The Charlie Kirk Show - Luigi Mangione and "Horseshoe Terrorism"

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00:01:19.000 It is Tuesday, June 16th, here at the Y Refi Studios in Phoenix, Arizona.

00:01:25.000 Welcome back to the studio, Blake.

00:01:26.000 Howdy.

00:01:27.000 We got a lot to get to today.

00:01:29.000 There is a new story breaking this morning that apparently UFC America 250 at the White House, which was a huge triumph.

00:01:39.000 For the administration, for the country, it was a beautiful event, had actually been targeted by, it looks like domestic violent extremists.

00:01:48.000 And by that, it actually does seem to hold true.

00:01:51.000 The expression does hold true.

00:01:53.000 There's a network of dozens that have been 23 people that have been identified as part of this ring by the FBI.

00:02:01.000 There were drones that were planned to be weaponized and sent in.

00:02:05.000 They had attack zones, snipers, all kinds of things.

00:02:09.000 Let's lay it out.

00:02:10.000 So, what they caught is they caught a signal group.

00:02:12.000 The signal is a chat you can have.

00:02:13.000 On your phone, your computer.

00:02:15.000 They were in various places around the country.

00:02:17.000 And what they were talking about, as you said, was they were talking about doing a coordinated multi member attack on the Freedom 250 event.

00:02:26.000 Their idea was they would fly explosive drones into buildings to start a panic.

00:02:31.000 People would flee in specific directions, probably herded along by barriers already put up.

00:02:37.000 And then they would have sniper teams ready to open fire on them.

00:02:41.000 And it's not clear just how far they got with this, but according to the FBI, Some members of this chat did travel to Fredericksburg, Virginia, about an hour south of D.C., to a couple days before to make preparations.

00:02:56.000 Now, given how ambitious this sounds, I still get the feeling this might not have come to fruition, we can hope, but it's clearly the level of speculation where the FBI was right to get involved.

00:03:07.000 Well, and so investigators are claiming that this part of, and this is according to the New York Post, a far right accelerationist ideology, which they link to the San Diego Moss shooting.

00:03:17.000 We're going to take issues with that, but here, investigators learned that their aim is.

00:03:21.000 Was to take out capitalist elites, billionaires, and politicians who receive money from APAC, officials told the Post.

00:03:31.000 So this is a traditional way of looking at political ideologies on a linear graph, right?

00:03:40.000 You got the left and then you got the right, okay?

00:03:44.000 Now there's something called horseshoe theory, which we haven't talked about on this show because I'm.

00:03:48.000 This is a good chance to explain it.

00:03:49.000 I'm not always convinced that I believe in the way it's presented, but it is something right now that I think is becoming more and more true.

00:03:57.000 And that is the idea that it's actually a horseshoe.

00:04:00.000 And at the extreme tips, the left and right sort of bleed together and they have less distinction.

00:04:06.000 They become more like one another than different.

00:04:09.000 You're vastly more likely to see someone who is extremely politically far to the right flip to saying, actually, I'm a revolutionary socialist communist than you are to see them.

00:04:20.000 Flip the supposedly lesser distance to, oh, I'm a centrist moderate who cares about growing the economy.

00:04:27.000 I actually think this is somewhat to explain Graham Plattner, who had a Nazi tattoo.

00:04:33.000 He would have probably at some points considered himself kind of a radical fringe righty in some ways, but then they flipped over and now he's just a communist socialist.

00:04:41.000 Think about what we're seeing here.

00:04:42.000 They're saying it's far right, but on the right, we're usually more in favor of free markets, we're usually more in favor of billionaires existing.

00:04:51.000 I don't think Andrew or I have a problem with Elon Musk becoming a trillionaire because he started multiple incredibly groundbreaking companies that did amazing things for the country and for America, for their employees.

00:05:04.000 But on the far, far right, you're starting to see stuff that does sound like someone who could be a jilted Bernie Sanders fan.

00:05:10.000 We need to take out the billionaires, the billionaire class, or the Apex stuff.

00:05:15.000 We've had violent anti Israel demonstrations, and radicalism has been a thing on the left for ages, but we see it growing.

00:05:23.000 On the right as well.

00:05:25.000 And so you see this bleeding, intermingling of how they, of their sentiment.

00:05:30.000 And so you see these guys who are in the signal chat who, this could easily be the motivation of a far left cell, people who love Luigi Mangione. 0.90

00:05:38.000 Oh, we want to kill billionaires and people who take money from the Israel lobby.

00:05:43.000 That could easily be someone who's a fan of Hassan Piker. 0.99

00:05:46.000 That could easily be a fan of any number of radical left movements, but they're characterizing them as right wing here.

00:05:54.000 And so we have to start poking at that, that there is a funnel from.

00:05:58.000 I am on the right to just being a hard leftist, and that includes revolutionary violence.

00:06:04.000 Yeah, well, and this is so some of the key similarities, according to the horseshoe theory.

00:06:08.000 And again, I chew the meat and spit out the bones when it comes to this.

00:06:11.000 I don't buy it completely, but there does tend to be a draw towards authoritarianism, right?

00:06:18.000 Preference for strong centralized state power.

00:06:20.000 They have an us versus them mentality, binary worldview, conspiracy thinking, scapegoating of enemies.

00:06:27.000 Sounds pretty familiar.

00:06:28.000 By the way, based on what they just said, targeting billionaires and the elites and those who take money from AIPAC, rejection of liberalism, opposition to free markets, individual rights, compromise, all those kind of things that make a democracy function, a constitutional republic in the case of the United States, populism and totalitarianism.

00:06:47.000 See, conservative populism can be a very useful and good thing, but this is one of the things that political scientists have sort of put as the You know, something that they've seen from both sides when you talk about the horseshoe theory.

00:07:02.000 Cults of personality, propaganda, willingness to use violence or revolution.

00:07:06.000 Okay?

00:07:07.000 So, and I do think that when people look at, for example, the Nazis, you know, there's a tendency to call that a far right, fascist, you know, political ideology.

00:07:16.000 Funny thing with the Nazis.

00:07:17.000 I would actually, I would even consider that. 0.81

00:07:18.000 I think the Nazis were a radical third way ideology. 0.84

00:07:21.000 So, you might even call it radical centrism. 0.63

00:07:23.000 The point is, politics can be a complicated beast.

00:07:27.000 It's not really as simple as just a Linear line where something very far over here is as far away as you can get from something over here.

00:07:36.000 It's that getting really far away from what you might call the political mainstream means you're more likely, I'd say, to be resentful of what's going on, more likely to be just an iconoclast in general, more likely to rebel, and unfortunately, more likely, I think, to be seduced by violent fantasies.

00:07:57.000 A lot of people, if they're trying to burn down a city after George Floyd, it's not really that they're necessarily that agitated about George Floyd.

00:08:05.000 It's that they're agitated against society in general, and that gives them something.

00:08:10.000 To violently blow up against.

00:08:12.000 And I think some of that happens on the right as well.

00:08:15.000 And they end up finding a lot that they like on the left.

00:08:18.000 And that's why I want to push at this that they're getting seduced by fundamentally left wing fantasies.

00:08:25.000 Yeah, essentially it becomes left wing, right?

00:08:28.000 Because you believe in castigating an entire group or a class or scapegoating people as opposed to holding people accountable for their own actions, for example.

00:08:37.000 That would be a fundamentally left wing view of the world.

00:08:41.000 When you horseshoe around, you end up.

00:08:44.000 Exhibiting a lot of those same characteristics.

00:08:46.000 So that's why we say it.

00:08:47.000 Now, accelerationism, let's just define that as well because they're calling it a radical far right accelerationist ideology.

00:08:54.000 Now, accelerationism is where you say, we're going to burn it all down, blow up the system.

00:08:59.000 It's essentially a revolutionary perspective.

00:09:02.000 You're going to burn it all down so that out of the ashes, you can build something more ideologically pure.

00:09:08.000 So instead of working with the current GOP, for example, you are going to say, well, I'm going to vote Democrat.

00:09:08.000 Okay?

00:09:15.000 Because I want to get all these people out of office so we can replace them with people that reflect my viewpoints.

00:09:20.000 And as we've warned you, as Charlie warned before, this is an ideology of failure.

00:09:26.000 It's an ideology of rejecting real work.

00:09:28.000 To say, actually, by losing, I win is how that's your excuse for doing nothing or doing nothing useful.

00:09:34.000 And it has to be rejected.

00:09:37.000 So we have a lot of clips.

00:09:38.000 JD Vance is doing a bit of a media blitz, and I love it.

00:09:42.000 I think JD Vance is one of the most talented politicians in the entire country, regardless of which side.

00:09:48.000 When it comes to going up against adversarial media, okay?

00:09:52.000 So he actually, I think he did Fox and Friends first, if I'm not mistaken.

00:09:58.000 So he went on there and he actually addressed some of these news reports.

00:10:05.000 I wanna get to that first.

00:10:08.000 And I think he raises a really important point here SOT 23.

00:10:11.000 So much of the far left rhetoric is driving itself towards violence.

00:10:15.000 We're trying to look at the underground networks that drive towards this violence.

00:10:19.000 23 people do not get to the point where they're going to commit a mass terror incident in Washington, D.C., without some serious funding, without some serious coordination.

