The Charlie Kirk Show - MAGA Mike Takes the Gavel with Matthew Peterson and Caroline Glick

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00:01:04.000 One of the most important organizations on the right is the Blaze, and it has a new look, a new approach, and a new editor-in-chief, Matthew Peterson, who has been on our program many times.

00:01:15.000 Matt, congratulations.

00:01:16.000 Tell us all about it.

00:01:18.000 Thank you, Charlie.

00:01:19.000 It's a pleasure to be here today.

00:01:21.000 Big day for Blaze.

00:01:23.000 I mean, this week we're ripping off the band-aid and going to subscribers only.

00:01:28.000 There'll be no advertising on our site.

00:01:30.000 And if you're like me, you know, it's like eye cancer looking at these things with the toe fungus ads and all this.

00:01:37.000 And all that is big tech.

00:01:39.000 I mean, all of that is being used to demonetize us anyway.

00:01:44.000 So we're going straight to the people, subscriber content.

00:01:48.000 We're going to do a lot more of it.

00:01:49.000 Yeah.

00:01:50.000 So tell us more about kind of the new look, the new approach.

00:01:53.000 And I mean, that's a risky model, right?

00:01:55.000 Because, you know, paywalls, not everyone's going to be able to access it.

00:01:58.000 So walk us through the approach here.

00:02:00.000 Yeah.

00:02:00.000 Well, first off, I mean, aesthetics matter.

00:02:03.000 You know, you talk about this, Charlie.

00:02:05.000 I mean, I feel like a lot of times on the right, these big media outfits don't get me started on the biggest one.

00:02:13.000 Don't respect their audience.

00:02:15.000 And we wanted to create something beautiful and then relied directly on the people.

00:02:20.000 And if you go to the Blaze, you know, go toblaze.com.

00:02:23.000 You'll see this is a beautiful new website.

00:02:25.000 It's clean.

00:02:26.000 It respects its audience.

00:02:28.000 It's beautiful.

00:02:29.000 And we're just going right to the people and saying, support us, subscribe.

00:02:33.000 And we're talking three bucks a month to support real journalism that we're going to expand into all these areas that the right doesn't even usually talk about, you know, like lifestyle, sports, I mean, all that sort of thing.

00:02:45.000 And I just got sick of, as you know, a lot of people not doing it, not doing what they should, not really doing the deal, not really serving the audience.

00:02:54.000 And we're going to serve the audience and we have faith that they will respond in kind.

00:02:58.000 Yeah, talk about the conservative kind of media landscape or the, you know, the one, conservative is quite a term for it.

00:03:05.000 But, you know, there's the big, the big uglies, not going to say any names.

00:03:09.000 They tend to be farther and farther away from the people that they monetize, the audience, that there is an agenda that is incongruent with the people that they need to keep on purchasing the ads or the eyeballs.

00:03:25.000 Do you think that's sustainable?

00:03:27.000 And what are you at the Blaze seeking to do about this opportunity?

00:03:31.000 Yeah, so I mean, I'm so excited to talk about this.

00:03:34.000 It's as if I've been waiting my whole life for this moment.

00:03:37.000 I mean, as you know, the big dogs aren't doing the deal.

00:03:41.000 And they just, even as bad as people in the house are, you know, there's decent Republicans who don't even want to talk to a certain news channel anymore.

00:03:50.000 That's correct.

00:03:50.000 That got rid of the most famous, the most successful guy on broadcast TV and news was Tucker Carlson.

00:03:58.000 And he was, you know, they just got rid of him as if it was nothing.

00:04:01.000 That's because they don't actually agree with their audience.

00:04:04.000 The people running the show, the actual people who own the company, right, don't agree with the audience.

00:04:10.000 They're just trying to make money.

00:04:11.000 I think that that era is over.

00:04:14.000 People are hip to it.

00:04:15.000 They're wise to it.

00:04:16.000 And they do not want that garbage anymore.

00:04:19.000 They're starving for people who really care and are really trying to do something, whether that's in, you know, in business or activism.

00:04:26.000 And, you know, that's that's why people support you, Charlie Kirk.

00:04:30.000 I mean, they're looking for people who are actually going to lead.

