The Charlie Kirk Show - Maintaining MAHA's Momentum

00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, it's on the Charlie Kirk Show.

00:00:01.000 Del Bigtree joins the program.

00:00:02.000 Make America healthy again.

00:00:04.000 And we dive into Bobby Kennedy's secured confirmation and more.

00:00:08.000 Then Mercy Schlapp from CPAC joins the show.

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00:00:24.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.

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00:01:22.000 Joining us now is a great friend, an amazing patriot, Del Bigtree.

00:01:27.000 Del, welcome to the program.

00:01:29.000 We did it, my friend.

00:01:30.000 Bobby Kennedy is the Secretary of Health and Human Services.

00:01:35.000 You know, first of all, God is good.

00:01:38.000 I just want to say that right off.

00:01:41.000 But my friend, you are amazing.

00:01:44.000 I don't know how many people know how much you really helped us with this lift, with the Maha movement, right when...

00:01:52.000 Robert Kennedy Jr. joined President Trump.

00:01:55.000 Of course, I was director of communications with Bobby.

00:01:58.000 I jumped out to start a super PAC right away so that we could start running ads and things to try and get the Kennedy voters over to President Trump.

00:02:07.000 And look, the DNC was playing all sorts of games.

00:02:10.000 After we had gotten on 50 state ballots, which was a Herculean task of signature gathering and everything else, you know, the DNC was trying to like bringing lawsuits to get us knocked off the ballot.

00:02:23.000 Then when Robert Kennedy Jr. joined President Trump, suddenly they started having lawsuits to keep us on the ballot, to keep Kennedy on the ballot because they knew that would divide the vote.

00:02:33.000 So it was a really wild moment where after supporting Bobby for the last two and a half years of my life, I then had to try to work to run ads and get on stages to convince those voters that were behind Robert Kennedy Jr. to go over and vote for President Trump.

00:02:50.000 And you and Turning Point were such a major part of helping us do that.

00:02:56.000 We had so, you know, no time.

00:02:58.000 And you had an audience we hadn't met, right?

00:03:01.000 You had that conservative audience that were wondering who is Robert Kennedy Jr. And so when you came in and really joined forces with us, with Maha, we just delivered numbers that nobody saw coming, you know?

00:03:14.000 And the big question, right, Charlie, is how much did we affect the vote?

00:03:18.000 I don't ever want to take away from President Trump what he achieved.

00:03:23.000 It's incredible.

00:03:24.000 He might have done it all on his own.

00:03:26.000 But what were the numbers they were talking about?

00:03:28.000 They talked about the youth vote, that young vote.

00:03:30.000 That was you.

00:03:31.000 They talked about where did all the moms, where did the gender gap go? 0.97

00:03:34.000 It's supposed to be a 20% gender gap with women. 1.00

00:03:37.000 It ended up being around 7%.

00:03:39.000 I think that the Maha Moms, the Maha Movement, with your help, we really delivered, if not the election, certainly the mandate.

00:03:47.000 And, you know, and pulling, you know, the entire national vote, I think, was huge.

00:03:52.000 But, brother, I can't thank you enough.

00:03:55.000 Miracles have worked because people like you were there and making it happen.

00:04:01.000 Del, thank you for those kind words.

00:04:03.000 And, you know, I'm really glad, by the way, for Senator Cassidy for his vote.

00:04:07.000 That was decisive.

00:04:08.000 I know there was a lot of back and forth, but I believe he made the right choice and he made the correct decision.

00:04:15.000 Del, what does this mean for our kids?

00:04:17.000 I mean, I believe this is one of the greatest steps forward, one of the great leap forwards for kids' health to be able to get to the bottom of the chronic disease epidemic, something that you and Bobby especially have now made a household term.

00:04:33.000 Five years ago, chronic disease epidemic, people said, what are you talking about?

00:04:37.000 I mean, we are now at a place where this is...

00:04:41.000 Market, full market saturation.

00:04:43.000 What does this confirmation and Bobby now being an HHS secretary mean for our kids?

