The Charlie Kirk Show - Making Sense of the Madness

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00:02:53.000 Hey, everybody, Charlie Kirk here.

00:02:55.000 Joined again by Isabel Brown.

00:02:58.000 Thanks for having me, Charlie.

00:02:59.000 You bet we're going to have some fun today.

00:03:01.000 I'm going to do my best not to completely lose my voice as the great Rush Limbaugh says, bear with me as I fight through just not trying to lose all my vocal cords.

00:03:14.000 I want to take a step back here.

00:03:15.000 There's a lot of people that are talking about what happened in Washington, D.C. a couple of days ago, two days ago, and we were actually here live as it happened.

00:03:24.000 I encourage all of you guys to go back in YouTube and watch about how we were reacting in real time.

00:03:29.000 A lot of our predictions actually came true.

00:03:32.000 But a lot of people said, are now saying on cable television, sedition and insurrection will not be tolerated under any circumstances.

00:03:41.000 I agree with that completely.

00:03:44.000 And now whether what happened on the Capitol is insurrection or sedition will be up for a court or for law enforcement to decide.

00:03:53.000 However, we do have a clear-cut example of insurrection and sedition that happened in just the last six months.

00:04:03.000 It wasn't denounced, it was platformed by the left.

00:04:09.000 It wasn't repudiated, it was lifted up.

00:04:12.000 Remember when not a couple dozen people, many of whom were probably professional leftist agitators and very far, far-right fringe people that call themselves Trump supporters, but they've never been given that title by anyone except themselves.

00:04:31.000 They're self-described in their own mind.

00:04:34.000 Stormed the Capitol.

00:04:36.000 Remember when there was a new country formed in America?

00:04:42.000 Do you remember when a group of actual insurrectionists did more than go into the Capitol of the United States for a couple hours and were quickly cleared out?

00:04:58.000 No, no, no, no.

00:05:00.000 Do you remember when a country was formed?

00:05:05.000 This was something that, even according to Don Lemon, hurt Democrats in their polling.

00:05:11.000 I'm, of course, talking about what was for a short period of time the 51st state in the Union, the Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone.

00:05:21.000 For those of you that live in Seattle, Washington, you know exactly what I'm talking about.

00:05:26.000 Back in June, after the death of George Floyd, a new country was formed in Seattle called the Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone.

00:05:38.000 The zone was a new country.

00:05:40.000 It was a couple blocks in size.

00:05:44.000 The zone was a self-organized space.

00:05:47.000 This is how Wikipedia describes it.

00:05:49.000 It's so wonderfully glamorous.

00:05:51.000 Without any official leadership, protesters united behind three main demands.

00:05:57.000 Cut Seattle's 409 police budget by 50%, $409 million police budget by 50%.

00:06:02.000 Shift funding to community programs and services in historically black communities and ensure that protesters would not be charged with crimes. 0.88

00:06:10.000 Interesting.

00:06:13.000 Chaz became the focus of national attention.

00:06:17.000 At Turning Point USA, we sent Benny Johnson and Colton Duncan as undercover journalists, and we did a piece of film in Chaz.

00:06:27.000 Despite best efforts by police, they were not allowed to go into Chaz.

00:06:32.000 This was described by the mayor and by many other officials as a summer of love, as a wonderful display of art and music.

00:06:44.000 It's called the No Cop Co-op on June the 10th.

00:06:48.000 They had the People's Garden in Cal Anderson Park.

00:06:53.000 People came from all over.

00:06:55.000 Finally, this is the Paris Commune that we have been dreaming of.

00:07:00.000 Of course, eroding national city and state sovereignty and creating their own country.

00:07:06.000 It was written about wonderfully by, let's just say poetically, by over-educated, Marxist journalists.

00:07:21.000 And then like all acts of actual insurrection, things started to go poorly.

00:07:32.000 In fact, they went tragically.

00:07:35.000 You see, as we predicted, as soon as people start to form their own country in defiance to city, state, local, and national orders and not allow police in whatsoever, You are then going to have a hierarchy replace whatever pre-existed it with vigilantes and criminals. 0.52

00:07:59.000 On June 20th, early in the morning, two people were shot in Chaz, the leftist paradise of the Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone. 0.53

00:08:09.000 On June 21st, another shooting occurred.

00:08:13.000 17-year-old male was treated for a gunshot wound.

00:08:17.000 He survived.

00:08:19.000 On June 23rd, a third shooting occurred in Chas.

00:08:24.000 And then on June 29th, Antonio Mays Jr., a 16-year-old black male, was murdered.

00:08:36.000 He was murdered in a place that was designed by Black Lives Matter Incorporated, BLM Incorporated.

00:08:50.000 Do you know that no people have been arrested in connection to the 16-year-old Antonio Mays Jr. as of today?

00:08:56.000 And if anyone can correct me on that, please email me, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:09:02.000 Where was the media calling the Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone a deadly protest, a deadly insurrection?

00:09:11.000 This was more than a couple of agitators and professional troublemakers going into the United States Capitol and smashing windows.

00:09:26.000 And by the way, just so that we are very clear, we're not exactly sure how on earth it was justified for that police officer to fire and discharge his weapon at Ashley Babbitt.

00:09:41.000 However, we are about to see hundreds of arrests of anyone that walked into the United States Capitol.

00:09:54.000 For anyone that did lead the charge, plan this, plant pipe bombs, smash windows, they should be arrested, absolutely.

00:10:05.000 But it's almost a guarantee that the prosecutions are going to go over the top.

00:10:09.000 People are talking about using rarely used parts of the United States Criminal Code of sedition.

00:10:22.000 And whether or not that is the correct course of action, we'll see.

00:10:26.000 But it doesn't get much higher than that.

00:10:29.000 The only thing that would be higher would be treason, which would only be applicable if these were government employees.

00:10:36.000 However, to this day, 16-year-old black male Antonio Mays Jr. is not living.

00:10:42.000 We don't know who did it.

00:10:44.000 Police have made no arrests in any of the shootings since June 20th in that new country at the Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone in Seattle. 0.76

00:10:53.000 And the left justified it.

00:10:57.000 The left covered up for it.

00:11:00.000 And that sort of insurrection was perfectly acceptable to them.

00:11:06.000 But why is it that what happened yesterday was met with widespread, not yesterday, two days ago, widespread bipartisan condemnation, but not the Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone.

00:11:23.000 The reason is what happened on Wednesday is a narrative confirmation bias.

00:11:33.000 We could not have designed, which we didn't, a Optic and set of sequences and circumstances that fit everything that the Democrats and the left were hyperbolically saying would happen.

00:11:55.000 A white nationalist insurrection in the country.

00:11:59.000 And so, because of that, they are now using this as an excuse to expand the surveillance state, expand the security state, and try to eliminate anything or anyone that was ever associated with President Donald Trump's political movement over the last five years.

00:12:20.000 President Trump has tweeted he will not attend Joe Biden's inauguration.

00:12:25.000 Isabel, it seems as if some Democrats have said a lot of Democrats didn't come to the inauguration back in 2017.

00:12:32.000 Right.

00:12:32.000 This idea of boycotting an inauguration over political reasons is not new, so don't let the media tell you that it is.

00:12:38.000 We saw literally pages and pages worth of individuals who were publicly elected officials boycotting President Donald Trump's inauguration way back when in 2017.

00:12:48.000 California Representative Karen Bass, Representative Alma Adams, Representative Don Beyer from Virginia, Representative Anthony Brown from Maryland.

00:12:56.000 I could go literally on and on and on.

00:12:58.000 And so it's nothing new for Democrats to boycott inauguration.

00:13:02.000 They're going to say, this is unprecedented.

00:13:03.000 This is terrible.

00:13:04.000 And yet they applauded it when Democrats did.

00:13:07.000 The Heroes Act way back when in 2017.

00:13:09.000 That's exactly a stand and not attend.

00:13:12.000 So also, the House of Representatives is entertaining impeachment against the President of the United States.

00:13:20.000 Trump cabinet member on the 25th Amendment, We're Not Doing It, says that Trump wants a smooth transition.

00:13:28.000 Members of Trump's cabinet have no plans to invoke the 25th Amendment, which means that almost assuredly by next week, the House of Representatives will impeach President Trump in a Soviet-style impeachment.

00:13:41.000 That's Mark Levin's description for something the president did call for peaceful demonstrations, and they're going to try and eliminate publicly in a show trial his political career all in one kind of fell swoop, you could say, next week in the House of Representatives.

00:14:01.000 And we'll see if the Senate also takes this up.

00:14:05.000 And so he will also, the President of the United States, President Trump, will be the fourth president not to attend the inauguration.

00:14:13.000 John Adams, John Quincy Adams, and Andrew Jackson also part of that category as well.

00:14:20.000 So it's not as if this is the first president ever to do that.

00:14:24.000 The president gave a video message last evening.

00:14:27.000 I want to play that for those of you that have not heard it, where he addressed this head-on.

00:14:31.000 Let's play the message from the president of the United States.

00:14:35.000 I would like to begin by addressing the heinous attack on the United States Capitol.

00:14:41.000 Like all Americans, I am outraged by the violence, lawlessness, and mayhem.

00:14:47.000 I immediately deployed the National Guard and federal law enforcement to secure the building and expel the intruders.

00:14:55.000 America is and must always be a nation of law and order.

00:15:01.000 And I think we have another clip here as well.

00:15:07.000 Let's play that.

00:15:08.000 The demonstrators who infiltrated the Capitol have defiled the seat of American democracy.

00:15:14.000 To those who engage in the acts of violence and destruction, you do not represent our country.

00:15:21.000 And to those who broke the law, you will pay.

00:15:24.000 We have just been through an intense election and emotions are high.

00:15:29.000 But now tempers must be cooled.

00:15:32.000 And so the president also said, and I don't know if we have this or not.

00:15:37.000 He said, those who engaged in violence, these people do not represent our country.

00:15:42.000 To those who broke the law, you will pay.

00:15:44.000 Do we have that clip as well?

00:15:46.000 Or I think we're loading that one up.

00:15:51.000 We're also getting the clip where the president said that he is going to order a seamless transition between the current administration and the Biden administration that is coming in.

00:16:06.000 Continue to email us your questions, freedom at charliekirk.com, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:16:11.000 A lot of people are asking us about what exactly is the course of action here.

00:16:18.000 There are also people that are asking about some things that are floating around regarding potential next steps for the president and some things happening overseas.

00:16:28.000 We are looking into that, and I hope we'll be able to shed some light on that later this hour or the next hour as well.

00:16:36.000 I want to can you help build out exactly where the president yesterday said that he is going to order a seamless transition.

00:16:47.000 This is kind of a new, this is a tonal shift, right?

00:16:51.000 This is the first time he's actually acknowledged that.

00:16:53.000 Certainly within the last few days, absolutely.

00:16:56.000 And I think just seeing that big tonal shift between a few days ago and now what we're seeing last night and today really signifies that we are moving through a peaceful transition of power.

00:17:05.000 Of course, you won't hear that on social media, especially with his accounts being shut down.

00:17:09.000 But I think there's definitely conflicting narratives between this continued power struggle we're hearing about in the media and what's actually playing out right before our eyes.

00:17:17.000 Yeah, I completely agree with that.

00:17:19.000 We're getting lots of emails here at freedom at charliekirk.com asking for some clarity of what is exactly happening overseas in Italy, and we are looking very closely at that.

00:17:33.000 But first, I want to play the president's remarks yesterday in its complete unedited fashion.

00:17:42.000 And then I want you guys to continue to email us your thoughts and feedback.

00:17:46.000 Let's play the president.

00:17:48.000 I would like to begin by addressing the heinous attack on the United States Capitol.

00:17:53.000 Like all Americans, I am outraged by the violence, lawlessness, and mayhem.

00:17:59.000 I immediately deployed the National Guard and federal law enforcement to secure the building and expel the intruders.

00:18:08.000 America is and must always be a nation of law and order.

00:18:13.000 The demonstrators who infiltrated the Capitol have defiled the seat of American democracy.

00:18:20.000 To those who engaged in the acts of violence and destruction, you do not represent our country.

00:18:27.000 And to those who broke the law, you will pay.

00:18:30.000 We have just been through an intense election and emotions are high.

00:18:35.000 But now tempers must be cooled and calm restored.

00:18:39.000 We must get on with the business of America.

00:18:43.000 My campaign vigorously pursued every legal avenue to contest the election results.

00:18:50.000 My only goal was to ensure the integrity of the vote.

00:18:54.000 In so doing, I was fighting to defend American democracy.

00:18:59.000 I continue to strongly believe that we must reform our election laws to verify the identity and eligibility of all voters and to ensure faith and confidence in all future elections.

00:19:13.000 Now Congress has certified the results.

00:19:16.000 A new administration will be inaugurated on January 20th.

00:19:19.000 My focus now turns to ensuring a smooth, orderly, and seamless transition of power.

00:19:26.000 This moment calls for healing and reconciliation.

00:19:30.000 2020 has been a challenging time for our people.

00:19:33.000 A menacing pandemic has upended the lives of our citizens, isolated millions in their homes, damaged our economy, and claimed countless lives.

00:19:43.000 Defeating this pandemic and rebuilding the greatest economy on earth will require all of us working together.

00:19:51.000 It will require a renewed emphasis on the civic values of patriotism, faith, charity, community, and family.

00:20:00.000 We must revitalize the sacred bonds of love and loyalty that bind us together as one national family.

00:20:08.000 To the citizens of our country, serving as your president has been the honor of my lifetime.

00:20:14.000 And to all of my wonderful supporters, I know you are disappointed, but I also want you to know that our incredible journey is only just beginning.

00:20:25.000 Thank you.

00:20:26.000 God bless you, and God bless America.

00:20:30.000 So that is the President of the United States yesterday, who was for the first time talking about a seamless transition and thanking his supporters for everything and the amount of success that has been achieved thanks to really his presidency and what they've been able to do.

00:20:50.000 So I want to get into this in a very factual way.

00:20:54.000 We've probably received, I would say, 5,000 to 6,000 emails asking about what is happening in Italy.

00:21:02.000 And I am a fan, even though he was somewhat of an atheist, of David Hume.

00:21:07.000 David Hume, the great skeptic, really did a lot to liberate the Western mind, in my opinion.

00:21:14.000 He had a great quote that says, I am ready to reject all preexisting belief and reasoning and can look upon no opinion even as more probable or likely than another.

00:21:25.000 One of the most dangerous logical fallacies and traps that happen is to dismiss everything always if the media is not reporting it.

00:21:37.000 Now, with that being said, there is some wacky stuff that people send us at freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:21:43.000 And you look at it independently, rationally, and think through it.

00:21:47.000 And so I just want to go through this.

00:21:48.000 And I'm not going to, I can't confirm many parts of this, but some of this does look legitimate.

00:21:55.000 And Laura Logan has tweeted some of this out.

00:21:59.000 So the essence of this, of what is kind of heating up the internet tonight, just to kind of give you some idea of what's happening out here.

00:22:07.000 Allegedly, there is an affidavit from an Italian court of a cybersecurity employee working for a company called Leonardo, has said he loaded up the software, which used satellites to switch the votes.

00:22:21.000 Using the satellites is the key part, he claims, that went around the normal fiber lines, which apparently makes a difference.

00:22:29.000 A signal shot from Frankfurt to Italian-owned satellites was then transmitted to the U.S. to allegedly switch votes on Dominion systems from Trump to Biden.

00:22:43.000 It then goes back to Dominion machines, which allegedly they say they were not connected to the internet.

00:22:51.000 The allegation is that, yes, they were connected, but it was via satellite.

00:22:57.000 This individual, allegedly, during an interrogation, admitted the whole plot involving the satellites, the vote switching, etc.

00:23:09.000 The narrative is that they were motivated to come forward, apparently, because of the debt that they felt Italy owed the United States for World War II.

00:23:20.000 The affidavit, which we have not been able to independently verify, but Lara Logan did tweet out, is something of the essence that this individual signed and declared in Rome, Italy.

00:23:34.000 Other people have confirmed this story.

00:23:37.000 Patrick Byrne, other people.

00:23:39.000 We take everything with a skeptical point of view.

00:23:43.000 I'm willing to entertain all sorts of opinions and viewpoints.

00:23:46.000 I'm not going to instantaneously dismiss anything, especially after all the nonsense that we have seen.

00:23:53.000 But just to reinforce the weight and the gravity of exactly what we're talking about here, we're talking about a multi-country potential effort to blast up votes down to the United States into Dominion voting system machines.

00:24:12.000 And so we're getting lots of emails about this, and we are going to spend a good amount of time asking about this and looking into it over the weekend.

00:24:22.000 And some people, Congressman, I think, Louis Gohmert, has he commented on it?

00:24:27.000 Is that right?

00:24:28.000 Is that the right way to, he has commented on it.

00:24:32.000 And so I think that one of the things that is most important when you encounter stories like this is just to always ask for more facts and ask questions.

00:24:44.000 What makes us informed, what makes us different than just following the normal party line is our capacity to reason, to think analytically.

00:24:58.000 And as Rene Descartes famously said, I think, therefore, I am.

00:25:03.000 And just don't throw out things instantaneously, but also when things start to not add up.

00:25:07.000 For example, we received an email yesterday, probably from a very good patriot, who said that Mike Pence was in Guantamano Bay facing execution scheduled today.

00:25:18.000 I could tell you that is not true.

00:25:21.000 And so I looked at it, I thought of this analytically, and then I said, well, no, that's not true.

00:25:28.000 And so not comparing one thing to the other.

00:25:31.000 I'm just saying that sometimes in the new internet age, there is, I've used this word a couple times, deluge of things that ends up happening there.

00:25:41.000 Okay, so I wanted to cover that.

00:25:42.000 And if you guys have more questions about that, we can cover it.

00:25:45.000 Freedom at CharlieKirk.com.

00:25:47.000 But I know that that's been heating up the internet a little bit the last couple of days.

00:25:52.000 Isabel, what are you reading?

00:25:54.000 What are you looking at?

00:25:56.000 What's on your mind?

00:25:57.000 So as predicted from the last few days, obviously, Charlie, we've been in this studio pretty much nonstop for the last three days or so, just taking everything as it comes in real time and analyzing sort of what we predict the next few days might look like as we get closer.

00:26:11.000 We predicted that things might get a little crazier when it comes to the rhetoric against Trump supporters, specifically against the president and against individuals on Capitol Hill who objected to the Electoral College vote.

00:26:22.000 Right now, we're seeing a lot of that, especially on social media.

00:26:26.000 As of a few minutes ago, the hashtag Trump is a domestic terrorist was the number one trending topic on Twitter this morning.

00:26:34.000 Another very highly trending topic at number four is hashtag Ted CruzKilled a cop, hashtag MAGA terrorism.

00:26:41.000 This rhetoric that all of a sudden I think is going to continue more deeply dividing the United States is really heating up and becoming significantly more serious in the allegations and finger pointing of what we're calling each other.

00:26:53.000 It's no longer I disagree with you.

00:26:55.000 It's because I disagree with you. 0.99

00:26:57.000 You're automatically a terrorist.

00:26:58.000 Yeah, and so let me, it's really, it's really a fascinating thing.

00:27:02.000 So there's a couple groups of people.

00:27:04.000 We receive a lot of emails and feedback from people where people say, I love what happened at the Capitol.

00:27:09.000 I say, hold on a second, time out.

00:27:11.000 If you're a Trump supporter, you love what happened at the Capitol, probably doesn't strengthen your argument that Antifa was at the Capitol, right?

00:27:17.000 Just trying, you can't hold, you can't all of a sudden be like, yes, I was cheering those people on, and also it was all Antifa.

00:27:23.000 So it doesn't exactly help the argument there.

00:27:23.000 Right.

00:27:26.000 That's number one.

00:27:27.000 Number two, let's talk about who was actually there.

00:27:30.000 Viking man, okay?

00:27:32.000 Not an Antifa guy.

00:27:33.000 He is someone that has been at Trump supporter rallies before.

00:27:38.000 And based on his social media posts, Viking man, who apparently was a shaman, that's what I was told, as something of that variety, was a Trump supporter.

00:27:49.000 However, there have been reports.

00:27:52.000 There was one gentleman that was there who will probably be arrested very soon, who was from Utah, who was a professional instigator and agitator.

00:28:01.000 He just, he went to, he went to far-right rallies, he went to far-left rallies.

00:28:06.000 He is a non-ideological guy that's always just looking for a fight, probably has manic depressant, sociopathic tendencies.

00:28:13.000 And to just loop him in as a Trump supporter is very unfair.

00:28:17.000 Okay, so that would reinforce the argument there.

00:28:22.000 There is also a fair amount of people that would identify on the white nationalist, ethno-nationalist fringe.

00:28:29.000 They are not part of the conservative movement.

00:28:32.000 They self-describe themselves as.

00:28:34.000 One gentleman that went into Pelosi's office had a quote that was, I'm not going to even read on air, from Alabama or Arkansas, I think he is from, and he's been identified since.

00:28:48.000 There are other people, though, and this is where the nuance is important, that didn't bash windows, that didn't bring down doors, that got caught up in the heat of the moment, that followed with Trump flags up to the steps of the Capitol or went into the rotunda and then went out.

00:29:04.000 And unfortunately, I believe that many of those people are now going to be tried wrongly with terrorism charges, okay?

00:29:12.000 And I just want to be very clear that there were Trump, legitimate mainstream Trump supporters there.

00:29:18.000 There was a vast majority, there was a lot of professional instigators or agitators.

00:29:23.000 And so if I were to try to build out exactly what happened, there were a lot of Trump supporters that came that planned to peacefully demonstrate.

00:29:31.000 And then these agitators that know how to get up a crowd, that know how to get emotions flowing, they were the ones that were leading the charge.

00:29:39.000 They were saying things that they know are trigger words alongside some of the ethno-nationalist people that are not part of the conservative movement.

00:29:47.000 And you have this kind of confluence of events that kind of stirred all of that up.

00:29:54.000 That is the factual, nuanced way to describe exactly what we know as of today right now.

00:29:59.000 But to say that they were all Trump supporters is completely and totally untrue.

