The Charlie Kirk Show - December 20, 2022


Live at AmericaFest! with Newt Gingrich, Steve Bannon, Tyler Bowyer, Lori Hinz, and Fanchon Blythe


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Steve Bannon and three other members of the Republican National Committee are in favor of regime change in China. They want to take down the Communist Party of China and its leader Xi Jinping. They believe that the greatest threat to the CCP is Christianity.

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00:01:24.000 So, Steve, you said something interesting that I want to focus on.
00:01:28.000 You said it earlier.
00:01:29.000 You said that the greatest threat to the CCP is Christianity.
00:01:33.000 What do you mean by that?
00:01:34.000 Well, they know if you read the intelligence reports, it's not the American military that they're afraid of.
00:01:39.000 It's not the Seventh Fleet.
00:01:41.000 It's not NATO.
00:01:42.000 It's not even the American economy and the way we could shut down the CCP with our economic power.
00:01:48.000 Xi's internal memos show that they believe there's at least 100 million evangelical Christians in China, maybe 150 million evangelical Christians in a church that is brutally persecuted, right?
00:02:03.000 There's another, I think, 25 to 50 million underground Catholics.
00:02:07.000 So you may have of 1.2 to 1.4 billion people, you've got maybe 200 million.
00:02:14.000 China's had a history of the Taiping Rebellion back in the 19th century, started as an evangelical Christian movement.
00:02:22.000 The CCP, the emperor, the central governing apparatus of China, the CCP, and the emperors before that always feared one thing more than anything else, and that was the word of the living Christ.
00:02:35.000 Somehow, it touches the Chinese people like almost no other, and it's powerful, and they won't back down. 0.96
00:02:41.000 People have to understand there is more persecution in China to evangelical Christians and Catholics today than in first century Rome, right?
00:02:53.000 And this is this is a great mark.
00:02:54.000 Remember, they have murdered 400 million to 500 million babies, right? 0.88
00:03:01.000 They forced abortion. 0.87
00:03:03.000 This is what they call the hungry ghost of the Chinese people. 0.97
00:03:07.000 The 400 to 500 million forced abortions that they have had, principally baby girls.
00:03:13.000 This is why you have such a wide disparity on men and women in China today.
00:03:17.000 I think it's like 55 or 60, 40.
00:03:19.000 Oh, yeah, it's horrible.
00:03:20.000 It's one of the reasons that sex trafficking they never want to talk about is a massive problem inside the city.
00:03:26.000 The CCP is a transnational criminal organization, atheistic and Marxist to its core.
00:03:26.000 By their own design.
00:03:34.000 That the number one victims of it is Lao Beijing, the Chinese people. 0.87
00:03:38.000 The Chinese people and the Russian people were our great allies in World War II.
00:03:43.000 They are still our allies in taking down the World Economic Forum, Davos, right?
00:03:50.000 The central control apparatus of the administrative state.
00:03:53.000 And Lao Beijing, that's why the number one, the existential threat to the Chinese people is this murderous regime in Beijing.
00:04:01.000 And that's why any member in politics, any member in Washington, D.C., that does not try to take down the CCP, and we don't need a huge military to do it.
00:04:11.000 What we need to do is economic warfare, economic information and cyber warfare.
00:04:17.000 We can take down the Chinese Communist Party.
00:04:19.000 And our ally, our ally, is the Chinese people.
00:04:22.000 Lao Beijing yearns to be free.
00:04:25.000 The slave labor of China makes the whole world system work. 1.00
00:04:29.000 This is why they've shifted all the manufacturing jobs from America to China. 0.70
00:04:34.000 The Chinese people are slave laborers. 1.00
00:04:36.000 Look at the apple plant in China. 0.95
00:04:38.000 Look at them running away from Apple in the middle of winter, right?
00:04:43.000 By the tens of thousands. 0.93
00:04:44.000 It's slave labor, and our economic system supports it.
00:04:49.000 The world is not free until the Chinese people are free. 0.99
00:04:54.000 Once the Chinese people are free, Lao Beijing, once they're free, old hundred names, once they're free, everybody's free.
00:05:00.000 All wages in the world will go up.
00:05:02.000 And that is why, by the way, at the root of it is a spiritual warfare because global secular humanism, atheism despises the Judeo-Christian West and the underlying values of the Judeo-Christian West, and they will do everything to destroy it.
00:05:19.000 And that's why you're seeing the administrative state that is their partners here in the United States as their partners is trying to destroy Christianity. 0.57
00:05:28.000 Absolutely.
00:05:29.000 They're trying to eradicate it here in the United States, and that's why we have to stand up for the Judeo-Christian West. 1.00
00:05:34.000 And that's why the Vatican, in concert with the Democratic Party, fired Father Provon, or tried to fire him on Saturday night, the leader of the pro-left, the leader of the pro-left movement.
00:05:46.000 Steve, this is mercantilism by a different name.
