The Charlie Kirk Show - July 23, 2021


Making Masculinity Great Again with Dan Bongino


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Dan Bongino sits down with Charlie Kirk to talk all things lifting. Charlie talks about his journey to becoming the President of Turning Point USA, how he got into the fitness industry, and what it takes to be a professional bodybuilder.

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00:01:50.000 Hey, everybody, Charlie Kirk here with Dan Bongino.
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00:01:59.000 Dan, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.
00:02:00.000 Man, talking about your arms that have their own zip codes.
00:02:04.000 Yeah, that's fine.
00:02:04.000 Charlie, tell us your workout regimen.
00:02:06.000 Well, listen, here's the thing.
00:02:07.000 There's this common misconception with lifting, like you got to do it for a really long time.
00:02:11.000 That's for wusp banks.
00:02:12.000 Don't do that. 0.98
00:02:13.000 That's like a mess.
00:02:14.000 Don't you have to lift really hard, super intense and short.
00:02:17.000 If you're doing it more than 30 minutes, here's the thing.
00:02:20.000 You're not doing it hard enough.
00:02:21.000 Because if you're doing it the right way, like high-intensity stuff, you shouldn't be able to do it more than 30 minutes. 1.00
00:02:26.000 And no chump stuff. 1.00
00:02:27.000 Okay. 1.00
00:02:27.000 If you're going to lift, no, no, not you. 1.00
00:02:29.000 You give me like the weirdo.
00:02:30.000 You see that?
00:02:30.000 You get me like that.
00:02:32.000 You have to do the heavy stuff, especially you young guys like you.
00:02:35.000 You got to deadlift.
00:02:36.000 You got to squat, weighted pull-ups, bench press, overhead press.
00:02:40.000 Yeah, no, no, you have to do legs.
00:02:41.000 You can't do like the New York Queens workout I grew up with. 0.62
00:02:44.000 You know the New York Queens workout?
00:02:46.000 What do you do?
00:02:46.000 Is that from the waist up?
00:02:47.000 Yeah, what do you do for legs?
00:02:48.000 I bench.
00:02:49.000 You know, what do you do for calves?
00:02:50.000 I bench.
00:02:51.000 It's not a real workout.
00:02:52.000 You have to deadlift.
00:02:53.000 Matter of fact, man, we really, this is like a Saturday Night Live Cold Open, isn't it?
00:02:56.000 No, of course.
00:02:56.000 It's crazy.
00:02:57.000 We just blew right into it.
00:02:58.000 Me and this guy, we could be real trouble on the other day.
00:03:00.000 Could you imagine?
00:03:01.000 Yeah, I know.
00:03:01.000 It could be real trouble.
00:03:02.000 You could set the whole universe on fire.
00:03:04.000 You have to deadlift.
00:03:05.000 I would argue to you that if you just deadlifted twice a week, you would be better off than if you just did like your upper body would look better than if you just did upper body.
00:03:13.000 Have you heard about the scandal of people doing those Instagram videos of fake weights on?
00:03:17.000 No, no, is that true?
00:03:18.000 Oh, yeah.
00:03:18.000 They're starting to get exposed.
00:03:19.000 That's heresy.
00:03:20.000 Is that right? 1.00
00:03:20.000 It should be a death penalty for that. 1.00
00:03:22.000 Don't you think? 0.95
00:03:22.000 I think that's the real injustice. 0.95
00:03:24.000 I got real videos of me lifting like real weight.
00:03:27.000 But I promise you, you know what is Jim?
00:03:28.000 Do you remember Attila's?
00:03:30.000 Hold on.
00:03:30.000 Oh, is this the guy in New Jersey?
00:03:31.000 The guy in New Jersey.
00:03:32.000 Can you get a tattoo there or something?
00:03:33.000 I don't.
00:03:34.000 We're not allowed to curse on your show, right?
00:03:35.000 Well, okay.
00:03:36.000 Because I was like, HBO Max Edition.
00:03:36.000 It depends.
00:03:38.000 Well, I was just going to say, people talk and stuff.
00:03:38.000 All right.
00:03:41.000 So people are like, oh, I'm going to go help this guy and Attila's out.
00:03:44.000 So I took a private plane and went up there.
00:03:47.000 You got a tattoo or something.
00:03:48.000 And lift.
00:03:48.000 I got to tell.
00:03:49.000 Well, there's the tattoo.
00:03:49.000 Look, that's my back.
00:03:51.000 That's the tattoo I got.
00:03:52.000 Jeez, pretty awesome.
00:03:54.000 You want to see?
00:03:54.000 That's my back.
00:03:55.000 Yeah.
00:03:55.000 Have you had Roger Stone's tattoo?
00:03:57.000 My wife there.
00:03:58.000 Patrickstone has the picture of Richard Nixon right here.