00:10:27.000 And we've actually been trying to go with those networks of coordination because this is a terrorist plot.

00:10:32.000 That's not a few guys doing crazy stuff, that is a coordinated, planned terrorist plot.

00:10:37.000 Thank God we thwarted it, but we've got to do more of that stuff.

00:10:40.000 Yeah, and he's right.

00:10:42.000 It is a terrorist plot.

00:10:43.000 And we do have a picture of one of these guys.

00:10:45.000 His name is Tyson Proper out of Ohio.

00:10:49.000 He's been arrested by the FBI for helping to plan this.

00:10:53.000 I mean, just look at this guy.

00:10:54.000 Now, you look at this guy, and again, to our earlier point, you'd think he kind of looks like a winger, right winger.

00:11:00.000 But this is what happens when you become an extremist, when you're bent on violence and revolution.

00:11:06.000 Your ideology becomes indistinguishable from that of many people on the violent left.

00:11:11.000 Yeah, I could see that guy getting arrested at a Portland courthouse, too.

00:11:15.000 Yeah, I see that.

00:11:15.000 He would just need like one tattoo, and then it would look art perfectly.

00:11:19.000 He's one step away from being full Antifa. 0.52

00:11:21.000 That's the point we're making.

00:11:23.000 So, and that's a trend that we're seeing in our politics.

00:11:25.000 Okay, so JD goes on The View, and I mean, he's going through everything.

00:11:29.000 The guy is just so talented at this.

00:11:32.000 So, for example, on affordability, he says that they're alleging that Trump doesn't care about affordability.

00:11:37.000 He calls that a hoax.

00:11:41.000 Here we go.

00:11:41.000 Jeffrey Epstein.

00:11:42.000 I know this is interesting for a lot of you out there, so let's go ahead and play it.

00:11:45.000 36.

00:11:47.000 One of the things you see in the Epstein emails is that Jeffrey Epstein hated Donald Trump and that Donald Trump literally reported Jeffrey Epstein to the police.

00:11:56.000 That's one of the things that came out of these files.

00:11:57.000 They were best friends for about a decade.

00:11:59.000 And remember, he signed that Transparency Act under duress.

00:12:03.000 When some Republican women, Congresswomen like Lauren Boebert, like Marjorie Taylor Greene, did not give in to his pressure of not signing. 1.00

00:12:10.000 He brought Lauren Boebert into the Situation Room to pressure her into caving on not voting for that bill. 0.99

00:12:17.000 So let me respond to that. 0.71

00:12:18.000 That's all true.

00:12:19.000 Let me respond to that.

00:12:20.000 So, number one is yes, Donald Trump, he said this.

00:12:23.000 He knew Jeffrey Epstein back in the 1980s.

00:12:25.000 He also threw Jeffrey Epstein out of his club when he found out he was a creep and reported him to the police.

00:12:30.000 That's something that the media often misses when it reports the story.

00:12:33.000 They tell the fact that they knew each other in the 80s, which the president himself admits.

00:12:37.000 They ignore the fact that he narked on him to the police and led ultimately to Jeffrey Epstein's downfall.

00:12:43.000 And by the way, the New York Post is actually reporting that his lawyer, Epstein's lawyer, says that he was obsessed with taking down Trump in his final days.

00:12:53.000 So before Jeffrey Epstein died, committed suicide, or was killed, whatever happened to him, he was obsessed with President Trump.

00:12:59.000 Why?

00:13:00.000 Because President Trump ended up being successful, President of the United States.

00:13:04.000 Yeah, they did have real estate squabbles in.

00:13:08.000 Florida.

00:13:09.000 That's probably one of the reasons they don't like each other.

00:13:12.000 But President Trump reported him to the police, narked on him, as JD said.

00:13:17.000 It's a huge thing that the left doesn't want to talk about.

00:13:19.000 But, you know, he continues on here, by the way.

00:13:24.000 Actually, I don't think we have that clip, but he continued on in the clip and basically dismantled every single Epstein accusation that they're throwing at him.

00:13:32.000 For example, President Trump, JD says he was there when President Trump called the Senate and said, pass the Transparency Act.

00:13:38.000 I want to sign it.

00:13:40.000 So President Trump.

00:13:41.000 Okay.

00:13:42.000 And this happened to me.

00:13:43.000 Anytime you talk about Jeffrey Epstein, you have to do so of fear and trembling of getting clipped up on the internet and misrepresented.

00:13:48.000 For example, last week on Thursday, I said there was no there, there when it came to their deliberations inside the Situation Room.

00:13:55.000 I read the article from the New York Times, but I did not mean that there was no there, there at all.

00:14:00.000 I'm with JD.

00:14:01.000 JD said this in this interview with The View this morning that I believe there's a there, there.

00:14:05.000 Some guy, some crazy con man doesn't get that rich and powerful and that much influence without there being some there, there.

00:14:13.000 What I meant was there was no there there with President Trump.

00:14:16.000 And they acknowledged that in the Situation Room.

00:14:18.000 They said, hey, let's go full transparency.

00:14:20.000 There's nothing to hide from President Trump.

00:14:22.000 So that's the point.

00:14:23.000 And JD made that point very clearly.

00:14:24.000 President Trump picked up the phone and said, let's get full transparency.

00:14:28.000 So, anyways, there's lots of great clips here.

00:14:31.000 Blake, I don't know if any of these are standing out.

00:14:33.000 Oh, you know what?

00:14:34.000 This was great too.

00:14:35.000 37, where JD is explaining why he went from Trump critic to the vice president.

00:14:40.000 37.

00:14:40.000 I was a critic of Donald Trump back in 2015 and 2016.

00:14:43.000 Now, obviously, I'm sitting here as the vice president of the United States in the Trump administration.

00:14:48.000 Well, Joy, a little humility, actually.

00:14:51.000 I think that when you make predictions and those predictions turn out to be false, you got to ask yourself, well, what made me wrong about that?

00:14:57.000 What did I not understand or not appreciate?

00:15:00.000 For example, I said that Donald Trump's economic policies would not lead to wage growth.

00:15:05.000 They did in the first term.

00:15:07.000 That was actually a major, major thing.

00:15:09.000 I said that we couldn't bring back any of those factory jobs because I kind of had given in to this idea that those jobs were disappearing.

00:15:15.000 But actually, Donald Trump, you saw a manufacturing boom.

00:15:18.000 During that administration.

00:15:19.000 Wait, wait, wait, hold on.

00:15:22.000 Let me just.

00:15:23.000 Let me just.

00:15:23.000 So, there's a certain point where you say, you know, I made predictions about this.

00:15:27.000 I ended up being wrong.

00:15:29.000 And in politics and anything, I think it's important to just say, you know what?

00:15:32.000 I got some things wrong and I was wrong about him.

00:15:35.000 A little humility, Blake.

00:15:37.000 That's refreshing to hear from a politician.

00:15:40.000 A little humility.

00:15:41.000 Good for you, JD Vance.

00:15:42.000 I just think, again, I don't know what took them so long to put him on this media tour, but, you know, he's doing Fox and Friends.

00:15:49.000 He's doing Megyn Kelly.

00:15:50.000 He's doing The View.

00:15:51.000 He did Sean Hannity last night.

00:15:54.000 But it's well timed because he's got to, he's going to have to be the chief messenger of this peace deal.

00:16:00.000 The Iran Iran peace deal.

00:16:01.000 And it's going to be, we know it's going to be a challenge with some constituencies.

00:16:05.000 And he's going to have to be able to pass this test because it's only going to get harder if he runs in 2028.

00:16:10.000 So this is a good battleground for a very important war we have to wage.

00:16:15.000 He did make a comment, too, that a lot of people are taking notice of that he believes that the president will be supportive of him, whatever he decides to do.

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00:17:25.000 All right, so Steve Hilton is actually finishing up a press conference.

00:17:30.000 Vailing his tax plan for the Golden State.

00:17:32.000 We'll get him as soon as we can.

00:17:34.000 But there is another we mentioned going out of the last segment that JD's media tour is well timed because he's got to be a spokesman for the Iran deal, which some people are skeptical of.

00:17:44.000 So he's making the case for peace for America, for a vibe shift back to a domestic focus.

00:17:50.000 He's had a lot to say about it.

00:17:51.000 Let's play clip 26.

00:17:54.000 This is good for the American people. 1.00

00:17:56.000 The Iranians don't get a dime unless they behave and change their behavior. 0.54

00:18:00.000 And this means that Iran will never have a nuclear weapon. 0.89

00:18:03.000 So, you say they don't get a dime.

00:18:04.000 Do they ever get an American dime, a taxpayer dollar?

00:18:08.000 So, number one, first of all, they never get a dime of American taxpayer money, ever.

00:18:08.000 No.

00:18:12.000 Full stop.

00:18:13.000 Not even close.

00:18:14.000 And that's been a big piece of misinformation that's been put out there is that American money will somehow go to them.

00:18:20.000 Now, there is a promise, potentially.

00:18:22.000 It's not a promise.

00:18:23.000 There is a carrot and a stick deal, right?

00:18:26.000 So, if they misbehave, they get the stick.

00:18:28.000 If they behave well, they get the carrot.

00:18:30.000 That regional partners could invest, if they so choose, no obligation to do so.