00:05:49.000 It's the same sort of economic model that was used in the slave trade, which is countries basically doing mass labor arbitrage and then getting fabulously wealthy off the slave labor of different countries.
00:06:03.000 The Chinese Communist Party's business model is the British East India Company in reverse.
00:06:07.000 That's exactly right.
00:06:08.000 The British East India Company.
00:06:09.000 This is how you get the very same stuff we're supposed to hate that BLM preaches against.
00:06:14.000 Exactly.
00:06:14.000 And they're doing it in reverse.
00:06:16.000 This is one of the reasons.
00:06:17.000 Remember, the Chinese Communist Party is fighting a second opium, a third opium war.
00:06:22.000 What the British try to do to the Chinese people, which basically make them drug addicts, right, with opium, right now, the CCP with the cartels and quite frankly, TikTok plus fentanyl are the two.
00:06:34.000 Well, and TikTok.
00:06:36.000 How, by the way, how did the Democratic Party use the influencers, invite these freaks to the White House and use TikTok on election day?
00:06:44.000 And now we've got everybody saying, well, TikTok, they agree with us.
00:06:47.000 TikTok is an apparatus of the Chinese Communist Party.
00:06:50.000 It's getting information of our children.
00:06:53.000 Not just that, it's poisoning them with all this content.
00:06:56.000 How's that a big reveal a month after the election?
00:06:59.000 How does that work?
00:07:01.000 It works for many reasons.
00:07:02.000 First of all, it's Facebook and Google that are pushing it, but it's all a fake fight.
00:07:06.000 And the CCP has actual fentanyl and then digital fentanyl, which is the opium wars in reverse against the West.
00:07:13.000 And so what I find to be really interesting, though, about Steve, that whole calculation, Xi Jinping knows the power of the gospel.
00:07:19.000 He knows that Christianity could break that regime almost overnight.
00:07:24.000 They have to be atheistic.
00:07:25.000 They have to be atheists. 0.95
00:07:26.000 They can't compete with the word of the living Christ.
00:07:29.000 He understands that.
00:07:30.000 That's why they have to break the Christian church. 0.99
00:07:33.000 That's why they have to break the Catholic Church. 0.97
00:07:35.000 By the way, I think I like doing Charlie's show, Alma's Better than the War.
00:07:38.000 I'm going to talk more.
00:07:39.000 100%.
00:07:40.000 I like it because I get to listen.
00:07:43.000 Good point.
00:07:43.000 I'm going to do Charlie Kirk's show more often.
00:07:45.000 You should.
00:07:46.000 But Steve, really quick, I mean, this is critical because the Chinese people are actually very pro-Israel.
00:07:52.000 They love old history.
00:07:54.000 They love the idea.
00:07:56.000 When exposed to the Bible, it illuminates them in a very powerful way.
00:08:02.000 It touches the Chinese people are very emotional.
00:08:05.000 It touches their heart.
00:08:06.000 The gospels have a way of speaking to them.
00:08:09.000 Remember, the Chinese people took 25 to 35 million casualties against the Imperial Japanese Army in World War II on mainland China.
00:08:18.000 The Great Land War was fought just like the Great Land War was fought in Russia.
00:08:21.000 The Chinese people and the Russian people have always been our allies.
00:08:25.000 They were our allies in the 1940s, and they're our allies today.
00:08:29.000 Not their corrupt leaders, not the KGB, and not the gangsters.
00:08:34.000 Those people are our allies in a fight for world freedom and religious liberty.
00:08:41.000 And so, Steve, there is going to be the left always tells us globalism is inevitable.
00:08:47.000 They love to make us pessimistic under this lie of inevitability.
00:08:52.000 It's written in Hegelianism.
00:08:54.000 It's written in all their literature.
00:08:55.000 We only have 45 seconds, rather heady topic, but we have to be very clear that their victory is not inevitable.
00:09:03.000 In fact, they're trying to make us surrender and submit because this is what they always say in the backroom deals, all the hedge fund guys.
00:09:08.000 Hey, it's going to happen.
00:09:09.000 You might as well get on the right side.
00:09:10.000 So, Charlie Kirk show tells you populist nationalism is the present and it is the future.
00:09:15.000 And it is the solution.
00:09:16.000 I'm sorry.
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00:09:18.000 Thank you.
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00:10:59.000 So we have some very special guests with us.
00:11:01.000 We are focusing on the RNC race.
00:11:04.000 And I have some very strong opinions about if you lose, you should no longer be in charge of something.
00:11:09.000 That's how we treat our football teams, our corporations, and that's how we should treat our political parties.
00:11:14.000 So with us, three members of the 168 that are going to be voting in Dana Point, California.
00:11:20.000 We have Lori Hines from North Dakota, Hinns, Lori Hinns from North Dakota, and we have Sanshan from Nebraska and Tyler Boyer.