00:04:34.000 I am here only because I am convinced that we have that team at the top.

00:04:40.000 And if we go direct to the audience with what they really want, deserve, we're all going to win and be the better for it.

00:04:45.000 Yeah.

00:04:46.000 And there's this untapped potential out there of content that aesthetically is very pleasing.

00:04:53.000 And I know you used that word beautiful.

00:04:54.000 You and I both know what that means in the classical sense.

00:04:57.000 That is what that which is perfected in being.

00:04:59.000 The audience might just think, oh, you're going to have good looking people.

00:05:02.000 That's not what it really means, right?

00:05:03.000 It's understanding that we live in an ugly society with an increasingly ugly flow of imagery, videos, language.

00:05:15.000 Dare I say that the news content and the cultural content that is being pushed forward is filled more in the profane than the holy.

00:05:24.000 Just kind of take a step back, you know, Matt, and talk from a classical perspective.

00:05:28.000 What is beautiful and why should we try to create things that point upwards?

00:05:33.000 Yeah, well, you know, truth, goodness, and beauty, right?

00:05:36.000 The truth is being as known, the good is being as desired.

00:05:41.000 What's this beauty thing?

00:05:42.000 And it's when we really experience both.

00:05:45.000 We take pleasure in seeing beautiful things.

00:05:50.000 And when we use that word, what we mean are things that are ordered, that are perfected, as I think you said.

00:05:58.000 And that's important because the medium is the message.

00:06:01.000 I mean, if you really have something important to say, right, you need all those things to work together.

00:06:06.000 If you really respect the audience, you need those things to work together because we're trying to lift you up to the truths.

00:06:11.000 We're trying to help you find what's truly good that's going to help you in your life.

00:06:17.000 We're going to do lifestyle content.

00:06:18.000 We're already doing it.

00:06:19.000 And when we do that, we're just going to explore: hey, how should I live in this you know what show of a world in the 21st century?

00:06:27.000 How do I live a decent life?

00:06:28.000 How do I find a decent spouse?

00:06:30.000 How do I raise my kids in this world?

00:06:33.000 And you know, you can't trust the experts, right?

00:06:35.000 Who's actually trying to do something that's good, that's healthy, that's fitting, that builds civilization rather than tears it down.

00:06:42.000 And so if you're exploring that issue for real, then all the way you present it is going to change.

00:06:50.000 You're not going to be degrading human beings and degrading the audience by searching for clicks in that way.

00:06:56.000 And I'll give you just one example today.

00:06:58.000 I mean, Angel Fire is this beautiful short story by the extremely talented novelist and journalist Walter Kern.

00:07:06.000 And that's on the site in a beautiful, beautiful format.

00:07:10.000 This is the kind of thing that we're going to do.

00:07:12.000 And I'm just, I'm so happy to actually be doing it, right?

00:07:18.000 Because fortunately, there's not a lot of other outlets who are.

00:07:23.000 Yeah.

00:07:23.000 And so it's this amazing opportunity because on the left, there is no, there are no lack of, you know, the Atlantic Vox media that try to get into some of this.

00:07:33.000 But because of their value system, despite the talent, they end up having actually really high IQ writers and people that are publishing that actually end up saying really ugly things.

00:07:46.000 And it's really a tragedy, right?

00:07:47.000 I mean, sometimes I'll read the New York Times and just from their diction to their syntax to how they're able to form arguments, it's actually, you could tell they have talent, but their value system prevents them from actually pursuing things that are good, true, and beautiful.

00:08:03.000 This is the built-in institutional advantage of the right, which is that we can go wherever the truth leads us.

00:08:12.000 We don't have to pander to some sort of silly, fake, synthetic regime or kind of standard that is against the natural law.

00:08:21.000 Riff on that a little bit, Matt.

00:08:23.000 Yeah, no, absolutely.

00:08:25.000 And this is what's lacking.

00:08:26.000 I mean, what's lacking even on the right sometimes is this understanding you're articulating, which is that, you know, there is no identity that we need to wrap ourselves in, no like subgroup and clique.

00:08:38.000 We need to wrap.

00:08:39.000 What's true, good, and beautiful is always out there.