00:04:01.000 No, is this a Geraldo moment?
00:04:02.000 This is my back.
00:04:03.000 But my wife took this picture, but this is here.
00:04:05.000 Check this out.
00:04:05.000 So this is me up in Attila's right here.
00:04:08.000 So the guy's like, how many times do you think you can do 315 in the dead?
00:04:12.000 And I'm like, I don't know. 0.76
00:04:13.000 And then this woman's like taking my picture behind me.
00:04:15.000 But check that out. 0.95
00:04:16.000 That's real.
00:04:16.000 Like, there's 315 jeans.
00:04:18.000 Look at that. 0.83
00:04:18.000 Jeans. 0.83
00:04:19.000 Jeans and boots.
00:04:20.000 By the way, no warm-up.
00:04:21.000 I'm destroying my back, though.
00:04:22.000 Check it out, man. 1.00
00:04:23.000 Killing it. 1.00
00:04:23.000 Slaying it. 1.00
00:04:24.000 See, I have a really bad back.
00:04:26.000 Yeah, I had a bad back to it.
00:04:27.000 How did you fix it?
00:04:29.000 I had a percutaneous dyscectomy, and I started doing kettlebells.
00:04:33.000 It's when they go in with a cannula and they take like jelly out of the donut and they shrink the disc so it scars up.
00:04:38.000 I've never had a problem since.
00:04:40.000 But you know what fixed my back?
00:04:41.000 Kettlebells, which sounds crazy.
00:04:43.000 What do you mean, kettlebells?
00:04:44.000 They're like cannonballs with handles.
00:04:44.000 Kettlebells.
00:04:46.000 And you do the swings with them.
00:04:46.000 Oh, yeah, yeah.
00:04:48.000 And if you do them right, it built my back.
00:04:50.000 And it almost creates a splint for your spine.
00:04:53.000 Wow.
00:04:54.000 But yeah, I could talk working out all day.
00:04:55.000 It's my favorite.
00:04:56.000 I used to do shows during the holidays.
00:04:58.000 Do you remember what we called rough cuts?
00:04:59.000 See, that's Roger's tattoo.
00:05:00.000 Is that what yours looks like?
00:05:02.000 No, no, definitely not Richard Nixon, but that's a cool tattoo.
00:05:05.000 Oh, that stone's tattoo.
00:05:06.000 Yeah, you have a better defined tattoo.
00:05:07.000 No, I had the Jesus fish put on.
00:05:09.000 I had the Jesus fish put on the back. 0.78
00:05:11.000 Because the story was I wanted to go up to work out in Attila's just to kind of stick it to the man and support them.
00:05:17.000 And then on the way back, there was a tattoo shop that got shut down too.
00:05:21.000 And I said to Paula, meanwhile, keep in mind, I'm 46.
00:05:23.000 Like, who gets a tattoo at 46?
00:05:25.000 And I was like, let's stop in North Carolina, too.
00:05:27.000 What was his name, that guy? 0.96
00:05:29.000 Jazz or some shit like that? 0.98
00:05:31.000 What was his name? 0.97
00:05:31.000 His name was Jax. 0.97
00:05:32.000 I forgot.
00:05:33.000 Yeah, Jax, Jax.
00:05:35.000 And I said, let's stop in Jackson, get a tattoo, and like rep the cause.
00:05:39.000 And it was like a huge posse of people.
00:05:40.000 Was the Attila with the guy with that killer beard?
00:05:42.000 Yeah, he still has that Ian, Ian Smith.
00:05:45.000 Didn't he almost go to jail?
00:05:46.000 And they bankrupted him, too.
00:05:46.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:05:48.000 Well, they took, yeah, there was a GoFundMe.
00:05:50.000 They raised like a quarter million bucks, and then the state came in and like fleeced all the dough.
00:05:55.000 Unbelievable, right? 0.92
00:05:56.000 It's like a freaking communist country we live in now. 0.97
00:05:58.000 It's unreal. 0.95
00:05:59.000 And he's right across the river from Philadelphia, like literally.
00:06:01.000 Yeah, I think we flew into Philly.
00:06:03.000 Sorry, I keep looking at Paula because she knows that.
00:06:04.000 Okay, but he's right.
00:06:05.000 Paula is like my surrogate brain.
00:06:07.000 I store very little information.
00:06:08.000 Is that right?
00:06:09.000 She stores all of it. 0.88
00:06:10.000 She has to feed me stuff during the show.
00:06:13.000 And we had Ian on our podcast.
00:06:15.000 So, Dan, you're doing three hours of radio day and podcasting.
00:06:18.000 You're hosting a Fox show, FoxNation.com, just in case anyone's curious.
00:06:21.000 Thank you.
00:06:21.000 You're speaking here at Turning Point USA Student Action Summit.