00:30:04.000 I want to get into, I want to paint a different scenario for you.

00:30:07.000 People say, well, Charlie, were we just supposed to sit there and do nothing when they stole our election?

00:30:11.000 I said, absolutely not.

00:30:12.000 That was never my position.

00:30:14.000 I've never said that.

00:30:15.000 And I want to get into something that is nuanced but important.

00:30:22.000 The difference between civil discord and civil disobedience.

00:30:27.000 Those are two completely different things.

00:30:30.000 What happened on Wednesday, whether it was instigated or whether it was churned up or whatever you want to call it, was civil discord.

00:30:38.000 And no one, I think, should support that.

00:30:40.000 Some people do and we don't.

00:30:42.000 But what is civil disobedience?

00:30:44.000 It's something completely and totally different.

00:30:47.000 Civil disobedience has been used many times in the last 150, 200 years to effectuate mass social change that all of us would look back and we look at those people as heroes.

00:30:59.000 Civil disobedience is something completely and totally different.

00:31:02.000 Civil disobedience, by definition, is supposed to be nonviolent in nature.

00:31:07.000 Civil disobedience is never supposed to harm another person.

00:31:10.000 It can temporarily inconvenience someone.

00:31:13.000 I'll get to that in just a second.

00:31:14.000 However, it's also supposed to make a broader and bigger point.

00:31:18.000 The author of the idea of civil disobedience is someone by the name of Henry David Thoreau.

00:31:25.000 He was a transcendentalist.

00:31:27.000 I can never say that word smoothly, Isabel.

00:31:29.000 But he believed in transcendentalism.

00:31:32.000 He was inspired by Ralph Waldo Emerson, who, of course, wrote Walden in the Woods.

00:31:38.000 Or maybe Thoreau wrote Walden in the Woods.

00:31:40.000 Anyway, I get them interchange all the time.

00:31:43.000 They were really good friends.

00:31:44.000 And they were kind of the original individual thinkers in the mid-1800s of this idea of kind of individual Emerson wrote Walden.

00:31:55.000 Got it.

00:31:55.000 Okay, I was right.

00:31:56.000 Thank you, Connor.

00:31:58.000 So Ralph, no, Henry David Thoreau famously wrote his doctrine on civil disobedience when he refused to pay taxes to the federal government.

00:32:09.000 And it failed miserably.

00:32:11.000 He went to jail.

00:32:12.000 However, here's what civil disobedience, and we're going to see a lot more of this.

00:32:15.000 I want to be very clear.

00:32:17.000 I will support thoughtful acts of civil disobedience.

00:32:22.000 It's what makes this country a beautiful country.

00:32:24.000 I will not support acts of civil discord or of harming other people.

00:32:30.000 Okay, so here are the three kind of, and this is an original list from me, but it's really not original.

00:32:36.000 What do I mean by that?

00:32:37.000 Meaning that if you just read all the literature, you'll come away with these takeaways, but the list itself, I think, helps.

00:32:43.000 Here are the three attributes of civil disobedience.

00:32:45.000 I want you to ask yourselves the question of whether or not the people on Wednesday did this.

00:32:50.000 Number one, you must have a clear goal in mind.

00:32:56.000 What the heck was the clear goal in mind on Wednesday?

00:32:59.000 What was the goal?

00:33:00.000 Bloodshed? 1.00

00:33:01.000 Stupid. 1.00

00:33:03.000 Number two, you must be willing to accept the punishment. 1.00

00:33:09.000 The fact that a lot of these people are still MIA and running around goes to show that they are going against the doctrine of effective civil disobedience.

00:33:22.000 Number three, exhausted all other options.

00:33:30.000 Meaning you have exhausted all other options.

00:33:33.000 Some people say we did exhaust all our options.

00:33:34.000 That's why we were there.

00:33:36.000 Oh, wait, no.

00:33:37.000 So Henry David Thoreau did write Walden.

00:33:40.000 Okay, I'm getting all sorts of different types of feedback.

00:33:43.000 I told you, I get them confused all the time.

00:33:46.000 It's all right.

00:33:46.000 We got our wires crossed.

00:33:47.000 Thank you, Connor.

00:33:48.000 I want you to imagine something as we wrap up this hour, and we're going to carry this into the next hour as well.

00:33:54.000 I want you to imagine that this beautiful rally happens with the president.

00:33:58.000 And instead of any of these instigators and agitators doing that, all the Trump supporters instead went to Pennsylvania Avenue and sat down and started singing patriotic songs, America the Beautiful, the national anthem.

00:34:12.000 And they said, we are going to sit here peacefully.

00:34:15.000 You're going to have to arrest us until we get a certification of the 2020 election.

00:34:22.000 I would have been in support of that.

00:34:24.000 Why?

00:34:25.000 Clear goal in mind.

00:34:26.000 We want an audit of the election or to go to the state legislature.

00:34:30.000 Willing to accept the punishment and exhausted all other options.

00:34:34.000 Do you see how things would have been different?

00:34:36.000 See, that would not have been doing nothing.

00:34:39.000 That actually would have taken more courage and more clarity than bashing in windows.

00:34:46.000 And it would have actually helped achieve your goal.

00:34:48.000 I want you to imagine if 300,000, half a million people would have sat down in Pennsylvania Avenue singing America the Beautiful.

00:34:56.000 Could they have arrested all half a million people?

00:34:58.000 Of course not.

00:34:59.000 And that would have won public opinion over.

00:35:02.000 Okay, so I want to add, oh, there's a lot of things I want to get into.

00:35:07.000 You guys can email us in real-time, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:35:11.000 Someone just said, what is the story out of Italy?

00:35:13.000 Thankfully, I've already covered that.

00:35:14.000 So you guys can go back in the live stream and do that.

00:35:17.000 Thank you for asking.

00:35:18.000 I want to say here, there was one really, really good email.

00:35:22.000 I can't find it.

00:35:23.000 Someone was just complimenting the idea around civil disobedience.

00:35:26.000 So, Isabel, you had some thoughts on this, right?

00:35:28.000 And then I want to kind of get more into a history of civil disobedience and what that exactly means.

00:35:33.000 Because the answer is not to do nothing.

00:35:35.000 I'm not saying that every person that was there in Washington, D.C. shouldn't have been there.

00:35:35.000 Right.

00:35:41.000 I'm not saying that there couldn't have been something bold and courageous that was done.

00:35:47.000 But smashing windows isn't that.

00:35:48.000 Well, I think our track history with Turning Point USA and just as individuals too is always to take a stand for what you believe in and to do something when you see injustice, when you're experiencing injustice.

00:35:58.000 And we talked a lot the other day on our live stream about how people do feel disenfranchised.

00:36:02.000 They don't feel heard.

00:36:04.000 They feel shut down by their government.

00:36:05.000 And of course you should do something about that.

00:36:07.000 But there's a very clear line between civil disobedience and civil discord.

00:36:11.000 And I know we're going to be jumping into that here in a moment.

00:36:14.000 And that doesn't necessarily mean following the letter of the law because civil disobedience has always involved a level of lawlessness, but that doesn't have to go into violence.

00:36:23.000 Yes.

00:36:24.000 I can't really begin to tell you how many posts I've seen in the last 24 hours listing the names of people who broke the law in the name of true justice throughout history because the law isn't always on the side of justice.

00:36:34.000 And that's important to remember.

00:36:36.000 We've seen some of the most inspiring people throughout history break the law to further the cause of justice.

00:36:40.000 So that's not necessarily a bad thing.

00:36:43.000 That being said, breaking the law and destruction of property and violence are two very different things.

00:36:48.000 So, right.

00:36:49.000 It depends what law you're breaking.

00:36:51.000 So the three characteristics of civil disobedience, which is you must be willing to accept the punishment.

00:36:58.000 You don't wear masks.

00:36:59.000 You don't do what BLM and Antifa did or what some of the people that might have been Antifa or leftist agitators did.

00:37:04.000 Right.

00:37:05.000 Where you smash all these windows and run away.

00:37:09.000 Instead, you must be willing to accept the punishment.

00:37:12.000 Number two, the true doctrine of civil disobedience, peaceful demonstration.

00:37:16.000 You don't hurt other people and you don't take their stuff.

00:37:20.000 It's a pretty simple rule.

00:37:21.000 Very simple.

00:37:21.000 Yeah.

00:37:22.000 You don't hurt other people and you don't take their stuff.

00:37:24.000 Now, this is nuanced.

00:37:25.000 You can inconvenience people.

00:37:26.000 The most famous types of civil disobedience would be sitting in the street, right?

00:37:33.000 Or, you know, something like that.

00:37:34.000 Rosa Parks for refusing to give it away.

00:37:36.000 Yeah, and we're going to get to that.

00:37:37.000 And that one wasn't as much of an inconvenience.

00:37:39.000 It was against the law because it was an unjust law.

00:37:42.000 And then the other thing is you must have a clear goal in mind.

00:37:45.000 What are you trying to achieve?

00:37:46.000 I'm angry.

00:37:47.000 We got that.

00:37:47.000 Oh, okay.

00:37:48.000 I'm angry too.

00:37:49.000 I dedicated my life to getting this president re-elected.

00:37:49.000 Okay.

00:37:53.000 Lots of anger around here.

00:37:54.000 Okay.

00:37:55.000 So what do you do about it?

00:37:56.000 What's your goal?

00:37:57.000 The goal was let's try to get the state legislatures involved, audit the elections, all these sorts of things.

00:38:01.000 Okay.

00:38:01.000 So we're willing to take the punishment.

00:38:03.000 All half a million of us are willing to go to jail.

00:38:05.000 Okay.

00:38:06.000 We're not going to hurt other people and take their stuff, right?

00:38:09.000 That's like two good things.

00:38:10.000 We're not going to hurt people.

00:38:10.000 We're not going to smash windows.

00:38:12.000 We have a clear goal in mind.

00:38:14.000 We've exhausted all their options.

00:38:16.000 And then you have hundreds of thousands of people that, and I made this recommendation as the other hour was kind of ending very quickly, is what if this would have happened?

00:38:26.000 What if hundreds of thousands of people on Wednesday would have went to Pennsylvania Avenue in a beautiful patriotic display and sat down in Pennsylvania Avenue and just sang America the Beautiful and God Bless America and wonderful patriotic songs.

00:38:41.000 Now that would have checked all those boxes, right?

00:38:44.000 Right.

00:38:44.000 And it would have left a legacy.

00:38:45.000 And I think that's important too.

00:38:46.000 People want this to be in the history books.

00:38:48.000 And I think, unfortunately, now Wednesday is going to be in the history books for a lot of wrong reasons.

00:38:52.000 And then who would have been the martyrs in that situation?

00:38:56.000 Who would have been in just taught, like who would have been the ones, the people getting arrested for singing patriotic songs for demanding a clear, clear, fair election?

00:39:04.000 You know, while they're singing, they're getting arrested.

00:39:06.000 They would have been willing to accept the punishment.

00:39:08.000 Is why what Henry David Thoreau wrote about here?

00:39:11.000 He said, if you're not willing to accept the punishment, your protest is not a protest.

00:39:18.000 You're not going to win over public opinion.

00:39:19.000 Do you think that public opinion was won over on Wednesday?

00:39:22.000 Absolutely.

00:39:22.000 And some people say public opinion means nothing.

00:39:24.000 It means a lot.

00:39:24.000 You're wrong.

00:39:25.000 Yeah, it does.

00:39:26.000 You want to actually effectuate mass social change, then you need to be able to do that.

00:39:30.000 So you kind of look at some examples of this.

00:39:33.000 Obviously, Rosa Parks is a great example, right?

00:39:35.000 Now, the Baxter Anne, Rosa Parks, which is really interesting, is that she was a member of the NAACP before the NAACP became super political as it is now.

00:39:45.000 But as a member of the NAACP, she knew that busing was becoming a focus of the local NAACP.

00:39:52.000 And so she kind of was leading.

00:39:54.000 She was a leader on that.

00:39:55.000 She said, I'm not going to sit in the back of the bus.

00:39:58.000 Everyone knows kind of how that unfolded.

00:40:00.000 But she went to jail.

00:40:01.000 She didn't resist violently.

00:40:03.000 She didn't do that.

00:40:04.000 Now, this is kind of where some people in the movie that you have a Malcolm X interpretation and Martin Luther King interpretation of this.

00:40:11.000 And generally, Martin Luther King was a proponent of peaceful demonstration.

00:40:17.000 With that being said, where there's history of Martin Luther King that's not always told, he did say positive things about mobs at times too, of which I do not share.

00:40:26.000 Probably the best example, though, that is used is Gandhi's salt march, right?

00:40:32.000 Where there was my details are hard to recollect.

00:40:36.000 There was a salt tax, I think, being put on by Britain, and 60,000, he would go from city to city kind of protesting it.

00:40:41.000 And at this 60,000 people went to jail, but they actually ended up getting what they wanted through peaceful demonstration.

00:40:49.000 There's many other examples of this, but in the era we live in, in social media and mass media, I think it's easier to win over public opinion and easier to lose public opinion if you mishandle these situations.

00:40:59.000 100%.

00:41:00.000 And so I just want to make sure everyone understands my position, where some people say that none of those people should have been there.

00:41:06.000 There's no election to protest.

00:41:08.000 Like, how are we actually protesting it?

00:41:10.000 And so here's, you know, if it looks like absent a God-sized miracle, Biden's going to become president.

00:41:16.000 And there's going to be a lot of unconstitutional, unjust laws that are going to come through.

00:41:22.000 And so let's give an example that all of a sudden Joe Biden signs in an assault weapons ban.

00:41:27.000 What's the proper way to protest that?

00:41:29.000 Well, you have to be willing to accept the punishment, not hurt other people and not take their stuff.

00:41:34.000 Have a clear goal in mind.

00:41:35.000 You got to satisfy those requirements, right?

00:41:37.000 So the, and you have to exhaust all their options.

00:41:40.000 Did you fight in the courts?

00:41:41.000 Did you try to take over state legislatures?

00:41:43.000 Did you try, you know, did you use all the different maybe sanctuary city provisions that have now been put in before all of a sudden people start shooting and go to violence, right?

00:41:51.000 And that's what I kind of want to just build out because we got a lot of questions here.

00:41:55.000 They said, Charlie, the founding fathers shot and asked questions later.

00:41:59.000 No, that is not the story of the American founding.

00:42:02.000 There was a decade of peaceful pushing back against the crown, of negotiation, of deliberation.

00:42:12.000 The Declaration of Independence was not a declaration of war.

00:42:16.000 The founding fathers wanted to seek peaceful means of the formation of the new country.

00:42:21.000 It wasn't until the Boston Massacre and until Lexington Concord came before the Declaration, actually.

00:42:27.000 And it wasn't until things really started to bubble up, till things get to that moment.

00:42:31.000 The Founding Fathers did not relish conflict, though.

00:42:33.000 They didn't want it.

00:42:35.000 They didn't actually, they weren't the ones that were like, we must go to war now.

00:42:38.000 They knew what was going to happen after the Declaration.

00:42:40.000 But there were some people that signed it that were hopeful that Britain, because of how war-wary they were, and because of a rising French power that was being led by Napoleon wasn't totally in power yet, but a rising French power that they wouldn't want the fight, they were wrong.

00:42:55.000 But if you read in the Declaration, it says, when in the course of human events, it becomes necessary to dissolve ties.

00:43:01.000 This was a, hey, can we dissolve peacefully?

00:43:03.000 The answer was no.

00:43:05.000 But this idea that all of a sudden the founding fathers didn't document thoughtfully specifically of exactly what they wanted to do and try to come to that kind of peaceful conclusion.

00:43:14.000 And they just started storming British troops.

00:43:16.000 And that's not correct at all.

00:43:18.000 And so I just want to make sure that we add the proper interpretation of American history here for some people that are all of a sudden like doing this massive call to arms.

00:43:27.000 And even since then, if you look at domestic changes in our laws, If you look at American history, the most effective way to do it is through the doctrine of Henry David Thoreau's civil disobedience.

00:43:40.000 And that's something that I think we must re-educate ourselves on, especially as we get into the looming tyranny we all know is coming.

00:43:48.000 We are going through a couple different things.

00:43:51.000 I think this is really important.

00:43:52.000 And we're getting a lot of, actually really thoughtful questions.

00:43:55.000 And I know there's a lot of anger out there.

00:43:57.000 And anger is fine.

00:43:59.000 I'm angry too.

00:43:59.000 Trust me.

00:44:00.000 And so is Isabel.

00:44:02.000 Of what's happened in our country and also about how this entire thing was administered.

00:44:06.000 And what we were doing in the previous segment is just painting a picture of how things could have been different on Wednesday.

00:44:12.000 Still could have been bold, still could have been dramatic and courageous, where that huge march could have happened and went to Pennsylvania Avenue, sat down, sang patriotic songs for 12 hours.

00:44:21.000 Imagine if they were there for two days, hundreds of thousands of people.

00:44:25.000 Food would have been provided to them.

00:44:27.000 And all of a sudden, Congress would have heard hundreds of thousands of people through the halls of Congress singing America the Beautiful, trying to say, please clarify the election, all peaceful.

00:44:37.000 There wouldn't have been enough cops in D.C., Virginia, or Delaware to arrest them all.

00:44:42.000 The media would say, arrest all these terrible people.

00:44:44.000 And the argument would be, wait a second, Washington, D.C.'s locked down anyway.

00:44:48.000 Why do they need to leave Pennsylvania Avenue?

00:44:50.000 And these hundreds of thousands of people would have drawn peacefully a massive amount of, it would have moved the dial.

00:44:57.000 And all of a sudden, we would have supported it.

00:44:59.000 And anyone that would have been arrested there, it would have been looked like that was the act of tyranny going towards them.

00:45:05.000 And every single goal that we might have wanted to see accomplished could have been accomplished when in reality the exact opposite happened.

00:45:12.000 And so the question is, why did this happen?

00:45:15.000 Why did it happen the way it did?

00:45:16.000 Well, they were agitators and they were really high emotions.

00:45:19.000 And also, quite honestly, in our conservative movement, we have not done a good enough job of educating all of you on what is civil disobedience, how does it work, and what exactly are we doing here?

00:45:31.000 Because all this anger needs to manifest itself, hopefully, into something constructive.

00:45:35.000 We talked about in civil disobedience.

00:45:37.000 You must be willing to accept the punishment, have a clear goal in mind, exhaust all other options, and also, quite honestly, be able to win over public opinion in more ways than one.

00:45:49.000 A lot of people have been asking us, well, Charlie, didn't the American founders, didn't they immediately go to violence?

00:45:58.000 And Isabel, if you look back in history, that's not exactly the case.

00:46:01.000 It's absolutely not the case.

00:46:02.000 The reality is the people who are responsible for creating the United States of America broke with human nature.

00:46:08.000 They didn't resort to violence after literally decades of frustration.

00:46:12.000 They formed a Congress.

00:46:13.000 They organized.

00:46:14.000 They boycotted.

00:46:15.000 They didn't pay their taxes.

00:46:16.000 They burned stamps, all of which led up to a revolution.

00:46:20.000 But even then, as we just mentioned in our last segment, the Declaration of Independence was not a declaration of war.

00:46:25.000 It was asking for a peaceful dissolution of the United States from the British Empire.

00:46:30.000 So they truly did exhaust every other option over a span of literally decades before an actual armed revolution took place.

00:46:39.000 And the Declaration of Independence was trying to be a peaceful seeking of remedying differences.

00:46:47.000 And also the other important point here is that the Founding Fathers did not have national elections to be able to elect a leader.

00:46:55.000 Now, the counter argument that you probably are saying, well, Charlie, we didn't have an election here, and that's why all this anger kind of pent up.

00:47:02.000 I think that's a pretty good.

00:47:03.000 I think that's a pretty fair point.

00:47:05.000 However, we did have an election in most states.

00:47:09.000 And in the next segment, I want to build this out, which is this question of: should I ever vote again?

00:47:14.000 Should I ever participate in this?

00:47:16.000 I'm going to completely and totally check out. 0.53

00:47:19.000 I think that's a pretty silly argument for a variety of different reasons.

00:47:23.000 But also, I'm going to prove it to you. 0.55

00:47:24.000 I'm going to prove it to you in kind of how we have responded to things and how we have handled things.

00:47:29.000 And so, as we kind of come up on the looming Biden presidency, I think that there's going to be a lot of opportunity to learn from this because there will be a tremendous amount of liberties and freedoms taken from us.

00:47:41.000 And there already have been.

00:47:43.000 The question is: how are we going to handle it?

00:47:45.000 Are we going to handle it like some of the maybe Antifa insurrectionist far-right white nationalist people did on Wednesday?

00:47:55.000 Or are we going to take a step back and say, I'm going to not take people's stuff and not hurt them.

00:48:01.000 I've exhausted all other options.

00:48:03.000 I have a clear goal in mind and I'm willing to accept the punishment.

00:48:06.000 All of a sudden, you'll win over public opinion when that happens.

00:48:09.000 You'll win over other people's sympathies when that occurs.

00:48:14.000 And that really does matter when you're trying to effectuate social change.

00:48:17.000 Now, if your goal is just to watch the world burn, then go do what you did on Wednesday.

00:48:21.000 If all you want is people to fight each other and for blood to spill, that is not an argument that is rooted in the Western tradition.

00:48:28.000 Remember, it takes talent, skill, thought, and quite honestly, a higher level of consideration to build.

00:48:38.000 It takes no such consideration to tear down.

00:48:42.000 ISIS can tear stuff down.

00:48:44.000 That's what they do all day long.

00:48:46.000 All they do is destroy.

00:48:47.000 They've never built anything.

00:48:49.000 But to build something new, it takes patience.

00:48:53.000 It takes deliberation.

00:48:54.000 It takes focus.

00:48:56.000 It takes perseverance.

00:48:58.000 And that's what the West is all about.

00:48:59.000 The West is about building something new, not just tearing down the same piece of land and conquering it in some sort of medieval feudal theocracy.

00:49:08.000 That's not who we are.

00:49:09.000 And that's not who we should be.

00:49:11.000 Instead, we should always be asking ourselves, how can I build new?

