The Charlie Kirk Show - Live with Pastor Rob McCoy in Newbury Park

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00:00:34.000 It's a conversation with my pastor, Rob McCoy, from Calvary Chapel Godspeak in Newbury Park, California.

00:00:41.000 We chat for a little bit, and then I open it up for questions from the audience.

00:00:45.000 Email me your thoughts as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

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00:00:51.000 Buckle up, everybody.

00:00:52.000 Here we go.

00:00:53.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.

00:00:54.000 Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campuses.

00:00:57.000 I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk.

00:01:00.000 Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks.

00:01:03.000 I want to thank Charlie.

00:01:04.000 He's an incredible guy.

00:01:05.000 His spirit, his love of this country.

00:01:07.000 He's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.

00:01:14.000 We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.

00:01:22.000 That's why we are here.

00:01:26.000 Thank you, everybody.

00:01:29.000 I wanted to also add in regards to what Pastor Rick was sharing about The Guardian.

00:01:34.000 First of all, I want to welcome, now this is a for-profit newspaper, but to their credit, they show up, they come to the sanctuary, they get the story, and the Ventura County stars here, Tom Kiskin and the photographer, and I just want to say thank you for coming.

00:01:48.000 God bless you guys.

00:01:49.000 You can clap, please.

00:01:58.000 A local newspaper that doesn't show up or come to our place, they're upset.

00:02:02.000 They think that we run the Guardian newspaper.

00:02:04.000 We don't.

00:02:05.000 This is independently operated, and we have the chance to know Amy.

00:02:09.000 I'm blessed by her.

00:02:11.000 And when they get advertisers, they have a concerted effort to go after the advertisers of the Guardian and attack them.

00:02:20.000 So we're just going to, if you want to advertise in your brave, great.

00:02:23.000 There's some that don't mind it.

00:02:24.000 But we're going to make it a self-supporting paper, meaning you just $10 a month, use that QR code.

00:02:31.000 We'll have a newspaper that isn't beholden to profit, but truth.

00:02:36.000 Amen.

00:02:40.000 I wanted to say thank you to all the folks that showed up.

00:02:43.000 We heard that Antifa was coming, and they didn't because they were sworn by all of you.

00:02:48.000 And I just am so blessed by you.

00:02:50.000 So congratulations.

00:02:54.000 It was your welcome.

00:02:55.000 It was bizarre.

00:02:56.000 I love these signs.

00:02:57.000 And I saw some driving down the street.

00:03:00.000 I'm not used to that.

00:03:01.000 Usually it's the opposite.

00:03:03.000 And it was amazing.

00:03:05.000 I just want to say there are so many friends here.

00:03:08.000 And Rob, you do such an amazing job.

00:03:11.000 And you should be really thanked for your courage and for your stands, Rob, truly.

00:03:17.000 And the whole staff here, Pastor Rick at Godspeak.

00:03:21.000 I see the Bondarancos here.

00:03:24.000 I see Pastor James and Pastor Greg and Doug and so many friends here.

00:03:28.000 It's like coming home.

00:03:29.000 And I make a point to come here at least once a year.

00:03:32.000 It's a crazy schedule, but you really have been so generous and supportive of Turning Point USA, of our podcast, of our program.

00:03:40.000 And you guys know we've been in the trenches the last year.

00:03:42.000 We're going to update you on that, of the good, the bad, and the ugly.

00:03:46.000 But understand the impact of this church.

00:03:49.000 The prayers, the ties, the offerings, the energy, the enthusiasm.

00:03:54.000 It is exported all across the country.

00:03:56.000 And it's making a very serious and significant difference.

00:03:59.000 So thank you, and God bless you guys.

00:04:07.000 Charlie, you brought up the Bondarenkos in the audience, and I never want to miss the opportunity to acknowledge Joseph Bondarenko.

00:04:14.000 He spent 10 years in a Soviet gulag, 23 hours a day in solitary confinement for being a preacher during the Soviet era.

00:04:23.000 And from the Ukraine and the Bondarenko family, everyone is confused about the Ukraine, and we're sending billions of dollars to the Ukraine.

00:04:36.000 Germany sending, I mean, what's going on there?

00:04:38.000 Do you have any insight on that?

00:04:40.000 I got a couple of thoughts.

00:04:42.000 I'm here to tee it up tonight.

00:04:44.000 Yeah, I mean, my opinions are actually rather heterodox on this.

00:04:49.000 However, whenever I say this, I get the warmest emails from Ukrainians telling me that I'm actually right over the target. 1.00

00:04:56.000 It's really weird, actually, that you would think it would be the opposite.

00:05:00.000 Look, I make it very clear from the outset, Putin should not have invaded Ukraine.

00:05:04.000 It's wrong to invade a smaller, weaker country. 0.64

00:05:06.000 Sovereign nation.

00:05:07.000 But Zelensky is not a good person, and we should say that out loud.

00:05:12.000 And if you don't believe me, talk to the people that are actually serving on the front lines there.

00:05:20.000 And so two things can be simultaneously true.

00:05:23.000 I am someone who, one of my earliest childhood memories was 9-11.

00:05:28.000 We were all repulsed by that.

00:05:30.000 And I think all of us were also very disturbed at the money, the time, the treasure, and the lives that were lost, not really a clear goal that came out of the quagmire in the Middle East. 0.95

00:05:40.000 I'm not a fan of endless wars.

00:05:42.000 I think great countries stop being great when they get involved in endless wars.

00:05:46.000 History tells us that very clearly, repeatedly.

00:05:50.000 And while all those things being very clear, I have a series of very short, simple questions that the American ruling class dodge at every single senators that come on my show.

00:06:03.000 I just ask, I say, what does success look like?

00:06:06.000 What are you willing to do to get to that line of success?

00:06:09.000 And will you ever be willing to disengage if all of a sudden the stakes get too high or you get too close to failure?

00:06:16.000 Those three questions are what adults ask before you do anything meaningful.

00:06:21.000 Buy a piece of property, get married, buy a car, anything.

00:06:25.000 We have not asked that question and got an answer on any of those.

00:06:28.000 Okay, so right now, what does success look like?

00:06:30.000 You get answers all across the board.

00:06:32.000 And usually you get platitudes from our leaders.

00:06:35.000 They say, well, the success is to support the Ukrainian people.

00:06:38.000 I mean, they're worthy of success, support.

00:06:38.000 I agree.

00:06:41.000 But what does success look like?

00:06:42.000 So Lindsey Graham says success is driving Russians completely out of Ukraine. 1.00

00:06:48.000 That's really stupid. 0.99

00:06:50.000 Let me be very clear. 1.00

00:06:51.000 That's not going to happen.

00:06:52.000 Eastern Ukraine wants to be part of Russia.

00:06:55.000 They speak Russia.

00:06:56.000 They're ethnically Russian.

00:06:57.000 They want to be part of Russia. 0.87

00:06:59.000 You might not like that.

00:07:00.000 Washington, D.C. might not like that.

00:07:01.000 They've repeatedly said they'd much rather be under the Russian Federation than under Zelensky.

00:07:06.000 But Washington, D.C. says, no, no, no, we know better than you.

00:07:08.000 Okay, then what are you willing to do to spend?

00:07:10.000 We've spent $100 billion so far.

00:07:13.000 $100 billion.

00:07:14.000 And in fact, we're now sending the most sophisticated weaponry.

00:07:18.000 Germany says that we are in an all-out hot war with Russia.

00:07:22.000 That's a NATO member telling you that your son or daughter might have to be drafted sometime soon.

00:07:28.000 That's what it is.

00:07:29.000 You read Article 6 in NATO.

00:07:31.000 A NATO member says we're in a current war.

00:07:33.000 That means one is attacked.

00:07:34.000 We're all attacked.

00:07:35.000 I don't know about you, but I'm not exactly enthusiastic about sending our best and our brightest and our youngest and our most, with the highest potential into a hot war with a nuclear powered nation that should, by the way, be a soft ally in the fight against the real threat, the Chinese Communist Party, that is legitimately taking over the world. 0.97

00:07:56.000 And The third point that I want to make, will the American ruling class ever say, hold on, maybe this is not a good idea?

00:08:05.000 And no, because if you know anything about how the American ruling class operates, is that they operate with hyper-aggression, never apologizing or admitting a failure ever.

00:08:17.000 And it's always your fault.

00:08:19.000 Always your fault.

00:08:20.000 It's the middle Americans' fault. 1.00

00:08:21.000 It's your fault that your jobs got shipped overseas to China.

00:08:25.000 It's your fault that you didn't take the vaccine.

00:08:28.000 It's always the American people's fault. 0.99

00:08:30.000 And so I take a step back, and I don't trust the people in charge, nor should you after the last couple of years.

00:08:36.000 And I certainly don't trust the very same American foreign policy establishment that was unable to have success in Libya, in Syria, in Iraq, in Afghanistan, in every theater they engage in themselves.

00:08:48.000 And in fact, I think they're getting us closer to a state of permanent conflict with, again, let me repeat this.

00:08:54.000 Putin is not a good person.

00:08:55.000 I don't think highly of him. 0.62

00:08:56.000 I think that he should be condemned for his actions.

00:08:59.000 But sometimes in geopolitics, you have to be willing to have temporary partnerships against the greater evil.

00:09:06.000 And the greater evil is not a little bit, it's by far the CCP's conquest of the Western world and the modern world.

00:09:13.000 So while the CCP is dumping fentanyl into our schools, spying on your kids via TikTok, dumping steel and solar panels, involved in hyper-sophisticated technological war, we're worried about an 800-year family dispute over an arbitrary border 5,000 miles away because Lindsey Graham tells us, I'm sorry, pal, you've been wrong about everything the last 20 years.

00:09:35.000 I don't care the way you think I should.

00:09:37.000 In fact, we should not send another dime.

00:09:38.000 We should just send humanitarian assistance.

00:09:40.000 And guess what?

00:09:41.000 When was the last time, I'll close with this.

00:09:44.000 When was the last time you heard anybody say we're close to peace?

00:09:48.000 Have you noticed that?

00:09:49.000 Nobody on television says, here's what it's going to take for peace.

00:09:53.000 In a mature and adult civilization, when there's a hot war with very high stakes with NATO member countries, shouldn't there be negotiations going on all the time?

00:10:02.000 No, it seems as if our foreign policy establishment does not want peace.

00:10:06.000 They want war.

00:10:07.000 They want permanent war that can make the defense contractors a lot of money and continue in this perpetual quagmire.

00:10:13.000 And guess what?

00:10:14.000 They transitioned from one war to the other, from Afghanistan into Ukraine.

00:10:18.000 And I don't know where all the anti-war voices on the left have gone.

00:10:21.000 They've seem to have disappeared.

00:10:23.000 But I see very clearly what they're trying to do.

00:10:25.000 They're trying to make us care more about the invasion of a foreign country, which, by the way, final point, our own country is being invaded every single day. 0.51

00:10:42.000 I was so into what you were talking about.

00:10:44.000 I forgot that I'm up here with you.

00:10:49.000 Just have a better seat.

00:10:53.000 Charlie, we just had the privilege to be with some pastors, especially some that stood in defiance of the tyranny of Governor Nussalini there in L.A. County.

00:11:03.000 We had some up in Ojai, which, you know, that's no conservative bastion up there.

00:11:07.000 And they came here tonight.

00:11:09.000 They traveled a distance for themselves.

00:11:10.000 And they're committed to liberty.

00:11:14.000 And they understand liberty is not man's idea.

00:11:16.000 It's God's idea.

00:11:17.000 And we had that conversation back there.

00:11:19.000 And Pastor James Cadiz and Pastor Greg Denham, some of the insights were just profound.

00:11:27.000 And you shared about a commentary in Genesis.

00:11:31.000 Can you share with the folks that?

00:11:33.000 Because I was back there captivated listening to all you guys share.

00:11:38.000 Sure.

00:11:38.000 Thank you, Rob.

00:11:39.000 That's kind.

00:11:40.000 So a couple of thoughts.

00:11:41.000 First, I came across an author by the name of Tom Holland, who's actually a secular writer, but he's very fair.

00:11:48.000 And he just, he makes an argument, looking at history very honestly, that what we consider to be common sense in the West is anything but common sense, right?

00:11:58.000 So I could list off five things and someone in secular society would say, oh, yeah, every society understands that.

00:12:03.000 For example, not touching children or taking advantage of them, giving money and charity to the poor, natural rights, the fact that the strong should protect the weak.

00:12:12.000 I could go through one after the other.

