm concerned, I think, like any American would be, Charlie.
00:02:09.000But Joe Biden seems not to be too concerned.
00:02:11.000I think he's heading off to his home in Delaware for the weekend.
00:02:15.000Yeah, and the Pentagon has just told us, get used to it.
00:02:18.000The Chinese spy balloon is going to be over the United States for a few days.
00:02:21.000So just get comfortable as the Chinese Communist Party floats a surveillance object over our sovereignty.
00:03:20.000Well, the history here is we offered this amendment two years ago when we organized under the Democrats to organize the Judiciary Committee and they voted it down.
00:03:27.000So we Representative Gates brought it back again and we had his guest there, a decorated member of our military.
00:03:35.000You know, the reason we think it makes sense is because this is not just any committee.
00:03:40.000This is a committee of the United States Congress that's the Judiciary Committee whose primary responsibility is to protect the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, the First Amendment, which we think has been assaulted by the Biden administration, the Democrats last two years, the Second Amendment, and all the rights we enjoy as American citizens.
00:03:55.000And so we felt maybe it's appropriate for this committee from time to time to go ahead and say the Pledge of Allegiance before an important hearing.
00:04:02.000And we thought that the hearing that organized the committee made sense to do that and to put this in our rules.
00:04:50.000This is intentional, what the Biden administration has done, because on day one, Joe Biden said, we are going to stop building the wall.
00:04:56.000We're going to get rid of Remain in Mexico for people seeking asylum, and we're not going to deport anyone.
00:05:02.000And then you get this influx of people, this unbelievable number never seen in the history of our country, record numbers month after month after month, 5 million in two years.
00:05:32.000I mean, literally what he said, and he said it's the worst because all the people coming across, but the crime, the cost to communities, the cost of schools, the cost of local hospitals, the cost of the entire country, the cost to our system, and then the focus on processing these individuals, what the Biden administration is doing, and then you can't catch the fentanyl and everything else and the smuggling and all the bad things that are happening coming across outside the ports of entry.
00:05:57.000And then, of course, what we're going to do in the committee is fix it by passing legislation that will immigration enforcement legislation that will change the policies.
00:06:06.000Back to the policies, frankly, we had under President Trump.
00:06:17.000And then, of course, as you mentioned, the oversight, because we do believe that our government now has been turned against the people and in many ways is targeting the very people it's supposed to represent and that we have a double standard of justice in the country.
00:06:56.000Haven't announced the witnesses, but we will do that soon.
00:06:59.000We're working on finalizing those details.
00:07:02.000But, you know, we've had whistleblowers come talk to us, Charlie.
00:07:05.000We've talked about this before on your show, that FBI agents have come talk to us about how political that place has become.
00:07:12.000The very first one was on the school board's issue, where they talked about this threat tag designation put on parents who were reported on the snitch line that the Attorney General of the United States set up.
00:07:22.000And as a result of all that, 25 different parents had the FBI show up at their house simply because they went to a school board meeting and advocated for their son or daughter.
00:07:31.000Now, the chilling impact that has on speech is, I think, profound.
00:07:34.000So we're going to look at those kind of things, not to mention other areas where we think the government has been weaponized.
00:07:43.000We saw just this past week, the pro-life activist who was found not guilty for a charge brought by the U.S. attorneys in that district outside of Philadelphia, brought against this guy where he was arrested in his home in front of his wife, in front of his kids, for defending his son outside an abortion clinic where they were praying and counseling people.
00:08:02.000But yet the federal government prosecuted, even though local law enforcement, even though the local prosecutors said there's no crime here, we're not going to prosecute this.
00:08:11.000The FBI comes in and does this kind of stuff.
00:08:13.000Now, thank goodness the jury did the right thing.
00:08:15.000But the double standard we see time and time again, whether it's with Trump and the classified documents or this issue, is real and it's not supposed to work that way in America.
00:08:28.000Well, Congressman, keep up the great work.
00:08:30.000And just one final, I want to get your reaction on the outrage, just the out-of-control reaction from Elon Omar not being on, I think it's the Foreign Affairs Committee or it's some foreign policy-focused committee.
00:08:46.000Yeah, just the out-of-control reaction.
00:09:32.000Just to reiterate the news that we said earlier, the Pentagon has told you, the American people, the Chinese spy balloon will probably be over the United States for another few days.
00:11:37.000Don't tell me that this is about a condemnation of anti-Semitic remarks when you have a member of the Republican caucus who has talked about Jewish space lasers and an entire amount of tropes and also elevated her to some of the highest committee assignments in this body.
00:11:54.000This is about targeting women of color in the United States of America.
00:11:59.000Don't tell me because I didn't get a single approach.
00:12:20.000She said it's uncomfortable serving with people who engage in what many experts deem stochastic terrorism, play cut 93.
00:12:28.000I think it's uncomfortable serving with people who engage in what many experts deem stochastic terrorism.
00:12:40.000But I have had to ride, as has Representative Omar, have consistently had to ride in 20,000-pound armored vehicles in engaging in some of the most gruesome threats that you can imagine that were incited by Republican members.