00:08:42.000 It reflects itself differently in different ages with different people and different eras when you pursue those things.

00:08:49.000 But you have to understand that what you're doing.

00:08:52.000 What's the goal?

00:08:53.000 What's the purpose?

00:08:54.000 And if the purpose is to uncover and expose the truth, and that's the guide, right?

00:08:59.000 The surest guide in this business, then all of a sudden you have a sort of natural defense all the time.

00:09:06.000 And, you know, the truth is sometimes ugly, but you have your purpose.

00:09:12.000 And that guides the rest of what you do.

00:09:15.000 And, you know, if you don't even understand, if you think in your little childish head that there's no such thing as truth, there's no such thing as goodness, you know, nothing's really good.

00:09:24.000 Everyone disagrees on what good and evil are, then you become a very uninteresting person.

00:09:31.000 And the sort of opinions you have are malleable.

00:09:33.000 We'll just change.

00:09:35.000 You know, if you don't really think, well, what is the truth?

00:09:37.000 You know, we sort of, then you don't have those principles.

00:09:41.000 You will end up making crap, even if you're talented.

00:09:44.000 And that's what you have a lot of now.

00:09:45.000 You have very talented people, as you said, who don't, they're not guided by a higher purpose.

00:09:50.000 Yes.

00:09:51.000 And you just can't, you can't get good stuff out of that.

00:09:56.000 It's like an equation.

00:09:57.000 The Greeks had a word telos for that.

00:09:59.000 Matt, in closing, how can people support the Blaze and become a member?

00:10:04.000 Hey, just go to theblaze.com.

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00:10:20.000 Matt, congratulations.

00:10:21.000 Come on again soon.

00:10:22.000 Thank you.

00:10:22.000 Thanks, Charlie.

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00:11:28.000 There is a chance that Mr. Johnson from Louisiana ends up getting more votes than Kevin McCarthy did.

00:11:35.000 Just based, the roll call is underway, and they're going around and the Democrats are screaming like children.

00:11:42.000 But just based on a little litmus test, based on the tribal leaders, elders, you could say, Gates, Gallagher, the moderates, the neocons, Gates on the Freedom Caucus wing, they're all behind Johnson.

00:11:54.000 We're not seeing any defections at all.

00:11:56.000 There might be some not present, but it looks as if Mike Johnson's going to become Speaker of the House.

00:12:02.000 And that is a major victory for the American grassroots and the conservative grassroots.

00:12:08.000 But it's important now that we have a legislative reset and have very specific goals and that it's not just a new speaker, but also business as usual is changed.

00:12:23.000 That's the most important thing.

00:12:25.000 We're not going to do this massive CR.

00:12:28.000 We're not going to just pile all this money into a continuing resolution.

00:12:32.000 And it's also rather remarkable, this historic deal, because typically there is a next man up type process.

00:12:43.000 So you get rid of McCarthy.

00:12:46.000 So you think, okay, it's going to be Scalise, or it's going to be Emmer, or it's going to be, was Mike Johnson a chairman of any committee?

00:12:54.000 I don't know.

00:12:54.000 Maybe he was.

00:12:55.000 Was he a chairman of any committee?

00:12:57.000 Certainly not of judiciary.

00:12:59.000 He was the vice chair of the Republican conference.

00:13:02.000 So that's like sixth or seventh in command.

00:13:07.000 That's hardly in charge of the whole deal.

00:13:11.000 And it's hilarious to me, just to be honest, that other guys that were so ambitious, that were so corrupt, that cut so many deals, that lived in D.C., that dreamed of having their speaker portrait, that the backbencher, who, by the way, he was a former radio guy, so my instinct was actually right.

00:13:32.000 Mike Johnson did host a radio show in Louisiana.

00:13:37.000 The guy that was just kind of there to fulfill the mandate of his voters, listen to his voters, kind of a policy wonk guy, and he just kind of waited, not even waited his turn.

00:13:48.000 If you would have told Mike Johnson in January, you're going to be Speaker of the House before the end of the calendar year, he'd say, what kind of mushrooms are you on?

00:14:01.000 Think about that.

