The Charlie Kirk Show - August 25, 2022


MAGA Midterms: Trump's Outsized Primary Presence with Anna Paulina Luna and Rich Baris


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Ana Paula Luna and Richard Barris join Jack and Jack to discuss the results of the recent primary in Florida's 13th congressional primary and what they can do to win in the midterms. Jack also speaks with Charlie Kirk, who is running for President in 2020.

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00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, great episode.
00:00:01.000 We've got Ana Paulina Luna, who just won her congressional primary down there in Florida. 1.00
00:00:07.000 And then Richard Barris joins us to discuss whether or not Republicans are doing what they need to do to close the deal in the midterm elections.
00:00:15.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.
00:00:17.000 Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus.
00:00:19.000 I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk.
00:00:22.000 Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks.
00:00:25.000 I want to thank Charlie.
00:00:26.000 He's an incredible guy.
00:00:28.000 His spirit, his love of this country, he's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.
00:00:36.000 We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
00:00:45.000 That's why we are here.
00:00:48.000 Brought to you by the Loan Experts I Trust, Andrew and Todd at Sierra Pacific Mortgage at andrewandTodd.com.
00:00:57.000 Now, I want to dive right back into the news.
00:01:00.000 We just had some elections last night, and we are so honored to be able to bring on someone who not only was involved in the elections, but actually won her election down.
00:01:12.000 It was Florida 13th District.
00:01:13.000 This is Anna Paulina Luna, herself, an alumnus of Turning Point USA.
00:01:18.000 Anna, thank you so much for joining us today.
00:01:20.000 So happy to be back, Jack.
00:01:22.000 So tell me, how do you, what do you attribute your victory to?
00:01:25.000 And this is, this is Chris's old district.
00:01:27.000 Is that right?
00:01:28.000 Yeah, it's been redistricted.
00:01:30.000 So we're now in an open Republican seat.
00:01:32.000 The rating is an ARCBO7.
00:01:35.000 But really, I think that I attribute this to hard work and the grassroots.
00:01:38.000 You know, a lot of people, when they get involved in politics, they don't want to do the door knocking.
00:01:43.000 And by the end of this election, my team of about four people and myself had knocked over 14,000 doors.
00:01:49.000 We made over 38,000 phone calls.
00:01:52.000 And when you see the amount of money that they poured into us, they spent about $2.00.
00:01:57.000 And these attack ads, they were vicious.
00:01:59.000 I mean, you want to talk about clipping segments.
00:02:01.000 By the end of the race, they were saying that I was a far left Bernie Sanders supporter, which is totally crazy.
00:02:06.000 But nonetheless, you know, we were able to directly interact with voters and really brought home the win.
00:02:09.000 But it was, it was a brutal race.
00:02:11.000 It was probably one of the nastiest races in the country from what a lot of people were saying.
00:02:14.000 And we made it through by over 10 points.
00:02:17.000 Well, then what do you attribute that to?
00:02:18.000 Because, you know, this is one of those races where they say, you know, the primary is the real race, et cetera.
00:02:23.000 But, you know, so what do you attribute?
00:02:24.000 Why you?
00:02:25.000 Why now?
00:02:27.000 Why was it that the voters of your district wanted to back you for the seat?
00:02:31.000 You know, it was really telling, especially as everyone started focusing on the election after the FBI raid, how many people were silenced to include other Republicans.
00:02:41.000 You know, I took a strong stance against what had happened to President Trump with the FBI, but not just that.
00:02:46.000 Through the last couple of years, I've really shown people in this community that, you know, even though I might be the only one sometimes, as it feels standing and shouting the truth, I'm going to stand firm in that.
00:02:56.000 I think people right now, they don't want that Beltway Washington, D.C. politician.
00:03:01.000 They want people that are honest.
00:03:02.000 They want people that are normal from their same backgrounds and upbringings.
00:03:06.000 And they want people that are really going to help fight against this globalist agenda.
00:03:10.000 You know, we're seeing a lot of people that are increasingly scared at what's happening with the overreach of government.
00:03:15.000 It didn't just stop at the FBI raid with Mar-a-Lago.
00:03:18.000 They then basically took Representative Scott Perry's phones.
00:03:21.000 We're seeing this January 6th commission that's really been weaponized against the American people.
00:03:25.000 And there's a lot of people, they might not say it, but it scares them.
00:03:28.000 And so I think having strong leaders, having people speak the truth like myself is what really set me apart from the underlying that's running.
00:03:35.000 It's not just the fact that you've been outspoken on all these things, but because you have been willing to embrace MAGA.
00:03:43.000 And we see here in this image that Trump's endorsement really has been the single, and it's actually getting stronger.
