The Charlie Kirk Show - MAHA in Big Ag + AMA 268

00:00:03.000 My name is Charlie Kirk.

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00:01:17.000 Well, welcome to the studio.

00:01:20.000 We are so honored to have the United States Secretary of Agriculture here, Brooke Rollins.

00:01:25.000 Welcome.

00:01:25.000 Thank you.

00:01:26.000 I'm feeling a little overwhelmed right now, as you and I talked about before.

00:01:32.000 I first met Charlie when he was 18.

00:01:34.000 Oh, gosh.

00:01:35.000 Yeah.

00:01:36.000 We kind of grew up.

00:01:37.000 I'm obviously older, but.

00:01:38.000 Kind of grew up in the movement together.

00:01:40.000 So this is sort of full circle.

00:01:42.000 Well, you know, I totally relate to that.

00:01:44.000 When I first came into the studio after everything that happened, it was overwhelming for me basically for the first like couple months.

00:01:50.000 I'm sure.

00:01:51.000 And I had to like, you know, I had a job to do and I had to sort of act like I was comfortable.

00:01:56.000 And I, but you know, now it's actually comforting.

00:01:59.000 It's weird.

00:02:01.000 I come in here, I see his chair, I see Gigi's, you know, beautiful presents for her dad and his hat and his book.

00:02:10.000 Yeah, and it actually brings me comfort.

00:02:12.000 So I get, like, I try and relate to that as we have guests in the studio, and I know it can be overwhelming, but it's kind of just beautiful just to see all these reminders of him, too.

00:02:21.000 It is, and I tell you, the work has to continue.

00:02:26.000 And I just feel his spirit.

00:02:31.000 I'm so grateful to y'all.

00:02:32.000 I'm grateful to Erica for being such a warrior for the country, but for him and his legacy and for his children.

00:02:39.000 So to be a very small part of that is a real honor.

00:02:42.000 Thank you.

00:02:42.000 The work must continue.

00:02:43.000 You put Might remember the first time you ran into him.

00:02:45.000 He had to be an insane go getter at 18.

00:02:47.000 Can you even imagine?

00:02:49.000 I only met him when he was 29 or 30.

00:02:52.000 And everyone, I thought, I ran into him.

00:02:53.000 I just thought, this guy is high intensity.

00:02:55.000 He's always doing a new thing.

00:02:57.000 And Andrew and everyone else are telling me, oh, he's massively chilled out.

00:03:00.000 He used to be far, far more intense.

00:03:03.000 Well, let me tell you, do we have time for the quick story?

00:03:05.000 Yeah, of course, of course.

00:03:06.000 So at that point, let's see, I'm probably, I'm just 32.

00:03:09.000 I'm probably a little more than 20 years older than him, but I always felt more like a big sister.

00:03:14.000 And so he was just starting Turning Point.

00:03:17.000 And we kept hearing about it.

00:03:18.000 I was building the Texas Public Policy Foundation in Texas.

00:03:22.000 Really, kind of the first of its kind idea that I didn't even know what a think tank was.

00:03:27.000 But what I knew is I'd been Rick Perry's policy director and general counsel in my late 20s.

00:03:32.000 And what I knew is that every day, all day, I would get lobbyist after lobbyist after lobbyist in conservative Texas.

00:03:38.000 And it was never about doing what was right.

00:03:40.000 It was never about we're cutting taxes because it's for freedom or we're not going to regulate because we want to return power to the people.

00:03:46.000 It was just here's what I need.

00:03:48.000 I'm like, Where's the lobbyist for freedom?

00:03:50.000 Like, I don't understand.

00:03:52.000 So I left Rick Perry's office after a couple years.

00:03:54.000 It was a great experience.

00:03:56.000 I hit 29, maybe 30.

00:03:58.000 And someone came to me with this idea of the Texas Public Policy Foundation.

00:04:03.000 And I think because I had been on the inside, I fully understood, I couldn't have articulated it then, but I fully understood the opportunity to go in and to really make a difference in my state and just representing freedom.

00:04:16.000 Like that was it.

00:04:17.000 So I said, okay, so kind of that's where it started.

00:04:19.000 So when Charlie came on the scene, I don't know, however many years later 10, maybe 15, he, of course, I think somehow ended up in Texas to raise money for this new concept from this new kid.

00:04:32.000 And so, all the people that he would go to and he'd get the meetings, I don't know how, but he'd get the meetings, and then they would tell him, Go talk to Brooke.

00:04:40.000 Like, she's kind of a little bit ahead of you and go talk to Brooke.

00:04:43.000 And you're wanting to build this thing.

00:04:45.000 She's now built this pretty massive thing in Texas, but we want to see kind of how y'all can work together, what she thinks, et cetera.

00:04:51.000 And so, that's how we first met.

00:04:53.000 Was it 18, 19 year old Charlie building Turning Point, coming to Texas, sitting down?

00:04:58.000 And then, of course, we became really, really good friends.

00:05:00.000 I remember talking to him about you, and the way he would talk about you was always so like, The big sister thing, it really is apt because I remember it was always like there was a level of comfort when it came to Brooke.

00:05:12.000 I'll call Brooke, you know.

00:05:13.000 Yeah.

00:05:14.000 And by the way, so Charlie ends up creating Turning Point and building it into this machine.

00:05:19.000 And now you're in the administration.

00:05:20.000 You're a cabinet official.

00:05:21.000 Yeah.

00:05:22.000 So I figured that's where we should start.

00:05:24.000 Well, we started with the story, which is actually better.

00:05:27.000 But this was just from yesterday or two days ago, if you're watching this live.

00:05:31.000 SOP 49.

00:05:32.000 The U.S. Department of Agriculture.

00:05:35.000 We've canceled.

00:05:36.000 $300,000 contract educating on food justice for queer and transgender farmers in San Francisco.

00:05:43.000 A similar contract we canceled in New York, again, educating transgender and queer farmers on food justice and food equality.

00:05:51.000 I'm not even sure what that means, but apparently the last administration wanted to put our taxpayer dollars towards that.

00:05:58.000 We canceled a $600,000 contract out of Louisiana that was studying the menstrual cycles of transgender men, a $600,000 contract.

00:06:07.000 We canceled another contract out of a university in the middle of the country that focused on getting more diversity, equity, and inclusion into our pest management industry. 0.97

00:06:18.000 Again, these are nonsensical.

00:06:20.000 It makes zero sense to use taxpayer dollars to fund these.

00:06:23.000 I know these are just a few examples of the hundreds and hundreds that we have found.

00:06:29.000 Unbelievable.

00:06:30.000 It's so incredible. 0.59

00:06:31.000 I looked that up and it's so funny because it just captures the moment so well where I guess the actual study was like, we're going to see how feminine hygiene products, whether some are healthy or unhealthy, But then, of course, it was happening in peak woke. 0.79

00:06:45.000 So they had to go, and especially for the trans men who need to use these. 0.62

00:06:49.000 You had to throw this into every single grant application and just got to vaporize.

00:06:54.000 You just have to say, that stuff doesn't work. 0.99

00:06:55.000 When you're saying it out loud, it's the most obnoxious, obscene, absurd, ridiculous. 0.99

00:07:02.000 Like you just said those sentences. 0.99

00:07:04.000 Yes.

00:07:05.000 On national TV. 0.96

00:07:08.000 What does even a BIPOC farmer mean? 1.00

00:07:11.000 In San Francisco.

00:07:13.000 So take this cabinet meeting and send it back.

00:07:15.000 To 1975, and see if anyone can tell what you're talking about.

00:07:18.000 This is obscene stuff, and I'm I'm I mean, I'm proud of you and the job you're doing, but I'm also really embarrassed for you that you had to say that right. 1.00

00:07:26.000 Well, like you're a professional, dignified woman, and I'm talking about queer, BIPOC, transgender mice, and men and pest control. 0.96

00:07:34.000 And Mr. President, to the president of the United States in the cabinet room, it was so bad, y'all. 0.98

00:07:39.000 And just last week, we just got a court ruling down.

00:07:42.000 Um, USDA under the Biden USDA actually.

00:07:47.000 Prioritized grants and loans based on the color of your skin, how DEI you were, illegal, illegal, illegal, canceling all of that.

00:07:57.000 It just is, and I feel like we're still just at the tip of the spear.

00:07:59.000 I mean, the SNAP fraud, the food security fraud.

00:08:01.000 Okay, Ross, this is what I'm going to get into here because I have a list here of these fraud initiatives that you're leading.

00:08:09.000 Okay, so 23 state waivers.

00:08:11.000 You've gotten 23 states to sign on basically, restricting junk food purchases with SNAP.

00:08:16.000 Eight are already implementing.

00:08:17.000 That's really good.

00:08:18.000 You, um, this one blows my mind.

00:08:21.000 You have exposed three billion dollars in snap fraud across 28 states and with national losses projected at over six billion dollars. 0.64

00:08:30.000 By the way, those are the red states.

00:08:32.000 Think about the blue states.

00:08:33.000 That's a whole other, and they're just like not playing ball.

00:08:36.000 The blue states are not playing ball.

00:08:37.000 We need to bend them to our will.

00:08:39.000 This shouldn't be okay.

00:08:40.000 You have to play ball.

00:08:41.000 Yes, can we stop the funding?

00:08:43.000 Can we stop sending them?

00:08:44.000 That's I mean, I know it's a big political hot potato because it's like snap benefits or whatever.

00:08:49.000 Well, fine, play by the rules and we'll give the people that need it the money.

00:08:53.000 This is bananas.

00:08:56.000 186,000 dead people were still collecting SNAP benefits and more than 355,000 cases of people illegally double dipping.

00:09:05.000 Yes, and these are in the red states.

00:09:08.000 We don't even have California's data or New York's data.

00:09:11.000 It'll be quadrupled.

00:09:13.000 How did this happen?

00:09:14.000 Since President Trump took office, 4.3 million fewer people, you say Americans, but we'll say fewer people, are off SNAP.

00:09:22.000 How are we doing that?

00:09:23.000 Well, a couple of different things.

00:09:25.000 First, I think this focus on the fraud.

00:09:28.000 Has moved a lot of the fake people off of SNAP.

00:09:31.000 But I also think, and this is the dream, right?

00:09:33.000 The wages are increasing.

00:09:35.000 There's more people working now than ever before.

00:09:37.000 This is supposed to be the supplemental nutrition assistance program.

00:09:40.000 It's only supposed to last for a certain amount of time for people that truly, truly need it.

00:09:44.000 It had become a year round welfare program, everyone qualified in perpetuity, a way of life.

00:09:50.000 We stack it with SNAP, with disability payments, possibly anywhere, whatever we expanded during COVID and now requiring work requirements.

00:09:58.000 So unless you have a young child, you are required to look.

00:10:02.000 For a job or actually go find a job before you can get these.

00:10:07.000 So we've changed the whole game on the SNAP program and across the whole administration, really.

00:10:11.000 That's amazing.

00:10:12.000 And then, I mean, you combine that with Russ Vogt coming out just today.

00:10:16.000 He's overhauling a trillion dollars with federal grants, mandating e verify.

00:10:20.000 I have no idea how that will overlap with what you're doing at USDA, but it's all good.

00:10:24.000 It's amazing.

00:10:25.000 It's all good.

00:10:25.000 And, you know, no more DEI nonsense and, you know, performance based reviews.

00:10:31.000 Things can get, you can actually end things, which is amazing.

00:10:34.000 So this is a really big story that I don't think a lot of people are.

00:10:37.000 Are you yet talking about?

00:10:38.000 And I want to make sure people are taking note of it.

00:10:41.000 And that is, you have this, the Great American Cotton Plan, which people do not respect how big our cotton industry is and how under assault it is.

00:10:51.000 So I love that you're doing this.

00:10:52.000 I think we have some graphics here we can throw up as you're talking about it.

00:10:55.000 What's going on here?

00:10:56.000 Well, first of all, what I realized a year and a half ago when I very unexpectedly ended up in this job, this was not on my bingo card, was not expecting it.

00:11:04.000 The president made an announcement and off to the races we went.

00:11:08.000 My background is agriculture.

00:11:10.000 I grew up on a farm.

00:11:11.000 I studied agriculture in college at Texas AM, but I had been doing really all policy in all those years and building policy organizations alongside Charlie.

00:11:19.000 So this was unexpected.

00:11:21.000 We were not a policy organization.

00:11:22.000 We're not a think tank.

00:11:23.000 We're a battle tank.

00:11:24.000 Yeah, I love it.

00:11:25.000 Well, I would say we're a battle tank too, but part of the movement as we're building the movement.

00:11:29.000 I knew what you meant, but I. Changing hearts and minds, but the point well taken.

00:11:32.000 What I will say is I knew it was bad.

00:11:34.000 I knew agriculture was in real tough shape.

00:11:36.000 Oh, siege.