00:04:50.000 You know, as we were running the presidential campaign for Robert Kennedy, I would say to the audiences, when Bobby steps into that White House, it will be...

00:05:00.000 That the people have spoken, meaning that there was no way the entire media was against Robert Kennedy Jr. The pharmaceutical industry, the largest, you know, funder of television and mainstream media as we know it, was against Robert Kennedy Jr. As it turned out, as we ran the race, the entire Democratic Party was against Robert Kennedy Jr. And I would even argue the World Economic Forum, the World Health Organization, and all of the globalists.

00:05:29.000 That are using health as a way to remove sovereignty of American citizens was against Robert Kennedy Jr. Now, of course, he didn't step in as president, but in many ways, it's even more profound that he took the most powerful health position in the world at HHS. There is no higher authority for health in the world.

00:05:50.000 Of course, America does most of the science and the studies that determines what the World Health Organization is going to say or even the NHS. The world follows us.

00:06:01.000 So what I've been saying to reporters out there that say, well, what can Robert Kennedy Jr. really do?

00:06:07.000 I said just a couple weeks ago, you're already seeing it with red dye number three being taken off the shelves and finally the FDA coming out against it.

00:06:16.000 Now, does that mean Robert Kennedy Jr. wasn't even in office yet?

00:06:19.000 But what it showed is that it's the pressure being brought by the attention of the people that you just pointed out, that Robert Kennedy Jr. represents...

00:06:28.000 That this many people, a voting body now, care about health so much, care about their children so much, that our regulatory agencies now know we're watching you.

00:06:38.000 So a red dye that was causing cancer and all sorts of learning disabilities is now off the shelves.

00:06:46.000 But after 10 years it was there.

00:06:48.000 What's different?

00:06:48.000 Is it Robert Kennedy Jr.?

00:06:50.000 I think even more so it's the fact that he has a mandate, that he has the country behind him.

00:06:55.000 So what is he going to do as he...

00:06:57.000 He has said he's going to bring radical transparency to our regulatory agencies.

00:07:02.000 We're about to find out what these companies, what the NIH, what the FDA, what the CDC, what do they actually know about the chemicals in our food?

00:07:11.000 They've been looking at the studies.

00:07:13.000 All we see is an ingredients list on the side of a box, but what do they know about that chemical that we can't even, you know, barely read the word?

00:07:20.000 We're going to find out that information.

00:07:22.000 It's going to be made public so that Turning Point and The High Wire, my other weekly talk show, and Maha, and the Maha podcast, and all of the thought leaders in health, we're going to start showing the people this is what...

00:07:37.000 Our regulatory agencies always knew.

00:07:39.000 This is how long the vaccines went through a safety trial.

00:07:43.000 This is what the ingredients are in them.

00:07:45.000 This is what we now know about the amount of injuries that are happening or not happening.

00:07:49.000 Same thing about drugs.

00:07:50.000 Same thing about fluoride in our water.

00:07:52.000 Robert Kennedy Jr. has never chosen one specific element, even though the mainstream media tries to say, oh, he's anti-vaccine.

00:08:00.000 He's pro-human health.

00:08:02.000 He has been his entire career, whether it's getting mercury out of our water or out of our air.

00:08:06.000 Or glyphosate, he has the largest lawsuits against glyphosate proving it causes non-Hodgkin's lymphoma.

00:08:13.000 We now have someone who's been fighting for the people his entire life, running the agencies.

00:08:18.000 He's been fighting in courtrooms.

00:08:20.000 So I think it's about that transparency.

00:08:22.000 And then the pressure from our...

00:08:25.000 Followers, you know, the people that watch your show, that watch my show, and so many like us, that pressure, and that is what's going to give that continued mandate for Robert Kennedy Jr. to change how we've been allowing all these chemicals into our air, into our food, into our water.

00:08:42.000 It's going to be great for our children, but it's going to be great for us, too.

00:08:46.000 So I want to talk about some of the smears against Bobby.

00:08:49.000 They call him anti-vaccine, which of course is not true.

