The Charlie Kirk Show - March 11, 2023


Make the Left Fear Power: LIVE with Mark Meadows


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Mark Meadows: Why do the left hate me so much? Mark Meadows is the founder of Turning Point USA, a conservative youth organization that fights for freedom on college campuses across the country. He is also the co-founder of the Tea Party Express and a frequent guest host on Fox News' Hard Knocks.

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00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, happy Saturday.
00:00:01.000 My conversation with Mark Meadows.
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00:00:25.000 Here we go.
00:00:26.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.
00:00:28.000 Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus.
00:00:30.000 I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk.
00:00:34.000 Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks.
00:00:37.000 I want to thank Charlie.
00:00:38.000 He's an incredible guy.
00:00:39.000 His spirit, his love of this country.
00:00:41.000 He's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.
00:00:47.000 We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
00:00:56.000 That's why we are here.
00:00:59.000 So Charlie, you know, I guess the question that I want you to answer is, why does the left hate you so much?
00:01:09.000 That's a great question.
00:01:10.000 Well, first, I do want to acknowledge something and give a lot of credit to the people in this room.
00:01:16.000 To say I was skeptical of some of the strategies would be an understatement, right, Matt?
00:01:23.000 But boy, you guys made me a believer and you guys deserve the credit.
00:01:26.000 And I publicly acknowledge that truly.
00:01:29.000 So, and great sports about it, Chip, Matt, a lot of texts, a lot of calls.
00:01:37.000 Andy's around here somewhere.
00:01:39.000 And God bless you guys.
00:01:40.000 I have your back and you guys have been very magnanimous in this entire process and really great results.
00:01:46.000 So why does the left hate me?
00:01:48.000 Boy, look, just this week, MSNBC did a whole 10-minute segment on Turning Point USA and Washington Post and NBC News.
00:01:57.000 And look, I think we're effective.
00:01:59.000 I know we're effective at Turning Point and we're moving the dial.
00:02:02.000 But we're also, we are successfully going after their most confident bet on the future, which is they believe that their quote-unquote takeover of America is inevitable because they think every young person is going to be obedient to this Marxist totalitarian left-wing worldview.
00:02:25.000 And we're putting that into jeopardy every single day.
00:02:28.000 We're putting it in jeopardy through what we're doing on campuses, high schools, podcasting, digital social media.
00:02:33.000 So they need to try to destroy us.
00:02:36.000 And I'm also very touched by how many of you support us at Turning Point USA when we get viciously attacked.
00:02:42.000 And if you look what's happening right now, it's all by design.
00:02:45.000 Washington Post comes out with a totally unfair story on Ana Paulina this last week. 1.00
00:02:50.000 James O'Keefe is going through a very dramatic chapter, and I think more information will come out.
00:02:56.000 But make no mistake, there's a lot of people that would love to take James O'Keefe off the chessboard.
00:03:00.000 And we have to stand with James O'Keefe because we need...
00:03:03.000 Hear here.
00:03:03.000 Hear here.
00:03:04.000 Well said.
00:03:05.000 And I don't know all the details.
00:03:08.000 Nobody here actually knows all the details.
00:03:10.000 I guarantee that.
00:03:12.000 But I have not heard a single piece of evidence to satisfy my opinion that James O'Keefe should be put into exile.
00:03:20.000 Maybe he should get some better staff or whatever, but we need James O'Keefe.
00:03:24.000 Why am I saying that?
00:03:25.000 I think that the young people right now in the movement that, like an Ana Paulina, James O'Keefe, Turning Point USA, they need to try to take us off the chessboard.
00:03:34.000 And it's more important than ever.
00:03:37.000 We all stand together.
00:03:38.000 We hang together because the left-wing apparatus, they understand the power of young people that are able to articulate a conservative worldview.
00:03:51.000 When we go to college campuses, we routinely come across the same problem.