00:49:17.000 And that's who we are.

00:49:18.000 We're loading up some very interesting video around the Capitol Hill chaos that ensued a couple of days ago.

00:49:25.000 But I want to address this question of people that say, I'm never going to vote again.

00:49:30.000 I'm never going to vote again.

00:49:31.000 I don't trust any of our elections. 0.97

00:49:33.000 Well, that's a really dumb thing to say.

00:49:35.000 Because let's go this piece by piece and bit by bit. 0.78

00:49:39.000 Do you believe Trump won the state of Florida?

00:49:41.000 Yes or no?

00:49:43.000 If yes, then you do trust some elections then.

00:49:46.000 Do you believe that Young Kim won her congressional race in Orange County, California?

00:49:53.000 Yes.

00:49:54.000 So maybe there was fraud and there was nonsense, all of that, but enough people voted to get Congresswoman Young Kim to unseat Gil Cisneros.

00:50:05.000 Do you believe that Mike Garcia won in California?

00:50:08.000 Because he did.

00:50:09.000 The point is this: there are certain states that have practices that are unconstitutional that absolutely need to get addressed.

00:50:17.000 But there are states that are actually doing their elections correctly.

00:50:20.000 Let me read you the election results from the state of Florida.

00:50:25.000 Last time, President Donald Trump won Florida by 110,000 votes.

00:50:29.000 This time, he won the state of Florida with 5.68 million votes.

00:50:35.000 Joe Biden got 5.2 million votes, winning by nearly 4.400,000 votes.

00:50:44.000 And so if you think and you trust the elections in Florida, take a step back and say, why?

00:50:49.000 Well, it's because of leadership.

00:50:51.000 And it's also because of public pressure.

00:50:54.000 It's because I'm a citizen in the state of Florida.

00:50:57.000 The Florida Republican Party and the Florida legislature got heavily involved in getting secure elections, kicking dominion out of their state, doing these sort of things.

00:51:07.000 Signature verification.

00:51:08.000 The point is this, is that we do have certain states where elections are done fairly and transparently with massive amounts of population.

00:51:16.000 So if you trust the elections in Florida and if you trust the elections in Ohio, then that means there is some pathway forward that somewhere in this country, you can then get to a point of transparency and trust.

00:51:30.000 But a question a lot of people have is, well, how do I trust my elections again in Georgia, in Arizona?

00:51:35.000 Great question.

00:51:37.000 Brian Kemp and the governor's race in Arizona are both up in 2022.

00:51:43.000 Demand in the primary and daily, through your activism and through everything you're doing, that you want very specific changes done.

00:51:51.000 All you want to say is this.

00:51:53.000 I want the Florida system of voting in Georgia and Arizona.

00:51:59.000 That's it.

00:52:00.000 I want the Florida system of voting nationwide.

00:52:03.000 For some of you that are skeptical and you'll say, that'll never happen.

00:52:07.000 Dismiss all that cynicism and entertain a little bit of hope.

00:52:11.000 In 2018, when Ron DeSantis ran for the governor's race, it was a mess.

00:52:17.000 Brenda Snipes and Broward County took days to report results.

00:52:21.000 There were ballots being driven in from everywhere.

00:52:23.000 Ron DeSantis narrowly won that race, and the moment he took office, he changed the elections.

00:52:28.000 Things can move to be better.

00:52:30.000 This is one thing that I hope to instill a little optimism and confidence in you.

00:52:34.000 I think far too often we have this belief that things are just always getting worse forever.

00:52:39.000 No, Florida is a test case of how things were awful and they're actually pretty awesome now.

00:52:44.000 That Florida schools are open, that Florida businesses are open, that in Florida they have the strictest signature verification of the country and Florida is the third most populous state in the country, third or fourth most populous state in the country.

00:52:57.000 Why?

00:52:58.000 People demanded it.

00:52:59.000 Citizens rose up and we had leadership.

00:53:03.000 Totally agree that we got some problems.

00:53:05.000 We got some problems in two states in particular that need to be fixed immediately.

00:53:09.000 And both of those states have Republican legislatures, state and Senate, state House and Senate, and a state governor.

00:53:16.000 Georgia and Arizona.

00:53:17.000 Unacceptable.

00:53:18.000 It has to be fixed now.

00:53:21.000 Also, we look at Wisconsin and Michigan, Republican state legislatures.

00:53:28.000 Florida was a mess, and it became fixed.

00:53:33.000 So if you all of a sudden say, I trust none of my elections, none of them are happening.

00:53:39.000 You're wrong.

00:53:41.000 You self-contradict yourself.

00:53:42.000 You either believe that Elvira Salazar won in downtown Miami, Florida in a heavily Democrat district, or you don't.

00:53:52.000 I want to add, I have a question here that I want to ask that I want to show some.

00:53:57.000 I want to show a clip here.

00:54:00.000 It's very interesting.

00:54:01.000 There were definitely people that broke through window and glass, that people that were fighting with police.

00:54:08.000 At the same time, though, it looks like new video has popped up that shows that the Capitol Hill police let these people through.

00:54:17.000 How did that happen?

00:54:18.000 And why did that happen?

00:54:19.000 Now, we have muted this video because we are streaming live on radio stations across the country and there's a lot of swear words and we're not allowed to air those.

00:54:29.000 So for those of you on the live stream, you're about to watch a video with no audio.

00:54:34.000 In fact, can you keep my mic hot so I can narrate over that?

00:54:37.000 So before I play this tape though, this is a tape showing, and I've not seen this tape until this morning.

00:54:43.000 They just open up the doors and they allow everyone to come in.

00:54:47.000 This is not an act of terrorism, just letting people through a door.

00:54:51.000 Now, Isabel, you've spent a lot of time in DC.

00:54:54.000 Anyone's allowed to go into Capitol Hill usually, typically, right?

00:54:57.000 You can show up.

00:54:58.000 This is true.

00:54:59.000 You're just allowed to go through.

00:55:00.000 You have to go through a security thing usually, right?

00:55:03.000 And on occasion, you do have to get a special pass to observe in the gallery for the House and the Senate.

00:55:07.000 But it's not very difficult to get one of those.

00:55:09.000 You visit your representative or your senator and just ask.

00:55:12.000 Right.

00:55:12.000 And so I want to be very clear.

00:55:15.000 There's other videos that show that there were instigators that were burning and fighting cops.

00:55:21.000 This video right here adds a little nuance, though, that some people were just allowed to walk in as if they were invited.

00:55:30.000 Play tape, and I'm going to narrate over it.

00:55:33.000 So as you have here, a group of people that look to be March participants, and the doors are just kind of let open.

00:55:40.000 Who they were let open by and for what reason, we don't know.

00:55:45.000 And it looks, I don't know who these people are or what they are doing, but this does not look anything to be violent in my estimation.

00:55:53.000 For those of you on radio, you can go to the Charlie Kirk YouTube.

00:55:56.000 The police just seem to kind of be standing there.

00:55:58.000 They just look, that's them.

00:55:59.000 They just kind of let them go by.

00:56:01.000 This doesn't look like there's burning or anything like that happening.

00:56:07.000 They're just kind of walking up the stairs and kind of just going through.

00:56:12.000 So while there is footage, it's just they're walking in a single file line.

00:56:16.000 This doesn't look like storming the Capitol, right?

00:56:18.000 This doesn't look as if there's anything overly violent.

00:56:21.000 Now, it looks like a journalist.

00:56:24.000 I wonder if he'll get charged on federal terrorism charges.

00:56:27.000 Here's the Capitol Hill Rotunda.

00:56:29.000 They just kind of walked in, and I think that's the end of that video, right?

00:56:33.000 So there are other videos that show that people were breaking glass and trying to get in and all of that.

00:56:38.000 But that right there just kind of goes to show that the police were just kind of like walk through.

00:56:43.000 Now, it could be that the police were given a stand down order by whom, we don't know.

00:56:49.000 Or it could be that the police made the decision like, hey, I don't want anyone to die right now.

00:56:55.000 I'm just going to kind of make the easy decision to let them through.

00:56:59.000 And I don't want the conflict or the controversy.

00:57:02.000 Now, whether that was the right decision or not, you can kind of sympathize with it.

00:57:06.000 But if you play that video back one more time, let's play that video again, Connor.

00:57:10.000 It's pretty powerful here.

00:57:12.000 Let's play this again.

00:57:13.000 I just want to be very clear.

00:57:15.000 We never saw this type of footage on cable news.

00:57:18.000 I have not seen this on CNN, and I have not seen this in other places where the people are just kind of just walking through.

00:57:24.000 Now, before anyone gets, I just want to make sure we're honest, this is not all the footage of what happened, okay?

00:57:29.000 There were people that were assaulting police officers.

00:57:32.000 There were people that were instigating, but this just looks to be kind of a single file line.

00:57:37.000 They're the police officers right there that are just kind of like, yeah, come on through.

00:57:40.000 I'm not going to fight you.

00:57:42.000 And so it just seems as if they were just kind of allowed.

00:57:46.000 What's your thoughts on this, Isabel?

00:57:48.000 Charlie, you used a few words a second ago that I don't want us to forget, and that is we don't know.

00:57:53.000 I've got a lot of heat in the last few days, especially from people who disagree with me in the political realm saying that, how can I possibly say we don't know?

00:58:01.000 We know exactly what's going on.

00:58:03.000 There's so much violence going on.

00:58:04.000 Yeah, I don't know.

00:58:05.000 That's not what we're seeing right in front of our eyes.

00:58:07.000 I don't think we'll know the whole story of what happened on Wednesday for quite some time.

00:58:11.000 And you certainly won't hear about it on the mainstream media.

00:58:13.000 But it's okay to pause and say we don't have all of the facts.

00:58:17.000 We're going to reserve judgment on things until we do have all of the facts.

00:58:20.000 And don't fall into this trick narrative that you have to automatically make an assumption and a judgment and a statement.

00:58:26.000 And what we do know is that some people, and we don't know who these people are, though, were smashing windows and assaulting cops.

00:58:33.000 But that just looks just kind of like a single file line of people that were walking into the Capitol.

00:58:37.000 That's what it appears to be to me as well.

00:58:39.000 So that doesn't look like anything over the top.

00:58:39.000 Yeah.

00:58:42.000 Again, we're just talking about a singular, a singular, you know.

00:58:48.000 Instance.

00:58:48.000 Yeah.

00:58:49.000 One video that we're seeing right now.

00:58:50.000 And we've been very clear talking about the violence as well in the last few days, that that's never okay.

00:58:55.000 It's not anything we condone or celebrate or even remotely associate with.

00:59:00.000 So, you know, that video is very different from the footage that we just showed you.

00:59:03.000 But we encourage you guys to always go and try to find all of the facts of any situation possible.

00:59:09.000 Email us your questions, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:59:12.000 I want to take some of the questions here.

00:59:16.000 Let's get right here to Vice President Pence is at the White House right now, according to Seth Abramson from the NBC News.

00:59:25.000 I guess it's breaking if you think that Mike Pence is in Guantanamo and Obey.

00:59:28.000 Besides that, I'm not exactly sure.

00:59:32.000 Okay, let's get to this question here.

00:59:34.000 I'm a 35-year-old conservative mom of two young girls from Houston, Texas, who never really cared greatly about politics until the past year.

00:59:34.000 Hi, Charlie.

00:59:40.000 I had a friend turn on me.

00:59:41.000 Oh, turn me on.

00:59:42.000 Turn me onto your podcast.

00:59:42.000 Okay.

00:59:44.000 And boy, you were a bright spot in 2020.

00:59:47.000 Thank you for rising up, opening my eyes, and teaching our youth and creating a much-needed movement for this country.

00:59:47.000 Thank you.

00:59:53.000 God bless you and all this.

00:59:54.000 Not really a question, but thank you for the positive reinforcement.

00:59:58.000 We appreciate that.

01:00:01.000 So here's a good question here, which is a woman was killed in the Capitol building.

01:00:06.000 People broke in, damaging federal property.

01:00:09.000 So why wasn't this a crime scene sealed off?

01:00:11.000 That's a very good question.

01:00:15.000 That seems as if just kind of allowing that to go back to normal business is kind of strange.

01:00:19.000 Especially considered someone was shot by a police officer.

01:00:22.000 There was a death that occurred as a result of that shooting.

01:00:25.000 There's a lot of unanswered questions here.

01:00:28.000 And, you know, I think it's worth pursuing and investigating some of that information.

01:00:32.000 There's some breaking news.

01:00:33.000 Would you like to share this with us, Isabel?

01:00:35.000 We are just now hearing from our team that United States House Democrats are planning to introduce new articles of impeachment against President Donald Trump on Monday.

01:00:43.000 So I think we're going to be hearing a lot of people who are going to be able to do that.

01:00:45.000 What the greatest injustice of all this is?

01:00:47.000 That's the night of the national championship.

01:00:49.000 So I'm going to have to be here.

01:00:50.000 That's a problem.

01:00:51.000 I'm going to have to be here doing roll call votes of what Republicans are deciding to Soviet-style impeach our president.

01:00:57.000 But I think if we have the rights to do it, if we can get it on some sort of public access television, we will stream the national championship on here alongside the impeachment.

01:01:07.000 Is that legal, Connor?

01:01:08.000 Are we allowed to do that?

01:01:09.000 Why not?

01:01:10.000 Okay.

01:01:11.000 If I can get some sort of legal feed to Alabama versus Ohio State, and I think I'm going to lose a lot of listeners in Huntsville, but I do want to see the Ohio State Buckeys win on Monday.

01:01:23.000 And by the way, this impeachment is completely and totally pointless.

01:01:26.000 It's baseless, and it invalidates exactly what impeachment actually is.

01:01:32.000 And then it will go to the Senate.

01:01:33.000 So we are going to be monitoring this in real time.

01:01:37.000 And Ben Sasse from Nebraska has said he's open to it amongst other Republicans, which is not exactly surprising.

01:01:46.000 Senator Ben Sasse says that he might be signaling for impeachment.

01:01:51.000 Let's play tape of that.

01:01:53.000 An insurrectionist mob came and marched on that Capitol after a rally with the president of the United States where he told them to come to the Capitol and to go wild.

01:02:01.000 He was flagrantly disregarding his oath of office.

01:02:05.000 So that's not in debate.

01:02:07.000 Donald Trump has acted shamefully.

01:02:09.000 He has been in flagrant dereliction of his duty.

01:02:13.000 And he will be remembered for having incited this and for having drawn more division into an already divided people.

01:02:20.000 So that's Senator Ben Sasse from Nebraska, who calls himself a Republican, who will looks like he'll be supporting impeachments of the president of the United States if it goes there.

01:02:33.000 So they're also, we're getting a clip here of the president telling rallygoers to be peaceful.

01:02:40.000 So we are getting that one right there.

01:02:44.000 It's hard to find, obviously, because it's kind of buried in there.

01:02:48.000 And so, of course, by big tech.

01:02:51.000 So, Isabel, does the president have an Instagram account right now?

01:02:54.000 Nope.

01:02:55.000 Or Facebook account or Twitter account.

01:02:57.000 I think he has Twitter back.

01:02:58.000 Oh, it has come back.

01:02:59.000 That one was only a 12-hour ban, not an indefinite ban, but it's going to be unlikely we'll be hearing directly from him on Facebook or Instagram for a long time.

01:02:59.000 Yes.

01:03:07.000 Yeah, totally.

01:03:08.000 Well, that is kind of a byproduct of big tech.

01:03:13.000 The fact that big tech can cancel. the account of the president of the United States and we're not hearing more concern from people is wildly alarming to me in 2021.

01:03:24.000 Regardless of who the president is, that is a massive power grab.

01:03:28.000 Well, and the head of Iran, the Supreme Leader Khomeini, still allowed to have a Twitter account.

01:03:35.000 Yeah.

01:03:36.000 But then they deactivate the President of the United States from having kind of social media access.

01:03:41.000 Go figure that one out.

01:03:42.000 Crazy.

01:03:43.000 We're going to take some of your questions here.

01:03:44.000 Freedom at CharlieKirk.com, freedom at charliekirk.com.

01:03:47.000 Isabel, there's a question here I wanted you to answer that I think could be.

01:03:51.000 Yeah, I think a lot of us are feeling this way.

01:03:53.000 So this question is from Sarah from Indiana.

01:03:55.000 It says, Charlie, what is next?

01:03:57.000 I'm a 16-year-old girl from Indiana, and I'm so concerned for the future and how I will one day be able to raise my kids.

01:04:04.000 What is the country going to be like?

01:04:05.000 Will there be secessions?

01:04:07.000 I will trust God fully, but I'm very concerned, and I'm so dang mad over impeachment.

01:04:11.000 It's just selfishless now.

01:04:13.000 I've had enough.

01:04:14.000 Sarah, we've all had enough.

01:04:16.000 We all feel like that.

01:04:17.000 I'm sorry that things feel so out of control and confusing and just this very, very tangled mess of information right now in 2021.

01:04:27.000 I think Gen Z people particularly feel this way in America.

01:04:31.000 We have been raised in a string of crises from 9-11 when we were very, very, very young children to school shootings when we were growing up, then the COVID-19 pandemic, then everything we saw this week.

01:04:42.000 And I want you to know there's power in being involved in the process.

01:04:45.000 I think when you start to get involved, when you use your voice in your community, when you actually use your hands to do something in this movement, you just feel so much more empowered with the direction of this country, knowing that you are helping to influence what that looks like.

01:04:59.000 I felt confused and overwhelmed before I got involved with Turning Point USA.

01:05:03.000 I got involved and I was a college student and my life has looked nothing like it did since then.

01:05:07.000 What did it look like before, Isabel?

01:05:09.000 I was actually pre-med in college.

01:05:10.000 I wanted to be a doctor.

01:05:12.000 I really had no interest in politics as a career other than a personal hobby.

01:05:16.000 Obviously, my life has taken a very different direction since then, but I have so much fallen in love with being involved in the process, with showing up to knock doors and make phone calls and sit here on live streams and tell you guys what's going on.

01:05:28.000 And most importantly, just inspire other people to get more knowledgeable and get involved in the process too.

01:05:32.000 So I would highly encourage you to do that.

01:05:34.000 It's super easy to get involved with Turning Point USA.

01:05:37.000 We can help you with that process as well.

01:05:39.000 TPUSA.com slash get involved.

01:05:43.000 There's a lot of misinformation happening right now in our country.

01:05:47.000 And the greatest thing you could do when you're angry or you're upset or you're high with emotion is to get back to the anchor of reason.

01:05:56.000 Renee Descartes famously said, I think, therefore I am.

01:06:01.000 And so when you stop thinking, you're no longer, quite honestly, existing.

01:06:05.000 And if things sound really good, almost too good to be true in the news cycle, then challenge your premise, as Rene Descartes would say.

01:06:13.000 Challenge the given in geometric terms and go back to a place where you then can find comfort and direction and focus in the news you're processing and then chart your course correctly.

01:06:27.000 And I truly believe that our best days are ahead of us.

01:06:29.000 I really do believe that.

01:06:30.000 And I believe that despite all the nonsense that has happened this week, there's still some tremendous victories that we can continue to celebrate.

01:06:38.000 Okay, let's play this tape here of what it looks to be some people being let in.

01:06:42.000 Let's do it with no sound and then just keep my mic active so I can narrate.

01:06:45.000 Is that okay?

01:06:46.000 Good.

01:06:47.000 Play tape, please.

01:06:47.000 Thank you.

01:06:49.000 So it looks as if that's to be a singular police officer who is trying to tell people to stop.

01:06:57.000 And they're having some sort of a shouting match, doesn't look to be respectful.

01:07:04.000 And he's telling them to come back.

01:07:06.000 And they're kind of charging the police officer and moving at the police officer.

01:07:14.000 And look, let me just be very clear. 0.86

01:07:15.000 If this was Black Lives Matter, BLM Incorporated, treating a police officer like this, we would be denouncing this totally and completely. 0.92

01:07:22.000 Instantly. 0.97

01:07:23.000 And so that is, some people would say that video is showing that that is letting people through.

01:07:29.000 I wouldn't show it that way.

01:07:30.000 That looks like people that were trying to overwhelm a police officer, is what it looks like.

01:07:34.000 That gentleman was wearing a Q-shirt, it looked like.

01:07:37.000 Email us your questions, freedom at charliekirk.com.

01:07:41.000 And let's say right here, this is a good question here.

01:07:43.000 Charlie, are we watching the end of the Republican Party?

01:07:47.000 The Democrats and their allies, including big tech and news media, have flipped the switch to full-blown Marxism and totalitarianism rule of law.

01:07:54.000 The Republican leaders are beginning to just wake up and realize it's not the good old buddies across the aisle anymore watching Ted Cruz Mitch McConnell turn their backs on President Trump will not help their cause, nor resigning a cabinet position.

01:08:06.000 How do you like big tech's full assault on closing conservative accounts and purging them throughout all of this?

01:08:12.000 Personally, I don't think the Republicans understand the tremendous challenge in front of us all with being weak.

01:08:18.000 I think we're watching the end of the Republican Party, Chicago guy.

01:08:21.000 What do you think, Isabel?

01:08:22.000 I'm right there with you.

01:08:23.000 Honestly, I've said for quite some time that I don't necessarily think we'll have a two-party system within my lifetime anymore.

01:08:28.000 You're seeing such a significant fracture, particularly on the left side of the aisle as well, between this new age of socialism and then traditional liberalism.

01:08:38.000 And then obviously within the conservative side of thinking between establishment politics and new age conservatism, I think we're seeing that dissolve right before our eyes very, very clearly.

01:08:46.000 You're seeing well-known Republicans try to impeach the president of the United States for what?

01:08:51.000 For saying something during a speech that was actually contrary to what you're claiming, he says, I'm not exactly sure.

01:08:57.000 But we've come to a very unique point in human history and within conservative politics indeed.

01:09:03.000 I completely agree with that analysis.

01:09:05.000 Email us your questions, freedom at charliekirk.com.

01:09:08.000 Jack says this, Charlie, I'm 16 years old from Pittsburgh.

01:09:12.000 Half of my immediate family is Democrat.

