The Charlie Kirk Show - “Luxury Beliefs,” Liz Cheney, and Crushing Woke Corporations

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00:00:01.000 Matt Peterson joins us from New Founding to talk about how we crush woke companies.

00:00:06.000 And then Raheem Kassam talks about Teton County and how that is instructive for the rest of America.

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00:00:14.000 What is a luxury belief?

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00:01:30.000 We've got to counter woke corporations and woke capital.

00:01:34.000 And there is finally a concerted effort to do that.

00:01:38.000 Friend of the program, Matt Peterson, joins us right now.

00:01:41.000 He is behind American Firebrand PAC and also general partner of New Founding.

00:01:47.000 Matt, welcome back to the program.

00:01:49.000 Thanks for having me.

00:01:50.000 Always good to be here.

00:01:51.000 Matt, I enjoyed the article in Breitbart where you talked about how we need a new venture organization to revitalize America and counter woke corporations.

00:02:01.000 Walk us through what you are doing to empower everyday people to smash these companies.

00:02:06.000 Yes, we are sick and tired, as I'm sure all your listeners are, of what's going on in American commerce and culture.

00:02:14.000 And we know that what's needed is not just attacking the wokeness, but establishing a positive vision of a pro-American, pro-human way of life that businesses can rally around.

00:02:28.000 You can't defeat, as you well know, a negative with a positive, a negative with a positive.

00:02:34.000 You have to come out with a positive vision because everyone's complaining.

00:02:39.000 I don't want wokeness. 1.00

00:02:40.000 And the old way of thinking about this is to say, so I just want businesses to go back to neutral, to not talk about politics.

00:02:48.000 What we realize is that that's not going to work.

00:02:51.000 What's needed is to say there's a positive vision of how we want to live, of what's attractive to us.

00:02:56.000 It's pro-family, that's pro-tech, but pro-human first, where we're not enslaved by technology.

00:03:01.000 Pro-goodness and pro-beauty and pro-truth.

00:03:04.000 Yes.

00:03:05.000 Yes.

00:03:05.000 This is what people want.

00:03:06.000 This is what they're attracted to.

00:03:08.000 This is what advertising used to do, right?

00:03:12.000 I mean, the problem with advertising is it can change your desires.

00:03:15.000 You end up wanting things you didn't even know you wanted.

00:03:18.000 Well, now they're showing you things that are ugly, that you don't want.

00:03:21.000 So how do we promote this movement?

00:03:23.000 How do we promote a positive vision?

00:03:25.000 That is why Nate Fisher and I created New Founding to create what we need in media, in technology, and in finance to move us forward.

00:03:34.000 And we want to find the founders who are not going to break to the demands of woke capital.

00:03:39.000 Right now at New Founding, we're inviting people to join us and we're building.

00:03:44.000 You can start to see some of this now.

00:03:45.000 We're building out the infrastructure that will be needed in the future.

00:03:49.000 Let me give you one example.

00:03:50.000 A line is a newsletter right now.

00:03:53.000 It will grow into a site with lifestyle content, lists of businesses.

00:03:58.000 There's always already there now that serve as alternatives to the big woke corporations.

00:04:03.000 There aren't any, there's very few big corporations that are on our side, but there's lots of smaller companies that make real stuff.

00:04:10.000 This isn't just, you know, rally-round the flag type material.

00:04:15.000 We're talking about camping supplies and anything else you can think of that right now don't do any of this woke stuff.

00:04:21.000 So we need to support them.

00:04:23.000 It's not boycotting quite, but it's moving millions of dollars into all these businesses that are made in America, are proud to be here, and getting people to rethink how they buy and then getting the businesses to rethink how they sell.

00:04:39.000 Because a lot of these small to medium-sized businesses know that half the country plus wants to buy from them.

00:04:44.000 So Align right now is a newsletter you can sign up for for free if you go to newfounding.com.

00:04:50.000 And what Align does is just give you practical alternatives.

