The Charlie Kirk Show - MAGA, Season Two with Ric Grenell

00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, it's MAGA season two.

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00:01:32.000 MAGA season two.

00:01:34.000 What does that mean?

00:01:35.000 Well, MAGA season one were big rallies, tens of thousands of people.

00:01:41.000 But in the last couple of weeks, I've started to see some examples of something I've been pushing for for quite some time that is just making me so excited.

00:01:50.000 I see the opportunity.

00:01:51.000 I'm sorry.

00:01:52.000 The marketer in me is saying this, this, this is a whole new wrinkle.

00:02:00.000 If season one was the big grand entrances of 30,000 people, season two should be the exact opposite.

00:02:07.000 It should be Trump in living rooms, Trump at McDonald's, Trump in diners, Trump talking to people one-on-one.

00:02:13.000 I've said this for quite some time, and Rick Grinnell will agree in just a second when we bring him in, that when you get in a room with Donald Trump, it is magical.

00:02:24.000 You could walk into the room.

00:02:25.000 I've had people, donors, that tell me when they're walking in the room. 0.65

00:02:28.000 I hate the guy. 1.00

00:02:28.000 He's awful. 1.00

00:02:29.000 He's terrible. 0.97

00:02:29.000 And I don't even know why I'm here and why I'm getting a picture and I donated to the RNC and I don't even want a picture. 0.97

00:02:34.000 And boom, as soon as he walks into the room after, like, wow, that guy's great.

00:02:37.000 It's like all the bad memories just disappeared.

00:02:40.000 Like, just washes away.

00:02:43.000 When he walks into a room, he commands the presence.

00:02:46.000 Just a little taste here.

00:02:46.000 And then we'll have Rick Grinnell as I'm trying to make the argument that we need something a little bit new.

00:02:51.000 And I think it's right there in front of us.

00:02:54.000 It just can't be the same rallies back and forth.

00:02:56.000 No, no, no.

00:02:57.000 Deploy the best asset you have, which is the marketer himself, who's fabulous with people.

00:03:04.000 He loves people.

00:03:05.000 Let's play Cut 95, Donald Trump telling the McDonald's workers, I know this menu better than you guys.

00:03:11.000 Play Cut 95.

00:03:12.000 What's your specialty today?

00:03:15.000 Nice to meet you.

00:03:17.000 Hello, everybody.

00:03:18.000 That's a nice, beautiful looking group of people.

00:03:21.000 So I know this menu better than you do.

00:03:23.000 I do.

00:03:24.000 I probably know it better than anybody in here.

00:03:27.000 We're going to take care of the fire department.

00:03:29.000 Okay.

00:03:30.000 We're going to take care of the police department.

00:03:32.000 If we're going to be trying to win back the White House, it's got to be a new wrinkle, a new approach.

00:03:37.000 And I think this is where he's at his best.

00:03:38.000 Rick Rinnell is here.

00:03:39.000 He knows the president very well.

00:03:40.000 Rick, welcome back to the program.

00:03:42.000 What do you think, MAGA season two?

00:03:43.000 Are we seeing something here?

00:03:45.000 I think the pilot has passed with amazing approval.

00:03:49.000 Your thoughts.

00:03:50.000 And look, the premiere of season two yesterday was lit.

00:03:54.000 If you didn't watch it, you better go get it because it was pretty amazing.

00:03:58.000 Charlie, I think you are exactly right.

00:04:00.000 You know the president well.

00:04:02.000 You know the team well.

00:04:03.000 You know the strategy.

00:04:04.000 And the huge crowds are one thing.

00:04:07.000 But Donald Trump is a real person.

00:04:09.000 He's not a robotic politician.

00:04:11.000 He's not from DC.

00:04:13.000 He doesn't act like DC.

00:04:14.000 He literally is a real person who has human feelings.

00:04:20.000 This could be the biggest scam that the media have ever put out, which is trying to pretend like Donald Trump is something that he's not, trying to make him into a Russian asset, trying to make him into a mean-spirited guy.

00:04:35.000 And he is just a funny, real guy with big ideas about America, wanting to be proud of America again and bring it back to its roots.

00:04:45.000 I think that you're right.

00:04:48.000 If we can show Donald Trump on the human side and really show him in his element, you're right.

00:04:58.000 I've seen the exact same thing where people come in very magical and say, wow, he's really electric.

00:05:06.000 So I think you're right.