00:18:35.000 In a redevelopment fund for Iran, right? 0.83

00:18:37.000 Iran's been obliterated. 0.50

00:18:38.000 Its infrastructure is crumbling. 1.00

00:18:40.000 There could be incentives for good behavior.

00:18:42.000 That's how any deal should be structured.

00:18:44.000 The point of this has to be that the goal of this throughout is we don't actually want to be in a permanent war with Iran.

00:18:54.000 We want to actually have a productive relationship with Iran.

00:18:57.000 And so any peace deal is going to have a component of if you guys stop chasing after a nuclear bomb, if you stop treating America as the great Satan, if you stop.

00:19:06.000 Endlessly creating conflict with us, this can be a favorable relationship.

00:19:11.000 You can grow.

00:19:12.000 You can be as rich as Saudi Arabia or the United Arab Emirates or Qatar, these countries that don't wage war on us. 0.98

00:19:19.000 And so they're far lovelier countries to be in than Iran. 0.62

00:19:23.000 So you do want to be able to offer those carrots, but they are conditional, as he says. 0.92

00:19:28.000 Yeah.

00:19:29.000 And it looks like we're close to having Steve.

00:19:32.000 Wow, we have Steve.

00:19:33.000 Excellent.

00:19:34.000 Steve Hilton, the next governor of the great state of California.

00:19:38.000 Welcome, sir.

00:19:38.000 I know you just wrapped up a press conference.

00:19:40.000 You ran right over here.

00:19:42.000 You're very generous with your time.

00:19:43.000 So thank you for that.

00:19:45.000 Tell us the breaking news.

00:19:46.000 Let's start there.

00:19:47.000 You just, Sacramento's, you know, passing a bunch of new taxes on the people of California.

00:19:53.000 You've got a different vision.

00:19:54.000 And it looks like he might have froze.

00:19:56.000 You know, California's infrastructure is crumbling.

00:19:59.000 Do we have him?

00:20:01.000 Okay, we're hanging.

00:20:03.000 So why don't we just throw up his tweet if we can?

00:20:07.000 We do have that.

00:20:09.000 He's got a vision for California's tax future that is distinct from, I think it's fair to say.

00:20:14.000 Yeah, he said basically the corrupt establishment system in Sacramento just.

00:20:20.000 Passed a bunch of new taxes.

00:20:21.000 And so today, Steve unveiled his own tax plan.

00:20:25.000 And it looks like we may or may not have him.

00:20:27.000 No, he's frozen again, folks.

00:20:29.000 This is what happens.

00:20:29.000 This is live TV.

00:20:30.000 This is what's happening in California.

00:20:32.000 It's crumbling.

00:20:33.000 This is the state that gave us the internet.

00:20:35.000 So I thought that was Al Gore.

00:20:35.000 All right.

00:20:38.000 Oh, you know, but the people who actually did it.

00:20:42.000 So I'm going to wait for Steve until he can describe it himself.

00:20:45.000 But another big story dropped yesterday that is of note.

00:20:49.000 And that is that Gavin Newsom came out and said that he is under investigation.

00:20:53.000 He and his wife.

00:20:54.000 By the Department of Justice.

00:20:56.000 And he's blaming Trump, of course.

00:20:58.000 SOP 30.

00:20:59.000 In recent days, federal agents have knocked on the doors of family, friends, and former employees.

00:21:04.000 Not because they found a crime, because they're simply trying to find one.

00:21:09.000 They're demanding records.

00:21:10.000 They're abusing the grand jury process, digging through years and years of random documents.

00:21:16.000 Donald Trump isn't just coming after me because of my mean tweets.

00:21:21.000 He's coming after me because I'm considering running for president.

00:21:25.000 Because he hates that I've consistently called him out over and over again for his lies and deceit. 0.99

00:21:32.000 Donald Trump is simply the most corrupt president in American history. 0.99

00:21:38.000 Mr. President, come after me. 0.98

00:21:40.000 I'm not going anywhere, and the country is watching.

00:21:44.000 He might also have thrown in, they're coming after me because my former chief of staff just pleaded guilty to three felonies a few weeks ago.

00:21:51.000 Might be something related to it, but we do finally have Steve back, it looks like.

00:21:55.000 So, Steve, are you there?

00:21:57.000 Guys, you're so right, by the way.

00:21:59.000 We're on the road the whole time in California.

00:22:03.000 I cannot tell you the amount of times the calls drop, you can't get a signal with the tech capital of the world, but can't get a phone signal.

00:22:11.000 Sorry about that.

00:22:12.000 No, you're good. 0.89

00:22:13.000 So, quickly on the tax plan, we have the highest cost of living in the country because of their insane policies.

00:22:21.000 And then yesterday, they passed another budget, increasing spending, increasing taxes, including another $400 on people's health insurance plans if you have private health insurance. 0.85

00:22:31.000 At the same time as they're increasing by billions of dollars, spending on free health care for illegal immigrants. 0.80

00:22:37.000 So they're basically gouging California's. 0.87

00:22:39.000 Javier Becerra just wants more of the same.

00:22:41.000 He's my opponent.

00:22:42.000 Today, I announced my tax plan, which is to increase the amount that you get tax free.

00:22:48.000 Last year, I put forward a plan, your first 100 grand tax free.

00:22:52.000 That got great reaction.

00:22:54.000 We've been on the road.

00:22:55.000 People have been saying we love it.

00:22:57.000 But actually, there's a lot of people in California, 100 grand doesn't get you very far.

00:23:00.000 A lot of states, a lot of counties, that's a Officially, the level for low income.

00:23:05.000 So, people have been saying, can we raise it?

00:23:07.000 And that's what I'm announcing today.

00:23:10.000 Now it's going to be $150,000 tax free.

00:23:13.000 The way we can pay for that is a slight adjustment to what I was going to do above $100,000, which was a flat tax of 7.5%.

00:23:21.000 Now that's going to be 8%.

00:23:23.000 So that's how we make it work.

00:23:24.000 But the bottom line is 9 million Californians who earn $150,000 or less will now no longer pay state income tax when I'm governor.

00:23:34.000 I can't imagine there would be too many that would be upset with that, Steve.

00:23:39.000 There's a lot of voters.

00:23:40.000 9 million is a lot.

00:23:42.000 So hopefully we get the word out.

00:23:44.000 Because you know, you guys in the state of California, and I used to live there, the state income tax is a huge, huge deal.

00:23:51.000 I mean, I think the top bracket is 13.1%.

00:23:53.000 13.3%.

00:23:55.000 And the thing that's outrageous is that it's really complicated, you've got all these different rates.

00:24:00.000 But what's outrageous is that after 72 grand of earnings, which really you struggle to live on that in California, you're paying 9.3% state income tax.

00:24:13.000 That is higher than the top rate in most other states. 0.82

00:24:17.000 Ridiculous. 0.95

00:24:18.000 And that's why this plan makes such sense. 0.84

00:24:21.000 And I, but if I don't know how long we have, but if you want me to sort of jump in on the Gavin Newsom thing, I'll just point one thing out.

00:24:29.000 Okay.

00:24:31.000 What's we don't know, I don't know the details, right?

00:24:33.000 We're waiting to see.

00:24:34.000 There's reporting from serious reporters in Sacramento that this whole thing was initiated not by Donald Trump, as Newsom is pretending, but by whistleblowers within California.

00:24:46.000 And the whole thing began under the partly under the Biden administration in the first place.

00:24:51.000 I don't know the details, so I don't want to comment till we've seen more.

00:24:54.000 What I will say is that you've got a system of legalized corruption in California politics.

00:25:00.000 And one of the things that's most outrageous is this thing, which when I first heard about it, I couldn't believe called behested payments.

00:25:08.000 Behested payments are when a politician, and Newsom has used this extensively, literally can phone someone up and say, I'd like you to give money to this or that cause.

00:25:21.000 And the cause can often be very connected to his own.

00:25:26.000 Political work.

00:25:27.000 For example, there's something called the California Protocol Project or something, which basically funds foreign trips for the governor.

00:25:36.000 That counts as being able to get a behested payment, which is just totally outrageous.

00:25:41.000 And one of the things that's been going on is that he's been asking companies and others to give money to his wife's nonprofit.

00:25:49.000 And that's one of the speculations that some of this investigation is to do with that.

00:25:55.000 But what's completely outrageous.

00:25:57.000 It's that you've got a you've got not just the governor, other politicians can phone people up, businesses who they regulate, and ask them to give money to their pet causes.

00:26:08.000 It is legalized corruption and it has to end.

00:26:11.000 I will stop it.

00:26:12.000 Well, and you know, it's interesting because you've got Gavin Newsom, you've got Jennifer Seibel Newsom, you've got Javier Becerra, who's also got issues, uh, a scandal plaguing him with I think his former chief of staff.

00:26:27.000 He took him to Washington, but the.

00:26:29.000 You articulated it brilliantly in the debate where he didn't think he was going to get paid enough money in government, so they found a workaround to get him more money.

00:26:36.000 Exactly.

00:26:38.000 It is corruption at the deepest level because they all feel so entitled to these kickbacks and greasing the skids.

00:26:45.000 That's what you get with one party rule.

00:26:48.000 16 years now, where it's one party rule, they think they can get away with anything.

00:26:52.000 They feel entitled to public money.

00:26:55.000 They feel entitled to endlessly increase, you know, gouge taxpayers by increasing budgets and then handing it out.