00:04:54.000 But we're going to move beyond that into lifestyle, into profiles, into, you know, how do I move from a blue state to a red state?

00:05:01.000 Where do I move and why?

00:05:02.000 What are the alternatives in education for my kids?

00:05:05.000 We need a media ecosystem that's laying out these practical alternatives and we need it now.

00:05:10.000 I mean, I totally agree.

00:05:12.000 Now, I'm asking, let me ask you, Matt, are you starting to see more entrepreneurs start to lean in on this to go away from the woke direction?

00:05:19.000 I mean, a day doesn't go by, freedom at charliekirk.com, where we get one of our wonderful listeners that send us something.

00:05:25.000 And it's another one of these nauseating companies.

00:05:28.000 I mean, for example, one of the applications that I use when I work out is called Train Heroic.

00:05:34.000 And I get, again, it literally is to just log how much weight you're doing and just to keep you on.

00:05:39.000 I get this email all about we at Train Heroic stand with the trans community. 0.99

00:05:43.000 Like, oh, just shut up. 0.99

00:05:44.000 Like, can you just, you're a fitness app, okay? 0.99

00:05:47.000 I don't need to hear about this.

00:05:49.000 Is there a change happening here, Matt?

00:05:52.000 Yeah, there is a change.

00:05:53.000 The problem is that no one is highlighting it as a movement, right?

00:05:58.000 Because mainstream media does not want you to see that there are a number of younger founders and CEOs who want to avoid this stuff.

00:06:07.000 And so in a way, we need our own ESG or our own version of social justice as a movement where you know these are radically pro-family, pro-American businesses.

00:06:17.000 And that's why, you know, that's why New Founding, that's why we need to create a commercial and cultural union for the American people where we go out and find these people and present them to you and present you with deals and everything else and start to foster this movement that will involve lots of people.

00:06:33.000 I will tell you, the silver lining is I do talk to people every day who are either trying to get out of these big companies and start something new or who already have started something new.

00:06:42.000 And what we want to do is highlight that for regular people in a way that's active, that you can actually go out and support or just look around and see in one place, you know, all these people who are trying to move in a different direction.

00:06:54.000 It's also about raising the consciousness, in my opinion, too.

00:06:57.000 So for example, for small business owners out there, we have a lot of small business owners that watch this program.

00:07:02.000 And it makes sense, right?

00:07:03.000 I mean, they can, you know, they're doing work and they're responsible.

00:07:06.000 And so they're more in the conservative message.

00:07:09.000 And while they're doing work, they're listening to us.

00:07:11.000 They have to also be careful who they hire.

00:07:13.000 Can you talk about how the personnel sometimes drives the radicalism within these companies about how employers need to be very careful about who they bring into their companies?

00:07:23.000 They're properly vetting them to make sure that their values are aligned.

00:07:27.000 Yeah, it may be unfortunate, but you cannot avoid this because the legal system is set up to allow for the woke mind virus, as the richest man in the world calls it, to take over your business.

00:07:43.000 So, what happens in the larger corporations, like take Disney, is there may be like the CEO probably that doesn't have a spine, but there's maybe people there who he's not really for this, but they've hired so many creatives who are, there's nothing they can do.

00:07:59.000 And so, if you're a small business, you absolutely need to go out there and make sure you're hiring aligned people.

00:08:06.000 There's a great company that we work with called Red Balloon.

00:08:09.000 Yeah, someone.

00:08:10.000 Talk about them.

00:08:10.000 They're phenomenal.

00:08:11.000 I get emails from them.

00:08:12.000 Oh, yeah.

00:08:13.000 Andrew Kapushitz, who started that, is a wonderful entrepreneur.

00:08:16.000 And he just went out there during the virus and said, look, go to Red Balloon and you can find work from people who won't force you to get the backs.

00:08:25.000 And that began the process.

00:08:27.000 So we work with them and others where, you know, ultimately what we need is a digital network, a digital network that's open source, but has governance where curation and credentialing are coming from people who are aligned in terms of values.