00:11:37.000 Big ag.

00:11:38.000 Foreign adversaries buying farmland, the consolidation of our food supply chain by foreign owned companies is insane.

00:11:45.000 How it happened, it still blows my mind, but we're rolling the dice.

00:11:49.000 You have to be asleep at the switch to let that happen.

00:11:51.000 100%.

00:11:51.000 So today in Arizona, we announced as part of that the Great American Cotton Plan for really the first cotton plant we planted in 1607 in a Virginia settlement.

00:12:02.000 Our American revolutionaries wore cotton when George Washington was battling the Brits.

00:12:08.000 This goes back to the very beginning and even before the beginning of our country.

00:12:11.000 But what has happened over the last, we'll say, decade or so, is the foreign fake synthetic material has become so prolific and so cheap that we have been moving away from great American cotton for years.

00:12:26.000 And then Joe Biden, of course, took his eye off the ball.

00:12:29.000 Do you realize under Joe Biden's watch, we lost our market in soybeans, we lost our market in corn, we lost our market in beef, and then they took over?

00:12:36.000 We used to be the greatest exporter in the world of cotton.

00:12:39.000 Brazil took that over in 2022.

00:12:42.000 This is national security level implications.

00:12:45.000 This isn't just good for the farmers, and we want good cotton.

00:12:48.000 If we begin to rely on these other countries for food, for fiber, for fuel, we lose our country.

00:12:53.000 So today we announced a big, big plan to take it back.

00:12:55.000 And it's part of the MAHA movement, too.

00:12:57.000 I was going to say, so hold on, hold on.

00:13:01.000 Alex Clark knew you were coming on, and she said, ask if this means, and we have this graph, the USDA is finally promoting natural fibers over petroleum based synthetics.

00:13:11.000 So she took note of this from the MAHA standpoint.

00:13:13.000 She said, Ask if this means the FDA might look into the laws about what chemicals are allowed in clothes that haven't been updated since 1940.

00:13:21.000 She's saying the laws about what chemicals we put in our clothes haven't been updated since the 40s.

00:13:25.000 Since the 40s.

00:13:27.000 It is a very complex issue.

00:13:28.000 I know it's an FDA thing, but.

00:13:29.000 It's FDA, but from my perspective, this administration, our cabinet, is very unique in that we all sort of roll into each other's lanes.

00:13:37.000 I mean, y'all've seen this with me and Bobby Kennedy for a year and a half now.

00:13:40.000 I mean, who knew he was going to be my number one partner in all things?

00:13:43.000 But he talks about, hey, I waived.

00:13:45.000 You know, I granted 23 states waivers.

00:13:47.000 They can't sell junk food anymore under SNAP.

00:13:49.000 And I'm like, Bobby, that was actually USDA.

00:13:51.000 But I'm very glad you take all the credit for that.

00:13:54.000 It doesn't matter to me.

00:13:55.000 And so, even though that is FDA, this will now be one of my top priorities is digging in and understanding it.

00:14:02.000 Mother of four children, I couldn't agree more with Alex's focus on what we're doing on this.

00:14:07.000 She's saying, I've been hearing from so many moms that they are really into clean clothing.

00:14:13.000 It seems like we're on the brink of another big movement.

00:14:15.000 We are.

00:14:16.000 So, is this, but this could actually help cotton farmers, presumably, right?

00:14:20.000 So, if you start banning some of these petroleum based synthetics, if they're bad for people, this would open up market space for cotton farmers.

00:14:27.000 That's exactly right.

00:14:28.000 And for the first time in 100 years, cotton begins to do this instead of doing this, as we've offshored so much to the bad guys, frankly.

00:14:36.000 We've got just a couple minutes left here in this segment with you.

00:14:40.000 What is the most important thing that this Real America's Voice audience watching live?

00:14:46.000 Needs to know about what you're doing?

00:14:49.000 There are a lot of really important things.

00:14:50.000 I mentioned national security.

00:14:51.000 That's probably the most existential issue.

00:14:53.000 But from my perspective, the biggest legacy issue is the work to make America healthy again.

00:14:58.000 And I think a lot of people would be like, well, wait a minute, that's more Bobby.

00:15:02.000 I said, no, no, no.

00:15:03.000 The only way we make America healthy again is by putting real food, which comes from real farmers, back at the center of every conversation, of every policy decision.

00:15:13.000 USDA spends $400 million every day.

00:15:17.000 Just let that soak in every day on just 16 nutrition programs school lunches, the SNAP program, the WIC program, et cetera.

00:15:24.000 Imagine the market moving power just in that alone, right?

00:15:27.000 The dietary guidelines, yes, we want people eating real food.

00:15:30.000 We want to open the aperture for young farmers to get in and grow lettuce and sell to the local school.

00:15:35.000 But the opportunity to really change the trajectory of the nation under the health, you know, putting farmers and real food back into the center of every piece of policymaking changes the game forever for our country.

00:15:46.000 All right.

00:15:49.000 We've all been told to eat fruits and vegetables forever, but nobody really explained why.

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00:17:08.000 So, Brooke, the issue that I've heard most about, and I know this, you brought it up though, you work with.

00:17:17.000 Secretary Kennedy, a lot over at HHS.

00:17:19.000 Every day.

00:17:20.000 But is this issue, and but I know you work with the EPA as well.

00:17:23.000 That's right.

00:17:24.000 And Lee Zeldin over there.

00:17:26.000 So, this issue of glyphosate, to the extent that it overlaps with you, there's been the allegations, they vary, but it's basically like the admin has given, you know, a legal blank check, essentially, the immunity or something, or working towards this for the glyphosate and chemical manufacturers at the expense of kind of what Maha wants.

00:17:48.000 And Kennedy, Secretary Kennedy's come out against glyphosate.

00:17:52.000 The farmers seem to like it, right?

00:17:54.000 So, what is the truth?

00:17:56.000 What is fiction?

00:17:56.000 Separate truth from fiction here.

00:18:00.000 Are we giving immunity to glyphosate manufacturers?

00:18:03.000 How does that impact your goals at Maha?

00:18:05.000 How does that impact HHS goals at Maha?

00:18:08.000 You know, I think Bobby has talked about this in a way that is really focused on you can't pull a crop protection tool like glyphosate.

00:18:23.000 And just go on as normal.

00:18:25.000 It is decades, whether right or wrong, it is decades of use that has underscored, underwritten, and provided America's farmers and ranchers to become the breadbasket for the world.

00:18:39.000 So if you are to just pull the rug tomorrow and say, sorry, no more glyphosate, right or wrong, again, EPA has now for decades approved it, said it's not harmful if used correctly.

00:18:50.000 The EU uses it.

00:18:51.000 It's actually one of the few things that the EU has approved.

00:18:54.000 They disapprove almost everything.

00:18:55.000 That is one that has been approved.

00:18:57.000 Again, for right or wrong, I think the questions are real.

00:18:59.000 Who's funding those studies?

00:19:00.000 Have they been updated?

00:19:01.000 I mean, those are all really important questions.

00:19:03.000 But the studies we have to date would say that used correctly, it has not proven to be detrimental if used correctly.

00:19:10.000 Having said all of that, the way Bobby has questioned it, I don't disagree with.

00:19:15.000 We have to have an off ramp and a forward leaning plan that allows us to rely more heavily on technology.

00:19:25.000 On AI potentially to use as pesticides.

00:19:28.000 Explain that.

00:19:28.000 How would AI play a role?

00:19:30.000 So you can't believe the technology that's out there today.

00:19:34.000 There are drones that can do one fly over a say a 500 acre field of corn and can within half a second send the information back to the farmer and back to the tractor and say, Oh, actually, where a crop protectant or a pesticide may be necessary is in this one corner on row 57 at cornstalk six.

00:19:56.000 And so instead of just blasting the whole field, you can go in and really focus on where it's needed, whether it's glyphosate, something organic or not.

00:20:05.000 That's how it's always been, I believe, like even with the A lot of the glyphosate harms, it's because people are using it at home and they're really overdoing it.

00:20:12.000 They're not professionals.

00:20:13.000 They don't know exactly how much they need.

00:20:15.000 And this seems like an even more extreme case.

00:20:17.000 Well, listen, I mean, my instincts say probably the world would be better overall health if we weren't using glyphosate.

00:20:25.000 That's my general instinct here.

00:20:27.000 But I also find the argument compelling that you can't rug pull the entire ag industry overnight.

00:20:33.000 I mean, the shock would be dramatic and prices could skyrocket.

00:20:37.000 I've never actually tried that.

00:20:38.000 Sri Lanka did a ban on glyphosate and everything else overnight, and food prices went up 50% in one year.

00:20:45.000 And the leaders of the country were literally not.

00:20:47.000 The president had to flee the country.

00:20:48.000 They fled the country.

00:20:50.000 So that's a very compelling argument.

00:20:52.000 But I love this idea of an off ramp.

00:20:55.000 And it kind of brings up this larger issue of tech.

00:20:59.000 So, one of my big pet peeves, and I mentioned this to you briefly in the green room before you came on, is this whole.

00:21:07.000 I mean, I'm very aware that the president is being.

00:21:10.000 Hounded by big ag, big hospitality.

00:21:12.000 We need foreign workers.

00:21:15.000 And he's a businessman and he wants the business and the economy to be rip roaring.

00:21:19.000 I get it.

00:21:20.000 So it's attention. 0.99

00:21:21.000 I believe that there should be a more concerted effort from the federal government to implement tech and robotics to pick crops so that we don't have to have so many seasonal workers, so we don't have to have illegal immigrants coming over the border and transforming our country, which, by the way, is not just a crop problem or a food price problem. 0.92

00:21:41.000 It's a DMV problem, a school's problem, a hospital problem. 0.99

00:21:44.000 It's a traffic on the roads problem.

00:21:46.000 It's a housing problem.

00:21:47.000 So it's all connected.

00:21:49.000 So, what can you tell me about how you guys are focused at the USDA to address the robotics issue?

00:21:56.000 Is there a moonshot that we can get where we help with the capital expenditures to implement robotics or to train up farmers, local farmers, even big ag, on how to implement this technology more successfully?

00:22:09.000 Yeah, there are a couple of different things.

00:22:11.000 First of all, The USDA is a massive behemoth of an agency.

00:22:15.000 The budget is astounding.

00:22:17.000 A lot of it is food stamps and the welfare programs, but a lot of it is land grant research investments and into these sorts of opportunities.

00:22:27.000 But as in all things, the private sector, this is where a lot of the guys in Silicon Valley have now pivoted to agriculture.

00:22:36.000 And the idea that we can do what you're talking about, we're already seeing it in the dairy industry.

00:22:40.000 If you were to go on, MVP Dairy is one of my favorites.

00:22:43.000 I think they have, I don't know, a lot. 0.69

00:22:44.000 5,000 maybe mama cows on milk.

00:22:47.000 Those cows, they walk out to the pasture, they have their fun time.

00:22:50.000 When they're ready to be milked, they kind of know in their head.

00:22:52.000 Well, they have physical pain that they need to address.

00:22:56.000 And so they're motivated.

00:22:56.000 That's right.

00:22:57.000 They walk back in, they literally walk into a stall.

00:23:01.000 The technology hooks up.

00:23:02.000 There's no worker.

00:23:03.000 The technology hooks up.

00:23:04.000 They get on a carousel.

00:23:05.000 It's actually amazing.

00:23:06.000 Y'all need to look this up.

00:23:07.000 They zoom around on their carousel.

00:23:09.000 They eat their alfalfa, they eat their food.

00:23:11.000 Then they finish after one round, they back off, they go back out to the pasture.

00:23:15.000 It's completely self regulated.

00:23:16.000 Thousands of dairy cattle.

00:23:18.000 So the technology is incredible.

00:23:21.000 I've seen robotics that go through these crop rows and they'll pick.

00:23:26.000 That's right. 1.00

00:23:27.000 And they go quicker than, you know, some, you know, no offense, but like some Guatemalan that came over the border illegally. 0.76

00:23:27.000 Arm, arm. 0.76

00:23:27.000 That's true. 0.76

00:23:34.000 They're actually going quicker and more efficiently.

00:23:37.000 And you don't have all these knock on downstream social impacts, school impacts, DMV impacts.

00:23:42.000 So, but if I'm a farmer and I'm thinking, okay, I get it.

00:23:47.000 I'm MAGA through and through.

00:23:48.000 I voted Trump three times and I want to be supportive of my culture, but I can't afford the local, at least not everybody, for, Harvest season. 1.00

00:23:58.000 I can't afford all Americans or whatever break the bank. 0.99

00:24:01.000 I need to get some of these seasonal workers. 1.00

00:24:03.000 I really am drawn to robotics.

00:24:05.000 I want to try this.

00:24:06.000 Maybe I can save some money.