00:06:24.000 You have biceps that, again, it's kind of needed to be categorized in its own stratosphere.
00:06:31.000 How do you balance it all?
00:06:32.000 I don't.
00:06:34.000 I'm losing my mind.
00:06:35.000 I'm trying now to kind of triage my needs and find out what we're going to stick with and what we're not.
00:06:41.000 But, you know, it's tough. 0.99
00:06:43.000 I mean, you know, the cancer thing really kicked my ass. 0.99
00:06:47.000 I mean, bad. 0.99
00:06:48.000 Were you doing okay?
00:06:49.000 Yeah, I'm doing okay.
00:06:50.000 And if I had to review, you know, cancer on Amazon, I always say two thumbs down.
00:06:55.000 It definitely comes not recommended.
00:06:57.000 Like, you know, don't do it. 0.99
00:06:58.000 It sucks. 0.58
00:06:59.000 But that kind of, that really sucked the energy out of me. 0.95
00:07:02.000 And the problem is, you know, when you have, you get the chemo, you get this like chemo brain.
00:07:06.000 And I got to tell you, like, I never really recovered from that.
00:07:09.000 Like, you know, when you're on chemo, it's hard to focus.
00:07:13.000 I don't know why.
00:07:14.000 They call it chemo brain, and it's real.
00:07:16.000 And it took me months to get rid of that.
00:07:17.000 And I wasn't sleeping well.
00:07:19.000 And luckily now, like, I feel good.
00:07:20.000 It's not a sob story.
00:07:21.000 Like, everyone, I'm doing okay.
00:07:23.000 You know, there are people with far worse cancers than I had stage one Hodgkins.
00:07:26.000 That's like the common cold of cancers.
00:07:28.000 So we got rid of it quick.
00:07:30.000 But I was sleeping terrible.
00:07:32.000 And lately, though, I got this aura ring.
00:07:35.000 They are not like a sponsor or anything.
00:07:37.000 I'm not like trying to shield the aura ring.
00:07:39.000 But this monitors your sleep.
00:07:40.000 And I figured out things that were getting rid, getting in the way of my good sleep.
00:07:44.000 Like I was eating late.
00:07:45.000 Like me and Paula eat at like 10 o'clock at night or sometimes.
00:07:48.000 And I was like, Paula, why am I sleeping so terribly?
00:07:51.000 And I figured out, because I eat a lot.
00:07:52.000 But then you get acid reflux throughout the night without realizing it. 0.52
00:07:55.000 Yeah, I don't get much of that because my body's used to consuming mass quantities like the coneheads from the L Saturday Night Live. 1.00
00:08:00.000 But I'll eat like 20 pieces of sushi and go to bed. 0.99
00:08:03.000 You know, if you're going to put on a lot, you got to eat big.
00:08:05.000 I mean, as my bodybuilder friend said to me once, he said, the real battle's with the knife and fork.
00:08:10.000 No, but that's exactly.
00:08:11.000 So when you're lifting, you have to keep up the eating.
00:08:13.000 You got to eat like a savage, but you can't sleep at night.
00:08:15.000 So I figured out if I eat by 5.30, now my sleep is good.
00:08:19.000 And I'm feeling good now.
00:08:21.000 So you got to, would you rather have massive biceps or sleep well at night?
00:08:25.000 Sleep well, man.
00:08:26.000 See, you're a young guy, man.
00:08:28.000 You know, you're a young, when you get older.
00:08:30.000 Anyone over 40 in here?
00:08:31.000 Anyone? 1.00
00:08:33.000 Ladies, you don't have to say anything.
00:08:34.000 I'm talking to the guy specifically. 1.00
00:08:36.000 You never ask a woman her age.
00:08:37.000 You don't look, by the way, anywhere near for the record.
00:08:39.000 You look like you're in your 20s.
00:08:41.000 I'm just saying, when you hit 40, you will never sleep well.
00:08:44.000 It's like a 40-year-old thing, and it really sucks because it's like your whole life, right, Paula?
00:08:48.000 How many hours of sleep do you sleep?
00:08:50.000 Well, what the order ring said last night, because it manages your sleep.
00:08:54.000 Have you ever tried magnesium?
00:08:55.000 I'm not sure.
00:08:56.000 Yeah, I do.
00:08:56.000 ZMA.
00:08:57.000 It works really well, doesn't it?
00:08:58.000 I slept seven hours and 41 minutes last night.
00:09:00.000 That's a lot.
00:09:00.000 Okay.
00:09:01.000 Yeah, but my REM sleep wasn't very good.
00:09:03.000 It was only an hour and a half.
00:09:04.000 How many REMs do you get in?
00:09:05.000 Two or three?
00:09:07.000 It depends.
00:09:07.000 You got to look at the cycle.
00:09:08.000 It looks like I got two in.