01:09:14.000 When I make a good argument with facts, I'm just shut down because, quote, I don't have enough experience.

01:09:18.000 I was just having this conversation with one of our team members.

01:09:21.000 I want to get involved with Turning Point USA, but not sure how my friends and family around me will react.

01:09:25.000 What should I do?

01:09:27.000 Jack here, I'm not going to say what high school he goes to because I don't want him to lose his job opportunities.

01:09:31.000 Isabel, have you ever lost friends because of politics?

01:09:33.000 Friends, family members, acquaintances, mentors, you name it.

01:09:37.000 That is one of the really unfortunate realities of being an outspoken conservative now in 2021 and has been for the last few years.

01:09:44.000 But the people that have come into my life as a result of being outspoken and taking this journey by the reins mean so much more to me than anybody else who chose to walk out of my life.

01:09:54.000 That's a decision those people had to make.

01:09:56.000 If they feel better going to bed every night, not being associated with a conservative, that's on them.

01:10:01.000 But I can't tell you how many people, even those who disagree with me, have come into my life as a result of being so outspoken and well-rooted in my beliefs and respect me a lot more because of it.

01:10:11.000 It's a great answer.

01:10:12.000 Let's get to some other questions here.

01:10:13.000 I think we have some other sound that we want to play here that we didn't get to in the show here.

01:10:20.000 Let's get to, let's see here.

01:10:22.000 Oh, yeah, this is Anderson Cooper on the Capitol Rioters.

01:10:25.000 These people are just going to go back to Olive Garden.

01:10:27.000 Let's play cut 102.

01:10:32.000 It's stunning, and they're going to go back, you know, to the Olive Garden and to the holiday inn that they're staying at in the Garden Marriott.

01:10:40.000 And they're going to have some drinks and they're going to talk about the great day that they had in Washington and they really did something and stand up for something.

01:10:47.000 First of all, I think Olive Garden is generally underrated.

01:10:51.000 I agree with that statement.

01:10:52.000 Those breadsticks are good, you guys.

01:10:54.000 And I think that her view, his view, Anderson Cooper, if only all of us were heirs to the Vanderbilt fortune.

01:11:01.000 Do you know Anderson Cooper's?

01:11:02.000 The direct heir of his family.

01:11:03.000 How elitist did that sound, by the way?

01:11:05.000 I stated a holiday in a few months ago when I was on the road talking to you guys just to suggest that somehow you're culturally above Trump supporters or conservative people because we happen to eat at Olive Garden every once in a while.

01:11:17.000 And so demeaning.

01:11:18.000 We can't all afford $800 meals a night for the Vanderbilt heirs of Anderson Cooper.

01:11:25.000 His idea of Trump supporters is walking through Times Square and seeing Olive Garden and scoffing and saying, who would dare waste their money on such an establishment like this?

01:11:35.000 That is Anderson Cooper's view of the common man in this country.

01:11:41.000 Let's get to another clip here.

01:11:44.000 And that is, let's say here, I think we did do this one.

01:11:52.000 Oh, yeah, you know, it's really interesting when the left was calling for massive demonstrations.

01:11:57.000 Will the media ask Senator Kamala Harris if she is still in support of the types of riots and the arson and the marches?

01:12:04.000 Let's go to cut 92.

01:12:07.000 I know that there are protests still happening in major cities across the United States.

01:12:11.000 I'm just not seeing the reporting on it that I that I've been for the first few weeks.

01:12:15.000 That's right.

01:12:15.000 But they're not going to stop.

01:12:16.000 They're not going to stop.

01:12:17.000 And this is a movement.

01:12:20.000 I'm telling you.

01:12:20.000 They're not going to stop.

01:12:22.000 And everyone beware because they're not going to stop.

01:12:26.000 They're not going to stop before Election Day in November, and they're not going to stop after Election Day.

01:12:31.000 And that should be, everyone should take note of that on both levels.

01:12:34.000 That this isn't, they're not going to let up, and they should not.

01:12:37.000 And we should not.

01:12:41.000 Not going to stop, not going to stop, and not going to let up in any way whatsoever.

01:12:45.000 Let's also go to Black Lives Matter leader 89 at Aislin Pulley on the looting of the stores. 0.61

01:12:51.000 That is reparations.

01:12:52.000 Remember, she said these are reparations.

01:12:55.000 Let's go to 89, then 88, please.

01:12:59.000 If somebody decides to loot a Gucci or a Macy's or a Nike, because that makes sure that that person eats, that makes sure that that person has clothes.

01:13:08.000 That's reparations.

01:13:11.000 That is reparations.

01:13:13.000 Anything they want to take, take it, because these businesses have insurance.

01:13:16.000 They're going to get their money back.

01:13:18.000 You hear that?

01:13:19.000 You have insurance, so you could take everything.

01:13:21.000 That's the way that it works.

01:13:22.000 Let's go to cut 88: looters in the middle of the day stealing packages from the back of an Amazon truck.

01:13:28.000 This was perfectly justified.

01:13:29.000 Cut 88.

01:13:47.000 In the middle of the day, that was not denounced.

01:13:50.000 Instead, it was justified by people that wrote a book, The Case for Looting.

01:13:57.000 Do you remember that book that came out over the summer where they justified mass looting, arson, as a form of protest and redistribution economics?

01:14:09.000 Let's go to, actually, here's a good one here.

01:14:12.000 As we look at some of your questions, you guys are emailing us freedom at charliekirk.com, freedom at charliekirk.com.

01:14:19.000 Let's go to this one right here, just kind of a fun, lighthearted one.

01:14:22.000 Let's go to cut 96.

01:14:23.000 Remember when there was a new country formed in America?

01:14:27.000 This is true insurrection, and yet it was applauded by the media.

01:14:31.000 Cut 96. 1.00

01:14:33.000 Well, come on down to chazz.

01:14:36.000 Look at all the wonderful things that communism has to offer.

01:14:39.000 Feel safe in Chaz with strong border security and armed border guards. 0.85

01:14:44.000 Live like a good communist in chaz housing just like this. 0.93

01:14:49.000 You can live in slums. 0.99

01:14:51.000 No need to have ambulances and utopian chaz. 0.97

01:14:55.000 Turn them into housing.

01:14:57.000 No need to buy clothes. 0.95

01:14:58.000 Clothes are free in communist chaz.

01:15:01.000 Be a good environmentalist by throwing your trash everywhere and expecting capitalist America to pick it up.

01:15:08.000 So that is from the great Benny Johnson from our Turning Point USA Productions Department doing a great job of kind of making fun and making light of this.

01:15:17.000 Let's go to Cut 97, which remember, one of our Turning Point USA staff members got mobbed and assaulted inside of Chaz.

01:15:25.000 Is this not insurrection?

01:15:26.000 Is this not sedition?

01:15:27.000 play cut 97.

01:16:00.000 So that looks like a violent mob, doesn't it?

01:16:04.000 Yep, sure does.

01:16:05.000 And violence is a dustbin of history. 1.00

01:16:06.000 Pretty clear trait of Chaz, by the way. 1.00

01:16:09.000 We touched on that earlier, but in the end, by the time Chaz got shut down in Seattle, their homicide rate turned out to be over 1,200 per 100,000. 0.66

01:16:17.000 That's a rate nearly 50 times higher than Chicago's.

01:16:21.000 So it doesn't exactly sound like a place I want to live in or a place that should have been celebrated by the media, but here we are.

01:16:27.000 So here's a point here from Joey, who emailed us freedom at charliekirk.com.

01:16:32.000 He said, our social contract was broken on the 6th of January.

01:16:36.000 All those who believe in America feel as if we've been punched in the gut by our own government.

01:16:40.000 We declare our social contract with our government null and void.

01:16:43.000 So those that don't know what the social contract is, there were three major social contract theorists, Jean-Jacques Rousseau, Thomas Hobbes, and John Locke.

01:16:51.000 They all wrote about the social contract very differently.

01:16:54.000 Jean-Jacques Rousseau believed that our rights come from government.

01:16:57.000 He did not recognize God as the giver of rights.

01:16:59.000 John Locke did not agree with that.

01:17:01.000 He believed in the idea of natural rights.

01:17:03.000 Thomas Hobbes did not really give much of an opinion on where rights come from, but he believed that man in its state of nature or mankind is nasty, brutish, and short.

01:17:14.000 Therefore, a massive centralized government, what he called the Leviathan, would be necessary.

01:17:20.000 Social contract is usually referenced by people on the left saying that part of social contract is free housing and free health care, free food, things of that nature.

01:17:29.000 And because of that, the social contract means that because God is not the granter of rights, but government is, we have a right to all these sorts of things.

01:17:38.000 I do want to be very clear, though, that our social contract, as John Locke put it, is the protection of our natural rights and liberties.

01:17:49.000 If you do believe in social contract theory, as the founding fathers did, you would argue that the social contract was broken a long time ago.

01:17:59.000 Now, the response to that is not necessarily in any way whatsoever what I think should be violence in that retaliation.

01:18:05.000 But Joey, I appreciate the question or the comment freedom at charliekirk.com.

01:18:09.000 Do we have that clip that Andrew's referencing?

01:18:12.000 Okay, so this is something that the media has ignored.

01:18:18.000 This is the president talking about how he wants all demonstrations to be peaceful.

01:18:22.000 He was not calling for an insurrection.

01:18:24.000 Play tape.

01:18:26.000 I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard.

01:18:36.000 Hmm.

01:18:37.000 Peacefully and patriotically.

01:18:39.000 Make your voices heard.

01:18:41.000 He was not calling for an insurrection.

01:18:43.000 He was not calling for any of that.

01:18:44.000 Now, mind you, that clip took us quite a while to find, believe it or not, just because he had to dig into that.

01:18:49.000 And, you know, kind of difficult.

01:18:51.000 So, Isabel, here's a question you can help answer here.

01:18:54.000 Hey, Charlie, I'm 17 years old from the Chicagoland area and about to graduate high school.

01:18:58.000 I'm interested in knowing what high school because that's where I grew up.

01:19:01.000 It is breaking my heart to see where this country is headed.

01:19:03.000 It is frustrating that so many people, especially in my generation, think what the government and big tech are doing is okay.

01:19:09.000 Even people in my church are in support of these radical ideas from the left.

01:19:13.000 What do you think needs to happen to unite the Republican Party to get people to start listening to what we have to say?

01:19:18.000 With all the censorship we have seen, especially in the past few months, it'll be difficult to get our message out, but most definitely a fight worth having.

01:19:24.000 Thank you for all you are doing to help empower all conservatives.

01:19:27.000 Cameron, he wants a signed copy of the book.

01:19:30.000 Isabel, a lot of young people believe in censorship and all this.

01:19:33.000 What is he supposed to do?

01:19:34.000 Say something.

01:19:35.000 It's that simple.

01:19:35.000 And first of all, thank you for your question.

01:19:37.000 I know you're feeling similarly to most people in our generation, and that's incredibly frustrating, particularly from a religious and church standpoint.

01:19:44.000 The church is no longer a conservative institution in the United States, and that's really been disappointing to see how many pastors and leaders of faith have decided to instead practice the religion of leftism rather than the religion of Christianity.

01:19:57.000 So you're not alone in that feeling either.

01:20:00.000 But it starts with just saying something, it starts with speaking up.

01:20:03.000 It doesn't take rocket science.

01:20:04.000 And I think what I've learned more prominently in the last year and a half or so since I've been doing this media side of activism after I graduated college is that all it takes is one person being willing to stand for truth and speak truth to start a momentum and sort of a cultural revolution within the community that you're a part of.

01:20:23.000 People are scared to be the first one to say something, but once they see someone else start to post videos, put things out there on the internet, to make speeches on your campus, at your church, get people registered to vote and get involved, that's when other people start feeling inspired to do the same thing.

01:20:37.000 And particularly when we look at the culture of conservatism and the Republican Party, I think historically people have been content to watch historical leaders continue to speak up for them.

01:20:48.000 That's why you've seen career politicians in power for decades upon decades upon decades.

01:20:53.000 That has to end today.

01:20:55.000 And we're starting to see new generations of leaders start to enter the political arena.

01:21:00.000 Congressman Cawthorne, who we've spoken to several times in the last few days, being a perfect example of that.

01:21:06.000 But it starts with you taking on a position of leadership, not being content with letting other people speak for you.

01:21:11.000 I completely, that's exactly right.

01:21:13.000 And I could tell you that as a young person, more speech is better.

01:21:16.000 And look, the tech censorship stuff is real.

01:21:18.000 So go create Rumble accounts, go create parlor accounts, and subscribe to the Charlie Kirk Show podcast.

01:21:24.000 They're not going to be able to cancel us there.

01:21:25.000 Right.

01:21:26.000 CharlieKirk.com unless they take down the whole internet, which I wouldn't put it past them of kind of where they're headed.

01:21:31.000 And that's actually why I love radio.

01:21:33.000 You know, people say, Charlie, why are you on radio?

01:21:35.000 I'm like, look, first of all, radio still has a great listenership, but radio is going to be the last line of defense.

01:21:39.000 We're going to go back to radio, and all of a sudden, we're going to be able to communicate to people almost uninterrupted.

01:21:44.000 And so we're really, really proud of that.

01:21:46.000 So here's a good question here.

01:21:49.000 Actually, not that one.

01:21:50.000 Let's go to this one.

01:21:54.000 You know what?

01:21:55.000 Is Rob back there?

01:21:57.000 I have a question.

01:21:57.000 Is Rob there?

01:21:59.000 I want to bring Rob on for this question here because this is actually a really good question.

01:22:04.000 So it's just about some of the prophecy and how we're supposed to interpret that.

01:22:11.000 Some people that were, hey, Rob, how are you doing?

01:22:13.000 I got a question for you here.

01:22:15.000 I'm going to put you on the spot.

01:22:16.000 So everyone, welcome back, Pastor Rob.

01:22:18.000 But before we, as Rob gets kind of queued up here, let's get to this question.

01:22:26.000 So actually, we'll just go right to you, Rob.

01:22:28.000 Is Mike working?

01:22:29.000 Just in.

01:22:30.000 Good.

01:22:31.000 So, Rob, here's a question.

01:22:32.000 There's a lot of Christians that are watching our stream here.

01:22:35.000 And this one right here is: Hi, my name is Rachel.

01:22:37.000 I live in Michigan.

01:22:38.000 I listen to you all the time.

01:22:39.000 Thank you.

01:22:39.000 I'm a non-denominational Christian.

01:22:41.000 I was wondering what I should make of all the prophets that have said that President Trump is going to serve a second term.

01:22:46.000 We've gotten a lot of questions like this.

01:22:48.000 How are they supposed to process this and handle this?

01:22:50.000 Yeah.

01:22:51.000 In the Old Testament, if a prophet was wrong, they'd stone them.

01:22:55.000 Everyone, you know, and from my vantage point, and there's charismatics out there and Calvary Chapels who I'm affiliated with, we call cessationists, which believe certain gifts are not for today.

01:23:09.000 Prophecy is one that we do hold to.

01:23:14.000 But in the same regard, you can speak to the future on certain things, but to be found completely wrong and say, thus saith the Lord, you're disqualified.

01:23:26.000 You got to be real careful who you're following.

01:23:29.000 I call it hopium.

01:23:30.000 Yeah, I used that term the other day.

01:23:32.000 Yeah, and everyone's out there and you can get a following.

01:23:36.000 You can generate traffic to your site because you're giving people hopium.

01:23:41.000 But when you're wrong, you're wrong.

01:23:45.000 And you say thus saith the Lord, you're messing around with a statement that puts you a lot of gravity behind that, right?

01:23:51.000 It's serious.

01:23:52.000 I'm sorry, not gravity.

01:23:53.000 Well, yeah, because, for example, and I don't want to, you know, belabor.

01:23:57.000 No, no, I understand.

01:23:58.000 And I wasn't going to use an example in that regard.

01:24:02.000 When a pastor, so for example, a pastor is protected in the sense that you have to have two or three witnesses if they do something wrong.

01:24:09.000 But in the same regard, if those two or three witnesses are legitimate, the consequences are far greater.

01:24:16.000 So when you're out there saying thus saith the Lord and you're wrong, the consequences are far greater.

01:24:21.000 Because a lot of people did do that.

01:24:23.000 So thank you for clarifying that.

01:24:25.000 Hey, guys, do we have clipping ability right now?

01:24:29.000 Can we go back to that video with no sound, please, of them letting people in?

01:24:33.000 We played it twice before.

01:24:35.000 We have a lot of people coming in.

01:24:36.000 I do want to comment on this.

01:24:38.000 I think it's super important here.

01:24:40.000 And you guys can support our program at charliekirk.com slash support.

01:24:44.000 I want to thank some of our supporters.

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01:24:47.000 Rick, you know where Sam in Idaho is, right?

01:24:49.000 Where's Rick?

01:24:50.000 Is Rick still there?

01:24:50.000 He's out there.

01:24:51.000 Rick's on the phone or something.

01:24:53.000 He knows where Salmon Idaho is.

01:24:54.000 You know where Sam in Idaho is?

01:24:55.000 Yes.

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01:24:58.000 Yeah.

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01:25:08.000 Okay, let's go to this tape here.

01:25:09.000 No sound, or else they're going to pull down the feed, but we'll narrate it.

01:25:14.000 And feel free to chime in, guys, as this happens.

01:25:17.000 I have a question.

01:25:18.000 Why would you let them in just to tear gas them?

01:25:21.000 And so there were other points of entry where they were smashing windows and stuff.

01:25:25.000 But at this point of entry, it looks as if these are invited visitors or someone gave a stand down order.

01:25:31.000 Let's play the tape, please, in the bottom right-hand corner.

01:25:35.000 So here we have here, looks to be participants in the march.

01:25:40.000 I don't see in this video any paraphernalia that shows any right-wing extremism, right?

01:25:48.000 And it just kind of goes to show they're here and watch very carefully as they walk in.

01:25:54.000 That's a police officer right here.

01:25:58.000 Police officer not wearing a mask, police officer, and they're just kind of shrugging their shoulders and saying, I guess we're going to let them in.

01:26:03.000 Now, there's a couple explanations here.

01:26:05.000 The police could have felt overwhelmed and they didn't want the confrontation, right?

01:26:08.000 Right.

01:26:09.000 And just said, forget it.

01:26:10.000 We'll deal with this, you know, once we get a higher order.

01:26:14.000 And maybe they didn't want to be known for killing somebody or doing something, which another police officer did do, whether it was justified or not.

01:26:21.000 We'll find out.

01:26:22.000 Is that an officer? 0.97

01:26:23.000 No, that's a journalist right there with the N95. 0.52

01:26:23.000 No, I'm sorry. 0.52

01:26:28.000 Gotcha.

01:26:29.000 So importantly, too, if you guys have never been to the U.S. Capitol building, that's not a door.

01:26:34.000 Can typically just walk through.

01:26:36.000 There's a very, very extreme set of security protocols that you have to go through to make it into the Capitol building, the White House, and the Supreme Court collectively.

01:26:46.000 But that's not a typical entrance that even members would use to get in the building.

01:26:50.000 So that's definitely interesting to me.

01:26:53.000 So let's go back to that, though, that video, because I want to just go to the first couple seconds and rewind it.

01:26:59.000 Just look how the doors just kind of go open.

01:27:01.000 This is an important thing.

01:27:03.000 The most telling part of the video, I'll tell you when to pause it.

01:27:06.000 Pause it right now.

01:27:07.000 Oh, geez.

01:27:08.000 We got Ben Sess.

01:27:10.000 It's okay.

01:27:11.000 It's hard to pause these videos midstream.

01:27:13.000 It is tough.

01:27:13.000 So let's try to go back.

01:27:13.000 It is.

01:27:17.000 The most telling part of the video is right here, where the doors just kind of seem to be opened from the inside.

01:27:23.000 Yeah, you can't open them from the outside.

01:27:24.000 There's no way to open them.

01:27:25.000 I mean, they're probably locked, right?

01:27:27.000 And so you kind of look at the side of the door there.

01:27:29.000 It looks like it's a top-down lock that kind of went through.

01:27:32.000 This particular video right here is not a riot.

01:27:37.000 There are parts that were riot.

01:27:39.000 It looks, you know, that legitimately.

01:27:40.000 Yeah.

01:27:41.000 But this just kind of looks like a seamless entry into the Capitol, doesn't it?

01:27:46.000 Yeah.

01:27:47.000 Now, whether they should have been there or not is a completely different question, but I haven't seen this on television.

01:27:54.000 And we likely won't.

01:27:55.000 No.

01:27:56.000 And so another question is: why weren't the doors locked?

01:28:00.000 I mean, it seems like those doors could have withstood a lot, but it just seems as if those doors weren't locked either.

01:28:06.000 There's two sets of doors there.

01:28:08.000 And those police officers don't look like they're fearing for their lives.

01:28:12.000 They look inconvenienced.

01:28:13.000 More than this kind of look like, fine, we'll let you through, whatever.

01:28:16.000 You know, you're going to storm the Capitol.

01:28:18.000 You know, we're not going to do that.

01:28:20.000 Now, that being said, those folks walking in and occupying the rotunda, you just shouldn't have been there.

01:28:30.000 I mean, that's a given.

01:28:34.000 But to be let in, there's going to be consequences.

01:28:37.000 And it's all based on intentions.

01:28:39.000 A lot of folks there, they had nefarious intentions, but it seems as though those that were walking through, their intention wasn't mob-like.

01:28:48.000 But I would say just what my father used to say to me: don't go where you don't belong.

01:28:52.000 You know, just bad things happen when you're in places you shouldn't be.

01:28:56.000 And that's an unfortunate truth.

01:28:56.000 Yeah.

01:28:59.000 And some people say, disagree with that, but that's.

01:29:03.000 Well, they say it's a people's house, and I understand that. 0.99

01:29:06.000 And that's correct.

01:29:07.000 But the correct entry into the people's house is through one of the allowed points of entry.

01:29:12.000 Do it like everyone else does.

01:29:13.000 Yeah.

01:29:14.000 And it was shut down for the day.

01:29:16.000 And we did talk about earlier in the show what a mass civil disobedience would have looked like.