00:03:55.000 We can't find rooms big enough to fit all the students that want to attend our campus lectures and our campus events.
00:04:01.000 Literally, there's overflow after overflow after overflow.
00:04:04.000 You look at the top podcasts on Apple Podcasts, seven out of 10 of them are routinely conservative podcasts.
00:04:12.000 And so there's so much traction and there's so much movement.
00:04:15.000 And so.
00:04:16.000 So how do you fight back on college campuses against the indoctrination?
00:04:22.000 You know, a lot of these patriots that are here who've invested in CPI, many of them have invested in Turning Point USA, they've sent their kids or their grandkids to universities.
00:04:38.000 And what comes out is something very different than what they sent in.
00:04:42.000 And I'm not talking about education.
00:04:45.000 I'm talking about indoctrination.
00:04:46.000 Yeah, I wrote a whole book on this.
00:04:48.000 I'm sure I won't offend anybody too much in this audience.
00:04:50.000 Please stop sending kids you care about to college unless it's Hillsdale.
00:04:54.000 And I don't say that lightly.
00:04:56.000 I know the topic probably better than anybody else as far as the research, my experience.
00:05:01.000 I have visited over 120 schools.
00:05:03.000 We have a rather substantial radio and podcasting audience.
00:05:06.000 We have 200,000 donors at Turning Point USA.
00:05:09.000 And every day I get handwritten letters from parents that say, Charlie, I raised my kid with conservative Christian values and I sent them to college and now they've been totally turned against me.
00:05:19.000 And so unless you are prepared to play Russian roulette with your kids or grandkids' values, I encourage you not to send them to college unless it's Hillsdale and maybe University of Dallas and a couple others.
00:05:29.000 Now, how do you fight it?
00:05:30.000 Well, look, I think how we fight it on college campuses is actually the mentality that we have to have in the culture war.
00:05:37.000 And I agree with part of what Benny said.
00:05:39.000 I think we're winning on some fronts.
00:05:41.000 But if we're honest with ourselves, we have to think of our movement as dissidents in our own country.
00:05:48.000 And so we train our Turning Point USA students to think of themselves as dissidents in a Soviet bloc country.
00:05:55.000 And I know that might sound hyperbolic or an exaggeration, but it's literal that if you come out and you say a conservative, if you say that men cannot give birth on a majority of American college campuses, they will penalize you, kick you out of class, and they will condemn you.
00:06:10.000 We used to call that biology.
00:06:12.000 Yes, that's right.
00:06:13.000 If you say that America is a great country, they will ridicule with everything you have.
00:06:17.000 So what gives me hope is that when a Turning Point USA student wants to sign up or start a high school chapter, by the way, we're on pace for 1,000 high school chapters across the country, an incredible accomplishment, something that's very, very incredible.
00:06:31.000 We tell them, you're going to lose your friends.
00:06:33.000 You're going to get bullied, ridiculed, scorned, and condemned.
00:06:36.000 Do you still want to do it?
00:06:37.000 And they say, yes, the country is worth it.
00:06:39.000 The price has never been greater for young conservative activism, yet the energy and the enthusiasm behind it has never been greater.
00:06:47.000 They are signing up for something where they know it's going to be uncomfortable and they're doing it anyway.
00:06:52.000 So how do you fight back?
00:06:53.000 Well, the way on college, you have to understand you're going to be in the ideological minority.
00:06:57.000 However, there's more people out there that agree with you than will ever say that, and that you are part of a broader generational movement to save the country.
00:07:07.000 And then finally, I mean, we really don't give an inch at Turning Point USA in our tactics, our methods, or how we communicate about it.
00:07:15.000 We could talk about that, but we've been incredibly effective, you know, in what we've done.
00:07:19.000 Well, you have been.
00:07:20.000 And I think what happens is, is when you have members of Congress willing to come on your podcast, your show, and quite frankly, to reach an audience that is far greater than certainly than MSNBC and CNN combined.