00:08:52.000 In his book, he says that explicitly at the beginning and the end.

00:08:55.000 However, there are real questions we need to ask of why has the schedule gone from seven shots?

00:09:00.000 In the mid-1980s, seven vaccines were routinely given to kids between the ages of two for dipheria, tetanus, petrussis, measles, mumps, rubella, and polio.

00:09:10.000 Now we have over...

00:09:12.000 80 vaccines by the age of 18 and 70 plus doses for kids by the time they are two and a half years old.

00:09:20.000 What's going on here?

00:09:21.000 Well, first of all, you make a really good point because there's a lot of baby boomers that are like, oh my God, why is he going to? 0.98

00:09:27.000 Vaccines saved our lives.

00:09:29.000 You know, our grandparents did not have the same vaccine schedule.

00:09:32.000 They got eight to ten vaccines and they were compliant.

00:09:35.000 What happened was in 1986, when we took liability away from the manufacturers, basically the drug industry threatened Ronald Reagan and said, we're going to stop making all vaccines unless you protect us from liability.

00:09:49.000 And Ronald Reagan was reticent.

00:09:51.000 There's a lot of rules and laws that were set, all of which were broken.

00:09:54.000 We can get into the weeds on that another time, Charlie.

00:09:57.000 But imagine you took the pharmaceutical industry, which has some of the biggest lawsuits for lying about injury and death for their drugs.

00:10:05.000 I mean, just think of Fen-Pen or even Vioxx or Oxycontin lately, the lies that they put out.

00:10:11.000 And then when you finally sue them, you realize they always knew that these products had side effects.

00:10:16.000 They always knew it caused heart attacks or they always knew it was addictive.

00:10:20.000 We can't get to that information around the vaccine program because it's protected from lawsuit.

00:10:27.000 Well, once it's protected from lawsuit, what happened?

00:10:29.000 We went from the 10 vaccines, as you described, to this gold rush for the pharmaceutical industry to now, as you pointed out, 80 vaccines and growing.

00:10:37.000 And what Robert Kennedy Jr. and I have been saying after deep investigations, not a single vaccine on the childhood schedule ever went through a double-blind placebo trial.

00:10:49.000 Prior to licensure.

00:10:50.000 That is the only way to determine safety, and so they never determine safety.

00:10:54.000 This entire program is built on an assumption of safety.

00:10:57.000 There's never been a study that shows that it's healthier to take 80 vaccines compared to when we had 10. They've never compared those that get 80 vaccines to those that have none or some.

00:11:08.000 These are all the types of studies that need to be done now.

00:11:12.000 I've argued this.

00:11:13.000 We just want to have a comparative study.

00:11:16.000 Those that got all their vaccines compared to...

00:11:18.000 Those that got none.

00:11:19.000 Let's just find out.

00:11:20.000 Are there issues?

00:11:21.000 Are the unvaccinated really sicker? 0.95

00:11:23.000 I guarantee you, I'm pretty sure they're already doing those studies.

00:11:27.000 And the reason we're not seeing headlines about it is those studies aren't turning out the way they're supposed to.

00:11:32.000 That's an assumption I'm making.

00:11:33.000 But I know that the pharmaceutical industry would love for me to shut up because I've been talking about this for nearly 10 years.

00:11:40.000 They would definitely never wanted Robert Kennedy Jr. to be HHS secretary.

00:11:44.000 So, Charlie...

00:11:45.000 Doesn't it stand to reason if they could go into the databases that the CDC sits on of 10 million people and compare vaccinated to unvaccinated and just show the world, see, the vaccinated have less cancer.

00:11:57.000 They have less autism.

00:11:59.000 They have less ADD, ADHD. They have less multiple sclerosis and childhood cancers and all of these things that have been skyrocketing since this vaccine program went from 10 to 80. Don't you think they would publish that study?

00:12:11.000 Don't you think they would do that study if they could prove that that was the case?

00:12:15.000 I have to assume that study has been done and they're hiding it from the public.

00:12:19.000 Otherwise, they would have ended my career.