00:12:14.000 And the argument he makes is that in the West, we are actually inheritors of a Christian inheritance.

00:12:19.000 That without a biblical construct, the world does not know these things as quote-unquote common sense.

00:12:24.000 And you don't need any more evidence than what you see happening in the underdeveloped world or in the Islamic world or in the hypersecular world.

00:12:33.000 If you do not have codes or customs that are put in place, it is almost the norm to take advantage of children.

00:12:39.000 Look what happening in America right now, where they're going after children with this incredibly insidious transgender ideology with medical mutilation or the chemical castration of children. 1.00

00:12:50.000 The idea that children should be protected by adults is a uniquely Christian idea.

00:12:56.000 And no one really has the courage to say that out loud.

00:12:58.000 But going back even further, what I said previously and understanding that, it's if you want to know what the left is trying to achieve, they're trying to obliterate many of the distinctions that are laid out in the first 11 books of Genesis.

00:13:11.000 So I'm having a great, because, yeah, I'm sorry, first 11 chapters of Genesis.

00:13:15.000 Thank you.

00:13:16.000 So I have the opportunity, and you guys should do it too if you have too much free time on your hands like I do.

00:13:21.000 Back in 1992, Dennis Prager, who I adore, taught the entire Torah.

00:13:27.000 It's 400 hours.

00:13:29.000 It's well worth it.

00:13:30.000 It's way even deeper than his rational Bible.

00:13:33.000 I actually think it's easier to listen to and work through.

00:13:35.000 I can't recommend it highly enough.

00:13:38.000 And I'm learning so much.

00:13:39.000 So I'm studying the Torah via him 30 years ago.

00:13:42.000 This shows the eternal promise of the scriptures.

00:13:42.000 You know what's so amazing, though?

00:13:45.000 What he's saying 30 years ago is just as applicable today as it was then because humans don't change.

00:13:52.000 And the truths are eternal.

00:13:54.000 300 years from now, someone will be able to listen to this.

00:13:56.000 Like, oh, yeah, of course, of course, of course.

00:13:58.000 And so one of the arguments that is very clear in the Torah, the first five books of the Bible and the first 11 chapters of Genesis, is distinctions.

00:14:07.000 So if there's just one way you want to describe why the Bible is different than any other religious book, it's that it's very clear about distinctions and maintaining those distinctions.

00:14:17.000 So a distinction, for example, is the distinction between God and man, that we are not God and there is a God.

00:14:23.000 Pretty simple.

00:14:24.000 Not everyone necessarily believes that.

00:14:26.000 Distinction between man and woman, that man and woman are different. 0.92

00:14:29.000 Distinction between man and nature.

00:14:30.000 What is man?

00:14:31.000 Well, man is made in the image of God.

00:14:32.000 What is nature?

00:14:33.000 Nature is there for us.

00:14:35.000 We're not there to worship nature.

00:14:37.000 We're not there to serve nature.

00:14:39.000 We're there to actually use nature to help man.

00:14:41.000 That is completely heretical to the environmentalist religion that is all over our schools right now.

00:14:47.000 The Bible is very clear about that.

00:14:49.000 The distinction between good and evil, the distinction between adult and child.

00:14:53.000 These distinctions are there because distinctions actually make you free.

00:14:57.000 And the law is supposed to honor those distinctions to understand our broken human nature so we can flourish and glorify God.

00:15:04.000 Everything the American left is trying to do right now is try to destroy those distinctions, one at a time and almost simultaneously.

00:15:12.000 That there is no good and evil, that you could do whatever is right in your own eyes.

00:15:15.000 That there is really no difference between man and woman.

00:15:18.000 That there is no difference between man and nature.

00:15:21.000 In fact, no, we must be subservient to nature.

00:15:24.000 And you can just go through the first 11 books of Genesis and you'll see very clearly that those distinctions, the core canon of our existence, is predicated on us honoring those distinctions and teaching them and defending them.

00:15:36.000 But do you know what?

00:15:37.000 It takes courageous people to defend those distinctions because the enemy and the world wants to do everything it possibly can to shred them.

00:15:44.000 Let's just take one of those very clearly that's happening in this community and across the country.

00:15:49.000 The distinction between man and woman.

00:15:51.000 What a very simple biological distinction that you could be taught now that there is no difference, man and woman, and you could be whatever you want to be.

00:16:00.000 What an amazing agent of chaos the enemy is to get us into a place of permanent discord and confusion.

00:16:08.000 And I mean, it's such a silly idea that you have to go to college to believe it, which, by the way, check out my latest book.

00:16:14.000 It's great.

00:16:15.000 Gift of any amount you could get at college scam outside.

00:16:18.000 But what are the ramifications of this?

00:16:20.000 You know, we always say, well, you know, it's going to give you chaos temporarily.

00:16:25.000 The end game is not chaos.

00:16:27.000 The end game is what comes after chaos, which is tyranny and control.

00:16:31.000 Chaos is a means to the end.

00:16:33.000 They don't want you to live in chaos.

00:16:34.000 They want to justify a totalitarian regime that then can take over because they've decided and they've been able to destroy what we call a free society.

00:16:43.000 And so I've really been pouring over what I think far too many pastors do not teach, which is Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy, which, if you look at the founding fathers, the founding fathers cited the book of Deuteronomy more than any other source in writing the Declaration of Independence, the Federalist Papers, and the Constitution.

00:17:02.000 And so did Jesus.

00:17:03.000 He quoted Deuteronomy more than any other book.

00:17:05.000 And Jesus, when Jesus was alive, and it's still the same today, the most holy thing a Jew can do is to study the Torah.

00:17:13.000 So our Lord and Savior, God in flesh, loved the first five books of the Bible.

00:17:20.000 And yet, so many pastors across the country intentionally avoid it and tell us that the first five books of the Bible are irrelevant.

00:17:28.000 Andy Stanley, who's a pastor in Georgia, says that we shouldn't take seriously the first five books of the Bible, that Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Deuteronomy, are irrelevant and not worthy of study or appreciation.

00:17:43.000 And so as we try to look at this time of chaos and confusion, which is widespread in our nation, I find it so comforting personally to go back to that these are eternal fights, that these are fights that predate us and they're going to be here long past us.

00:17:57.000 But the order that can be restored is very clear, which is to establish the distinctions and to protect them, but it takes courage to do so.

00:18:13.000 Now, for those of you who call God speak home, I want you to forget everything Charlie just said because I'll be preaching that the next Sunday.

00:18:20.000 You could take it.

00:18:21.000 Yeah.

00:18:22.000 Yeah.

00:18:24.000 You know, we've had the privilege to know Vishnal Magnawald.

00:18:27.000 He's amazing.

00:18:28.000 And his comment that when he had come from India and he's driving through Quaker Pennsylvania and he sees a stand that says, you know, free, no, milk, $5.

00:18:38.000 Just leave the money in the box.

00:18:40.000 He said, if that was India, the box would be gone, the money would be gone, the milk would be gone, and so would your cow. 0.99

00:18:45.000 And we just take that for granted as though man is innately good.

00:18:49.000 We're not.

00:18:49.000 It's the principles established by our founders.

00:18:54.000 Charlie, when Pastor James Cadiz had shared about this idea of John 1 and Genesis 1, bridge that for us because that was profound.

00:19:04.000 And also this idea of politics, when Pastor Greg had talked about, you know, the concept that you share from Aristotle that politics is the highest form of community because it combines morality with sociability.

00:19:21.000 But, you know, most people say poly, meaning many ticks, meaning blood-sucking parasite.

00:19:27.000 They have such a bad understanding of politics. 0.92

00:19:30.000 And one thing I was going to add is: if God didn't intend us to be in politics, he would have never invented marriage.

00:19:35.000 I mean, we have to get along.

00:19:37.000 We have to figure out how to do that.

00:19:38.000 Well, and that's the case for why we should defend heterosexual marriage, by the way, is that marriage needs to be the union of different parts.

00:19:47.000 And so anything that tries to say that marriage should be the same parts is not marriage.

00:19:50.000 It's something else.

00:19:52.000 Certainly is not marriage.

00:19:55.000 It's that it's supposed to intentionally be the union of the distinct.

00:20:00.000 That's what marriage is supposed to be.

00:20:02.000 It's beautiful when you really appreciate it.

00:20:05.000 And obviously, the secular world and far too often the Christian world kind of appeases that.

00:20:10.000 So John 1, it's amazing.

00:20:12.000 It's incredibly deep and it's filled with profundity.

00:20:14.000 In the beginning was the word and the word became flesh and flesh was God became flesh and the flesh became the word was the word became the word was God and the word became flesh.

00:20:23.000 Thank you.

00:20:24.000 And this the idea of word is really the word logos.

00:20:27.000 We could do a whole hour on what logos is and what that means.

00:20:30.000 It could be dialogue, spoken truth, reason.

00:20:32.000 These are all replacement and filler words.

00:20:34.000 But if you kind of put the two creation stories, Genesis 1 and John 1, they're both saying the same thing, which is that spoken truth has incredible importance to our existence.

00:20:44.000 Because if Genesis 1, 26 and 127 is true, which is let us make man in our image, right?

00:20:53.000 Therefore, in God spoke things into existence, right?

00:20:56.000 And God said, let there be light, and God said, let there be expanse, and God said, let there be man.

00:21:02.000 Therefore, in the logos being spoken word, is that our ability to be made in God's image is our ability to speak truth.

00:21:10.000 That's a very big deal.

00:21:12.000 And so you look at that in today's time, and you look at the two creation stories, Genesis 1 and John 1, what is the thing that they're most obsessed with right now? Is making sure you can't speak the truth.

00:21:24.000 In essence, the only way you can challenge lies is to have the courage and the ability to speak truth, to try to go up against it, to challenge it, to dissect it, to cross-examine it.

00:21:35.000 And so I believe we get closer to the divine through actually using the logos.

00:21:41.000 And Jesus did not just say true things.

00:21:43.000 He was the logos.

00:21:44.000 That's what's so amazing, is that he was the truth.

00:21:47.000 He was the embodiment of all things true.

00:21:50.000 Never sinned, never said a faulty word.

00:21:52.000 And so we apply that to our own world and how we're supposed to live out.

00:21:55.000 People say, well, Charlie, you know, I get accused of not being Christ-like.

00:21:59.000 Sometimes that's totally and completely true.

00:22:02.000 But at least what I am attempting to do is I'm trying to speak truth every single day.

00:22:08.000 And if you want to be more like Jesus, that's the most Christ-like thing that you can do, is to speak truth every single day, regardless of the cost or the circumstance or the penalty or the punishment, is to speak truth.

00:22:25.000 And so to be made the image of God, you think about how powerful that is.

00:22:30.000 And if you also just want a little early hat tip to the Trinity, it says in the original Biblical Hebrew, let us make man in the image of God.

00:22:42.000 And in our image, yes.

00:22:44.000 And you think about that.

00:22:45.000 It's interesting because if you read the rabbi commentaries, they don't really know what to make of that.

00:22:50.000 So there's all this kind of folklore.

00:22:52.000 They say, oh, it's God talking to the angels or God talking to the animals.

00:22:56.000 We have a very clear answer.

00:22:57.000 It's the Trinity.

00:22:58.000 And it's kind of a foreshadowing of the fulfillment of this idea of the Trinity.

00:23:04.000 But the thing that how God created was through rational speech and through speaking things into existence.

00:23:12.000 He just said it.

00:23:14.000 And also understanding that when the first five books of Moses were written, it was written when the world was largely pagan.

00:23:21.000 The idea of a monotheistic God that just spoke things and they happened was an unconscionable concept at the time.

00:23:31.000 It was all these polytheistic gods, the God of the sun, the God of the moon, the God of the river, the God of the flowers, the God of the, and this idea that there's one God and omniscient, omnipresent, and is able to speak things into existence, it was a foreign concept.

00:23:46.000 It was hard to wrap your head around it.

00:23:47.000 And it wasn't until the Greeks that they realized that man is significant over all other creation, or even creation itself, over all other distinctive animals.

00:23:55.000 And so they started to celebrate man as being distinct and special.

00:23:59.000 And that's where we get the original language of the scriptures.

00:24:03.000 It's so, because it's the language of the greatest philosophical thinkers of all time: Socrates, Plato, Aristotle.

00:24:08.000 It's just fascinating to me.

00:24:09.000 Epicetus, Marcus Aurelius.

00:24:12.000 Because you can go all day on.

00:24:13.000 I stopped at the ones I knew.