00:03:51.000 It's even gotten stronger when we're told that it was, that he's done.
00:03:55.000 He's out of politics.
00:03:56.000 America's left him behind.
00:03:58.000 The people left him behind.
00:03:59.000 He got behind you.
00:04:00.000 You've embraced MAGA.
00:04:02.000 You've embraced this movement.
00:04:04.000 And it looks as though the voters of your district are absolutely on board with that as well.
00:04:09.000 Yeah, we had over we had over a thousand people, Jack, show up to a campaign rally for my congressional seat here in Florida 13, you know, where MTG came down and Kimberly Guilfoil.
00:04:19.000 But to have that type of momentum show up for a candidate for Congress is pretty unheard of.
00:04:24.000 And that is really the power of the MAGA movement.
00:04:26.000 You know, a lot of people, I think that those rumors were actually placed by political operatives that are anti-Trump.
00:04:32.000 I can tell you right now that MAGA's not going anywhere.
00:04:35.000 And it's really been interesting to see how Beltway DC has really looked and kind of tried to figure out why is it that the American people love President Trump and the message of MAGA.
00:04:44.000 And that's because that movement is for us.
00:04:47.000 It's no longer about, you know, very wealthy people dictating to the people what it is.
00:04:51.000 It's the people rising up from the bottom, telling the top how it's going to be.
00:04:55.000 And so I'm a populist.
00:04:56.000 I tell people, you know, I'm not afraid of wearing denim and going out into the community.
00:05:00.000 That's who I am.
00:05:01.000 And so that's exactly what I plan on, frankly, bringing back to Washington, D.C. this November.
00:05:06.000 Well, and Anna, you know, Producer Connor actually just caught in the images, he said, right behind you.
00:05:13.000 I think that's something that looks familiar to me.
00:05:16.000 Is that an icon of St. Michael, the archangel that you have right behind you there?
00:05:19.000 Yeah, it is.
00:05:20.000 I actually, I bought this actually in Turpin Springs, but you have a few icons in our house.
00:05:24.000 And if you don't think that this battle is spiritual, you haven't been paying attention.
00:05:27.000 I can tell you that there's a lot that we're seeing.
00:05:30.000 God is real.
00:05:31.000 God is good.
00:05:31.000 And I think that when you're fighting for righteousness, you're on the right side of God and then he's going to do the work for you.
00:05:36.000 Oh, 100%.
00:05:37.000 And by the way, though, it's, you know, I've got to say this, though.
00:05:41.000 You know, we talked about the Trump endorsement.
00:05:43.000 We talked about the fact that you embraced MAGA, but we all know what the real reason is.
00:05:46.000 And I actually know this because I've got the receipts.
00:05:49.000 And I know we didn't discuss this before, but I'm going to have to say it.
00:05:52.000 I'm going to have to say it because not only were you out there knocking on doors, but you had a little posto power that was down there in that district.
00:06:00.000 Because my brother, believe it or not, when he came down to SAS to 20 point SAS, he decided to stay and then just volunteer essentially for your campaign in the primary.
00:06:11.000 He's been at all the events.
00:06:12.000 He's been at the door knocks.
00:06:13.000 Was he there last night?
00:06:14.000 I think he was there.
00:06:15.000 He was there last night.
00:06:16.000 I said, hey, can I get a hard commitment?
00:06:18.000 You need to come on down here.
00:06:19.000 So I think he's actually probably going to be officially saying he's going to be moving down here, hopefully soon.
00:06:24.000 I told him, I said, if you come down here, you're not going to give us a power.
00:06:27.000 I'm not giving him back.
00:06:28.000 He's staying down here.
00:06:29.000 We need to solidify the Florida MAGA movement.
00:06:32.000 All right.
00:06:32.000 Kevin Pozovic, brother Pozo, is going to be staying down there.
00:06:36.000 He is going to be deployed to Florida for the purposes of making sure that we secure Adam Polini's victory and Polina Luna and everybody else who's down there.
00:06:44.000 But so we're looking at your election specifically, but let's talk Florida and I guess the country in general where we look at these midterm elections, because you've been a great political strategist as well.
00:06:55.000 We had Congressman Matt Gates on at the top of the show.
00:06:57.000 We did have Congresswoman Margaret Shayla Green. 1.00
00:06:59.000 She talked about being assaulted, not assaulted, but swatted last night, this attack where they wanted her to be assaulted or possibly worse.
00:07:07.000 When you know that things like that are potentially in the cards, why is this that you want something that you want to get into?
00:07:15.000 Why do you want to get into this when you know those threats and the pain box are something they can put you in with the smears, the attacks, and everything else?
00:07:22.000 Why do all this?