00:12:21.000 All they had to do is say, see, the vaccinated are healthier.

00:12:24.000 I'm not.

00:12:25.000 And to be clear, Robert Cain's here, I'm not against vaccines.

00:12:29.000 I'm just saying, why don't we know what the totality means?

00:12:32.000 Maybe we're giving too many all at one time.

00:12:35.000 Maybe there's things you're eating when you're getting the vaccine.

00:12:38.000 All I know is there's a list of side effects that I put out, and I just did a press conference that's gone viral right after I was in the Oval Office watching Robert Kennedy Jr. swear in.

00:12:48.000 But every vaccine comes with an insert with this many tiny written side effects that are really happening to people.

00:12:55.000 Why is it happening?

00:12:57.000 We aren't studying those people, and that's all Robert Kennedy Jr. wants to do.

00:13:01.000 Let's study them.

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00:14:06.000 Dale, do you have any numbers of how significant Bobby Kennedy's endorsement of Donald Trump was in this last election?

00:14:13.000 And talk about the power that now, in the most ironic way, a Kennedy is a cabinet secretary in a Republican administration and every Democrat voted against him.

00:14:23.000 It's really amazing.

00:14:26.000 We're just now starting to do some national polls, so I don't have exact numbers.

00:14:31.000 But like I said, I think that when you watch the polling go from what was supposed to be about a 20% gender gap in women down to 7%, I think you see a huge voting block there moving.

00:14:44.000 We tended to think that, you know, Bobby had about 10 million votes out there at least.

00:14:50.000 but I think his history will tell.

00:14:52.000 There's a lot of work to be done there, but you can feel the movement, right?

00:14:56.000 And that's really what matters, whether it comes down to numbers or not.

00:14:59.000 And also, I wanna just take a moment to thank President Trump, who has never backed off of this.

00:15:05.000 We were behind the scenes.

00:15:06.000 Everyone was telling us, don't join President Trump.

00:15:09.000 You can't trust him.

00:15:10.000 But Robert Kennedy Jr. said, you know, I met with him.

00:15:13.000 I got a feeling about this guy.

00:15:14.000 And I can tell you, standing in the Oval Office and watching Robert Kennedy Jr. swear in to feel the energy, these two very powerful warriors, the way that they, you know, communicate with each other, there's such mutual respect.

00:15:27.000 And I also want to point out that President Trump has been talking about vaccines and autism since he first ran for president the very first time.

00:15:35.000 So this is just really a follow-through, and he's saying it every day now.

00:15:40.000 I want answers.

00:15:41.000 I'm tired of the scientists saying we don't know what causes autism.

00:15:44.000 We don't know why 60% of our country has either an autoimmune or neurological disorder.

00:15:51.000 77% of our children can't get into the military because they're too sick to qualify.

00:15:56.000 We have the sickest nation in the world, the sickest generation of children we've ever seen. 0.56

00:16:02.000 And all of that, you know, we have a regulatory bias that says we don't know what's causing it.

00:16:06.000 Well, maybe it's the regulatory capture.

00:16:09.000 Maybe it's the fact that you're getting so much funding from the pharmaceutical industry, but also big ag, big food, big chemical.

00:16:15.000 That's what's about to change.

00:16:16.000 Robert Kennedy Jr. is not owned by any of those companies.

00:16:20.000 He's going to kick the money changers out and get scientists that are really just there for the American people.

00:16:26.000 So I think that that's major.

00:16:28.000 But I really want to point out that President Trump took a lot of heat and used a lot of, you know, thank God he's got the political capital, but it wasn't easy, right?

00:16:36.000 As you pointed out, I was sitting watching the vote with my brother sitting next to me.

00:16:42.000 We grew up progressive liberal Democrats from Boulder, Colorado.

00:16:46.000 I mean, I marched against Rocky Flats with my mom, who was a hippie. 0.88

00:16:50.000 That used to be the Democratic Party.