00:09:10.000 You see the blue dots.
00:09:11.000 A true REM's like 90 minutes, right?
00:09:12.000 Yeah, that's the whole cycle.
00:09:14.000 My REM was an hour and 12 minutes total.
00:09:16.000 But deep sleep was strong, an hour and nine minutes.
00:09:19.000 That's manageable.
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00:10:26.000 Are we supposed to be talking about anything specific?
00:10:29.000 This is really important, Dan.
00:10:30.000 I know.
00:10:30.000 Talking about life.
00:10:31.000 You asked me about the workout stuff, too.
00:10:33.000 It really sets you off.
00:10:34.000 Are you a believer in CrossFit or is it all a scam?
00:10:36.000 No, CrossFit's great. 1.00
00:10:37.000 But the problem with CrossFit for me, the WADs are a killer. 0.75
00:10:40.000 I steal them sometimes. 0.94
00:10:41.000 Like, I just go out and I'll look at the couple and do them.
00:10:44.000 But the problem with CrossFit for me is I have really severe arthritis.
00:10:47.000 Like, if you're young and can slam it hard, I love CrossFit.
00:10:51.000 Which routine in particular?
00:10:53.000 Well, I used to do like the Bear Complex, which is really, you know, the push overhead, front squat, down, overhead, back squat, then a deadlift.
00:11:02.000 And my shoulders can't handle it.
00:11:03.000 Matter of fact, the last time I did the bear complex, I did the true story.
00:11:07.000 My hands were bleeding so bad from the blisters on the barks.
00:11:09.000 I didn't have any like tape or anything.
00:11:11.000 And I go to do an interview with Glenn Beck at his station in New York.
00:11:14.000 And Glenn's a great guy, but he doesn't like, you know, other people's blood on him like most human beings wouldn't, which doesn't make him unusual.
00:11:20.000 Does Glenn lift?
00:11:21.000 I don't think so.
00:11:22.000 I haven't asked him, but I'm pretty sure.
00:11:25.000 I'm just wondering.
00:11:26.000 I shake his hand and I like bleed all over his hand.
00:11:29.000 And I could see him like he was like freaked out.
00:11:31.000 And he was like, someone get me some alcohol.
00:11:33.000 The biggest problem with CrossFit are the people that do CrossFit.
00:11:35.000 They can't stop talking about it.
00:11:36.000 I know.
00:11:37.000 It's kind of like I'm a Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu guy, so I do that.
00:11:39.000 Is that right?
00:11:40.000 Yeah, I like to talk about that too.
00:11:41.000 Tell me about it.
00:11:42.000 Yeah, it's great.
00:11:42.000 Like it's, you know, your first month in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, you know, you learn how to, you know, beat like 999 guys out of a thousand in a street fight.
00:11:51.000 In the next 20 years, just learning how to fight that one badass mofo. 1.00
00:11:55.000 You went out to in the street, he was like Kimbo Slice, you know? 1.00
00:11:57.000 So it's the greatest thing ever.
00:11:59.000 But you realize, like, what you realize really interesting things about people.
00:12:02.000 You know, it's, it's, it's funny.
00:12:03.000 Like, what a great segue into the speech because I'm going to start off the speech with a Teddy Atlas quote.
00:12:08.000 I even said on a Foxing Friends this morning.
00:12:10.000 Famous boxing trainer, Teddy Atlas.
00:12:12.000 He once said, like, truth comes to people in a lot of ways, but it comes really fast to you in the ring.
00:12:16.000 Oh, I love it.
00:12:17.000 And that's the thing about Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu.
00:12:18.000 Like, you learn a lot about yourself quickly.
00:12:20.000 When you hear people say things, for instance, like, you know, people know you should never quit, you know, never go.
00:12:27.000 Listen, bro, here's the hard reality: like, when you're getting your ass kicked by a guy who outweighs you by 100 pounds and you can't breathe and you're ready to die, like everybody eventually quits, even the toughest fighters in the world.
00:12:39.000 That's not what makes you a man. 0.91
00:12:40.000 Like, people quit all the time.
00:12:42.000 Quitting has a negative connotation.
00:12:43.000 But when you're in real fights, like in real time and you can't breathe, and a guy's punching you in the face and yanking your arm out of its socket, you're like, okay, like, I got to live to fight another day.
00:12:54.000 And you start to realize that it's not who quits.
00:12:56.000 Everybody has a breaking point.
00:12:58.000 The bravest soldier in the world, if you torture him enough, is going to quit.
00:13:00.000 It doesn't make him not brave.
00:13:02.000 It's just the breaking point people have.
00:13:04.000 Like the weak people are here.
00:13:06.000 The okay people are here.
00:13:07.000 Like the good people are here.
00:13:08.000 The great people are here.
00:13:09.000 The legends are here.
00:13:11.000 And then the icons are here.