00:14:02.000 I mean, it would be conceivable like, okay, maybe Emmer or maybe Scalise or maybe Stefanik or maybe any one of these people, maybe Jordan.

00:14:13.000 Mike Johnson?

00:14:15.000 In some ways, it's very similar in the American Civil War when a president comes in and just fires all the generals and then it's just kind of this colonel and he's like, you're up.

00:14:27.000 Start winning some battles.

00:14:28.000 Win us the war.

00:14:30.000 He's the least experienced speaker in 140 years.

00:14:35.000 That sounds very promising.

00:14:38.000 Some reporters are going up.

00:14:39.000 They say, what do you have to say for Mike Johnson's inexperience?

00:14:44.000 I think it's awesome.

00:14:46.000 I think his inexperience is a strategic advantage to get stuff done for the American people.

00:14:54.000 I think that his inexperience, as they call it, is going to give him a hand up.

00:15:03.000 It's a virtue.

00:15:05.000 So let me get this straight.

00:15:07.000 Mike Johnson doesn't have any favors that he has to repay.

00:15:10.000 Mike Johnson doesn't have any deals that he had to cut.

00:15:13.000 Mike Johnson doesn't have any looming blackmail that we know of from the intel agencies that will control him.

00:15:19.000 It is the closest to let's just open the phone book and pick somebody in the House of Representatives and see if this person can become speaker.

00:15:29.000 He's a super grassroots patriotic conservative who also has gone above and beyond to win friends, yes, both in the Democrat Conference and the Republican Conference on a human level.

00:15:42.000 And he didn't do it to try to like one day climb the ranks of the ladder.

00:15:47.000 He did it because, based on all accounts, he is a decent person.

00:15:52.000 He's measured.

00:15:54.000 He's methodical.

00:15:55.000 He's humble.

00:15:56.000 He's a gentleman.

00:15:58.000 And he's the closest thing to an accidental speaker that we will ever see in American history.

00:16:05.000 Someone who becomes Speaker of the House, it's typically a product of decades-long plotting, deceit, deals, favors, and it's a culmination of, not celebration of, hey, time to pay off the people who got you there.

00:16:23.000 He is the Brock Purdy of the Republican Party.

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00:16:40.000 Hey, everybody, Charlie Kirk here.

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00:17:43.000 Joining us now is Caroline Glick, Senior Contributing Editor at the Jewish News Syndicate and also host of the Caroline Glick Show.

00:17:52.000 Caroline, thank you so much for taking the time.

00:17:54.000 My first question is, I know you wrote a whole piece on this.

00:17:57.000 Why do you believe that Israel has not yet invaded Gaza now that we are coming on three weeks post the massacre in Israel?

00:18:06.000 I think the main reason is operational, that we wanted to get all of our ducks lined up and we want to soften the targets more because Hamas's fighters are almost all in this warren of underground tunnels.

00:18:20.000 There are about 500 kilometers of tunnels underneath the ground in Gaza.

00:18:24.000 Some of them take hundreds of meters before they go horizontal.

00:18:29.000 And so the aerial bombing needs to penetrate that complex because we need these people to come aground.

00:18:36.000 That's also the importance of the siege on Gaza so that they can't be resupplied with fuel and with water and electricity so that they become exhausted and they have to come aground because the Hamas terrorists have a decisive advantage operationally when they're inside of their tunnels.

00:18:54.000 And the way that Israel prevents a bloodbath of our forces is by besieging Gaza and by having the kind of bunker buster bombs we require in order to penetrate into the tunnel complex and destroy it in the ground to bring as many of them up so that we can defeat them.

00:19:12.000 So there's a new narrative that the media is pushing that Israel might not actually invade because of international support or other questions.

00:19:21.000 Do you see evidence of that?

00:19:22.000 Or is this just a strategic measure twice cut once so that Hamas can be finished once and for all?

00:19:29.000 Well, we certainly want to avoid a bloodbath of our soldiers and we want to win.

00:19:34.000 Prime Minister Netanyahu just gave a speech just five minutes ago it ended.

00:19:40.000 So in his announcement, he said that the ground invasion is going to happen.

00:19:47.000 He refused to say when it was going to happen.