00:08:42.000 Does that make sense?

00:08:43.000 I mean, that's what's needed.

00:08:45.000 Yeah, but it's comprehensive, right?

00:08:47.000 And that's why I talk about the raising of the consciousness, meaning that it can't just be like, oh, you know, why are we not boycotting these companies or supporting those?

00:08:55.000 It has to be a top-to-bottom total philosophy change of are you doing your part?

00:09:01.000 And this is something we're trying to do at Turning Point just a little bit.

00:09:03.000 We have our Turning Point Alumni Network, and we've placed some people into jobs.

00:09:07.000 Now employers are saying, thank you.

00:09:09.000 They keep their head down.

00:09:10.000 They do their job.

00:09:11.000 They're not talking about why they need a pride month off or whatever the new thing is, right?

00:09:16.000 And it's actually improves productivity.

00:09:20.000 Matt, I want to keep you for one more segment here.

00:09:22.000 I have a theory that the recession actually might deal a very significant death blow to some of this woke posturing.

00:09:30.000 Because when there are cuts that need to be made and profits start to diminish and cheap money starts to dry up, I don't know if the patience in the accounting department for $100 million to some sort of chemical castration program for children of some Sioux tribe in western Oklahoma is going to be something that Goldman Sachs wants to spend money on.

00:09:51.000 Maybe I'm wrong.

00:09:51.000 I want to ask you about how economic pressures might actually help us here right now to deal a death blow to these maniacs.

00:09:58.000 New founding, what the website really quick.

00:09:59.000 Matt, one of my theories about woke corporations is that in the year of 2020, you had some simultaneous, let's say, influxes of really bad ideas, hatred of Donald Trump, lockdowns, a yearning for meaning, but also cheap money.

00:10:16.000 And one of the theories that I've been putting forward is that when you have artificially high profits and you have tech companies in particular that just exploded during our reaction to the pandemic, that you have a lot of money floating around to subsidize bloated HR departments.

00:10:33.000 However, when the economy starts to crater a little bit and budgets need to be cut and HR departments need to be kind of scaled back, the wokeys are going to be maybe laid off and not treated as nicely and kindly. 0.99

00:10:46.000 Am I misguided there?

00:10:47.000 Do you think there might be finally some gravitational pull against wokeism?

00:10:53.000 Yes and no.

00:10:54.000 I mean, I think there is some evidence that this has been going on, but it radically depends on the kind of corporation you're talking about.

00:11:04.000 Let me give you an example.

00:11:05.000 I mean, I think there's a lot of big corporations like, say, Verizon, I think is a good example.

00:11:11.000 It's hopelessly woke.

00:11:12.000 It's sort of like it's just being cannibalized, you know, over time.

00:11:17.000 I don't think they care in a way.

00:11:20.000 And something like Disney, for instance, as well, they've lost a lot, but I see them as on a suicidal course that they're not going to recover from.

00:11:29.000 They're not going to fire all their woke creatives.

00:11:32.000 On the other hand, there's other businesses that this gives the people, if there's enough people who realize the problem, this gives them ammo to help to scale and trim back.

00:11:43.000 But, you know, unfortunately, I don't think it's enough to reverse the cultural revolution, although it can be useful to people in those businesses who are engaged in the fight.

00:11:54.000 And look, that's why I go back to a commercial and cultural union for the American people where we connect people who are being atomized.

00:12:01.000 We curate and bring together people who are doing all this interesting stuff to move in a different direction in practical ways.

00:12:09.000 And then we advocate for people and harness the economic clout of half of America to move things forward.

00:12:16.000 So I think you're partially right.

00:12:18.000 It's helping, but ultimately, we are going to have to promote an alternative positive.

00:12:25.000 I totally agree with that.

00:12:26.000 I just think it adds an element that makes our success more likely.