00:05:07.000 And I think you're onto the strategy.

00:05:08.000 He commands a presence.

00:05:10.000 And by the way, it will then demand whoever he ends up running against, whether it be Newsom or Biden, they have no presence when they walk into a room.

00:05:18.000 And, you know, Rick, one of them.

00:05:20.000 They're robotic.

00:05:20.000 No, they're robotic.

00:05:21.000 They're synthetic.

00:05:22.000 And Pete Buttigieg certainly is.

00:05:24.000 We'll talk about that in a second.

00:05:25.000 But I just want to, one of the best moments of the Trump administration, you remember this.

00:05:30.000 And, you know, I had plenty of battles with some of the people in the White House to get them to think creatively.

00:05:34.000 And I know you did too, Rick, as well, which is, remember when the boy came to mow the lawn and Trump comes out?

00:05:41.000 That was one of the most viral human moments.

00:05:44.000 And I said, every week, there should just be someone who's a teenager that had some sort of, you know, issue starting a lemonade stand, and you could just have that.

00:05:53.000 Trump is amazing with those people.

00:05:55.000 Or when he did the job fair and he takes up the Louisville slugger and he says, boy, this is kind of nice.

00:06:00.000 And I feel as if, you know, COVID was obviously a surprise to a lot of people.

00:06:06.000 It almost made it where that kind of retail politics in 2020 was harder to do.

00:06:10.000 You had to almost do kind of these teletown halls and these rallies.

00:06:13.000 But now we're looking about winning.

00:06:15.000 We want to win.

00:06:16.000 And the response I've received from even people who hate Donald Trump is like, wow, I mean, if this is what he's going to be doing, going into real places, talking to real people, improv, impromptu, not reading a teleprompter, it's a whole new dimension.

00:06:28.000 Look, you're so right because it's not even politics.

00:06:32.000 It's just reminding people of the great spirit of America, right?

00:06:36.000 Hard work, young people mowing the lawns, doing newspaper deliveries, or whatever the technology allows today.

00:06:43.000 Look, I got, you know, my godson is traveling around the neighborhood washing trash cans.

00:06:52.000 And he was under so much demand to have people wash the trash cans that he raised the price.

00:06:59.000 We taught him how to raise the price and said, you know, you got to do a faster job.

00:07:04.000 You're getting the trash can's trash cans way too clean.

00:07:07.000 Don't spend so much time on it.

00:07:10.000 Raise your prices.

00:07:11.000 This is America.

00:07:12.000 This is how you teach kids hard work.

00:07:14.000 This is how you teach kids ethics and morality and truthfulness and transparency.

00:07:21.000 And I think that this is what Donald Trump is really good at: reminding people that America is a beacon of capitalism.

00:07:30.000 Hard work is what gets you ahead.

00:07:33.000 And when he's around people who work hard, they feel it.

00:07:37.000 They feel the compliment.

00:07:38.000 They feel that he is somebody who respects their hard work.

00:07:43.000 And that's what we have to get back to.

00:07:44.000 It seems like over the last decade, we've had this whole government system that all they're trying to do is highlight the people that are getting around the rules or want freebies.

00:07:55.000 And they've lost the hard ethical messaging that America used to stand on the top of the mountain and scream to the rest of the world.

00:08:06.000 And we got to get back to that because I'll finish with this, Charlie.

00:08:09.000 You've heard me say this before.

00:08:11.000 But I think that our American diplomats should be pushing the idea of America around the world.

00:08:18.000 Because when America puts itself first, the rule of law is first.

00:08:23.000 Capitalism is first.

00:08:25.000 The respect for human rights are first.

00:08:27.000 We are not a conquering nation.

00:08:28.000 We are a nation that helps free people.

00:08:31.000 That messaging makes the rest of the world safer and more secure and more prosperous.

00:08:38.000 America first is good for the world, and our diplomats need to be articulating that.

00:08:42.000 Pete Buttigieg is in East Palestine.

00:08:46.000 And just watching him walk around and interact, the contrast.

00:08:50.000 I mean, again, Pete Buttigieg is if chat GPT was ever uploaded into a human being, it's Pete Buttigieg.

00:08:59.000 And then Don Jr. said yesterday that he was selected only because he's gay and you defended Don.