00:11:30.000 So Tyler, why don't you introduce this whole kind of group of rebels we have here?
00:11:35.000 Well, yesterday, actually, these two actually put out a letter to the entire 168 in the Republican National Committee.
00:11:42.000 And we can read a little clip from it.
00:11:44.000 But basically, it came out and said, we need new blood.
00:11:47.000 We need to listen to the grassroots.
00:11:49.000 And we have to represent the Republican Party from the grassroots level.
00:11:54.000 And so these two wonderful women are some of the biggest leaders that we have in the country.
00:11:58.000 Lori is one of the most famous individuals that we have in North Dakota.
00:12:03.000 We love her to death.
00:12:04.000 And Fan John just led a rebellion in Nebraska, which should be the way that we do things in the Republican Party in every state.
00:12:14.000 And so why don't you guys talk a little bit about your letter that you put out yesterday and what you said?
00:12:19.000 Well, we collaborated on this letter.
00:12:21.000 Is this on?
00:12:22.000 Yes, it is.
00:12:22.000 All right.
00:12:23.000 We collaborated on the letter with another National Committee woman, Laura Nakane Lua from Hawaii.
00:12:30.000 I love Hawaii.
00:12:30.000 I do love it.
00:12:31.000 Aloha, Laura.
00:12:32.000 Aloha, Laura.
00:12:33.000 And she went with us and we went and we put the letter together and collaborated via messages back and forth.
00:12:41.000 What we did is we decided that we all wanted to go together and do this at the same time, make sure that people know that our grassroots are, we are listening to our grassroots in our state.
00:12:51.000 In my case, I held off.
00:12:53.000 I did not sign the original letter for Ronna McDaniel like the other two in my state did.
00:12:59.000 But I thought I wanted to see, first of all, who was running before I even signed on to anybody.
00:13:05.000 So I held my powder dry a little bit there and hung on and then decided that after I had done some due diligence on Hermit, and I want everybody to know, first and foremost, go to her website and see when she says on her website, she says why I'm running.
00:13:20.000 It's fantastic.
00:13:22.000 Go to dylan4rnc.com.
00:13:22.000 It's great.
00:13:26.000 D-H-I-L-L-O-N-F-O-R-R-N-C.com. 1.00
00:13:30.000 So Fanchon, tell us, you know, people are very fired up about these last reports.
00:13:36.000 $700,000 spent on flowers, $17 million in donor mementos.
00:13:41.000 We lost the Senate seat.
00:13:42.000 We barely won the House.
00:13:43.000 This should have been a red wave, and yet we're spending our money on flowers and Lululemon.
00:13:48.000 People are really angry because people from Nebraska and people from North Dakota, they're given $20 a month, they're given $50 a month.
00:13:55.000 You're a member of the RNC.
00:13:57.000 Were you just shocked when you learned that we spent $700,000 on flowers?
00:14:01.000 Well, I'm the newest member in the RNC, and I was very shocked.
00:14:07.000 I believe that I need to be listening to all of my constituents.
00:14:11.000 And pretty much every email that I receive wants me to support Harmet.
00:14:16.000 And I'm very vocal in Nebraska.
00:14:19.000 I'm one of the leaders of the grassroot movement.
00:14:22.000 And I just believe that, like Nebraska football.
00:14:27.000 That was the analogy I used.
00:14:28.000 Did you hear me do that?
00:14:29.000 Yes.
00:14:30.000 Scott Frost, great guy.
00:14:31.000 Both three and six.
00:14:32.000 I'm sorry.
00:14:32.000 We win national titles around here.
00:14:34.000 You're fired.
00:14:34.000 Exactly.
00:14:35.000 If you can't win and produce, then you're gone in Nebraska.
00:14:39.000 And I relate that to the RNC.
00:14:41.000 I've been a member since August.
00:14:43.000 I told Lori last night, Ronna's never even called me.
00:14:47.000 And she was mortified.
00:14:49.000 Like, she hasn't called you.
00:14:50.000 I said, no, she hasn't.
00:14:53.000 But there are three of us in every state.
00:14:55.000 And our national committee man, J.L. Spray, immediately signed on to support Rana.
00:15:02.000 So what the heck is the argument to support a loser? 0.97
00:15:06.000 Well, when you're part of what I call the establishment, old guard, that's who they vote for. 0.88
00:15:14.000 So in Nebraska on July 9th, a Saturday, we had our state convention.
00:15:20.000 I was one of the delegates that was decredentialed.
00:15:25.000 They weren't even going by the Constitution in Nebraska.
00:15:28.000 Today, I'm happy to say that everyone that runs the NEGOP are born-again Christians.
00:15:36.000 They pray about everything they do there.
00:15:38.000 And we run by the Constitution, just like we do in Lancaster County.
00:15:43.000 Well, I'll just tell you, Charlie, What these individuals on the RNC are doing right now in order to stand up for the grassroots really is laudable.