00:19:49.000 He obviously didn't want to alert Hamas ahead of time.

00:19:52.000 But he said that obviously he said that we cannot, that of course we're going in, that there is going to be a ground invasion, and that it's just a matter of our operational considerations.

00:20:05.000 There are other considerations, of course, the Wall Street Journal reporting today that President Biden convinced Israel to delay again before it had to delay because Biden announced that he was coming.

00:20:18.000 And then it had to delay because Biden insisted that we allow resupply of Hamas.

00:20:25.000 That is, don't besiege Gaza under the label humanitarian assistance.

00:20:30.000 But since Hamas controls every square centimeter of Gaza, anything that goes into Gaza goes to Hamas and then they can give it out as they wish.

00:20:40.000 Gazans are saying that some of the humanitarian assistance is now being sold at a profit in Gaza's market.

00:20:49.000 So they're gouging prices.

00:20:51.000 There is no humanitarian assistance getting anywhere.

00:20:54.000 And then the other thing that he's done is he, so he did the humanitarian assistance.

00:20:59.000 And according to the Wall Street Journal, now he's saying don't go in until we reinforce our positions in the Middle East.

00:21:06.000 And then the Axios publication online said that President Biden, despite full-throated support for Israel and his right to strike Hamas, has methodically and meticulously delayed the expected invasion of Gaza, U.S. officials tell us.

00:21:18.000 So here, too, you have a confirmation from U.S. officials speaking to Axios that this has been their intent.

00:21:25.000 All the same, Israel has its own operational considerations.

00:21:28.000 So I think part of it is as well as international pressure.

00:21:33.000 And insofar as that's concerned, I think it's becoming more and more clear to Israelis that there is no international support for Israeli victory.

00:21:42.000 I mean, there's lip service, but you hear the hectoring from Biden already at the outset where he said we have a right to defeat them.

00:21:42.000 Not really.

00:21:52.000 We should defeat them.

00:21:53.000 They're worse than ISIS, he said.

00:21:55.000 But then he started hectoring us about international law when it has absolutely no relevance to anything that Israel does.

00:22:02.000 Israel always abides by international law in its operations.

00:22:05.000 But they keep bringing it up as a means to hector Israel and to undermine the legitimacy of what Israel has to do, which is to annihilate Hamas completely.

00:22:19.000 Yes, essentially, from the face of the earth.

00:22:22.000 And they should be.

00:22:22.000 Every single one of them should be killed and hunted down, every single one.

00:22:25.000 So, Caroline, I have strong opinions on this, and I'm just wondering, kind of from an Israeli perspective, are you starting to feel as if Joe Biden is undermining the Israeli effort or at least talking out of both sides of his mouth?

00:22:38.000 I certainly feel that way.

00:22:40.000 I'm no fan of Joe Biden, but I'm seeing, for example, he hosted like this, this comfort room for Muslim extremists in the White House the other day saying, don't worry, you know, everything's going to be fine.

00:22:51.000 And you and I both know that the quote-unquote humanitarian aid is held hostage.

00:22:55.000 They literally hold it hostage of their citizens and or some of that can be converted into weaponry, piping being one, right?

00:23:01.000 They can turn those into pipe bombs and other things.

00:23:04.000 So is it a growing opinion?

00:23:07.000 And if not, feel free to push back that Joe Biden is undermining Israel's ability to go after Hamas now that we're three weeks in?

00:23:15.000 I think that there's a growing sense of unease about the American position.

00:23:20.000 You know, initially, Israelis were very relieved to hear the outpouring of support from Biden and were willing to overlook the glaring problems with a lot of what he was saying, particularly the hectoring all the time about international law and this, you know, don't allow your passions to get the worst of you.

00:23:36.000 I mean, nobody ever said that to the Americans when after 9/11 or any other thing.

00:23:41.000 So, you know, it's all very obviously hypocritical, but also it's starting to feel like a pattern.

00:23:50.000 And so, Israelis were very relieved to hear his supportive words.

00:23:57.000 But again, you know, there's this sense, and also they're doing like this Nazi-type selection among the hostages.

00:24:03.000 There are 222 hostages being held in Gaza.