00:13:12.000 Like they don't quit until like the seventh day.
00:13:15.000 Is that the differentiator between the okay fighters and the best fighters?
00:13:18.000 Yeah.
00:13:19.000 I mean, it was a guy, this guy, Yurka, that I rolled with. 0.78
00:13:22.000 He's a savage.
00:13:23.000 He's like, he's like not even of planet Earth.
00:13:25.000 He comes from like some alternate stream theory dimension.
00:13:28.000 He just doesn't feel pain like normal people.
00:13:30.000 So I've got huge legs.
00:13:31.000 I outweigh this dude by 20 pounds.
00:13:33.000 I have really big legs from squatting.
00:13:35.000 I get this dude in a triangle choke.
00:13:37.000 And brother, I'm telling you, this guy's face, it's not purple.
00:13:40.000 It's like black.
00:13:41.000 Like he has no blood in his face. 0.99
00:13:43.000 You did this for fun.
00:13:43.000 I'm just making it.
00:13:44.000 Yeah, I did.
00:13:45.000 I can't because of my chemo.
00:13:46.000 My chemo port's still in.
00:13:47.000 You see that?
00:13:48.000 So I can't roll.
00:13:49.000 You see that little golf ball in my chest?
00:13:51.000 So I can't roll until I get it out.
00:13:52.000 And she won't let me anyway.
00:13:54.000 And because I swear, like that contributed to some of my illness because I was always had inflammation problems.
00:13:59.000 But I'm like, yanking this guy's head.
00:14:02.000 I got him in this triangle choke.
00:14:04.000 I'm telling you, the dude's face is turning black.
00:14:07.000 He would not quit.
00:14:08.000 And eventually, my legs got tired choking this guy. 1.00
00:14:12.000 And I'm like, you believe this shit? 0.99
00:14:14.000 This guy, my legs are getting tired choking this dude out. 1.00
00:14:18.000 So eventually I have to let go and he proceeds to beat the hell out of me because I have no more gas left.
00:14:23.000 And I'm thinking like, he's lost fights, Yurka.
00:14:25.000 He has, but he's the single toughest dude I've ever met in my life.
00:14:28.000 Like he, he just was like, all right, if I pass out, I pass out.
00:14:31.000 And he just sat there in this triangle choke.
00:14:33.000 His face went from, you know, white to blue to purple to black.
00:14:37.000 And he just said, just choke me.
00:14:39.000 That's it.
00:14:39.000 I'm just not care.
00:14:40.000 And that's, that's like, that dude's like at great status, you know?
00:14:44.000 And then you get like icons, people, you know, like, you know, in the UFC, like old, remember Jens Pulver and people like that.
00:14:50.000 They were just, these guys would fight until they're like Jorge Masvedal.
00:14:54.000 Freaking guy's been knocked out one time.
00:14:56.000 He's on my show on Unfiltered. 0.96
00:14:57.000 I mean, the guy is a savage.
00:14:59.000 There's a street fight, a him with this Kimbo Slice's protege, Ray.
00:15:03.000 You got to watch on YouTube. 0.73
00:15:04.000 He was Kimbo Slice.
00:15:04.000 He passed away, didn't he?
00:15:05.000 He did, Kimbo.
00:15:06.000 He was badass.
00:15:07.000 But he had a protege.
00:15:08.000 He was a lefty, I think, too. 0.96
00:15:09.000 He was a savage. 0.94
00:15:09.000 Was he? 0.94
00:15:09.000 Was he a South? 0.94
00:15:10.000 I think you're right. 0.99
00:15:11.000 No, no, you're right.
00:15:12.000 Because he would come in like this.
00:15:13.000 Yeah, you're right.
00:15:13.000 He's a lefty.
00:15:14.000 Knows his stuff.
00:15:15.000 But he had a protege, this guy Ray.
00:15:17.000 And Masvedal used to fight him.
00:15:19.000 And this guy, Ray, was tough.
00:15:20.000 He rarely, if ever, lost a fight. 1.00
00:15:21.000 Masvedal whooped his ass twice. 1.00
00:15:23.000 In the street. 1.00
00:15:24.000 In the street, bare knuckle, bro.
00:15:26.000 No, nothing.
00:15:26.000 No mouth guards.
00:15:27.000 No, Masvedal is badass, like legit.
00:15:30.000 Not like UFC badass.
00:15:32.000 I mean like legit badass.
00:15:35.000 So I respect that.
00:15:36.000 I respect guys, you know, who can who can throw down.
00:15:40.000 There's a lot of different things I want to get to.
00:15:42.000 In addition to all of this very important stuff, how do we solve the war on men in our country?
00:15:48.000 Speaking of hyper-masculine things, like.