00:15:52.000 This is patriotism because it's really hard when you're in a small group where there's a lot of money involved to look someone in the eye and say, Look, you've got to be you've got you got it, you've got to be replaced.
00:16:03.000 And I don't think, again, we've talked about this.
00:16:05.000 You know, you can like Rana, but I there's a lot of people I like that shouldn't run the RC.
00:16:10.000 They're sweet people, they're kind.
00:16:12.000 I don't love or hate Rana, I just want to win elections.
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00:17:19.000 Laura, you said two of your colleagues in North Dakota are still in favor of losing and just basically getting paid.
00:17:27.000 Like, what is the argument you hear from your fellow RNC people in North Dakota?
00:17:32.000 Well, their argument is that things are just going fine and we just need to do more of what we're doing and try to, you know, do better next time.
00:17:38.000 And after three to five times, that kind of does not ring true for those of us.
00:17:44.000 Things are going fine.
00:17:45.000 We're losing our country very quickly.
00:17:47.000 100%.
00:17:48.000 Fetterman won.
00:17:49.000 Well, one.
00:17:49.000 Yeah.
00:17:50.000 But you know what I mean?
00:17:51.000 I mean, Fetterman will be a senator.
00:17:53.000 That's the way I should word it.
00:17:53.000 Okay.
00:17:54.000 Arizona got no money.
00:17:57.000 And what's going well exactly?
00:18:01.000 I think rhetorically, there is a fear of change.
00:18:06.000 There is a fear of change and there is a trepidation to do something that's different and out of the box.
00:18:12.000 Nobody wants to try something new or do something different.
00:18:17.000 And it's very frustrating because we're at the point where we have to.
00:18:20.000 We have to do something different or we're going to have the same result over and over again.
00:18:26.000 And at some point, that's the definition of insanity, as everybody says.
00:18:30.000 Yeah, and they get fabulously rich while doing it.
00:18:33.000 Ben, you have some people.
00:18:34.000 I want to, this is what's interesting about what's happening: is that typically the RC race is 168 people, not even that.
00:18:42.000 It's really 90 to 100 people that are either on payroll or they're getting favors or they just don't care that much.
00:18:50.000 And there's no press, there's no attention, there's no conversation, there's no chatter, and the grassroots really have no idea what's going on.
00:18:57.000 And you just wake up, you're like, why is that person still running the party? 0.98
00:18:59.000 Shut up, citizen. 0.99
00:19:01.000 Stop asking questions. 1.00
00:19:03.000 But we're doing the opposite.
00:19:04.000 We have opened this up to millions of people.
00:19:07.000 And do they hate it?
00:19:08.000 Do they hate it?
00:19:09.000 My phone blows up every day.
00:19:11.000 And I answer all those emails.
00:19:12.000 I do too.
00:19:13.000 I answer all of these.
00:19:14.000 Some of the RNC people are going to Politico, and one of them says, I don't know who these people think they are.
00:19:20.000 Right.
00:19:20.000 Trying to weigh in on the RNC risk.
00:19:22.000 The grassroots.
00:19:23.000 Yeah.
00:19:23.000 You mean the people that knock on doors that give 20 bucks a month?
00:19:26.000 The voters, the base of the party.
00:19:29.000 We're changing all of that.
00:19:30.000 Ben, do the people want the current RNC regime?
00:19:34.000 Let me ask you: do you want the current RNC?
00:19:38.000 Does anyone want McDaniels?
00:19:40.000 No!
00:19:40.000 That's zero.
00:19:41.000 What is your, you had a perfect answer for this?
00:19:43.000 Tell me that again.
00:19:44.000 Have to get rid of the mix.
00:19:45.000 Not only McDaniel, but McCarthy and McConnell.
00:19:49.000 And who do you want?
00:19:50.000 Let's go.
00:19:51.000 Let's go.
00:19:51.000 Harmeed?
00:19:52.000 Yeah, let's get it.
00:19:54.000 Harmeed!
00:19:54.000 Harmeed!
00:19:55.000 Raise your hand.
00:19:56.000 Okay, Mike Lindell.
00:19:58.000 We got some Mike Lindell's.
00:20:00.000 It looks like more Harmead's, but zero, zero.
00:20:02.000 We got a Lee Zeldon thrown in there too, but zero McDaniels.
00:20:06.000 I know, right?
00:20:08.000 So, so I hope everyone at home just heard a little bit of that on radio, and I want to get your guys' thoughts.
00:20:12.000 You're probably seeing the same thing, right, Lori?
00:20:14.000 Yeah, regular people, the plumbers, electricians, the GOP voters, the pastors, the people that are not in the club, right?
00:20:21.000 They say this is insane.
00:20:23.000 Has there ever been a greater disconnect?
00:20:25.000 No, it is very disconnected.
00:20:26.000 Now, the good news is, is that when I got elected two years ago and Fanshon got elected, what they ended up with in the RNC was grassroots people.