00:12:31.000 That if we're pushing forward with competitors and we're pressing against these companies and they're also seeing their profits go down just because of natural economic curves, that it creates the conditions that we might be able to be successful.

00:12:44.000 So, Matt, I want to shift gears to politics here.

00:12:47.000 What are you seeing in the primaries?

00:12:49.000 You know, you and I were supporters of Blake Masters and JD Vance.

00:12:52.000 They both won.

00:12:53.000 And it feels good all of a sudden to have some good, young, energetic, new right candidates.

00:12:58.000 Are you optimistic there might be some actual changes here happening in the Republican Party?

00:13:03.000 I am.

00:13:04.000 I, in fact, I'm very optimistic, not that everything's going to change overnight, but that everything you just said is true.

00:13:10.000 And we will find more leaders rising up unlooked for because voters are so fed up with the establishment Republican Party.

00:13:19.000 So, you know, I think what's going to be interesting about the red wave is, first off, we have to make sure that the establishment leaders know that we know the red wave is really about these new leaders who are boldly standing up and taking the party forward, taking the fight to the left, and are serious about what they're working on.

00:13:38.000 That's not the word.

00:13:39.000 Serious.

00:13:40.000 That's right.

00:13:40.000 Playtime's over.

00:13:42.000 That's number one.

00:13:43.000 Number two is, you know, after this wave, I guarantee you, we will find new stars.

00:13:49.000 I mean, a lot of these people, we don't even know who they are, right?

00:13:52.000 I mean, some of them are going to enter Congress and all of a sudden look around and stand up.

00:13:57.000 And all the pressure from voters is in that direction, which is a good thing.

00:14:01.000 So I would say, you know, keep working, keep voting, keep advocating, but be patient.

00:14:08.000 And we're going to see a new class of leadership rise.

00:14:11.000 And, you know, your show, everything you do is helping that.

00:14:15.000 I just think it is the future.

00:14:18.000 So people should not lose heart.

00:14:21.000 I totally agree.

00:14:22.000 Well, I just have to say that, you know, we are looking at a set of circumstances right now where the better candidates are starting to win primaries all across the country.

00:14:34.000 I'm a little worried about Republican establishment abandoning them.

00:14:37.000 It's a big concern right now.

00:14:39.000 So the voters are going to have to rise up in big numbers.

00:14:42.000 All right, Matt, thank you so much.

00:14:43.000 Deeply appreciate it.

00:14:44.000 Thank you.

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00:15:46.000 With us right now is a great American patriot, very smart.

00:15:50.000 Love following his commentary.

00:15:52.000 I think it's his first time on the program.

00:15:54.000 Raheem joins us.

00:15:55.000 Raheem Kassam Rimi.

00:15:56.000 Raheem, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.

00:15:58.000 Thank you for having me.

00:16:00.000 Yeah, you bet.

00:16:00.000 Thank you.

00:16:01.000 So you want to talk about this Liz Cheney story in the New York Times, and it's in the ways that count Liz Cheney won.

00:16:09.000 Your thoughts on this.

00:16:11.000 I have a lot of thoughts on this, Charlie.

00:16:14.000 So originally, I thought to myself, us talking about Liz Cheney.

00:16:18.000 Liz Cheney wants us talking about Liz Cheney. 1.00

00:16:21.000 So my instinct in that is to say, no, actually, I don't really want to talk about Liz Cheney.

00:16:27.000 But then I was sitting around last night going to spin this one.

00:16:31.000 So I started to look at the returns in from Wyoming themselves, look at the commentary around her.

00:16:39.000 And of course, we've got this amazing, amazing.

00:16:42.000 I mean, Brooke had in months and months and months an article in the New York Times today by Frank Bruni, which said, Liz Cheney won. 0.73

00:16:52.000 In the way that counts, Liz Cheney won. 0.87

00:16:55.000 Well, let me tell you, he's consoling themselves right now, having lost all of their impeachment managers, having lost all of the people who all, every single one almost of them, are gone out of Congress already.