01:29:21.000 Go to Pennsylvania Avenue, 200,000 people, sit down, sing patriotic songs, make them arrest you.

01:29:27.000 Right.

01:29:28.000 Here's a good question here.

01:29:30.000 Charlie, I'm a non-denominational Christian mother of five who live and go to public school in the East Bay area in California.

01:29:37.000 Today I learned that some of the high school and middle school teachers have taken upon themselves to tell the students what they believe happened at the Capitol the other day, of course.

01:29:44.000 An entire generation, just so you know, has now been indoctrinated 10 points away from conservatism because of this.

01:29:50.000 And some of you say that doesn't matter.

01:29:52.000 You have no idea.

01:29:53.000 You don't.

01:29:55.000 One English teacher even told them what happened at the yesterday was a riot, not a protest, and that the BLM protests over the summer were the correct way to protest and were not riots at all.

01:30:05.000 She opined that President Trump lied when he said in his speech that the election was rigged and full of fraud.

01:30:10.000 Also had a similar opinion given the marine science teacher.

01:30:13.000 How should I respond to the school districts as well as the teachers?

01:30:16.000 Rob, do you want to start with that as a parent, as a former mayor?

01:30:20.000 Yeah.

01:30:20.000 So just general local involvement, how to handle this stuff when teachers get out of line.

01:30:25.000 In California, I didn't hear what state this was, but it's California.

01:30:29.000 Okay.

01:30:30.000 Yeah.

01:30:30.000 A Bay Area.

01:30:31.000 So the CTA dominates The California Teachers Association is probably one of the most, it's probably the strongest political entity in California.

01:30:40.000 It dominates California elections.

01:30:42.000 And the CTA has dominated school boards and has purposely filled those seats and spent a lot of money to do so.

01:30:48.000 You'll go in, you'll speak, and you'll probably fall on deaf ears.

01:30:53.000 And they're probably not going to like my answer.

01:30:55.000 Pull your kid out of the school.

01:30:57.000 Pull your kid out of school.

01:30:59.000 And some people say, I can't afford to do that.

01:31:01.000 I'm just telling you.

01:31:02.000 I understand that.

01:31:03.000 That's a common answer we got.

01:31:04.000 I'm a pastor of five kids, and we were able to homeschool our children.

01:31:09.000 We had to make on a pastor's salary.

01:31:13.000 And we had to make compromises.

01:31:14.000 We had to live in places that most people probably wouldn't have lived.

01:31:21.000 You live more simply that you can simply live.

01:31:25.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:31:26.000 What is your greatest asset?

01:31:28.000 What is your greatest treasure?

01:31:30.000 Where your treasure is, your heart is also.

01:31:32.000 And the greatest treasure we possess, my wife and I, is our children.

01:31:36.000 I want the best for them.

01:31:37.000 Why are you going to invest in bobbles and trinkets and have the three-bedroom, two-bath with the white picket fence while you allow your kids to be indoctrinated, have to endure this when you can make a difference?

01:31:49.000 It's a reestablishing of priorities.

01:31:52.000 And we've survived in California and raised those five kids, and they all walk with the Lord, and they're all conservative.

01:31:56.000 Were you homeschooled, Isabelle?

01:31:57.000 I attended private school for most of the schools.

01:31:59.000 Were your sisters homeschooled?

01:32:00.000 Someone was homeschooled.

01:32:01.000 None of us were homeschooled.

01:32:01.000 You guys act like you were all homeschooled.

01:32:04.000 We had very lucky opportunities for great teachers.

01:32:07.000 Let me add this.

01:32:08.000 Our children were homeschooled, but when they got to a certain place, some we allowed to go into public school, some went into private school, some completely homeschooled.

01:32:17.000 It was all dependent on what they were prepared for.

01:32:19.000 And we've done every single form of schooling there is.

01:32:23.000 The other thing is, my parents took a really active role when I was growing up to supplement our education by literally just talking to their children about what was happening in the world around them, explaining this person is running for president and this is what they believe in.

01:32:37.000 Here's what your dad and I believe, but here's what the opposite side believes.

01:32:40.000 And really taking the time to have a holistic conversation with us as children, not waiting for us to grow up, exposed us to so many different ways of thinking, understanding how the world worked, having our challenging perspectives, you know, get to duke it out at the dinner table.

01:32:54.000 And way too many children lack that opportunity in the United States.

01:32:57.000 Can I add one more thing?

01:32:58.000 Yeah, of course.

01:32:58.000 Proverb says, raise a child in the way that they should go.

01:33:00.000 When they're old, they won't depart thereof.

01:33:02.000 Parents are stewards.

01:33:04.000 They've been entrusted with the lives of these children.

01:33:07.000 And they are accountable before God.

01:33:08.000 And they can't blame public school teachers.

01:33:10.000 They can't blame the public school system.

01:33:13.000 They are accountable.

01:33:14.000 So you are required to do the best for your child and raise them in the way that they should go.

01:33:19.000 And according to their bend, according no one knows your kid better than you.

01:33:24.000 So this is a question from someone in Denver, Colorado.

01:33:28.000 My people.

01:33:28.000 Woohoo!

01:33:29.000 Hey, Charlie, I'm a 15-year-old from Denver, Colorado, and I go to Regis Jesuit High School.

01:33:34.000 My question is: how do you see the Republican Party coming back from falling behind in the Senate and other areas of government when we see these urban Democratic cities growing at an exponential rate?

01:33:42.000 Love your work, Charlie.

01:33:43.000 Thank you for being honest and faithful leader in a time like this.

01:33:46.000 Also, I see my generation moving towards the socialist agenda, and it scares me.

01:33:46.000 Thank you.

01:33:50.000 He's a 15-year-old.

01:33:51.000 He's a smart kid.

01:33:52.000 I mean, there's more 15-year-olds that I've seen rise up than 50-year-olds.

01:33:57.000 How do we draw these kids back into the constitutional loving generation?

01:34:00.000 This kid's 15 years old.

01:34:01.000 Isabel, he's an enlightened Coloradoan.

01:34:04.000 Yes, you are.

01:34:05.000 Help answer his question.

01:34:06.000 He's worried about the generation going to socialism, worried about where's the future of the party going.

01:34:11.000 You know, I'm not sure that there is necessarily a strong future for the Republican Party as we've known it historically, but that's not a bad thing.

01:34:19.000 And we have been presented with a very unique set of circumstances in the beginning of 2021 to evaluate what types of qualities we want in the people who we elect to lead us.

01:34:30.000 We don't always get opportunities to reflect on that.

01:34:33.000 And this is a very, very crucial time in history for conservatives in this country to direct the future of the Republican Party or the conservative movement, or you can enter any other name into that sentence for the first time in a very long time.

01:34:48.000 I think the concept of establishment politics has gone out the window on both sides of the aisle.

01:34:53.000 But that's a good thing.

01:34:54.000 And it takes young people like you being willing to speak up and say something.

01:34:59.000 I can't tell you how many times I've spoken to older audiences within the last year and a half or so, even to conservative and Republican audiences, and been told, You're 23, you don't have enough quote-unquote life experience to talk about this and be educated and influence culture.

01:35:15.000 That could not be further off base.

01:35:17.000 It was young people that determined what the United States of America were going to be in the first place, and we have an opportunity to direct the future of conservative politics in the future.

01:35:26.000 That's a great answer.

01:35:27.000 Kathleen Hoffman sent us an email.

01:35:30.000 She's a good supporter of ours.

01:35:32.000 I just heard your idea regarding how Wednesday could have gone.

01:35:34.000 Well, why can't that happen on Inauguration Day?

01:35:36.000 Patriots everywhere could gather and sing songs, country's great songs.

01:35:39.000 There's many beautiful songs to tell the great story of America.

01:35:42.000 Inspired.

01:35:43.000 It should.

01:35:44.000 What a great kind of contrast to show that the Trump movement was not defined this last Wednesday.

01:35:50.000 That, and again, if you're going to then go civilly disobedient because you don't believe that the election results are valid, let's go through what the rules of civil disobedience are as embraced by effectiveness and a moral compass, right?

01:36:04.000 So you can resist in a moral framework.

01:36:09.000 But what happened on Wednesday, those people that were smashing windows and all that, was not.

01:36:14.000 Here's the rules, as defined by the great Henry David Thoreau.

01:36:19.000 Number one, you must be willing to accept the punishment.

01:36:22.000 You do not run away.

01:36:23.000 You don't run masks.

01:36:25.000 You pay the full price.

01:36:27.000 Number two, you must have a clear goal in mind.

01:36:29.000 You're not protesting just because you're generally angry.

01:36:32.000 You're trying to accomplish something specific: an election audit, changes in election state law, something specific.

01:36:39.000 Number three, you've exhausted all other options.

01:36:42.000 In this case, I think that we have satisfied that.

01:36:44.000 Number four, though, it's very important.

01:36:46.000 Critical.

01:36:47.000 You don't destroy people's stuff and you don't hurt people.

01:36:50.000 That is the doctrine of civil disobedience.

01:36:52.000 If Trump supporters out there did these four things on Wednesday, I will be there supporting you.

01:36:58.000 I will be there backing you, and you will win over public opinion.

01:37:01.000 You will do more to advance the cause than going and just burning a bunch of stuff like a, you know.

01:37:08.000 When we had agreed with the elders of the church, with the staff, the congregation, that we were going to defy the governor's order when he said that the church was non-essential and that we would violate the emergency restraining order of the judge, we knew what the consequences were.

01:37:24.000 And I'd actually contacted the sheriff and I said, there'll be no resistance from us.

01:37:27.000 You come and arrest me.

01:37:28.000 We're going to face the consequences.

01:37:30.000 But you're going to get that optic.

01:37:33.000 You're going to have to arrest us.

01:37:34.000 We're not going to contend with you, but you're going to have to arrest us.

01:37:37.000 And we were willing to lose everything and still are.

01:37:40.000 But we're in no way going to be violent.

01:37:44.000 And then I would add this: in the great Congressman Bob McEwen, he said to an individual, said, You know, we're getting a million people to march on Washington.

01:37:52.000 And it was during an election season.

01:37:54.000 And he said, What do you think that costs to get a million people to Washington?

01:37:57.000 Airfare, transportation, rental car hotels, logistics.

01:38:00.000 He said, I don't know.

01:38:01.000 And he says, Could that money be used more profoundly in an election?

01:38:06.000 Maybe using that energy to walk precincts, maybe using that energy to be poll watchers, maybe, and we want to say something, but like you profoundly pointed out to me, Charlie, Florida had no irregularities.

01:38:19.000 In California, we won some areas of shenanigans.

01:38:23.000 Despite massive shenanigans, it's where people participate in the process.

01:38:27.000 We've gone through this in California.

01:38:29.000 People worked hard to get Garcia in the United States. 0.93

01:38:31.000 Let's talk about this, Rob.

01:38:32.000 So you live in California.

01:38:33.000 People are saying, I'm never going to vote again.

01:38:35.000 Everything is broken. 1.00

01:38:36.000 The world is stupid. 1.00

01:38:37.000 But you live in California. 1.00

01:38:38.000 I do.

01:38:38.000 And let's talk about three races, congressional races.

01:38:42.000 And this is that all of a sudden, Republicans won, even though there was a broken system in all this.

01:38:47.000 But I think part of it, though, Rob, Young Kim, Michelle Steele, Mike Garcia, I think part of it, though, is post-2018, a lot of Republicans all of a sudden got alert.

01:38:57.000 They were like, we're going to become election judges, right?

01:38:59.000 We're going to all of a sudden put pressure on local county officials.

01:39:01.000 I'm sure there was still a bunch of nonsense.

01:39:04.000 Yeah.

01:39:05.000 But there was less than 2018, and enough Republicans rose up to make up the difference, right?

01:39:10.000 And you got to remember, Mike Garcia won twice.

01:39:14.000 He won the first time in the provisional election, which had a remaining time for Katie Hill's seat.

01:39:20.000 And then he had to win again.

01:39:21.000 And he did that both times in a district that really wasn't favoring him.

01:39:26.000 And then Young Kim lost the first time, but she was back in Washington and they found these ballots.

01:39:30.000 They found the ballots.

01:39:31.000 Yeah.

01:39:31.000 And all of a sudden, she had to go back.

01:39:32.000 Well, she didn't give up.

01:39:33.000 Yeah.

01:39:34.000 And now she's a Congresswoman.

01:39:34.000 She didn't give up.

01:39:36.000 And now she's a Congresswoman.

01:39:37.000 And Gil Cisneros isn't.

01:39:38.000 In California.

01:39:40.000 And for all those folks who want to give up, those are the folks that are sending the visceral emails.

01:39:43.000 They're listening to the hopium.

01:39:46.000 They don't step out of their armchair. 0.98

01:39:48.000 And you've got to go, you're waiting for it to just be solved for you.

01:39:53.000 Yeah.

01:39:53.000 And well, you're also waiting for it to be so bad that you get to do what you've always dreamed of because you think that's always been, you've been doing this prepping your whole life.

01:40:01.000 Come on.

01:40:02.000 This is a government of the people, by the people, and for the people.

01:40:04.000 We got here because of the apathy and the inactivity.

01:40:08.000 Turn it around.

01:40:08.000 Participate.

01:40:09.000 Don't give up.

01:40:10.000 Don't quit.

01:40:10.000 Seriously.

01:40:11.000 And don't overly generalize the entire U.S. system.

01:40:15.000 There are states that are backwards and broken and all this.

01:40:18.000 But incredibly, California led to charge on all this mail-in balloting nonsense.

01:40:23.000 But despite all of it, in 2020, Republicans made serious gains in the congressional races.

01:40:29.000 And so that goes to show that things can get better.

01:40:31.000 Now, is California where we need it to be?

01:40:33.000 Or are illegals voting and all that?

01:40:35.000 That stuff really needs to get figured out. 1.00

01:40:37.000 I totally agree with that.

01:40:38.000 However, you went from catastrophe to better.

01:40:42.000 Okay.

01:40:42.000 Well, all of a sudden, then you ask yourself the question: why has it's really interesting?

01:40:47.000 When I was listening to the Electoral College results, and Vice President Pence asked, are there any objections to the state of Florida?

01:40:54.000 No one objected.

01:40:54.000 No.

01:40:55.000 Democrat didn't object.

01:40:56.000 No.

01:40:56.000 Republican didn't object.

01:40:57.000 That's the third or fourth largest state in the country that Donald Trump won by 400,000 votes.

01:41:01.000 Yet everyone agrees with it.

01:41:03.000 Well, Florida's doing something right.

01:41:04.000 So all of a sudden, you can get fair and free elections.

01:41:07.000 And Florida used to be a state that was razor-thin margins, 10,000 votes, nonsense and shenanigans in Broward County, yet they fixed it.

01:41:13.000 How?

01:41:14.000 Because citizens got really fed up with the way things were.

01:41:18.000 You're getting angry in the swamp and you're tired of the swamp.

01:41:20.000 And so you get it.

01:41:21.000 And you all descend on the swamp.

01:41:23.000 But don't forget the swamp is the place where the source of the water ends up after it collects all the trash.

01:41:28.000 You want to change the swamp?

01:41:29.000 Change the source.

01:41:30.000 Source is always local.

01:41:32.000 You can have a profound effect.

01:41:34.000 And today's dog catcher is tomorrow's congressmen.

01:41:36.000 Amen.

01:41:36.000 So participate in local government.

01:41:38.000 Do your job.

01:41:39.000 You can make a difference in a community.

01:41:41.000 It's because we've abdicated our responsibility with a government that's of the people, by the people, and for the people.

01:41:46.000 We want someone else to do it or we quit.

01:41:48.000 Importantly, too, something we can learn from Florida is that they didn't wait until the next presidential election or even gubernatorial election.

01:41:55.000 They went out and they knocked on doors and they registered millions of people to vote before DeSantis' election a few years ago.

01:42:02.000 And they rose up and they sued.

01:42:04.000 They put pressure.

01:42:06.000 They never put their eyes off the Miami-Dade County supervisors or the Broward County supervisors.

01:42:11.000 And they demanded change.

01:42:12.000 The activists did.

01:42:14.000 And now Florida is one of the most conservative, open, religiously tolerant states that I think is a blueprint.

01:42:22.000 And so, look, I would be where you guys are if every state was like this.

01:42:26.000 But Florida, by 9.30 Eastern, can anyone show me any allegation of voter fraud in Florida that's substantive?

01:42:34.000 And they were done counting.

01:42:35.000 I could show you a stack in Georgia and Arizona.

01:42:37.000 So here's the difference.

01:42:39.000 What happened?

01:42:41.000 Answer.

01:42:42.000 The Florida Republican Party was run by the grassroots, people not in the armchairs, people really focusing where we want things to go.

01:42:49.000 And Florida was an active, robust, bottom-up party.

01:42:52.000 Georgia was not.

01:42:54.000 Georgia was an apathetic.

01:42:56.000 This is always going to be a Republican state type thing where the Democrats were motivated and well-funded with weak Republicans.

01:43:02.000 Well, now you have an opportunity to fix that, everybody.

01:43:05.000 You do.

01:43:07.000 Here's a good question.

01:43:07.000 Hi, Charlie.

01:43:08.000 I'm a 16-year-old junior in high school.

01:43:10.000 I'm sickened by all my classmates and friends spreading leftist lies, including BLM poster in my cafeteria.

01:43:16.000 Should I speak up and voice my opinion in doing so, risking backlash?

01:43:22.000 Also, can I get some info on starting a TPUSA chapter?

01:43:25.000 I feel my high school really needs it.

01:43:27.000 Yes.

01:43:28.000 And yes.

01:43:29.000 So, Isabel, should he speak up?

01:43:30.000 Will he lose friends?

01:43:31.000 What's the blueprint there?

01:43:33.000 I hesitate to tell people one way or another whether they should make that difficult choice of speaking up or not, because it is a deeply personal choice that has ramifications socially, academically, online with your career prospects potentially, especially if you're a college student.

01:43:49.000 So it is a deeply personal choice to make.

01:43:51.000 I eventually hit what I like to call my breaking point in college where I kind of just snapped and I said, you know, I'm tired.

01:43:58.000 I'm tired of not seeing anyone advocate for the things I believe in.

01:44:01.000 I'm tired of seeing all these BLM posters line the hallways of my dorm and my student government office.

01:44:07.000 I'm tired of the silence from the right.

01:44:10.000 So I'm going to do something about it.

01:44:11.000 I'm going to say something about it.

01:44:13.000 And it was the best decision I ever made, but it didn't come without its consequences.

01:44:16.000 And so I think that's a personal choice that you might have to make, but it's 100% worth it.

01:44:21.000 And the number of people that will be inspired by your decision to use your voice to speak up, to fight the man, so to speak, of your teachers and your administration, that starts something that's so much bigger than yourself on campus.

01:44:33.000 I've watched you, Charlie.

01:44:36.000 You are civil, you're kind, but you're persuasive and you don't back down. 0.99

01:44:42.000 You don't have to be a jerk, but you also don't have to compromise. 0.98

01:44:47.000 The scripture says, speak the truth in love. 0.99

01:44:50.000 And to do that, you respect the person you're talking to.

01:44:52.000 And every time they revile you, you don't revile back.

01:44:55.000 That's the ticket.

01:44:56.000 Speak up, but do it wisely.

01:44:58.000 And also, if you do speak up, before you do, pray about it, and just know you are going to probably lose some friends.

01:45:06.000 You will not be the one that will be severing.

01:45:08.000 Right.

01:45:08.000 But that is somewhat inevitable.

01:45:10.000 I always tell people the proper disclaimers ahead of time.

01:45:14.000 Here's a good question here.

01:45:16.000 Good afternoon, Charlie.

01:45:17.000 My name is Jalen.

01:45:18.000 I'm a 20-year-old from Florida.

01:45:19.000 My father told me I sold my soul because I'm a young black conservative.

01:45:23.000 What should I tell him and how can I learn more about the Republican Party?

01:45:26.000 Love the show, by the way, Jalen Matthews.

01:45:28.000 Well, first of all, God bless you.

01:45:30.000 Welcome aboard in the Republican Party.

01:45:32.000 I'm going to send you a signed copy of my book, which I think will be informative of what the Republican Party stands for.

01:45:37.000 This is a hard thing, but don't take that seriously.

01:45:40.000 That is an emotionally driven insult.

01:45:43.000 That is not something I think he actually even believes.

01:45:46.000 He believes the Republicans to be something they are not.

01:45:49.000 The Republican Party has always been and will always be the party of liberation of people that are currently in a less than desirable situation to elevate the individual above the, let's say, the false lies of the collective.

01:46:06.000 The Democrats are always about trying to keep people in a collective at a certain position by telling them they are not enough, by telling them they don't have the skills or possess the capacity to rise above.

01:46:19.000 The Republican Party ended slavery.

01:46:20.000 The Republican Party has always been the party against racism, and it is today.

01:46:25.000 Despite what people tell you on television, despite what people tell you in school and otherwise, the Republican Party has always been the party that has not cared about people's skin color, but instead cared about people's character and values.

01:46:38.000 And I'll prove it to you. 0.52

01:46:40.000 Joe Biden yesterday came out and said that if this was a BLM incorporated rally, the police officers would have shot all of the people in the Capitol.

01:46:53.000 I think we have a tape of this, don't we, Connor?

01:46:55.000 I'm going to prove to you how racist the Democrat Party is.

01:46:59.000 Play tape. 0.88

01:47:00.000 No one can tell me that if it had been a group of Black Lives Matter protesting yesterday, there wouldn't have been, they wouldn't have been treated very, very differently than the mob of thugs that stormed the Capitol.

01:47:17.000 So you might say, well, where's the racism?

01:47:21.000 He's calling the police officers inherently racist by saying they would have acted in a certain violent way automatically just because the people there would have been black instead of white, judging people based on their immutable characteristics, judging all the police in that fashion.

01:47:39.000 So keep the faith.

01:47:40.000 Thank you for the question, and I hope to meet you soon.

01:47:43.000 Get involved with TurningPointUSA, TPUSA.com.