00:20:35.000 We came from the grassroots, right?
00:20:37.000 Straight from the grassroots in our cases. 1.00
00:20:40.000 And Laura Nakane Lua, same deal, came from the grassroots.
00:20:44.000 So we're right there.
00:20:45.000 We know and we listen to the people because we came from there.
00:20:48.000 We haven't been in the club.
00:20:50.000 We're still not in the club.
00:20:52.000 So it's a completely different.
00:20:53.000 And there are a group of new RNC members from two years ago who are in that same group.
00:20:58.000 So either Tyler or Franchon, I love your thoughts.
00:21:01.000 So we are being told that she has the votes, the race is over, everything is signed, sealed, and delivered, which is hilarious because there's no early voting in the RNC.
00:21:10.000 And it's a secret vote.
00:21:12.000 So it's a secret.
00:21:13.000 You say you're going to vote for her, but are you really going to vote for her when it comes down to it?
00:21:19.000 Part of me actually, part of me hates that it's a secret ballot.
00:21:22.000 Part of me loves that it's a secret ballot.
00:21:25.000 I agree.
00:21:25.000 See, I don't like it because I want to expose these people for voting if they do vote that way.
00:21:30.000 I agree.
00:21:30.000 But then part of me is like people that might be telling Rana, they might be able to make kind of a private vote.
00:21:36.000 Tyler, walk us through the process and when is it happening?
00:21:38.000 Charlie?
00:21:39.000 Charlie, there's a lot of people that are doing just that.
00:21:42.000 So there's a lot of people that were asked to sign on in a support letter for Rana before the election actually even happened and certainly before the Georgia election happened.
00:21:52.000 And as it was brought up, there are many of our friends that are on that letter that aren't necessarily feeling all the warm fuzzies about keeping leadership exactly the same.
00:22:02.000 And so this is where the grassroots comes in.
00:22:04.000 Every single person that's here, all of the tens of thousands of people within the sound of our voice, the hundreds of thousands of people within the sound of our voice, you have to contact your members and say, I expect you to represent the grassroots.
00:22:17.000 And if you do that, we're in a better place for that.
00:22:21.000 Like you said, because it's a secret vote that 168 of us get a vote in January on January 27th.
00:22:27.000 Every day matters.
00:22:29.000 Every hour matters.
00:22:30.000 And we have to hear from the grassroots. 0.94
00:22:32.000 So Ronna was very upset that our emails were given out.
00:22:36.000 I absolutely disagree.
00:22:38.000 I love it.
00:22:39.000 I want to hear from the people across this country.
00:22:43.000 We represent millions.
00:22:44.000 Just the three of us here represent over probably 15, 20 million people.
00:22:49.000 Well, and Nebraska and North Dakota are two of the most conservative states in the country.
00:22:53.000 By the way, anyone watching online, podcasts, radio stations across the country, I know of one website you guys can contact all of your RNC members.
00:23:01.000 It's hire, like you're hiring somebody, H-I-R-EHAME.com. 0.95
00:23:06.000 You don't have to be for Harmeet.
00:23:07.000 It's just right there.
00:23:08.000 Maybe you say, hey, I want to voice my support for Rana, of which I have not met a human being that supports her that is not being paid by her.
00:23:14.000 But if anyone does, I'd love to meet you and ask you why.
00:23:17.000 But maybe it's Mike Lindell or maybe it's someone who's not running, Lee Zeldin, and it's hireharmeet.com.
00:23:22.000 I want to read a quote here in Politico this morning.
00:23:24.000 Thank you for Scott Pressler, my friend.
00:23:26.000 Isn't Scott Pressler?
00:23:26.000 Oh, I love him.
00:23:27.000 We've had a lot of people.
00:23:27.000 We love Scott Pressler.
00:23:28.000 Isn't he great?
00:23:29.000 We love Scott Pressler.
00:23:30.000 All right.
00:23:30.000 So Reince Priebus said this.
00:23:32.000 He said, my guess is the RNC has probably the best value for every dollar donated than any other organization in DC, including all these super PACs that talk a big game.
00:23:43.000 I've got three words.
00:23:44.000 Out of touch.
00:23:47.000 He's out of touch.
00:23:49.000 There's no good value in D.C., Charlie.
00:23:51.000 So, like, any person that tries to sell you on good value in the District of Columbia is probably from the District of Columbia. 0.89
00:23:59.000 So, Ben, I want you to, and we're going to kind of do a line change like a hockey substitution here.
00:24:04.000 Ben, I want you to ask people: do they think the RNC spending $700,000 on flowers, $17 million on donor mementos, $100,000 on clothes?
00:24:13.000 Is that the best use of everyday donations, Ben?
00:24:16.000 What are the grassroots?
00:24:17.000 What do you guys say to that?
00:24:18.000 No!
00:24:20.000 Could you guys figure out a way of spending the money better than that?