00:07:36.000 No, that is correct.
00:07:37.000 And so when you reach that, your ability to go directly to the people that need to hear it.
00:07:37.000 Yeah.
00:07:46.000 What makes you so certain that when you go on a college campus that you're going to have this queue waiting because Benny showed the University of Tampa, and I was shocked because University of Tampa is not known to be the hotbed of Hillsdale.
00:08:04.000 That's correct.
00:08:05.000 Well, look.
00:08:05.000 Yeah.
00:08:07.000 When we talk about the younger generation broadly, 20% super woke, super left-wing.
00:08:12.000 And then there's probably 10 to 15% that would automatically just say I'm a conservative.
00:08:17.000 The rest are winnable.
00:08:18.000 They are persuadable.
00:08:20.000 And there's this massive opportunity.
00:08:21.000 By the way, we're not going to win them over by diluting our values or all of a sudden becoming neoliberals in every regard or doing what the moderates in our party want us to do.
00:08:31.000 They actually are attracted to articulate, deep, thoughtful, provocative stances on issues that are quote unquote thought crimes.
00:08:41.000 You are not going to win over young people by saying, you know, this is the conservative case for trans surgery.
00:08:47.000 No, no, no.
00:08:48.000 You're going to win over young people and draw them in by saying truths that are rooted in eternal wisdom that might be repackaged in ways that can get their attention by saying something like, you know what?
00:09:01.000 Actually, there are only two genders.
00:09:03.000 In fact, I reject the term transgender.
00:09:05.000 It's a fake term.
00:09:06.000 There are two sexes, and it's because God made it that way. 1.00
00:09:10.000 Like they lose their mind, obviously, but that's part of the problem.
00:09:13.000 20% loses their mind.
00:09:15.000 But they're loud, but isn't that the country we're living in?
00:09:17.000 That's a perfect example of the country we're living in, which is 20% of these incredibly antisocial, incredibly aggressive people control everything because we're afraid of what they do to us.
00:09:28.000 We outnumber them.
00:09:29.000 A vast majority of Americans think it's preposterous that young people are being taught pornography at the age of seven.
00:09:29.000 We do.
00:09:37.000 So why does it happen?
00:09:38.000 And this is my message to the Freedom Caucus.
00:09:40.000 It's my message to legislatures, my message to CEOs.
00:09:43.000 We have to be comfortable using political power against our opponents and against the opposition.
00:09:50.000 We have to be comfortable.
00:09:52.000 This is something where people get a little uneasy.
00:09:55.000 So by political power, what do you mean?
00:09:57.000 Great question.
00:09:58.000 Ron DeSantis punished Disney.
00:10:01.000 The old conservative movement would say, well, who am I to possibly say that?
00:10:05.000 No, no.
00:10:05.000 We have to make the opposition feel a penalty and a cost for what they're doing to us and to our voters.
00:10:15.000 And so that's one example of many, right?
00:10:17.000 And in Congress, that's difficult because you don't control all the chambers of power.
00:10:21.000 Let me give you another example, though, right?
00:10:23.000 Which is we, and I want to give credit to the Freedom Caucus, and I think Matt was appropriate by also acknowledging Kevin McCarthy keeping his word on this, but making Eric Swalwell and Elon Omar and Adam Schiff be ridiculed in public, that's a good thing.
00:10:39.000 That shows that we have political power and we're willing to use it.
00:10:42.000 I would go even further and say they shouldn't serve on any committees, but that's, you know, I'm unusual in that way.
00:10:48.000 You're unusual in a lot of ways.
00:10:50.000 But here's what I will say, though, is that the other side needs to fear us as much as many of our voters fear them.
00:11:00.000 This is not a coffee shop debate anymore.
00:11:03.000 So I'll go even a step further.