00:24:17.000 Seneca, Zenu, Cicero.

00:24:20.000 I'll go crawl in a hole.

00:24:21.000 Cato the Younger.

00:24:22.000 No.

00:24:22.000 Anyway, sorry.

00:24:23.000 The idea of Elohim, let us make man, Elohim.

00:24:27.000 It's interesting.

00:24:28.000 It's singular plurality and unified diversity where you get the word university.

00:24:32.000 Diverse realms of study for a unified purpose to glorify God.

00:24:37.000 I mean, the name itself is fascinating.

00:24:39.000 And so keep going.

00:24:41.000 I'm getting stretch marks on my brain and I'm digging it.

00:24:43.000 No, but if I were to tell a so I get plenty of emails, Charlie, I'm a Christian.

00:24:48.000 I don't care about politics.

00:24:49.000 It's a waste of time. 0.78

00:24:51.000 And I find that argument silly, obviously.

00:24:53.000 But if you just study the first 11 chapters of Genesis, they're overtly political.

00:24:58.000 It tells you the most important questions: Is there a God and are you him?

00:25:01.000 Nope, but there is a God and you are not him.

00:25:03.000 Okay, got to answer that one.

00:25:04.000 What is man?

00:25:04.000 An image bearer with a soul and a date with eternity.

00:25:07.000 That's a big deal.

00:25:08.000 Is man naturally good or naturally bad?

00:25:11.000 So bad that God had to press the restart button.

00:25:13.000 And the first thing he says after he restarted is like, you know, you guys are really, really bad.

00:25:18.000 He said, he said, man is flawed from the beginning, his heart is wicked.

00:25:22.000 As blunt and as clearly as it could be said.

00:25:24.000 The other question is: what happens when you try to centralize power and you forget about God?

00:25:32.000 Genesis 11.

00:25:34.000 It's a very interesting, almost unusually placed chapter because you have the story of Noah, you have Cain and Abel, then you have Noah.

00:25:42.000 And then it kind of takes this little bit of a detour, which is it's not a story about the Jews.

00:25:49.000 It's kind of just something they observed, which is the people of Babel, Babel being confusion or God confuses.

00:25:56.000 And it's not the tower of Babel, it's the city of Babel.

00:25:59.000 They did build a tower, but it says the city.

00:25:59.000 It's interesting.

00:26:02.000 And they wanted to build something big, but they didn't do it in defiance to God.

00:26:07.000 They just ignored God.

00:26:08.000 We could do it without God.

00:26:09.000 We don't need God.

00:26:11.000 We don't think it's important.

00:26:13.000 And it's the people who eventually, and the next chapter, 12 is God saying to Abram, get up and leave your father's home.

00:26:21.000 Like, this doesn't fit.

00:26:22.000 It's like, what is it?

00:26:22.000 It goes from Genesis 10, perfect line of secession, and then all of a sudden, the story about Babel and then Abram.

00:26:28.000 It's like, where is this?

00:26:29.000 And it's very clear what it is.

00:26:31.000 It was such a powerful story of what happens when you try to do something that ignores God, that is secular, that God will not honor that.

00:26:41.000 It sticks out like a sore thumb intentionally.

00:26:43.000 And boy, is that not the World Economic Forum right now?

00:26:46.000 Is that not the great reset?

00:26:48.000 Right?

00:26:49.000 So you read this biblical story and it's kind of fitting, and all of a sudden, the story, and it's very clear that God will sow confusion in the ranks of man if you do not honor him and if you do not understand the hierarchy and the distinction between God and man.

00:27:04.000 And what is so amazing is the only reason we know about the story of Babel is they had this massive city, and I'm sure they had scrolls, galore, and scholars was this little ragtag Bedouin group of people that later became Jews that saw it happen. 0.72

00:27:24.000 That's the only reason we knew about it, is that they didn't write any texts, they had no record.

00:27:29.000 No, it was just the story of, yeah, these people said that we're going to do this without God, and we're going to build something so high to the heavens, nearly challenge him.

00:27:37.000 And I believe firmly that what many of the architects of the World Economic Forum are doing, one world, one language, one currency, is trying to reunify Babel.

00:27:48.000 And that's a very deep topic.

00:27:50.000 Happy to explain it.

00:27:51.000 But Thomas Jefferson and the Torah both did not like big cities or centralized power.

00:27:59.000 The founding fathers, all they had to do, and they wrote about this, was read Genesis 11 and say, we need checks and balances.

00:28:06.000 We need separation of powers because it's not good for one person or one people to be this clustered, this centralized, with that much power.

00:28:15.000 And I have to hear Christians tell me the Bible doesn't tell you anything about politics. 1.00

00:28:26.000 The idea of doing something apart from God bringing confusion.

00:28:29.000 And I think about that. 0.96

00:28:32.000 You know, we have biological males now dominating female sports. 1.00

00:28:38.000 And I wonder where the feminists are because men now dominate women's sports. 1.00

00:28:42.000 The patriarchy's taken over. 1.00

00:28:44.000 We just have to say we're a woman.

00:28:45.000 This is a super important point, though, because if you take secularism as your dominant worldview, why is that wrong?

00:28:54.000 And you can't answer that question.

00:28:56.000 We can answer it because we believe the strong must protect the weak.

00:29:00.000 It's very simple.

00:29:01.000 We believe in distinction of man and woman. 1.00

00:29:03.000 But the feminists, the reason they haven't spoken out is they have not been able to agree in harmony because from a secular worldview, why is it wrong for someone with power to exploit someone that doesn't have as much? 1.00

00:29:14.000 There's no answer to it. 1.00

00:29:16.000 And they'll fumble their words and they'll say, well, it's because, you know, it's the right thing.

00:29:21.000 But right according to what standard?

00:29:23.000 You mean right according to the inherited Christian tradition that you think is normal and common sense?

00:29:29.000 You see, this is where they all of a sudden are buttressed up against this idea of you could do whatever is right in your own eyes.

00:29:35.000 Right?

00:29:36.000 There is no response to that.

00:29:38.000 And so therefore, this is why the trans thing is so important and you have to keep on fighting on it and you cannot give an inch because it's a perfect example of what ends up happening. 0.98

00:29:46.000 Moral chaos into moral totalitarianism immediately, from one to the other.

00:29:51.000 Starts with moral chaos, right?

00:29:53.000 The original argument was man can be whatever they want. 1.00

00:29:56.000 Men are going to go into female locker rooms and what we'll say, they'll have chaos and blurring of distinctions. 0.97

00:30:00.000 That is all true. 0.99

00:30:01.000 And then what?

00:30:02.000 Then you get people that have power that bully and punish people that don't have as much power.

00:30:09.000 And absent those of us that are able to then protect those that can't protect themselves, you're going to then live in a very perverted form of a tyrannical regime.

00:30:19.000 So with children, it's very simple.

00:30:21.000 There are three types of people in this world.

00:30:22.000 I know you say, Charlie, there's more than three.

00:30:24.000 For this, there's three, okay?

00:30:26.000 There are infants, there are protectors of infants, and there are predators.

00:30:31.000 It's that simple.

00:30:32.000 You're one of those three people.

00:30:34.000 The infants are people.

00:30:36.000 We know who they are, right?

00:30:37.000 Sometimes they could be 25, sometimes they could be 45, sometimes they could be eight, right?

00:30:43.000 Then there's the protector of infants.

00:30:46.000 This is a new category that is uniquely Western.

00:30:50.000 Most civilizations had zero understanding as to why children should be protected.

00:30:56.000 If you read your Bible, I guarantee you one of the things you remember most is the harsh, clear teaching of Jesus about not touching children.

00:31:05.000 Right?

00:31:06.000 One of the harshest penalties communicated by our Lord and Savior is what happens if you go after children.

00:31:12.000 But then there's predators.

00:31:13.000 There have always been predators and there will always be predators.

00:31:16.000 In Greek times, boys were for pleasure and women were for childmaking. 1.00

00:31:22.000 In the Aztecs, the Mayans, the Sumerians, the river civilizations, children were for sacrifice. 0.90

00:31:30.000 What does the Torah have to say about that?

00:31:32.000 A lot.

00:31:34.000 God puts Abraham to the test.

00:31:37.000 That's the first thing it says.

00:31:38.000 You have to understand: God never intended to allow the sacrifice to be fulfilled.

00:31:42.000 Okay?

00:31:43.000 It's very important.

00:31:44.000 It's some Christians like, well, God wanted Abraham.

00:31:46.000 He never, the first thing it says is, God put Abraham to the test.

00:31:50.000 Okay.

00:31:51.000 And then he says right there very clearly, child sacrifice is wrong.

00:31:57.000 He also told the servants, the boy and I will return.

00:32:00.000 Yes.

00:32:01.000 And there is, yes, it is an interesting commentary on that.

00:32:06.000 But basically, maybe Abraham knew at his core that he was being tested.

00:32:10.000 That's how I read it.

00:32:11.000 But why is that important?

00:32:12.000 That's the first ancient document that explicitly says you do not get closer to God by killing your young.

00:32:20.000 That's a big deal.

00:32:22.000 Every other tradition was about killing your young to try to win the favors of the gods.

00:32:27.000 Temples that still existed today in Central and South America erected just for that purpose.

00:32:34.000 And so now you fast forward a day.

00:32:35.000 You're like, oh, that doesn't apply to me today.

00:32:37.000 It does not apply today.

00:32:38.000 Well, okay, a million abortions a year.

00:32:40.000 Let's put that aside.

00:32:41.000 But also with infants, protectors of infants, and predators.

00:32:46.000 If the protectors of infants are afraid to be calling bad names, bigots, homophobes, or whatever, nothing will stop the predators from going after the infants.

00:32:54.000 And that is the great struggle of our time.

00:32:56.000 It's the fuel behind the parents' party.

00:32:58.000 It's the fuel behind the sexualization of our curriculum.

00:33:01.000 It is the fuel behind CRT, behind pornography in our schools, behind all of these things.

00:33:06.000 Is what will the people that are tasked to protect infants do against the predators?

00:33:12.000 I can say this: as a new father, I want to go Old Testament on these people, and I don't care what they call me.

00:33:28.000 Yeah, let me just kind of one more thing before we do questions.

00:33:31.000 I just want to, I've been super blessed by diving back into Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy.

00:33:37.000 I don't think enough Christians have had really the time to do that as much.

00:33:41.000 Rob has taught through it really well, especially the civic and moral implications.

00:33:45.000 Our Lord and Savior loved the Torah.

00:33:48.000 And I think you'll be blessed.

00:33:49.000 I have to give him a shout out.

00:33:50.000 He's the best.

00:33:51.000 Dennis Prager has done unbelievable work that I think is just as applicable to Jews as it is to Christians.

00:33:57.000 And I see it in such clear detail.

00:34:00.000 Like, wow, the country that I love, the country that I fight for every day, was birthed out of an appreciation for the books that so many American churches say they're not worthy of study.

00:34:11.000 That's really interesting, isn't it?

00:34:12.000 When I hear a pastor say that I don't want to get involved in politics, I'm like, that's someone that has not really studied Leviticus or Deuteronomy.

00:34:21.000 It's very clear.

00:34:22.000 Okay, let's do some questions.

00:34:23.000 All right.

00:34:24.000 Oh, here we go.

00:34:26.000 We won't make him walk all the way around.

00:34:28.000 Be nice.

00:34:29.000 We'll meet you halfway.

00:34:30.000 Yeah.

00:34:32.000 I grew up in this country in the 1950s.

00:34:35.000 What we were taught in school was patriotism, the things that you're talking about.

00:34:39.000 Okay.

00:34:40.000 That's changed a lot.

00:34:42.000 Do you feel that God is perhaps not as favorable towards the United States as he once was because we have deviated from our founding fathers and those precepts?

00:34:55.000 It's a great question.

00:34:57.000 The answer, yeah, that was great.

00:35:03.000 There is definitely a lot of evidence to show that.

00:35:06.000 I hesitate to answer it explicitly because I think a blunt answer can and will create cynicism.

00:35:15.000 If I were to say, you know what, God's favor is no longer on this nation, then you'd say, What is the meaning of fighting anymore?

00:35:23.000 Why even fight if I think that it's over?

00:35:25.000 Look, a couple things.

00:35:27.000 Removing prayer in schools, removing Bible study, the secularization of society, all these things I think might be the case. 0.92

00:35:35.000 But the most operative way I can answer it is, what does that mean for me?