00:07:24.000 Because we live in the greatest country in the world and there's only one like it.
00:07:28.000 If the United States ceases to exist, that's it for us.
00:07:31.000 You know, we are the beacon of hope and freedom.
00:07:33.000 I've been to, Jack, I've been to over 25 countries around the world.
00:07:36.000 And I can tell you that the United States, everyone wishes that they had the opportunity and freedoms that we have here.
00:07:42.000 Unfortunately, there are people in DC that don't like this country.
00:07:45.000 There are people that are in DC that are foreign actors.
00:07:48.000 They are involved with foreign governments and they want our country to crumble.
00:07:51.000 And because of the fact that I think you and I both understand from a military perspective that sometimes maybe it's not the easiest thing to do, but it's the right thing to do.
00:08:00.000 And if we as good people don't stand up, then it's going to be, you know, these sociopath weirdos that just want, you know, power and control to get into office.
00:08:08.000 And we have to fight back.
00:08:09.000 So that's why I'm doing what I'm doing.
00:08:10.000 No, there's nowhere else to go.
00:08:11.000 Tell us a little bit more also about the fact of this Hispanic swing.
00:08:16.000 Are you seeing that in your district?
00:08:18.000 Did you see that in the primary as well?
00:08:20.000 We're tracking this across the country, Rio Grande Valley.
00:08:22.000 What are you seeing on the ground there in Florida in terms of this?
00:08:25.000 I think in Florida in general, you know, my demographic, there's not really a massive Hispanic voting bloc.
00:08:31.000 It's about 9% to 10%.
00:08:32.000 So I still engage.
00:08:33.000 But what I'm seeing across the state of Florida is that people who have fled communism, surprise, surprise, are very alarmed at what's happening with this administration.
00:08:41.000 You are seeing a massive shift of these formerly Democrat Hispanics that are now voting Republican because they realize the platform of the Democrat Party does not align with us religiously.
00:08:54.000 Now, one of the biggest problems we're now seeing is the mainstream media, specifically those that are funded and bought out and controlled by Soros, are actually going and purchasing conservative radio stations, conservative news outlets to stop the information and really to control the information war.
00:09:11.000 And so what I'm telling people, and I actually opened up my campaign to Telemundo, who typically was left-leaning, because I understand that we have to break out of the echo chamber and engage so that our ideas, our message, and our platform is reaching those voters that might be kind of in a box because of the power, power struggle we're currently seeing.
00:09:31.000 So I can tell you that there's going to be a continued shift.
00:09:34.000 But if you are Hispanic, if you are conservative, we have to be engaging this base because this is where from elections here on out for the presidentials, it's going to be fought with the Hispanic voting bloc.
00:09:45.000 We are inherently conservative, but there's a massive information war and a fight that we have.
00:09:49.000 And frankly, there's not a lot of funding going to some of these conservative Spanish news outlets and we need it.
00:09:54.000 Let's hold on to that because I think that's a very important.
00:09:56.000 I know you've been involved with El American and some of the others.
00:09:59.000 This is, it's very important that people understand this because it's not just about Florida.
00:10:03.000 It's about going into every single one of these battleground states and understanding that there is money to be made there.
00:10:11.000 Look, we talk about current events a lot on this show, but there's other things that are in life that are bigger than current events, bigger things.
00:10:17.000 We try to do some shows every so often on these things.
00:10:20.000 But look, what am I talking about when I say that?
00:10:22.000 How about good and evil?
00:10:23.000 Right and wrong, prayer and the Bible or heaven and hell.
00:10:26.000 So look, the great C.S. Lewis, who's one of the most amazing minds ever to exist, who's a master at addressing these questions.
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00:10:53.000 He wrote more than the Narnia series, by the way.
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00:11:43.000 Charlie4Hillsdale.com.
00:11:48.000 Just got a message in, by the way, here.
00:11:50.000 I do actually read the live chats, you know, folks, when I get a chance and it says, let's all rally around Anna Paulina Luna, Florida 13, to defeat Eric Lynn.
00:12:00.000 We need reps who will deal with inflation, education, crime, and immigration, not national security swamp creatures that will vote to sell strategic oil reserves to China. 0.93
00:12:11.000 Tell us about your opponent.
00:12:12.000 So Eric Lynn was actually an Obama appointee.
00:12:15.000 He's very well funded.
00:12:17.000 People have, you know, said, okay, this is a red seat.
00:12:20.000 However, he's sitting on about $3 million in a super PAC.
00:12:23.000 I think it was actually given to him by someone special interest money.
00:12:27.000 And then he's sitting on about a million bucks.