00:11:04.000 You know, I talked to a bunch of attorney generals and they, you know, their eyes kind of get wide when I say this, which is when they raided Mar-a-Lago, we should have had DAs and attorney generals, those that actually have the power to do this, just begin to start to sign subpoenas and search warrants of high-level Democrat officials.
00:11:23.000 They need to believe that there's an equal and opposite reaction when they act tyrannical against us.
00:11:28.000 And currently, they don't necessarily fear that.
00:11:30.000 And so that's a deeper, more provocative thought that I think that there's some really amazing leadership being done in that regard.
00:11:38.000 But I'll give you another example, which is instead of giving big tech a tax cut, which we know we did previously, which I love the tax bill.
00:11:47.000 It was great.
00:11:48.000 We should have done everything we possibly can to punish these big tech companies legislatively for their interventionist behavior in the 2020 election and other ways.
00:11:59.000 This is not the way a lot of Republicans talk in D.C.
00:12:02.000 And so by pun, no, it isn't.
00:12:04.000 In fact, you'll get people who say, well, gosh, they're a private company.
00:12:08.000 Don't go after them.
00:12:10.000 And yet, and yet, Matt Gates brought up the hearing where he was in, where he was talking to the lobbyists.
00:12:18.000 And literally, the lobbyists could not name all his customers or wouldn't name all of his customers until Matt says, well, it's on your website.
00:12:27.000 And he starts just listing them out.
00:12:29.000 It's Google, it's Pfizer, it's this.
00:12:32.000 And the guy sheepishly says, well, yeah, that's it.
00:12:35.000 So how do you punish them?
00:12:37.000 Yeah, well, I mean, if you controlled all the chambers of commerce, you would obviously Congress, you would strip them of their special immunity.
00:12:44.000 But here's the broader point, and you could apply it any way you want.
00:12:48.000 We have to make their entire flow of business, their ease of access to government, and their lifestyle. 0.96
00:12:58.000 We have to make it all so uncomfortable for them legislatively and culturally.
00:13:03.000 And I think we're starting to finally learn this.
00:13:05.000 And we learned it honestly from Donald Trump.
00:13:08.000 And so if you look at kind of the allocation of power in America, one side of the American political spectrum is enthusiastic about using political power.
00:13:20.000 That is Democrats.
00:13:21.000 These are Soviet totalitarians. 0.85
00:13:23.000 We are not just skeptical.
00:13:24.000 We are adamantly against it.
00:13:26.000 And philosophically, I understand why he gets that conclusion because we think government, legislation, we can't do any of these things.
00:13:32.000 Look, everybody, the only way you're going to be able to get these Stalinists to back off is if they believe that there's going to be a penalty for how harsh they come after us, right?
00:13:42.000 And so I'm open to any ideas, right?
00:13:45.000 And we have the legislative minds here.
00:13:47.000 I mean, from impeaching Majorca's, all that stuff is fine. 1.00
00:13:50.000 But a lot of this, honestly, Mark, comes at the state level.
00:13:53.000 It has to, because the state level, and that's why the State Freedom Caucus you guys are doing at CPI is so incredibly important.
00:13:59.000 And DeSantis has played around with some of these ideas, but it shouldn't even be a question.
00:14:04.000 Every Republican governor in the country should say, if you medically mutilate children, you should go to jail or go practice medicine in a different state.
00:14:12.000 Critical race theory has no place, but all of that requires courage and then obviously legislative action.
00:14:17.000 Well, you have a lot of courage.
00:14:19.000 I can say this.
00:14:20.000 So what you're telling this audience is that it's not enough to just have hearings and pretend like you're outraged over Benghazi and have nothing happen.
00:14:32.000 The theatrics have to stop everybody, okay?
00:14:35.000 And this room is the outlier because you guys actually want action and you want to do these sorts of things.
00:14:40.000 And so this is considered, this is in some ways what the left fears the most and what the media fears the most.
00:14:47.000 They actually fear the American right understanding how much power we have and then using that power.