00:35:40.000 And for me, it means I have to fight harder to try to create a new awakening, a new revival, and movement around patriotism and goodness and truth and virtue and beauty.

00:35:52.000 I'm afraid I hear far too often, and I get a lot of these emails, Charlie, America is over with.

00:35:57.000 God has turned his back on this nation.

00:35:59.000 Why are you fighting?

00:36:00.000 Just give up.

00:36:02.000 I actually find that to be a morally evil argument.

00:36:06.000 As Christians, you are not allowed to engage in surrender or cynicism.

00:36:12.000 That is a secular belief to be cynical.

00:36:14.000 You must be hopeful, optimistic, yes, realistic, but also courageous in your action always.

00:36:27.000 Hi, Charlie.

00:36:28.000 I got to tell you, I was born and raised in California.

00:36:32.000 You know, being the age I am, I'm 29.

00:36:34.000 It's really hard being out here.

00:36:37.000 What do you recommend to fight against just all the leftism that we see from just the people we meet to the friends that we have?

00:36:44.000 How do we fight back?

00:36:45.000 It's tough out here.

00:36:47.000 Yeah, it is.

00:36:48.000 And look, I want to say some of the hardest fighters in the country are right here in California.

00:36:53.000 I have so much respect for all of you.

00:36:54.000 It's incredible.

00:36:56.000 And I want it to stay that way.

00:36:59.000 Look, I get asked about California all the time.

00:37:02.000 We are now, I live in Arizona.

00:37:04.000 We are the victims of your best and brightest moving to Scottsdale.

00:37:08.000 And I don't think it's made this place any better or are any better.

00:37:14.000 I don't know who's feeling it for the better, actually.

00:37:16.000 I know some of you say, oh, you can have them, Charlie.

00:37:18.000 I'm like, I don't know if you want Arizona to turn.

00:37:19.000 I don't think that's exactly good.

00:37:22.000 Look, I'm going to answer it the same way, which is, what can you individually do?

00:37:26.000 Study, honor God, be courageous in your action, try to flourish in your individual life, try to understand what God's purpose is for you.

00:37:34.000 And then you have to fight.

00:37:35.000 Psalm 97:10, if you love God, you must hate evil.

00:37:40.000 And there's a lot of evil to hate right now.

00:37:42.000 It's one of my favorite scriptures.

00:37:44.000 And that means that hating evil is actually part of your love of the divine.

00:37:50.000 In Ephesians, it says we must expose the darkness and the dark deeds of the enemy.

00:37:55.000 There's a lot of deeds to expose.

00:37:58.000 And so, look, this is why community matters.

00:38:00.000 This is why this church matters.

00:38:02.000 And look, California can and will continue to make huge impacts on the nation.

00:38:07.000 But I also encourage, it's very interesting, when I get, I almost only get that question from men, is the macro question.

00:38:16.000 Like, oh, Charlie, how do I save California?

00:38:18.000 Like they're trying to reconquer Persia, right? 0.95

00:38:22.000 The questions I get from women are, how do I make sure my child shares my values? 1.00

00:38:28.000 It's totally the opposite, right? 1.00

00:38:30.000 One wants to reclaim the Arabian Peninsula.

00:38:33.000 The other wants to make sure a single human being's life is ordered.

00:38:37.000 That's why marriage is such a beautiful thing, right?

00:38:40.000 It's one completely different.

00:38:43.000 One is worried about the conquest of the stars.

00:38:46.000 So I would just, I would say that focusing smaller and more micro, right?

00:38:50.000 How can I improve myself?

00:38:52.000 How can I make myself physically stronger?

00:38:54.000 How can I make my faith stronger?

00:38:56.000 That's the best advice I can give to people.

00:38:59.000 I have no idea what is coming next.

00:39:01.000 People say, Charlie, are we going to civil war?

00:39:03.000 That would be terrible.

00:39:03.000 I pray not.

00:39:04.000 Are we doing this?

00:39:05.000 All I know is this, is that if you take time to strengthen yourself, no matter what happens, that will give you an advantage, no matter what ends up coming around the corner.

00:39:16.000 I'm going to add to that.

00:39:19.000 As a Californian, I'm going to add to it.

00:39:21.000 Victory is not determined by the outcome, but by the obedience.

00:39:25.000 You can't be discouraged because we're in California and there's little victories.

00:39:30.000 And as Charlie pointed out on his show, the house has switched.

00:39:34.000 And it's because California overperformed.

00:39:37.000 So just keep fighting and we'll win.

00:39:40.000 No, we've already won.

00:39:41.000 We're not fighting for victory.

00:39:42.000 We're fighting from victory.

00:39:43.000 And just stay the course.

00:39:45.000 Amen?

00:39:48.000 Frank.

00:39:50.000 Charlie, it's good to see you.

00:39:52.000 How are you?

00:39:52.000 Good.

00:39:53.000 God bless you and your family and your new addition.

00:39:56.000 I don't know if you have an answer to this question, but my heart is grief for fathers.

00:40:02.000 We live in a time where fatherlessness is normalized.

00:40:05.000 You're a new dad.

00:40:07.000 If there's anything there, I mean, you're known for your fight and your tenacity and your knowledge.

00:40:12.000 And as a dad now, has that changed your view at all, your lens about culture, about fatherlessness, about men?

00:40:22.000 Anything there?

00:40:23.000 I'd be blessed to hear.

00:40:25.000 Thank you.

00:40:26.000 It hasn't changed, but it has clarified and deepened.

00:40:30.000 So we have a five-month-old, amazing, praise God, super healthy and just vibrant and full of joy and just incredible.

00:40:40.000 And one of the things you learn almost immediately, and I'm sure there's a lot of other lessons around the corner for me as I hear from other people, is that you really don't matter in this equation.

00:40:52.000 And it is, and this is why fatherlessness is so high because the whole culture is about you and your feelings, not about duty or obligation.

00:41:03.000 And that's a completely different moral construct that we should talk about.

00:41:08.000 So it doesn't matter if what I want to do, it's what I ought to do, which is to raise good people and to make sure that my daughter is well served and that I'm present and my wife is supported.

00:41:22.000 It's completely irrelevant what I feel.

00:41:25.000 That is very clear when you have a child. 0.91

00:41:28.000 And it's also clear why weak, cowardly men that have been fed a steady diet of secular, indulgent narcissism abandon their wives because we've been told them that you matter. 0.85

00:41:41.000 You're all this, yeah, look, you do matter, but it's less about how you feel.

00:41:44.000 And it's more important about one of my favorite words: duty.

00:41:48.000 We are a dutiless nation right now.

00:41:51.000 And young men have not been told, hey, listen, pal, you have an obligation to that child and your wife.

00:41:58.000 And anything less than that is challenging the divine, is waging war on nature.

00:42:05.000 And is you not being the best version of yourself, right?

00:42:11.000 Now, that doesn't mean much to most men anymore, unfortunately.

00:42:14.000 That's clarified it.

00:42:15.000 The second thing on masculinity, which is really important, is people say, well, Charlie, how do you juggle it all?

00:42:22.000 You know, last five months, I'm busy.

00:42:24.000 I'm still doing three hours of radio day, raising a bunch of money for Turning Point.

00:42:27.000 I have 350 employees at Turning Point USA and all this.

00:42:30.000 But I prioritize being a father and being present, saying no to a lot more stuff, shamelessly, by the way.

00:42:38.000 But also, there is a secret that I'm so just thrilled about, and it's right in front of our eyes.

00:42:44.000 It's so simple, and you have to honor it just like Jesus did, and just like God did, which is the Sabbath.

00:42:52.000 People say, Charlie, how do you make time?

00:42:54.000 I say, God told me to make time.

00:42:56.000 It's very simple.

00:42:57.000 Friday night, Rob knows it.

00:42:59.000 The whole team knows it.

00:42:59.000 Mikey knows it.

00:43:00.000 I am unreachable.

00:43:02.000 Period.

00:43:02.000 Phone goes off.

00:43:03.000 All that matters is family for 25 hours.

00:43:05.000 Period, non-negotiable, Friday night to Saturday night.

00:43:08.000 It makes it makes the other it makes the other nine commandments easier.

00:43:08.000 And guess what?

00:43:16.000 It is the gateway commandment.

00:43:19.000 It is the commandment that makes it easier to do all the rest.

00:43:22.000 I count down the days to Sabbath.

00:43:25.000 I could push myself harder on Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday.

00:43:28.000 And the phone goes off.

00:43:30.000 I say, in the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth, which is the Kaddush. 0.99

00:43:33.000 They've been doing it for 3,000 years.

00:43:33.000 They do it.

00:43:36.000 And I have nothing but 24, 25 hours of family time.

00:43:40.000 That's more than most families actually usually get in a given week, regardless, right?

00:43:45.000 Now, how does that mean for me?

00:43:47.000 It means that first, I think that us kind of de-emphasizing the Sabbath has been one of the great mistakes of secular modernity.

00:43:54.000 I think we should bring back blue laws.

00:43:56.000 I think whoever runs for president should run on at least an optional day of rest and celebrate it and talk about how we're moving way too fast and we're hurrying our life and we're more depressed and we're more suicidal and more anxious than ever.

00:44:08.000 And the scriptures have the key, which is to shut everything down for 24 hours once a week.

00:44:12.000 I think it will solve a lot of our problems just by doing that alone.

00:44:16.000 I'm writing a whole book on this, by the way, because I think one of the great failures of modern Christianity is no longer honoring the Sabbath.

00:44:21.000 I really do.

00:44:22.000 And I don't know how we got that way.

00:44:24.000 It's become way too consumeristic and secular, maybe one regard.

00:44:27.000 But that it's deepened.

00:44:28.000 And now I realize, oh, wow, the Sabbath was made so we could have families.

00:44:32.000 It's like, it makes perfect sense.

00:44:35.000 There is nothing that can distract me.

00:44:37.000 And so I have a built-in advantage.

00:44:39.000 I encourage every family to do it.

00:44:41.000 You want an extra 25 hours?

00:44:42.000 Act as if God will judge you if you do not honor the Sabbath.

00:44:46.000 You're like, well, Charlie, I don't believe that God judges me.

00:44:48.000 Where do you go to church?

00:44:49.000 Like, of course, God.

00:44:51.000 Thankfully, you have grace and redemption and mercy, but I mean, so anyway, that's, I could go on at length ad nauseum in that way, but I am a recipient of a blessing.

00:45:02.000 God rested after creation, and I think we should too.

00:45:17.000 So, how would you recommend proceeding when you have trans people in your family that obviously you love and you care about these people, but you don't agree with these things and you don't support these things, but you still care about these people?

00:45:32.000 That's a great question.

00:45:33.000 So, and Rob, we can go till like 7:45-8.

00:45:38.000 So, I don't want to turn people away if they have questions, okay?

00:45:40.000 Look, that's a really hard question.

00:45:42.000 And my heart goes out to you because in some ways, it's easier, it's easier for me to kind of be blunt on the trans issue because it's a distance, right?

00:45:56.000 In some ways, I don't have to live with it.

00:46:00.000 I think I don't know who in your family is dealing with it, but let me say this as let me just say it as bluntly as possible.

00:46:09.000 It is not loving to validate somebody's indulgence in a mental illness, it's not, it's just not.

00:46:16.000 And the loving thing to do would be to get them the support, the care that they need through spoken truth to tell them that how you feel is not consistent with your biological reality.

00:46:31.000 And those who argue with reality live in hell.

00:46:37.000 I didn't come up with that.

00:46:38.000 That's St. Augustine, by the way.

00:46:39.000 Okay, it just sounds so good.

00:46:40.000 So, I do a pregnant pause.

00:46:42.000 Those who argue with reality live in hell.

00:46:44.000 It's one of my favorite things, but the pregnant pause makes it seem like I came up with it, so it's really cool.

00:46:50.000 But I could go in at length with this, and this is where I lose a lot of people in the secular world.

00:46:56.000 But I don't believe love is the acceptance of a war on God's creation or acceptance of sin.

00:47:03.000 Okay, this is one of the reasons why I don't like the word empathy.

00:47:06.000 It's a new age term.

00:47:07.000 Sympathy is fine.

00:47:08.000 Empathy is nowhere to be found in the Bible, right?

00:47:10.000 Sympathy and empathy are two different words.

00:47:13.000 But let me say this, though, that I believe love is knowing somebody well enough for that they have not reached their full potential and then having the courage to tell them that they should not stay in a certain pattern.

00:47:26.000 So I don't know if the trans person is thinking about hormone blockers or puberty blockers or chemical castration or Lupron.