00:16:52.000 It used to be the crunchy granola hippie moms, you know, that were like, we were having vitamins and eating, you know, macrobiotic food and vegetarians when we were kids. 0.73

00:17:02.000 All of a sudden, that entire, we were watching as every Democrat was just voting, no, no, every Republican, yes.

00:17:09.000 And I turned to my brother and I said, The Democratic Party's just turned on our way of life, which is clean water, clean food, clean air, and now it's the Republican Party just expanded, just grew.

00:17:21.000 All of natural health and healthy living is now in the Republican Party, and I'm happy to be a part of it.

00:17:26.000 It's really beautiful to see.

00:17:28.000 So, Del, where do we go from here?

00:17:29.000 What are the marching orders for our audience?

00:17:31.000 Minute and a half remaining.

00:17:33.000 I would just say, look, Maha is a movement.

00:17:35.000 There are so many great people out there that are representing it.

00:17:38.000 Charlie, I know that you're going to be having Maha initiatives. 0.94

00:17:41.000 We're going to be following what Robert Kennedy Jr. has.

00:17:43.000 The Make America Healthy Again executive orders are coming.

00:17:47.000 The commission is being put together.

00:17:49.000 He's finally going to get all of the great scientists, the heads of FDA and HHS and EPA and USDA all together to start working.

00:17:59.000 But it's our job, Charlie, to make America healthy again.

00:18:02.000 We've got to figure out how to inspire people to eat better, to work out, to sleep better.

00:18:06.000 So I'm starting Maha.io.

00:18:09.000 I mean, it's just started, so there's not much there.

00:18:11.000 But one of the things I want to do is make a database where you can find all of those health practitioners that don't make drugs your first choice, but maybe a lifestyle shift.

00:18:20.000 We need to get into the business of making people healthy.

00:18:23.000 We have a sick care system. 0.99

00:18:24.000 We don't have a health care system.

00:18:26.000 So I hope all of us will work together to make a true health care system, which is about...

00:18:31.000 Staying healthy, living our best lives, getting the chemicals out of our children's foods.

00:18:36.000 We're working on a school lunch program.

00:18:38.000 We want to have a Maha school lunch program and also just media.

00:18:43.000 I love that you're out there.

00:18:44.000 All of us, all the thought leaders that have been talking to people, we've got to inspire.

00:18:49.000 Maybe we start having groups meet in every city like, you know, Alcoholics Anonymous, but we get together and talk about how we're getting healthy every week, how we're working towards our best life.

00:19:00.000 American exceptionalism is real.

00:19:01.000 We've got to become the healthiest nation in the world.

00:19:04.000 Lead.

00:19:04.000 We are the beacons of light and hope, of freedom.

00:19:07.000 We just dodged a bullet.

00:19:08.000 We're not being censored.

00:19:09.000 This is our time, Charlie.

00:19:11.000 All the people should be so excited.

00:19:13.000 And we should...

00:19:14.000 We should be competing with the rest of the world to say that we can be the healthiest.

00:19:17.000 We can be the greatest nation in the world again.

00:19:19.000 Donald Trump's doing that as far as the economics and all that.

00:19:22.000 Robert Kennedy Jr. is going to lead the health revolution.

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00:20:31.000 Joining us now is Merslady Schlapp.

00:20:34.000 Great friend, senior fellow at CPAC, and they have a big event coming up this weekend.

00:20:39.000 Mercy, great to see you.

00:20:40.000 Thanks for joining the program.

00:20:42.000 Tell us all about what's happening this weekend.

00:20:44.000 Okay, Charlie.

00:20:44.000 Well, first of all, we're going to miss you, but we're going to get you next year.

00:20:47.000 That's going to be my goal, okay?

00:20:49.000 We're going to make this happen.

00:20:50.000 We were kind of thinking back of, like, when you came and spoke at CPAC. I think one of the years, 2018. My goodness, Charlie, you don't age.

00:20:58.000 Like, what's the deal here?

00:21:00.000 What's going on?

00:21:01.000 Like, I need your jeans.

00:21:02.000 So, you know, we're excited to, of course, we're excited to get the event launched this week.