00:14:55.000 There is the lie of neutrality that has permeated the Republican Party, where I hear from Republican officials all the time and some donors, well, Charlie, we have to be better than that.
00:15:06.000 I just want us to be neutral and we can get back to this place of decency and common sense.
00:15:11.000 There will be one winner, them or us.
00:15:15.000 And we need to be willing to do what is necessary to win.
00:15:19.000 So you're saying don't be neutral.
00:15:21.000 No, I'm saying we must play offense.
00:15:24.000 We must be unapologetic at using every chamber of power possible.
00:15:28.000 We must use attorney generals, district attorneys, ballot referendums, indictments, subpoenas, committees.
00:15:34.000 It should be in all of the abort.
00:15:35.000 Why Hunter Biden is not in jail by some state attorney general or district attorney is beyond me.
00:15:41.000 Make the Biden family uncomfortable.
00:15:43.000 They raided Mar-a-Lago.
00:15:44.000 You raid Mar-a-Lago.
00:15:45.000 We come after one of your own.
00:15:47.000 It needs to be an equal and opposite reaction.
00:15:48.000 Now, it might not sound people like, oh, Charlie, that's too simple.
00:15:51.000 And you're talking about revenge politics.
00:15:54.000 You're going to get run over by these people.
00:15:56.000 And I know this personally, that the only thing that they fear is power.
00:16:01.000 Why do you say that?
00:16:02.000 Read their literature.
00:16:04.000 These people are not persuaded by ideas.
00:16:07.000 Go read Herbert Marcuse.
00:16:08.000 Go read Jacques Derrida.
00:16:10.000 Go read Michelle Foucault.
00:16:12.000 Go read the postmodern philosophical base of the American left.
00:16:16.000 They believe if you strip down all of what they call the fake normative post-colonialist structure that built the American West, all that governs human behavior is whoever has more power.
00:16:28.000 I wish that was not the case.
00:16:30.000 I want to live in the country I was raised in.
00:16:32.000 I do.
00:16:33.000 Where we had debates and common values.
00:16:35.000 You know, people, it's nauseating, Mark, when people say, you know, I think we have more in common than we don't.
00:16:42.000 I have nothing in common with the American Democrat Party.
00:16:44.000 In fact, I wish I have nothing.
00:16:48.000 In fact, I hope and I desire for them to not be anywhere near a political party.
00:16:54.000 People say, well, Charlie, don't have more bipartisanship.
00:16:56.000 We've had nothing but bipartisanship over the last bipartisanship on bad trade deals, on open borders, on sending money to Zelensky.
00:17:04.000 We have the most bipartisan uniparty consensus, and we become less free and the country continues to deteriorate.
00:17:11.000 And so, but here's why they fear DeSantis.
00:17:13.000 This is why they fear Trump.
00:17:14.000 And this is why they do not fear Brian Kemp.
00:17:19.000 This is why they do not, no, seriously.
00:17:21.000 Brian Kemp, nice guy.
00:17:22.000 I'm sure he's great at the masters to hang out with or whatever, right?
00:17:26.000 And why Abbott needs to make a decision really soon, and I'm afraid he's choosing incorrectly.
00:17:30.000 Because DeSantis is all of a sudden showing a blueprint that governors have a lot more power than anyone ever wanted to acknowledge or realize.
00:17:37.000 The federal government is actually a creation of the states, not the other way around.
00:17:41.000 And the media is doing everything they possibly can not to allow, because they know that all of a sudden, 20 Republican governors that grow a spine with a legislature that supports them, all of a sudden you're talking about a restoration of federalism in a way where they could not possibly comprehend it.
00:17:57.000 So they need to have, look, the Chamber of Commerce, they need to have business as usual.
00:18:04.000 Business as usual is neoliberalism.
00:18:06.000 Agree to disagree.
00:18:07.000 You know, we all are, no more agree to disagree, okay?