00:15:50.000 Yeah. 1.00
00:15:51.000 You know, because last time I was in a Brazilian chokehold with somebody, it actually worked well. 1.00
00:15:55.000 Well, you know, no one's asked me that question before. 1.00
00:16:00.000 And I think it starts with the indoctrination process early.
00:16:04.000 Obviously, we failed.
00:16:05.000 Let's stop pretending.
00:16:06.000 See, you know, Andrew Breitbart said, you know, politics is downstream of culture.
00:16:10.000 And Breitbart was a very smart guy.
00:16:12.000 I know you probably knew him.
00:16:14.000 Actually, I didn't.
00:16:14.000 He passed away right before I got involved.
00:16:16.000 I wrote my first article for Breitbart.com.
00:16:18.000 I met him one time at an early CPAC when it was still at the Marriott Wardman.
00:16:21.000 He was with Ted Cruz.
00:16:22.000 Remember that?
00:16:23.000 The old days?
00:16:24.000 And he used to say that politics was downstream of culture.
00:16:27.000 The political war is useless if we don't fight the culture.
00:16:29.000 It's obvious.
00:16:30.000 Let's just get through that.
00:16:31.000 We've failed in the culture.
00:16:32.000 We have.
00:16:33.000 The war on men is probably the single most destructive thing out there, along with the entire idea that kids don't need fathers.
00:16:39.000 I mean, I grew up in a divorced family.
00:16:41.000 It's not a sob story, whatever.
00:16:43.000 My wife and I were talking about it last week because something happened with my mom.
00:16:46.000 But dads are different.
00:16:48.000 They roughhouse their kids.
00:16:50.000 Kids learn that they can be physical without being violent.
00:16:53.000 There are things fathers do.
00:16:55.000 And this war on men and teaching kids that roughhousing is bad.
00:16:58.000 Like, remember, when we were kids, they call it, what they call horseplay or something.
00:17:01.000 Oh, you know, don't do that anymore.
00:17:03.000 You know, that's like whatever, male, white supremacy, male dominance, you know, the white male patriarchy, knowledge is a construct of power, critical race theory, BS.
00:17:11.000 It's going to take a long time to from, I mean, rip it out from the roots and start from scratch.
00:17:17.000 And, you know, where does it start?
00:17:18.000 Because you need action plans.
00:17:20.000 You can't just talk a bunch of smack.
00:17:22.000 It starts in the schools of education.
00:17:24.000 Who's donating to their college?
00:17:25.000 You donate into your college.
00:17:27.000 I always ask people, why?
00:17:28.000 Why are you donating to your college?
00:17:29.000 I went to Penn State.
00:17:30.000 I don't give them a dime.
00:17:31.000 I love Penn State.
00:17:31.000 I went to the business school.
00:17:32.000 When Penn State hires a bunch of conservatives, I'll donate.
00:17:35.000 And once we start retraining the entire culture from the start to re-embrace this country, patriotism, manliness, and the good things about manliness, and we re-embrace the sheepdog mentality, like Dave Grossman writes about.
00:17:49.000 So Dave Grossman wrote this book.
00:17:51.000 He was an army officer called On Killing.
00:17:53.000 The book is literally about killing and what actual killing and war is like.
00:17:57.000 It's an amazing book.
00:17:58.000 It was a bestseller.
00:17:59.000 It's an eye-opening book.
00:18:00.000 You read it, you'll never look at it.
00:18:01.000 It should be mandatory reading for law enforcement everywhere.
00:18:05.000 And in the book, he talks about there are wolves in society, genuinely evil people, right?
00:18:10.000 And then there are sheep, people who are just going to be preyed on.
00:18:12.000 They're just weak.
00:18:13.000 It happens, unfortunately.
00:18:15.000 You know, I wish it didn't, but it did.
00:18:16.000 But he said, in between the sheeps and the wolves are the sheepdogs.
00:18:20.000 And the sheepdogs are the men.
00:18:21.000 Think of this war on men.
00:18:22.000 They're the men and even the women out there who are willing to put their butts on the line, you know, put a shield on their chest, or they don't have to be a cop or in the military.
00:18:31.000 You're the guy in the gas station when some woman's getting beaten up and robbed.
00:18:35.000 You could walk away and you're like, not today. 0.99
00:18:37.000 And I'm going to go knowing you could get stabbed. 1.00
00:18:40.000 And those are the sheepdogs. 1.00
00:18:41.000 And we need more sheepdogs.
00:18:43.000 But you're not going to get sheepdogs teaching kids in third grade that, you know, roughhouse and horseplay and playing guns is, you know, is somehow going to turn them into serial murders.
00:18:52.000 I played guns growing up.
00:18:54.000 I promise you, I haven't killed anyone, nor do I have the desire to, just for the record.
00:18:57.000 I mean, I played guns.
00:18:58.000 I had the Jaguar Matic.