00:13:50.000And my leadership and voice will not be diminished.
00:13:54.000If I am not on this committee for one term, my voice will get louder and stronger, and my leadership will be celebrated around the world as it has been.
00:14:06.000Her leadership will definitely be celebrated in Tehran and Mogadishu.
00:14:22.000And she stood there next to a picture of her as a refugee.
00:14:26.000And that should exactly be why, Elon Omar, you should have a little more gratitude for living in the greatest nation ever to exist in the history of the world.
00:14:33.000You were let into America because of our benevolency and our generosity.
00:14:37.000You were let into America because we believe the lie, invade the world, invite the world.
00:14:42.000Now, we didn't necessarily invade Somalia.
00:14:44.000We certainly played some shenanigans in Mogadishu.
00:14:46.000In fact, the film Black Cawk Down summarizes part of that.
00:14:50.000We were definitely involved in Somalia in the 90s, no doubt.
00:15:56.000When Roe versus Wade fell as the law of the land last year, all it did was increase what pro-abortion states are doing to entice and mislead women to abort their children.
00:16:05.000States are now advertising to travel just to get an abortion.
00:16:11.000So the need to provide the truth as girls and women are contemplating what to do about their pregnancy is greater now than ever before.
00:16:18.000Ultrasounds save babies because ultrasounds give the truth at a time everyone else is saying it's not just a baby, it's just a clump of cells.
00:16:26.000When you introduce a girl to her baby by providing an ultrasound, you are giving her the truth at the most important time of her life.
00:16:33.000And more than 85% of the time, she will choose life.
00:16:36.000You don't have to make a lot of noise to make a big difference for life.
00:16:39.000Just give an ultrasound at preborn.org to be a hero for life.
00:17:59.000I don't know because Lindsey has built his career on lying to people and probably lying to himself.
00:18:06.000But I think the bottom line is exactly what you said at the outset: that it's not a good sign that Lindsey Graham is in such close proximity to Trump.
00:18:13.000And the idea that Trump needs Lindsey Graham's support in order to win South Carolina, that argument just seems to not make sense at all.
00:18:22.000And if that's true, that actually means that Trump has bigger problems than people, I guess, are aware of, right?
00:18:31.000If Lindsey Graham is critical to your success, it's not a good sign for your campaign.
00:18:36.000So really, there's no rational reason for the right to make excuses for Lindsey Graham's proximity to Trump.
00:18:44.000And I think that Graham is among the most pernicious in the GOP, precisely for the reasons that I outlined the other night on Tucker Carlson.
00:18:54.000But I can actually go a little bit more in depth here because I have more time.
00:18:57.000But, you know, again, people look at Graham.
00:18:59.000People look at Graham and they see this kind of goofy character who's ultimately harmless, but he's not.
00:19:06.000Graham is a snake, and he knows that there's this kind of public perception of him as this kind of dainty, you know, strange guy who, again, is just, you have a lot of questions about him, but ultimately, you know, he's not going to stab you in the back.
00:19:53.000Because that took place in late 2016, one year after a ceasefire had been signed between Russia and Ukraine.
00:20:04.000After the U.S.-backed color revolution in Kiev produced regime change favorable to Washington, D.C., pro-Russian groups in eastern Ukraine, because there are people that are pro-Russian, that have been living in Ukraine for a long, long time.
00:20:34.000And the second one was signed in 2015.
00:20:36.000And again, the idea was stop fighting.
00:20:39.000We're going to try to work out a deal that basically satisfies Russia's security concerns and also guarantees Ukrainian sovereignty, right?
00:22:02.000And where he has proximity to Trump through, I think he understands that Trump is probably going to be the nominee.
00:22:12.000He uses flattery, even though he's ideologically inconsistent with Trump on immigration, trade, and foreign policy, and obviously the fourth branch of government, the administrative state.
00:22:26.000And so help me understand what's going on here because our audience, Pedro, shares my concern.
00:22:35.000They are just as disturbed as I am that Lindsey Graham is now in the inner circle.
00:22:40.000He is now on the like foundational launch committee for Donald Trump's 2024 candidacy.
00:22:48.000Yeah, I think flattery is certainly part of it.
00:22:50.000But I think that I'm sorry to say, and this is something that Trump supporters have to grapple with for the sake of your own movement, you know, for the sake of the America First Man, it's really important to make that distinction, right?
00:23:06.000And yes, Trump became the standard bearer of the movement.
00:23:09.000But ultimately, if the man is doing things that are inconsistent with the mandate and you believe in the mandate, then you have to basically police your own movement.
00:23:19.000I mean, I don't know how else to put it.
00:23:21.000And Trump basically, not just keeping Graham around, but endorsing him, because go back to that rally in January.
00:23:31.000You know, Trump says he's a good guy and a good politician.
00:23:35.000Graham is neither a good guy, and he's a good politician in the sense that he's a very good liar, but in the sense of a statesman, he's not that, not at all.