00:21:08.000 But yes, we're going to definitely miss you.

00:21:11.000 We would love for you to join us.

00:21:12.000 So if things change, let us know.

00:21:14.000 Well, tell us all about it, Mercy.

00:21:16.000 You got the great event.

00:21:17.000 I'm guessing the big man will be there and a lot of cabinet officials.

00:21:20.000 So tell us what you have in store.

00:21:22.000 Well, first of all, as you know, and you were such a big part of...

00:21:26.000 Getting the president elected and all the efforts that you all have been involved in, it's really about America is back on track.

00:21:33.000 I mean, that's the focus.

00:21:35.000 There is this moment where it's going to be celebratory.

00:21:38.000 Obviously, we've got such an incredible list of government officials from the White House, cabinet members, Vice President J.D. Vance, who actually will be announcing shortly here, some of the tech titans of folks from the business world,

00:21:54.000 including You know, high-level individuals from Bitcoin and AI and also, you know, the everyday Americans, those stories that I think those grassroots activists who I think are so critical in our movement, who are the ones changing their communities.

00:22:09.000 And, you know, we're looking forward to having President Trump join us as well.

00:22:14.000 Really, I think, got his start at CPAC when he wasn't what you would say, quote unquote, a politician, although I still don't think he's a politician.

00:22:21.000 He's just simply just such a strong leader in this MAGA movement, in this American movement that we're seeing.

00:22:28.000 So it's going to be his, I believe I'm up to 14 times that the president has spoken at CPAC. That's amazing.

00:22:34.000 So as, you know, it's a home for him.

00:22:36.000 It's where the people come together, you know, people who love the president, who then take his directive, take his energy.

00:22:44.000 And then they go back into their communities as well.

00:22:48.000 And more so is, yes, we've got to be celebratory.

00:22:50.000 But as you know, Charlie, we've got to keep fighting.

00:22:53.000 I mean, this battle is not over.

00:22:55.000 The left, the globalist, the communist will regroup.

00:22:59.000 And they are regrouping right now.

00:23:01.000 And so we've got to ensure that the president's vision for America, for keeping and really maintaining a strong and prosperous America, and a strong presence where the globe is looking at us.

00:23:13.000 for solutions in solving the major problems.

00:23:17.000 We know that we're doing the work that President Trump has set forward and that we're able to get it done, not only at the federal level, but obviously at the state and local level as well.

00:23:27.000 I mean, that's going to be critical.

00:23:28.000 So again, big celebration, but we've got to roll up our sleeves.

00:23:33.000 There's a lot of work that has to happen.

00:23:35.000 And while he's doing it at warp speed, we've got our part to do as well.

00:23:40.000 So, Mercy, you were part of the first Trump administration, and contrast, I mean, you guys did phenomenal work, but the pace at which this administration is operating is even quicker than the other one.

00:23:51.000 So kind of compare and contrast that.

00:23:54.000 I mean, the first one, you guys did some amazing stuff, but it seems as if this new team has the media on defense.

00:24:01.000 There is no question.

00:24:02.000 Let me tell you something.

00:24:03.000 I am incredibly impressed.

00:24:06.000 With the White House operations, and I do believe Susie Wiles as chief of staff has been the best pick the president could have made because she basically keeps the ship in line.

00:24:17.000 She's very much saying we're not going to have leaks out of the White House.

00:24:20.000 I mean, Charlie, you remember this during the first term, the battles we had within that White House of people leaking on each other, trying to kill each other off.

00:24:28.000 Then you've got the FBI going after you with the Russian hoax and all these special counsels against President Trump.

00:24:34.000 And then on top of that, You had even cabinet members who were basically against President Trump.

00:24:40.000 And what I couldn't understand is like, you're there to serve the president of the United States.

00:24:45.000 You are there to ensure that his agenda is implemented to help the American people.

00:24:51.000 And so I think President Trump this time around...

00:24:54.000 I think with everything that he has gone through, from the weaponization of the DOJ, with the two assassination attempts, and I think the fact that he knew, like, what can we do this time around to make sure we don't run into this problem?