00:24:07.000 I'm thinking the main barriers are capital expenditure, learning.

00:24:12.000 You're a farmer.

00:24:13.000 You're up from sun up to sun down.

00:24:15.000 And the average farmer's 58 years old.

00:24:16.000 Yeah.

00:24:17.000 So, how are you going to teach an old farmer new tricks?

00:24:20.000 That's right.

00:24:20.000 So, how do we bridge the knowledge gap, the capital expenditure gap?

00:24:24.000 Because a lot of these guys are barely hanging on, right?

00:24:27.000 And you know about this.

00:24:28.000 I know it's near and dear to your heart.

00:24:29.000 We have so many farmers that are folding.

00:24:31.000 Folding up and closing up shop.

00:24:33.000 So that seems to be, and I'm not talking about big ag, although big ag should be the first one that is forced to adopt this stuff or at least incentivized strongly.

00:24:42.000 So, how do we bridge that gap?

00:24:43.000 Yeah, there is a really important opportunity to meet this moment in American history.

00:24:50.000 Everything you have just described is a formula that allows us to really run at full speed toward real significant change.

00:25:00.000 A USDA and an HHS and an FDA.

00:25:04.000 And a small business, you know, a small business, Kelly Loeffler, has now started investing a bunch of money in ag technology.

00:25:10.000 Another conversation for another time, but we've offshored all of our fertilizer for the last 30 years.

00:25:15.000 So we're relying on China and Russia for fertilizer now.

00:25:17.000 We're relying on the Strait of Hormuz for fertilizer.

00:25:17.000 Insanely.

00:25:19.000 Well, that's exactly right.

00:25:20.000 We're now about to break ground on what will be the largest ammonia plant in the world in Louisiana in about a month.

00:25:24.000 So we're solving for that too.

00:25:26.000 But the investment, first of all, deregulating, which would allow our private sector, these Silicon Valley guys, David Freeberg and others, who are all in on agriculture.

00:25:36.000 And they see that as the next big frontier on how to fix that. 0.69

00:25:39.000 While at the same time making sure USDA, instead of spending money on transgender men, you know, the menstrual cycles, which you talked about at the top of our conversation, we're now spending money and investing on this sort of investment. 0.64

00:25:51.000 It would be great if Congress wanted to lean in. 0.71

00:25:54.000 And, you know, we're shrinking government.

00:25:55.000 I think our federal government is now the same size as it was.

00:25:58.000 But this is really important. 0.83

00:25:59.000 We're not afraid to spend money if the ROI means that we don't have the need for 10 million illegals the next time a Democrat takes office. 1.00

00:26:06.000 That's exactly right. 1.00

00:26:07.000 Okay.

00:26:07.000 Like we got to.

00:26:08.000 Cut off the incentive structure. 0.66

00:26:09.000 Half of this is if the farms don't need the labor, they're going to come over the border and yeah, they'll get restaurant work, they'll get hospitality work.

00:26:16.000 Again, this is all assuming a Democrat's a novice, but the farms won't need them.

00:26:20.000 And that cuts off a huge, huge incentive.

00:26:22.000 And we already see that happening with other jobs they would fill that we brought in hundreds of thousands of truck drivers and now we're right on clearly on the brink of having a ton of self driving vehicles.

00:26:31.000 That's right.

00:26:32.000 So we're just going to create this permanent underclass of people who can't get jobs for a job that doesn't exist anymore.

00:26:36.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:26:37.000 No, I agree with you 100%.

00:26:38.000 So we'll go on snap.

00:26:39.000 Yeah, they'll go on snap.

00:26:40.000 Yeah, and then we'll have to kick them off that too when we find out the fraud.

00:26:43.000 Okay, you mentioned China and Brazil as, let's just say, foes in the agriculture space or competitors.

00:26:52.000 What are they doing that's so insidious, and what are we doing to fight back? 0.75

00:26:56.000 Well, we could start with farmland. 0.94

00:26:59.000 China in 1983 owned about 2,000 acres of our American farmland.

00:27:03.000 Today, they own almost 200,000 acres of our American farmland.

00:27:08.000 They purchased Syngenta, which is Basically, there's no other purveyor of seeds and some of the other crop protectant.

00:27:16.000 How did we even like that?

00:27:17.000 How did this happen? 0.98

00:27:18.000 Smithfield, they purchased, which was the largest pork company in America, in the world, but in America, that basically controls about a fifth of our pork in America, now owned by the Chinese.

00:27:30.000 Brazil, with our meat processing, we have a beef price issue today in America, but part of that is because only four companies control about 85% of the processing of our beef.

00:27:40.000 Two of those are Brazilian owned.

00:27:42.000 One of those is JBS, and I will call them out. 1.00

00:27:44.000 I continue to do so.

00:27:46.000 They are a company that has faced 1,900 indictments in Brazil for corruption.

00:27:52.000 They are basically have child slave labor accusations.

00:27:56.000 It's a couple of billionaires, and it is a massive issue.

00:28:00.000 And they keep taking our market share.

00:28:02.000 I know I mentioned Brazil's taking soybean corn, now cotton and beef.

00:28:07.000 These are really, really big national security issues.

00:28:09.000 There's pressure on President Trump to, on the tariff front on beef, so that we lower beef prices.

00:28:15.000 What's your position on that?

00:28:16.000 I mean, I understand you've got a boss, but I mean, that is a tension, though, right?

00:28:20.000 American ranchers are probably hearing that going, It is.

00:28:24.000 It's a, it is, the president is very focused on affordability.

00:28:30.000 And obviously, we're all understand that's probably the top issue for the midterms.

00:28:34.000 All other food prices have come down.

00:28:36.000 Beef has not, because we're at a cattle herd low of 75 years, primarily because the left waged war on ranchers and cattlemen, saying it caused climate change.

00:28:46.000 Climate change took away grazing allotments, et cetera.

00:28:48.000 Exactly.

00:28:49.000 There are a lot, there are other reasons too, drought and some other things, but, and it's a worldwide.

00:28:52.000 You see this from Tal Rico.

00:28:53.000 He's like, we have a, A moral obligation to get rid of meat.

00:28:56.000 We're going to do the vegan thing.

00:28:57.000 Well, literally crazy.

00:28:58.000 I mean, it would be kind of true that this will probably just solve itself eventually.

00:29:03.000 A lot of us is just, you got to wait for the cows to be born.

00:29:05.000 You have to wait for the cows to be born.

00:29:06.000 And then also, not surprisingly, you have to ensure you're protecting and upholding what the ranchers need to do just that.

00:29:15.000 So, on the one hand, you've got the beef price issue, and we're importing beef already.

00:29:20.000 But how do you bring that price down and how much?

00:29:22.000 I mean, it's $6.50, $6.70 a pound of beef.

00:29:24.000 Trying to get that back down to normal prices, which is $5.50.

00:29:28.000 The good news is, unlike fuel, there are other sources of protein.

00:29:30.000 So it's not like families are starving because they can't afford $6.50.

00:29:34.000 You could relieve some pressure in the short term, but in the long term, we got to keep our eyes on our own range.

00:29:38.000 And we have to, it's a national security issue.

00:29:41.000 It really is.

00:29:42.000 So that's what we're really working to do.

00:29:44.000 The flip side, and this is good news for the long term, tough for the short term, is with Make America Healthy Again, everyone's eating more beef and they're willing to pay for it.

00:29:53.000 So it's a supply and demand issue.

00:29:54.000 I want high tea, baby.

00:29:55.000 That's right.

00:29:56.000 I want, you know, I'm a red blooded American male.

00:29:58.000 I eat a lot of beef.

00:29:59.000 You need beef.

00:30:00.000 I need beef. 0.73

00:30:01.000 My kids just love beef.

00:30:01.000 So do my kids.

00:30:02.000 Oh, yeah.

00:30:03.000 No, and everyone's eating more beef.

00:30:04.000 And so that's been a huge success.

00:30:05.000 Shout out to GoodRanchers, goodranchers.com.

00:30:08.000 Oh, are they supporters?

00:30:09.000 Oh, I love those guys.

00:30:10.000 They're good.

00:30:11.000 Ben's amazing.

00:30:12.000 Product of the USA for the first time.

00:30:12.000 Yeah.

00:30:14.000 We, two months ago, said you can no longer sell in America, but you can't say you're a product of the USA unless you're born, sold, raised, harvested, processed here.

00:30:25.000 Whereas others, if it was one of the five, they could stick on a USA.

00:30:28.000 So, we're incentivizing our ranchers to build their herds every year.

00:30:32.000 So, you're going after fraud, you're encouraging Maha, we're getting rid of synthetics, we're promoting cotton.

00:30:38.000 Well, we're not getting rid of synthetics, we're creating a marketplace where cotton wins.

00:30:42.000 Yes.

00:30:42.000 And we should review some of the synthetics.

00:30:44.000 Yes.

00:30:45.000 And then we're also protecting our home turf, right, with the ranchers and the farmers here.

00:30:53.000 Brooke, it seems like you're checking all the boxes.

00:30:54.000 Can we do one more that I think your audience will love?

00:30:57.000 Yeah, absolutely.

00:30:58.000 So, the lawfare piece of this is real.

00:31:01.000 Obviously, the weaponization of government, we've all seen it.

00:31:04.000 Charlie, you guys, I, the president, certainly more than anyone.

00:31:07.000 But what a lot of people don't know is that our farmers and ranchers with the Democrats at every level, federal, state, local, have been under assault, whether it's using eminent domain to take.

00:31:18.000 There was a 175 year old farm in New Jersey, sixth generation Andy Henry.

00:31:22.000 The city of, I think it was Cranberry, New Jersey, tried to take their land, take it after trying to buy it, and they said no to try to take their land to build affordable housing.

00:31:31.000 This is a 175 year old farm before the Civil War.

00:31:35.000 In Arizona, I just, two nights ago.

00:31:36.000 Affordable housing because we imported 75 million people into the country since the 1990s.

00:31:41.000 Get this.

00:31:42.000 There is a ranch I just posted about a couple of days ago, the Casey Murph Ranch here in Arizona, where the state of Arizona is trying to take, to put solar panels on.

00:31:53.000 Not try to buy, not try to say, can we work with you, but to take his ranch, his sixth generation ranch, to put solar panels on.

00:32:02.000 So he's an eminent domain on that?

00:32:03.000 Yes.

00:32:04.000 Yes.

00:32:05.000 It is one thing that's happening.

00:32:06.000 It's such a scourge.

00:32:07.000 It doesn't even look nice.

00:32:08.000 Oh, it's awful.

00:32:09.000 What's more beautiful than what you're looking at in a big, beautiful farm or a big, beautiful ranch?

00:32:12.000 Yes.

00:32:13.000 Yes. 0.97

00:32:13.000 And then you replace it with a friggin' solar. 0.97

00:32:15.000 And it's intermittent. 0.92

00:32:16.000 It doesn't even work.

00:32:17.000 You can't power a country on solar or wind.

00:32:20.000 Like, it is really massively problematic for so many reasons, but the lawfare against our farmers and ranchers is real.

00:32:26.000 So, how many farms are we losing on an annual basis?

00:32:29.000 Well, has it slowed yet?

00:32:31.000 It's beginning to slow.

00:32:33.000 We've been losing tens of thousands on a yearly basis, but we are working. 0.86

00:32:37.000 That's the other good thing about Maha, it incentivizes first generation or second generation to have.

00:32:44.000 50 herd of cattle, slaughter them, support and sell just to the local school or just to the local hospital.

00:32:50.000 We've got a whole young farmer project that allows them to do that.

00:32:54.000 I had two brothers in Albuquerque, New Mexico, in the desert, who got together, wanted to become farmers.

00:32:59.000 Dad's a doctor, mom's a professor.

00:33:00.000 They now grow, after 10 years, 250,000 leads of organic lettuce on three acres in the desert.

00:33:06.000 They employ six people, legal workers, and they have made a life on three acres, 250,000 head of lettuce.

00:33:14.000 It is the most righteous thing.

00:33:15.000 How do people grow?

00:33:16.000 Plug into this stuff.

00:33:17.000 They want to see how you could help them.

00:33:18.000 Where do they go?

00:33:19.000 They go to usda.gov.

00:33:21.000 There are so many programs.

00:33:23.000 It's a little bit challenging from a conservative free market perspective, but these programs are so important.

00:33:29.000 The good ones.

00:33:29.000 They're doing it righteously now.

00:33:30.000 And I just can't imagine what it must have been like day one where you opened the hood at USDA and saw the woke and the corruption and the fraud and the waste.

00:33:40.000 It must have been just shocking.

00:33:41.000 On day one, we canceled 900, not 90, 900 DEI trainings just at USDA.

00:33:48.000 900 PBI traffic.

00:33:49.000 We were so, things were way worse than I think people realized.