00:17:08.000 And they're consoling themselves that they accused us of, our side of, back in 2020.

00:17:15.000 But there is, there were two on in Wyoming, and by two ways, I mean two counties.

00:17:20.000 Now, there was one county, Albany County, we bought an oddball in Wyoming.

00:17:25.000 But the more interesting story is what I think of the entire battle going on in America right now.

00:17:34.000 And that's Teton County, Wyoming.

00:17:36.000 County in America is the only county that Liz Cheney carried with any reasonable margin that she can say, I absolutely won that one. 0.97

00:17:47.000 The average income is $300,000.

00:17:54.000 Just internalized, was able to carry a county that has an average income rate of average America.

00:18:05.000 It's known as the billionaire's background.

00:18:08.000 It's known as the billionaires' puzzles when I was reading up about this.

00:18:12.000 And also, I think it's really interesting as a microcosm there because Teton County and the wealthy people that live there used to vote Republican until about 2000.

00:18:23.000 And isn't that just when everything started to change?

00:18:27.000 That is when you started to see the of the political left by the oligarch class.

00:18:35.000 And it's like Donald Trump speaking out against things like what was happening then?

00:18:41.000 The Iraq invasion, the Afghan. 0.99

00:18:43.000 We soon had a massive recession following after that.

00:18:48.000 And I think, you know, we always have the state go, so goes America.

00:18:52.000 The way this place goes, so goes America.

00:18:54.000 These bellwether counties and states do think that in this case, it is a perfect, perfect analogy for America.

00:19:03.000 The elites, the classes, the billionaires, the oligarchs, they will all vote for P Users. 1.00

00:19:10.000 There ain't a lot of them.

00:19:12.000 There's not a lot of them.

00:19:13.000 Aspen, Colorado in Pitkin County is very similar as well, where if you go to Aspen, the homes are going for 4,000, sometimes 4,500 square feet per square foot.

00:19:26.000 I mean, you go to, I was just actually doing while you were chatting, I pulled up Zillow at Teton County.

00:19:31.000 There are homes that are listed for nearly $3,200 a square foot.

00:19:37.000 Just give me an idea.

00:19:39.000 That's more than New York City in its heyday.

00:19:42.000 And what's interesting, though, you know, Teton County is one of the most beautiful places on the planet.

00:19:46.000 It's right near Teton National Park.

00:19:48.000 And then you can go up to Yellowstone National Park.

00:19:50.000 And it is kind of this sandbox for the American ruling class.

00:19:55.000 No income tax, you know, very beautiful, very nice.

00:19:59.000 But it's interesting because they might have a lot of money.

00:20:01.000 They might be able to raise a lot of money, but they don't have a lot in numbers.

00:20:05.000 So build that out.

00:20:06.000 You extrapolate that to the rest of the country.

00:20:08.000 Is there a broader referendum happening against the American ruling class?

00:20:13.000 Is going on right now?

00:20:14.000 I mean, I watch with scratching my head where you have New Jersey politicians now complaining that Donald Trump allowed the golf tournament in Bedminster.

00:20:30.000 And I think to myself, these are the same people who were arguing that there should be a mosque at ground zero.

00:20:38.000 You know, these people are oddly out of touch with common sentiment.

00:20:42.000 Remember, obviously at the time, people were talking about theorists.

00:20:47.000 Remember, 9-11 was planned in a cave in Tora Bora in Afghanistan.

00:20:52.000 It wasn't done by the Saudis.

00:20:53.000 Bear, the former CIA agent, had entire swathe of his book, See No Evil, redoubled to release it about all of that stuff.

00:21:02.000 But now we're being asked by these same people, this oligarch ruling.

00:21:06.000 No, it was the Saudis. 0.59

00:21:08.000 Well, why was it the Saudis all of a sudden? 1.00

00:21:10.000 Because Donald Trump is hosting them at Bedminster.

00:21:12.000 That's why.