00:24:07.000 Some of them, all of them are Israeli, I think, and some of them are dual citizens of the United States, of Russia, of France, and of other countries, Britain.

00:24:16.000 And so, they were saying that they would let out people with dual citizenship.

00:24:21.000 So, and it's a pernicious thing, right?

00:24:24.000 Because you're saying that Jews who are only Israeli are going to stay in there, and Jews who also have other citizenships may be released.

00:24:36.000 And so, that's also exceedingly hostile.

00:24:40.000 And Israelis are feeling revolted by that.

00:24:44.000 So, there's a lot of sense of impending dread that Biden is acting out of, you know, speaking out of both sides of his mouth.

00:24:53.000 The humanitarian assistance, such as it is to Gaza, is exceedingly unpopular in Israel.

00:25:00.000 The public is almost universally opposed to it.

00:25:05.000 And the government is really treading on thin ice in terms of public tolerance for any of these efforts to satisfy American demands at our expense, because the Israeli people have a very rare but very, very deep sense of unanimous consent that we have to obliterate Hamas.

00:25:27.000 And the more of these videos that people start to see, the more steeled our will becomes because it's obvious.

00:25:35.000 I mean, we simply cannot continue to occupy this planet with Hamas living at our doorstep.

00:25:44.000 It just, it's not going to happen.

00:25:45.000 This is an existential threat.

00:25:46.000 And Netanyahu said that this evening.

00:25:49.000 He said he recognizes that his job is to save Israel from destruction because this is an existential threat.

00:25:56.000 What we saw was not somebody expressing a political opinion.

00:26:00.000 It was somebody enacting a genocide.

00:26:03.000 Yes.

00:26:04.000 That their plan, as they write in their covenant, is to annihilate the Jewish people.

00:26:08.000 That's their pledge.

00:26:10.000 And that's what they live by.

00:26:12.000 Their creed is murder.

00:26:12.000 That's their creed.

00:26:13.000 Their creed is mass murder.

00:26:15.000 Their creed is slaughter.

00:26:16.000 They slaughtered their victims like animals, even worse.

00:26:20.000 And we've never seen this kind of bestiality before.

00:26:24.000 I mean, we have, but I hate to be graphic, but the laws of halal, they actually treat the animals better when they kill them than they treated the Jews before they killed them two and a half weeks ago.

00:26:36.000 They treat animals better than that.

00:26:38.000 So, Caroline, just yeah, please go ahead.

00:26:41.000 No, I was just going to say, you know, we've seen, we've had Jews slaughtered in this way over the years in individual terrorist attacks, families slaughtered like this, young women slaughtered like this.

00:26:51.000 But they did this to 1,400 people in one day in the single largest day of killing Jews since the Holocaust and a Holocaust level of murder for a day.

00:27:01.000 And so, you know, that's had a shattering impact on the soul of this nation.

00:27:06.000 And so anybody who's trying in any way to undermine a war effort and any acceptance of that undermining by the government is unacceptable to the people of Israel.

00:27:18.000 I just want to ask, I have full faith that the IDF will be able to defeat Hamas, but then what?

00:27:23.000 What do you recommend from a policy perspective?

00:27:25.000 What comes next?

00:27:26.000 That seems to be a primary concern of quote-unquote international communities in the media.

00:27:31.000 You've thought through this rather comprehensively.

00:27:34.000 What is your answer to that?

00:27:36.000 Well, the Palestinians simply cannot be trusted with territory.

00:27:39.000 I mean, I think that's very clear.

00:27:40.000 The Palestinian Authority in Judea and Samaria that everybody wants to give a state to, they joined the jihad officially on Friday.

00:27:46.000 They gave guidance to their preachers in their mosques saying, We want you to call for the Palestinians of Judea and Samaria who live under the authority of the Palestinian Authority of the PLO to join the jihad against the Jews.

00:27:59.000 So, you know, they're not hiding this.

00:28:02.000 And the Biden administration simply doesn't want to see it because they don't want to accept the fact that Israel must win.

00:28:09.000 But Israel has to win.

00:28:11.000 And we can have some local governments and such, but no more of this.