01:47:47.000 Email us your questions, freedom at charliekirk.com.

01:47:53.000 Let's see here.

01:47:55.000 Let's get this question right here.

01:47:59.000 Hey, Charlie, I'm Dane.

01:48:00.000 I just want to spread a reminder whether or not we're oppressed as conservatives.

01:48:04.000 God is in control.

01:48:05.000 I'm sure the Israelites held in slavery by Egypt or even the New Testament Christians that we read, were truly inspired by the Bible, would be willing to trade places with us.

01:48:12.000 Despite the negatives we're facing in our country, God is still beyond good and blesses us each and every day.

01:48:17.000 Amen.

01:48:18.000 And no politician can ever take away our salvation.

01:48:20.000 It's the one thing that no one can take.

01:48:22.000 Great message, Dane.

01:48:23.000 Thank you for that.

01:48:24.000 We appreciate that.

01:48:26.000 Hi, Charlie.

01:48:27.000 My name is Stacey Mainz.

01:48:28.000 I'm a 30 or 8-year-old single mom that listens to your show.

01:48:31.000 Obviously not in college, but I think Brazos County, Texas could use a turning point chapter.

01:48:34.000 Am I too old for this?

01:48:35.000 Thanks for all your work.

01:48:36.000 Well, we have other ways that you can get involved.

01:48:37.000 I'm going to email that to our team here, and we're going to get you engaged and get involved.

01:48:42.000 Email us your questions, freedom at charliekirk.com.

01:48:46.000 Here is Ireland.

01:48:48.000 Here's one for you, Isabel.

01:48:49.000 My name is Ireland.

01:48:50.000 What a great name.

01:48:51.000 I love that name.

01:48:52.000 I'm a 15-year-old Christian conservative that just moved to Los Angeles from Northern California before the first lockdown.

01:48:58.000 I started homeschooling in the middle of my freshman year.

01:49:00.000 I've been getting a lot of pressure from my dad and other people in my family to go to college.

01:49:04.000 My mom is the only one that thinks I should do what is right for me.

01:49:07.000 I personally don't want to go to college, and I don't think I need it to achieve my dream.

01:49:12.000 I believe that most of it is a scam, and they're stealing money, people's money, especially since in Los Angeles, the majority of people here, our schools are liberal.

01:49:21.000 Do you have any advice on this matter and things that I can do to say to my family so they can stop pressuring me into something I don't want to do?

01:49:27.000 Also, thank you so much for what you do.

01:49:29.000 I listen to your podcast.

01:49:30.000 You inspire me.

01:49:31.000 So, Isabel, you went to Colorado State and Georgetown.

01:49:33.000 And Georgetown.

01:49:34.000 You were much more educated than me where I went nowhere.

01:49:37.000 Yeah.

01:49:37.000 So you've spent a lot of money on education, a lot of time.

01:49:40.000 What can you say to Ireland here?

01:49:42.000 What advice do you have?

01:49:43.000 I know we've talked about this on your podcast before, all the craziness of this week, too.

01:49:47.000 So I'm glad somebody asked us recently again, because if I was making the choice today, this year, whether or not to attend college, I wouldn't go for a lot of reasons, mainly because college means almost nothing in the midst of COVID-19.

01:50:00.000 Even all of my friends in the hard sciences, in engineering, in hands-on education where you need to be present in a lab learning about things aren't present in the lab.

01:50:10.000 They're being emailed pictures of cadavers for anatomy class rather than interacting with things in real time in person.

01:50:17.000 So, first of all, I'm very concerned for the future doctors of America.

01:50:20.000 We should not forget that.

01:50:22.000 But, second of all, I say this as someone who loves learning.

01:50:25.000 I love school.

01:50:26.000 I love the pursuit of truth.

01:50:28.000 I love objective knowledge out there.

01:50:31.000 And I love just trying to challenge my way of thinking in as many ways as possible.

01:50:34.000 I was the biggest nerd growing up.

01:50:36.000 I was as an adult in school.

01:50:38.000 I always got made fun of it.

01:50:39.000 But if that's not something that you inherently love, what drives you, what's your passion every day, college will be miserable for you because that's what it's supposed to be all about.

01:50:49.000 If you have a dream that's in a completely different direction, go pursue that.

01:50:53.000 We are so fortunate to live in the United States of America where you don't need a college degree to build a business empire, to go after your dream, and most importantly, just to turn your American dream into a reality.

01:51:05.000 No one else can tell you what that looks like but you.

01:51:08.000 And even if you're receiving lots of pressure from your family, from the people around you, your dream is so much more important than what other people see for your life.

01:51:15.000 Amen.

01:51:15.000 So here's a good test to what to do: take out a piece of paper and write uninterruptedly why you want to go to college.

01:51:23.000 And then on another piece of paper, ask yourself the question, honestly, write to yourself: is it worth borrowing $100,000 to justify the piece of paper you just wrote?

01:51:34.000 Then on another piece of paper, ask yourself the question, what is it you really want to do with your life?

01:51:39.000 Because that's the opportunity to do it.

01:51:40.000 Maybe it's be a mentee under a carpenter.

01:51:43.000 Maybe it's to travel, join the military.

01:51:46.000 Now's the time to do it.

01:51:47.000 As soon as you enter college, there's a reason why the left wants so many people to go to college.

01:51:51.000 It restricts your freedom.

01:51:53.000 As soon as you have financial debt, all of your decisions are made differently, all of them.

01:51:57.000 And so not going to college was the greatest decision for me, but it might be the greatest decision for you.

01:52:03.000 Only you know that.

01:52:04.000 But to say that everyone must go to college and it's a mandatory rite of passage is not the case at all whatsoever.

01:52:09.000 Why are you going to college is the best question that you need to ask yourself.

01:52:13.000 Rob, you have some personal experience with this super quick, then I want to get to this question.

01:52:18.000 Five kids.

01:52:19.000 My two oldest are married.

01:52:21.000 They didn't go to college, although they're brilliant.

01:52:24.000 My middle child is in college.

01:52:27.000 My next child is in college.

01:52:29.000 They're both debt-free.

01:52:30.000 And my youngest, who's 19, though accepted to a number of universities, is working at Turning Point.

01:52:36.000 He's doing a great job too.

01:52:38.000 And he knows the why and what he's doing.

01:52:40.000 And that's the issue.

01:52:41.000 I told him, I don't care what you do.

01:52:43.000 I just, what's the why and what you're doing?

01:52:44.000 And he examined it, took that job.

01:52:46.000 I watched that kid mature faster than any of the others.

01:52:49.000 Bam, like that.

01:52:49.000 And he's debt-free.

01:52:50.000 That's what not going to college can do for you.

01:52:52.000 It can do.

01:52:53.000 Other kids might go in a different direction.

01:52:54.000 My other boy's doing great too.

01:52:56.000 He's at university.

01:52:56.000 He's going to be a Navy SEAL.

01:52:57.000 Navy SEAL, yeah.

01:52:59.000 Midshipman first class.

01:53:00.000 He will be.

01:53:01.000 But compliment to all the parents out there.

01:53:04.000 Be like Rob, where you have an open mind and you don't care about the credential.

01:53:07.000 Because for Rob, you're like, I don't care about the piece of paper.

01:53:10.000 I don't need to tell Sally Sue Marie, my neighbor, that my kid goes to Cornell.

01:53:13.000 Right?

01:53:14.000 A lot of that, though, actually drives it.

01:53:16.000 And you could see it in the stickers that people put on the back of their car, Stanford mom, you know, Princeton mom.

01:53:20.000 And that's fine.

01:53:21.000 You should be proud of it.

01:53:21.000 Parents, are you that insecure that you need your children?

01:53:24.000 You're saying it.

01:53:24.000 I'm not.

01:53:25.000 I'll say it because I'm 56 years old.

01:53:27.000 I'm with you.

01:53:28.000 You're not that insecure.

01:53:30.000 You don't need to do that.

01:53:32.000 Don't put that pressure on your kids to fill vicariously.

01:53:35.000 Yeah, live vicariously through them.

01:53:37.000 You don't have to do it.

01:53:38.000 Let them change the nation and do what God's called them to do.

01:53:41.000 Let them know the why and what they're doing.

01:53:42.000 Avery has emailed us, freedom at charliekirk.com.

01:53:45.000 Charlie, yesterday after the events at the Capitol building, I was feeling extremely stressed, upset, and just isolated.

01:53:50.000 I listened to your podcast.

01:53:51.000 And right now, I'm currently listening today.

01:53:55.000 Yesterday I came out of the political closet to a close liberal friend.

01:53:59.000 I spilled my guts about my feelings and what changed my mind and how alone I feel.

01:54:02.000 We had an excellent debate.

01:54:04.000 We did not agree on a lot of things, but they did not turn their back on me.

01:54:07.000 I've spent years hiding my true thoughts and feelings, trying to avoid the fallout.

01:54:12.000 And I felt so free and firm yesterday.

01:54:14.000 Thank you for lifting us up and giving us excellent advice and guidance.

01:54:18.000 I also told them if they want to get some good information from the other side of the fence, they should check you out.

01:54:22.000 God bless you, Charlie Kirk.

01:54:23.000 Thank you, Avery.

01:54:24.000 That's so kind.

01:54:25.000 And we're going to send you a book.

01:54:28.000 And I want to just say the way you described that felt like I was reading a 1980s someone that was gay coming out of the closet.

01:54:36.000 Yeah.

01:54:36.000 Is what that sounded like.

01:54:37.000 Yeah.

01:54:38.000 And Dave Rubin has made that comparison before.

01:54:40.000 That's not a thing new.

01:54:41.000 God bless you, Avery.

01:54:42.000 That's so kind.

01:54:43.000 Thank you.

01:54:43.000 God bless you.

01:54:44.000 Let's get to some more questions here.

01:54:45.000 Freedom at CharlieKirk.com.

01:54:47.000 Before I do, I want to thank some of our supporters here at charliekirk.com/slash support.

01:54:52.000 Lucy from Alabama, Hoover, Alabama.

01:54:55.000 She's probably upset that I said go buck guys.

01:54:58.000 She's probably really upset about that.

01:54:59.000 You know, so Rob, we were talking about the great tragedy of Nancy Pelosi.

01:55:03.000 Will forever go down that she is going to introduce articles of impeachment during the national championship.

01:55:08.000 That's dope.

01:55:09.000 I'm going to have to have a screen with the national title game going on in the bottom left and the impeachment.

01:55:14.000 And then Jonathan from Manhattan Beach, $10 a month.

01:55:17.000 Thank you so much.

01:55:18.000 Quick question.

01:55:19.000 So many 15 and 16 and 17 are less than 10 years.

01:55:22.000 I love our high schoolers.

01:55:23.000 Just as an aside.

01:55:24.000 They are going to save the country.

01:55:25.000 I'm all chills every time you say that.

01:55:26.000 I just, it's awesome.

01:55:27.000 I'm telling you, they are.

01:55:28.000 Bless you guys.

01:55:29.000 Hello there.

01:55:29.000 I'm a 15-year-old conservative living in Southwest Washington.

01:55:34.000 I'm homeschooled, so I have more spare time than regular school.

01:55:36.000 Your parents are wise.

01:55:38.000 I've been tuning in to many, many streams and learning how I can spread awareness and become more educated in what's going on.

01:55:43.000 Here's the question: My father says that I should probably stop being invested in this.

01:55:46.000 I know as a Christian, I should stop if he really wants me to.

01:55:50.000 But I haven't been interested or motivated in doing something and learning in my entire life.

01:55:54.000 Then, this moment, what should I do?

01:55:55.000 I know this might be a hard question to answer.

01:55:57.000 I apologize for that.

01:55:58.000 Stay strong, y'all.

01:55:59.000 So, Tatiana here is homeschooled, Southwest Washington.

01:56:02.000 She does not want to disobey her parents or dishonor them, but she feels convicted to fight in this.

01:56:07.000 As a Christian, what should she do, Rob?

01:56:08.000 It's a great question.

01:56:09.000 Honor your mother and father.

01:56:10.000 It'll go well with you.

01:56:11.000 You live long on the earth.

01:56:13.000 You appeal to the king.

01:56:14.000 You articulate.

01:56:15.000 If you can't articulate to your parents and seek their approval because they love you and you're laying that out and the case for why you want to do what you want to do, then you're not really prepared to do that with those that would contend with you.

01:56:28.000 So you want to honor them.

01:56:29.000 God put them in your life so that they are that sounding board of process that they want the best for you, but show them why this is something that is good for you and show them that reasoning.

01:56:39.000 And it's how God sharpens you.

01:56:42.000 Don't despise them.

01:56:43.000 I mean, if they're asking you to do something that is immoral or wrong or against God's law, step away.

01:56:48.000 Yeah.

01:56:49.000 I would also say this, though.

01:56:50.000 Ask them a question like, hey, dad, can I show you why I'm so passionate about it?

01:56:54.000 There it is.

01:56:55.000 You know, I like this live stream and I'm learning more about this.

01:56:59.000 And so that would be my recommendation.

01:57:01.000 When my daughter comes to me and says, Daddy, I want to marry this guy.

01:57:04.000 I'm like, check this out.

01:57:05.000 Tell me why.

01:57:07.000 But when my son comes and says, yeah, I'm really sweet on this girl.

01:57:10.000 My assessment of him is, are you prepared to be a provider and a protector?

01:57:14.000 For her, I'm like, is this guy prepared to be a provider and a protector?

01:57:17.000 You got to convince me.

01:57:19.000 I'm the gatekeeper.

01:57:20.000 I'm the judge.

01:57:20.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:57:21.000 You have to be persuasive there.

01:57:22.000 It's really, really well said.

01:57:26.000 So let me go to this one here: freedom at charliekirk.com.

01:57:29.000 Some people are asking, where can I get that hat?

01:57:31.000 Shop TPUSA.com.

01:57:34.000 Shop TPUSA.com.

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01:57:37.000 In fact, I'm going to give away a signed hat right now.

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01:57:42.000 Take out your podcast provider, type in Charlie Kirk Show, hit subscribe.

01:57:46.000 And for those of you on the stream that are on YouTube, if you could do me a favor and just hit that subscription bell, the more people that hit that bell and the more people that hit subscribe, the harder it is for them to censor us.

01:58:00.000 The harder it is for them to kick us off.

01:58:01.000 We have grassroots amounts of people hitting that button.

01:58:04.000 It really is hard.

01:58:05.000 I know that might seem like nothing, but it really, really does help us out.

01:58:08.000 And we're really blessed by that.

01:58:11.000 Someone says, college is not for everyone.

01:58:13.000 Hey, Charlie, I just want to let you know I'm 21 and not attending college.

01:58:16.000 I've worked as a corporate recruiter in our family's business since I was 14.

01:58:19.000 No debt, more freedom to my time, my time.

01:58:22.000 I'm making money.

01:58:22.000 I can still participate in my local turning point USA group, University of Dayton.

01:58:26.000 I would highly recommend this to anyone.

01:58:28.000 Thanks for the show.

01:58:29.000 I watch almost every minute of it.

01:58:30.000 God bless Grace.

01:58:31.000 God bless you, Grace.

01:58:32.000 I get a lot of emails from you.

01:58:33.000 If I haven't sent you a book, I will now.

01:58:36.000 I was saying, though, we are giving away a hat.

01:58:38.000 All you have to do is subscribe and email it to us, freedom at charliekirk.com.

01:58:41.000 I don't know if I was as clear about that.

01:58:43.000 Here's a good question for you, Rob.

01:58:45.000 Sarah Beth.

01:58:46.000 Charlie, I love your podcast and watched you on Facebook almost every day.

01:58:50.000 Thank you.

01:58:51.000 I'm a mom of two young boys.

01:58:52.000 I also homeschool and I'm a Christian.

01:58:54.000 I knew you grew up in Arlington Heights, Illinois.

01:58:55.000 We live in Addison.

01:58:57.000 Can you please recommend a church in this area that preaches the uncompromising word of God?

01:59:01.000 That's going to require some research.

01:59:02.000 No, I'm going to answer it from a local, but I want you to answer it more generally because the question is for all the other viewers.

01:59:08.000 Sure.

01:59:08.000 So bear with me for a sec.

01:59:09.000 A church that does not teach critical race theory or has sold out the BLM re-education that has crept into churches due to the events of the last year. 0.88

01:59:16.000 Love your show, Sarah Beth.

01:59:18.000 First of all, Sarah, thank you for that.

01:59:20.000 I'm going to have to see kind of where the church I grew up in, Harvest Bible Chapel, is. 0.67

01:59:25.000 I could tell you that Willow Creek has gone full BLM.

01:59:29.000 And I don't know if there's a Calvary out in Chicago where their stance is.

01:59:33.000 But Rob, can you talk more broadly about where people should make their church decisions when it comes to these sorts of issues, what they should look for in a church, how they should do that?

01:59:43.000 We're getting a lot of questions about that.

01:59:44.000 Yeah.

01:59:45.000 So in a constitutional republic, and this is what we're doing, a moral people can govern a republic.

01:59:50.000 The church is critical.

01:59:52.000 It's a critical component.

01:59:53.000 That's why they gave us the First Amendment.

01:59:54.000 We're the counselors to the king, we the people.

01:59:56.000 So churches have to be engaged in politics, which is the highest form of community because it includes morality and sociability.

02:00:02.000 That's what Aristotle said.

02:00:04.000 So if your church is not political, meaning it's not educating its congregation on what it means to be an operating citizen in the United States of America and how to deal with issues, avoid the church.

02:00:16.000 If your church isn't open right now because of this nonsense of the virus, avoid that church.

02:00:23.000 Find another one.

02:00:24.000 Now, this is a refiner's fire.

02:00:26.000 A lot of churches are dissipating.

02:00:28.000 We're watching Russell Moore.

02:00:29.000 Did you see the latest with that?

02:00:30.000 It's frustrating.

02:00:32.000 So I would just encourage all of you, find churches that are stepping into the ecclesia, the public square.

02:00:38.000 Secondly, find a church that is open and doesn't buy in to this game.

02:00:45.000 Well, and I want to add into what Rob said.

02:00:47.000 Verse by verse, chapter by chapter, book by book.

02:00:49.000 I would say expository teaching, certainly.

02:00:52.000 And it's one thing to be involved in the ecclesia, but also make sure they're doing it correctly.

02:00:57.000 Yeah.

02:00:57.000 Because some churches have become hyper-political recently, but it would be better if they actually didn't.

02:01:03.000 You're examining the ecclesia based on the scriptures themselves, not based on your preferences and what critical race theory.

02:01:10.000 That's exactly right.

02:01:12.000 So the center theme of the church has to be the Bible itself.

02:01:15.000 Christ, the inerrancy of scripture, the deity of Christ, the Trinity.

02:01:18.000 Those are non-negotiables in seeking out a church.

02:01:22.000 And that good Bible teaching, you're going verse by verse, chapter by chapter, book by book.

02:01:25.000 It's the whole council of God's word.

02:01:28.000 You want the entire council of God's word because the best illustration for the scriptures is the scriptures themselves.

02:01:34.000 And it speaks to every issue that we face as a nation and as a people.

02:01:38.000 It talks on immigration.

02:01:39.000 It talks on the economy.

02:01:40.000 It talks on capitalism.

02:01:41.000 It talks about socialism.

02:01:42.000 It talks about representative government.

02:01:45.000 You just got to search it and see it.

02:01:47.000 So find a church that does that.

02:01:49.000 Few, but there'll be more.

02:01:50.000 We're working on it.

02:01:52.000 That's a great answer.

02:01:53.000 Someone says this.

02:01:54.000 It's a little bit of critical to me, and that's okay.

02:01:56.000 I've been loyal to you, Charlie.

02:01:58.000 God bless you.

02:01:58.000 Thank you.

02:01:59.000 You're being disingenuous when you gaslight and highlight rhetorical questions from Chuck Schumer, such as, quote, I'm surprised this is happening.

02:02:06.000 Most of us know the drill here.

02:02:08.000 Chuck is not surprised.

02:02:09.000 Please don't ask the question or answer it.

02:02:12.000 It wastes our time.

02:02:13.000 Okay.

02:02:14.000 A better question is: if Sidney Powell, Rudy Giuliani, Flynn, General McInerney said they have evidence and it's just told us to wait for it, what are your comments on them?

02:02:25.000 Crickets.

02:02:26.000 Flynn, at least, was the top national security advisor, promoted by Obama twice, told us they had servers in Frankfurt.

02:02:32.000 What the heck?

02:02:33.000 No comment.

02:02:34.000 Well, look, I would love to see some of this evidence.

02:02:37.000 I'm open-minded to it.

02:02:39.000 I went sentence by sentence of this Italian thing, and I said, in David Hume-inspired skepticism, show me the evidence. 0.99

02:02:49.000 I looked at the affidavits and all this stuff.

02:02:51.000 We'll be open-minded.

02:02:52.000 However, I have not seen any evidence that servers were obtained in Frankfurt.

02:02:57.000 I've heard people say that, but show me the evidence.

02:02:59.000 That's all I'm saying.

02:03:00.000 So I'm happy to entertain anything.

02:03:02.000 For example, we got 200 emails yesterday saying that Mike Pence was going to be shot for treason at Guantamano Bay.

02:03:10.000 That is not true.

02:03:11.000 You know, you just have to kind of go through things and say things.

02:03:14.000 And the president was headed to Texas.

02:03:16.000 Yeah, he did not go to Texas.

02:03:17.000 Yeah, we got that one.

02:03:18.000 So we got that one.

02:03:19.000 Okay, let's go to the next.

02:03:21.000 I don't want to only say positive.

02:03:22.000 And by the way, God bless you.

02:03:23.000 Thank you for that question.

02:03:25.000 And I hope you keep listening.

02:03:26.000 I know there's a lot of people that are frustrated, and I'm not above criticism.

02:03:29.000 I mean that.

02:03:30.000 You aren't.

02:03:31.000 You take it.

02:03:31.000 Email it to me and I'll self-correct if that's there.

02:03:34.000 Okay.

02:03:36.000 This is an email.

02:03:37.000 I'm very concerned.

02:03:38.000 Hello, I'm 23 years old and I've grown really concerned about the future of the country.