00:09:06.000 Explain. 0.94

00:09:07.000 Oh, everybody knows that he was selected because he's gay. 0.57

00:09:10.000 Look, this is a Biden administration like the Obama administration, which announced someone's sexuality as they're being hired. 0.76

00:09:19.000 And, you know, I once had, we'll get into this.

00:09:21.000 I'll tell this quick story when we come back.

00:09:23.000 But the reality is, is that the Biden administration and the Obama administration, Democrats like to emphasize it.

00:09:30.000 I think it's offensive.

00:09:31.000 I think it's shameful.

00:09:33.000 I think it's degrading to have your sexuality be the reason why you're hired and to be trumpeted out.

00:09:40.000 It's just not something that we should be doing in America.

00:09:43.000 We got to kill this idea that somehow this characteristics that are irrelevant about somebody are somehow the criteria for being hired.

00:09:52.000 Yeah, I mean, are you qualified?

00:09:56.000 Are you competent?

00:09:57.000 Pete Buttigieg is none of those things, period.

00:10:00.000 And it's really a disgrace because, you know, I think they're like, oh, transportation, whatever, it doesn't really matter.

00:10:06.000 Actually, you can't have a functioning or flourishing society if trains are being derailed and you're ignoring people and you can't get planes in the air and you put quote unquote equity over competency.

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00:10:57.000 So Pete Buttigeg is on the ground in East Palestine, Ohio.

00:11:01.000 And one of our Turning Point USA reporters, our journalist, Savannah Hernandez, tried to ask questions of Buttigeg.

00:11:07.000 And now Buttigieg's partner, Chaston, is coming out and attacking Turning Point USA.

00:11:13.000 Rick, this is a total mess.

00:11:15.000 And they do not want to take responsibility for their actions at all.

00:11:20.000 And I'm afraid this is a theme that we're just going to keep seeing of trying to have this sort of synthetic progress over competency.

00:11:31.000 Look, there's this game in Washington where if you saw Pete Buttigieg's press secretary, she says, hey, can you turn your cameras off?

00:11:39.000 And of course, a whole bunch of dutyful reporters turned them off, but Savannah didn't.

00:11:43.000 Good thing.

00:11:44.000 And she keeps asking, you know, I'm going to give you information.

00:11:47.000 I'm willing to give you information.

00:11:49.000 This is that Washington, D.C. trade.

00:11:52.000 But it has to have the cameras off.

00:11:53.000 I want to do this in secret.

00:11:55.000 I want to give you some information.

00:11:56.000 I want to spin you.

00:11:58.000 This is the game in Washington and every reporter follows it.

00:12:01.000 Thank God Savannah didn't, because honestly, what you have is an unwillingness on the part of Pete's team to not be transparent.

00:12:11.000 They want to be able to talk you out of your story and then if there's no record of it, deny it later.

00:12:19.000 We need to have transparency in Washington.

00:12:22.000 We need to demand transparency.

00:12:24.000 This is why I think Donald Trump really upset all of Washington, D.C. so much is because he was very transparent.

00:12:32.000 You saw what his actions were.

00:12:33.000 He told you what his motives were.

00:12:36.000 He would say it immediately on what he's going to do, and then he would follow through.

00:12:41.000 I want to go back to one point on Mayor Pete, Charlie, because there's this woke ideology within the media that somehow gays and lesbians are more represented by Biden or by Obama and by Democrats.

00:12:58.000 And one time an NBC reporter asked me how many gay people were working in the Trump administration.

00:13:05.000 And I said, I have no idea.

00:13:06.000 We don't keep lists.

00:13:08.000 We don't ask.

00:13:09.000 It's certainly not a criteria.

00:13:11.000 And this NBC reporter said, well, that's exactly the point because in the Obama administration, there were 3,000, whatever.

00:13:20.000 And I said, it's humiliating to me that you have a list.

00:13:24.000 Yeah, I think that's exactly right.

00:13:26.000 Yes.

00:13:27.000 It's offensive that somehow you're going to ask people and put them on a list.

00:13:31.000 We didn't care.

00:13:32.000 When I was appointed, DNI, Donald Trump had no idea.

00:13:36.000 He just made history.

00:13:37.000 He had no idea.

00:13:39.000 And we didn't talk about it.

00:13:40.000 It wasn't something that was part of the criteria or the reason for appointing me.

00:13:47.000 This is what he did all along.

00:13:49.000 He didn't care.

00:13:50.000 Donald Trump looks at whether or not you can do the job and then he hires accordingly.

