00:00:00.000Hey everybody, welcome to this very special episode of the Charlie Kirk Show.
00:00:03.000With us today is a friend of mine, an American patriot, and someone who has been fighting very hard for all things that are good and true and beautiful, Laura Ingram from, of course, Fox News and many other incredible things that Laura has done, including speechwriter for Reagan in the 80s and clerking for the great Clarence Thomas and so much more.
00:00:45.000We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
00:01:39.000Well, I mentioned it for a reason because you have been in the conservative movement to see kind of what's been happening with how sometimes conservatives try to pander to the media and how the media will only say something favorable about a conservative if they're willing to attack other conservatives, which kind of goes to your open or some of your comments yesterday that I saw about George W. Bush's 9-11 speech.
00:02:07.000I thought that was a really profound take.
00:02:09.000Can you help build that out for our audience?
00:02:12.000Yeah, well, so the 20th anniversary of September 11th, so important, so emotional, so meaningful for all of America.
00:02:30.000But it was very interesting that the only former president who gave a live address was George W. Bush, who got most of the plaudits for attacking conservatives.
00:02:45.000Kind of cloaked in this swelled, you know, foreign threats and domestic threats, and I'm paraphrasing, are equally disturbing and dangerous for our nation.
00:03:43.000I, you know, ultimately changed my mind on that in 2007 or so, 2006, after I was there For a very short period of time, about a week, marinating in what the soldiers had told me there.
00:03:59.000Took me a while, but I finally got there to think: okay, what are we doing?
00:04:07.000And how are we possibly going to declare victory when victory really isn't even the metrics for victory, much like we're seeing now with COVID, aren't really established.
00:04:22.000And so, so the concern about internationalism and globalism and open borders and China and the World Trade Organization, all of this came together to have Republicans lose the House, the Senate, and the presidency by the end of the Bush administration.
00:04:45.000It was a wipeout of the Republican Party because, frankly, independents, Charlie said, we're done.
00:04:53.000Republicans hated these wars, and we had the housing crisis, the housing bubble burst, the internet bubble was in 2001 under Bush, 9-11, and basically flat wages for the whole time for the middle class.
00:05:30.000And now we're seeing that they really have to kill off as much as they can of populist conservatism, nationalist, populist, I think, more Reagan-like conservatism.
00:05:45.000So, Laura, maybe you can help me understand what is it in particular that Bush and the ruling class hates the most about kind of this new populist nationalist movement that is multiracial and it is kind of more of an emphasis on middle-class workers, something you were talking about well before Trump came onto the scene.
00:06:04.000Kind of one way it's described is that, well, the Bushes are heavily invested in corporate interests or that they have a more global mindset.
00:06:13.000What is it that kind of the Bush, the Romney, the Billy Crystals, like those people find such great exceptions?
00:06:28.000Yeah, so what is it in particular that really they find to be so disgusting?
00:06:33.000Well, I think the more power to the people, the less power for them.
00:06:39.000I mean, when the average person is happy and going to football games and able to put money away and go on vacations, and I mean, they don't need the government.
00:08:23.000Trump lost money when he was in office.
00:08:25.000They all became extremely, extremely wealthy by being open to China, by being globalist in outlook, and by not being one of the unwashed populist masses.
00:08:43.000I mean, it's a lot harder to be just a regular conservative that doesn't compromise every five minutes.
00:08:52.000When I say harder, it's if you care about affirmation from the elites, if you care about making money in elite circles, Charlie, like I'm not going to get invited to go on a junket to Europe with the Chamber of Commerce for a reason.
00:10:11.000They see that China's gobbling up resources, land, commercial real estate, residential real estate, cutting deals all over the world, rare earth materials, moving through soon, Afghanistan, to get whatever leverage they can there.
00:10:26.000And they haven't gotten involved in any of these stupid wars over the last 20 years.
00:12:02.000So, kind of speaking about China and how China has attacked us through what some would call a biological weapon, otherwise known as the Fauci virus, you know, Laura, I just want to say, since the very beginning, you were probably the best of anyone I could think of of covering what was really happening with this virus, alternative treatments, and you were attacked relentlessly.
00:12:25.000And you've been on top of the vaccine, and you've really inspired me to speak out on this as well.
00:12:30.000I've said publicly, I'm not getting vaccinated, which of course puts you in a whole different category of attack in the eyes of the mainstream media.