00:12:29.000 But the thing is, is that these people, Democrats especially, they falsely branded themselves as the candidate of the people when in actuality, he is literally working for special interests and for, I believe, the military industrial complex.
00:12:43.000 He likes to say that he was the Obama appointee, that he helped out with the Iron Dome.
00:12:47.000 But the fact is, is that the Democrats, as we saw with the botched withdrawing Afghanistan, have no cares.
00:12:52.000 They have no skin in the game with military service members.
00:12:55.000 And so I'm fighting.
00:12:56.000 I'm going to treat this like I'm 10 points behind, even though I'm projected to win the race and we're going to beat them on the ground game.
00:13:02.000 I think that's right now.
00:13:03.000 I've got to ask you on about the news of the day, because look, you are going to be representing Florida 13.
00:13:10.000 But there's been this huge issue.
00:13:12.000 President Biden essentially saying that he wants to buy the votes of millennials, Zoomers. 1.00
00:13:18.000 He knows that that's been the biggest demographic that he's lost since 2020.
00:13:25.000 So he wants to buy their votes back with the student loan program.
00:13:28.000 What should a new right conservative, a new right Republican, what can you say to them?
00:13:34.000 Because here's the deal, right?
00:13:34.000 The way I look at it is I think this is going to be popular with those voters, but then what do you say to them in response to it?
00:13:43.000 Well, Jack, you know, I'll use my example, my story.
00:13:46.000 I grew up within the welfare system.
00:13:47.000 I wanted to go to college.
00:13:48.000 I couldn't afford it.
00:13:49.000 So I enlisted in the Air Force and actually paid my way through college.
00:13:53.000 You know, when I was later on accepted into medical school, my husband signed over his GI Bill.
00:13:57.000 The point is, is that you are born in one of the greatest countries in the world.
00:14:00.000 You can do anything as long as you put forward hard work and effort.
00:14:03.000 But when you have politicians, especially saying, hey, we'll just forgive your student loan debt.
00:14:08.000 What does that say to people that have actually paid their way through school, worked hard to get where we're at?
00:14:12.000 It's simply not fair.
00:14:13.000 And I'm against it for those reasons.
00:14:15.000 But also, too, let's talk about the fact that a majority of these people that are actually having issues with repaying back their student loans, they're also majoring in things that they simply can't make money.
00:14:25.000 That's predatory, in my opinion, from some of these organizations like Fannie Mae.
00:14:29.000 But when you look at the fact that you can literally get a job as a welder or as a crane operator and make six figures, yet if you major in basket weaving at whatever university that you're complaining that you can't pay off your debt, you also need to accept responsibility as an adult.
00:14:43.000 Well, that's one thing too.
00:14:45.000 But to me, they're so predatory.
00:14:48.000 And the way that Obama set this up, the guy who appointed your opponent was that essentially saying, you know, it's going to be so easy.
00:14:54.000 It's free money, right?
00:14:55.000 It's basically free money, free college.
00:14:57.000 Then this is the path and you can go forward and you can set yourself up for life.
00:15:02.000 But instead, that's not what you're actually getting because those jobs don't exist anymore.
00:15:07.000 Post-pandemic, they really don't exist.
00:15:10.000 And now suddenly, oh, we're just going to pay that off.
00:15:12.000 You know, it not only is it a slap in the face to so many people, but it's also, it's a lie from the start because they're not shutting down these predatory programs.
00:15:20.000 Is that something that you as a sitting member of Congress would fight for?
00:15:24.000 100%.
00:15:26.000 You know, there was, I think I had heard someone float around an idea too that these schools need to accept responsibility for this.
00:15:31.000 You know, these schools get massive government funding and yet they're pushing these programs where you know that these students are not going to be able to actually make it in the real world because the degree is useless.
00:15:41.000 And so I think that there does need to be accountability held for this.
00:15:44.000 But then, also, too, I think as a society, culturally, we need to stop looking down on people that haven't gone to college.
00:15:50.000 We need to stop looking down at people that have specialized trades because, as a country, that makes someone powerful.
00:15:55.000 Right now, China has it. 0.98
00:15:56.000 They're kicking our butts. 0.97
00:15:57.000 And yet, we don't have that here. 0.96
00:15:59.000 And so, I think that we need to start addressing it differently in that aspect and then also address the predatory aspect as well.
00:16:04.000 Harvard is sitting on top of $54 billion of a hedge fund that they call an endowment.
00:16:08.000 Yale has $31 billion.
00:16:10.000 Stanford, $29 billion.
00:16:11.000 Princeton, $26 billion.
00:16:13.000 It's completely insane.
00:16:14.000 Why aren't we using that money?
00:16:15.000 Adam, we're just about out of time.
00:16:17.000 What is your website?