00:13:57.000 So I think that it's really important that people understand, young people especially, that we're not keeping lists because we don't think it's a relevant characteristic.

00:14:07.000 And that is a higher moral ground than somehow keeping lists and having people that are completely unqualified, but because they are wearing women's clothes and they're really out front and they can go on bravo.

00:14:20.000 Somehow that that is, you know, representation matters is what they always say.

00:14:26.000 I think competency matters more than anything.

00:14:28.000 I mean, obviously, and the American people are totally on board for that.

00:14:31.000 And they're not going to put up with planes falling out of the sky, trains being derailed, our quality of life being eroded because of some sort of fake progress list that makes themselves feel good.

00:14:43.000 It doesn't do any good whatsoever, right?

00:14:46.000 And you said, look, Donald Trump's a real guy.

00:14:47.000 He says, okay, whatever.

00:14:49.000 I made history.

00:14:50.000 Okay.

00:14:50.000 But I put Rick because he's a strong American and he's a patriot and he's going to do a great job.

00:14:56.000 And Rick, I do think this is actually reaching a breaking point.

00:14:59.000 I think some people, you know, have the majority of Americans might have, let's just say, neutral or moderate social views on these things.

00:15:08.000 But at the same time, they say, I want a functioning country.

00:15:12.000 I do not want my civilization to fall apart so that some ideologue can have a list.

00:15:19.000 Look, I think I just want to say this at the forefront of this anti-woke gay agenda is the log cabin Republicans, conservatives who are literally trying to say, no, we don't want special rights. 0.78

00:15:33.000 We think that it's terrible when you're trying to talk to a kindergartner about sex when you're not their parent. 0.95

00:15:39.000 Don't be creepy.

00:15:40.000 We don't think that you should have under the age of 18, there should be rules or an allowance to let kids change their gender under 18. 1.00

00:15:52.000 We don't even let kids get captured.

00:15:54.000 It's so reprehensive.

00:15:55.000 It's outrageous.

00:15:56.000 And so I think you're right. 0.97

00:15:57.000 It's at the tipping point, but the gay conservatives are at the forefront of really pushing back against the gay. 0.97

00:16:02.000 I'm glad to hear that because it needs to be a broad-based coalition to repudiate this evil. 0.80

00:16:07.000 Period.

00:16:07.000 Hard stop.

00:16:08.000 You're not going to go after eight-year-olds.

00:16:10.000 Let kids be kids. 0.99

00:16:11.000 It's ridiculous. 0.93

00:16:12.000 Rick, thank you so much. 0.56

00:16:13.000 Appreciate your leave.

00:16:14.000 Good to see you.

00:16:14.000 All the best, Charlie.

00:16:15.000 Thank you.

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00:17:28.000 Okay, I just want to build this out a little bit more.

00:17:32.000 And we're receiving overwhelmingly positive response.

00:17:36.000 I've not seen, there's only one negative email I got, and it's actually not negative.

00:17:39.000 It's actually just a question, but it had some negative connotations to it where one person said, well, Charlie, you try to say Trump can't draw big crowds.

00:17:46.000 No, that's not what I'm saying.

00:17:47.000 We know he can draw big crowds.

00:17:48.000 He could do it immediately.

00:17:49.000 All he needs is a flag and a podium, and he can draw tens of thousands of people.

00:17:52.000 That has been proven.

00:17:53.000 There is no need to stress test that thesis any longer.

00:17:58.000 But my whole argument for MAGA season two is that I think the rallies, I know they're expensive.

00:18:03.000 I mean, they talk openly, the Trump campaign talked about how they spend millions of dollars, and they do, and they get it back in data, and they get it back in donations, but it's not cheap.

00:18:10.000 You got to have the press rise or you got to have security, you got to have fencing, you got to have the stage, got to have lighting, got to have the AV, got to have security.

00:18:16.000 It's a millions of dollars of operation.

00:18:18.000 And so what if I told you you could actually get more virality, a bigger bang for your buck for the impromptu, the improv Trump?

00:18:25.000 So you go down to the absolute micro.

00:18:27.000 So not just McDonald's and all that, but you just find a random MAGA mom in Georgia, in rural Georgia, and Trump just goes into her living room and you just bring a couple cameras.

00:18:37.000 You just guess the number.

00:18:38.000 Hey, what's going on?

00:18:40.000 Tell me what, are you, are you worried about your country?