00:33:53.000 We all knew it was bad, and I've been at this a really long time.

00:33:57.000 No idea how truly corrupt and horrible it is.

00:34:00.000 I know we started the conversation on SNAP. 0.82

00:34:02.000 What we found in just the red states is enough to make anyone weep.

00:34:07.000 What we will find in the blue states when we finally get our hands on that data.

00:34:11.000 How are we going to get it?

00:34:12.000 Well, we're in litigation right now.

00:34:14.000 The next step is to cut the funding, and then we have a real conversation.

00:34:17.000 Good.

00:34:18.000 I think we should go.

00:34:20.000 I agree.

00:34:20.000 Hard.

00:34:21.000 And the president really agrees with that too, which is the good news.

00:34:24.000 Well, Brooke, I know you got to run.

00:34:27.000 It's been wonderful having this conversation.

00:34:29.000 People do not fully appreciate all that goes on in our government and especially at USDA.

00:34:34.000 So thank you for a little peek behind the curtain here.

00:34:36.000 It's been really fascinating.

00:34:37.000 I feel like we have and are honoring our friend Charlie's legacy.

00:34:41.000 And this was what he dreamed for, what he worked for his whole life, his young life, but his whole life.

00:34:46.000 And it's coming to fruition.

00:34:48.000 And he's a big reason that.

00:34:49.000 Folks like you get a chance to.

00:34:51.000 That's exactly right.

00:34:52.000 I would argue, maybe the biggest reason.

00:34:54.000 I would argue the same.

00:34:55.000 Well, God bless you.

00:34:56.000 And thank you for coming in and visiting us.

00:34:58.000 Thank you.

00:34:59.000 Anytime.

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00:36:54.000 Mark, great to see you.

00:36:57.000 We have reports now that President Trump has been rushed to the Situation Room.

00:37:01.000 I don't know if that's just headlines trying to get clicks, but he is in the Situation Room reviewing the peace terms and the framework of a potential peace deal with Iran.

00:37:13.000 First question is Are you hopeful this can actually get done?

00:37:17.000 And if it can, what are the implications?

00:37:20.000 I'm hopeful in the sense that I hope it happens. 1.00

00:37:22.000 I'm skeptical in the sense that it's hard for me to see the deal that the president just outlined on Truth Social being agreed to by the Iranians. 0.99

00:37:30.000 I've thought for a while that the words coming out of their mouth in a piece of paper saying they're giving up their nuclear program would be a bridge too far for them under the current circumstances where they don't seem cowed.

00:37:43.000 And I would caution people that if the president does say, I met with my team, we're signing the deal.

00:37:47.000 Even if Iran says they're signing the deal too, although it would be a big step for them to acknowledge a commitment to get rid of the nuclear program, it's going to be hard to get that done, particularly when one of the first items in the deal is opening up the strait, which is great for the American economy and the American driver, but also takes that economic pressure off Iran.

00:38:07.000 So I'm skeptical that the deal actually will be agreed to by both sides, but if that happens, we're all going to have to watch to see whether Iran will continue to negotiate the terms and the specifics on nuclear in good faith.

00:38:19.000 And history suggests. 0.81

00:38:21.000 We should all be skeptical about that.

00:38:23.000 Yeah.

00:38:23.000 I mean, I think that's a really good point of caution here, Mark, because it is a step by step process.

00:38:28.000 It's sort of like, hey, we're going to take one step of good faith forward.

00:38:32.000 If you meet us there, we're going to take another one and another one and another one.

00:38:36.000 But if you don't, then the stick is waiting, right?

00:38:41.000 We can blockade the straight again.

00:38:42.000 We could even use kinetic military force again.

00:38:45.000 We could roll this all the way back to the start of the process. 0.99

00:38:48.000 So I do agree with you.

00:38:51.000 That being said, I have been told, sources have told me, that what's changed about this is that the moderates seem ascendant.

00:38:59.000 The hardliners seem like they're getting more and more isolated.

00:39:02.000 That could change.

00:39:03.000 It's not that the hardliners are gone.

00:39:05.000 And the other thing is that they actually are willing, for the first time, talking about concessions on nuclear, talking about, okay, we'll stop.

00:39:12.000 We won't pursue this.

00:39:13.000 And we'll create a plan for you guys to actually get the dust, right?

00:39:16.000 Well, but I feel like we've been around the block on this a few times where it's the moderate rebels, the moderate extremists.

00:39:22.000 We've seen that in Syria, we've seen that in Libya.

00:39:25.000 Certainly, Mark, I think you've probably been around the block on hopes in the Middle East a few times, and you might have some experience on how that tends to pan out.

00:39:34.000 Well, historically, in the Middle East generally, as you suggest, Blake, and specifically Iran, it hasn't worked out great.

00:39:40.000 But I think one of the encouraging things in the way the president has framed the deal, and we'll see in the actual document if that's the case, if Iran is not getting financial concessions up front, they're not getting any sort of unfreezing of assets, they're not getting sanctions taken off, they're simply being allowed to trade oil.

00:39:58.000 Which probably would involve some sanctions being taken off, but specifically for that purpose, then I think the pressure can remain on them.

00:40:06.000 And the president and some of his advisors have dreamed from the beginning that the way to solve this is to get Iran into the community of nations to cross what, for a time, they were calling the Golden Bridge. 0.88

00:40:16.000 So you're right to be skeptical about the Middle East. 0.81

00:40:20.000 We're all right to be skeptical about Iran, but this is the president who struck the deal between Israel and Gaza. 0.68

00:40:27.000 That deal's been stalled out, but. 0.62

00:40:29.000 Between that and the Abraham Accords, he's been made more forward progress in the region than any of his recent predecessors. 0.69

00:40:35.000 And so maybe this will be a deal that the Iranians can be coaxed into. 0.94

00:40:39.000 And maybe if the so called moderates are ascended, there can be the kind of economic connection that really is the key for a lot of folks to say you can never deal with Iran in good faith as long as the religious extremists are in charge. 0.61

00:40:54.000 But maybe this can change things if their economy is offered kind of a tie up with the U.S.

00:41:00.000 Well, let's talk incentives here then, Mark, because a lot of times deals get done when the incentives align, all right?

00:41:05.000 So, Iran's got these wells that if they have to shut them off because they run out of storage, you might not ever be able to turn them back on, right?

00:41:12.000 Okay, that's a huge incentive, even if you're a hardliner and even if you sort of don't care about your own people, that is something to consider.

00:41:20.000 It's a huge pressure point.

00:41:21.000 So, they're incentivized to at least open the straight back up.

00:41:25.000 Whether or not they'll actually play ball in the nuclear, we don't know, all right?

00:41:28.000 And that's the one thing I'm a little bit skeptical with this deal is like, okay, why don't you let us have the nuclear, then we'll open the straight.

00:41:33.000 I kind of want the The points reverse.

00:41:36.000 Secondly, though, politically here at home, we have to be realistic about the political incentives.

00:41:42.000 If we get gas under $3 on average across the country again, heading into November, that's a huge boon to the president and to the economy.

00:41:50.000 Those things seem to be in alignment.

00:41:52.000 Do you think that's enough to push this to the president signing it?

00:41:56.000 You know what I mean?

00:41:57.000 It's like he's got to be a realist about this.

00:41:59.000 Are you hearing that he's as concerned about that as maybe I am or you might be?

00:42:03.000 No, I mean, the order of operations is exactly what you said.

00:42:08.000 But not only for the reasons you said, which is getting the nuclear done, some people think will take many months and some people think will take years.

00:42:16.000 Okay, that's a much different timetable than the president needs to be on both politically and economically for reopening the strait.

00:42:23.000 So, this is why you're going to hear skepticism, including from some neocons and from some independent analysts, which is to say opening the strait has benefits for both sides.

00:42:32.000 There's been a paradox that I think held up a deal.

00:42:35.000 Both sides want the strait open long term, but short term, opening the strait.

00:42:40.000 Is a disadvantage for both sides.

00:42:41.000 Iran gives up its leverage over the president regarding gas prices in the midterms.

00:42:46.000 And the president gives up leverage over Iran for what you said, which is now the pressure on them to not have to shut down their oil facilities and do permanent damage goes away.

00:42:56.000 So, this is a sign of trust, a sign of good faith.

00:42:59.000 Of course, even if they agree to it, one drone or one attack on one ship can make a big difference.

00:43:05.000 There's lots of questions in the oil industry and the shipping industry about even if they agree today, how soon insurers and captains can get moving again to move ships through and how soon that'll impact prices.

00:43:17.000 But The nuclear piece is just very complicated.

00:43:20.000 And that's assuming that Iran is operating in some level of good faith, which the vice president said last night, they are operating currently in good faith.

00:43:29.000 It'd be great if they do.

00:43:31.000 But even if they want to get this done, it's going to be a complicated process. 0.94

00:43:35.000 And that, again, assumes that the hardliners don't reassert their power over the process.

00:43:41.000 And I think it's, again, all this caution is super warranted.

00:43:41.000 Yeah.

00:43:45.000 I'm not trying to be glass half full, rose colored glasses.

00:43:48.000 I'm simply saying politically, Getting this deal done makes all the sense in the world if it can be done, right?

00:43:56.000 And the caution that you're mentioning, Mark, here about we're not sure if the chain of command is being followed strictly in a centralized way in Iran.

00:44:07.000 You could have factions that are controlling different parts of the IRGC or the Revolutionary Guard, right?

00:44:13.000 And they could spring an attack on one of these vessels completely outside of the chain of command that has been established in this framework.

00:44:20.000 And then what do you do?

00:44:22.000 So there's lots of questions remaining.

00:44:24.000 Yeah.

00:44:25.000 You're right about two things for sure that I emphasize.

00:44:25.000 Yeah.

00:44:27.000 One is these ships aren't going to just go through, they're going to need to be safe. 0.74

00:44:33.000 And just saying the blockade's off and Iran is going to let free passage go doesn't help the insurers get insurance in place, doesn't reassure the captains and crews, and doesn't keep a rogue element in Iran from striking. 0.51

00:44:47.000 And we don't know what would happen in that instance.

00:44:49.000 The other thing is if the deal is anything like what the president said on Truth Social, Good for him because this exceeds my expectations from a few hours ago about what the best possible deal would be for him and for the United States politically and geopolitically to get the process going because the status quo was untenable for the president.

00:45:10.000 It was untenable politically and geopolitically, diplomatically.

00:45:13.000 He needed a change.

00:45:14.000 And this is under the circumstances.

00:45:17.000 Again, if the president's outline is correct, this exceeds what I thought was possible under the current circumstances.

00:45:23.000 Well, and I think it could be legacy building, certainly, but.

00:45:26.000 Also, this political ramifications are extremely huge.

00:45:32.000 Blake, you have a question.

00:45:33.000 I know we've only got a minute and a half left.

00:45:34.000 We could take it on the other side if you need to.

00:45:36.000 Well, I think another topic that's been taking up a lot of attention in Washington and online, but we haven't talked about it much on this show, and it's causing a rift between the president and Republicans in Congress, is this effort to get an anti weaponization fund going via the courts.

00:45:53.000 Obviously, we know President Trump faced a lot of legal attacks.

00:45:56.000 A lot of his allies faced a lot of legal attacks, and they've tried to.

00:46:00.000 Engineer this, I think it's about $1.7, $1.8 billion fund for people who say that they have been the target of weaponized lawfare from the DOJ in the past.

00:46:13.000 The president is hoping to get this.

00:46:16.000 Republicans are pretty skeptical, obviously.

00:46:17.000 Democrats are saying it's completely beyond the pale.

00:46:22.000 As of this moment, a federal judge is holding it up.

00:46:25.000 But I thought maybe going on the other side, Mark, if you have thoughts on the overall situation of him attempting to get this, is it as unprecedented as it looks?

00:46:35.000 And is it going to be the sort of thing that becomes a distraction over the course of this summer?

00:46:41.000 Like your excellent summary and narrative of the situation left that one key fact, which is it's not just Democrats who object to this.

00:46:48.000 A lot of Republicans object to it too, including Republican senators who are now holding up the president's desired reconciliation package to fund homeland security because they don't want any part of this.

00:46:59.000 And sometimes in an election year with an unpopular president, the president's poll numbers are currently not good.

00:47:06.000 You see objections that are based on politics.

00:47:08.000 And there's no doubt that Republican senators in the Maine.

00:47:10.000 Think the politics of this are bad, but they also don't like the substance of it for the reason you suggested.

00:47:15.000 This is not normal, what was done here.

00:47:17.000 It would take a while to explain all the reasons it's not normal.

00:47:20.000 Have presidents controlled money before and doled it out to their cronies?

00:47:24.000 Sure.

00:47:25.000 But the nature of how this came about and the nature of what it is is politically toxic.

00:47:31.000 Again, not in the view of Democrats only, not in the view of reporters, but in the view of a lot of Republicans.