00:16:18.000 Where can people go to follow you?
00:16:19.000 And will you give my brother back?
00:16:22.000 Yes, I'm not giving your brother back.
00:16:24.000 You can head over to voteap.com.
00:16:26.000 Please consider donating.
00:16:27.000 We need all the help that we can get, and we'll be flipping the house this November.
00:16:31.000 Flipping the house this November.
00:16:33.000 It starts in Florida.
00:16:34.000 It's going across the country.
00:16:36.000 God bless you.
00:16:37.000 Voteapl.com is the site.
00:16:39.000 People go support her and support so many candidates.
00:16:42.000 Member, we said this yesterday.
00:16:43.000 Donate to candidates directly.
00:16:45.000 Cut out the middleman.
00:16:47.000 Don't even mess with it anymore.
00:16:49.000 God bless you.
00:16:49.000 By the way, congratulations.
00:16:51.000 I know it must be pretty fun.
00:16:52.000 So I hope you're taking some time off, you know, a little bit of time to just celebrate and enjoy that.
00:16:57.000 Thank you very much, Jack.
00:16:58.000 We'll talk soon.
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00:18:47.000 They're wonderful people.
00:18:48.000 AndrewandTodd.com.
00:18:53.000 I want to bring in now Richard Barris, the people's pundit, not only to break down yesterday's elections, what we can learn from them, but this gambit, this huge gambit over essentially bribing younger voters.
00:19:04.000 Richard, thank you so much for joining the program.
00:19:07.000 Oh, always, my friend.
00:19:08.000 Good to be here.
00:19:09.000 Thanks for having me.
00:19:10.000 So we know that Biden lost, and I think this narrative is true, that he lost a lot of support with those younger voters.
00:19:15.000 Is this going to work?
00:19:16.000 Is he going to bribe them back?
00:19:19.000 Yeah, here, I've always been skeptical on that because, you know, when we ask younger voters, why?
00:19:24.000 Why did Biden lose you?
00:19:26.000 What is the reason that you disapprove of the job he's doing?
00:19:30.000 What's your most important voting issue this upcoming midterm or period?
00:19:35.000 And student loans are really not up there, Jack.
00:19:38.000 There are some who don't even have student loans.
00:19:41.000 But generally speaking, their problem is the, for younger voters specifically, it's inflation, like others, and cost of living in general.
00:19:50.000 And when we specifically ask them, they're a little bit different than older people or people who have families who may say, you know, gas, groceries.
00:19:58.000 Their problem is housing and that they can't really, you know, they can't afford rent or they definitely can't afford a house now.
00:20:05.000 So, you know, this is a risk.
00:20:07.000 It is a risk because you risk alienating.
00:20:11.000 so many other people that are honestly more inclined to vote Democrat now and are and are likely voters.
00:20:18.000 Here's something that I want to point out, though, is that you had a tweet about this up last night where you essentially said, and correct me if I'm wrong, but you were talking about educated white voters.
00:20:29.000 And so, okay, those are people that are more typically going to have these student loans.
00:20:33.000 Aren't they kind of already voting Democrat?
00:20:36.000 They are.
00:20:37.000 And, you know, some of them already paid their student loans off.
00:20:41.000 Others make too much money to even qualify for this program, Jack.
00:20:46.000 So, you know, the textbook Democrat right now is an educated voter who makes a lot of money.
00:20:53.000 So, you know, again, there's a lot of details in this plan, but it seems to me that he can risk, you know, ticking off a lot of people, you know, from maybe in a game of a few.
00:21:08.000 I'm not at all convinced that this is a net game in the end.
00:21:11.000 I'm really not.
00:21:13.000 So if that's the case, then what should Republicans be looking at?
00:21:18.000 Because the theme that we had this week, and I needed to get you on about this.
00:21:23.000 I said, are Republicans sleepwalking into these midterms?
00:21:26.000 Are they closing?
00:21:27.000 Where's the close?
00:21:28.000 Where's the closing message?
00:21:29.000 Then we see this special election up in the Hudson Valley.
00:21:32.000 I don't know if this is as much of a bellwether as the media wants us to think that's this massive bellwether, but we're starting to see potential cracks in this narrative or this sense that I think people had that a red wave is just inevitable.
00:21:45.000 What do you think about all that?
00:21:47.000 I do think that there were some pretty significant warning signs yesterday.
00:21:52.000 The media is always going to overblow, you know, that they're always going to blow things out of proportion.
00:21:58.000 I will preface this with this, though.
00:22:00.000 In a larger turnout electorate, New York 19's fallen to Republicans.
00:22:05.000 In a larger turnout electorate, New York 23 is going to go back to a double-digit win for Republicans.