00:18:11.000 There's going to be one winner in this entire equation, right?
00:18:15.000 And people say, well, Charlie, do you want to reach to their levels?
00:18:19.000 I want to win.
00:18:21.000 My political philosophy is about victory.
00:18:24.000 And I think it's about time that we start to realize what we love requires a little bit of fights that we haven't actually exhibited in the past.
00:18:36.000 Well, I wish you would just, Charlie, say what you mean.
00:18:41.000 I mean, this is, but there is a pressing question that most of the people in the room really have been anxious to ask you is, does Relief Factor actually work?
00:18:54.000 Okay, let's clear this up, okay?
00:18:57.000 So, listen.
00:19:00.000 Listen.
00:19:01.000 Before I answer the question, it's a room full of politicians, so I do not have to answer the question, okay?
00:19:07.000 When you are in podcasting or radio, you are presented with a menu of options.
00:19:12.000 So it was catheters, reverse mortgages, that weird thing that goes up the stairs, and I have no idea what it actually does.
00:19:21.000 Gold and silver IRAs, okay?
00:19:24.000 Or relief factor, okay?
00:19:26.000 I don't have the option.
00:19:27.000 I don't have, listen, or Patriot move.
00:19:29.000 I don't have, I don't get Lexis.
00:19:31.000 I don't get McDonald's, okay?
00:19:33.000 And here's what I'll say about Relief Factor.
00:19:35.000 It's 100% drug-free.
00:19:42.000 And Jim DeMint takes it.
00:19:46.000 Well said, well said.
00:19:48.000 That was a great response.
00:19:51.000 Great response.
00:19:56.000 So, Charlie, I'll finish up with this.
00:19:59.000 You have been very, very kind.
00:20:02.000 But what makes liberals' heads explode on college campus? 0.91
00:20:10.000 I've seen your viral videos, you know, and now I understand from Benny why exactly they went viral.
00:20:18.000 But when you get a million, two million, three million views on a video, what do you think makes their head explode and why do people react to it?
00:20:28.000 Yeah, so I'll actually broaden it because I think the entire country is becoming a massive open-air college campus.
00:20:34.000 And what I mean by that, the elements that I've been fighting for the last decade are everywhere.
00:20:38.000 The thought police, political censorship, all the kind of things that used to be isolated is now, I believe it's more dangerous than even the virus of 2020.
00:20:51.000 But what makes them most angry, Mark, is actually best exhibited by something I think the movement did pretty well.
00:20:59.000 And that's when they tried to take Matt Gates off the chessboard.
00:21:02.000 And what they thought is they thought they could ice him out and he would no longer be invited to events and he would no longer be put on podcasts.
00:21:10.000 And in fact, they were stunned by how many people stood by him, including CPI and others.
00:21:17.000 And that all of a sudden made them less powerful.
00:21:20.000 In fact, we still had him at turning point events and still came on the show and all that.
00:21:23.000 Why does that matter?
00:21:25.000 Their power source is derived from our weakness.
00:21:29.000 As we capitulate, they grow stronger.
00:21:32.000 When we hold the line, they're all of a sudden not as powerful as they think they are.
00:21:37.000 Okay, Washington Post, you wrote another story.
00:21:39.000 Okay, DOJ, you put another press release.
00:21:42.000 So what makes their heads explode, what makes them worried, is that all of a sudden there's a new conservative movement that stands by their own in solidarity, that when they try to take out James O'Keefe, all of a sudden the clamoring thing on Twitter is like, actually, no, we should stand by him and he's terrific.
00:21:56.000 We're not going to go put him out to Alba into exile and wish him well.
00:22:00.000 This is new.
00:22:02.000 Because now they're realizing, and this is why they're so afraid and why they have to try to get things passed so quickly.
00:22:02.000 Right.
00:22:07.000 And they had to try to get HR1 and they need universal mail-in ballots.
