In this episode of The Charlie Kirk Show, Founder and CEO of Rumble, Charlie Kirk joins us live from the Republican National Convention in Cleveland, Ohio. We talk about how Charlie and his partner, Dan Bongino, have built a multi-billion dollar company that has been in the public eye for more than a decade, and how they built it into one of the fastest growing and most influential companies in the world. We also discuss how the founders built a company that is now a multi billion dollar company, and what it means to be an entrepreneur in the 21st century. This episode is sponsored by Noble Gold Investments, the official gold sponsor of the show, and Noble Gold Investing, the company that specializes in gold and physical delivery of precious metals. Learn how you could protect your wealth with Noble Gold Investment Investments at noblegoldinvestments.com. That is where I buy all of my gold. Go to NobleGoldInvestments.co/TheCharlieKirkShow and become a member today! To get our new shirt, Never Surrender with President Trump survives an assassination attempt. That s Memberscharliekirk to get your new shirt! That is, "Never Surrender With President Trump Surviving an Assassination Attempt." That is a new shirt from The Charlie Kirker Show! . Dan The Founder of Rumble and Chris Pavlosky, CEO of the RUMBLE Podcast shares his story of how he built a billion-dollar company and how he did it all by building a billion dollars in a decade in a short amount of time. The future is the future of his company. , and why he s the future, and why you should invest in it. Dan BONUS: The future, the future is in the future and the past is possible, not the past, and the present, and it s going to be better than you can t be bettered than you think it is better than the past. And why you can have it all, so much better than that. ...and much more! - Dan the Founder of the Charlie Kirk Show, Dan the Entrepreneur Podcast! Dan the Investor? - The Founder, Dan Vance The CEO of RUMRUMBLE Chris Pavloy, CEO, the founder of Rumble, the podcast, the entrepreneur, the hustler, the investor, the innovator, the influencer, the podcaster, the inventor, the businessman, the hipster, the geek, the philanthropist, the visionary, the rock star, the all-around hustler.
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00:01:29.000With us right now is one of the most important voices in tech and an entrepreneur who I have such great respect for and a great friend, Chris Pavlosky.
00:01:43.000We are live on Rumble many, many hours a day.
00:01:46.000I think we might stream close to as many hours as anybody on the platform every day.
00:01:51.000You guys are on, like, yeah, you're right, like, at least three, four hours every day, and then sometimes on Thursday, another three or four hours.
00:01:57.000Another three or four hours, and we do evenings.
00:01:59.000I mean, just in the last week, we have done 26 hours on Rumble.
00:02:08.000Give us an update, and also just a little bit of the backstory about this remarkable company that you have founded that has become a multi-billion dollar juggernaut.
00:02:17.000Yeah, so I've been in the business for two decades now.
00:02:23.000It was around 2013 when we started Rumble, late 2013, and it was based simply on the premise of helping the small creator getting the distribution and monetization that they weren't getting on the incumbent platforms.
00:02:34.000We started to notice that, like, YouTube and all these other platforms were starting to preference big influencers, big creators, brands, corporations, and then we started Rumble on the premise of kind of helping the small guy, our friends, family, aunts, and uncle.
00:02:48.000Fast forward six years, summer of 2020, I get a call from the Ranking member of the U.S.
00:02:56.000House Intel Committee, Congressman Devin Nunes, and he asks me a really simple question.
00:03:00.000He's like, Chris, if I bring my podcast to Rumble and people search for my name, am I going to find it?
00:03:07.000And I'm like, yeah, thinking I was under some kind of investigation.
00:03:12.000And so he brings his podcast to Rumble.
00:03:15.000Within two to three months, he has two to three hundred thousand subscribers, whereas in his district in California, he's an elected representative in California.
00:03:24.000He's got, in his district, advertising his YouTube channel for four years, and he only accumulated, in four years, 10,000 subscribers, whereas on Rumble, in two to three months, he had two to three hundred thousand subscribers.
00:03:35.000Call that censorship, call that shadow banning, call it whatever you like.
00:03:39.000Fast forward, you know, six, seven months past that, Dan Bongino ends up joining in investing.
00:03:46.000And then, actually, in April of 2021, I think it was you and JD Vance that came in as first investors in Rumble.
00:04:32.000What ended up happening in the last four years is that, and you know this better than anybody else, is that authenticity is something people are seeking.
00:04:40.000And you can't be authentic on any of the other platforms right now.
00:05:00.000And we had a lot of creators, including yourself, Russell Brand, Dan Bongino, all kind of move over to Rumble during those years.
00:05:08.000And, you know, as we get closer to today, we have, you know, True Social now.
00:05:13.000We have X. We have a lot of talk about the cloud that you guys are building as well.
00:05:18.000So, obviously, in order to be able to defend against the this relentless attacks from the corporate media, relentless attacks from big tech, we need to be able to have our own infrastructure.