00:47:36.000 And so, whatever the disposition of it is in the courts, and as you said, a district court judge has held it up, there'll certainly be appeals.

00:47:44.000 I don't believe this thing will ever happen in anything like the form it's in.

00:47:48.000 I believe Republican senators are going to make the president either significantly change it or kill it.

00:47:54.000 Mark, I have to ask you about this.

00:47:56.000 I'm sort of convinced there's not a whole lot of significance here, but I do find it interesting that Jill Biden is now trying to set the record straight on the infamous debate night.

00:48:07.000 You know, she gets up on stage and said, You answered all the questions, Joe, which was probably untrue.

00:48:15.000 But She's now admitting that she was worried.

00:48:18.000 Did he have a stroke?

00:48:19.000 Was he drugged?

00:48:21.000 You know, was he sabotaged?

00:48:22.000 Which sounds equally implausible to me, to be honest, because she had to see him every single day.

00:48:26.000 Yeah, he was never like, oh God, she says, are they going to think that he was always like this?

00:48:30.000 Jill, we have news for you.

00:48:32.000 He was always like this, and we saw it with our own two eyes.

00:48:36.000 Your thoughts, Mark.

00:48:37.000 I think the biggest thing that was revealed is the Bidens don't have C SPAN, because if they did, Jill Biden would have seen this.

00:48:44.000 I find this whole thing really troubling.

00:48:46.000 It's a fun story, and I know I predicted you guys would ask me about it.

00:48:50.000 Because it's fun and it's interesting, but they're two fundamental things.

00:48:53.000 Jill Biden's job is to protect her family, protect her husband.

00:48:57.000 So her lying about this, I just chalk it up to whatever.

00:49:00.000 But it's troubling that she had an opportunity not to respond in the heat of the moment, but to write a book, to think about what she wanted history to think her view of this was.

00:49:11.000 And obviously, she didn't think her husband was on drugs or having a stroke, or she would have done something differently on the night of the debate.

00:49:17.000 So I find that all just kind of annoying.

00:49:20.000 What I continue to be more troubled by is.

00:49:23.000 The dominant media's reaction to this is, oh my goodness, look what Jill Biden is saying.

00:49:28.000 And then say, well, it doesn't make sense because right after the debate, she said he did such a good job.

00:49:32.000 No, the reaction should be, you know what?

00:49:34.000 Now's time for us to come clean on the role we played in the cover up.

00:49:38.000 Because anyone who looked at that night and was surprised, or as Jill Biden said, oh my God, he must be having a stroke.

00:49:45.000 If that was the product of a stroke, then the guy had strokes on a regular basis for seven years.

00:49:50.000 And he's a medical miracle for having lived through it.

00:49:53.000 So, I mean, To me, that's just depressing to once again watch the media be like, oh, we're figuring it out now.

00:49:59.000 We caught Jill Biden in a lie.

00:50:01.000 She obviously didn't think he was having a stroke.

00:50:02.000 No, it's an opportunity to say, once again, we failed you, the American people.

00:50:07.000 We should have told you this sooner.

00:50:08.000 But obviously, Jill Biden's not telling the truth.

00:50:10.000 And obviously, we didn't tell you the truth because we act surprised on debate night, too.

00:50:14.000 And you're right.

00:50:15.000 And we should come clean, not just for moral reasons, but we really went through something incredibly dicey with that, which is we don't, who was actually the president in 2023?

00:50:28.000 2024.

00:50:29.000 President Trump has raised the question: Did President Biden's pardons, was he actually aware of all of them at any point?

00:50:37.000 Where are his policies?

00:50:38.000 Where are his executive orders?

00:50:39.000 Were they actually routing through the president or through this small cabal of people who had access to him?

00:50:47.000 And I think we actually do need to get to the bottom of that, or it raises serious questions about the nature of our system.

00:50:55.000 It's not just President Trump's jokes about having the auto signature machine in the Rose Garden.

00:51:01.000 It really raises concerns about our system.

00:51:04.000 Amen.

00:51:05.000 And it raises questions about the people around the president, the cabinet, the senior White House staff, his family.

00:51:11.000 It raises questions about the president himself.

00:51:13.000 And I'll say again what I said at the time.

00:51:16.000 Joe Biden was not as far gone as his critics said, but he was not as with it as his defenders said.

00:51:22.000 And people in that state have good days and bad days.

00:51:25.000 And he had some good days.

00:51:26.000 He had good days.

00:51:27.000 You look at the State of the Union.

00:51:29.000 He gave that very year of the presidential race.

00:51:31.000 He had good days.

00:51:33.000 But it also, I go back to the media, it raises questions about the media, about the American Medical Association, about members of Congress.

00:51:40.000 All these members of Congress.

00:51:42.000 Say now, oh, privately, I saw how bad he was, or I had no idea.

00:51:47.000 I'm sick of people being asked, Did you have any idea?

00:51:51.000 Of course, they had an idea because they all have C SPAN, so unlike the Bidens.

00:51:55.000 And so it's troubling about the whole system, not just that we had a commander in chief in place who obviously couldn't do the job and was inclined to run again, but about the entire society's failure to say the emperor has no clothes.

00:52:10.000 You know, the emperor has no clothes is a great parable and it's often used.

00:52:14.000 I can't think of a more apt moment to use it.

00:52:17.000 We all saw the president was naked.

00:52:18.000 We all saw it.

00:52:20.000 And yet, with few exceptions, conservative media being one of them, me being another, no one would say it.

00:52:27.000 Even the congressman from Minnesota, whose name I always forget, who ran for president briefly, even he pulled his punches.

00:52:36.000 He wasn't totally honest about what was happening.

00:52:39.000 And then you got every other member of Congress.

00:52:42.000 And then only because he was a threat to the party's chances in the election down ballot.

00:52:47.000 Only then did Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer and others speak out, not because they said, oh my God, we're endangering the health and safety of America.

00:52:58.000 No, they spoke out because, oh my God, we could lose to Donald Trump and down ballot candidates could lose too.

00:53:03.000 It's just a horrible, horrible failure of accountability across the board.

00:53:08.000 Well, and Mark, I will just tell you, we had Brooke Rollins in studio yesterday and we played the interview earlier.

00:53:15.000 When you hear their stories, not just what we shared on the show, Because, you know, they come in and we greet them and we say, How's it going?

00:53:21.000 And they're telling us, like, when we got under the hood here, the amount of fraud, mismanagement, and comp, it was like a bunch of kids running around with no, you know, teacher around.

00:53:32.000 Like, I'm telling you, under the bite, and obviously some of that is filtered through a political lens.

00:53:37.000 I'm biased, I admit it, but it's crazy how much fraud was going on, how much grift was going on.

00:53:44.000 And listen, I get that that's always sort of baked into the cake politically, but it's shocking.

00:53:48.000 And when you hear stories like this and you look back at the four years of Biden, you realize just how.

00:53:54.000 You know, the country was not being run well.

00:53:56.000 I think that's fair to say.

00:53:57.000 Mark, I know you got a dart here, so I'll let you go.

00:54:01.000 But thank you for making the time this morning, and we appreciate it as always, my friend.

00:54:04.000 Thanks, guys.

00:54:05.000 Great to see you both.

00:54:06.000 Looking forward to being back.

00:54:08.000 All right.

00:54:08.000 So, a big, busy hour.

00:54:10.000 We've got our eyes on President Trump and this Iranian peace deal.

00:54:16.000 Listen, whatever you make of it, if you want to see regime change, you want to see, I get it. 0.98

00:54:20.000 But this is a good deal if we can get it done. 0.89

00:54:23.000 And so, all eyes are on Iran because all eyes will then be on Iran. 0.62

00:54:28.000 The US, where they should be.

00:54:29.000 All right.

00:54:29.000 If you want to be focused domestically, if you want to be focused on the midterms, you want this deal done.

00:54:34.000 Okay.

00:54:35.000 So, pray for peace.

00:54:36.000 Pray for President Trump.

00:54:38.000 Pray that the right people would rise to the occasion in Iran and they would come to the fore and that the hardliners would be pushed out, the naysayers would be pushed out on both sides, by the way.

00:54:48.000 On our side as well.

00:54:50.000 We want peace.

00:54:51.000 We want domestic tranquility.

00:54:52.000 We want to be focused on the issues that will drive out the vote here, right here at home.

00:54:57.000 So, pray for peace today.

00:54:58.000 We're going to be watching it very closely.

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00:56:27.000 Ask whatever questions you want.

00:56:29.000 Seems like every week, Blake, we have some question go viral for good or for ill.

00:56:35.000 This week we have Daisy with us, the one and only Daisy who takes good care of us around here.

00:56:41.000 Yes, she did have a baby, and yes, the baby is exceptionally cute.

00:56:45.000 And I'm like a tough creator of babies.

00:56:46.000 I've had the first phase of baby, like maximal cute.

00:56:48.000 Phase I like to talk about.

00:56:50.000 I'm a tough grader with babies.

00:56:51.000 If I don't think your baby's cute, I probably just won't say anything.

00:56:55.000 Daisy's baby's pretty cute.

00:56:56.000 Thank you guys.

00:56:57.000 Unfortunately, none of these people will ever see what she looks like, but she is very cute.

00:56:57.000 I appreciate it.

00:57:01.000 Well, exactly.

00:57:02.000 So we're going to keep that under wraps, but that's all right.

00:57:05.000 We got to ask us anything.

00:57:08.000 So we have a first caller.

00:57:09.000 Do we have it ready?

00:57:11.000 Jonathan is first.

00:57:12.000 Jonathan, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.

00:57:14.000 Please unmute yourself.

00:57:16.000 Yes, how goes?

00:57:18.000 Hey, it goes well.

00:57:19.000 It's Friday.

00:57:20.000 You know what I mean?

00:57:21.000 Yeah, so I have a few questions here.

00:57:24.000 First, is there going to be a student action summit this year?

00:57:28.000 No, good question.

00:57:29.000 We actually do student action summit every other year.

00:57:33.000 So that people don't know that.

00:57:35.000 And I don't know, it's come up before in private conversations, but it's an every other year thing.

00:57:39.000 So this year just happens to be our off year.

00:57:42.000 We're doing Women's Leadership Summit in what, just next week, right?

00:57:45.000 Yes, San Antonio.

00:57:46.000 San Antonio.

00:57:47.000 So that's the summer programming this year.

00:57:50.000 But it will be back next year, never fear.

00:57:53.000 Okay, good.

00:57:53.000 Can you set up tickets for us to get lunch, dinner with some of the speakers at AMFest?

00:57:57.000 Man, that would be interesting.

00:58:00.000 I would like to get lunch or dinner with some of them.

00:58:03.000 Yeah, what's that?

00:58:04.000 Like a VIP thing or something?

00:58:06.000 Well, yeah, maybe that's like a raffle or some sort of.

00:58:10.000 Yeah.

00:58:10.000 Say that again?

00:58:11.000 Like some extra ticket we can buy to get lunch, dinner with some of the speakers.

00:58:15.000 You know, I kind of love this idea.

00:58:19.000 Let me kick it around.

00:58:21.000 Some speakers obviously would be more willing to do such things than others.

00:58:25.000 But that's a fun idea.

00:58:26.000 I like that.

00:58:27.000 We've done in the past, we've done a lot of like win roundtables with speakers where you can have conversations with them.

00:58:34.000 Right.

00:58:35.000 And I think that a lot of them would be willing to do that.

00:58:37.000 So I was going to say, if we filmed it, would you be less inclined to participate in something like that or more inclined?

00:58:43.000 I really want it to be filmed.

00:58:45.000 I'd love that.

00:58:46.000 Oh, cool.

00:58:47.000 See, there you go.

00:58:47.000 That's always interesting to kind of hear your take on it, the audience's take on it, if that's something they'd want.

00:58:53.000 Some people maybe want more privacy.

00:58:55.000 But I think that'd be really fun.

00:58:55.000 I don't know.

00:58:57.000 Let me kick it around with the team and we'll see what we can do.

00:59:00.000 Who are you hoping to have at Amfest this year?

00:59:03.000 Who would you want to get lunch or dinner with?

00:59:06.000 Probably Tucker Carlson and Officer Tatum.

00:59:11.000 Officer Tatum.

00:59:12.000 Oh, wow.

00:59:13.000 That's quite the spectrum you got there.

00:59:16.000 Blake knows Tucker very well.

00:59:17.000 He's very personable at dinners.

00:59:19.000 He's a very charming lad.

00:59:22.000 Whatever you think, I mean, I know Tucker's made a lot of news for some of his recent interviews.

00:59:26.000 He will probably continue to make news.

00:59:27.000 He is a remarkably charismatic and charming individual and person.

00:59:31.000 I can't tell you.

00:59:31.000 Excuse me.