00:23:42.000And that's that's a problem because you can't drain the swamp when you're keeping people like Lindsey Graham around who are integral to the swamp.
00:23:51.000And so, again, I think that this actually unfortunately just fits a pattern of Trump making bad decisions when it comes to who he keeps around.
00:24:01.000But at the same time, I think there's some other kind of transactional aspect to it that's just not obvious.
00:24:07.000It's not above the surface for most of us.
00:24:10.000And to give another example of this, someone who's just like Lindsey Graham in the sense that they're ideologically not aligned with the America First mandate, and yet they occupy a position of power and influence in the Trump world as Susie Wiles.
00:24:26.000Susie Wiles became rather infamous because she publicly went to war with basically Trump supporters over the RNC chairship.
00:24:40.000And she made these public statements saying she didn't name names, but it's very obvious who she was directing her fire at Harmee Dillon and Mike Lindell, saying that anybody criticizing Rana Romney McDaniel for mismanaging her tenure at the RNC was basically lying and distorting her record and all this stuff.
00:24:59.000And so it was a really awkward moment because you have Trump's top lieutenant, that's Susie Wiles.
00:25:06.000She runs his Save America leadership pack.
00:26:51.000I said this on Toronto Carlson's show.
00:26:53.000Lindsey Graham's influence is negative.
00:26:56.000You know, people have forgotten about this, but in 2020, he was pushing a visa giveaway for China with the Trump White House.
00:27:03.000And the only reason that that got traction was precisely because of his proximity to Trump.
00:27:08.000And the only reason it died, again, was because of the pandemic.
00:27:13.000So I think that's, I've said that before.
00:27:14.000I'm going to say it again until I'm blue in the face, but it's an example of why it does matter who is around you because they will influence you.
00:27:23.000And Lindsey Graham is a master of influence, despite the fact that we think of him as this, again, this kind of like weird but harmless person.
00:28:16.000Joe Kent's wife died in the wars that guys like Kevin McCarthy support, right?
00:28:22.000Kevin McCarthy's never fought in these wars, neither has Lindsey Graham for that matter, but they support them.
00:28:27.000And so Joe Kent, a guy who lost his wife in these wars and who fought them himself, got slandered by the political machine around Kevin McCarthy as basically a crypto leftist, as a Bernie Sanders guy.
00:28:38.000They found pictures of him with long hair because he was in special forces.
00:28:41.000So they allowed him to do that, right?
00:28:43.000And they said, look, this is proof that this guy's a leftist.
00:28:47.000They did the same thing with Anthony Sabatini.
00:28:49.000And, you know, I think that the records of guys like Kent and Sabatini, what they said and what they believe in, speak for themselves.
00:28:56.000And so you have a guy like Kevin McCarthy who you say Trump is, or some people believe that Trump is keeping him close because he's actually an enemy.
00:29:04.000Well, the problem with that proximity is that it enables him to attack people who are actually MAGA and then get away with it.
00:29:11.000You could say that it allows him to get away with murder.
00:29:13.000And I think it's the same thing with Lindsey Graham.
00:29:16.000The problem is that if you encircle yourself with your enemies, going again with this analogy, those people are going to do bad things to like MAGA people, basically.
00:29:29.000Like keep your enemies close, keep your enemies close, keep your suddenly you find yourself surrounded by a wall of enemies who are keeping all the good people out of the movement or making sure that there's a kind of gate that only allows them to get so close.
00:29:42.000And I think that I don't believe, I understand why people believe that analogy and keeping your enemies closer.
00:29:50.000But at the same time, even if you accept it on its face, at a certain point, you know, when you're only surrounded by enemies, you see the problem here.
00:29:59.000And you see why the mandate is just undermined at every single turn.
00:30:05.000And then you find out, like, oh, you know, that's why we didn't get things done in the first administration because it was Chad Wolf at DHS.
00:30:14.000Well, Chad Wolf was an immigration lobbyist.
00:30:17.000A lot of people don't know about this.
00:30:18.000They just, you know, they see the picture of Chad Wolf with aviator sunglasses in a helicopter and they're like, okay, well, that guy, look at his physiognomy.
00:30:26.000Well, at DHS, Chad Wolfe was terrible.
00:30:29.000People have totally forgotten about this.
00:30:32.000But Chad Wolf, who was an immigration lobbyist before he became the head of DHS under Trump, did nothing to ensure the border wall was going to get built.
00:30:42.000He lavished discretionary funds on sanctuary cities and he pushed for increasing visa programs, the kind of programs that take jobs for American workers.
00:30:52.000So that's what happens when you keep your enemies too close, I guess.
00:30:56.000Even if you accept that analogy at a certain point, it does not make sense.
00:31:01.000Yeah, I would, and I would also add to that that that might be a truism under certain regimes and certain circumstances.
00:31:10.000I have never found that to be true in my own personal life of running a program or running Turning Point USA.
00:31:16.000I don't actually find it to be, it's somehow become a phrase that's repeated a lot.