00:12:38.000And we get so many emails, Laura, from people that are saying that I'm going to lose my job.
00:12:43.000I'm going to lose my livelihood if I don't get vaccinated.
00:12:48.000Because people really are now seeing their livelihoods be put in jeopardy.
00:12:52.000Yeah, there's a COVID caste system that is being established by the same elites who have no problem inviting hundreds of thousands of Chinese interests into our country every year in the way of university connections, businesses, and so forth.
00:13:11.000So the goal, I think, is to, and when I say the goal, I mean, the global elites have learned a lot from our experience here in the United States and around the world.
00:13:25.000The same people who run the World Economic Forum, the George Soros, Bill Gates, you know, crowd, they're probably actually shocked at how compliant the American public are with all of this.
00:13:38.000I mean, I keep saying, like, where's the manifest destiny spirit?
00:13:45.000Like, where's this idea that we're common sense?
00:13:48.000We don't want we're free because we're free.
00:13:51.000We're not free because Anthony Fauci says we're free.
00:13:53.000We're free because we have given God, you know, we're endowed by our creator by these inalienable rights that don't distinguish between when a big box store can open and when a church can open.
00:14:38.000They've constantly changed and moved the goalposts.
00:14:42.000We can't rely on them to tell us the truth.
00:14:45.000When they can't be truthful about acquired immunity, natural immunity through prior exposure, when they're not being truthful about that, then I don't trust them, frankly, about most things.
00:15:00.000And I'm not looking to distrust anybody, but I feel like over the last 19 months, I feel like I'm very proud of the Ingram Angles coverage because I forced myself to learn a whole new world that I never thought in my wildest dreams I'd learn.
00:15:19.000I'm not saying I'm an immunologist, but I'm just saying I think I've gotten fairly conversant on the basics of immunology, just the basics and how a good experiment is done and how a lame experiment is done, how consensus doesn't really ever exist on most science.
00:15:42.000It takes years and years and years and years for a real consensus to develop over a long period of time.
00:15:48.000And also the financial interests, which killed off things like hydroxychloroquine, which is just a complete outrage.
00:15:58.000I mean, I have one of the most brilliant minds on infectious disease treatment whose father was a pioneer in the AIDS research with Fauci, Stephen Smith.
00:16:08.000And Stephen Smith said he thinks 100,000 lives could have been saved in the United States, at least with early interventions with the antiviral known as hydroxychloroquine.
00:16:18.000So we saw what they did to that, right?
00:16:20.000I mean, that was, I mean, that was just a hit and run by the media and Fauci.
00:16:54.000But I think there's an enormous amount of wisdom in practiced medicine.
00:16:59.000And for some reason, they have wanted to destroy the independence of the family practitioner and the infectious disease specialists and other doctors treating physicians across this country.
00:17:15.000They've tried to revoke their hospital privileges.
00:17:19.000They've told them what they can prescribe to their patients when it comes to antivirals and other therapeutics that have virtually zero side effects for most Americans.
00:18:13.000And it was just, we quoted it and we got kicked off Twitter.
00:18:16.000And that's that kind of drive-by shooting from the media and from the corporate oligarchy and big tech.
00:18:21.000So we've been talking about ivermectin on our show, and it's the same thing, same sort of thing where they don't want any sort of this treatment coverage.
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00:20:34.000When they condescendingly the other day, I don't know if it was one of the cabinet members, Biden's cabinet members, I can't remember which one, said, oh, people can work from home.
00:20:43.000They can homeschool their kids if they don't want their kids to be vaccinated.
00:20:46.000They can work from home if they don't want to do the vaccine for their company.
00:20:53.000Just because some professional elites and the media and Wall Street and high tech can work from home, I can tell you who's not working from home.
00:21:02.000The grocery store clerks or a lot of the pilots who are flying planes.
00:21:07.000I'm hearing from them as well, by the way.
00:21:10.000The flight attendants, they can't work from home.
00:22:20.000And I am perpetually underwhelmed by the GOP.
00:22:27.000I mean, it seems to me that we kind of saw what they were made of, not all of them, but enough when they went along with that bogus infrastructure deal with the Democrats, which helped pave the way for the discussion about the 3.5 trillion.
00:23:53.000And if the base of the country, the regular man, has no party to represent them, then the whole country falls apart because we know who represents the permanent government class and the activist class.