00:47:33.000 Here's what the data does show us.

00:47:36.000 It shows us that that starts a cascade of interventions that increases the rate of suicide, self-harm, misery.

00:47:44.000 What we do know is that from people that have escaped that cascade of interventions, that true liberation and true freedom actually comes from proper reconciliation with probably someone who harmed them, right?

00:47:57.000 Because that's usually one of the reasons why they go through this.

00:48:01.000 And I'll say this: the final, I don't know how old this person is that's dealing with this.

00:48:06.000 The vast majority of people that are coming out as trans right now in America are actually young women experiencing puberty that do not have a father figure at home. 0.77

00:48:16.000 And they think puberty means that they're actually a male and they're preyed on by groomer predators in school, prescribed irreversible drug treatment that then puts them into this cycle.

00:48:27.000 What's all of that?

00:48:28.000 I'm not one to say it's easy what you have to do, but what I would encourage you is to love like Jesus would, which is not to accept the sin, to always still dialogue and to be there for small favors or to be there for dinners.

00:48:43.000 I would not shut off communication or conversation.

00:48:45.000 I think that would be the worst thing you could do.

00:48:47.000 But when the rubber hits the road and they seek validation, because they will, they will always seek validation.

00:48:54.000 This is why the trans movement is tyrannical at nature. 1.00

00:48:56.000 It's not enough that they chop off their parts.

00:48:58.000 They want you to tell you that they're doing the right thing, that they're chopping off their parts. 1.00

00:49:03.000 It is, by definition, always seeking the validation of the other because they know what they're doing is wrong.

00:49:10.000 So they need to get up.

00:49:11.000 It's exactly like where you know you're doing something wrong.

00:49:12.000 You're like, hey, yeah, I'm doing the right thing.

00:49:14.000 And your friend's like, actually, no, you're doing the wrong thing.

00:49:16.000 Right?

00:49:17.000 Sin always tries to seek out validation from others.

00:49:20.000 And so that's where I encourage you to have the courage to say, I love you too much to tell you what you're doing is right.

00:49:28.000 God bless you.

00:49:36.000 Thanks, Charlie, for being here.

00:49:38.000 Question.

00:49:40.000 We all know that leftism is permeating our culture, our entertainment industry, the schools, the government.

00:49:50.000 What do we do, Charlie, when we see leftism creeping into the church like it is?

00:49:57.000 And some of the biggest resistors are pastors.

00:50:01.000 They're pastors that we're continually battling against.

00:50:05.000 What hope is there for revival and reformation and revolution in the church?

00:50:11.000 What a great question.

00:50:12.000 I have to answer it first by honoring our pastors that are here tonight in attendance and are here to.

00:50:35.000 Because there are so many good ones.

00:50:38.000 There are.

00:50:39.000 And they need to be repeated.

00:50:41.000 They need to be talked about in lunches and over coffees and text messages.

00:50:45.000 You need to say their names.

00:50:46.000 You need to celebrate them on social media.

00:50:48.000 You need to pray for them because the enemy is targeting them.

00:50:50.000 He's trying to winnow those ranks.

00:50:52.000 And we, you know, James Cadiz, Greg Denham, Jack Hibbs, Pastor Juergen.

00:50:57.000 We could just go through the list, right?

00:50:58.000 Praise God for these people because there's not enough of them.

00:51:01.000 I was joking around earlier.

00:51:03.000 I don't think it's 10% of pastors that are courageous.

00:51:05.000 I think it's maybe a strong and mighty 1%. 0.77

00:51:08.000 Praise God, it's a strong and mighty 1%, right? 0.96

00:51:12.000 And growing.

00:51:13.000 We're going to double that, all right?

00:51:18.000 But so, what can we do?

00:51:22.000 Well, first, let me further diagnose the problem because I've really labored over this topic and this issue.

00:51:26.000 I've said this many times, those of you that listen to my podcast and my radio program, you've heard this story before, so you have to just entertain me.

00:51:33.000 And back in the spring of 2020, I made the worst prediction in the history of American radio.

00:51:38.000 So bad, they should have kicked me off the airwaves.

00:51:40.000 I made this hour-long proclamation.

00:51:42.000 I did this whole podcast where I said, Listen, okay, they're trying to lock down America, and the pastors love liberty, and the churches aren't going to put up with this, and American Christians are going to fight back, and the lockdowns are not going to last a week.

00:51:55.000 And American Christians are just going to tell these tyrants to go to heaven and to get out, and it's going to be this huge thing.

00:52:03.000 It was the worst prediction.

00:52:04.000 I mean, I was the opposite, right?

00:52:06.000 The leaders of the lockdowns were Christians, quaking in fear, wondering what side, you know, I was just this again.

00:52:14.000 I was coming after it as a political guy, assuming that Christians loved and understood liberty, and I was totally wrong. 0.93

00:52:20.000 Now, you guys do, and you're a rarity, and you know you're a rarity and you're an exception.

00:52:24.000 And Rob, I mean, just understand.

00:52:25.000 I don't think you all remember this.

00:52:27.000 I was watching on my live stream this thing.

00:52:29.000 It was, it was not Easter, but it was, it was, is it good?

00:52:34.000 It was Palm Sunday.

00:52:36.000 Do you remember this insanity?

00:52:37.000 It was Palm Sunday, and Rob, I think, had like one row of chairs with people in hazmat suits.

00:52:45.000 No, this is a real thing.

00:52:47.000 They were wearing hazmat suits straight out of Chernobyl.

00:52:50.000 It was impressive how he got them.

00:52:51.000 I don't know how he did it.

00:52:52.000 With, they had went, they had like disinfectant, three masks on, they had oxygen machines, every door was wide open, and like one person was allowed to come in at a time and like take communion for Palm Sunday and then leave.

00:53:08.000 And then they would, I literally, in the live stream, you'd watch it, they would spray the chair and then wipe it off.

00:53:14.000 And it was, it was amazing to see on the live stream.

00:53:17.000 It was like a machine.

00:53:18.000 It was like someone comes up, has suit, comes in.

00:53:22.000 And for this, Rob was just villainized in the media as if he's Dr. Kvorkian, Dr. Death. 0.94

00:53:29.000 He's trying to kill people.

00:53:31.000 And I was just impressed by the logistics of the operation. 0.94

00:53:36.000 It's like a well-oiled machine.

00:53:38.000 I was like, this is military tiles, you know.

00:53:41.000 And I was just, I was one of the early adopters that this COVID thing is way overblown and now what it needs to be and totally insane.

00:53:48.000 And I was censored on social media.

00:53:50.000 Many of you guys were too.

00:53:51.000 So I had very little patience with this.

00:53:52.000 And I really understood totalitarianism well.

00:53:55.000 I studied literature.

00:53:56.000 I got my start.

00:53:56.000 So I was cheering Rob on from afar, like, open up your church.

00:54:00.000 Like, these people are the worst and all of this.

00:54:02.000 And I came to your defense and all that.

00:54:04.000 But, and I know there's other examples of that, but it was very rare.

00:54:07.000 And it was so instructive to me that we have a church that might have biblical gospel views, but certainly has secular political views.

00:54:19.000 And that was so illuminating to me.

00:54:21.000 And look, I think we're in a better spot now than we were a couple years ago.

00:54:24.000 I think that's definitely fair.

00:54:27.000 But okay, to answer your question, because that was a little bit of an appropriate detour, what can we do about it?

00:54:32.000 There's three types of churches: there's the courageous, there's the cowardly, and the complicit.

00:54:36.000 You are in a courageous church, praise God.

00:54:38.000 You are in a courageous church, right?

00:54:40.000 You are.

00:54:45.000 Erica and I tie to this church.

00:54:46.000 We love this church.

00:54:47.000 You should support this church.

00:54:48.000 Find a courageous church and support them.

00:54:50.000 Find one, support them, praise God.

00:54:50.000 It's not Rob.

00:54:52.000 Number two, there's a cowardly church. 0.97

00:54:54.000 I'll be very honest. 0.99

00:54:55.000 I am losing my patience with the cowardly church.

00:54:59.000 I had, and I'm very honest with my, you know, my struggles.

00:55:04.000 There's some fruits of the spirit that come easier to me than others.

00:55:07.000 Patience recently with cowardly pastors is wearing very, very thin.

00:55:12.000 And so I had somebody recently that said to me, Well, Charlie, what do you have to say to a pastor that's still undecided about things?

00:55:19.000 I say, hold on a second.

00:55:21.000 After the lockdowns, the forced vaccines, the mRNA gene-altering shot, the masks on kids, most suicidal generation in history, wide open border, crashing the economy, manipulation of social media, spying on a president, removal of a president, you're still kind of in the neutral zone at this point.

00:55:40.000 Like, I don't know, I need to see more information to proceed.

00:55:49.000 Like, I'm going to need more time to figure it out.

00:55:52.000 Right.

00:55:54.000 It's like the most compressed masterclass on political totalitarianism in American history.

00:56:00.000 Like a two-year compressed, like, we're going to throw it all at you.

00:56:04.000 We're going to lie to you. 0.91

00:56:05.000 We're going to shut you up when you call out our lies. 0.99

00:56:07.000 We're going to throw you in prison if you talk about the fact that we're shutting you up because we lie about our lies. 0.97

00:56:12.000 Meanwhile, we're going to allow people to burn down Wendy's for sport.

00:56:15.000 We're going to call it racial justice, say it's mostly peaceful, displace a president and call it an election.

00:56:22.000 And pastors say, you know, I'm going to need more time.

00:56:25.000 Yeah, I have no patience for that.

00:56:26.000 Okay.

00:56:27.000 You shouldn't be in the ministry at this point.

00:56:29.000 Honestly, resign.

00:56:30.000 Get out of the ministry.

00:56:31.000 If you're still saying you're on the fence after these last couple years, you shouldn't be a pastor anymore.

00:56:40.000 You've had your chance, man.

00:56:43.000 All right.

00:56:45.000 There's your answer.

00:56:46.000 Well, I didn't finish.

00:56:47.000 Oh, he's not finished.

00:56:48.000 My bad.

00:56:48.000 And then finally, the complicit.

00:56:50.000 Sorry.

00:56:51.000 The complicit are the people that work actively against our interests, gay pride flags, BLM flags. 0.75

00:56:55.000 They should be rebuked and all that sort of stuff. 0.97

00:56:57.000 We got to find the cowardly churches, give them one final warning, and then we should just hope those churches close. 0.94

00:57:02.000 I'll be honest.

00:57:02.000 I don't care if they have good Easter service.

00:57:04.000 I don't care if they have a beautiful Christmas service.

00:57:06.000 I don't care.

00:57:07.000 I don't wish them well.

00:57:08.000 I want the courageous churches to stand and fight, or else we're not going to have a civilization.

00:57:12.000 And we're all going to be having robust theological disputes from prison.

00:57:17.000 Sorry, interrupting.

00:57:21.000 All right, now I know I'm taking two people because the last one was my question.

00:57:25.000 This will be my last one on my side, and you can have all the rest.

00:57:28.000 It's 7:35.

00:57:30.000 We can keep going.

00:57:31.000 Okay, 20 more minutes.

00:57:31.000 Okay.

00:57:32.000 This is exciting for me.

00:57:33.000 This is Nina.

00:57:34.000 She's from South Korea and she heads up the turning point conservative movement in South Korea.

00:57:46.000 Thank you, Rob.

00:57:46.000 Hi, Charlie.

00:57:48.000 South Korea is a free nation now, thanks to American soldiers.

00:57:51.000 And we have also adopted biblical values, same values of America when founding our own country.

00:57:57.000 And yet, these days, a lot of leftist ideologies from America and that have been destroying American values are also flowing into our country and destroying our foundation as well.

00:58:07.000 And do you believe this freedom movement that you're in right now, Christian truth movement, should spread out to the world?

00:58:14.000 And if you do, then how can we achieve that?

00:58:18.000 She also wants to know if you'll go to With me because I'm going to go with, and we're going to do a go to Seoul.

00:58:22.000 Yeah, we're going to go with Seoul.

00:58:23.000 Yeah, we're going to have a first of all, God bless you.

00:58:29.000 There is no, and this is why I'm done with these pastors.

00:58:32.000 There is no greater demonstration about the moral need to engage in politics than looking at a satellite image between North Korea and South Korea.

00:58:40.000 It's that simple.

00:58:41.000 One is politics properly formed, and one is politics immorally formed.

00:58:46.000 I get so fired up.