00:21:13.000 And I saw you tweeted this Sam Harris thing out earlier on, where he talks about how he had children locked in his basement.

00:21:22.000 He said, because Trump University was worse, these what little minds they ever had.

00:21:29.000 And that is a good thing.

00:21:31.000 That is good news because there is obviously to be occupied.

00:21:35.000 There is a financial vacuum, quite frankly.

00:21:38.000 People are dying to buy company-run goods.

00:21:42.000 And there is this vacuum of intelligence out there right now.

00:21:47.000 Because I think this is the kind of show that is filling the intelligence vacuum out there.

00:21:53.000 Well, thank you.

00:21:54.000 We appreciate that.

00:21:55.000 Yeah, I'm going to play the Sam Harris clip again.

00:21:57.000 I think it's so instructive.

00:21:59.000 And Raheem, afterwards, can you just explain to our audience that might not be familiar with Sam Harris?

00:22:04.000 I call him the high priest of smug atheism.

00:22:09.000 He is well respected of kind of these atheist, godless left-wing influencers. 0.99

00:22:15.000 A lot of our audience is not familiar with him.

00:22:17.000 That's okay.

00:22:18.000 I don't want them to be familiar with Sam Harris, but he influences a lot of people.

00:22:22.000 And he's kind of the top of how people view their metaphysical reality.

00:22:27.000 I want to play this piece of tape here: Cut 78, the high priest of smug atheism, Sam Harris, the most influential atheist under 50, talking about Hunter Biden literally could have had the corpses of children in his basement.

00:22:40.000 I would not have cared.

00:22:40.000 Play Cut 78.

00:22:42.000 Hunter Biden, at that point, Hunter Biden literally could have had the corpses of children in his basement.

00:22:49.000 I would not have cared.

00:22:50.000 Whatever the scope of Joe Biden's corruption is, like if we could just go down that rabbit hole endlessly and understand that he's getting kickbacks from Hunter Biden's deals in Ukraine or wherever else, right?

00:23:01.000 Or China.

00:23:03.000 It is infinitesimal compared to the corruption we know Trump is involved in.

00:23:11.000 Right?

00:23:11.000 Trump University as a story is worse than anything that could be in Hunter Biden's laptop.

00:23:18.000 Now, it's not just what he said that's outrageous, but Raheem, can you just tell our audience who is Sam Harris?

00:23:24.000 This guy actually matters in the broader culture war.

00:23:27.000 Your thoughts, Raheem?

00:23:30.000 Sam Harris does seem to still matter to a lot of people.

00:23:35.000 He's sort of like of public intellectual atheist types. 0.92

00:23:42.000 And you can to this kind of chubby, chubby, annoying man.

00:23:46.000 And that's Sam Harris, right?

00:23:49.000 He's a, by the way, he's a good friend of Ricky Gervais, whose comedy I think is anti-woke comedy especially.

00:23:56.000 Do a little bit more of and appreciate more of in our lives, right?

00:24:00.000 But Ricky Gervais isn't this smug.

00:24:03.000 He's not smug about his intellect.

00:24:06.000 And when people like Sam Harris absolutely are, they do sneer at you. 1.00

00:24:11.000 They live to tell you how stupid you are. 1.00

00:24:14.000 But the best thing about this clip and this longer form interview is at one point, he talks about how a conspiracy to keep a man being from elected president in 2020. 1.00

00:24:30.000 And then the interviewer goes back to him and says, well, hold on a minute.

00:24:33.000 We should be happy that there is a constantly elected president being re-elected.

00:24:39.000 And Sam Harris goes, well, I don't think it's necessarily a conspiracy.

00:24:43.000 They didn't say that word.

00:24:44.000 You edited that word.

00:24:46.000 And this is the thing.

00:24:47.000 People like Harris get so like they never sit in rooms with people who believe anything different to them.

00:24:54.000 They never sit on stages opposite PewDo.

00:24:56.000 And like others on the right, are always thrust into those situations, right?