00:59:33.000 His whole speech.

00:59:33.000 You hear it throughout the entire evening, wherever you are.

00:59:37.000 Exactly.

00:59:37.000 Don't try to laugh.

00:59:38.000 I think it's like, Trademarked at this point.

00:59:41.000 Do you have any other questions, Jonathan?

00:59:43.000 Yes.

00:59:44.000 Is there any other big rhinos we're looking to defeat this year that we really want to take out?

00:59:49.000 The big one we really want to take out, you're thinking the same guy as me, the Lady Graham, Lindsey Graham of South Carolina.

00:59:56.000 He's kind of the white whale of rhinos.

00:59:57.000 He survives every reelection bid. 0.71

00:59:59.000 I think we've tried to take him out two or three times at this point, but he's like a cockroach of Washington.

01:00:04.000 He's very difficult to bring down.

01:00:06.000 Yeah, I think, listen, if Lady Graham went away, that would be great.

01:00:11.000 I mean, and just a note of You know, optimism and positivity, right?

01:00:15.000 We have all these priorities that we want to get past that we can't because of the 60 vote threshold in the Senate.

01:00:20.000 But if you think about it, and really you need about 50 plus one with JD to nuke the filibuster, but we can't get there because we don't have enough votes.

01:00:29.000 But think about it Tillis is going away, probably replaced by a Democrat, so that's not super helpful, but at least he's going away.

01:00:35.000 He's a thorn in our side.

01:00:36.000 You've got now you've got Cassidy in Louisiana.

01:00:39.000 He lost his primary, Cornyn, he lost his primary.

01:00:42.000 So these are good developments, and the Senate is getting better and better.

01:00:46.000 Now, I want to keep your eyes on Mike Rogers.

01:00:51.000 No, Mike Collins.

01:00:52.000 I was mixing two names together.

01:00:54.000 And then Rogers, and that's in Georgia, and then Rogers in Michigan.

01:00:58.000 Those are two races that I am watching very, very closely.

01:01:01.000 So we got to get rid of Ossoff.

01:01:03.000 Now, the odds are not in our favor because it's tough to take down an incumbent.

01:01:07.000 Georgia is basically a 50 50 state right now, but that's a race that I would love to have.

01:01:11.000 Same with Michigan.

01:01:12.000 So we're keeping our eyes on those races, and.

01:01:16.000 You know, what we've seen, though, another thing that we should mention is what happened in Indiana.

01:01:21.000 You know, that was a state level, state senators that had gotten the way of redistricting, and we took out all the rhinos there.

01:01:27.000 So it is prime rhino season, rhino hunting season, and we got to keep our eye on that.

01:01:33.000 And it just, again, to encourage the audience, we're getting better and better and better, both at the House level and in the Senate level.

01:01:40.000 And we would be remiss to not talk about, Tyler mentioned, we really want people to travel here in October.

01:01:45.000 Do we want to go into that a little more?

01:01:47.000 Yeah, go to tpaction.com.

01:01:49.000 You can volunteer.

01:01:50.000 We're actually hiring right now.

01:01:51.000 I think we had a class of 32 new ballot chasers here in the office yesterday, training up to become ballot chasers here in Arizona.

01:02:00.000 We're also doing ballot chasing in Nevada.

01:02:02.000 We're doing ballot chasing in New Hampshire.

01:02:03.000 So, three states you can actually get full time work in.

01:02:06.000 But if you can't do that and you want to volunteer some time, we're going to be doing huge, huge groups of volunteers.

01:02:11.000 We'll train you up.

01:02:12.000 We'll put you in the field.

01:02:13.000 We'll give you a hotel room.

01:02:15.000 And you get to go be a ballot chaser for a couple weeks, a month.

01:02:18.000 During election month, that we now unfortunately have.

01:02:21.000 I actually remember a couple, I think it was in 2024, there was a couple who called in and they were members.

01:02:28.000 They called him on AMA and they were asking Charlie a question, but they told him about how they were coming to HQ to be ballot chasers from California.

01:02:37.000 And Charlie was like, You have to come to the studio. 0.87

01:02:39.000 It was, I think, their 20 year anniversary when they came.

01:02:42.000 And so they got to come not only be ballot chasers, but they also had an amazing tour of the studio.

01:02:47.000 Charlie gave them the tour of the studio.

01:02:49.000 They were so sweet.

01:02:50.000 I actually had one of them, one of the ballot chasers came by yesterday that DM'd me and said, Hey, I'm going to be training for ballot chasing.

01:02:58.000 Can I come say hi?

01:02:59.000 I said, Yeah, of course.

01:03:01.000 You never know what happened.

01:03:02.000 Yeah, she was in the studio yesterday.

01:03:03.000 I'm willing to help.

01:03:04.000 Come be a ballot chaser in Arizona or New Hampshire or Nevada and help us win the midterms.

01:03:09.000 All right, next question.

01:03:10.000 We've got, who is it?

01:03:12.000 Is it David?

01:03:13.000 Yes.

01:03:14.000 David, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.

01:03:15.000 Please unmute yourself.

01:03:17.000 How are we doing today?

01:03:18.000 I'm doing great.

01:03:20.000 Good.

01:03:20.000 How about you, sir?

01:03:21.000 I'm doing okay.

01:03:23.000 My question is we're in California.

01:03:27.000 What do you think about the veteran who lost his life?

01:03:35.000 With the Trump flags.

01:03:36.000 Yeah.

01:03:39.000 And when we as conservatives kind of swing back and we run into violence, because I see you guys deal with that a lot.

01:03:49.000 Yeah, well, we just had a report yesterday of somebody who was arrested in San Antonio for making threats against Erica Kirk in our event.

01:03:58.000 We've been monitoring that very closely, I want to assure you.

01:04:00.000 So if you saw those news reports, please know.

01:04:03.000 We have every confidence that that event is going to be extraordinarily safe.

01:04:08.000 We've got Great security precautions in place, monitoring all the threats as we always do.

01:04:13.000 We've got great partners in law enforcement, federally and locally.

01:04:16.000 So, all that is good.

01:04:18.000 But, yeah, I mean, it's an unfortunate reality of our daily life that we have to be aware of crazy people doing crazy things, whether they're motivated from bad actors online or just political disagreements.

01:04:30.000 There is no doubt that the left is getting more and more violent, and the rise of assassination culture is ever present.

01:04:37.000 David has asked about this incident that happened in Southern California.

01:04:42.000 Where a veteran who was sort of known, it turns out, in the neighborhood for what they called the Trump House.

01:04:48.000 Put lots of flags out, was very proud about his support of the president.

01:04:48.000 Yeah.

01:04:51.000 Big pro Trump House.

01:04:52.000 Big pro Trump House.

01:04:53.000 He got assaulted by an individual.

01:04:58.000 The suspect, also a veteran.

01:04:58.000 Navy veteran.

01:05:00.000 They've been reporting on that fellow.

01:05:03.000 It appears the suspect is Thomas Caleb Butler.

01:05:07.000 And he apparently had a history of violence, including towards his own family.

01:05:07.000 Yep.

01:05:12.000 I'm sure Jack. 0.81

01:05:13.000 Pasobic would make much of the fact that there's a photo of him wearing a Star Wars shirt.

01:05:16.000 We heard that picture.

01:05:17.000 That's the one that's going around.

01:05:20.000 And he played with Legos, apparently.

01:05:22.000 So he was a big Lego guy and a big Star Wars guy.

01:05:25.000 I don't know that there's any connection to those things.

01:05:28.000 Jack was calling for a boycott of Star Wars, so he likes that fact.

01:05:31.000 I don't see any necessary connection to it.

01:05:33.000 But he had a long history of mental health problems.

01:05:37.000 And the other thing that's interesting about this story and why I'm not jumping to conclusions, why I'm not tweeting out a storm about it, is that apparently.

01:05:44.000 It's been reported that he liked the Trump house and was positive about the Trump house at some point, and that he also was more on the conservative side, at least historically.

01:05:55.000 Now, the interesting part here is that he, the wife, I guess the victim's wife tried to intervene. 0.65

01:06:04.000 He started hurling abuse at her, shouting at her, and called her a pedophile or a pedophile protector, one of the two. 0.91

01:06:12.000 So that makes me think it's all some sort of like Epstein brain. 0.64

01:06:17.000 Warp thing.

01:06:17.000 It could be.

01:06:18.000 And a lot of these people, there's just a lot of very troubled people.

01:06:21.000 And that's why we talk more generally why it's so irresponsible what a lot of leaders in this country have done.

01:06:28.000 When we talked about this with ICE, for example, when if Democrats or Republicans, but if politicians go out and say our leaders are the equivalent of Nazis, ICE is the Gestapo, they're trying to do a new Holocaust, this Epstein class, they're abducting children and they're cannibalizing them, some of the insane stuff they've said, they know that they're not being literal.

01:06:54.000 A lot of people know they're not being literal, but especially vulnerable individuals.

01:06:59.000 Will take that a lot more literally. 0.88

01:07:01.000 We've seen that with the transgender motivated shooters. 0.99

01:07:04.000 That seems to have played a role in tragically what happened to Charlie. 0.81

01:07:08.000 That these people hear these things that if we don't want to mutilate kids, that means we're perpetrating a genocide.

01:07:13.000 And when you say that to unstable people, they will think, well, I don't like genocide.

01:07:17.000 I need to stop the genocide.

01:07:19.000 I'm going to pick up a gun and use it.

01:07:21.000 And we absolutely need to call out all rhetoric of that nature because it can destroy this country.

01:07:30.000 Ourselves as individuals, as always, there's no substitute for just being ready and being prepared yourself.

01:07:36.000 In red states, you're allowed to.

01:07:38.000 I'm highly armed.

01:07:39.000 Yeah, you're allowed to have guns in your home.

01:07:40.000 You should have guns in your home because the police can't get there that fast.

01:07:45.000 Yeah, the cops might not get there.

01:07:47.000 Or I used to not have a gun.

01:07:50.000 And what changed my mind was when the Floyd riots happened in Minneapolis and the police pulled out of downtown Minneapolis and they just ditched it and they let a few blocks just get burned down.

01:08:02.000 People lost their homes, lost their businesses, and the cops just didn't show up.

01:08:05.000 They gave up, they abandoned it.

01:08:07.000 And I thought to myself, I will never be caught in a situation where I am helpless because the police have abandoned me, period.

01:08:16.000 And that's a good mentality to have. 1.00

01:08:18.000 Mike's a big fan of the rooftop Koreans. 0.98

01:08:21.000 Rooftop Koreans.

01:08:23.000 It's not that we despise the police, it's not that we want to get rid of police, but we have to remember that the left does like to get rid of police.

01:08:29.000 The left does like to create anarchy and to unleash mobs on people.

01:08:33.000 And Sometimes the only person who can stand up to a mob and protect your family is yourself.

01:08:37.000 Well, I will just say, we already were armed in our home, but ever since bringing home our baby, I'm like, we have to have ready for any situation.

01:08:46.000 If anyone were to come into my house, I know they would not be okay.

01:08:51.000 My husband would not tolerate that.

01:08:53.000 She is a Taylor Swift fan, but she is based.

01:08:56.000 Don't let that fool you.

01:08:56.000 We exist.

01:08:58.000 Elizabeth, you're up next.

01:09:00.000 Unmute yourself.

01:09:01.000 Michael said my baby is armed.

01:09:02.000 Yes.

01:09:03.000 Hi, everybody.

01:09:03.000 How are you today?

01:09:04.000 Doing well.

01:09:05.000 Thanks, Elizabeth.

01:09:06.000 How are you?

01:09:07.000 Well, thank you. 0.76

01:09:08.000 The reason that I was calling is the Judge Diana Hagan in Utah stepped down on May 8th.

01:09:18.000 She was credibly accused of having an affair with lead counsel David Raymond.

01:09:23.000 They were working on the redistricting case, and we lost a seat to Democrats in that.

01:09:28.000 And also, I had questions about Harkin Ryder v. Hochel, where they redid the primaries in August just for the congressional seats.

01:09:37.000 So, my first one is with the Utah case.

01:09:40.000 That's obvious corruption. 0.82

01:09:42.000 Can we get that overturned based on the fact that she was having an affair with the league counsel?

01:09:47.000 And the Harkender v. Hokel case, they found that the original congressional seats were wrong and they had to redo them.

01:09:55.000 And so they did a second primary in August just for the congressional seats.

01:09:59.000 Could that be something that we could do in other states?

01:10:04.000 I've heard about this Utah case.

01:10:05.000 Yeah, that's very interesting.

01:10:07.000 And that is all true.

01:10:08.000 What you said, the judge did end up resigning in the, you know, there, Governor Cox and a lot of other state level leaders, I think even Mike Lee, have called for an independent investigation.

01:10:19.000 But I'm being told credibly that no, we cannot overturn the current court ordered congressional redistricting map for 2026.