00:58:47.000 My blood pressure rises when a pastor says it doesn't matter.

00:58:50.000 You've got concentration camps, death camps, propaganda, people being massacred in the streets, and complete totalitarian regime in North Korea and a robust Christian nation that has the rule of law, separation of powers, and a constitution, freedom of speech, commerce, some of the most valuable companies on the planet in South Korea.

00:59:08.000 And you're trying to tell me politics doesn't matter.

00:59:10.000 If you believe in a God that loves people and God looks at it and he says, which one do you think is closer to glorifying him that has more people being able to be free?

00:59:20.000 God looks at North Korea or South Korea. 0.57

00:59:22.000 Only politics is to answer for that question.

00:59:26.000 And yet, Christians say repeatedly, it does not matter. 0.75

00:59:29.000 It does not matter.

00:59:31.000 What an unbelievably entitled, elitist, strictly Western belief to think politics don't matter.

00:59:38.000 Answer your question.

00:59:38.000 Yes, I want to see this freedom movement be exported across the world.

00:59:42.000 I would love to have some good American exports because you touched on something super profound.

00:59:46.000 Not enough time to get into it tonight.

00:59:48.000 Right now, we are the worst on the planet on the trans stuff. 1.00

00:59:53.000 Other countries think we're insane with what we're doing. 0.77

00:59:56.000 Like out of control, insane. 0.78

00:59:58.000 The Japanese, they don't understand it at all. 1.00

01:00:02.000 Like they're like, what?

01:00:03.000 You could think whatever you are, and you're going after children.

01:00:03.000 Trans?

01:00:06.000 Even the Europeans think we're taking this trans thing too far.

01:00:10.000 The French, Emmanuel Macron, who is no lover of America or American values, says that this American mind virus of wokeism, I'm paraphrasing, is destroying French language culture.

01:00:23.000 And he's not wrong.

01:00:25.000 So our net export right now is idea pathogens that are destroying other civilizations and cultures.

01:00:36.000 I'm not going to do this for the rest of you, Sheikhim all the way from South Korea. 1.00

01:00:40.000 Get in here.

01:00:40.000 Let's go.

01:00:41.000 Come on.

01:00:50.000 God bless you.

01:00:51.000 Thank you.

01:00:56.000 Do you agree with Putin when he said he was Gog of Magog? 0.91

01:01:01.000 And also, what do you think America's place is in this global conflict, biblically speaking?

01:01:06.000 Okay, say the first part again.

01:01:07.000 Sorry.

01:01:08.000 Do you agree with Putin when he said he was Gog of Magog? 0.91

01:01:12.000 God with Magog?

01:01:13.000 Gog of Magog.

01:01:14.000 Gog of Magog.

01:01:16.000 Oh, okay.

01:01:17.000 I'm not familiar with Putin's theological views, so I'm not going to comment on that.

01:01:20.000 Oh, he actually, he quoted the Bible by saying he was that do more research on that.

01:01:28.000 But yeah, so the second part, what is America's role in the The global affairs, right?

01:01:33.000 Look, I believe that America needs to be a leader, of course.

01:01:33.000 Yeah.

01:01:38.000 Again, I think this Ukraine mess is not worthy of our intervention in one way, shape, or form, except the fact that we should be leading for the brokering of peace. 0.97

01:01:46.000 We should every day be hosting meetings.

01:01:48.000 Why are we not getting closer to peace?

01:01:50.000 We're getting further away from peace.

01:01:51.000 And by the way, you know who's the impediment to peace?

01:01:53.000 Yeah, Putin can't be trusted.

01:01:55.000 Zelensky is the one that has denied reasonable peace negotiations time and time again.

01:02:00.000 Don't believe me?

01:02:01.000 Talk to the people on the ground in Ukraine.

01:02:03.000 This whole war could have been prevented if Joe Biden, the Central Intelligence Agency in Zelensky, would have taken a very prudent deal to allow the eastern part of Ukraine, which are 99% Russian-speaking, ethnically and homogenously Russian, to just allow that to happen.

01:02:18.000 And this displacement, this refugee crisis never should have happened. 1.00

01:02:21.000 Now, what is America's role?

01:02:22.000 Look, first and I would love to talk about wars abroad, but first, we are a broken nation and we're further getting we need to secure our border first, be energy independent, get our recession figured out, not have a hundred not have 107,000 drug overdoses every single year, not have the leading cause of death for kids 18 to 30 be suicide.

01:02:43.000 I think it's insane to even be talking about these foreign wars of abstractions when our own country is falling apart.

01:02:50.000 You know your regime is not serving your best interests when they're more worried about war games abroad when your own country is being shattered into a million pieces.

01:03:07.000 In our current level of political corruption, could our leaders take a position that could get them assassinated?

01:03:15.000 Well, that's interesting.

01:03:17.000 Yes, they could.

01:03:19.000 I do think, though, I mean, look, I think Kennedy was assassinated by deep state forces.

01:03:23.000 I did a whole podcast on that.

01:03:24.000 I don't believe Jeffrey Epstein committed suicide.

01:03:26.000 So I tend to be more open-minded on these things.

01:03:30.000 So I do think, though, that this is my current theory, that assassinations tend to create bedlam and chaos.

01:03:38.000 The new maneuvers of the permanent administrative state tend to not be as blunt measures as what we saw in Dallas, but instead, it's what they did to Trump, which is we are going to remove you by other means.

01:03:52.000 We are going to pretend like it's peaceful and that it's within the constitutional norms.

01:03:57.000 We're going to use the intel agencies.

01:03:58.000 We're going to try to indict you, use blackmail.

01:04:01.000 And I think they're trying to do that to Joe Biden right now as well.

01:04:04.000 And so to answer your question, is there something that could be done to necessitate an assassination attempt?

01:04:10.000 Hard to answer that correctly.

01:04:11.000 I will say this: that there were people, and this is going to get written up by the media.

01:04:16.000 So I have to be very clear, I have to say this.

01:04:17.000 There were people within our government that if they could, they would have killed Donald Trump. 0.64

01:04:22.000 Period.

01:04:23.000 And I know you're not allowed to say that out loud, but it's true. 1.00

01:04:26.000 Just read the Peter Strzok text messages for the deep-seated contempt.

01:04:31.000 So not everybody in the government wanted to see Donald Trump killed.

01:04:34.000 Not everyone wanted to see him taken out.

01:04:36.000 Therefore, I believe there was a mass agreement that we could take him out using Facebook, Zuckerbucks, Mark Elias, mail-in ballots, FBI, CIA, DHS.

01:04:49.000 So I believe that Donald Trump was such a threat to the administrative state, the fourth branch of government, the status quo, that they had to throw everything at him.

01:04:59.000 And unfortunately, as the chapter is still being written, they were successful.

01:05:04.000 And we'll see if they are successful at the end of the chapter.

01:05:08.000 Really quick follow-up?

01:05:09.000 Great answer.

01:05:10.000 Oh, okay.

01:05:11.000 Thank you.

01:05:16.000 That's going to be important everywhere.

01:05:19.000 On the topic of protecting infants and also those people that have been trafficked, are you aware that the military tribunals are being held?

01:05:27.000 Because I think that would help bring people to the precipice if we actually knew there was, I mean, how deep all of this goes.

01:05:34.000 Yeah, they're not actually.

01:05:36.000 That's not correct.

01:05:37.000 You're not getting correct information.

01:05:41.000 No.

01:05:42.000 I encourage you to stop reading those websites.

01:05:44.000 There are no military tribunals.

01:05:45.000 It's not going to happen.

01:05:47.000 And those websites make you a less sharp weapon against the enemy.

01:05:51.000 So please stop reading those.

01:05:57.000 Hi, Charlie.

01:05:59.000 You've been traversing our country for how many years now, trying to reach the university students.

01:06:05.000 Do you feel like the impact is greater today than it was three years ago based on all the insanity that's been taking place?

01:06:11.000 Yes.

01:06:12.000 I mean, so just, you know, there was a Pew Research study that was done that shows that young people are 15 points less liberal than they were five years ago, which is amazing.

01:06:20.000 So they're gravitating away from the left.

01:06:23.000 They are moderately more conservative, one or two points more conservative.

01:06:27.000 Not a lot, so we've got some work to do.

01:06:29.000 But look, I'm about to go on a campus tour.

01:06:31.000 I want to invite all of you.

01:06:33.000 March 1st, where's Mikey, right?

01:06:34.000 Is it March 1st?

01:06:35.000 I'm going to University of California, Santa Barbara.

01:06:38.000 All of you are welcome.

01:06:39.000 I think it's going to be a lot of fun.

01:06:41.000 And I could use all the allies I could take when I go to UCSB.

01:06:46.000 So we're going to post that information.

01:06:48.000 How far is it?

01:06:48.000 An hour and a half from here, right?

01:06:50.000 If that, okay, cool.

01:06:51.000 So if you guys want to come and support me, it would actually be awesome to see you.

01:06:55.000 We'll send you the information.

01:06:56.000 You'll see for yourself.

01:06:58.000 Look, there's more young people that are open-minded than there were a couple years ago.

01:07:02.000 This woke stuff is increasingly unpopular.

01:07:05.000 It's also, it's unpopular amongst middle-income whites and also Asians and Hispanics and some blacks too, as well.

01:07:15.000 This woke stuff, you have to be super wealthy, incredibly comfortable financially to believe that men can become pregnant and that race should trump merit, right? 0.78

01:07:27.000 You have to be like permanently wealthy to believe that stuff, right?

01:07:31.000 Because it's inherently disempowering to you.

01:07:34.000 Basically, the message that skin color should trump merit is a message to anybody who's not in some protected class that one day you're going to encounter a situation or a scenario where your ambition, your delayed gratification, or your sacrifice will not be rewarded. 0.59

01:07:49.000 That's a deeply unpopular message to a young person, isn't it?

01:07:53.000 Where the message used to be like, hey, if you wake up early and you stay late and you dedicate yourself and you study and you do your job, you can move up in life.

01:08:00.000 But now the sales pitch is that we should reappropriate the entire society to skin color and sexual orientation and or other characteristics. 0.59

01:08:11.000 So I do see that there is movement.

01:08:12.000 I do.

01:08:13.000 There is a bigger movable middle than ever before.

01:08:16.000 And I think we got to look at it as an opportunity.

01:08:19.000 But let me also just say this.

01:08:20.000 I don't look at this through a political lens, this one part, which is this is the most miserable generation in American history.

01:08:27.000 There has never been a more suicidal, anxious, depressed generation, aimless, without purpose.

01:08:33.000 And that's really sad.

01:08:35.000 I don't blame any one group at all.

01:08:38.000 I do think that the people that have raised them, though, generally have no idea what this generation is dealing with, which is a steady diet of cynicism and nihilism with, of course, these incredibly destructive smartphones that, I mean, I've talked about that at length here at this church before, that are doing far more damage than we'll ever realize, which is the largest open-air drug experiment in human history.

01:09:00.000 So there is an opportunity.

01:09:02.000 The first political party to talk to a generation as a generation that needs healing will win them 80%. 0.85

01:09:09.000 Republican Party, I can't get them to elect a chair that actually wants to win.

01:09:12.000 So I'm obviously, and we could talk about that too, unbelievably frustrating.

01:09:17.000 If you guys want to hear about that, I could tell you all about it.

01:09:19.000 It's perplexing.

01:09:21.000 And okay, I will.

01:09:23.000 But it's a generation that needs to be healed.

01:09:26.000 I believe only Jesus can heal them.

01:09:29.000 But if you want to make the message obviously broader, just talk about how truth can heal them, how a proper way of living can heal them.

01:09:35.000 This is a battered generation, everybody. 1.00

01:09:38.000 And I hope our political leaders realize that for their sake, not even to win elections, just so that this generation doesn't go down as, you know, the greatest disaster in American history.

01:09:49.000 Thank you.

01:09:51.000 Thank you.

01:09:53.000 Hillsdale, my favorite.

01:09:56.000 Thank God my son is there.

01:09:57.000 And he tells me, by the way, that we got this, mom.

01:10:00.000 Don't worry about it.

01:10:01.000 It's not as bad as you think.

01:10:02.000 We understand the mess we're in.

01:10:04.000 Spend the day at Hillsdale College.

01:10:04.000 You want hope.

01:10:06.000 It's special.

01:10:07.000 Absolutely.

01:10:08.000 So what is your advice to parents who feel unable to leave public school because they just feel like they, well, else am I going to do?

01:10:15.000 I don't want to homeschool.