00:22:10.000 Because the really smart liberals are seeing a conservative movement more broadly that is really ready to fight.
00:22:18.000 And so what makes their heads explode, the last thing I'll say on that is not just truth, but the idea that there is an objective truth.
00:22:31.000 Moral subjectivity is one of the key ingredients to modern leftism.
00:22:39.000 My truth, your truth.
00:22:41.000 This is one of the ways that they've hypnotized God-fearing Republicans into inaction.
00:22:46.000 And I'll show you how this works, okay?
00:22:48.000 They say, everybody, live and let live.
00:22:51.000 It's not that.
00:22:52.000 It's live and let them rule. 1.00
00:22:54.000 That's what it's been.
00:22:56.000 It's been, I have my truth, you have your truth.
00:22:58.000 Now, you might have your own opinions.
00:22:59.000 You might have your own perspectives.
00:23:01.000 There's only one truth.
00:23:02.000 And I believe the ultimate truth is Jesus Christ and he sets you free of your sins.
00:23:07.000 But why does this matter?
00:23:10.000 Because when you have truth, agreed upon language, people are a lot harder to control tyrannically.
00:23:17.000 When everybody has a truth in their own eyes, it says in the Bible, whatever does what is right in their own eyes, it's so much easier to be able to create a tyrant to come in.
00:23:26.000 So what makes them most nervous?
00:23:26.000 Said.
00:23:28.000 They're nervous that a new conservative movement is rising and CPI, you guys are doing such god's work with this they're.
00:23:34.000 They're nervous that, all of a sudden, that the kind of band of rebels in Congress is more articulate.
00:23:40.000 They're younger, they are more diverse than ever before.
00:23:45.000 That hurts, that hurts, but let's be honest that i'm with you.
00:23:51.000 I'm with you, go ahead.
00:23:52.000 The band of rebels when I was young in politics were always kind of portrayed as like the crazy wacko people, and sometimes they didn't do themselves any service when they went on cable television. 1.00
00:24:01.000 I'm not going to say any names, but you could kind of think of, you know kind of some of that and remember, just in the 2012 t the Tea Party wave, that wasn't the Todd Aiken moments that were misportray.
00:24:13.000 Imagine that.
00:24:13.000 Now though yeah, I think that actually, the conservative movement might have been able to bail out a Murdoch Aiken senate campaign in turmoil with proper media training, social media assistance, going and doing rallies, clarifying correctly and then playing offense against the Democrats.
00:24:30.000 The 2012 Republican movement abandoned two winnable senate races in red states, Indiana and Missouri.
00:24:36.000 One of them where the candidate said something legitimately you know, that needed clarification one where he really didn't say anything that bad at all, and we just abandoned them and we allowed two Democrats to win.
00:24:45.000 So how has that changed, Mark?
00:24:47.000 Well, all of a sudden they're realizing like, oh my goodness, this is a movement that stands by their own, they're embracing the principles of solidarity, they're willing to punch back twice as hard, they're willing to use mockery and ridicule, and nothing is more effective against tyrants than ridicule, which is why, by percentage, more comedians and cartoonists were put in Soviet gulags than any other profession, because the people that mocked the ruler were the most effective in penetrating irrational tyranny.
00:25:13.000 That's why what Benny does is so incredibly effective and so important.
00:25:17.000 And so look, I will say this, our victory is not inevitable.
00:25:25.000 People say we're gonna win.
00:25:26.000 I don't know that to be true, but it is definitely possible.
00:25:30.000 I reject the doomsdays doomsday, and I reject the kind of hopium. 0.98
00:25:34.000 Oh Charlie, there's a plan.
00:25:35.000 There's no plan.
00:25:36.000 Okay, there is, is an opportunity, and you have agency and free will and i'm blessed to fight along so many of you, and we have an opportunity.
00:25:45.000 Will y'all give up a great warm welcome for my good friend Charlie Kirk?
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