00:22:12.000 The problem is getting those voters out in a larger electorate, Jack.
00:22:16.000 And I think even looking around from New York to Florida, I saw signs that Republicans have a problem getting voters out on their own, you know, for these specials.
00:22:25.000 There were also competitive races in New York on the Democratic side that Republicans did not have in the Hudson Valley.
00:22:32.000 So you already had more Democrats that wanted, that were going out to vote for these other races.
00:22:38.000 So that's something to keep in mind.
00:22:40.000 But I did see some warning signs in areas in South Florida, Florida 27, Maria Salazar.
00:22:46.000 You know, that looks like it's going to be closer than it should.
00:22:48.000 Maria Salazar lost in 18 to Donna Shalala. 0.99
00:22:52.000 She won in 2020.
00:22:53.000 And I know this because we polled it.
00:22:55.000 There were a lot of new right Hispanic voters who love Donald Trump and basically just said, you know what, whoever's got an R next to their name, I'm going to give it to them.
00:23:04.000 So, you know, without Donald Trump on the ballot, can Maria Salazar perform as well? 0.97
00:23:09.000 I think the answer is no.
00:23:11.000 Now, I'm not saying she's going to lose, but there's, you know, this new coalition forming on the right.
00:23:17.000 And it's a bigger, better coalition.
00:23:20.000 It's just a matter of these are lower propensity voters and they don't tend to go out and vote all the time without Donald Trump helping them along or pushing them to do so.
00:23:29.000 They're skeptical of Republicans still.
00:23:32.000 But the problem is, and not the problem, but see what you're saying, it's the exact, I think what you're saying is right, by the way, but it's the exact opposite of what the media is saying.
00:23:40.000 Because here, let's play a clip and get your response to it.
00:23:42.000 Guys, play clip 55 about New York 19.
00:23:45.000 Pat Ryan, the Democrat, has been elected to Congress in a special election from New York's 19th congressional district.
00:23:52.000 He defeats Republican Mark Molinaro.
00:23:55.000 This is a significant victory, not just for Pat Ryan in this district.
00:24:00.000 This is a significant victory for Democrats nationally, because it gets to the heart of the question that we've been asking politically for the last two months, Ned, is whether the political climate in this country has changed, specifically in the wake of the Supreme Court ruling that overturned Roe versus Wade.
00:24:18.000 That is the narrative that they have been pushing so hard.
00:24:21.000 Politico is saying the same thing in political playbook.
00:24:24.000 Oh, it's Roe v. Wade, it's Roe v. Wade, it's Dobbs.
00:24:26.000 I mean, I keep hearing this from the media, Rich, but I don't see it.
00:24:31.000 And you're not saying it.
00:24:32.000 What are you seeing?
00:24:34.000 Yeah, and I mean, we're just not seeing that in the polls either.
00:24:36.000 I mean, it's just not true.
00:24:38.000 This has nothing to do with Roe v. Wade.
00:24:40.000 This has to do with a special election that drew 120,000 voters in a district where there are well over 300,000 in a general election.
00:24:49.000 You know, when you have these special elections with lower turnouts, you get a lot more ancestral voting behavior, ancestral party voting behavior, meaning, you know, those new voters who are persuadable, going one party over the other, those trends are really not picked up until general elections come along and there's a wider electorate there.
00:25:05.000 The problem, well, they don't want to give Donald Trump any credit.
00:25:08.000 That's really what this comes down to.
00:25:10.000 The real problem is that in New York, in California, in places where Donald Trump was not involved in these fights, we did not see historic turnout.
00:25:19.000 In areas like Arizona, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Ohio, even Georgia, where the president lost that fight, the one and only place he lost.
00:25:28.000 Turnout was historic.
00:25:30.000 And in places like California and New York, it's where he wasn't a presence.
00:25:36.000 It's anemic.
00:25:37.000 And that is the problem.
00:25:38.000 Republican voters are not as motivated as they were in, you know, everywhere, I should say, as they were a couple of months ago.
00:25:47.000 You know, it's when the president gets involved, you know, he gets those juices pumping, man.
00:25:50.000 The base wants to go out and vote.
00:25:52.000 But in this race, Kevin McCarthy and, you know, the establishment in general, they thought Molinaro, being from Dutchess County, was going to outperform.
00:26:02.000 They didn't want Trump anywhere near it.
00:26:04.000 They didn't want him anywhere around these races. 1.00
00:26:07.000 They thought they had this in the bag.
00:26:09.000 They did.
00:26:10.000 They believed Molinaro was going to win by at least five points, maybe a double-digit blowout.
00:26:16.000 They over, you know, they were wrong.
00:26:18.000 And I like Steve Kornacki.