00:25:01.000 Where we are constantly, Sam Harris never has had to do that in his life.

00:25:06.000 And so he ends up circumlocuting himself and somehow losing.

00:25:13.000 And it is just a wonderful, magnificent person thing that I think we're going to learn about today is that is the other smug Brian Stelter.

00:25:25.000 Potentially, I think we're hearing that he may be leaving CNN.

00:25:29.000 Good news all around today.

00:25:31.000 Yeah, what a loss for the journalistic profession.

00:25:34.000 One minute, Raheem.

00:25:35.000 Just rip a little bit on the eunuch who is now out at CNN. 0.65

00:25:39.000 Your thoughts.

00:25:42.000 Last year over at the National Pulse, we published an entire article going through Jeff Zucker's high.

00:25:50.000 CNN, funnily enough, once upon a time, before a lot of people's living memories, was actually talking 20 odd years ago, right?

00:25:58.000 They sent reporters into the field.

00:26:01.000 They still had liberal buyers.

00:26:03.000 All Trump derangement syndrome.

00:26:04.000 And then Zucker comes along and he starts hiring these people, Chris Cuomos, Marceas, all of these types who have no journalistic credentials.

00:26:15.000 Zero.

00:26:16.000 Don't know how to do the news.

00:26:17.000 They have no interest in doing the news.

00:26:19.000 They are state-level propagandists.

00:26:22.000 And now on an ATT merger, the new incoming management of CNN are going, well, hold on a minute.

00:26:29.000 We have no one.

00:26:29.000 Believe us.

00:26:30.000 We are losing people in the suedes.

00:26:33.000 And so they are losing these anchors now in their sway for journalism.

00:26:38.000 Raheem Kassam from the National Pulse.

00:26:40.000 Thank you so much for joining us.

00:26:41.000 Great work as always.

00:26:42.000 We appreciate it.

00:26:42.000 Thank you, Charlie.

00:26:43.000 Anytime, you too.

00:26:47.000 So what is a luxury belief?

00:26:50.000 A luxury belief is something that the ruling class collects.

00:26:55.000 Now, I did not come up with the term luxury belief.

00:26:59.000 It was written in a New York Post article by Rob Henderson.

00:27:04.000 And he wrote this phenomenal piece a couple years ago, three years ago almost.

00:27:08.000 And he writes, quote, a former classmate of mine from Yale recently told me that monogamy is kind of outdated, the idea of having one partner and not good for society.

00:27:18.000 So I asked her what her background is and if she planned to marry.

00:27:21.000 She said she comes from an affluent family and works at a well-known technology company.

00:27:25.000 Yes, she personally intends to have monogamous marriage, but quickly added that marriage shouldn't have to be for everyone. 0.79

00:27:31.000 She was raised by a traditional family.

00:27:33.000 She plans on having a traditional family, but she maintained that traditional families are old-fashioned and societies should evolve beyond them.

00:27:40.000 You see, Rob Henderson argues in this piece that upper-class Americans used to display their social status with luxury goods, such as a Hermes scarf, or Gucci, or Dolce and Gabbana, or designer shoes.

00:27:57.000 Now they do so by they show their wealth off by their luxury belief.

00:28:04.000 Rob Henderson writes, people care a lot about social status.

00:28:07.000 In fact, research indicates that respect and admiration for our peers are even more important than money of our sense of well-being.

00:28:15.000 So this is what has happened in the upper middle class, not just upper middle class, but the wealthy, wealthy pocket enclaves across America.

00:28:22.000 It's happened in Aspen.

00:28:24.000 It's happened in Teton County.

00:28:26.000 It's happened in Seattle, Tacoma, Washington, in Silicon Valley, outside of Washington, D.C., in Martha's Vineyard, in Kenny Bunkport, Maine.

00:28:34.000 I could go on.

00:28:35.000 There are about eight or ten of these enclaves of hyper-wealthy people.

00:28:39.000 Now, there's nothing wrong with being hyper-wealthy if you've earned it.