00:27:03.000 To their pet causes, whether that's government unions, left wing causes, and activists.

00:27:07.000 This is why we have to end the corruption.

00:27:10.000 That's the top line of my argument in this campaign.

00:27:13.000 I'm going to go to Sacramento and clean up this corrupt system that has given us the highest cost of living, the highest poverty rate, the highest unemployment rate in America, because they don't care about regular people.

00:27:25.000 They just care about their own insider interests.

00:27:28.000 And that's the corruption you get from one party rule.

00:27:30.000 That's why I'm confident we're going to win this year.

00:27:32.000 Well, it's such a good point, Steve.

00:27:34.000 This should be the pitch.

00:27:36.000 I don't care what you think of Republicans or the R, the scarlet letter R in.

00:27:41.000 California, for some, right?

00:27:43.000 I don't care what you think.

00:27:44.000 It is insane to continue giving one party unchecked rule of a state as big and important and rich as California.

00:27:53.000 All you will get is corruption, bloat, and absolute misery for the people, which is what you're seeing.

00:27:59.000 So who cares exactly what letter is next to Steve's name?

00:28:02.000 You need somebody to put these people on notice and check them.

00:28:06.000 All right, Steve, I haven't had you back on since all the election fiasco stuff.

00:28:11.000 All right, yeah.

00:28:12.000 Spencer Pratt gets totally railroaded in.

00:28:15.000 In Los Angeles.

00:28:17.000 I think it was harder for them to pull off this kind of organized scheme statewide.

00:28:23.000 You withstood the onslaught.

00:28:25.000 You came in second, though, even though you were leading on all the polls.

00:28:29.000 But you are now in the runoff against Javier Becerra, which is what we wanted.

00:28:32.000 So, hey, we got here.

00:28:35.000 First, what do you make of all of the allegations, the investigation by the U.S. Attorney's Office, Bill Asale?

00:28:41.000 So many others are now looking into it.

00:28:43.000 First question.

00:28:44.000 Second question what is it going to take to win? 0.63

00:28:47.000 So, on the whole voting thing, I mean, obviously, there's the complete fiasco of how long it takes, and that's ridiculous.

00:28:53.000 And I had a whole plan for accelerating that.

00:28:55.000 And the biggest thing we can do to stop all that insanity is have voter ID, which is going to be on the ballot in November.

00:29:02.000 And that's a big part of the story of how I'm going to win, by the way.

00:29:07.000 On the voting, I think it's very important to understand the connection between what we saw happen, particularly in LA, and some of these reports that I've been putting out through.

00:29:19.000 We've talked over the months about Cal Doge and the fraud reports that we've put out.

00:29:25.000 Many of the examples of fraud that we've uncovered in the system in California have been examples of public money being siphoned off into Democrat front organizations that do political activity to build the Democrat machine.

00:29:41.000 The very first fraud report that we published back in, I think, February, was $350 million that we found from the cannabis tax in California that was supposed to be spent on.

00:29:53.000 Substance abuse prevention actually going to over 500 Democrat organizations.

00:29:58.000 And then when you look at what they do, it is voter registration and ballot harvesting.

00:30:04.000 And so what you're seeing in these elections is the culmination of the machine that they've built up through the fraud over the years.

00:30:14.000 It's a very important connection.

00:30:15.000 It's not actually illegal, it's just outrageous and corrupt.

00:30:20.000 In terms of what it's going to take to win, it's basically what I've been talking about here today.

00:30:25.000 My plan to make our state cal affordable.

00:30:28.000 Your first 150 grand tax free, $3 gas, cut your utility bills in half, a home you can afford to buy.

00:30:35.000 It's positive, practical things that are not particularly ideological.

00:30:39.000 They're not partisan.

00:30:41.000 They just give people some relief after the endless gouging on taxes and the increasing cost through the bloat in the government and the insanity of this one party rule.

00:30:53.000 So I think we've got, look, I know that people look at this race, especially here, the Democrats, they're totally complacent.

00:30:59.000 They assume they've got it in the bag.

00:31:00.000 Becerra's going to be the governor.

00:31:02.000 They have no idea what's about to hit them in terms of the energy and the force of this campaign that we're about to run, both in holding him accountable, Becerra, who you couldn't get someone who's the living embodiment of more of the same.

00:31:18.000 36 years a career politician in the California corrupt machine.

00:31:23.000 And so we will be ferocious in holding him to account because what is he?

00:31:28.000 He's just more of the same cost, incompetence, failure, and corruption.

00:31:32.000 And we're going to be very strong on that, as well as laying out.

00:31:35.000 A positive alternative centered around my plan to make our state cal affordable.

00:31:40.000 They haven't faced a candidate like me, they don't understand what's about to hit them.

00:31:44.000 This race is going to be much closer than anyone thinks.

00:31:47.000 I'm very confident that we can win, not least because a majority of Californians now on every poll it's 57, 60% think that it's time for change.

00:31:58.000 We're going in the wrong direction, and that's why in November I think there's going to be a shock, and the whole country is going to hear it.

00:32:06.000 Steve, you're so right.

00:32:07.000 Becerra is he is. 0.93

00:32:09.000 Such an awful candidate. 0.79

00:32:11.000 Even the Democrats don't like this guy. 0.99

00:32:12.000 He was an incompetent in D.C.

00:32:15.000 He made nothing but enemies. 0.98

00:32:16.000 He has corrupt scandals plaguing him.

00:32:18.000 The big question for me is not would a majority of Californians choose you in a straight up election?

00:32:24.000 The bigger question is you talk about these NGOs, the machine.

00:32:28.000 They're out registering homeless people.

00:32:31.000 They're out paying them for votes.

00:32:32.000 We've seen it on camera.

00:32:33.000 These homeless people are admitting what they're doing.

00:32:36.000 The machine is the question, right?

00:32:38.000 So I just tried to.

00:32:40.000 Do a little search on how much money from the state budget goes to NGOs annually.

00:32:45.000 And it's basically, it comes up in short, it's difficult to pin down, but tens of billions annually is the most accurate high level answer.

00:32:53.000 Tens of billions are going to this cabal, this network of NGOs that is a complete corruption of the system and it's a bastardization of the intent of an NGO.

00:33:03.000 And it's just used to enforce and protect their power structure.

00:33:08.000 That's right.

00:33:09.000 It's exactly right.

00:33:09.000 We've been documenting that.

00:33:11.000 What I would say is, yeah, they've got the machine, but we got the people.

00:33:14.000 People want change in California.

00:33:16.000 Yes.

00:33:17.000 And I really feel, I just feel that there's no way that they're going to vote for more of the same when it's so painful for regular people.

00:33:26.000 Now, we're going to work very hard.

00:33:28.000 We're going to build our own machine, by the way.

00:33:30.000 We're going to get our vote out, and voter ID being on the ballot in November is going to bring a lot of people out to vote for our side.

00:33:39.000 Steve, do you believe that Spencer Pratt had the election stolen from him?

00:33:43.000 No, I don't think it's a stolen question.

00:33:45.000 The trouble is, it's legal.

00:33:47.000 This is legalized corruption.

00:33:49.000 And so it's not the right way of thinking about it.

00:33:53.000 I think that the truth is that they've built a corrupt machine and it's worked as intended.

00:33:59.000 But that's what we're up against.

00:34:01.000 And we have to be really clear about that.

00:34:03.000 Of course, once I'm elected, we've got to stop this corruption and the fraud and the flow of taxpayer money to build the Democrat machine.

00:34:11.000 That's got to stop.

00:34:12.000 You don't need to break the law when it's perfectly legal for you to.

00:34:16.000 Send paid activists to go door to door, find everyone who's got a mail ballot to every single person.

00:34:21.000 They can go to every homeless person, help them fill out the ballot, witness the signature.

00:34:26.000 Why break the law?

00:34:27.000 The law is entirely on your side.

00:34:29.000 Steve, we got to go, but we have your back 100%.

00:34:31.000 We're watching very closely.

00:34:32.000 If you can pull this off, Steve, you will be an all time hero, and we've got your back.

00:34:37.000 Everybody supports Steve's campaign.

00:34:39.000 He needs all the funding and resources you can send him.

00:34:42.000 God bless you, Steve.

00:34:43.000 Good to see you.

00:34:43.000 Thank you, guys.

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00:35:47.000 All right, so as you guys know, it is Pride Month, unfortunately, which I tend to think is an abomination, genuinely.

00:35:56.000 It is a deadly sin. 0.98

00:35:57.000 It is a deadly sin.

00:35:58.000 The worst of the seven deadly sins, conventionally.

00:36:01.000 And, you know, it's interesting.

00:36:02.000 We just had JD Vance talking about what reconciled him to President Trump, and that was humility.

00:36:07.000 And that is a good thing.

00:36:08.000 So we should lift up the humble, not the proud.

00:36:12.000 Okay?

00:36:12.000 So, anyways, so the Giants, San Francisco Giants, obviously, San Francisco being somewhat enthusiastic about pride.

00:36:21.000 It's somewhat prideful, San Francisco.

00:36:23.000 They have a pride night.

00:36:25.000 And guess what?

00:36:26.000 They had a rainbow colored logo for the hats.

00:36:30.000 But three pitchers decided they were going to rebel, and they included Bible verses on the hats.