00:18:45.000 And just a random person, just, I mean, you could vet it out a little bit, but you got to have a little bit of this.

00:18:50.000 No one's really expecting.

00:18:51.000 You could probably have like 20 potential homes.

00:18:53.000 Like, hey, someone might come by the president.

00:18:54.000 Oh, wow, it's amazing.

00:18:55.000 But you actually don't tell which one it is because the kind of the spontaneity, the off the cuff, and it creates more viral moments.

00:19:03.000 And again, with the rallies, the rallies just kind of feel the same at this point.

00:19:07.000 And I'm not, I mean, I'm not saying that I don't think in an overly negative way.

00:19:11.000 And based on the emails I'm receiving from all of you, you agree.

00:19:14.000 You're like, yeah, look, the rallies are just kind of the same sort of message.

00:19:17.000 And that's fine.

00:19:18.000 There's a place for rallies.

00:19:19.000 I don't think you should cancel them.

00:19:21.000 Remember, though, the mainstream media used to cover the rallies wall to wall.

00:19:24.000 It used to be total coverage.

00:19:26.000 But at this moment, again, this was my advice in the 2020 campaign, and I was ignored completely because they knew what they were doing.

00:19:33.000 And they told me that repeatedly.

00:19:34.000 I said Trump needs to be in the most natural environments time and time again with, you know, the just spontaneous, you got to be spontaneous.

00:19:44.000 Joe Biden is going little circles and he's quarantining.

00:19:47.000 You need to have Donald Trump be the regular man, go out, not be afraid.

00:19:51.000 And that really wasn't advice taken.

00:19:55.000 I mean, right, so here's a great example.

00:19:57.000 Something that Trump knows super well is that Donald Trump once a week should just go visit a construction work site.

00:20:02.000 He knows those really well and just ask questions.

00:20:05.000 How's the supply chain?

00:20:06.000 How are your wages?

00:20:07.000 How are your kids?

00:20:09.000 He literally worked job sites for 40 years.

00:20:13.000 He knows it better than anybody else.

00:20:15.000 And he'll be like, wow, okay, that's an interesting design.

00:20:17.000 What are you guys building here?

00:20:19.000 He could wearing a hard hat.

00:20:21.000 Not a big deal.

00:20:21.000 Joe Biden, are you kidding me?

00:20:22.000 He wouldn't know the first thing.

00:20:23.000 You put Joe Biden on a work site or a construction site.

00:20:27.000 He wouldn't know any of the vocabulary. 0.99

00:20:28.000 He'd make a fool of himself. 0.82

00:20:30.000 He wouldn't know asphalt from cement. 0.99

00:20:33.000 He wouldn't know anything.

00:20:35.000 And meanwhile, Donald Trump would come in.

00:20:38.000 He'd know the whole thing.

00:20:39.000 He'd look like a regular person.

00:20:40.000 By the way, those are his voters.

00:20:42.000 And the same could be to humanize him, to put him into the suburban mom's home.

00:20:48.000 Like, go find someone that is a registered Republican, might not be a huge Trump fan, and put Trump right into that environment, not CNN, not MSNBC.

00:20:58.000 And by the way, you don't let any of the opposition media in, okay?

00:21:01.000 You film it all yourself.

00:21:02.000 You live stream it on Real America's Voice.

00:21:04.000 You live stream it on all of our friendly networks, right?

00:21:07.000 And you have Donald Trump just have a dialogue with a registered Republican woman who's not sure about Trump.

00:21:12.000 He would win her over.

00:21:15.000 Like, tell me what's on your mind.

00:21:17.000 And she would say, like, oh, you know, I don't like your tone.

00:21:20.000 I think you're dividing the country.

00:21:21.000 And just let him have dialogue.

00:21:24.000 Look, the path to 2024 is going to be largely predicated on the machine that we build.

00:21:31.000 But the same sort of Trump strategy, I do not think is going to get us to the promised land, which is getting the White House back so we can fix our country, save our country.

00:21:41.000 You got to think creatively.

00:21:41.000 So what do you have to do?

00:21:43.000 And one of my biggest complaints about people in politics is they're so one-dimensional.

00:21:47.000 Some of them are incredibly corrupt because they make a bunch of money on the typical thing.

00:21:51.000 Consultants don't make a lot of money with Donald Trump going into living rooms or McDonald's.

00:21:55.000 They just don't.