00:24:23.000 Yes!
00:24:25.000 Outrageous.
00:24:26.000 Absolutely.
00:24:27.000 They're out of touch. 0.71
00:24:28.000 She's out of touch.
00:24:32.000 Out of touch, baby.
00:24:33.000 Okay.
00:24:34.000 I guess we're still going out here.
00:24:36.000 This is just, I mean, it is.
00:24:37.000 It's absolutely outrageous.
00:24:39.000 What do you want to see?
00:24:40.000 What should the RNC actually be doing?
00:24:42.000 They should be helping our candidates.
00:24:44.000 Yep.
00:24:44.000 Yes, definitely contributing instead of to the RNC directly to America First.
00:24:49.000 What about you, young man?
00:24:50.000 Well, maybe instead of buying miscellaneous goods that have no use, maybe they should spend money back in Canada.
00:24:56.000 It's like Kerry Lake here in Arizona.
00:24:59.000 Do whatever Charlie Kirk tells them to do.
00:25:04.000 Supporting our country.
00:25:06.000 Yes.
00:25:08.000 Supporting God.
00:25:09.000 Supporting God.
00:25:10.000 All right, there you go.
00:25:10.000 Hey, the best one I heard there, they should have been here in Arizona supporting Kerry Lake and the candidates all across the country, the MAGA candidates.
00:25:19.000 By the way, how great does Ben Berquam do?
00:25:21.000 This guy works so hard.
00:25:22.000 No, he really does a great job.
00:25:23.000 I love it, Charlie.
00:25:24.000 We successfully did the hockey substitution here, and now we have Speaker Newt Gingrich.
00:25:29.000 Coming up for Newt, everybody.
00:25:31.000 Such a great job.
00:25:32.000 We love Newt.
00:25:33.000 Mr. Speaker, welcome back to the program.
00:25:34.000 Charlie, it's always great to be with you, and it's fun to be here in person.
00:25:38.000 Thank you.
00:25:38.000 So, midterms didn't go the way a lot of people wanted them to.
00:25:42.000 You and I had a good conversation, and we said we're still thinking and exploring as to why.
00:25:46.000 What is your takeaway?
00:25:48.000 Well, look, I think, first of all, on the Senate side, you have to stand for something.
00:25:54.000 You can't just be anti-Biden because people just shrug and say, fine, he ain't doing a good job, but you aren't going to do any job.
00:26:00.000 And frankly, the behavior of some of the Senate Republican leadership recently, if they roll over and cave to this huge spending bill, there's no wonder the grassroots is disgusted.
00:26:11.000 Yes, their argument, though, is that, well, it's going to help the new Congress by, it robs their term, doesn't it?
00:26:18.000 Well, first of all, since Kevin McCarthy has the biggest single interest in the new Congress, and he's saying publicly, they're just plain wrong.
00:26:27.000 Yes.
00:26:27.000 He does not want it passed.
00:26:29.000 Furthermore, apparently they've agreeing like an extra $100 billion in spending.
00:26:34.000 And the way these bills are written, who knows what's in them?
00:26:39.000 I mean, look, the system is sick. 0.95
00:26:43.000 The FBI is sick. 0.96
00:26:45.000 The way CDC is operated is sick.
00:26:48.000 And frankly, the way the Congress right now, and I hate to say it, but a significant part of the Senate Republican leadership is part of that process.
00:26:57.000 I mean, they don't represent the American people.
00:26:59.000 They don't represent the Republicans who elect them.
00:27:02.000 They just think it's their power and they can do what they want to.
00:27:05.000 And I say this very sadly.
00:27:06.000 I mean, I've been actively involved, as you know, a long time.
00:27:09.000 And I think the system is worse today than any point in my lifetime.
00:27:13.000 And so, Mr. Speaker, this breeds cynicism, disdain, and a lot of negativity.
00:27:20.000 And Senator McConnell believes you should only run negative campaigns.
00:27:25.000 Well, he's totally wrong.
00:27:27.000 And I said that to him personally.
00:27:29.000 I said it publicly.
00:27:31.000 Look at the Senate record of losing races they should have won.
00:27:35.000 And then look at what the House Republicans have gained seats two elections in a row.
00:27:40.000 They've recruited people.
00:27:41.000 They've gone out.
00:27:42.000 They ran on a commitment to America.
00:27:44.000 I think they probably could have done a somewhat better job of communicating it.
00:27:47.000 But you go to commitment to America.com, there are 150 positive ideas.
00:27:53.000 You go to McConnell's site.
00:27:55.000 It's not.
00:27:56.000 I don't think he has a site.
00:27:57.000 No, but instead, he's so focused on raising a bunch of money and then supporting people like Lisa Murkowski and not even supporting people like Herschel.
00:28:07.000 I mean, Herschel was not just an electable candidate, but he should be a U.S. Senator.
00:28:10.000 He should be.