00:28:44.000 And if, I mean, obviously, if you inherited, that's fine too.

00:28:47.000 But the point is, I'm not trying to make a moral judgment about creating wealth.

00:28:50.000 I think it could be a great thing.

00:28:52.000 It's what you do with it that really matters and also how you got it, which is important.

00:28:55.000 Meaning, did you lie, steal, and cheat to get it?

00:28:57.000 Or are you doing something that is courageous and something that is virtuous with it?

00:29:02.000 No, the more important question is: if you have all of these resources and this money, and then instead of buying another house or buying a yacht or buying a boat, you wear these luxury beliefs as if it's some sort of a social status competition.

00:29:16.000 So, for example, in Aspen, Colorado, if there's a cocktail party, it is almost a one-upsmanship of where they used to say, Yes, you know, I have a Gulfstream 650.

00:29:25.000 Oh, really?

00:29:25.000 I have the Challenger and I have a Falcon.

00:29:27.000 And, you know, I have all they're kind of talking, I have a Global Express.

00:29:30.000 They're all talking about how big their planes are.

00:29:32.000 Now they go to a cocktail party and they say, you know, I gave $5 million to BLM.

00:29:39.000 Oh, really?

00:29:40.000 Well, I just gave $7 million to, you know, the ACLU.

00:29:47.000 Or I gave $8 million to Planned Parenthood.

00:29:49.000 And then they'll start talking and they'll say, oh, yes, you know, borders are so antiquated.

00:29:53.000 Hey, hey, make sure you close the gate before you get onto my property.

00:29:58.000 They don't believe their own ideas.

00:30:01.000 Or they're whining and dining in Pitkin County or Kenny Bunkport, Maine about the ill effects of climate change.

00:30:07.000 And they say, oh, yeah, let's go to Paris on our Gulf Stream.

00:30:11.000 They don't believe their own stuff, but it gives them a sense of currency.

00:30:17.000 They trade on these luxury beliefs, no matter how contradictory they are to their own life.

00:30:23.000 And I've said this for many years.

00:30:25.000 This is one of my main arguments that I made on college campuses: conservatives are perfectly consistent with our private and public beliefs.

00:30:34.000 For example, I believe in borders.

00:30:36.000 I have nothing against people living in gated communities.

00:30:39.000 I believe in school choice.

00:30:40.000 I support homeschooling and sending kids to private schools.

00:30:43.000 I support firemownership.

00:30:45.000 I'm okay having armed guards at our events.

00:30:48.000 But the left has a tension where you can call it hypocrisy.

00:30:53.000 That is not the proper analysis.

00:30:56.000 It is not hypocrisy.

00:30:58.000 It is hierarchy.

00:31:01.000 It's not about them saying one thing and doing another.

00:31:04.000 They think they're better than you.

00:31:06.000 Rules need not apply to us, the ruling class. 0.95

00:31:11.000 Luxury beliefs are very dangerous.

00:31:14.000 They're dangerous because the people that are pushing them forward on an otherwise naive population, they would never have that happen to their own family, their own society.

00:31:27.000 The monogamy one is great, which is, yeah, do whatever you want to do, whenever you want to do it.

00:31:30.000 But us and our waspy, white Anglo-Saxon, Protestant, khaki-wearing enclave, we believe in traditional marriage around here.

00:31:40.000 Email us your thoughts, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:31:43.000 I think it's one of the reasons why we're going to win.

00:31:44.000 There's too much contradiction.

00:31:46.000 There's too much hierarchical hypocrisy that happens at the top levels of American society.

00:31:51.000 It's not sustainable for them.

00:31:53.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:31:54.000 Email me your thoughts as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:31:57.000 Thanks so much for listening.

00:31:58.000 God bless.

00:32:02.000 For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to CharlieKirk.com.

The Charlie Kirk Show - August 19, 2022

“Luxury Beliefs,” Liz Cheney, and Crushing Woke Corporations

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