00:36:39.000 Please show these hats for the good folks at home.

00:36:43.000 The hats are colorful with Bible verses.

00:36:46.000 There they go, right there.

00:36:48.000 There's one.

00:36:50.000 And three pitchers did this.

00:36:53.000 And the MLB decided, in its great wisdom, to issue a warning.

00:36:59.000 And this is pitchers Landon Roop, JT Brubaker, and Ryan Walker.

00:37:06.000 And they did this during the Pride night game against the Chicago Cubs.

00:37:09.000 So, Pat Courtney, MLB's chief communication officer, said in a statement that the writing on the cap violates our rules and consistent with normal practices.

00:37:19.000 We have warned the players about future violations.

00:37:21.000 Now, so the MLB's perspective is that they're not fining them for liking the Bible or warning them about potential fines for liking the Bible.

00:37:31.000 It's that you can't alter the uniform on the field, there is a rule against that.

00:37:38.000 All three wrote Genesis 9, 12 through 6 on their cap.

00:37:42.000 Which, let's read it.

00:37:43.000 Do you have it ready to go?

00:37:44.000 A reference to Genesis 9, 12 through 6, in which God establishes a covenant with humanity after the biblical flood using the rainbow as its sign.

00:37:52.000 Yes, it says, I'll do the King James version because that's what popped up.

00:37:55.000 And God said, This is the token of the covenant which I made between you and between me and you and every living creature that is with you for perpetual generations.

00:38:03.000 I do set my bow in the cloud, and it shall be for a token of a covenant between me and the earth.

00:38:20.000 This is the famous part of the scriptures where God promises never to flood the earth again.

00:38:29.000 And it's a beautiful thing.

00:38:31.000 And He sends the rainbow up into the sky.

00:38:33.000 And it's a symbol that every time we see the bow, the rainbow in the sky, that God is saying, He.

00:38:40.000 Has made a covenant with us as humans to never kill us all, okay?

00:38:44.000 That he will never flood the earth again.

00:38:46.000 Now, so they were speaking with reporters after the game.

00:38:50.000 Mr. Roop said, one of the pitchers, the passage was not intended as an attack.

00:38:54.000 It's just about God's covenant and a promise that he makes to us, his faithfulness and his mercy, he said, according to Sports Illustrated.

00:39:01.000 That's just kind of something I believe in, and I stand firm in that.

00:39:05.000 Now, I'm all for this.

00:39:07.000 I think this was brilliant, by the way, that they did this because Reclaim the Rainbow is, I think, a tremendous campaign, and we should reclaim the rainbow.

00:39:16.000 God's covenant of life and mercy to us all has somehow been co opted.

00:39:21.000 By the LGBTQIA, CIA, plus MS, you got the acronym. 0.91

00:39:27.000 Blake's always good at the acronym. 0.77

00:39:28.000 MS13.

00:39:29.000 The MS13 folks. 1.00

00:39:32.000 Literally, they are the rainbow jihadis. 0.96

00:39:35.000 How did God's symbol of mercy for humanity get co opted by people that basically stand in defiance of God's order and his design?

00:39:46.000 Now, I think it's very appropriate to show compassion and mercy and friendship to people that experience.

00:39:55.000 That kind of lifestyle, or maybe they struggle with it.

00:39:56.000 I know there's a lot of Christians that have, you know, experienced that or struggled with that that don't want to live that way.

00:40:04.000 And that's, I admire that, okay?

00:40:06.000 But when you are proud, pride, pride is loudly shouting it and saying, this is something I am so excited about and I'm proud of it.

00:40:16.000 And by the way, it's not just enough to tolerate me.

00:40:20.000 It's not just what Charlie would warn about.

00:40:22.000 It's not just enough to put up or say, live and let live.

00:40:22.000 Yes.

00:40:26.000 No, they want to be celebrated.

00:40:28.000 And ultimately, they want you to participate in this.

00:40:31.000 And this is what they want for your children.

00:40:33.000 And we've seen this. 0.99

00:40:33.000 And this is why all the pushback of the trans insanity was so powerful because finally we said enough is enough. 0.99

00:40:40.000 And yes, Charlie did talk about it. 1.00

00:40:41.000 There is a cycle, it goes from tolerance all the way to participation.

00:40:45.000 And they will make you do it.

00:40:46.000 And that's what they made the San Francisco Giants pitchers do the entire team.

00:40:51.000 They had to participate, they had to put the rainbow on their cap and celebrate Pride Night.

00:40:55.000 Why?

00:40:55.000 Because they're part of a professional sports league.

00:40:59.000 That endorses this.

00:41:01.000 And they said, listen, the rainbow is a symbol from God actually about his mercy to humanity after the flood.

00:41:07.000 It's a covenant with God.

00:41:09.000 And they get warned about this.

00:41:11.000 Now, Blake, the question is do you believe their explanation that this was actually just standard protocol?

00:41:19.000 You can't alter the uniforms.

00:41:21.000 I think that if the player, we've seen this, where if players are breaking the rules and it's in an ideologically approved direction, they're not going to make as big a fuss about it.

00:41:32.000 If this was mercifully, their games were canceled during peak COVID, so we didn't have to endure this as much.

00:41:38.000 But if they were breaking the rules, if George Floyd had died and they said, I'm going to draw one of those black power fists on my hat, I don't think the MLB would do much about it.

00:41:48.000 I don't think they would say much about it.

00:41:50.000 And I think these men found a very reasonable way to show, I don't really like this, but I'm not going to scream about it.

00:41:56.000 I'm going to write a Bible verse that incorporates the rainbow.

00:42:00.000 That is a very light touch way of going about this.

00:42:03.000 They could throw the hats in the garbage, they could say, They could make a big fuss and they could get themselves in a lot more trouble.

00:42:10.000 We'd probably enjoy it if they did.

00:42:12.000 But they took a very mild approach.

00:42:14.000 And I think MLB is showing how intensely this is the new.

00:42:20.000 They want to make it a part of the national religion that you have to believe this and you have to celebrate it.

00:42:24.000 This is the civic religion of the United States.

00:42:27.000 Had become before President Trump that thou shalt worship at the altar of the LGBTQ folks, that you will be a part of it, you will be complicit, you will accept.

00:42:38.000 You will celebrate and you will participate in it. 0.97

00:42:41.000 And for the MLB to warn them and to go on record warning them is a very disastrous misstep for the MLB because I can assure you, MLB, there are more of us than there are of the people that believe in this pride propaganda garbage. 0.82

00:42:55.000 Okay.

00:42:56.000 Your fans are not doing Pride Month, most of them.

00:43:01.000 Okay.

00:43:02.000 This is a huge mistake for you guys to take this on and to go public with it.

00:43:06.000 So, to this, I don't know who's the guy here again.

00:43:12.000 Landon Roop, no, that's one of the good guys.

00:43:15.000 MLB's chief communications officer, Pat Courtney.

00:43:18.000 You should not be warning the players.

00:43:21.000 You should take warning.

00:43:23.000 Because if you go through with this, if you find them for standing up for their faith, their Christian faith, in a subtle act, as Blake said, a classy, understated protest, then you will have holy hell rain down on you from your fans.

00:43:39.000 And you don't want that.

00:43:41.000 MLB is America's sport.

00:43:42.000 They might have holy hell rain on them from somewhere else in the country, too.

00:43:46.000 You do not want to take on the fans of the MLB because I guarantee you they do not agree with your stance, MLB.

00:43:52.000 And it shows the capture, the corporate capture, and the ideological capture at the top levels of America's Sports League.

00:43:59.000 And it's disgusting.

00:44:00.000 And we don't want any more of it.

00:44:02.000 And keep America's game pure, please.

00:44:05.000 We want nothing to do with this.

00:44:06.000 And if anything, this is getting off easy.

00:44:10.000 And God bless these guys for doing something.

00:44:12.000 We know there are players who could say something and do nothing at all.

00:44:15.000 So God bless them because.

00:44:17.000 We are supposed to be public Christians.

00:44:19.000 We are supposed to do the brave thing rather than the safe thing.

00:44:22.000 Man, I totally agree.

00:44:23.000 They are totally brave.

00:44:24.000 And, you know, you might even go buy some of their jerseys, although that would benefit the San Francisco Giants.

00:44:29.000 Maybe you can get one custom jerry rigged one.

00:44:31.000 Yes, exactly.

00:44:32.000 Support those players.

00:44:33.000 So there's a couple more stories related to the Giants story that we just covered that I want to get into.

00:44:39.000 So obviously, the MLB is being anti Christian.

00:44:42.000 By the way, God bless Rob Schneider for volunteering to pay any of the fines that these players might.

00:44:48.000 Incur, which I mean, they make a lot of money, but some of these pitchers actually don't.

00:44:51.000 What's the MLB minimum?

00:44:52.000 It's like, oh, it's a few hundred thousand.

00:44:54.000 But some guys are only in the league.

00:44:55.000 It's not like the NFL, where if you're on a team, you're probably there for a full season.

00:44:59.000 Some of these guys, they get called up, they go back down.

00:45:04.000 Some guys oscillate constantly, so they're actually in this middle income range.

00:45:08.000 And if you're also a pitcher, you blow out your arm once and you're just done.

00:45:13.000 And that can easily happen to some of these players.