00:25:10.000 And part of it is, I think, this shock and awe strategy, which is that of Basically, inundating the media with so much information that they simply cannot keep up.

00:25:22.000 And it's not just the president.

00:25:23.000 You've got the Vice President J.D. Vance in Europe, Secretary Marco Rubio right now in Israel, Secretary Pete Hegseth traveling abroad.

00:25:30.000 He has deployed these warriors across the globe and here in America to basically Talk about the American vision, to talk about what the strategy is to bring peace to the globe, and then also to ensure that we have here a safe and prosperous America for all Americans, which is tackling these really huge problems that were ignored by the previous administration.

00:25:53.000 I gotta tell you, I feel like a proud mama.

00:25:57.000 I feel like just watching these guys Really just work 24-7, get the job done.

00:26:03.000 The president has a very focused vision.

00:26:06.000 You talk to him all the time.

00:26:08.000 They know that the moment is now, that this is the moment to use up the political capital to basically ensure that the president pushes back on activist judges, pushes back against these incredibly biased so-called journalists.

00:26:26.000 And really, it's the alternative media.

00:26:28.000 It's the work that you're doing, the work we do at CPAC, and these other outlets that people are saying, you know what?

00:26:35.000 I'm going to turn off.

00:26:36.000 I don't need to watch CNN. I don't need to read the Washington Post.

00:26:40.000 I'm going to get my news somewhere else.

00:26:41.000 In closing here, Mercy, talk about the event this weekend and the call to action and how it will empower the grassroots.

00:26:48.000 And final details, is it back at the Gaylord?

00:26:50.000 Is that right after all of the circumnavigation back in the Gaylord?

00:26:54.000 Is that correct?

00:26:56.000 Yeah, well, this is, I think, our last year back at the Gaylord because the space is just getting too small.

00:27:01.000 And so we are excited about...

00:27:04.000 Just getting it launched on Wednesday.

00:27:06.000 We're kicking off with the CPAC International Summit.

00:27:09.000 We have leaders coming from across the globe.

00:27:13.000 I think we lost the feed there.

00:27:15.000 I'll finish the sequence.

00:27:17.000 They're saying they have leaders coming across the globe, and I think then they're going to keep ramping up.

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00:27:22.000 That is CPAC.org.

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00:28:32.000 The size of government needs to shrink dramatically, and the president should have the authority to do that.

00:28:38.000 The Democrats are doing everything they possibly can to stop this mandate to shrink the size of government.

00:28:47.000 Jonathan Turley weighs in constitutionally.

00:28:50.000 Let's play cut one, please.

00:28:52.000 This government is going to shrink.

00:28:54.000 This president was elected to reduce the size of government.

00:28:57.000 He's allowed to do that.

00:28:59.000 These employees want this deal.

00:29:02.000 Their own unions are opposing something they want, but it's not a scam.

00:29:06.000 The government is bound by this deal.

00:29:08.000 He is allowed to have Musk working through the White House.

00:29:12.000 They have Treasury people and other officials now part of Doge.

00:29:16.000 Congress has a parallel Doge committee.

00:29:19.000 The IGs are doing their own investigation along the same lines.

00:29:23.000 All of that is permissible.

00:29:25.000 And what is the response that the left has?

00:29:29.000 They go straight for feelings.

00:29:31.000 Oh, the people are getting traumatized by these potential cuts.

00:29:36.000 How many millions of you have been fired or laid off before?

00:29:40.000 Do you guys get dedicated cable news segments?

00:29:43.000 They go straight for emotions.

00:29:45.000 And I'm sure a lot of these people are nice people.

00:29:48.000 But getting laid off is part of life.

00:29:50.000 Go find another job.

00:29:52.000 You are no longer needed here.

00:29:54.000 Go find something else to do.

00:29:56.000 Almost everybody in this audience has been laid off, fired.

00:29:59.000 Had to find a new job.

00:30:00.000 It's part of the free market.

00:30:01.000 And yet, for whatever reason, the government is immune from that?