02:03:41.000 You should be.

02:03:42.000 It seems as though the checks and balances that our government is based on is no longer applicable.

02:03:47.000 Is this a reasonable concern?

02:03:48.000 Also, it seems as though the Democrats are unified, making them powerful and dangerous.

02:03:53.000 The one thing that can stop them unilaterally controlling our country is the principle of voting.

02:03:57.000 With half the country losing faith in all voting, what can we possibly do?

02:04:01.000 Well, Rob, walk us through what happened in California.

02:04:04.000 People lost faith in all elections, but you guys decided to do the opposite in California.

02:04:08.000 You tried to harvest ballots legally yourself, right?

02:04:11.000 Yeah, churches are harvesting the ballots.

02:04:13.000 The Democrats laid it out.

02:04:14.000 We got beat the first time like a rented mule.

02:04:17.000 And then we started to have the churches collect the ballots just like they would allow everyone else to collect them.

02:04:22.000 So we played by their rules and we started to win some.

02:04:26.000 And also, people signed up to be election judges.

02:04:29.000 They decided to also sign up through ballot supervisors, all those sorts of things, right?

02:04:34.000 And California is still a Democrat state, but there are three less Democrat Congress people now than there were.

02:04:39.000 Very, very big.

02:04:41.000 Yeah, and I ran for office.

02:04:42.000 I didn't know my elbow from my earlobe when I first ran.

02:04:45.000 And I got beat in the general election.

02:04:48.000 I won the primary against my own party that spent a million dollars against me in the primary.

02:04:51.000 So even the Republican Party was messed up.

02:04:53.000 But I did win the mayor spot by 52 votes and then later by thousands.

02:04:56.000 So you can do this.

02:04:58.000 Yeah, the first time, 52 votes.

02:04:59.000 You know what you call somebody who wins by 52 votes?

02:05:01.000 The winner.

02:05:02.000 That's right.

02:05:03.000 All right, here we go.

02:05:04.000 Hello, sir.

02:05:04.000 I'm a 15-year-old Christian conservative living in southeastern Iowa.

02:05:08.000 He's not giving up.

02:05:09.000 I know my age.

02:05:10.000 I know that many my age despise me precisely because of my beliefs.

02:05:14.000 What do I say to combat this hate?

02:05:16.000 I'm told to be polite and do my best.

02:05:18.000 I suppose my homeschooling assists me a bit.

02:05:20.000 However, in online circles, I'm really treated poorly.

02:05:23.000 Thank you.

02:05:23.000 Isabel, can you help?

02:05:25.000 People say things behind the cover of a screen that they would never say to your face.

02:05:30.000 And that's wildly unfortunate, but that's becoming more and more common as more of our lives are moved to an online platform.

02:05:37.000 We're seeing everything, so many things being put through a screen now because of COVID-19.

02:05:43.000 Our school, our church, our interactions with our friends, our interactions with our family members.

02:05:47.000 And so that divisive rhetoric is just continuing to heat up more and more and more.

02:05:51.000 And people are saying worse things.

02:05:53.000 That's wildly unfortunate, but that doesn't mean you have to fall into the same trap.

02:05:58.000 And I think it's very easy to play the game of the other side.

02:06:01.000 If you can't beat them, join them, sort of a mentality.

02:06:04.000 But if you continue to treat others with kindness and respect and patience more than anything else, not only will you have an opportunity to gain their respect, but more importantly, you'll have a chance to change their mind.

02:06:17.000 And I think we discount that a lot.

02:06:18.000 When we come to political divisiveness, we say we're never going to agree.

02:06:22.000 We never have a chance to change anyone's mind.

02:06:23.000 I'm in this camp.

02:06:24.000 You're in that camp.

02:06:25.000 That is not true.

02:06:26.000 And the people I have been the most effective with in changing their mind and getting them to accept a new way of thinking has always been through patience, kindness, and respect.

02:06:34.000 Amen.

02:06:35.000 That's so well put.

02:06:37.000 Anything to add to that?

02:06:39.000 Being reviled, revile not.

02:06:41.000 You know, don't return what you've received.

02:06:45.000 And I already said it.

02:06:47.000 The way you do it, they just attack you.

02:06:50.000 They do the character assassination or they attempt to attack you.

02:06:54.000 You don't deal with that.

02:06:55.000 You don't respond in the same way.

02:06:56.000 Just deal with the facts.

02:06:57.000 Amen.

02:06:58.000 So we have some new watchers and some new viewers here.

02:07:01.000 Do we have a clipping ability really quick?

02:07:06.000 Can I play that?

02:07:07.000 Can we play that video in the bottom right again that we've been playing of the police letting people in?

02:07:11.000 I just think it's important.

02:07:12.000 People are coming in and out.

02:07:14.000 And so let's play this on the button.

02:07:19.000 Can you just put it on the bottom third?

02:07:20.000 Thank you.

02:07:21.000 Play tape.

02:07:22.000 So as you see here, there are March participants here that were let in.

02:07:27.000 Those doors could be locked, as you can see on the side there.

02:07:30.000 Those are locked.

02:07:31.000 So those could have been locked.

02:07:32.000 So somebody, look, there's someone holding the door.

02:07:34.000 Oh, my goodness, go back.

02:07:36.000 There is.

02:07:37.000 There's someone holding the door.

02:07:38.000 I just saw that.

02:07:38.000 Go back, go back, go back, go back.

02:07:40.000 Yeah.

02:07:42.000 By the way, we have the best team ever here on the Charlie Kirk show.

02:07:44.000 Can you go slower or no?

02:07:47.000 Yeah, go.

02:07:48.000 Oh, yeah, okay.

02:07:49.000 No, go play it, and then I'll tell you when to pause it in real time.

02:07:55.000 Thank you guys.

02:07:55.000 It's okay.

02:07:57.000 We have the best clipping team out there.

02:07:58.000 This stuff's not easy technically to do two screens and all this and no sleep.

02:08:02.000 Hold on.

02:08:03.000 There's someone.

02:08:04.000 You see their hand holding the door.

02:08:05.000 Hold on.

02:08:06.000 That guy right there.

02:08:07.000 That is a police officer holding the door open.

02:08:10.000 See, I have a hard time.

02:08:12.000 Not just letting them in, but saying, please, welcome.

02:08:16.000 It's the people's house.

02:08:17.000 Did we see that before, Connor?

02:08:19.000 That's new, right?

02:08:20.000 That's new.

02:08:21.000 Charlie, investigative.

02:08:24.000 Someone says, I don't think that's a cop.

02:08:27.000 I don't know.

02:08:28.000 He's dressed like the other cops.

02:08:30.000 So play it.

02:08:31.000 Play it.

02:08:33.000 And then watch what the other cops look like.

02:08:36.000 Yeah, as we enter the doorway here.

02:08:38.000 He looks like a cop.

02:08:40.000 So now that cop's in all black with a hat.

02:08:42.000 Now look what the other cops look like.

02:08:44.000 Pretty similar.

02:08:47.000 So.

02:08:48.000 Could be.

02:08:49.000 Someone's holding the door that looks exactly like that.

02:08:51.000 That guy looks like, I don't know who that is either.

02:08:52.000 A door that opens from the inside.

02:08:54.000 Yeah, which could have been locked.

02:08:56.000 So we will see.

02:08:58.000 We'll see there.

02:08:59.000 People are emailing us a lot about this.

02:09:01.000 I want to make sure I covered it.

02:09:02.000 Wouldn't it be strange to let people in and then gas them?

02:09:07.000 Right.

02:09:07.000 The point was to prevent people from getting into the building to begin with.

02:09:10.000 I'm not sure why doors were being held open for people to peacefully.

02:09:15.000 Well, at least let them in at the very, very least.

02:09:17.000 So let's get to some more questions here.

02:09:19.000 Freedom at charliekirk.com.

02:09:20.000 Thank you for pulling that up, guys.

02:09:22.000 Charlie, huge fan of your show.

02:09:23.000 Good friends with Jeff.

02:09:25.000 I won't say the last name.

02:09:26.000 He talks very highly of you.

02:09:27.000 Question: If we wanted a landslide and yet all the evidence of fraud wasn't looked at, what stops the Democrats from doing the same thing in the future they did in previous election?

02:09:35.000 Won't it be easier for them in four years to cheat because of total government control?

02:09:39.000 Keep up the good fight, chance.

02:09:41.000 Thank you.

02:09:42.000 Freedom at CharlieKirk.com.

02:09:43.000 That email.

02:09:44.000 We have to have a revolution to make every election like Florida across the country.

02:09:49.000 If you like, no one is saying that Florida was stolen.

02:09:52.000 Everyone says that that was a pure election and Trump won a battleground state by 400,000 votes.

02:09:57.000 Let's be solution-oriented, everybody.

02:09:59.000 Solution orientation.

02:10:00.000 Let's think creative. 0.99

02:10:00.000 That's what makes us Americans and not French, okay? 0.99

02:10:04.000 We don't complain for a living, we solve for a living. 0.89

02:10:06.000 That's what we do. 1.00

02:10:07.000 Seriously, all the French do is complain all day long. 1.00

02:10:10.000 They're professional complainers and they never get anything substantive done. 1.00

02:10:13.000 We're Americans, so we find a problem.

02:10:16.000 We look at it.

02:10:16.000 How do I solve it?

02:10:17.000 How do I think entrepreneurially about this?

02:10:19.000 Okay, Ron DeSantis has got it figured out.

02:10:21.000 Brian Kemp, go learn from him, right?

02:10:23.000 But let's be positive about things.

02:10:25.000 Oh, it's doom and gloom.

02:10:26.000 We're never going to win anything again.

02:10:27.000 Okay, again, there's a whole country dedicated to that philosophy, and it's not here.

02:10:31.000 And you're going to say, Yeah, those four counties, yeah, those four cities.

02:10:33.000 They had Dade County, they've got the same county anywhere.

02:10:39.000 They used the dot, but they but they put it out and all of their some people are emailing us saying that may be a cop, it might not be a cop.

02:10:47.000 So, for those of you watching the live stream from Media Matters, prove us otherwise.

02:10:51.000 Okay, it could be.

02:10:51.000 The point is that that is a door that locked in from the inside that was open.

02:10:55.000 That we know for true, for sure.

02:10:57.000 Okay, let's get to another question here.

02:10:59.000 Um, conservative mother.

02:11:01.000 It's a good question here, uh, because you have some grandkids that are how old?

02:11:04.000 Five, six, oh, yeah, six, it's right around here.

02:11:07.000 Three, hey, Charlie, how do I explain to my nine-year-old daughter what's going on?

02:11:10.000 She goes, she goes back to school on Monday, and I'm sure something will be said.

02:11:14.000 Luckily, I live in a conservative town, but it's a public school.

02:11:16.000 Thank you.

02:11:16.000 That's a good question for moms out there with young kids.

02:11:18.000 How do they unpack all this?

02:11:20.000 So, my daughter walked my grandson through it.

02:11:23.000 He was devastated.

02:11:24.000 He'd been praying and he wanted all these things.

02:11:26.000 And to give a perspective, to allow them to see that, you know, God's still in control.

02:11:31.000 This is a season that we're learning something, and we need to see what it is He's wanting to show us.

02:11:37.000 Recalibrating, giving them a perspective to realize that God moves in the affairs of men, and to give them a grounding so they don't feel as though someone's movement or someone's efforts is going to somehow devastate your life.

02:11:49.000 They're not in control of your life.

02:11:50.000 God is sovereign, He's got you.

02:11:51.000 Trust Him.

02:11:53.000 Amen.

02:11:54.000 So, let's get this clip right here that just got sent to us.

02:11:58.000 Let's trust you guys are going to see it as I see it as we put it up here.

02:12:01.000 Do we have some breaking news from Senator Joe Manchin breaking?

02:12:05.000 Senator Joe Manchin said he will absolutely oppose $2,000 payments to Americans, denying hopes for another spending bill.

02:12:13.000 In a stunning turn of events, a Democrat from West Virginia is more fiscally conservative than most Republicans.

02:12:20.000 Shocking.

02:12:21.000 Unbelievable.

02:12:22.000 Okay, here we go.

02:12:23.000 Sam here.

02:12:24.000 Hey, Charlie, I'm 14 years old from St. Charles, Illinois.

02:12:26.000 Do you guys see a pattern here for all these teens?

02:12:29.000 These teenagers that are standing.

02:12:31.000 We owe it to these kids to leave them a better country, everybody, and to keep fighting.

02:12:35.000 You owe it to these teenagers.

02:12:37.000 I'm with you.

02:12:37.000 Right?

02:12:38.000 It's awesome.

02:12:39.000 From St. Charles, Illinois.

02:12:41.000 And I have a few questions.

02:12:42.000 How would I be able to work for Turning Point and what age is required?

02:12:45.000 I love it.

02:12:46.000 I do want to do it, I just love it.

02:12:48.000 And I think it's something that I'd strive to do.

02:12:49.000 And thanks, my man.

02:12:50.000 Why don't you give a plug to how to start a chapter, Isabel?

02:12:52.000 Well, starting a chapter is a great place to start.

02:12:54.000 And we do have part-time staff members across the country acting as campus coordinators, which might be the best solution for you as you get out of high school and into college.

02:13:04.000 That's one way to join our team.

02:13:05.000 If you go to tpusa.com/slash get involved, someone from our team can help you to find out if there's already a chapter at your school and how to start one.

02:13:14.000 tpusa.com slash get involved.

02:13:16.000 And if you want this beautiful gear, it's shop tpusa.com.

02:13:21.000 Are we able to put up that clip, Connor, that I sent you right in there?

02:13:25.000 I have not seen this clip yet, so you guys are all going to be seeing it as I see it and kind of see how we unpackage and analyze.

02:13:31.000 It's new evidence according to new video proves that Antifa responsible for capital breach.

02:13:37.000 Okay, we'll watch the video and we'll look at this through our best David Hume analyzing data.

02:13:42.000 Here we go.

02:13:43.000 Being skeptical, show us the evidence and stripping ourselves of any bias, right?

02:13:47.000 I'm ready.

02:13:48.000 That's what we do.

02:13:49.000 Okay, and the audio, I am told, is important.

02:13:53.000 The crowd says, quote, stop Antifa.

02:13:56.000 So Trump person taps lightly, then stops, then big Trump guy stops in to stop.

02:14:01.000 Again, we'll look at this.

02:14:02.000 Our team is putting that together.

02:14:03.000 In the meantime, Morgan says, I'm 14 years old.

02:14:08.000 In the next election, I will be able to vote.

02:14:10.000 Who do you think will be the top runner for conservatives?

02:14:12.000 And what do you think the focus should be?

02:14:13.000 Thank you.

02:14:14.000 I'll enjoy the show.

02:14:15.000 Isabel will be.

02:14:16.000 I'm actually not old enough.

02:14:17.000 Oh, I want you to be older.

02:14:18.000 2032, I'll be old.

02:14:20.000 You're rocking.

02:14:22.000 I will say this: it doesn't matter.

02:14:25.000 What does matter is the ideas and what they stand for?

02:14:28.000 Yep.

02:14:29.000 And that the stopping the endless wars MAGA doctrine agenda continues on.

02:14:35.000 That's really what matters the most: restricting immigration, fighting for the American worker, challenging entrenched corporate interests, and unapologetically declaring our rights come from God, not from government.

02:14:47.000 Amen.

02:14:48.000 You were talking about California, a state that has been inundated by secular progressive liberalism.

02:14:54.000 You walk in to your central committee as a Republican and you offer to volunteer.

02:15:00.000 Within one election cycle, you will be sitting on that board.

02:15:05.000 You'll be one of the folks that will be able to drive the platform for that area.

02:15:10.000 And then within a short amount of time, you'll be at the capital of Sacramento with all Republicans contending for the platform of the California Republican Party.

02:15:19.000 So educate yourself, step in and volunteer.

02:15:21.000 Next thing you know, you're going to be driving the narrative.

02:15:23.000 Amen.

02:15:24.000 And right now, we need more activism than ever before.

02:15:28.000 It's really important.

02:15:29.000 Let me get to this question here: freedom at charliekirk.com.

02:15:33.000 Hi, Charlie.

02:15:33.000 I'm a Buddhist follower who has been taking all the information of our election system for the past year and a half.

02:15:37.000 God bless you.

02:15:38.000 Thank you for watching.

02:15:39.000 I try to take in all of the independent media I can.

02:15:42.000 After all podcasts and video I've watched or listened to, I believe that the government could have avoided attention if they just listened to the people.

02:15:47.000 I agree with that.

02:15:48.000 I tell all my liberal friends if there is evidence so refutable, why do they not just allow us to get the court cases through?

02:15:53.000 Blaine, you bring a great point, and thank you for listening.

02:15:55.000 And we have people from all religions and backgrounds that watch this program.

02:15:58.000 So thank you for that.

02:15:59.000 It's called America.

02:16:00.000 Yeah.

02:16:00.000 It's the beauty of our country.

02:16:01.000 So thank you for that.

02:16:03.000 I completely and totally agree that if the Supreme Court would have taken up one of these cases, a lot of this pent-up frustration, I think, would have been diffused.

02:16:10.000 Yeah, they just wanted to be heard.

02:16:12.000 That's it.

02:16:13.000 They just wanted to be heard.

02:16:14.000 They wanted to feel as if the system was not just trying to have trapdoor after trapdoor designed against them.

02:16:20.000 Right?

02:16:21.000 Let's go to it here.

02:16:22.000 Hey, guys, I'm 15 years old.

02:16:23.000 I go to public school.

02:16:24.000 A lot of my friends have dropped me and hate me for being conservative and Catholic.

02:16:28.000 One time I walked into school with a Catholic school sweatshirt and someone called me white privileged.

02:16:32.000 I don't know what to do when these people say anything.

02:16:34.000 Any advice?

02:16:35.000 Are you guys seeing a pattern here?

02:16:36.000 Yeah.

02:16:36.000 What's happening in the country?

02:16:38.000 Isabel.

02:16:38.000 I grew up in the Catholic Church.

02:16:40.000 I went to Catholic high school. 0.99

02:16:41.000 To suggest that being Catholic automatically means that you're white is the most ignorant argument I've heard all day. 0.97

02:16:48.000 The Catholic Church is the largest institution in the world. 0.99

02:16:51.000 So to suggest that everyone in the world is white because they happen to celebrate a particular religion is lazy.

02:16:58.000 It's sloppy and frankly just speaks to the tactics of the left, making everything about race and calling literally everything racist.

02:17:05.000 Unfortunately, it's not surprising.

02:17:07.000 So I wish that it was, but that is the playbook that we're seeing from the left lately: that they go after you guys for anything about yourself, what you're wearing, who you associate with, who you worship, and automatically call you a white supremacist, Nazi racist because of that. 0.90

02:17:20.000 Hang in there.

02:17:21.000 You're not the only one experiencing that.

02:17:23.000 I know how hard that can be.

02:17:24.000 Trust me.

02:17:25.000 Yesterday, I was called white power Barbie.

02:17:28.000 So, you know, we get these things all the time, professionally for a living.

02:17:31.000 But just remember that you're not alone and that there are people out there who support you, who've got your back, and who believe in the same things that you do.

02:17:38.000 Two enthusiastic thumbs up.

02:17:39.000 That was awesome.

02:17:41.000 Very good.

02:17:42.000 Okay, let's get to some more questions here.

02:17:43.000 Freedom at CharlieKirk.com.

02:17:45.000 Okay, do we have this video here?

02:17:47.000 So as this video is going on, they are saying F Antifa.

02:17:50.000 I'm not going to air that.

02:17:51.000 We don't do that on this program.

02:17:53.000 But just watch this video.

02:17:54.000 That's what people are chanting while this is happening.

02:17:56.000 Play tape.

02:17:59.000 So it looks as if those guys do not look like Trump supporters, bashing, bashing, and they're saying F Antifa.

02:18:07.000 Just look at the way he's treating that flag.

02:18:08.000 That does not look okay.

02:18:11.000 All right, so let me just tell you right now, the way that they are acting and gesturing does not strike me like Trump supporters.

02:18:19.000 No.

02:18:19.000 Does it?

02:18:20.000 I've never seen a conservative treat the flag that way. 0.98

02:18:22.000 All black, just the manners that they are bashing, they look like they are trying to cause trouble. 0.97

02:18:31.000 And those guys, I think, are trying to get in the way of them. 1.00

02:18:33.000 And he throws them out of the way.

02:18:35.000 A lot of people watching, a lot of people telling them to stop.

02:18:38.000 He came prepared with weapons, whoever this guy is.

02:18:40.000 Looks like a metal pipe of something.

02:18:41.000 And look, oh, wow.

02:18:42.000 A Trump supporter tries to stop him.

02:18:44.000 Wow.

02:18:45.000 A Trump supporter.

02:18:45.000 And they say, get out of the way.

02:18:46.000 A Trump supporter tries to stop them, trying to say, this is not true.

02:18:50.000 This is not true.

02:18:51.000 Stop it.

02:18:51.000 Look, that's a Trump supporter in real time screaming at him, saying, stop it.

02:18:56.000 And he puts his arms on him, telling him to stop, saying, what are you doing?

02:18:59.000 What are you doing?

02:19:00.000 Stop it.

02:19:01.000 This other guy's getting right in his face.

02:19:03.000 A confrontation ensues. 0.98

02:19:04.000 These two black guys are not part of the Trump crowd at all. 0.98

02:19:10.000 And speaking black people. 0.98

02:19:11.000 And now they start chanting. 0.95

02:19:12.000 All these people start chanting F Antifa, F Antifa, F Antifa.

02:19:19.000 And so it looks like this continues on.

02:19:21.000 Some people thought they were saying, stop Antifa.

02:19:23.000 Let's F Antifa, stop Antifa.

02:19:25.000 We don't air swear words on this program.

02:19:27.000 This person then flicks off the entire crowd.

02:19:31.000 Yeah.

02:19:32.000 Wow.

02:19:33.000 Doesn't look like they're with them.

02:19:36.000 So let's play that again, please.

02:19:43.000 Bashing windows, all black.