00:45:16.000 Pro sports can be a very brief stint in the spotlight.

00:45:19.000 Yeah, they're not all rich.

00:45:20.000 The point is, so Rob Schneider.

00:45:22.000 Coming to their defense is great.

00:45:24.000 And they pay those California taxes we were just talking about.

00:45:26.000 Yeah, you know, there's actually some players that refuse to play in New York or California because of the tax situation.

00:45:26.000 Oh, my goodness.

00:45:31.000 Oh, God bless them.

00:45:32.000 Yeah, seriously.

00:45:34.000 So we're talking about anti Christian bias.

00:45:36.000 Well, there's a new report out from Fox News.

00:45:39.000 You can throw the headline up.

00:45:40.000 Report links anti Christian extremism and assassination culture to alleged plot against Erica Kirk and others.

00:45:48.000 This isn't just Erica, but there wasn't a man arrested that had plotted to harm Turning Point and Erica at our Women's Leadership Summit just last week in San Antonio.

00:46:00.000 So, the Network Contagion Research Institute says that U.S. Capitol Police threat assessment showed a 58% increase in threats against members of Congress from 2024 and 2025, and threats have overall doubled since 2020.

00:46:17.000 So, this research institute studies how radical ideologies spread across digital networks and social media.

00:46:23.000 They analyze the threats against Erica and others to assess the level of danger and how permission structure plays.

00:46:30.000 A role in originating the threat.

00:46:31.000 And this is what we've really been talking about.

00:46:33.000 The permission structure undergirding this entire riot.

00:46:36.000 The social permission structure?

00:46:37.000 Yes.

00:46:37.000 It's when Hassan Piker gets up there and he talks about social murder and why Brian Thompson, the CEO of UnitedHealthcare, probably had it coming.

00:46:46.000 Okay? 0.94

00:46:47.000 This is what happens when they call you Hitler and they call you Nazis and they call you fascists and they dehumanize you again and again and again, or they call you a pedo protector. 0.85

00:46:55.000 This is the new one that I'm going to raise the alarm bells on is that when they accuse people of protecting pedophiles, it's creating a permission structure. 0.98

00:47:04.000 Because listen, if somebody is legitimately protecting pedophiles, And allowing the rape and sexual abuse as they're threatening.

00:47:11.000 And if they're above the law, then yeah, you could see how certain people might take matters into their own hands and plot an assassination attempt.

00:47:18.000 It's a modern update on, you know, when people say, oh, they're doing a modern Holocaust, and people think, well, if I was in Nazi Germany and I had the ability to prevent the Holocaust through some act of guerrilla violence, people will have this fantasy that tells us I would do that.

00:47:33.000 And so when you go around and say, Holocaust, there's a new genocide, genocide, genocide against trans people, genocide against whoever else, people who are unwell will take that very literally and they'll start.

00:47:43.000 Plotting violence.

00:47:44.000 And this pedo protector thing is a modern version of that.

00:47:47.000 We all would act to save children that we knew were being preyed upon, that we knew were being victimized, abused, killed.

00:47:56.000 And so when they just recklessly throw this around without proof, without evidence, they are sending unwell people over the deep end.

00:48:05.000 All right.

00:48:06.000 So this all plays into what we're seeing online.

00:48:10.000 And this is part of this report. 0.67

00:48:11.000 What we're seeing is a massive influx of foreign malign influence that is truly shaping the Western world right now, particularly. 0.83

00:48:17.000 Through social media.

00:48:18.000 This is according to Travis Hawley, cyber threat and open source intelligence analyst at the Network Contagion Research Institute.

00:48:25.000 What you could call our digital diet is really shaping how people see ourselves, our values, and our country, and even our history.

00:48:31.000 So there is a lot of countries that want to shape the discourse on social media in the United States because we are the most powerful country in the world.

00:48:40.000 So this includes Neville Singham in China, wealthy individuals.

00:48:45.000 This includes foreign malign interests out of Russia, perhaps Iran, perhaps other places.

00:48:52.000 So, anyways, this is really concerning, says Holly, and really showing up how democracy actually has a weakness if it is not protected.

00:48:59.000 Okay, so all of this is really direct.

00:49:01.000 So, all of it relates to our sports, all of it relates to anti Christian bias, and about our feelings about our own country.

00:49:09.000 One of the ways that that is manifesting is in how proud some Americans are to be American.

00:49:15.000 You can see this manifesting in so many different ways.

00:49:17.000 We have so much sports going on right now.

00:49:18.000 It really is what we're talking about.

00:49:20.000 Scott Jennings addressed this on CNN as well, 44.

00:49:23.000 According to some polling that came out this weekend, most Republicans love America.

00:49:26.000 90% are very proud to be Americans.

00:49:29.000 They're proud of living in this country.

00:49:31.000 Unfortunately, I think Mr. De Niro's comments are pretty indicative of a majority of Democrats who can't seem to find that attitude, which I applaud, inside them to love your country even though you lost the last election.

00:49:47.000 And, you know, loving America, being a patriot for America, feeling good about America shouldn't be dictated by whether you won or lost.

00:49:53.000 When I hear De Niro, I hear him saying, I can only love America if we win every election from here on out.

00:49:59.000 That's a rather fascist statement.

00:50:01.000 25 years ago, 90% of Republicans were proud or extremely proud to be American, and 87% of Democrats were as well.

00:50:08.000 25 years ago.

00:50:10.000 Now, 25 years later, 92% of Republicans are proud to be American.

00:50:13.000 So we've actually gone up 2%.

00:50:15.000 Only 36% of Democrats feel the same way.

00:50:20.000 And so it's not an exaggeration anymore to say the Democrats' party hates America.

00:50:24.000 And you can even see it through some of the comments made by the representatives.

00:50:28.000 When it comes to who you're rooting for in the World Cup, SOP 43.

00:50:32.000 World Cup is here.

00:50:33.000 The first match this weekend at MetLife Stadium taking place in New Jersey, even though some people say it is technically New York.

00:50:39.000 But what do you think will win it all?

00:50:41.000 Who are you rooting for?

00:50:42.000 Oh, I like Mexico.

00:50:44.000 Mexico, there you go. 1.00

00:50:45.000 And I'm rooting for Senegal. 1.00

00:50:46.000 Senegal, okay. 0.81

00:50:48.000 Those are two congresspeople. 0.96

00:50:50.000 That's the mild version of it. 0.99

00:50:51.000 You root against America, you're not proud of America, and then you have people who want to burn down America, kill Americans, kill Christians. 0.87

00:51:01.000 We as leaders have a responsibility to push against it. 0.95

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00:52:44.000 All right.

00:52:44.000 So without further ado, I want to bring in Sage Steel, host of the Sage Steel show.

00:52:50.000 I saw her doing TV last night.

00:52:52.000 I was like, I want you here, Sage.

00:52:53.000 I want to talk about this.

00:52:56.000 So we spent all day yesterday talking about UFC 250.

00:53:00.000 Was there a vibe shift happening?

00:53:01.000 We've got this peace deal pending with Iran.

00:53:04.000 You've got the World Cup.

00:53:06.000 You've got the Stanley Cup finals.

00:53:08.000 The Knicks won in five.

00:53:09.000 They may have burned down their city partly in school buses, but I digress.

00:53:14.000 Are we watching the beginning of the American vibe shift right now?

00:53:20.000 You've covered sports for years.

00:53:21.000 What do you think?

00:53:22.000 Yeah, I hope so, or maybe we should phrase it as a return, because this is kind of how it used to feel, right?

00:53:30.000 Where so much of our attention, yes, is focused on what's happening in the world as it should be, right?

00:53:34.000 There's more important things than sports, but sports is always an escape.

00:53:38.000 That's the way I always approached it.

00:53:40.000 That's why I wanted to be a sportscaster, because it was an escape from reality for so many people, no matter what was going on in your lives.

00:53:46.000 So, over the last, let's just Call it a week.

00:53:49.000 It has been awesome to see.

00:53:50.000 I mean, the NBA has had a lot of issues over the last, I'd say, decade or maybe five, six years with wokeness and really just taking it really too far, where people kind of stopped watching.

00:54:00.000 The ratings had tanked.

00:54:02.000 I don't know what they are for this year's postseason.

00:54:04.000 I think probably super high because it is the Knicks.

00:54:06.000 It was the Knicks, and it was, you know, more than half a century since they'd really been able to have the potential to win the whole thing.

00:54:13.000 So I'm sure the numbers were up.

00:54:14.000 But overall, you take that, you take the excitement with the Victor Wimbenyama in it, and it really was, in my mind, must see TV.

00:54:20.000 And then you bring the World Cup.

00:54:22.000 Listen, there's a ton of people.

00:54:23.000 Jesse said it last night, right?

00:54:25.000 I'm not even a soccer fan and I'm interested in watching.

00:54:27.000 When the whole world comes to your country, your eyes better be on it as well.

00:54:31.000 And it really feels that way.

00:54:33.000 And when you look at what foreigners are saying about our country and how great we are and calling Walmart a museum, then maybe we should start to take some of these things, not take them for granted as much.

00:54:44.000 And then, of course, with UFC, like, again, I just was able to look at the pictures and videos during and after, and it was incredible to watch.

00:54:53.000 I mean, no other country does that.