00:26:19.000 He's the only one I like at MSNBC, but he's wrong.
00:26:22.000 He's wrong about this.
00:26:24.000 It is a significant win for Democrats, but he's wrong about why.
00:26:28.000 If you would have exit polled those voters on the way out, they are not going to tell you.
00:26:31.000 You would not have heard, I voted against Molinaro because of Dobbs. 1.00
00:26:35.000 You would not have heard that.
00:26:37.000 The difference is that he did so much better.
00:26:39.000 Ryan did so much better in Ulster County, where he's from, and he won educated burbs by a larger margin.
00:26:46.000 The working class vote was not as big.
00:26:49.000 It's that simple.
00:26:50.000 It really is.
00:26:52.000 Another 40,000 votes.
00:26:53.000 He loses by 10 points.
00:26:56.000 By that same token, talk about the Sabatini race.
00:26:59.000 This was something that where we also saw some of this leadership get involved.
00:27:05.000 Yeah.
00:27:06.000 They dumped a lot of money to help Mills. 0.99
00:27:08.000 McCarthy played his hand well there.
00:27:10.000 He knew it was a race that Trump was not going to get involved in.
00:27:13.000 I don't know how much I want to go into detail about that, but there are just some people that surround themselves with others.
00:27:19.000 And Trump, he likes his people.
00:27:24.000 Give us the details.
00:27:25.000 We want the detail.
00:27:25.000 That's what we go to Richard Barris for.
00:27:27.000 Sabatini wasn't helped by the right people.
00:27:32.000 And sometimes, if you go, let me just put it this way: if you have certain consultants around you, you're going to be blacklisted by the NRCC.
00:27:40.000 If you get blacklisted by the NRCC, then you better be in good with Donald Trump or the NRC is going to come after you. 0.96
00:27:46.000 And if those very same people piss the NRCC off and Donald Trump's people off, then you're screwed. 0.97
00:27:52.000 I mean, it's that simple.
00:27:53.000 And, you know, that's, I think that's a tragedy there for the base because Sabatini is by far the MAGA candidate.
00:28:02.000 It just, it didn't.
00:28:04.000 And then, by the way, that same token, it hindered your ability to raise money.
00:28:07.000 And Mills, he had help from McCarthy.
00:28:10.000 He did not have a blacklist on him for fundraising.
00:28:13.000 And Sabatini has been a thorn in people's side because he is MAGA.
00:28:18.000 So he was already running with that handicap. 0.98
00:28:20.000 So, you know, at the end of the day, Jack, he didn't get his message across.
00:28:24.000 It's crowded, yes, but he didn't get his message across.
00:28:27.000 And Mills didn't, you know, talking about this idea of the student loans.
00:28:32.000 Will the student loans be enough to buy off the younger voters?
00:28:35.000 Maybe, maybe not, right?
00:28:36.000 Because we're also hearing, you know, a lot of these younger voters, a lot of younger people are saying they're going on board.
00:28:41.000 I hear this with millennials all the time.
00:28:43.000 I don't care about owning a house.
00:28:44.000 That sounds like a lot of work.
00:28:46.000 It's like they are falling right into the World Economic Forum trap, this great reset agenda of what do we need that for?
00:28:52.000 I don't need a house.
00:28:53.000 I don't need a car.
00:28:54.000 I don't need a family.
00:28:55.000 They care so much about climate change.
00:28:58.000 That is their Gaia.
00:29:00.000 That is their lodestar, their guiding light in terms of the world.
00:29:04.000 And they don't think that Joe Biden is doing enough about it, even though the Inflation Reduction Act really was a backdoor Green New Deal.
00:29:10.000 It just hasn't been painted as such for moderate voters.
00:29:13.000 And so they're not talking, they don't actually give him any credit for it.
00:29:16.000 I don't think.
00:29:17.000 Are Republicans doing what they need to do?
00:29:19.000 Are they closing?
00:29:20.000 Are they closing the deal with these midterm elections?
00:29:23.000 And if not, what do they need to do?
00:29:26.000 Yeah, I think, you know, it would be unfair to wrap them all up together.
00:29:29.000 Some are doing great, but ultimately, what happens here, Jack, without in the absence of a sitting president being the face of a political party, you have the leaders in the House and in the Senate being the faces.
00:29:41.000 They're the ones who come to the microphone.
00:29:43.000 They're the ones who put out the agendas on social media and then talk to the voters in a national space.
00:29:50.000 And that being said, neither Kevin McCarthy or Mitch McConnell are particularly representative of a modern Republican voter and definitely not representative of those lower propensity voters that really made up that, you know, the groundswell of MAGA turnout.
00:30:07.000 So I think you compare it before to 94.