00:24:05.000We know who represents the ruling class.
00:24:07.000But I mean, you get these same messages I get, Laurie.
00:24:09.000You just talked about one, where it's just normal people that are earning $65,000 a year and have two kids, and they've really never cared that much about politics.
00:24:17.000But all of a sudden, now politics is caring about them.
00:24:19.000And they're like, wait a second, you know, who's here to defend me?
00:24:36.000You know, I think some others have been really strong.
00:24:39.000Pete Ricketts in Nebraska, Tate Reeves in Mississippi, Bill Lee in Tennessee, Christy Noam in South Dakota, Greg Abbott's been pretty good as well against these mandates.
00:24:50.000So look, I mean, holding on to our freedom and our independence in the face of China and a government, you know, a bipartisan group of government cooperators is not going to be easy.
00:25:06.000But all we can do is continue to fight, and all we can do is continue to vote.
00:25:11.000And I just refuse to kind of sit back and say, oh, woe is me.
00:25:18.000I mean, look, we have an enormous number of people on our side.
00:25:23.000And I think a growing coalition of diverse people on our side who don't like this, don't trust it, and see what's happening to the country.
00:25:34.000But we're not well funded compared to the, you know, all you have to say to look at is Gavin Newsom versus Larry Elder.
00:25:41.000Newsom has, what, $70 million to spend?
00:25:50.000We are just weeks away from yet another American travesty, one that could lead our country even further down the road to tyranny.
00:25:58.000I'm talking, of course, about court packing, the far left's radical plan to rig our entire federal judiciary system by adding four liberal justices to the Supreme Court and completely destroying the constitutional rule of law in our country as we know it.
00:26:13.000Thankfully, my friends at First Liberty Institute, a national nonprofit law firm, are taking a stand.
00:26:20.000They've written a letter telling the Biden Commission to reject this brazen court packing scheme.
00:26:26.000And now prominent leaders, plus over 100,000 patriots like you have joined their coalition.
00:26:31.000Franklin Graham, former Attorney General Ed Meese, Dr. Dobson, plus organizations like the American Policy Association, Concerned Women for America, are all on board.
00:27:16.000If you guys are interested in getting Laura's podcast, which you have some wonderful guests on.
00:27:22.000You just had Nigel Farage and Rick Grinnell on, which I encourage people to look at.
00:27:26.000Last question here, Laura, with some breaking news with Mark Milley, who it has now come out to show that he was probably illegally doing some meetings with fellow generals to try to undercut President Trump.
00:28:21.000You want to know what an insurrection is?
00:28:22.000You get a guy with tens of billions of dollars in weaponry in a Pentagon budget behind him conspiring against the commander-in-chief elected by the United States of America.
00:28:39.000And apparently he called China and warned his Chinese counterpart that if a war began, we basically were, you know, we have it under control.
00:28:51.000Again, I'm paraphrasing, but so he called his Chinese counterpart instead of talking to the Speaker of the House and the Senate Majority Leader together.
00:29:03.000Like he had real concerns, but he went to China to share them about the U.S. government.
00:29:08.000What do you think that does to our national security?
00:29:11.000I mean, the man is an absolute train wreck.
00:29:18.000He has failed in every military conflict.
00:29:22.000These generals have not won a war outright in 77 years or 76 years.
00:29:29.000And we're supposed to be lectured by them on the cultural issues or white rage or critical race theory or all this blame shifting about what happened during the election or January 6th or any of it.
00:29:47.000How about win a freaking war with all the money that we sent you?
00:29:52.000How about give some decent advice and abide by what the president instructs you to do as a commander-in-chief, namely pull our troops out of Afghanistan in a responsible way and deploy our personnel who are brave and courageous to areas around the world that are true threats to American security.
00:30:14.000So he absolutely, I detest what he has done.
00:30:19.000He and many others like him, what they have done to the U.S. military and how they have recklessly flouted our Constitution and the chain of command, at the same time, castigating the average American supporter of Donald Trump.
00:31:03.000And of course, every single night at 10 p.m., Laura Ingram, and amazing wisdom.
00:31:09.000And I just want to say, everyone listening, that you have a great advocate here in Laura when it comes to the vaccine mandates and fighting for your children.
00:31:18.000Because I'm afraid it's only going to get more intense and the stakes are only going to get higher as we proceed.
00:31:23.000Laura, thank you so much for joining us today.