00:54:55.000 That video you're showing right there with the Thunderbirds and the Blue Angels together, it gives me chills, even for those people out there who aren't huge UFC fans, right?

00:55:05.000 It has been incredible from a sports aspect.

00:55:07.000 And I'll wrap with this part on it because sports is the ultimate uniter.

00:55:13.000 On a football Sunday, a basketball Saturday, at a UFC match, whatever it is, your race, your sex, your politics, your socioeconomic status, your religion, nothing matters.

00:55:25.000 That is the foundation and the fabric of America.

00:55:28.000 Nobody knows that more than Donald Trump.

00:55:30.000 And I love what we have seen over the last week or so.

00:55:34.000 Yeah, amen to that.

00:55:35.000 And it does feel like you mentioned the foreigners coming into America appreciating.

00:55:40.000 What they're seeing.

00:55:41.000 They're appreciating the mac and cheese.

00:55:42.000 They're driving down country roads listening to Ella Langley.

00:55:45.000 They're in bars singing country roads.

00:55:49.000 I mean, it really has given, I think, a lot of Americans fresh eyes to see how great our country is, too, which is why it's so depressing to hear people like Robert De Niro and all the polling that shows how little love the Democrat Party has currently for the United States.

00:56:04.000 Even though we are such a great country, you don't even have to say we're the best country in the world, but we're objectively a great country.

00:56:10.000 So, whatever it is, can't you put that aside and just say, Hey, America 250, we love you.

00:56:17.000 You know, even if you don't like the president, you got another crack at it in a couple of years.

00:56:21.000 Like, I mean, what's there not to love about this great country?

00:56:24.000 Genuinely.

00:56:25.000 Yeah, I think we're on the same page with that.

00:56:28.000 And I think the irony, though, it's rich to watch a Robert De Niro at the podium saying the things that he has been saying for a long time now.

00:56:37.000 I mean, the effort that it takes to find all the words and the big adjectives that I'm sure he had to put into a thesaurus to come up with to criticize the president, criticize America.

00:56:46.000 I mean, that energy, like, that's.

00:56:48.000 That's an ugly place to be. 1.00

00:56:50.000 And oh, by the way, try to go do that in some of these Middle Eastern countries. 1.00

00:56:54.000 Like, you're actually going to be killed, right?

00:56:56.000 So, the irony to me is something that we can never forget about.

00:56:59.000 At the same time, they really are, and I think have been, the vocal minority, a very loud minority.

00:57:06.000 And that is thanks to the echo chamber that mainstream media has been forever, and certainly social media and X before Elon took over.

00:57:15.000 But so now there's almost like a panic in the voices of the De Niro's and the Bet Midlers and even Julia Roberts, I was surprised to see her over doing that stuff this weekend.

00:57:25.000 Am I behind?

00:57:26.000 Is she one of them too?

00:57:27.000 I guess so.

00:57:28.000 But like, I think there's a panic because they feel like they're losing their grip on control of the mindset of so many, especially the youth.

00:57:38.000 So they're going to get out there and they're going to scream it and be extra loud.

00:57:41.000 But the way they're doing it, I mean, they're almost being mocked.

00:57:44.000 And listen, I'm trying hard to be above it, be above the fray and be a good Christian and not make fun of them.

00:57:50.000 But sometimes, I mean, sometimes I need to be mocked, right?

00:57:53.000 Sometimes we all deserve that.

00:57:54.000 And what they're doing, I just, it bothers me because of the timing.

00:58:00.000 And we are imperfect.

00:58:03.000 We all acknowledge that, don't we?

00:58:03.000 We all know that.

00:58:06.000 But there's so much more good than bad in this country.

00:58:09.000 That is why everybody continues to try to come in.

00:58:12.000 That's why people were coming in illegally at the border for all those years, right? 0.93

00:58:17.000 So let them waste their energy.

00:58:20.000 It must be in a very dark place to want.

00:58:22.000 To continue to live like that.

00:58:24.000 And I think we need to remember that.

00:58:26.000 And in some ways, it's healthier to ignore.

00:58:29.000 I totally agree, actually.

00:58:31.000 You know, part of the mistake that we make as content creators is it's so fun to clown on them, but it actually gives them more oxygen.

00:58:39.000 You know, you almost have to starve the grift here because, you know, you got Julia Roberts.

00:58:43.000 It's a hilarious clip.

00:58:44.000 I have the team pulling it right now because it's really worth watching for.

00:58:47.000 I forgot about it.

00:58:49.000 But she's up there in front during this counter programming and she starts, you know, it's like she went to way too many of these sort of new age, you know, health retreats and these counseling sessions where she's like leading the audience through, like, Like, breathe out the hate, breathe out the anger, and breathe in the love.

00:59:08.000 And it was like, it's like, Julia Roberts, you are worth hundreds of millions of dollars. 0.75

00:59:12.000 You have been given every darn thing. 0.82

00:59:14.000 You worked for some of it. 0.97

00:59:15.000 No disrespect there.

00:59:17.000 I'm just saying, this country has afforded you an amazing life.

00:59:20.000 By the way, we talk about Robert De Niro.

00:59:23.000 I just looked it up.

00:59:24.000 He's worth $500 million.

00:59:26.000 Robert De Niro is worth $500 million.

00:59:26.000 What?

00:59:28.000 He is the, he's a co owner, co founder of Nobu Restaurants and the Hotel Empire, which Chef Nobu Matsuhisa is a global chain.

00:59:38.000 So it's partly he's gotten some of his money internationally.

00:59:41.000 He's also the co owner of Tribeca Grill and a Greenwich Hotel.

00:59:44.000 Dang.

00:59:46.000 $500 million.

00:59:48.000 Yes. 0.53

00:59:48.000 But let's condemn. 0.53

00:59:50.000 Right.

00:59:50.000 And let's condemn capitalism altogether from his penthouse in Tribeca.

00:59:55.000 Right.

00:59:55.000 So, but here's the problem is that for so long, the left has been able to just take low hanging fruit and say, You know, white man bad, capitalism bad, you know, with their iPhones in their hands and having that penthouse in Tribeca.

01:00:10.000 And people see it and go, yeah, you're right, just because you don't like Donald Trump.

01:00:14.000 So, what I'm hoping for, especially with this younger generation, is that people dig a little bit deeper and don't just take that low hanging fruit, just don't just take those talking points and believe every single thing.

01:00:26.000 Like, do some investigating.

01:00:27.000 Maybe some of it you do agree with, maybe some of it you don't.

01:00:30.000 But when you're told, and the example you're being given by these leaders, mentors, people we're supposed to look up to, Is led with hatred, maybe start there.

01:00:41.000 And that's when, to me, they lose their credibility.

01:00:44.000 So it's depressing, but at this point, it's kind of on us, guys, if we are surprised by any of this behavior.

01:00:53.000 Well, and this is exactly, but I will say that is this the Julia Roberts clip?

01:00:58.000 Is this the one?

01:01:00.000 We'll see. 0.98

01:01:00.000 She made a fool of herself multiple times, so hopefully, this is the one we're talking about. 0.98

01:01:04.000 Stop 47. 0.99

01:01:05.000 What they call death and void, we know is breath and voice.

01:01:12.000 In the end, gorgeously endures our enormity.

01:01:17.000 You could believe departed to be the dawn when the blank night has so long stood, but our bright fled angels will never be fully gone when they forever are so fiercely good.

01:01:37.000 No, I hadn't seen that one.

01:01:39.000 I like that the lights were so dark in the audience to make sure that we could only see that there were 12 people there, by the way.

01:01:44.000 Like the average age of the audience was about.

01:01:46.000 72. 0.98

01:01:48.000 Perfect.

01:01:49.000 You know what I'm so sad about?

01:01:50.000 Because it's Julia Roberts and Richard Gere was going crazy a couple of weeks ago, too, overseas.

01:01:57.000 And so I'm like, that was one of my favorite movies.

01:02:01.000 They've both lost their marbles while continuing to pocket hundreds of millions of dollars.

01:02:05.000 But I think at least he moved.

01:02:07.000 And I don't say this lightly, just leave the country.

01:02:09.000 But I do mean that.

01:02:11.000 If it is so bad and so terrible and so depressing and you live in such fear, go somewhere else.

01:02:18.000 Better go somewhere where you feel safer.

01:02:21.000 Take your family there.

01:02:22.000 The funny thing is, they go, and then what happens?

01:02:25.000 Ellen DeGeneres, Rosie O'Donnell, they all come back.

01:02:28.000 They're not going to acknowledge the real reasons why.

01:02:30.000 But I mean that.

01:02:31.000 Like, if you're that uncomfortable, that's the beauty of America.

01:02:34.000 You have the freedom to make those decisions.

01:02:38.000 I agree with you completely.

01:02:38.000 Go.

01:02:40.000 Just leave.

01:02:43.000 Just put your hand on your beating heart and just close your eyes.

01:02:53.000 And just take a really deep breath in and breathe in all that hope, all that love.

01:03:03.000 And just breathe out all that fear.

01:03:08.000 Just let it all go.

01:03:11.000 And that is the power.

01:03:15.000 Sorry.

01:03:16.000 I just breathed out all that fear.

01:03:18.000 Blake was doing it the whole day.

01:03:19.000 He actually started just.

01:03:21.000 You know what?

01:03:22.000 I hope, my only hope is that she was high when doing it.