01:10:17.000 I can't do private school.

01:10:18.000 How do I get out of this woke mess?

01:10:21.000 What can I do?

01:10:22.000 I'm stuck.

01:10:23.000 What's your advice?

01:10:25.000 Yeah, I know you ran for school board, Rob told me.

01:10:27.000 So that's, you did the right thing.

01:10:31.000 I'm going to challenge you because you're a Hillsdale mom, so you could take the challenge.

01:10:37.000 If private school, are all the private schools woke or is it a financial thing?

01:10:41.000 I don't, mostly financial.

01:10:43.000 Okay.

01:10:43.000 Yeah, I understand definitely in this community that that's a thing in Thousand Oaks.

01:10:49.000 And it's like, what, $60,000 a year to go to the private school?

01:10:51.000 It's just absolutely insane.

01:10:53.000 Am I off?

01:10:54.000 Yeah, it's four and a half.

01:10:56.000 Or they're totally full.

01:10:57.000 Yeah, it's a cash ectomy without anesthesia.

01:10:59.000 Yeah, geez.

01:11:03.000 So let me not answer it specifically to you, because I actually think you got a great excuse because you do live in kind of where private schools are full and all this.

01:11:12.000 Most parents that tell me that, I want to just lovingly challenge you as to what could be more important than even if you have to go into debt, move to a smaller home, or forego vacations.

01:11:23.000 If there is a non-woke private alternative, I encourage you to prioritize that over any pleasure that you might have in your line item.

01:11:31.000 It's an exception around here because you guys live in Narnia, right?

01:11:33.000 This is not real life around here.

01:11:35.000 It is.

01:11:35.000 I mean, it's just, it's out of control.

01:11:37.000 Even your mountains are green.

01:11:38.000 It's like crazy.

01:11:39.000 Everything is, it's bizarre.

01:11:42.000 For most parents, that should be something that they should reprioritize in that way.

01:11:48.000 For you personally, look, you got to fight.

01:11:52.000 And then you got to use every idle moment you have with your child who's in public school as a teaching moment, right?

01:11:58.000 You got to teach them on Saturday.

01:11:59.000 You got to teach them on Sunday.

01:12:00.000 You got to teach them at night.

01:12:01.000 You got to bribe them to watch Turning Point videos or Charlie Kirk podcasts or Prager U videos, right?

01:12:07.000 You just got to go full court press, right?

01:12:09.000 You got to say, all right, you want to go out to your friends?

01:12:12.000 Watch this five-minute Prague or U video and tell me why you should honor your mother and father.

01:12:17.000 That one will really fire them up, right?

01:12:19.000 And by the way, if you're against bribery for raising children, then you're against markets.

01:12:25.000 Kids respond to incentives because they're human beings, right?

01:12:28.000 And so, of course, you should bribe your kids towards what matters.

01:12:33.000 It's not even a question.

01:12:34.000 I did it with your son.

01:12:36.000 You did.

01:12:36.000 But it's incentivized, not bribe.

01:12:39.000 No, but no, no, no.

01:12:40.000 I use bribe because you'll never forget I gave you the advice.

01:12:44.000 Advice.

01:12:45.000 If I said incentivize, you'd be like, okay, bribe.

01:12:47.000 You're like, Charlie wants us to bribe our kids.

01:12:49.000 You write, I want you to bribe your kids.

01:12:51.000 Of course.

01:12:53.000 The blunt is usually the most remembered, okay?

01:12:56.000 So and then also have them take Hillsdale online courses, Charlie for Hillsdale.com.

01:13:04.000 But look, the point is this, is that unfortunately the public school government school system is probably past the point of redemption.

01:13:11.000 My biggest piece of advice, I don't say this lightly, after 10 years of doing this and looking at this and studying it, is almost everyone should just leave.

01:13:18.000 Just get out.

01:13:20.000 And I know that's not easy advice to hear, but Sometimes you just got to leave Sadome and not look back.

01:13:31.000 Yeah.

01:13:34.000 Thank you for saying that because one of the things with running for race and not getting on the school board was: do you take it down?

01:13:41.000 And can it be saved?

01:13:44.000 And I love public school, and so it was very sad to see that we couldn't change it for the better.

01:13:51.000 So thank you for saying that because I think we're at that point.

01:13:53.000 Yeah, pray on it and fast on it.

01:13:55.000 And look, one of the truths of the story of Sadome and Gomorrah is there is a limit where sometimes you have to leave and then not look back.

01:14:08.000 Can I do a quick interlude about the RNC?

01:14:10.000 Do you guys want to hear about the RNC thing?

01:14:12.000 Okay.

01:14:14.000 All right.

01:14:15.000 So this is just on my own personal views.

01:14:17.000 We have Turning Point Action as well as Turning Point USA.

01:14:20.000 Important distinction between the organizations.

01:14:22.000 So I went to the RNC meeting, guys, on Friday.

01:14:24.000 Some of you guys know that, that watch our show.

01:14:26.000 Some of you don't know that.

01:14:27.000 I went there to try to be a voice for you.

01:14:28.000 I'm really upset at the current RNC regime.

01:14:31.000 I'm sick of losing.

01:14:32.000 I actually want winners that aren't named Romney to run the RNC.

01:14:35.000 I know that's quite a concept, right? 1.00

01:14:37.000 And nothing against her. 0.69

01:14:38.000 I think she's a very sweet woman.

01:14:39.000 She's always been very warm and kind to me.

01:14:41.000 But I think that if you don't win the U.S. Senate in a year that should have been a red wave, you should be replaced and fired.

01:14:46.000 No one is entitled to run the RNC for eight years.

01:14:49.000 I think when you spend $700,000 on flowers and $17 million on donor mementos, that should just be caution and pause.

01:14:56.000 The RNC ended with $14 million in a bank account that could have been used on Adam Laxalt, Herschel Walker, Carrie Lake, and many others.

01:15:04.000 Why did we end with that much money in the bank account?

01:15:06.000 And in fact, I would, it's very paradoxical.

01:15:09.000 I would rather have them give the financial report and say, you know what?

01:15:12.000 We're actually in debt because we wanted to win so bad that we had to spend more money than we had.

01:15:16.000 I want that leader than someone that says, well, we ended with $14 million.

01:15:20.000 We could pay our bills.

01:15:21.000 We didn't win where we should have won. 0.99

01:15:23.000 So I think that loser should be replaced. 0.98

01:15:25.000 You have a killer instinct. 0.99

01:15:26.000 We're up against people that are really very sophisticated.

01:15:30.000 They built an unbelievable machine, Mark Elias and all these people.

01:15:32.000 So I went there.

01:15:33.000 And look, let me first preface it.

01:15:35.000 It's kind of very similar to the pastor conversation, except the odds are actually better at the RNC than amongst American Christians, which is like one in three of RNC members actually really are good people that are doing their job, that are fighting hard, Harmeet Dylan being one of them.

01:15:51.000 And they want what's, I mean, they really are, and they're so sweet.

01:15:55.000 And they came up to me and they told me what they're dealing with.

01:15:57.000 So they need to be mentioned.

01:15:58.000 They're not all bad.

01:15:59.000 There's 168 members of the RNC.

01:16:01.000 In order to win, you need 85 votes.

01:16:02.000 I think that my math is right correctly.

01:16:04.000 Final vote tally was 111 votes for Rana and then 51 votes for Harmeet and then four votes for one of my favorite human beings ever, Mike Lindell.

01:16:14.000 And Harmeet and Mike were running in tandem, basically.

01:16:16.000 We'll support one another if we can keep the threshold and they were unsuccessful.

01:16:20.000 So they're about 25 votes short.

01:16:21.000 But look, I talked to a lot of members of the RNC there, and they hate you.

01:16:26.000 They really hate you.

01:16:28.000 I'm not saying that lightly.

01:16:29.000 I don't say it for clicks.

01:16:31.000 I was a lobbyist for a day.

01:16:32.000 I'm never doing that again.

01:16:33.000 Where I literally stood in a lobby and shook hands from 7 a.m. till the vote and looked people in the eye and heard.

01:16:38.000 And my thing, I said, you realize 98% of the people you represent that you beg for money from, that you send text messages to want change here.

01:16:46.000 And they say, they don't know what they're talking about.

01:16:48.000 We're in charge, and they are not.

01:16:50.000 They blame my program, Steve Bannon's program, Tucker's program.

01:16:54.000 Contempt.

01:16:55.000 A throbbing middle finger.

01:16:57.000 And I wish I had better news to deliver to you.

01:17:00.000 You could say it's out of touch.

01:17:01.000 It's worse than out of touch.

01:17:02.000 They're actually in touch.

01:17:04.000 They know how you feel.

01:17:07.000 I didn't like people say, well, you talk about out of touch.

01:17:09.000 I say, no, they actually, they told me they knew.

01:17:11.000 They knew what the voters wanted, and they stuck a middle finger at you and they said, we're in charge, and you are not.

01:17:18.000 So what do you do about it?

01:17:19.000 I think you should replace what?

01:17:23.000 Yeah, stop sending them money.

01:17:24.000 That's exactly right.

01:17:25.000 Yes, I'm sorry.

01:17:26.000 Sorry.

01:17:28.000 Yes.

01:17:30.000 Do not financially support the RNC.

01:17:33.000 And when they call you and they beg you for donations, respond.

01:17:36.000 You guys didn't listen to the will of the people.

01:17:37.000 By the way, there's so many other great grassroots organizations to support that are going to step up and do the job.

01:17:42.000 It would be nice if the RNC would do their job.

01:17:44.000 Just say, we're done.

01:17:45.000 You don't listen to us.

01:17:45.000 98% want change.

01:17:47.000 We're not going to support you anymore.

01:17:48.000 This is not going to happen.

01:17:49.000 Okay?

01:17:50.000 That's not to say you should stop giving politically, just stop supporting them.

01:17:53.000 And then I encourage every one of you, become precinct committee men, get involved in the California State Central Committee, and you'll find out very quickly who voted for Rana and who didn't, right?

01:18:03.000 And replace the people that voted for Rana.

01:18:05.000 It's that simple.

01:18:06.000 Just say you didn't represent the will of the people of California.

01:18:09.000 It's not that hard.

01:18:09.000 You had one of your own running for chairman, chairwoman, which is Harmeet, and you can't support a fellow Californian.

01:18:16.000 Like, what is that?

01:18:17.000 I mean, not only, she's super smart, she's a lawyer, she's amazing, and you can't support her.

01:18:21.000 So, anyway, I learned a lot by going there, and it shows that we have a lot of work to do, but it's not the fight for liberty and victory is not going to come through the Republican National Committee.

01:18:40.000 With your book, The College Scam, so it's divesting from anyone who's put into endowment funds and donated to these universities.

01:18:49.000 You have this divestment where they're putting it into turning point.

01:18:52.000 I would say, and I'm just going to be blunt with it and leave you from having to solicit: don't give to the RNC, give to turning point action.

01:19:04.000 Thank you.

01:19:04.000 And if you feel moved to do that, we do have a grassroots political arm that I think one of the great political avants of our time is helping grow.

01:19:13.000 We're hiring field workers, we're doing it the right way.

01:19:16.000 We have a turning point pack that works in harmony there.

01:19:18.000 Happy.

01:19:19.000 I'll put the links on charliekirk.com if you guys want to support it.

01:19:22.000 I know you guys get hit up all the time.

01:19:24.000 If you say, Hey, I feel called by God to give some money politically, I think we'll earn it and show you what we can do with it.

01:19:31.000 Okay, a couple more questions.

01:19:33.000 Yeah, hi.

01:19:34.000 First of all, I want to thank a lot of appreciation for opening this venue up for free speech.

01:19:38.000 I really think it's wonderful.

01:19:44.000 My question is: even the good old days, how good were they, right?

01:19:48.000 Like, how good were they in Revelation chapter 17?

01:19:52.000 Let me just read this verse.

01:19:53.000 It says, For God hath put it in their hearts to fulfill his will, to agree and give their kingdom unto the beast until the words of God shall be fulfilled.

01:20:02.000 I believe that's a confederacy between the ruling class at the end of time and the papacy.

01:20:07.000 And this is just going to happen.

01:20:08.000 God's going to bring it.

01:20:10.000 What would you know?

01:20:11.000 I was heavily involved, politically involved at one point, and I still stand up for things.

01:20:17.000 But what if Jesus is getting ready to come back?

01:20:20.000 Would that not be something much better than is this the wrong question?