00:28:11.000 Well, Blake Masters should be a U.S. Senator from here.
00:28:14.000 That's exactly right.
00:28:16.000 You know, and it was McConnell's team who pulled out in the middle of October and sent the signal, this guy's going to lose, don't help him.
00:28:23.000 Well, he came close enough that maybe if McConnell had been aggressively for him, he would have won.
00:28:29.000 And you can go around the country and see what he said.
00:28:32.000 McConnell spent $4 million against the Republican nominee in New Hampshire.
00:28:36.000 Don Bullbick.
00:28:37.000 Against the Republican.
00:28:38.000 I mean, I thought the idea was to give money to McConnell to help elect Republicans, not to help defeat Republicans.
00:28:44.000 I have sadly concluded that I think it's fair to say I am no longer a fan of Senator McConnell, and I don't understand what he's doing, and I don't understand why he thinks he has the power to do this except by sheer raw power.
00:29:00.000 Yeah, and that's, I want to explore that with you.
00:29:02.000 We only have a couple seconds here, though.
00:29:04.000 Does he just want to be leader, whether it's minority or majority?
00:29:07.000 Is that basically where he's at?
00:29:09.000 I think he'd rather be the minority leader than one member of a majority. 0.95
00:29:14.000 That's really sick.
00:29:15.000 I got to be honest.
00:29:16.000 I mean, the country's falling apart.
00:29:17.000 Look, it's understandable, and history's filled with people who serve themselves instead of their country, but it's tragic for the country to have a Republican leader who clearly is not a Republican leader.
00:29:32.000 Mr. Speaker, there is a fervent and excited, still MAGA Trump energy.
00:29:41.000 However, talking to some people here, they're saying, I really want to see Trump get back to the Trump of 2016 or, you know, the Trump that would talk about the open border, you know, kind of a little bit of confusion on this NFT announcement.
00:29:56.000 Mr. Speaker, help me make sense of this as someone who is kind of the philosopher of the conservative movement who also understands Trump rally well.
00:30:03.000 Well, let me say, first of all, anybody who's not been here, this is an amazing turnout.
00:30:08.000 Oh, thank you.
00:30:09.000 And you should feel like this is a historic event here in Phoenix.
00:30:13.000 So I'm honored to be part of it.
00:30:14.000 Look, I can't say this too directly.
00:30:20.000 If President Trump would focus on being the leader of the American people and drop every other thing, he'd be 20 times stronger.
00:30:30.000 Yes.
00:30:31.000 Every time he gets off message, he weakens himself.
00:30:35.000 He took what was potentially an unchallengeable position and has turned it into a race.
00:30:42.000 I mean, whether it's DeSantis or somebody else, there will be a race for the nomination.
00:30:46.000 And that would not have been true if Trump had been focused.
00:30:50.000 But every time he does something like these NFT cards that are, you don't want to see a president of the United States looking like he's part of some kind of program.
00:31:01.000 Yes, well, and also, but the lead-up was, I think, what he said a major announcement, right?
00:31:06.000 And what's so upsetting to me is he actually sent out a video that day about big tech that was amazing about what he would do to rein in big tech from a policy standpoint.
00:31:16.000 He had a huge win, and it was overshadowed by...
00:31:19.000 Well, and this is a major problem that he's had for the last couple years, that he does five really smart things in a row, and then he manages to do something which overwhelms them.
00:31:31.000 And so, of course, all of his enemies in the media skip the five really good things and magnify the one bad thing.
00:31:38.000 But I think it has eroded his support.
00:31:41.000 A good friend of mine said to me, my heart is with Trump and my head hopes he won't run.
00:31:46.000 And that's something that Trump should take very seriously.
00:31:48.000 That he has a lot of people out here who know he changed history.
00:31:52.000 He could change history again.
00:31:54.000 But he's not going to change history if he doesn't calm down, slow down, and focus on it.
00:31:59.000 And my love and support for Trump remains the same.
00:31:59.000 Yes.
00:32:02.000 And I know the grassroots, but there is chatter of, we love you so much.
00:32:07.000 We want to see you excellent.
00:32:09.000 Right?
00:32:10.000 We want to see you in stride.
00:32:11.000 And I think the grassroots understand that what's at stake here isn't Donald Trump.
00:32:15.000 What's at stake here is America.
00:32:17.000 Yes.
00:32:18.000 And they want to have a leader who rises to the occasion of leading 330 million free people to the kind of future we could have with good leadership.
00:32:28.000 And I think that's why they're particularly hurt when he falls below that standard.
00:32:33.000 And I'm not saying anything to you that I haven't communicated with him for six years.
00:32:39.000 No, and it's also just from a perspective of we want to see the fullest potential reached.
00:32:46.000 Because in 2016, interestingly, after the Billy Bush tapes, he actually hit a stride for 28 days there where he told all the consultants, get out of the room, and he was talking about the border trade deals, the kind of hollowing out of America, and it resonated in a very powerful way.