01:03:27.000 Like, that's the only excuse.

01:03:29.000 It's the only excuse for that. 1.00

01:03:31.000 What has happened to the once lovely Julia Roberts? 1.00

01:03:34.000 I don't know. 1.00

01:03:35.000 Like, I'm not, but between her and De Niro, did you notice that they have those presidential teleprompters?

01:03:42.000 Like, they had to read.

01:03:43.000 Yeah, that's a peace moment there.

01:03:45.000 They had to read all of their hatred.

01:03:47.000 Like, it's just, it's hysterical.

01:03:50.000 I think it's terrible.

01:03:52.000 All right, so what happened to Julia Roberts?

01:03:55.000 It's a great question.

01:03:57.000 Somebody should write like a whole book about it. 0.94

01:04:00.000 What happened to the once great Julia Roberts? 1.00

01:04:02.000 All right, so here's, maybe she was always this funny.

01:04:04.000 I think that would sell.

01:04:05.000 Ones of copies to the public.

01:04:07.000 Sage, that's your next mission.

01:04:09.000 All right.

01:04:09.000 So, even CNN is talking about this European phenomenon of how much love they're expressing for America.

01:04:17.000 And this was Jake Tapper talking to this German guy.

01:04:22.000 And I just love his answer. 1.00

01:04:23.000 Play SOP 50.

01:04:24.000 Yeah.

01:04:25.000 He's a nice guy.

01:04:25.000 I mean, I know Freddie.

01:04:26.000 He's from close to me.

01:04:28.000 So I've been talking to him.

01:04:29.000 He's loving it.

01:04:31.000 He's more touring the South.

01:04:32.000 I did Chicago.

01:04:33.000 And I think it's more like because in Europe, we have a lot of rather negative news about the Americans in the last five years, let's say that.

01:04:40.000 And I think we are all enjoying the fact that this country is so great to visit.

01:04:44.000 The people are amazing, so welcoming.

01:04:46.000 The culture is amazing.

01:04:47.000 It's like Europeans are getting a new view of America right now, I think, also through our content.

01:04:52.000 And that's cool, I think.

01:04:54.000 Yeah, look at that.

01:04:56.000 But interestingly enough, he blames the European media.

01:05:00.000 They're bad.

01:05:02.000 I don't think Americans realize how aggressively propagandistic a lot of media is in Germany, in France.

01:05:11.000 They're much more.

01:05:13.000 All on the same side of every issue and really lecturing you about it.

01:05:18.000 Gosh, the lecturing, the European lecturing, I just can't.

01:05:20.000 Anyways, I actually looked this up yesterday because I saw Elon Musk is actually going to be suing ZDF, which is one of the top two largest broadcasters, news networks in Germany.

01:05:32.000 And he said about some of the migrant crisis stuff that you have to protest loudly and repeatedly if something's going to change.

01:05:39.000 The ZDF took that and translated it to you have to hunt down migrants.

01:05:44.000 In the streets, and they will they are refusing to retract that, Sage. 0.94

01:05:49.000 I mean, you were a journalist, yes, a sports journalist.

01:05:52.000 You were at ESPN, what 16, 17 years.

01:05:54.000 If you said something that crazy off point and that big of a lie, really, you would be forced to retract, even at ESPN.

01:06:02.000 Am I right?

01:06:03.000 Yeah, yes.

01:06:04.000 I think when I was there, yes, certainly times have changed in the last two and a half years, but absolutely.

01:06:08.000 The problem is leadership, and if you're leadership at these networks, um, I mean, they're the ones that are dictating it and how you should cover a story and how you should report.

01:06:17.000 And so there might even be people who are being forced to translate it, knowing that it's wrong, but this is what their boss tells them and they have to keep the job.

01:06:23.000 I mean, we know all about that and those kind of mandates, right?

01:06:27.000 But to your point, Blake, especially in Germany and in France, I mean, there's a reason why they mock us, a reason why they loathe us and think that we are so beneath them.

01:06:36.000 It's because of how it is being reported.

01:06:38.000 It is actually no different from the mainstream media here, but I don't think any of us, including those of us in it, fully realize those of us who are sane and kind of in the middle or center right who've been in the media world, I don't think any of us realize just how dark and dirty it was.

01:06:55.000 Thanks to Elon, thanks to X, and then this space, the streaming podcast world, people are realizing just how dark it was and in some ways still is.

01:07:07.000 Just Jake Tapper alone, right?

01:07:08.000 Where you know that it was painful for him to sit there and watch this pleasant, kind guy from Germany saying, wow, this place is not bad.

01:07:17.000 I mean, this is the same guy that a year ago was trying to sell his book, and that's therefore the only reason why he was coming clean, saying that he wasn't honest, basically, as a journalist.

01:07:28.000 At CNN with his social media in any way.

01:07:31.000 And he's just one of many stars of all of these networks.

01:07:34.000 So it is incumbent upon us with all of our God given platforms at this point to just speak the truth.

01:07:41.000 And I do believe that that means even when it is uncomfortable, something that we don't want to report, we have to report the facts and the truth.

01:07:48.000 That's how I was trained 35, I'm aging myself years ago when I was in college.

01:07:52.000 Like it doesn't, your opinion actually doesn't matter when you're a journalist hosting those news shows.

01:07:59.000 It's not about your opinion, it's about the fact.

01:08:00.000 We give the viewers I mean, the sports audience, whatever it is, the facts, and then allow them to form their opinion.

01:08:08.000 But that's not what's been allowed to happen in our country or in Europe.

01:08:11.000 And I think we're seeing it.

01:08:12.000 Well, and I will tell you right.

01:08:14.000 And I know you're center right.

01:08:16.000 I know you're.

01:08:17.000 I'm pretty right wing.

01:08:19.000 I'm right wing.

01:08:20.000 No, I'm just saying.

01:08:21.000 I'm just trying to think clearly about all the issues, and then you know where I end up.

01:08:25.000 I'm just giving you plausible deniability for the next thing I'm about to say, which is I will tell you, Europeans, they marvel at our conservative movement and the fact that we have this robust.

01:08:35.000 Movement that can push back and fight back and go toe to toe with these guys because they don't have that in Europe at all.

01:08:40.000 And so that's just one observation.

01:08:42.000 I have to get to this story really quick, Sage.

01:08:44.000 I did not warn you about this, so you can take it as you will.

01:08:49.000 But there was a couple, like I think a week ago, there was a story of this burning KKK white supremacy cross in Chicago.

01:08:56.000 And I instantly tweeted out I said, This is either a hoax or the SBLC funded it and it's still a hoax.

01:09:02.000 Okay, we found the guy who set it on fire, and here he is, 49.

01:09:07.000 I don't want to wait until he may or may not get impeached.

01:09:11.000 I want him gone right now.

01:09:12.000 On that video, are you threatening him?

01:09:15.000 No.

01:09:16.000 You say that you think that he should be at home.

01:09:19.000 Lou says he built this cross after carrying wooden slats from his near West Side apartment to Grant Park last Tuesday afternoon.

01:09:26.000 He showed the red ball cap that he put on the top beam and used lighter fluid and toilet paper to get it all going.

01:09:33.000 I put a red hat to signify the MAGA hat, the Make America Great Again hat.

01:09:39.000 That was, yeah, that's what I tied on top of it.

01:09:41.000 Lou says he was protesting what he calls MAGA Christian nationalist supporters and the Trump administration ruling class.

01:09:48.000 He's just scamming people.

01:09:50.000 So it's not a white supremacist. 0.96

01:09:52.000 It was a gay Asian man named Merlin Liu. 0.79

01:09:57.000 Merlin Liu.

01:09:58.000 That's a name.

01:09:58.000 Merlin Liu.

01:10:00.000 Your reaction, Sage.

01:10:01.000 If you want to wave.

01:10:02.000 I hadn't heard.

01:10:03.000 Yeah, always.

01:10:04.000 You know, I'm no longer afraid now.

01:10:06.000 30 seconds.

01:10:06.000 You canceled like dozens of times.

01:10:08.000 You just don't care.

01:10:09.000 You just talk.

01:10:10.000 I hadn't seen that story.

01:10:11.000 That makes me sad.

01:10:11.000 Remember a couple years ago, all these stop Asian hate signs?

01:10:15.000 Like, you just can't keep up with all of the things that are out there.

01:10:19.000 And what was his name?

01:10:21.000 Jesse Smollett in Chicago.

01:10:23.000 I mean, apparently, this is a breeding ground for people like that who want to create fake narratives to, I don't know, spread their mission.

01:10:31.000 It makes me so sad, but we've got to remember this.

01:10:33.000 We have to remember that this is what the left has done so brilliantly indoctrinate these young people.

01:10:38.000 We have to continue to educate about the facts.

01:10:41.000 I knew it was a hoax, Sage.

01:10:42.000 I saw it and I was like, no way.

01:10:45.000 This is MAGA country.

01:10:46.000 You know?

01:10:47.000 Sage Steele, host of the Sage Steele show.

01:10:49.000 That was so much fun.

01:10:50.000 Thank you, Sage, for joining us.

01:10:51.000 Thank you, guys.

01:10:55.000 For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to charliekirk.com.

The Charlie Kirk Show - June 16, 2026

Luigi Mangione and "Horseshoe Terrorism"

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