01:10:27.000 I don't know if that's a legal issue or a timing issue.

01:10:31.000 You could expect that those will get redone for 2028, though.

01:10:34.000 And so it's too late for 2026 for whatever reason.

01:10:38.000 I will poke some holes in that and see.

01:10:40.000 But that's what I'm being told.

01:10:41.000 Because when I saw that news come out, I instantly, candidly fired off text messages to everybody in Utah that I knew and asked, can we get this overturned?

01:10:48.000 And they said it's too late.

01:10:49.000 Could they be disbarred?

01:10:51.000 Could she be disbarred?

01:10:53.000 And the lawyer?

01:10:54.000 Yeah, I mean, it's a process.

01:10:55.000 Absolutely.

01:10:56.000 Depends on Utah's state process.

01:10:57.000 Yeah, it's probably going through the process.

01:10:59.000 That's why they want to do the independent investigation, probably to come up with some findings that they could then leverage to exact some justice and accountability there.

01:11:06.000 Yeah, and actually, in a state like Utah, I would have some faith that it would actually get done.

01:11:10.000 Yeah, and even if we can't overturn it directly, it's possible that they'll, it seems like they're going to possibly just repopulate the Supreme Court, change their Supreme Court rules to get a new result if they can bring it before it again.

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01:13:39.000 All right, our next question is.

01:13:43.000 It's actually, I want me to read it.

01:13:44.000 So here you go.

01:13:44.000 This is from Mick.

01:13:45.000 He said, I asked about how conservatives have struggled with having cultural icons until very recently.

01:13:49.000 This week, several artists dropped out of performing at the America 250 Festival.

01:13:54.000 I think they call it the State Fair.

01:13:55.000 Yeah, the Great American State Fair.

01:13:57.000 Yeah, State Fair.

01:13:58.000 And many of those names were from yesteryear.

01:14:00.000 With your experience hosting the All American Halftime Show, can you give some inside advice to those planning an event like that and keeping the artists on board?

01:14:08.000 Okay, this is a really big topic right now on social media.

01:14:11.000 So it looks like Martina McBride and Bret Michaels, Bret Michaels, Commodore, Morris Day, Young MC, and Martina McBride have all dropped out so far.

01:14:21.000 Flo Rida and Vanilla Ice are still in.

01:14:23.000 Oh boy.

01:14:24.000 If you're interested in those, head on down.

01:14:26.000 Ice, Ice, baby.

01:14:27.000 Yeah.

01:14:27.000 So my take on this is very simple.

01:14:31.000 We did host the All American Halftime show, but I will tell you, it was hard.

01:14:36.000 It was really hard.

01:14:38.000 Lining up the artists was hard.

01:14:40.000 We would get a yes from some artists, and then their managers would get involved, and they were like, don't go up against them.

01:14:45.000 The big bad football league, and they don't want that because it could cause them problems down the line.

01:14:49.000 So you have to kind of respect that.

01:14:50.000 You have to work with the artists that you can work with.

01:14:53.000 And I'll say it again Kid Rock has my undying support.

01:14:57.000 I'm a huge fan now because he just had the guts to do it.

01:15:02.000 And not many people do have the guts to do it. 0.53

01:15:04.000 Now, when it comes to this state fair, what really is appalling to me, to your point, is that a lot of these guys are washed up has-beens, stars from yesteryear's, and we're still getting the Run around from them.

01:15:16.000 They're still telling us, oh, I can't get more.

01:15:18.000 I thought this was nonpartisan and all this stuff.

01:15:20.000 Well, it is. 1.00

01:15:21.000 It's a celebration of the country, you idiots. 1.00

01:15:23.000 And so we shouldn't have to be prostrating ourselves as conservatives before the altar of pop culture to like throw us your crumbs, please, please, please. 1.00

01:15:32.000 What we should do is it should be a celebration of Americana.

01:15:35.000 I don't care if the artists are famous.

01:15:37.000 Give me banjo players.

01:15:38.000 Give me bluegrass.

01:15:39.000 They should just get not famous performers.

01:15:42.000 That's what I'm saying.

01:15:43.000 Screw these guys.

01:15:44.000 I don't think you need to get star power for something like this.

01:15:47.000 I think.

01:15:48.000 Honestly, there's probably a lot of criminally underrated and underappreciated people, especially, yeah, you mentioned banjo players.

01:15:54.000 You can probably find a virtuoso banjo player, fiddle player, someone who, stuff that's very associated with classic America, and you can probably get them, put them up there, and they'll just kill it, and everyone will think, that was awesome, that was really cool.

01:16:07.000 I don't usually see something like that versus getting these guys out.

01:16:11.000 But it's been part of the struggle with the 250th anniversary, and we got put in a tough spot.

01:16:17.000 One of the things that we got stuck with is they started America 250 a decade ago.

01:16:22.000 To prep for this.

01:16:23.000 But then the lead up to this, it was we had four years of Biden during the George Floyd era.

01:16:28.000 They staffed it full of people who they're like, you know what, 250 years of America should be a chance to do. 0.63

01:16:33.000 Let's celebrate white guilt.

01:16:34.000 Let's talk about how America is bad and everyone should feel really bad.

01:16:37.000 So they created this Freedom 250 thing to very accelerated try to make fun stuff people would actually like, like the big state fair.

01:16:45.000 They're doing that IndyCar race in DC.

01:16:47.000 The UFC?

01:16:48.000 Yeah, the UFC.

01:16:49.000 So more fun stuff that really vibes with the American public.

01:16:52.000 But it's short notice.

01:16:54.000 They have less money than they really deserve to have.

01:16:57.000 It's a bummer.

01:16:58.000 I talked to my parents about what the bicentennial was like in 1976, and they said it was like it was the 4th of July all year long, just in the little touches that really stood out.

01:17:09.000 My dad remembered that they painted the fire hydrants in his town, the American flag, to mark the bicentennial.

01:17:14.000 Right.

01:17:14.000 Well, I think that I have two things.

01:17:17.000 One, I would love to know you talked about how this started under a different administration.

01:17:20.000 If that was the situation we were dealing with, and they were.

01:17:23.000 Pose to host America 250, Freedom 250.

01:17:28.000 I wonder who would line up to celebrate there because it's not even like they are wanting to celebrate America.

01:17:33.000 It's a lot about we want to change America.

01:17:35.000 We don't like the way America is negative, negative, negative.

01:17:39.000 So I wonder who would even want to be there celebrating 250 years of America.

01:17:42.000 It'd probably be a festival of crying liberal tears that only white people can succeed in this country.

01:17:50.000 We could get a benediction from Reverend Wright and he could do us a whole lot of things. 0.67

01:17:53.000 It'd probably be more of a reprimand.

01:17:55.000 What word am I saying?

01:17:56.000 Reprimand?

01:17:57.000 Yes, then it would be a celebration.

01:17:59.000 Yeah.

01:18:00.000 So that would not be a celebration.

01:18:01.000 I think whatever issues we have, one of the things, and Charlie was very excited about this, was that we were having the World Cup, we're having the 250th anniversary, we're having the Olympics.

01:18:01.000 We dodged it.

01:18:10.000 It's a big run of big America pageantry celebration, and it would have just been excruciating to have Kamala Harris as president for all three of those things.

01:18:20.000 And we should say, just really quickly, you know, Spin Magazine seems to be the starting point for a lot of this controversy.

01:18:27.000 They called it a Trump sort of aligned event or Trump backed event.

01:18:31.000 It's not.

01:18:32.000 To Blake's point, this is a commission that's been put together that has liberals on it, has Democrats on it, has conservatives on it, right?

01:18:38.000 And these were lower tiered people.

01:18:40.000 Here's what I would say.

01:18:42.000 I am not going to.

01:18:43.000 Any of these.

01:18:44.000 Name me all the acts that dropped out Bret Michaels, Martina McBride. 1.00

01:18:49.000 Loser. 1.00

01:18:50.000 Hey, Martina. 0.98

01:18:51.000 I know one of her songs back in the day.

01:18:53.000 The Commodorus. 0.99

01:18:55.000 I know what losers it is. 0.99

01:18:56.000 I'm sorry. 0.97

01:18:57.000 Morris Day and Young MC. 0.98

01:18:59.000 All losers. 1.00

01:19:01.000 I will never. 0.99

01:19:02.000 Not that I really do, to be perfectly honest.

01:19:04.000 But if you are a fan of these people, stop supporting their music.

01:19:07.000 Absolute cowardice. 1.00

01:19:09.000 Moral cowards. 0.99

01:19:11.000 This is an event for the whole country. 0.99

01:19:12.000 It's supposed to bring people together.

01:19:13.000 Instead, you've used it as an opportunity to humiliate the country.

01:19:16.000 And embarrass everyone.

01:19:18.000 Up yours.

01:19:18.000 That's my personal opinion.

01:19:20.000 But yeah, that's my big take.

01:19:22.000 Screw trying to get in tight with these has-beens of these stars of yesterday. 0.99

01:19:27.000 No, we're not going to be told what to do by you losers. 0.99

01:19:30.000 Okay? 0.99

01:19:31.000 Get some people that celebrate the country.

01:19:34.000 I don't care what it is.

01:19:35.000 Get line dancing, get banjo players, bluegrass, get jazz performers, get anybody that will do it and just celebrate great music.

01:19:42.000 Get great, great music.

01:19:44.000 We don't care if we know your name. 0.98

01:19:46.000 This needs to be about America, not about these losers. 0.99

01:19:48.000 That's my opinion. 0.98

01:19:49.000 Well, think about it.

01:19:50.000 It's called the Great American State Fair.

01:19:51.000 There's so much more to a state fair than just, like, they might have a concert at night, but there's, it's about being together.

01:19:57.000 It's about food.

01:19:58.000 Yes.

01:19:59.000 It's about family, fun, being outside, just tradition.

01:20:04.000 It's, there's so much more to a state fair.

01:20:05.000 It's so last minute, but this is a nimble administration.

01:20:08.000 They should do some sort of Great American deep fry competition.

01:20:11.000 What is the best food you can deep fry?

01:20:14.000 Deep fried butter.

01:20:15.000 Deep fried butter.

01:20:16.000 Oreos.

01:20:16.000 Deep fried.

01:20:17.000 Yeah, so deep fried Oreos.

01:20:17.000 We've seen deep fried Oreos.

01:20:19.000 We've seen deep fried hot dogs, but we need, like, Deep fry an entire hamburger with all of the.

01:20:24.000 I'm sure that has already happened.

01:20:26.000 Deep fry.

01:20:26.000 Deep fry Eggs Benedict.

01:20:28.000 Deep fry.

01:20:30.000 I don't know what it is.

01:20:31.000 Anyways, that's my take, and I'm sticking to it. 0.95

01:20:34.000 I literally have nothing but loathing and condemnation for the cowards that are embarrassing the country. 0.94

01:20:41.000 But you know what? 0.97

01:20:41.000 Moving on. 0.97

01:20:42.000 Moving on.

01:20:44.000 We have an America to celebrate, and this is still the greatest country in the history of the planet Earth.

01:20:48.000 And I don't care that these people think we're systemically oppressive.

01:20:53.000 They're.

01:20:53.000 They're wrong.

01:20:55.000 They're historically inaccurate.

01:20:56.000 They don't know what they're talking about.

01:20:58.000 So that's my spiel.

01:21:00.000 We have Maddie.

01:21:00.000 Who we got next?

01:21:01.000 Maddie, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.

01:21:03.000 Please unmute yourself, Maddie.

01:21:05.000 Hi.

01:21:05.000 I actually have two questions, if that's okay.

01:21:08.000 Yeah.

01:21:08.000 Sure.

01:21:09.000 So I'm actually going to WLS next week.

01:21:13.000 Great.

01:21:14.000 I was just curious if you knew if there's going to be any Bible study or worship event, something like that.

01:21:21.000 Yes, I will be there.

01:21:23.000 I'll see you there.

01:21:24.000 I said earlier that none of these people will see my baby.

01:21:26.000 If you're at WLS, you might.

01:21:27.000 Because she'll be with me.

01:21:29.000 It's a girls' event. 0.98

01:21:29.000 Yeah, it's a girls' event. 0.98

01:21:30.000 It's her first one.

01:21:31.000 I have to bring her.

01:21:32.000 At this event, there are so many babies.

01:21:34.000 That's why I was like, this is the perfect conference to bring her to.

01:21:37.000 It's so many moms, kids, friends.

01:21:41.000 It's so sweet to just see everyone getting along together.

01:21:44.000 But yes, there will be worship on Sunday morning and faith based speakers on Sunday.

01:21:49.000 I think, honestly, I'm really excited.

01:21:51.000 I'm also not only bringing my baby, I'm bringing my mom.

01:21:53.000 Because I was like, Mom, I have to work.