02:19:47.000 And pause.

02:19:49.000 Pause.

02:19:50.000 Is anyone else in the Trump crowd wearing all black like that except that guy with the goggles?

02:19:55.000 You could stop.

02:19:56.000 You could see who the agitator.

02:19:57.000 Okay.

02:19:58.000 Sorry.

02:19:58.000 Can you go back?

02:20:00.000 Just play it.

02:20:00.000 If you look at the whole crowd span, you can see who the agitators are and who the Trump patriots are and like who the actual peaceful guys are.

02:20:08.000 Those guys wearing those riot, those kind of, those snowboarding goggles, you see those snowboarding goggles right near the kind of center right of that whole thing?

02:20:16.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:20:17.000 Those guys are there up to no good.

02:20:19.000 These other guys that have these just Trump hats behind, they're there with flags.

02:20:23.000 They're like, wait, what is going on here?

02:20:25.000 Right?

02:20:25.000 You can see literal exclamations of shock on people's faces throughout the crowd, too.

02:20:30.000 They do not know what's going on here.

02:20:32.000 The mannerisms and how they are striking this door and how they are doing it looks exactly how Antifa acted in Portland and Seattle.

02:20:40.000 Would you agree, Rob?

02:20:41.000 I agree.

02:20:42.000 And the majority of the crowd, it doesn't look like they're storming the Bastille.

02:20:46.000 You got two people.

02:20:47.000 Right.

02:20:49.000 And so.

02:20:49.000 No consensus.

02:20:50.000 And then importantly, this other guy comes in and puts his body between the building and these agitators.

02:20:57.000 And it almost seems as though he's consoling him, like trying to, hey, this isn't right.

02:21:04.000 Trying to get it.

02:21:05.000 You won't see this on cable news, I guarantee you.

02:21:08.000 That right there with the flag totally looks Antifa.

02:21:11.000 I just got to say.

02:21:12.000 It reminds me of Portland.

02:21:15.000 And so let's do play the audio at the end.

02:21:17.000 I'm told it says stop Antifa, stop Antifa, if we can.

02:21:22.000 And so I'm going to give a disclaimer that there might be a swear word for, I don't, I hate doing this if there's a swear word.

02:21:27.000 Everyone says that the audio is dramatic.

02:21:29.000 So let's do that, please, with the audio.

02:21:31.000 So it's my disclaimer, there might be a swear word here.

02:21:34.000 I don't with all the teenagers out there.

02:21:36.000 Not that you're not hearing it at high school.

02:21:39.000 That's true.

02:21:43.000 That is not how Trump supporters act.

02:21:46.000 Look at that.

02:21:47.000 That looks like professional Antifa.

02:21:51.000 You see all these people looking around saying, what's going on?

02:21:54.000 What's going on?

02:21:54.000 They're pointing at these people, too.

02:22:10.000 Right here.

02:22:13.000 Someone steps in, they put their body between.

02:22:29.000 So he's telling them to stop right there.

02:22:32.000 We need to get that guy out of the interview.

02:22:34.000 The guy with the hat.

02:22:35.000 Find that guy with the hat.

02:22:37.000 Internet, find him.

02:22:38.000 With the backpack.

02:22:39.000 Seriously, that guy needs to be found.

02:22:41.000 He's stopping these guys right there, telling them to stop, telling them to calm down.

02:22:45.000 If that's you, send us a picture of yourself.

02:22:47.000 Show us your gear.

02:22:48.000 Let's hear your story.

02:22:52.000 Yeah, they're saying F Antifa.

02:23:00.000 They are saying F Antifa, but that's enough.

02:23:04.000 Thank you.

02:23:06.000 But that's pretty chilling.

02:23:09.000 Gave me chills.

02:23:11.000 That does not look like the narrative that we have been told at all.

02:23:15.000 No.

02:23:16.000 It looks like Trump supporters trying to stop them from entering into the building.

02:23:20.000 Not even that they weren't affiliated with them, but actively trying to stop the agitators trying to enter the building, too.

02:23:26.000 That's an important facet.

02:23:28.000 I think they were saying F Antifa or Stop Antifa.

02:23:30.000 It's actually irrelevant.

02:23:31.000 I'm just trying not to, you know.

02:23:32.000 I got you.

02:23:33.000 But the point is that they're both saying, stop it.

02:23:38.000 Yes.

02:23:39.000 So let's get to some questions here.

02:23:41.000 Freedom at CharlieKirk.com.

02:23:42.000 Freedom at CharlieKirk.com.

02:23:45.000 There you go.

02:23:46.000 This is from the nation.

02:23:48.000 We've got an Estonian watcher or listener.

02:23:52.000 Hi, Charlie.

02:23:53.000 I'm Martin17 sending lots of support from the lovely nation of Estonia.

02:23:58.000 It's a Baltic state, right?

02:24:00.000 So it goes Finland.

02:24:01.000 Oh, man.

02:24:02.000 So it goes Finland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania.

02:24:05.000 Someone fact-check me on that.

02:24:06.000 I'm fact-checking.

02:24:07.000 Finland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania.

02:24:10.000 Is that right?

02:24:10.000 I have a dear friend whose daughter dances for either the Estonian or Lithuanian.

02:24:15.000 How good is my geography?

02:24:16.000 Oh, well done, Charlie.

02:24:18.000 That's good.

02:24:19.000 I know my post-Soviet Baltic geography better than most. 0.91

02:24:23.000 Well done. 0.95

02:24:24.000 Well done.

02:24:24.000 My question is, what can I as a middle-class student from Europe do to help you?

02:24:28.000 Why aren't you still using voter ID in the United States?

02:24:31.000 That's a great question. 1.00

02:24:32.000 Coming from a previously Soviet. 0.97

02:24:34.000 By the way, our Minister of Finance stands with the American people. 0.97

02:24:37.000 Look, this is my piece of advice to every person watching around the world.

02:24:41.000 Let your voice be heard.

02:24:42.000 Tell people how you feel.

02:24:43.000 Do it so thoughtfully and rationally.

02:24:45.000 And the more you learn, the more you'll know how to act.

02:24:48.000 You'll be able to respond to all their arguments.

02:24:50.000 You'll know what they say before they say it.

02:24:52.000 It's so critically important.

02:24:53.000 It really, really is.

02:24:54.000 Yeah, exactly.

02:24:56.000 Have you ever spent time in Estonia?

02:24:57.000 You've been to Russia.

02:24:58.000 I've been to Russia.

02:24:59.000 I've been to the Ukraine, but I haven't been to Estonia or Latvia or Lithuania.

02:25:03.000 All of it.

02:25:03.000 Continue to email us your questions, freedom at charliekirk.com.

02:25:07.000 Also, I want to thank our supporters here at charliekirk.com slash support.

02:25:12.000 We've been doing this live stream longer than usual because I can feel the tension in the country.

02:25:17.000 And I just want to help give people answers and some comfort.

02:25:19.000 Charlie, people need this.

02:25:20.000 I've received so many texts of folks that are so appreciative of this because there's clarity.

02:25:24.000 I mean, you're not out there reacting to every single Instagram post that has some nut putting out some conspiracy idea.

02:25:33.000 You're digging into it.

02:25:34.000 You're showing them stuff, and it's so helpful.

02:25:36.000 Yeah.

02:25:37.000 You have no idea.

02:25:38.000 So there are more people asking us to play that video again, and we are going to in just a second.

02:25:43.000 But I want to get to this question here because I think that video in some ways is a narrative game changer, to be honest with you.

02:25:49.000 It is.

02:25:49.000 Hi, Mr. Kirk.

02:25:50.000 I'm a 21-year-old from Connecticut.

02:25:52.000 I'm trying to avoid college while looking for a career in tech.

02:25:55.000 But it seems every job requires either college degree or prior experience.

02:25:59.000 And every internship is only for college students.

02:26:01.000 As someone who found his career without college, do you have any advice on what I could do?

02:26:05.000 Do I apply to these jobs regardless?

02:26:07.000 How do I do this?

02:26:08.000 Rob, do you want to weigh in on this a little bit?

02:26:09.000 Well, I love what you said.

02:26:10.000 You go to a person, say, I'll work for you.

02:26:12.000 Yep.

02:26:13.000 Give them that narrative because that is a great.

02:26:15.000 So, yeah, look, here, I could tell you this from personal experience.

02:26:19.000 So, Edwin, thank you for your question.

02:26:21.000 In Connecticut, you had a tough battle there.

02:26:22.000 I could tell you that much.

02:26:23.000 Find someone who is in this field you want to get into.

02:26:27.000 Yep.

02:26:28.000 Go to them and say, I will do anything you ask of me for free, and I want to just learn everything I possibly can from you.

02:26:34.000 You might say, how do I find that person?

02:26:37.000 Get scrappy, get hustle, and get creative is what I'm trying to say.

02:26:41.000 Get scrappy, hustle, and get creative.

02:26:44.000 Find that person and just say, I'll work for free.

02:26:47.000 I'll do anything you ask of me, right?

02:26:49.000 There's a friend of mine whose name will remain anonymous who dropped out of high school at 15 years of age, started one of the largest businesses in the country and is worth quite a bit of money.

02:27:00.000 And his comment was, no man would stand in the way of me pursuing what it was I wanted to do.

02:27:05.000 I'd just go around him.

02:27:06.000 I'd figure out how to do it.

02:27:08.000 And those folks aren't going to be roadblocks.

02:27:10.000 You need to be creative.

02:27:11.000 And when he would sit down and describe without a high school education, you know, raised in West Texas, and to see what he did, going up against some of the greatest corporations in America and still overcoming it, I would say to that individual, no one stands in your way.

02:27:25.000 Just figure out.

02:27:26.000 And Charlie, that advice, dude, going in and saying, I'll work for free.

02:27:30.000 I don't work.

02:27:30.000 Amen.

02:27:31.000 The worst anyone can say is no.

02:27:32.000 That's the best advice I've ever been given.

02:27:35.000 And frankly, that's how I got this job with Turning Point USA.

02:27:37.000 I asked.

02:27:38.000 This was before we really had a contributor program, before we had the infrastructure for what we're doing now.

02:27:44.000 And obviously, I worked at the organization quite a bit on my college campus, but I had an idea.

02:27:48.000 And so I started asking around.

02:27:50.000 And the worst anyone can ever tell you is, wait a few months.

02:27:53.000 It's not the right time.

02:27:54.000 Maybe not right now, but we'll consider it in the future.

02:27:56.000 If you get scrappy, you get tough.

02:27:58.000 You don't give up.

02:27:59.000 People will see that in you.

02:28:01.000 Go ahead.

02:28:02.000 When I told you about my son, and you said, look, the worst case scenario, he'll be here a year, doesn't do well, but he's going to be dead free and he'll learn a little bit of money.

02:28:11.000 I thought it was brilliant.

02:28:12.000 And he's gotten skills and he's seen a lot of things.

02:28:15.000 I can tell you that much.

02:28:16.000 Let's get that video back on screen.

02:28:19.000 Some people are saying that the F Antifa chant is a proud boy's chant.

02:28:23.000 I mean, that's kind of like saying the English language is, yeah, I mean, that's not exactly, it could be, I stand open-minded on that, but I'm not convinced that is compelling evidence when you have a group of people.

02:28:35.000 I mean, I would chant that.

02:28:36.000 I didn't know that was one of their chants.

02:28:37.000 So that's, you know, not exactly a fan.

02:28:40.000 You know, they put a lexicon together of yeah, those aren't exactly unique words.

02:28:45.000 You know, it was something else.

02:28:47.000 Will I find that in the library, that book?

02:28:49.000 So let's go to this video again, please, which just the behavior and the way they did, the way they were acting in this video is so uncharacteristic of Trump supporters and just anything we've ever seen.

02:29:03.000 But just the mannerisms and the way that they were bashing the window and the way that they were just taking kind of whatever they possibly had with hammers with them.

02:29:13.000 That's not anything that I've ever seen at any Trump rally ever before, ever.

02:29:16.000 Can we play that tape again, please?

02:29:18.000 And then you see a Trump supporter trying to tell them to stop.

02:29:21.000 Play tape here.

02:29:22.000 So you have two guys in all black that start bashing. 0.87

02:29:24.000 I'd love to see what happened before this.

02:29:26.000 He took some form of a flag and you could see they're dressed uncharacteristically than the rest of the crowd, right?

02:29:34.000 Starting to bash.

02:29:36.000 A lot of people, some people are cheering him on in the crowd.

02:29:39.000 Most people are shell-shocked.

02:29:40.000 Right.

02:29:42.000 Banging on there, man, they are really going to work on this window.

02:29:48.000 And then he takes the flag, and they're trying to tell him to stop.

02:29:53.000 This guy does.

02:29:54.000 He comes in right here.

02:29:56.000 And he tells him to stop.

02:29:57.000 He's left without his weapon.

02:29:58.000 Did he take out a knife?

02:30:00.000 Oh, no, that's his hand.

02:30:02.000 And he then flicks off.

02:30:03.000 That one woman right there.

02:30:04.000 That woman tries to get into him and tells, stop, stop.

02:30:07.000 You're hurting this for all of us.

02:30:08.000 This guy says, you don't know what's happening here.

02:30:12.000 It almost looks like she took his flag, did she?

02:30:14.000 Yeah.

02:30:14.000 And then this guy tries to explain away what's happening here, telling them to stop, trying to console them.

02:30:24.000 That person wants nothing to do with it.

02:30:26.000 Nothing.

02:30:27.000 Screaming is what it looks like, right?

02:30:30.000 Yeah.

02:30:30.000 And then this person flicks off the entire crowd.

02:30:35.000 The crowd looks completely differently dressed.

02:30:42.000 You can imagine that this guy with the hat is probably saying, the president said be peaceful.

02:30:47.000 We're here to be peaceful.

02:30:48.000 I'm patting you on the shoulder.

02:30:50.000 Flicking off the entire crowd.

02:30:51.000 Don't we say flip?

02:30:52.000 I don't know.

02:30:53.000 Yeah, it's all right.

02:30:54.000 Same thing.

02:30:58.000 I was taking from the five boys lexicon.

02:31:00.000 That changes the entire narrative.

02:31:03.000 I would say so.

02:31:04.000 Continue to email us our questions, freedom at charliekirk.com.

02:31:09.000 Let's go here to some people are saying they found the guy who is consoling them.

02:31:17.000 We're going to reach out.

02:31:18.000 We're going to make sure that's the right guy here.

02:31:26.000 And this guy has a video that he posted right here.

02:31:31.000 We'll see.

02:31:32.000 There's going to be a lot more footage coming out coming through as this happens in real time.

02:31:38.000 Let's get to this question here.

02:31:45.000 It's a good question here, Isabel.

02:31:47.000 My name is Charlie.

02:31:48.000 How do I discern what is factual and not?

02:31:50.000 This is Bo from Mississippi.

02:31:52.000 Well, first of all, truth has a ring to it.

02:31:54.000 Don't forget that.

02:31:55.000 We always forget that.

02:31:57.000 But if something feels off, you probably know it's not the truth.

02:32:01.000 It's not factual.

02:32:02.000 It's unfortunate because today in modern history, there's not really a lot of places you can go to find just facts and information and statistics and data and evidence without any sort of opinion associated with it.

02:32:14.000 Frankly, I would say nowhere in the mainstream media does that exist in 2021.

02:32:19.000 Small plug, we are working on something like that at Turning Point USA that you're going to be hearing about next week.

02:32:25.000 And that's all I can really say about that.

02:32:27.000 So, Rob, how do you discern truth from fiction?

02:32:32.000 Check your sources.

02:32:32.000 Yeah, check your sources.

02:32:34.000 And truth will be corroborated.

02:32:39.000 And so when you check your sources and you separate, you've got to go to the original source.

02:32:44.000 You've got to see the content and make sure that it's legitimate.

02:32:48.000 Because so many people, as a minister, especially one who's taken a stand, they send me everything.

02:32:54.000 And I finally just said from the pulpit, don't send me anything you haven't checked first.

02:32:58.000 Go to the original source, show me before you send it to me.

02:33:00.000 Yeah.

02:33:02.000 I don't want to operate by emotion.

02:33:04.000 Give me facts.

02:33:06.000 Test them.

02:33:07.000 And we do know that a guy from Utah who was a BLM activist, he was inside the house.

02:33:13.000 The Capitol.

02:33:14.000 He said he was just documenting the riots, but once he did say he wanted to burn it down.

02:33:18.000 That is verified from Fox News.

02:33:20.000 I've heard that this individual was the person who took the video footage of the young woman being shot.

02:33:26.000 I think that's about some of that.

02:33:28.000 He was actually interviewed on CNN last night or the night before.

02:33:32.000 Of course, he wasn't asked why he was in the building, but I do find that very interesting that we're clearly getting information on who some of these people are and interviewing them and making sure we understand more of the story.

02:33:44.000 At least some of them are not overt Trump supporters, and that is important to note.

02:33:51.000 Okay, just responding to some emails here.

02:33:53.000 Email us freedom at charliekirk.com.

02:33:56.000 Let's go right here.

02:34:00.000 This is a good one.

02:34:01.000 Hi, Charlie.

02:34:02.000 I'm a combat veteran from California.

02:34:04.000 I'm going to college to become a history professor at college so I can help with the brainwashing.

02:34:08.000 Amen for you.

02:34:09.000 Thank you.

02:34:10.000 This is a great.

02:34:11.000 I'm not saying we should go to a civil war.

02:34:13.000 I know the horrors of war, but I am ready to step up and protect the American people.

02:34:16.000 I swore an oath.

02:34:17.000 I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic.

02:34:21.000 Thomas Jefferson said the tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the bloods of patriots and tyrants.

02:34:26.000 So, my question is: where do we go from here if things turn violent?

02:34:30.000 Well, I would say to that combat veteran, first of all, thank you for your service.

02:34:33.000 Thank you for your service.

02:34:34.000 But I'd also say, because you know the horrors of war, that is for all of us a last resort, one that we hope would never occur.

02:34:41.000 Excuse me.

02:34:42.000 But I love what he's doing.

02:34:44.000 He's using his brain.

02:34:45.000 He's finding solutions.

02:34:47.000 He's educating himself.

02:34:48.000 He wants to educate others.

02:34:50.000 That's the path. 0.98

02:34:51.000 It's a longer path, but like I've been saying on this program, any jackass can knock down a barn door. 0.96

02:34:57.000 Only a carpenter can build one. 0.90

02:34:58.000 He's pursuing the realm of a carpenter.

02:35:00.000 That's what I'd say to all of us.

02:35:02.000 Be patient.

02:35:03.000 Don't be anxious.

02:35:04.000 Operate with wisdom.

02:35:06.000 Operate with prudence and find a solution because, as he said, you do not want to see bloodshed.

02:35:13.000 That is the last thing, and God forbid it ever happened to occur.

02:35:19.000 We're going to go here.

02:35:19.000 Zachary Fresquez.

02:35:21.000 Hi, Charlie.

02:35:21.000 My name is Zachary.

02:35:22.000 I'm currently in my AP U.S. history class listening to your show.

02:35:26.000 And my teacher is very liberal.

02:35:28.000 You are going to learn more from us than from her.

02:35:30.000 It's a good use of time.

02:35:31.000 Amen.

02:35:31.000 Well, first of all, thank you to the teacher for allowing.

02:35:33.000 He's listening from.

02:35:35.000 Is a teacher listening to this?

02:35:37.000 No, no.

02:35:37.000 I doubt he's not.

02:35:39.000 I got you.

02:35:39.000 He just told us that we'll be discussing the insurrection, and she even compared some of the Trump supporters to men in the South during the civil rights period.

02:35:45.000 I plan to stand up and respectfully say something.

02:35:47.000 How do I do this?

02:35:47.000 And what is a good argument to use?

02:35:49.000 So let me help you in your class in real time.

02:35:51.000 First of all, say that there were a lot of mixture of people that were there, and a lot of those people were not part of the 74 million Trump voters that voted in November.

02:36:00.000 Number two, no one condoned, supported, or got behind what happened there.

02:36:07.000 You can judge a movement based on how the leaders react to it.

02:36:11.000 And number three, just ask a very, very simple question: will there now be a massive indictment, not literally, of anyone who's a conservative of guilt by association?

02:36:24.000 And that's exactly what they're trying to do.

02:36:26.000 And so demand nuance from your teacher.

02:36:29.000 Your goal, remember, everything you should be doing is a goal in mind.

02:36:31.000 Demand to get your teacher to admit that that is not representative of the conservative movement or the Trump movement.

02:36:38.000 Yes.

02:36:38.000 Would you agree with that?

02:36:39.000 Fully, fully agree.

02:36:42.000 Okay.

02:36:42.000 Thank you for supporting us at charliekirk.com/slash support.

02:36:47.000 We are on top of this in real time.

02:36:48.000 If you guys want to win a signed copy of the MAGA Doctrine, take out your podcast provider, type in the Charlie Kirk show, and hit subscribe.

02:36:56.000 Rob, any closing thoughts?

02:36:58.000 Well, keep this up, Charlie, because America needs clarity.

02:37:03.000 They need understanding with wisdom dispels, and facts and truth dispel fear.

02:37:09.000 And a lot of folks are afraid right now.

02:37:10.000 Amen.

02:37:11.000 Tune into this.

02:37:12.000 Find not only Charlie's podcast, but others that do this homework, this real-time homework to analyze and look at so that you can have a rational approach to this instead of operating solely on your fears.

02:37:26.000 Let those dispel by facts.

02:37:28.000 And Charlie and Isabel, thank you guys.

02:37:31.000 You have no idea what it means to me as a minister in the state of California with the folks I'm dealing with.

02:37:36.000 You guys are a tremendous blessing.

02:37:38.000 Please go to tpusa.com/slash get involved if you want to get involved with Turning Point USA, which you all should do.

02:37:44.000 Please email us your questions in real time.

02:37:46.000 We're going to be back very soon.

02:37:47.000 We're on top of it.

02:37:48.000 Hardest working podcast in the country.

02:37:50.000 God bless you guys.

The Charlie Kirk Show - January 09, 2021

Making Sense of the Madness

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