00:28:15.000 Israel is the only power that can be trusted with any security control over any of these areas ever again.

00:28:22.000 Caroline Glick, I want people to check out your book, The Israeli Solution: A One State Plan for Peace in the Middle East.

00:28:28.000 Caroline, we're going to have you back on soon.

00:28:30.000 It's a breaking news day with a lot happening.

00:28:31.000 Anything you'd like to plug in closing here to our audience?

00:28:34.000 Well, I just suggest, you know, I had a great interview just now with Victor Davis Hansen on the Carolyn Glick show, and I suggest that people check it out.

00:28:40.000 You can read all of my work on CarolynGlick.com and also at jns.org.

00:28:45.000 Thank you so much, Caroline.

00:28:47.000 Admire your scholarship, and we need the clarity right now because there's a lot of confusion and the amount of Jew hatred happening.

00:28:53.000 And also, God bless you.

00:28:55.000 Thank you.

00:28:55.000 God bless you, Charlie.

00:28:56.000 I remember I met you at the embassy opening here in Jerusalem some years ago.

00:29:00.000 That was a happy day, and I hope to welcome you back in Israel again on another day of joy like that.

00:29:05.000 Thank you.

00:29:06.000 Yeah, it's going to be a season of fighting and a season of heaviness, as it says in Ecclesiastes.

00:29:11.000 But we'll have that season of joy again.

00:29:13.000 Caroline, thank you so much for the kind words.

00:29:15.000 Thank you.

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00:30:15.000 Mike Johnson is going to be Speaker of the House.

00:30:17.000 He is Speaker of the House, elected as U.S. House Speaker.

00:30:20.000 Excellent question here from Jacob Charlie.

00:30:22.000 Good morning from Phoenix.

00:30:23.000 How did this happen?

00:30:24.000 24 hours ago, we had a speaker elect Emmer defeating Johnson behind closed doors.

00:30:29.000 It didn't make it to the floor.

00:30:30.000 And now we have Mike Johnson.

00:30:31.000 Too good to be true question.

00:30:32.000 Why the massive poll shift overnight?

00:30:33.000 Am I really believe this is down to the grassroots, bringing the pressure on him?

00:30:36.000 Are we back to backdoor deals being made?

00:30:38.000 I'm here to actually give you some great news.

00:30:40.000 It's a mixture.

00:30:41.000 Emmer was next in line, next man in line, and he was the last of the next in line.

00:30:45.000 Think about it.

00:30:47.000 Go next in line, next in line, next in line.

00:30:50.000 You go Emmer, nope.

00:30:53.000 You go Jordan?

00:30:55.000 Nope.

00:30:56.000 You go Scalise?

00:30:57.000 Nope.

00:30:58.000 And Donald Trump played a huge role in this.

00:31:00.000 Donald Trump came out and savaged Emmer.

00:31:02.000 Boom, done.

00:31:03.000 Within minutes, Emmer was just over.

00:31:05.000 There was no way forward.

00:31:06.000 Our show went after Emmer.

00:31:08.000 Emmer was just done.

00:31:08.000 He left the room.

00:31:09.000 He said, I've had enough.

00:31:11.000 And the story of Mike Johnson feels very similar to the story of Tyson Badent or Badgent.

00:31:19.000 You might say, who is that?

00:31:21.000 Tyson Badgent was a Division II quarterback.

00:31:25.000 So understand how Division II works.

00:31:27.000 It's way, I mean, it's just such a different level.

00:31:30.000 Undrafted free agent happens to get signed by the Chicago Bears.

00:31:35.000 The Chicago Bears are terrible this year.

00:31:36.000 They're awful.

00:31:37.000 And so Justin Fields gets hurt, and the backup player. You know, gets hurt.

00:31:42.000 A year ago, Tyson Badgent was playing in front of 2,200 people.

00:31:47.000 And this last Sunday, Tyson Badgent, who never would have dreamed he would be a starting NFL quarterback, started for the Chicago Bears and beat the Las Vegas Raiders by 20 points.

00:31:59.000 He was playing against the Colorado School of Mines.

00:32:01.000 He played for a school I've never heard of, and I've heard of almost every school.