00:21:56.000 You could get, by the way, Donald Trump just going and giving out water yesterday and going into the McDonald's, I think was hundreds of millions of dollars of free and earned media.

00:22:04.000 Let's just say tens of millions.

00:22:06.000 Let's just be conservative, okay?

00:22:07.000 You couldn't buy television ads in eastern Ohio or western Pennsylvania for what he got.

00:22:12.000 And what did he do?

00:22:13.000 He was just kind of joking around.

00:22:14.000 You have the billion dollar marketing machine right there.

00:22:19.000 You remember, I think, again, the media attacked him for it.

00:22:22.000 One of the moments that I think was so viral is when Donald Trump was throwing, he was shooting the toilet paper.

00:22:30.000 Remember that?

00:22:31.000 During the hurricane relief?

00:22:32.000 Like, oh, it's terrible.

00:22:33.000 People actually love this.

00:22:34.000 Like, oh, wow, he's actually kind of making fun of it.

00:22:36.000 The candid moments, the unscripted, the improv.

00:22:39.000 And here's the thing.

00:22:40.000 The people, some people around Trump, I know this because they push back on me.

00:22:44.000 They say, oh, no, no, it's too risky.

00:22:46.000 You're not going to win back the White House by sterilizing Donald Trump.

00:22:51.000 You got to let the beast out into the wild. 0.51

00:22:54.000 And he is.

00:22:55.000 He's a life force.

00:22:56.000 And I mean that.

00:22:57.000 The energy, the enthusiasm.

00:22:59.000 You got to stop this pre-scripted stuff.

00:23:03.000 Like, oh, it's just another rally and all this.

00:23:05.000 No, no, no.

00:23:05.000 Look, you got to play like you're 10 points down because guess what?

00:23:08.000 You're up against the FBI.

00:23:10.000 You're up against the Department of Justice.

00:23:12.000 Are you going to be a populist candidate or not?

00:23:14.000 And that's where he's at his best.

00:23:15.000 Yesterday, you couldn't stop watching the footage.

00:23:18.000 Wow.

00:23:19.000 Where has this been?

00:23:20.000 And by the way, many of you have said, I only tune into the rallies for the unscripted moments.

00:23:25.000 Then just do nothing but unscripted moments.

00:23:27.000 The one-liners.

00:23:30.000 Was Trump not amazing when he brought Chuck U. Schumer and Nancy Pelosi into the Oval Office and they had it out in front of the press pool on immigration?

00:23:39.000 It was one of Trump's best moments.

00:23:40.000 And Chuck Schumer was kind of his head down and submissive.

00:23:46.000 And so I think what we saw yesterday in East Palestine, Ohio, if I may submit my opinion to you, the jury, the audience, is not just more of this, but this should become the new modus operandi of the entire Trump 2024 campaign.

00:24:04.000 Spontaneity, originality, to where he's at his best.

00:24:08.000 And you could think of a million different ideas.

00:24:12.000 Instead of one MAGA rally at a time, MAGA, one house at a time.

00:24:15.000 I'm going to go into your living room.

00:24:17.000 Just be yourself.

00:24:19.000 He's so good on camera.

00:24:21.000 He ran the apprentice.

00:24:22.000 He knows how to market.

00:24:23.000 He's definitely not shy.

00:24:26.000 And it would become a almost, and this is what, again, not, hopefully they'll listen, right?

00:24:33.000 But what do I know?

00:24:34.000 I'm just a radio guy.

00:24:36.000 You need to produce a television show because that's what politics is.

00:24:40.000 If we're honest about ourselves, 2020, one of the reasons we fell short, obviously, you know, the nonsense, the ballots and all that garbage, but one of the reasons was that you tried to run Donald Trump in 2020 as a candidate.

00:24:52.000 One of the reasons Donald Trump was successful in 2016 was he ran it like a television show.

00:24:57.000 And guess what?

00:24:58.000 People ate it up when he went to Iowa.

00:25:01.000 Do you remember when I was there, when Donald Trump went to Iowa?

00:25:03.000 I was just curious.

00:25:04.000 I was much younger.

00:25:05.000 Donald Trump went to the Iowa caucus with a helicopter and everyone mocked him and he lands on the helicopter and he says, kids get free rides.

00:25:15.000 And kids are coming up and saying, are you Batman?

00:25:17.000 And millions and millions of views.