00:30:11.000 It was completely, it made sense and people were in lockstep with it.
00:30:16.000 Newt Gingrich had that contract with America and everyone knew the talking points.
00:30:20.000 Everyone delivered on them.
00:30:22.000 Maybe a couple of months ago, Kevin McCarthy looked like he was going to come out with one himself, something like that.
00:30:27.000 He does technically have one.
00:30:29.000 You wouldn't be able to name even the three out of five bullet points on it because nobody knows what they are.
00:30:36.000 Many people that I spoke to that remember some of this, all they remember is that they mocked him for the parent, the way that he delivered the parents' Bill of Rights.
00:30:43.000 So it is not the close that we've seen them make before.
00:30:47.000 In 2010, it was Obamacare.
00:30:50.000 In 2014, it was kind of like Obamacare 2.0.
00:30:54.000 Here, it's nothing.
00:30:56.000 And, you know, you have a major problem when leaders are funding a lot or helping the Biden agenda in a lot in a lot of these ways.
00:31:04.000 It's hard to send $50 billion to Ukraine, man, and then complain about inflation.
00:31:09.000 You know, so made the same exact comment right before he came on.
00:31:13.000 It's incoherent.
00:31:14.000 You're complaining about socialism when it comes to these handouts for the student loan debt forgiveness, but at the same time, we're rubber stamping every single, it seems like a billion dollars a week feels like a billion dollars a week.
00:31:27.000 And then videos of Mitch McConnell, you know, pop up.
00:31:31.000 You know, I think Merrick Garland, I told Trump Merrick Garland should be the next attorney general.
00:31:36.000 I mean, this is crazy.
00:31:38.000 This is not, this was something I was concerned about for Republicans going into this primary cycle and why I said it was so important that MAGA candidates win.
00:31:47.000 They're going to have to do their thing.
00:31:49.000 They really are.
00:31:50.000 And that's, you know, having each individual race, you know, localized like that makes it infinitely harder than when you have a national message that everyone's behind.
00:31:59.000 And the truth is, you know, they want to win primaries on a message that they don't really believe in.
00:32:04.000 You know, when I'm talking about these leaders.
00:32:06.000 So when they, when it's time to pivot, they can't.
00:32:09.000 And in your opinion, does it seem as though that there are some Republicans at the national level that would be okay with losing?
00:32:19.000 Oh, yeah.
00:32:21.000 Absolutely.
00:32:22.000 I mean, I've been saying this now for a while, and I was deadly serious.
00:32:26.000 You know, of course, Kevin McCarthy wants to be speaker, but he does not want to be speaker of a house with a massive majority of new MAGA Republicans. 0.64
00:32:34.000 He doesn't want to be Boehner.
00:32:35.000 He remembers what happened to John Boehner, and he doesn't want to end up in that same category.
00:32:40.000 So he is okay with losing some of these races if it means the situation doesn't get out of control. 0.96
00:32:46.000 Unpacked that.
00:32:47.000 What happened to Boehner?
00:32:48.000 Well, Boehner couldn't control the Tea Party grounds well that came beneath his feet.
00:32:52.000 He was, he, you know, they did at first anyway, you know, support his speakership, but then they wanted something.
00:33:01.000 You know, they dared to want something from him, and that was to deliver on those promises.
00:33:06.000 But Boehner never really believed in those promises.
00:33:09.000 So it was a constant fight between all of these new members of this movement with the establishment who is just completely happy to control the opposite, to be controlled opposition and to manage decline.
00:33:21.000 So you look at Mitch McConnell.
00:33:23.000 The fact is, you know, seniority is currency in Washington, D.C. in the Congress.
00:33:29.000 So he's good.
00:33:30.000 He's going to get his benefactors' bills.
00:33:32.000 They're going to be in there.
00:33:33.000 They won't advance.
00:33:34.000 It's that simple.
00:33:35.000 He doesn't really need to be in the majority to make that happen for his people.
00:33:39.000 You know, so what he doesn't want is JD Vance and Blake Masters and, you know, whoever else.
00:33:46.000 You come constantly breathing down his throat.
00:33:48.000 This isn't MAGA.
00:33:49.000 This isn't what we were elected for.
00:33:51.000 The American people did not give you the majority again to do this or that.
00:33:55.000 They don't want that without a doubt.
00:33:57.000 I think you're right.
00:33:58.000 I think that's why you're getting these statements from McConnell saying, having issues with candidate quality.
00:34:02.000 Where can people go to follow you?
00:34:03.000 I know you got the live streams going out.
00:34:05.000 I think you're going to be doing more of those.
00:34:07.000 Give us your coordinates.
00:34:08.000 Yeah.
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