00:33:04.000 Look, Elon Musk, by unveiling all the Twitter stuff, has given Trump enough material for three weeks of speeches.
00:33:12.000 Yes.
00:33:12.000 I mean, if he would just relax, you know, Biden does something at least once a week that would legitimately create a Trump speech.
00:33:20.000 If Trump would rise to who he's capable of being, he would both be the nominee and win the presidency.
00:33:26.000 But if he doesn't rise to that, there will be a point next year, I think, where people who love his policies and would like him to be the person he was are going to say, gee, you know, I got to really think about this.
00:33:38.000 I think that's legitimate.
00:33:38.000 It's a race.
00:33:40.000 And I think that if people say it's automatic, I don't think they're looking at it honestly or correctly.
00:33:44.000 And that's without even a serious, you know, actually no contender or serious contender in that way.
00:33:49.000 But, you know, Mr. Speaker, I want to kind of focus on one element of this, which I find to be very interesting, which is regardless of who the candidate is, we have to build the machinery.
00:34:00.000 That's right.
00:34:01.000 And you went on television, you said it's time for us to embrace in-person early voting.
00:34:06.000 Yes, secure the process.
00:34:07.000 I'll be honest, I'm very skeptical of that, but I do think it's necessary because here in Maricopa County, you just can't tell everybody to show up on election day.
00:34:15.000 They sabotage or ambush the process that way.
00:34:17.000 Well, I still don't understand Maricopa County because apparently there are like 25,000 ballots they can't validate.
00:34:23.000 That's correct.
00:34:25.000 That strikes me as a problem.
00:34:28.000 I mean, but I have to tell you, my very first election, I dropped out of college in 1964.
00:34:33.000 I ran a campaign in North Georgia.
00:34:35.000 And on election day, I have a presidential election.
00:34:37.000 On election day, the Forsyth County clerk decided they wouldn't count the votes.
00:34:43.000 And I called him and I said, you got to count the votes.
00:34:45.000 This is a presidential said, no.
00:34:46.000 He said, my folks are all tired.
00:34:48.000 I have sent them home to have dinner with their family.
00:34:51.000 And we'll count the votes in the morning.
00:34:53.000 And I said, I'm going to come over there.
00:34:55.000 You can't do this.
00:34:55.000 He said, I wish you'd come over.
00:34:57.000 I've heard a lot about you.
00:34:58.000 And my cousin, the sheriff, has a nice place you can stay overnight.
00:35:01.000 And in the morning, you can be with us when we count the votes.
00:35:04.000 Now, that was my introduction to Maricopa County in Forsyth County.
00:35:10.000 And so that if we don't first obviously fix the problem, but also expand the window that our voters can participate.
00:35:20.000 We've got to look.
00:35:21.000 This is like in the olden days when they invented the forward pass, teams that said, you know, I just don't want to do that figured out they weren't going to win.
00:35:30.000 And so they had to learn to do it.
00:35:32.000 And I think we're in a situation where I personally think early voting is a big problem.
00:35:38.000 I think because you now have like five or six weeks.
00:35:41.000 That's correct.
00:35:42.000 It's voting season, more than voting months.
00:35:44.000 That's right.
00:35:45.000 And I think that's wrong for the country.
00:35:47.000 But as long as it's true, we have to be prepared to be competitive if we intend to win.
00:35:53.000 And frankly, because of the Senate races and because our expectations, and I was one of them, were so high, we're more disappointed than we should be.
00:36:02.000 You look at Florida, you look at Ohio, you look at Iowa, you look at Texas.
00:36:06.000 Huge victories.
00:36:07.000 North Carolina was size.
00:36:08.000 North Carolina was huge.
00:36:10.000 And then you look at we did pick up control of the House finally.
00:36:13.000 So you have places where we're gaining ground, and you look at state legislatures.
00:36:19.000 There are a lot of reasons to believe that, and since the election, you've had a number of Democrats switch and become Republican, city councilmen, state senators, et cetera.
00:36:28.000 So I'm an optimist in the long run.
00:36:31.000 The American people are smarter than the elites, and the American people ultimately know the current system isn't going to work and has to be changed.
00:36:40.000 I totally agree.
00:36:41.000 And my closing frustration is the country is far more conservative and Republican than is currently being reflected in election totals.
00:36:50.000 People can go to America's NewMajorityProject.com.
00:36:54.000 We have there tons of data.
00:36:57.000 One example: 84% of Americans believe parents have the right to know what's being taught their children.
00:37:03.000 84% of Republicans would have ran on that.
00:37:06.000 More, we would have won more.
00:37:07.000 Mr. Speaker, thank you so much.
00:37:08.000 Thanks for being here.
00:37:12.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
00:37:13.000 Email me your thoughts as always: freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:37:16.000 Thank you so much for listening, and God bless.
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