00:25:20.000 And parents are driving in trying to get their kid on Trump's helicopter.

00:25:26.000 Donald Trump should just go to a golden corral and just say, look, let's have a roundtable.

00:25:30.000 Not this obviously prescripted.

00:25:32.000 No, you got to lean in to the unpredictability.

00:25:37.000 It doesn't matter if they don't pass a background track.

00:25:39.000 It doesn't matter actually if you run it as somebody that hates you.

00:25:41.000 That's actually probably good.

00:25:43.000 They're just yelling at you.

00:25:44.000 They're mad.

00:25:45.000 And I'm like, wow, that person's pretty upset.

00:25:47.000 Like, he can handle it.

00:25:48.000 He's tough.

00:25:49.000 He's a New York City developer.

00:25:51.000 I think he can handle a heckler at Golden Corral.

00:25:53.000 Obviously, you have to make it secure and you got to make sure it's safe because that's a very real thing.

00:25:58.000 But that's, someone said, Charlie, it's not safe.

00:26:02.000 Okay.

00:26:02.000 I think our willingness of what is safe for presidents and former presidents has definitely been pushed to the limit.

00:26:10.000 Honestly, with Joe Biden taking a train to Kiev.

00:26:14.000 Just to be honest, I think that if Joe Biden can take a train to Kiev, I think that Donald Trump can go into a golden corral with a couple people getting wanded, making sure no one has weapons, and he walks in.

00:26:26.000 I see an opportunity here.

00:26:28.000 I have no idea if this is going to be taken up.

00:26:30.000 I've called, I've talked, I have conferred.

00:26:34.000 Big opportunity here to get people excited, look at it differently and new.

00:26:39.000 Season one was big and bold, tens of thousands of people.

00:26:41.000 Season two, personal and intimate, compassionate, spontaneous, full of improvisation.

00:26:47.000 I love your thoughts.

00:26:48.000 What do you think about all this?

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00:27:55.000 Welcome back, everybody.

00:27:56.000 I want to play some pieces of tape yesterday so you guys can see it.

00:27:59.000 Maybe you saw it, maybe you didn't.

00:28:00.000 The media was largely ignoring it.

00:28:01.000 And then I want to hear, I want you to play.

00:28:02.000 This is the morning, Joe.

00:28:03.000 He's such a joke.

00:28:04.000 But what his response was to this.

00:28:06.000 They just got really angry that Trump actually went to go listen and help the people of East Palestine.

00:28:14.000 Play cut 86.

00:28:16.000 Most of it, some of it, we had to go to a much lesser quality water.

00:28:23.000 You want to get those Trump bottles, I think, more than anybody else.

00:28:25.000 But we're bringing a lot of water, thousands of bottles, and we have it in trucks.

00:28:28.000 And we brought some on my plane today.

00:28:31.000 But to that end, I'm pleased to announce that we've helped coordinate the delivery of the water and bottled water as well as the tractor trail is full of it.

00:28:40.000 We have big tractor trailers full of water.

00:28:42.000 I think you're going to have plenty of water for a long time, maybe.

00:28:45.000 Now, I got to tell you, I'm very impressed by how angry Joe Scarborough is able to get between 6 a.m. and 9 a.m.

00:28:54.000 Like, I'm still just trying to figure out my bearings at this time, but this guy at like 7 a.m. Eastern is like his default setting is bitterness.

00:29:06.000 And I really don't think he's a happy person because every time I see a clip of him, it's just scornful condemnation of anything that is not a robotic, technocratic, neoliberal.

00:29:20.000 Joe Scarborough, just really just an angry person for 7 a.m., play cut 87. 0.94

00:29:25.000 The guy's just so gross. 0.98

00:29:26.000 He really is. 0.99

00:29:27.000 I mean, talking about Trump water, branded Trump water. 0.99

00:29:31.000 And by the way, he's such a hypocrite, too, talking about attacking Joe Biden while Joe Biden is going, you know, risking his life fighting for Western democracy, something he doesn't give a damn about. 0.99

00:29:43.000 Something, you know, when you have a guy that talks about suspending the Constitution, it's just absolutely insane. 0.99

00:29:51.000 So that was risking his life, like Hillary Clinton dodging sniper fire or Brian Williams almost being swept away by a hurricane.

00:30:02.000 Admittedly, him going to Kyiv took a spine.

00:30:05.000 Okay, that was something.