00:32:04.000 I do this for a living, Shepard University.

00:32:08.000 And now he is going to get a prime time start, most likely.

00:32:12.000 A start in prime time on Sunday night football, the biggest of all stage.

00:32:17.000 And boy, is that not the story of Mike Johnson.

00:32:20.000 Mike Johnson was playing Division II football.

00:32:23.000 Mike Johnson was backbenching it, just enjoying his life, doing legislative and policy type, you know, contributions, holding hearings.

00:32:33.000 He had no ambitions to be Speaker of the House, Patrick Mahomes, whatever analogy you want.

00:32:38.000 But sometimes your number is called.

00:32:41.000 They're attacking Mike Johnson in the media for being an election denier.

00:32:45.000 Great.

00:32:46.000 Threat to democracy.

00:32:47.000 Great.

00:32:48.000 But do you know what else they're also attacking him for?

00:32:51.000 They're attacking Mike Johnson for being woefully inexperienced, which I think is awesome.

00:32:59.000 Bill Crystal, the war-mongering neoconservative, has just tweeted out, FYI, Mike Johnson gets an F on the report card for Ukraine.

00:33:10.000 Somebody wake me up.

00:33:11.000 Am I dreaming?

00:33:12.000 Do we have a Speaker of the House that gets a failing grade on Ukraine?

00:33:16.000 Yes.

00:33:17.000 That right there is the now bankrupt Weekly Standards endorsement of Mike Johnson.

00:33:24.000 He gets a very poor F grade when it comes to sending money to foreign pimps in t-shirts while our own border falls apart.

00:33:34.000 All the right people hate him, and he never wanted to be Speaker.

00:33:39.000 He never dreamed of being Speaker.

00:33:41.000 He didn't go to the Chamber of Commerce luncheons and collect business cards of people he could get $2,800 contributions from.

00:33:48.000 He didn't go and travel to the Aspen fundraisers in Kenny Bunkport or Sun Valley to go to Martha's Vineyard and hang around the $1,000 bottle of wine crowd.

00:34:00.000 He didn't go to Silicon Valley and win favors over the people that are the oligarchs or the masters of the universe.

00:34:08.000 The best leaders are often those who did not want the job.

00:34:13.000 George Washington was like that.

00:34:14.000 The Order of Cincinnatus was built on that entire idea.

00:34:18.000 Go, do the job and go home.

00:34:20.000 Mike Johnson is a servant leader.

00:34:23.000 Mike Johnson is begrudgingly becoming Speaker of the House.

00:34:27.000 He'll embrace it with great honor and great weight and great heaviness.

00:34:32.000 Adam Kinzinger is losing his mind on Twitter right now.

00:34:35.000 Losing his mind.

00:34:37.000 Adam Kinzinger, you forgot he led the lawsuit against the election and sparked the whole thing.

00:34:42.000 Losing his mind like a child on Twitter.

00:34:46.000 Mike Johnson is becoming a reluctant hero, and he will let us down on certain things.

00:34:50.000 We don't control every part of Congress, but he will start to change business as usual.

00:34:55.000 And Mike Johnson is not someone that is now Speaker because he always wanted the portrait.

00:35:00.000 I always dreamt of having the Speaker's portrait.

00:35:03.000 That I will be in charge of the House.

00:35:05.000 Mike Johnson kind of wakes up one day.

00:35:06.000 He's like, I'm Speaker.

00:35:08.000 Cool.

00:35:10.000 So let's start to change some things around here.

00:35:13.000 This has the potential to be great.

00:35:16.000 I'm not guaranteeing that it will.

00:35:18.000 This has the potential to be historic.

00:35:20.000 And we can finally change some things in DC because you have a speaker of the house that was the equivalent of a Division II quarterback that stumbled into prime time.

00:35:30.000 And we are behind you, Mr. Mike Johnson, Speaker of the House.

00:35:33.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:35:35.000 Email us as always freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:35:38.000 Thanks so much for listening and God bless.

00:35:43.000 For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to CharlieKirk.com.

The Charlie Kirk Show - October 25, 2023

MAGA Mike Takes the Gavel with Matthew Peterson and Caroline Glick

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