00:19:00.000 I remember it was a cap gun.
00:19:01.000 And, you know, bang, bang, we got, that's what we did growing up.
00:19:04.000 I mean, we acted like boys.
00:19:06.000 We put mattresses on skateboards and used to roll them down hills into traffic.
00:19:10.000 And my mom was like, everyone okay?
00:19:11.000 Like, it's all good.
00:19:12.000 I mean, we used to take a spongeball, a bat, and a glove, leave at nine o'clock in the morning, come back at like 10 at night.
00:19:18.000 We'd eat Mr. Softy for lunch.
00:19:20.000 Yeah.
00:19:21.000 Yeah.
00:19:21.000 And sometimes we didn't even do that.
00:19:22.000 And my mom was like, whatevs, if you're all right, you're all right.
00:19:27.000 Look, I know a lot of you are pushing back against vegan culture.
00:19:32.000 Now, maybe you're vegan, and that's fine.
00:19:34.000 I do that sometimes too.
00:19:35.000 You know, sometimes I get the fake burgers and all this.
00:19:37.000 But when I do that with my wife, I have to be honest, I feel to myself, I miss the real meat.
00:19:43.000 Do you know that you might be eating Chinese meat?
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00:20:04.000 But if you all of a sudden want your neighbors to be clamoring and chattering, whispering and gossiping and saying, I wish I had what the Smiths or the Joneses or the Schmucktenbergers or any of the other people have, then all of a sudden you want them to say, I am so unbelievably ready.
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00:21:16.000 I guess we'll go to Applebee's.
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00:22:13.000 So, but the other side, Dan, will say that was awful.
00:22:15.000 It was unsafe and it was dangerous.
00:22:17.000 Now we mask our six-year-olds.
00:22:19.000 Why is that America desirable again?
00:22:21.000 A risk-taking, a daring America that kind of just allows kids to develop in kind of a natural habitat.
00:22:29.000 You're a good interviewer.
00:22:30.000 See, I'm a really terrible interview.
00:22:33.000 I just had this conversation with Fox the other day.
00:22:34.000 I'm like, I got to work on my, you're really, those are good questions.
00:22:38.000 It's not, because when you ask people in polls about things like political correctness, which let's be honest, encompasses this idea that, you know, manliness is inherently dangerous, it never polls well.
00:22:48.000 But we all do it as a form of public virtue signaling.
00:22:51.000 You know, I think it's to avoid punishment.
00:22:54.000 I think we tell our friends that and we, you know, we attack manhood and things like that because we want to be popular at the foie gras cocktail party.
00:23:02.000 You know, they're not, these people aren't doing Jaeger bombs.
00:23:05.000 They're drinking like champagne and stuff.
00:23:07.000 And they're like, well, you know, Joey Beg of Donuts here, if I say that, he'll think I'm some kind of conservative, you know, MAGA supporter.
00:23:12.000 So we just agree.
00:23:13.000 But quietly behind the scenes, when you take these polls, people realize like things like CRT, political correctness, and all this other BS, you know, the, what do we call them?
00:23:22.000 Like the angel parent, no, the helicopter parents.
00:23:26.000 We all know it's bad.
00:23:27.000 I mean, we all knew we grew up in a different generation where you learned to grow up fast.
00:23:32.000 I mean, listen, and Paula's story's crazy.
00:23:34.000 They came here with nothing from Columbia.
00:23:36.000 I mean, she was taking trains in the Bronx when she was like 13 years old.
00:23:39.000 Like, no, she didn't have a bodyguard or anything like that.
00:23:42.000 And yet we coddle our kids.
00:23:43.000 But I mean, honestly, Charlie, I'm guilty of it too.
00:23:45.000 You know, I got two kids and, you know, I don't, you know, my kids, you want to protect them from everything.
00:23:51.000 You're afraid they're going to get kidnapped and stuff.
00:23:53.000 So what's the balance thing?
00:23:54.000 Because so many parents say, I remember how it used to be, but then they get extraordinarily paranoid.
00:23:58.000 They're like, well, they could get kidnapped.
00:24:00.000 They could run into traffic.
00:24:01.000 And then I would have to live with the guilt and the responsibility.
00:24:04.000 Why was your parents?
00:24:05.000 Why were your parents okay with you kind of just going down some hill?
00:24:08.000 And you grew up in New Jersey, right?
00:24:09.000 New York.
00:24:10.000 Yeah, New York, just kind of going down some hill and like, oh, hope it works out for you.
00:24:13.000 What changed?
00:24:14.000 I think it was the advent of video platforms, phone cameras, and social media.
00:24:18.000 I think you're right.
00:24:19.000 Where you get a kid that's, I mean, what was that thing we just saw, Paul, up in New York, right?
00:24:23.000 The kid was going to get kidnapped.