00:30:07.000 But risking his life, he called Putin ahead of time.

00:30:09.000 Putin wasn't going to do that.

00:30:11.000 Let's just take a step back.

00:30:13.000 Okay. 0.98

00:30:14.000 That is ridiculous. 0.96

00:30:16.000 Was it notable? 0.97

00:30:18.000 I'll acknowledge that.

00:30:19.000 That's notable.

00:30:19.000 That's a thing.

00:30:20.000 Okay.

00:30:20.000 To take a train to go to Kyiv and surprise, risking your life.

00:30:26.000 How significant do you think the military presence was around Joe Biden's train ride there?

00:30:32.000 People say he took a train.

00:30:34.000 I think that's the current narrative there.

00:30:36.000 So now Pete Buttigej is being asked questions in East Palestine, Ohio by our Turning Point USA reporters, and it's really bothering them because the regime media isn't just kind of saying, hey, Pete Budajej, please tell us about your deepest feelings of East Palestine.

00:30:52.000 Tell us how great you are.

00:30:54.000 No, actually, he's getting real questions and it really irritates him.

00:30:57.000 Savannah Hernandez from Turning Point USA, educational journalist right on the ground here, just asking Pete Buttigieg, and they said she's being too aggressive.

00:31:04.000 Yeah, you're not allowed to do that. 0.98

00:31:05.000 They're used to CNN.

00:31:07.000 Play cut 91.

00:31:08.000 So, can we ask why it took him almost three weeks to get here?

00:31:13.000 I'm sorry, I don't want to do this on camera.

00:31:15.000 Well, if you're the press secretary of the Secretary of the Department of Transportation, don't you think you should be able to ask questions from the American public?

00:31:23.000 Absolutely.

00:31:23.000 Certainly, I would like to do it without the camera on.

00:31:25.000 Can I ask why?

00:31:25.000 I think that is a little bit aggressive.

00:31:27.000 That's why it's not.

00:31:28.000 Why is it aggressive?

00:31:31.000 It's too aggressive.

00:31:32.000 These people have never been challenged.

00:31:35.000 I'm very proud of Turning Point USA.

00:31:37.000 People that you guys support Turning Point USA, that's one of our best.

00:31:40.000 Savannah Hernandez, part of our Frontlines project.

00:31:42.000 We've got a lot of different projects going on at Turning Point USA, and this is what I'm so proud of, where the whole mission of frontlines is just to tell the truth.

00:31:49.000 Go find powerful people and ask them questions.

00:31:52.000 That's it.

00:31:53.000 There's no political agenda.

00:31:54.000 There's no ideological agenda.

00:31:55.000 Just go find powerful people and ask them questions.

00:31:58.000 And the press secretary says, can you turn off the cameras?

00:32:01.000 Can you turn off the cameras?

00:32:02.000 I'm happy to explain it to you as long as no one knows.

00:32:05.000 It's a little aggressive for me.

00:32:08.000 And then, of course, I was just counting the minutes.

00:32:11.000 I said, how long until they attack Turning Point USA?

00:32:13.000 Because now they're starting to learn that Turning Point USA is deploying energetic, very disciplined young journalists to the front lines, and that freaks them out.

00:32:24.000 So Chaston, the partner, the husband of Pete Budajej, comes out and starts attacking Turning Point USA as disinformation artists.

00:32:37.000 Like, okay, pal, you're trying to say we're disinformation artists?

00:32:41.000 We're the one asking Pete your partner questions.

00:32:46.000 That's all we're doing.

00:32:47.000 And you can't, it's a little aggressive for me.

00:32:48.000 Turn off the cameras.

00:32:49.000 No agenda.

00:32:50.000 We're just going to ask powerful people questions.

00:32:53.000 And by the way, that's just one of many clips that are now going viral because, and all the rest of the media, they're so obedient.

00:32:58.000 They do whatever Buddha Jej wants.

00:33:01.000 We need more of this, everybody.

00:33:02.000 Citizen journalists. 0.64

00:33:03.000 And by the way, we are, in some ways, just trying to hold down the fort as Veritas goes through the whole circus.

00:33:12.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:33:14.000 Email me your thoughts as alwaysfreedom at charliekirk.com.

00:33:18.000 Thank you so much for listening, and God bless.

00:33:23.000 For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to CharlieKirk.com.

The Charlie Kirk Show - February 23, 2023

MAGA, Season Two with Ric Grenell

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