00:05:29.000You cannot survive right now on in this environment if you do not own your own infrastructure.
00:05:35.000So when you guys came in, one of the things that I spoke to you and to JD was that we need to have our own infrastructure.
00:05:42.000So we built that quickly and fast starting in 2021 and we launched that public cloud to the rest of the the world here in 2024.
00:05:51.000We have customers like Trump Media and Technology Group using the cloud.
00:05:57.000We have a lot of different companies now using that cloud.
00:05:59.000So That's been a very important piece of the puzzle because you can't have authentic speech if you're sitting on any of the incumbent technology.
00:06:10.000And so the movement of Rumble right now in an election year is very important because in 2020 we saw widespread censorship and you guys were not a player.
00:06:21.000You guys are not a political company, you are a free speech platform.
00:06:25.000But, for example, if the Intel Agency showed up and said, you must censor Charlie Kirk, what would you say to that?
00:06:31.000And that's not a hypothetical, actually.
00:06:33.000So, what we've actually had happen, this is the most ironic, I'll tell you something very ironic, but we have governments from around the world asking to remove creators all the time.
00:08:25.000We are an American company and those are the rules that we're going to stick to and that's how we're going to run this company.
00:08:31.000What the big problem that happened with big tech is that every tech company ends up complying to other governments and they no longer become they're no longer an American company they become a they become a globalist company a nationals company that's complying and Taking orders from other governments that don't have the same values that we have.
00:08:49.000And that takes a lot of courage because your life would conceivably be easier if you kind of colluded with the government, wouldn't it?
00:08:56.000It'd be much easier if you... If we want to operate in China, we would do everything that China wants us to do.
00:09:02.000Is YouTube allowed in China anymore or no?
00:09:08.000Yeah, I'm not very familiar with the Chinese market, but I think it's Weibo that's very popular there.
00:09:16.000But when it comes to another foreign country asking us to censor creators like yourself or anyone else on the platform that doesn't violate, our answer is go pound sand.
00:10:50.000If you're interested in cloud, go to rumble.cloud.
00:10:53.000And if you're interested in using our advertising, if you want to advertise with us, or you want to, if you're a publisher and need ads, you can go to rumbleads.com.
00:12:24.000If you want to watch these shows, and you want to watch them on the big screen, we're across all the different TV apps, including we just launched on Xbox.
00:12:34.000That should be out very shortly as well.
00:12:36.000So you can sit on your couch and you can watch Real America's Voice right from your couch now, and you don't need to do it on your phone all the time.
00:12:42.000I'm so excited about the future of Rumble, and I'm honored to be part of it.
00:12:46.000I was like, kind of an initial... No, Charlie, you've been one of the first believers in Rumble.
00:12:51.000You were one of the first people to come over, and I don't think people appreciate, like, the foresight that you and Dan, when you guys came over in 2020, I think you guys came over, and seeing that, like, you saw this happening before anybody else.
00:13:06.000You were the first investor, and I can't thank you enough to be a part of that.
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00:14:27.000was by Ann Funder and was just beyond anything we could put into words.
00:14:34.000I want to play a piece of tape here and then welcome her here.
00:16:36.000You know, teenagers, every single one of us, we, we, you know, when we were teens, we dealt with peer pressure and, you know, in a moment of peer pressure, he succumbed to what we had talked about never doing.
00:16:52.000So, and we had a lot of conversations about it.
00:16:56.000And you can't make mistakes anymore as a kid.
00:18:59.000So the person who murdered your son with this substance and knowing it was Lace the Fentanyl, he walks free today to go kill another 15-year-old?
00:20:48.000You would think that someone whose son is an addict, who has also lost a child and knows the pain of loss, This would be on their radar and they would be doing something.
00:20:59.000But instead he has reversed Trump's border policy.
00:21:02.000He has allowed the fentanyl factories in China to reopen.
00:21:06.000He just pours over our borders and it's poison and they don't prosecute people.
00:21:21.000She passed it and it is if you sell fentanyl and have a fatality you're looking at life in prison and if a child dies you're looking at the death penalty.
00:24:45.000We have a very important person here, Michael Knowles, best-selling author of Reason to Vote for Democrats, a thorough read.
00:24:51.000All right, Michael, this is a Kennedy assassination-type moment where I'm going around and I'm just infinitely curious by asking, where were you?
00:25:57.000I don't know if the country would have ever healed from that.
00:26:00.000And I say that because there has never been a moment where we kind of were saying, I mean I said out loud for months, they're going to try to assassinate him, they're going to try to assassinate Tucker, say to other people, and this country's already like on the verge of combusting.
00:26:15.000And you're going to all of a sudden have the leader, the figure, the symbol, who's been impeached, indicted, convicted, and he gets his brains blown out in an open air rally?