00:24:25.000 And we see it. 0.99
00:24:26.000 We're like, holy crap, this is real. 0.99
00:24:27.000 Like, these kids are getting kidnapped. 0.97
00:24:29.000 The hard reality is the chances of your kid getting kidnapped are like, thank God, not going to win like one in a million.
00:24:34.000 But we see it and we think it's real because it's in front of us.
00:24:37.000 We're visual creatures.
00:24:38.000 But you asked where the balance was.
00:24:40.000 And listen, I'm going to, I'll be candid with you and your people.
00:24:43.000 I haven't found it.
00:24:44.000 I'm terrified about my daughter.
00:24:46.000 Even in my, I live in a super safe neighborhood.
00:24:48.000 I mean, we have our own cops.
00:24:50.000 It's like, it's, it's like a Brinks truck, this neighborhood. 0.99
00:24:53.000 We haven't had a, I think there was a car break in there like seven years ago or something. 1.00
00:24:57.000 That's it.
00:24:58.000 And, you know, there's a street my daughter runs down. 0.61
00:25:01.000 And I tell her, you're not allowed to run that air alone, which is, I mean, candidly ridiculous, but I haven't found the balance.
00:25:07.000 I'd love to tell you, oh, Dan Bogito, I figured it out, but I haven't.
00:25:10.000 I'm a dad.
00:25:11.000 And I think having been a cop and a secret service agent kind of hurts because you see some really bad stuff, brother.
00:25:17.000 I mean, we had the child pornography unit was in the secret service through NICMIC, the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children.
00:25:23.000 We ran that.
00:25:24.000 Man, you can't, you know, you can't look at that and not change.
00:25:28.000 Like you, you get paranoid real fast.
00:25:32.000 You can't.
00:25:32.000 You just, you know, it's kids, man.
00:25:33.000 It's kids.
00:25:34.000 Like, crimes on adults are bad enough.
00:25:36.000 But, you know, defenseless kids, it changes you, man.
00:25:39.000 That's why the guys in the unit cycle out after a few months.
00:25:41.000 You can't look at that stuff.
00:25:43.000 It just rewires your brain.
00:25:45.000 Last question.
00:25:45.000 Then I got to bring you up on stage because they're clamoring for Dan Bongino upstairs.
00:25:49.000 Was it harder to be a Secret Service agent or to do what you're doing now?
00:25:54.000 You know, this can sound crazy, but what we're doing now, you know, the Secret Service, you just, you go on autopilot, man.
00:26:02.000 I mean, you train, you train, you know, to do a job to handle the big six, the tactical, medical, chembio, IED, airborne fire emergencies.
00:26:10.000 You train to do it and you do it.
00:26:12.000 You know, I always used to argue with people about, you know, the heroism of policing and being a federal agent starts when you sign up.
00:26:19.000 You know, like that's it.
00:26:20.000 Like you don't think like, you don't go to work like, oh, look, I'm going to be a hero.
00:26:23.000 You just go to work.
00:26:24.000 Like when you decide that that was the real heroism, right?
00:26:28.000 So you don't think, but this job stresses me out more because I feel a responsibility, man.
00:26:33.000 I mean, between you and me, between Fox, your radio show, mine, and both of our podcasts and your turning point, Charlie, we're probably talking to seriously, like 10 million people.
00:26:42.000 I'm not showing that.
00:26:43.000 It's not hyperbolic.
00:26:43.000 That's like real.
00:26:44.000 Direct routine.
00:26:45.000 Direct.
00:26:45.000 Right.
00:26:46.000 Who got God only knows what Facebook and United States?
00:26:48.000 Yeah.
00:26:48.000 I mean, that's a big responsibility.
00:26:50.000 And you're fighting to fight for them.
00:26:51.000 And you damn well better do it right. 0.61
00:26:53.000 Thank you. 0.90
00:26:53.000 Dan, we got to get you back on. 0.90
00:26:54.000 All right, brother.
00:26:55.000 And we need to get the specific routine.
00:26:57.000 The workout routine.
00:26:58.000 Yeah, I'll give it to you, man.
00:26:59.000 I'll give you.
00:27:00.000 I'm serious.
00:27:00.000 I'll give you a good one.
00:27:01.000 It's called dog crap training. 0.98
00:27:02.000 Is that right? 0.99
00:27:03.000 Yeah, yeah. 1.00
00:27:03.000 D-O-G-G. 1.00
00:27:04.000 I'm dead serious. 1.00
00:27:05.000 Look it up.
00:27:06.000 So it's a funny name for me.
00:27:07.000 They need Dan to get on stage.
00:27:08.000 Tell him they could fight him.
00:27:10.000 Charlie Kirk here.
00:27:11.000 Thanks, Dan.
00:27:12.000 See you guys.
00:27:13.000 Great.
00:27:13.000 Thanks.
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