01:21:55.000 So you can take my baby and enjoy the conference.

01:21:58.000 But, you know, we have.

01:22:00.000 Erica, Kaylee McNaney, Judge Shanine, Alex Clark, Allie Bistucky, Riley Gaines, Dana Loesch, Savannah Crisley, Kristen Hawkins, so many more.

01:22:10.000 And it is so fun.

01:22:11.000 Is this your first time?

01:22:13.000 It'll actually be my second.

01:22:15.000 Okay.

01:22:16.000 Okay.

01:22:16.000 Well, I think it's, I really am happy with the way the event is going.

01:22:21.000 This is our biggest endeavor.

01:22:22.000 It's our biggest endeavor.

01:22:22.000 Yeah, it's really holistic, empowered, redeemed.

01:22:26.000 I think that's the slogan.

01:22:27.000 And it's really being able to see the way that WLS has kind of transformed over the years.

01:22:33.000 And I've been watching all of Charlie's speeches back the last couple weeks leading up to WLS and just seeing all the different topics that he covered and how the event has transformed.

01:22:42.000 I'm really excited.

01:22:43.000 I think it'll be great.

01:22:44.000 Yep.

01:22:44.000 It's going to be great.

01:22:45.000 She had a second question, right?

01:22:46.000 Yep.

01:22:46.000 Yeah.

01:22:46.000 What's your second question?

01:22:48.000 I was curious do you think women voters are going to hurt the Republican Party more than usual in the midterms, just with how many men I know staying home instead of voting? 1.00

01:23:00.000 I mean, it's definitely tough. 1.00

01:23:01.000 This is a thing Charlie always said. 0.94

01:23:03.000 Struggled about, fought for, he pointed out women are more likely to just, they're good at checking boxes. 0.99

01:23:10.000 They're good at fulfilling obligations compared to men. 1.00

01:23:12.000 And one of those obligations is voting.

01:23:14.000 So young women are more likely to vote.

01:23:16.000 And we also know they're more likely to vote Democrat.

01:23:19.000 In fact, as much as, hey, we've made of young men turning to the right, a lot of it is young men have moved five points to the right.

01:23:27.000 And young women in some elections, they've moved 10, 15, 20, 25 points to the left. 0.52

01:23:33.000 If you're an unmarried young woman, they're very left wing. 1.00

01:23:35.000 A lot of them still vote, and it could definitely be a hazard.

01:23:39.000 Well, and yeah, to Blake's point, they vote more often, more reliably, and they vote more and more left, and they've gotten more and more radical.

01:23:47.000 So, yeah, it is a problem.

01:23:48.000 It's a definite problem.

01:23:50.000 And I think it's doubly compounded because a lot of young men, if you look between Epstein and what's happened in Iran, they're giving in to nihilism. 0.63

01:23:59.000 And that's part of our job here is to say, don't give in to the black pilling and the doomerism.

01:24:04.000 Don't do that, young men.

01:24:06.000 Things are progressing in many ways, and this administration is head and shoulders above what Kamala would have been. 0.96

01:24:12.000 So don't give in to the black pilling.

01:24:14.000 Stay the course.

01:24:15.000 Keep the faith.

01:24:16.000 This country is worth fighting for. 0.72

01:24:18.000 So we need the men to show up because the women probably will. 1.00

01:24:21.000 And that's the sad reality of it. 0.99

01:24:23.000 And they're getting more and more radicalized.

01:24:24.000 I'm telling you, one of the reasons I love WLS is because it's not a feminist celebration conference.

01:24:30.000 There's some haters online that'll call it that.

01:24:32.000 It's not that at all.

01:24:33.000 It's like, how do I be a mother?

01:24:34.000 How do I raise my kids?

01:24:35.000 How do I be more godly?

01:24:38.000 And And how do we be more healthy as a country?

01:24:41.000 It's beautiful things.

01:24:43.000 So, anyways, come to WLS, check it out.

01:24:46.000 It's going to be very, very worthwhile. 1.00

01:24:47.000 We need our women to step up. 0.99

01:24:48.000 All right. 1.00

01:24:49.000 Next up, we have.

01:24:50.000 Oh, wait.

01:24:51.000 I wanted to say.

01:24:52.000 Really quickly, WLS question.

01:24:53.000 The WLS.

01:24:55.000 We have some really, really cute hats and shirts that are going to be on sale there.

01:24:59.000 Brand new merch.

01:25:00.000 Launching new merch.

01:25:00.000 There's going to be some WLS exclusive merch there, but we will have this hat there God Family Country and Forever Kirk.

01:25:07.000 Those are both on CharlieKirkStore.com.

01:25:10.000 And if you're not going to be at WLS, you can still get one.

01:25:12.000 They are really such nice quality.

01:25:16.000 We literally just got the boxes in my office like 10 minutes ago.

01:25:20.000 So, if you're at WLS, you can get these, but you can also get them at charliekirkstore.com.

01:25:26.000 Charliekirkstore.com, right?

01:25:29.000 I got the URL right.

01:25:30.000 Charliekirkstore.com.

01:25:32.000 You will not be disappointed.

01:25:33.000 Heidi, all the work she can handle.

01:25:35.000 She'll be getting those orders out to you all very soon.

01:25:37.000 Yes.

01:25:37.000 So, check it out.

01:25:38.000 All right.

01:25:39.000 Rain, you are on the Charlie Kirk Show.

01:25:41.000 Please unmute yourself.

01:25:42.000 Welcome.

01:25:43.000 Hey.

01:25:44.000 I'm so happy you called on me.

01:25:47.000 Okay, do y'all remember me?

01:25:48.000 I'm the one that had the bracelet after the Charlie Kirk Memorial.

01:25:52.000 Yes, yes.

01:25:53.000 Good to hear from you again, Rain.

01:25:54.000 Yes.

01:25:55.000 Get hey, okay, so I can't believe I'm asking this question, but I want to get involved so badly.

01:26:01.000 I want to help y'all with ballot chasing.

01:26:04.000 Great, so what are the prerequisites or what is the criteria?

01:26:09.000 Like, okay, so I have an emotional support animal, a little cavalier King Charles spaniel by the name, by the way.

01:26:16.000 Okay, um, so like, would it be okay if I brought my mom to the hotel room with Charlie?

01:26:24.000 Are you talking about volunteer?

01:26:26.000 I do.

01:26:27.000 I want to stay as long as I can.

01:26:29.000 I just don't want to be away from him.

01:26:32.000 And I would bring my mom with me.

01:26:33.000 I mean, we would drive from Baton Rouge, from Louisiana.

01:26:37.000 I want to help.

01:26:38.000 I want to get involved very badly.

01:26:40.000 That's amazing.

01:26:41.000 I love that.

01:26:42.000 So, yeah, we're going to be doing our volunteer efforts probably starting in September, October time period.

01:26:49.000 Would you want to come to Arizona?

01:26:52.000 Is that kind of what you're thinking?

01:26:53.000 Or Nevada or New Hampshire?

01:26:55.000 Probably with y'all over there.

01:26:57.000 Great.

01:26:58.000 Your dog will love October, Arizona weather.

01:27:01.000 Yeah.

01:27:01.000 So if you just go to the tpaction.com website, they have a fill out sign up form here.

01:27:10.000 Can I write this quick?

01:27:11.000 Yeah, tpaction.com.

01:27:14.000 Maybe our team, our crack team in the studio, can put tpaction.com there.

01:27:17.000 And you just click that.

01:27:19.000 Yep.

01:27:19.000 Tpaction.com.

01:27:20.000 There's a kind of a hamburger menu bar in the upper right hand corner.

01:27:25.000 Just click get involved.

01:27:27.000 Upper right, get involved.

01:27:29.000 Okay.

01:27:29.000 Yeah.

01:27:29.000 And it has a little sign up form.

01:27:31.000 And so, what are you interested in?

01:27:34.000 The options, and I'm going to read all the options just for those listening, all the things that you can get involved in become a precinct leader, join a TP action coalition.

01:27:41.000 So, we have like a mom's coalition, a ranchers' coalition, farmers' coalition, Hispanic coalition, all those kinds of things.

01:27:47.000 You could attend a turning point action event, becoming a poll watcher, joining Younger Republicans Club, getting involved with the county GOP, knocking doors for local candidates, become a precinct, register to vote, become a precinct chair, all these things.

01:28:00.000 So, you.

01:28:01.000 What would I register as to help y'all?

01:28:04.000 Yeah.

01:28:04.000 So, which.

01:28:06.000 So, you could do any of those, but probably knocking doors, it would be the box that you would check.

01:28:11.000 And then we'll get you in our volunteer pipeline.

01:28:15.000 And then when we're ready to get you in a hotel room and get you out, and yes, you could probably bring your, I mean, I haven't checked with Tyler yet.

01:28:21.000 I'm sure we've had this.

01:28:23.000 No, Tyler said yes, they're encouraged friends, families, babies, dogs.

01:28:26.000 Yep.

01:28:27.000 So, we'll take you all.

01:28:28.000 I'm there.

01:28:30.000 Yep.

01:28:30.000 So, tpaction.com, it's right there on the screen.

01:28:33.000 You can get involved.

01:28:34.000 And so, that is the same for rain, but it's the same for.

01:28:38.000 All of you watching, we know that there is tens of thousands of you watching all over the country.

01:28:42.000 Get involved today.

01:28:43.000 Go to tpaction.com.

01:28:45.000 Help us win.

01:28:46.000 And just a note here I love your spirit, Rain.

01:28:50.000 It's so encouraging because if you log online, sometimes you get a bunch of the Black Pill Blake types and you get the people that are, you know, the country's lost.

01:28:58.000 Blake's looking at me.

01:28:59.000 All right.

01:29:00.000 No, but here's the thing here, I was asked this question in an interview yesterday and it bears repeating.

01:29:06.000 The question was, you know, how do you filter through the noise?

01:29:10.000 Online.

01:29:11.000 And I would just simply suggest to you this you know the tree by its fruits.

01:29:15.000 You know who's doing good work because they want to build this country up.

01:29:18.000 They want to fight for this country.

01:29:20.000 They want to actually contribute to good things.

01:29:22.000 They want to get out in the field and knock doors.

01:29:24.000 They want to send text messages.

01:29:25.000 They want to send postcards.

01:29:27.000 All of these things are tremendously important because if you're building, if you're working towards something, you're part of the solution.

01:29:33.000 So be part of the solution.

01:29:34.000 Do not give in to the nihilism.

01:29:36.000 Do not give in to the dooming.

01:29:37.000 Do not give in to the blackpilling.

01:29:38.000 That is one of my repeat messages here.

01:29:40.000 You do not fight because you know you're going to win.

01:29:43.000 You fight because it's the right thing to do.

01:29:44.000 So thank you, right?

01:29:45.000 All right.

01:29:45.000 Really quick, real quick, we have one last question from Sam.

01:29:48.000 We're going to read it.

01:29:49.000 I am a college student, and many students I know hate the current administration.

01:29:52.000 They blame them for covering up Epstein, and they seem to forget the Biden administration held onto those files and did nothing for years.

01:29:59.000 How can the administration and the Republicans message better on this topic?

01:30:02.000 That's a very tough question because.

01:30:05.000 It's only a minute.

01:30:06.000 We only have a minute, and it is unfair.

01:30:07.000 President Trump has released a huge number of files, vastly more than any administration did before.

01:30:13.000 You can read incredibly embarrassing emails involving the former president of Harvard, involving Elon Musk, involving.

01:30:21.000 Les Wexner.

01:30:21.000 They've actually, a lot of people have been humiliated.

01:30:23.000 Some people have lost their jobs.

01:30:25.000 There's been a lot of transparency on this.

01:30:27.000 And we know, certainly, that the president himself is not involved in anything untoward because the Biden administration and the Obama administration had all of these files and didn't release anything and didn't charge President Trump or Donald Trump when he was not in the White House.

01:30:43.000 So we know there's nothing there.

01:30:45.000 Unfortunately, I think a lot of people, it's just in the zeitgeist.

01:30:48.000 People will repeat things that are false just because it feels fun to say, I guess.

01:30:54.000 I mean, It is the number one accusation that gets hurled at everybody now pedophile.

01:30:58.000 Pedophile.

01:30:59.000 It's critical pedo theory. 0.80

01:31:01.000 Pedophilia pervades the universe and all of our leaders. 0.94

01:31:04.000 It's a new form of brain rot. 0.92

01:31:05.000 It's a brain rot.

01:31:06.000 It's challenging.

01:31:07.000 Yeah, it is challenging, but we do need to keep messaging on it because a lot of people believe it.

01:31:11.000 Can't abandon it.

01:31:12.000 Do not blackpill. 0.73

01:31:17.000 For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to charliekirk.com.

The Charlie Kirk Show - May 29, 2026

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