00:26:25.000I don't know what would have happened next, but it could have ended the country.
00:26:32.000Well, you know, listen, we're living in strange times and the leader of the party and the former president was almost Murdered three days ago, so yeah, it's hard to overstate these things.
00:26:42.000Part of the reason why it would have been so cataclysmic is because it was so expected.
00:26:47.000As you say, we've all been talking about how this could happen.
00:26:50.000And so the response that really made my blood boil, I usually have pretty good control of my emotions.
00:26:55.000What made my blood boil, Kamala Harris said it first, she called it a senseless act of violence.
00:27:01.000If you establish the premise for years now that Trump is Hitler and that he poses an existential threat to our system of government, our whole country, then actually it's a very sensible act.
00:28:40.000At the very least, because, you know, as I've said from the beginning, we want to be all about the facts.
00:28:44.000We don't want to, you know, the reality is crazy enough that we don't want to be taken to flights of fancy.
00:28:49.000But at the very least, you would have to say the fact that he had an obviously insufficient Secret Service force in terms of the personnel who were selected to protect him, even their physical stature.
00:29:03.000I got attacked for saying that, by the way.
00:29:05.000She can't holster a weapon, right, Dan?
00:29:07.000She's protecting the President of the United States.
00:30:47.000I have been following his career since he was in law school, you know, just about.
00:30:51.000And so I was elated when I heard this pick.
00:30:54.000And the reason that the pick is so great is because it shows that President Trump, he could have picked a wallflower, he could have picked an old guy, he could have picked a token, he could have picked Someone to, you know, play into the cynical identity politics game.
00:33:38.000You know for years we heard all this pie-in-the-sky abstract nonsense about about what conservatism really means and then you get these guys and they say remember Trump said in 2016 I am running to give you Good neighborhoods, a safe, beautiful country.
00:34:52.000It's the turning point, as a matter of fact.
00:34:54.000And so, these tangible moments are what connect us.
00:34:58.000You know, ours is an incarnational faith, and we believe that God so tightly knits the fabric of reality that His story plays out over time in Providence with our free will, and He accommodates for our sins, and His ends will be fulfilled.
00:35:12.000That's what any Christian would have to believe.
00:35:15.000And that means that that says something about politics, too.
00:35:19.000What we're seeing happen here is quite remarkable.
00:35:22.000Because the Republican Party is now the young, rebellious party, with the dude that survives the shooting.
00:35:32.000You're an aesthetic guy, because you're Catholic.
00:38:26.000So when you're traveling, you go to a cigar lounge, you're cool smelling, it's the first thing I land in town, I say, where is the nearest cigar bar?
00:39:31.000I think that, and Dennis won me over on this, that from a moral perspective, that when cigarettes, if there is a vice, cigarettes are a better vice than drinking.
00:39:42.000Well, you know, and the other thing about cigars is you don't inhale, and it allows you to... Does anyone beat their wife after smoking a cigarette?
00:41:38.000We could play some tape here, but we have you here.
00:41:40.000There's no need to even play the tape.
00:41:41.000What was your message for the country?
00:41:43.000Well, my message for the United States of America is that we need to begin to change the narrative in poor minority communities across the board.
00:41:54.000We need to make sure that we are not giving our votes away and allowing elected officials to take our vote for granted.
00:42:05.000We need to make sure that Whoever wants our vote needs to bring something tangible to the poor minority communities.
00:42:14.000For too long, we have been neglected and ignored.
00:42:20.000Do you think Democrats are taking the black vote for granted?
00:42:39.000Because after his murder, I saw the apparatus of New York City that I was up against in trying to get justice.
00:42:48.000And the entire apparatus in New York City is Democrat and progressive.
00:42:53.000And these people shunned me and ostracized me and made me feel like an outcast because my Sergeant Hassan was stabbed to death and not shot to death.
00:43:03.000And they made a huge difference between being shot and stabbed.
00:44:14.000They said that Hassan jumped someone, alright?
00:44:17.000When in all actuality, Hassan was defending his father.
00:44:21.000This was a young man who punched his father in the face.
00:44:24.000And Hassan did what he needed to do to defend his father, alright?
00:44:28.000And the kid who got beat up went out and got these people that were hanging out in front of a liquor store in Harlem on 152nd and 8th Avenue, alright?
00:44:37.000And came back and told them that my son jumped them.
00:44:39.000And those, those four are, what happened to them?
00:45:49.000And I think that everybody, everybody in poor minority communities, all right, should really do their research.
00:45:57.000Like Amber Rose said, do your research and find out who these candidates are that are up for election and don't just go on the word of the mainstream media.
00:46:09.000Madeline, you gave a wonderful speech.
00:46:11.000We need to bring you in front of more audiences, and the President is going to deliver results for all Americans and make this country safe again.