01:20:25.000 Say, and I'm fighting, I'm fighting all these things, so I'm totally on board with what you guys are standing for.

01:20:29.000 Yeah.

01:20:30.000 Sure.

01:20:31.000 When is he coming back?

01:20:34.000 Well, I think the prophecies are showing it's pretty soon.

01:20:38.000 I think.

01:20:38.000 I mean, I think they're all pointing at that point.

01:20:40.000 No, you might be right.

01:20:40.000 You might be right, but when is soon?

01:20:45.000 I mean, I think it's going to be soon.

01:20:47.000 I don't know.

01:20:47.000 I don't.

01:20:48.000 What is a woman? 1.00

01:20:50.000 No.

01:20:50.000 The more important question is this: okay.

01:20:53.000 What do you want to be caught doing when Christ returns?

01:20:56.000 Working for him, working for Jesus.

01:20:59.000 So let's fight.

01:21:00.000 Okay, thank you.

01:21:10.000 All right, last question.

01:21:11.000 Yeah, let me just add to the answer if that's okay.

01:21:15.000 Jeremiah 18, Potter's House.

01:21:17.000 If I intend evil for a nation and they repent, I'll relent from the evil I intended.

01:21:21.000 If I intend to be good for a nation and they relent from doing good, I'll relent from the good I intended.

01:21:27.000 You know, God is the arbiter of when he's going to return.

01:21:29.000 We don't know the day or the hour.

01:21:32.000 And he declares in Luke that we're to occupy, do business until he comes.

01:21:37.000 And what can happen with us at Calvary Chapel, because we're preacher at premillennial, is it self-fulfilling prophecy that, and James Cadiz is perfect at this.

01:21:48.000 He doesn't buy into that.

01:21:49.000 Neither do a few others, where you have, you're so, you look at the geopolitical horizon for one thing, the soon return of Christ, and you're not investing in the next generation because you think, well, it's an unstoppable juggernaut.

01:22:05.000 Well, that's just not, that's not for us to decide.

01:22:09.000 You know, we're not polishing brass on the Titanic.

01:22:14.000 The idea is we're preparing a nation and a culture grows great whose citizens plant trees of the shade they'll never know.

01:22:22.000 And if we don't, if we don't contend, there aren't any Protestants on the Supreme Court because we don't educate our kids to be able to sit in that seat. 0.62

01:22:32.000 That's true.

01:22:34.000 We have to pursue higher education.

01:22:36.000 He speaks fluent Greek.

01:22:38.000 Amen?

01:22:39.000 That's an educated man.

01:22:42.000 That's what we need with our young people.

01:22:44.000 We can't use eschatology as justification for apathy and inactivity because he's coming back.

01:22:49.000 When he comes back, he's going to go, you guys have done a great job.

01:22:52.000 When I think it's the, and that's why I asked, what do you want to be caught doing?

01:22:55.000 I think eschatology should be jet fuel for more action and for more activity and to lean even more.

01:23:02.000 And so I appreciate it.

01:23:03.000 All right, the last question.

01:23:05.000 Make it good because it's the last one and it's all.

01:23:07.000 Okay, I hope it's good then.

01:23:08.000 Hi, Charlie.

01:23:09.000 I'm a single mom of two teenagers, and I've had to pull them out of the public school system and I've had to homeschool them.

01:23:17.000 And it's hard.

01:23:18.000 It's hard because I'm a single mom doing it myself.

01:23:21.000 But I have a heart for kids and I find myself kind of the mama to all their peers.

01:23:27.000 So like in my home, I can teach about Christ, but when their friends are coming over, they're confused about if they're straight or if they're gay.

01:23:36.000 And I'm the one having to like stand my ground with them.

01:23:40.000 So my question is, and it's more for my kids than me because I try to help these kids and show them Christ and be the example.

01:23:47.000 But for my children, they come to me at night and they go, Mom, you know, it really hurts my heart that they're going through this.

01:23:55.000 What resources would you suggest to like maybe between the ages of like 12 and 18 where they can understand and they can get the tools on how to fight that battle?

01:24:05.000 So I'm teaching them, but where can they get that on their own?

01:24:08.000 First of all, God bless you.

01:24:09.000 You have a lot on your plate.

01:24:11.000 That's a big fight.

01:24:12.000 That really is.

01:24:14.000 The best resources I could give you for that in particular is someone who I just think is a legend is focus on the family's resources from Dr. Dobson.

01:24:23.000 He's been fighting this fight well before I was alive.

01:24:26.000 He has unbelievable amount of literature and videos and podcasts on the kind of teenage sexuality question in particular, how to address that lovingly, how to go through that.

01:24:37.000 I think Dr. Dobson is one of the great, you know, treasures of our time.

01:24:41.000 I grew up listening to Focus on the Family, and I don't think we talk about him enough, especially as we're kind of going through a resource bank.

01:24:47.000 I recently went through their website and I was blown away by just how good the material is, right, Rob?

01:24:54.000 I mean, he was real, I feel like the church promoted him a lot 10 or 15 years ago, but the stuff is even better than it was then.

01:25:00.000 And it's actually more applicable.

01:25:02.000 And you go read some of his 1994 essays.

01:25:05.000 He was ahead on the trans thing, on the gay thing. 0.88

01:25:07.000 I mean, it was really good stuff.

01:25:09.000 But the resources they've developed specifically for how parents can talk about homosexuality with teenagers, I think might really bless you.

01:25:17.000 So it's just Dr. Dobson, focus on the family, go to their website, tons of free resources.

01:25:23.000 I think it would really bless you, especially as you go through those.

01:25:26.000 Family.

01:25:27.000 Family, it's called family talk, right?

01:25:29.000 Yeah.

01:25:29.000 Family talk.

01:25:30.000 It's not focused.

01:25:31.000 Well, the old folks on the family stuff, but it's family talking.

01:25:33.000 It's still focus on the families.

01:25:36.000 It still exists, right?

01:25:37.000 It does.

01:25:40.000 All right.

01:25:40.000 I can't follow the new charitable schisms.

01:25:44.000 Dr. Dobson, family talk.

01:25:47.000 Honor him.

01:25:47.000 Thank you.

01:25:48.000 Okay.

01:25:49.000 God bless you.

01:25:50.000 I was there.

01:25:51.000 Is there another one?

01:25:51.000 The final, final one.

01:25:52.000 All right.

01:25:53.000 Wait.

01:25:54.000 Okay.

01:25:54.000 All right.

01:25:54.000 I thought we had.

01:25:55.000 No, it's all right.

01:25:56.000 Yeah, thank you.

01:25:57.000 I can hold it.

01:25:57.000 Thank you.

01:25:58.000 Charlie, what an honor to be here.

01:26:00.000 Thank you, everyone.

01:26:01.000 Thank you, Pastor.

01:26:01.000 And I come from the other side.

01:26:04.000 I come from the trenches.

01:26:05.000 I'm a teacher with LA Unified and booted off campus for over a year.

01:26:12.000 They cut our pay.

01:26:13.000 I represent, there was over a thousand of us.

01:26:16.000 And I just, we're still fighting it.

01:26:19.000 I came to, or spent two hours tonight debating the unions, right?

01:26:23.000 I'm even running in their election to end this.

01:26:26.000 We've got a lawsuit.

01:26:28.000 I lead the prayer teams.

01:26:29.000 I'm a Patriot Academy coach.

01:26:30.000 It's not about me.

01:26:31.000 We've got to get a question in here.

01:26:32.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:26:33.000 It's about the kids.

01:26:35.000 How do we get the voice out for those who are still fighting?

01:26:40.000 Because the kids are what matters.

01:26:42.000 These kids whose families won't take them out of public schools.

01:26:45.000 I know.

01:26:45.000 Yeah, you're in a tough spot.

01:26:46.000 And I think I've said that a lot tonight because you are in a tough spot.

01:26:50.000 You're in California.

01:26:51.000 Yeah.

01:26:52.000 If you have a heart for staying and fighting, that's awesome.

01:26:56.000 I would just recommend and suggest to pray if God opens an opportunity for you to go to a school that is harmonic with your values.

01:27:03.000 Here's why I believe that.

01:27:04.000 I've dealt with a lot of teachers in your situation.

01:27:07.000 Teachers that don't have to worry about looking over their shoulder every single day about what they do and the curriculum they choose.

01:27:13.000 They tend to be the best teacher they can be.

01:27:16.000 Not saying you can't be in your current environment, but it's as a teacher, what are you arguing with unions?

01:27:22.000 You should be worried about educating kids, not having to circumvent educational political bureaucracy, right?

01:27:28.000 And so I just say that as a heart for you and for how you could be the best teacher to as many kids.

01:27:33.000 And then finally, I think you got to get the word out that teachers in California can leave the union, which thanks to the Supreme Court decision, they can.

01:27:40.000 And many teachers don't even know that they can do that.

01:27:43.000 So thank you.

01:27:44.000 Thanks.

01:27:45.000 All right.

01:27:45.000 It's the final question.

01:27:46.000 Now we're done after this one, all right?

01:27:48.000 I promise.

01:27:49.000 We're done.

01:27:49.000 Hello, Mr. Kirk.

01:27:50.000 It's an honor to meet you.

01:27:52.000 I have quick two questions.

01:27:53.000 Do you pray for your enemies and how do you love our neighbors, especially my generation, 20 years old, graduate high school, going to college?

01:28:00.000 How do you love your neighbor and how do you pray for your enemies during our time right now with cancel culture?

01:28:04.000 It's a great question.

01:28:05.000 I do pray for my enemies.

01:28:07.000 It does not come easily to me.

01:28:08.000 I'll be very honest.

01:28:09.000 I also do not forgive easily.

01:28:11.000 I think that people that say they forgive immediately, they're either more spiritually developed than I am or they're lying.

01:28:16.000 Because I don't, no, I'm just being very honest with you.

01:28:19.000 I'm not saying you shouldn't forgive easily.

01:28:21.000 It does not come easily to me.

01:28:23.000 And then how do you love the neighbor?

01:28:24.000 I know this.

01:28:25.000 The most loving thing strangers and/or people who love me have ever done is tell me the truth.

01:28:31.000 When they say, Charlie, you're out of line.

01:28:32.000 Charlie, you should have done this.

01:28:33.000 Or Charlie, you could have said this better.

01:28:35.000 I don't believe love is validating or platforming an error.

01:28:40.000 I think true love is introducing truth to correct that error.

01:28:45.000 So I try to love the generation by speaking truth that is Jesus Christ, that is his word, that is the Bible, that is the natural law, that is the outgrowth of the Bible, which is the greatest civilization ever to exist in the history of the world.

01:28:57.000 We're living in it, Western civilization.

01:29:00.000 And so I do pray for my enemies, as difficult as that is.

01:29:03.000 I'm going to add to it if you don't mind, unless you just want him to answer, because he's pretty smart.

01:29:09.000 I always, and the congregation knows this if they've been, if folks have attended here, I always say this: people aren't the enemy.

01:29:17.000 They're the opportunity.

01:29:18.000 Their ideology is my enemy, but they are not.

01:29:21.000 And you do good to those who spitefully use you.

01:29:23.000 It's hard to hate someone you're praying for.

01:29:26.000 And if you actually go to interact with them, and that's what I, Charlie sells himself short because what he says about not forgetting, I watch him contend on campuses in a civil and gracious manner with people who are doing ad hominem attacks on him.

01:29:40.000 And he's kind enough to stop and say, Look, okay, ask me the question.

01:29:44.000 Let's debate the issue.

01:29:46.000 Let's define the terms.

01:29:48.000 That patience and that long-suffering is love.

01:29:51.000 And he's doing good to his enemies, which is the ideology, not the person.

01:29:55.000 He respects the person.

01:29:57.000 When you're wronged, the one thing I always remember is mercy triumphs over judgment.

01:30:04.000 And the Bible says, Blessed are the merciful, for they shall receive mercy.

01:30:07.000 You want it?

01:30:08.000 You got to give it.

01:30:10.000 And we always want judgment for the person who's wronged us.

01:30:14.000 But when we are accused of something, we always want mercy.

01:30:17.000 So if we love our neighbors ourselves, give them mercy and judge yourself.

01:30:22.000 And you'll do just fine.

01:30:24.000 Amen.

01:30:24.000 Thank you.

01:30:25.000 Two final things, okay?

01:30:28.000 All right.

01:30:29.000 In closing, everybody, just two announcements, and then I'll just kind of summarize all of it.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - February 05, 2023

Live with Pastor Rob McCoy in Newbury Park

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