00:30:06.000 Play cut 20. Most of the information about USAID spending has been available on government websites forever.

00:30:13.000 If you wanted to know something about it, you could have found out last year.

00:30:18.000 But the goal of doing this seems to have been to traumatize the people who work for USAID and also to traumatize people who work for other government institutions.

00:30:28.000 This is a very simple principle of the market.

00:30:31.000 If you no longer are bringing value to a job, then you get fired.

00:30:36.000 Why is it that the government is immune from market principles?

00:30:43.000 Because that's exactly the point, is that the government is supposed to be immune from government principles.

00:30:49.000 This is Amy Klobuchar, who claims that Trump is stopping Head Start and cutting cancer research.

00:30:55.000 Look, I want to see a cure to cancer more than anybody else, but why should the federal government be involved in billions of dollars of funding this?

00:31:01.000 Why is that a role of the federal government?

00:31:03.000 By the way, this federal government research is so sloppy, it's so corrupt.

00:31:07.000 Allow the private sector to do it.

00:31:08.000 Allow private donations to help drive this change.

00:31:12.000 It does not need to be done by U.S. taxpayers.

00:31:15.000 I'm not even sure what she's saying is true, but I don't think that's a role of the federal government.

00:31:19.000 Has that gotten us closer?

00:31:20.000 I don't think so.

00:31:22.000 By the way, these are the same government researchers and institutions that told us that we need to have six feet to slow the spread, or masks for kids, or the vaccine was safe and effective, or mRNA technology was perfectly fine.

00:31:33.000 Play cut nine.

00:31:34.000 You know that our policy of our government should not be giving $2 trillion in tax cuts to the wealthiest and paying for it by cuts to cancer research at NIH, something that has bipartisan support for years and years, or stopping Head Start, or freezing people who are trying to protect our nuclear stockpile.

00:31:56.000 I know they are, but what I'm saying is, at some point, the pressure is on them.

00:32:01.000 You can go one path or you can go the other path.

00:32:04.000 Path A, towards a fiscal collapse.

00:32:06.000 The size and scope of government doing things that they should never do.

00:32:09.000 Or B, you take the courageous and brave path.

00:32:13.000 And you say, we're going to cut spending.

00:32:15.000 That is not a role of the federal government.

00:32:19.000 Live within our means.

00:32:20.000 Balance the budget.

00:32:21.000 This is a reckoning for the overspending and soft money, overspending currencies that we have seen over the last couple decades.

00:32:30.000 Here's cut 50 just in one department.

00:32:33.000 $1.9 billion was misplaced from the Housing and Urban Development.

00:32:37.000 And oh, just wait.

00:32:38.000 You want to talk about what's really going to shake D.C. at its core?

00:32:41.000 Just wait until Doge shows up at the Pentagon.

00:32:44.000 They're making their little stops.

00:32:46.000 USAID, Department of Education, IRS. Wait until they show up at the Pentagon.

00:32:52.000 Play Cut 50. In addition to finding fraud, Doge is discovering lost taxpayer cash.

00:32:58.000 Doge helping the Department of Housing and Urban Development relocate $1.9 billion that had gone missing under Biden.

00:33:07.000 That's nearly $2 billion that they say the Treasury can now use for other things.

00:33:10.000 Doge has also been digging into Social Security.

00:33:13.000 Elon Musk estimating there's about 60 million more Social Security numbers issued than Americans, saying this might be the biggest fraud in history.

00:33:22.000 Think about that.

00:33:23.000 60 million more Social Security numbers than Americans, which, by the way, might be doing phantom Social Security payments to illegal aliens, allowing them to steal Social Security numbers.

00:33:33.000 And no one has even dared to look at it, to ask questions about it.

00:33:37.000 We're going to go the way of fiscal sanity, living within our means, balancing our budget, a country for our children, not towards imminent fiscal collapse.

00:33:47.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:33:48.000 Email us, as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

The Charlie Kirk Show - February 17, 2025

Maintaining MAHA's Momentum

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