The Charlie Kirk Show - August 04, 2022


Maricopa Madness Update + Hammering Globalism with Sen. Josh Hawley


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Sen. Josh Hawley (R-Ariz.) joins the Charlie Kirk Show to discuss the lack of transparency in Arizona's election system, and the latest on the Maricopa County Supervisor's race, which is still waiting to be counted.

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00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, today in the Charlie Kirk Show, Senator Josh Hawley joins us and also the latest out of Maricopa County, the unacceptable nature of our elections in Arizona.
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00:01:16.000 If we do not have elections we can trust, then we live in a banana republic.
00:01:22.000 One of the characteristics that was well known in the Soviet Union was that it took them many days and weeks to count the ballots. 0.93
00:01:29.000 They wanted to make sure the outcome of their, quote, fake elections, they didn't even have elections, they were a joke, would be in their favor. 0.89
00:01:38.000 Elections need to be transparent, simple, and quick to tabulate.
00:01:43.000 If we believe that elections are the transfer of power, said differently, elections are the way we, the sovereign, give permission to our leaders to act and to operate.
00:01:57.000 It is an act of transfer of sovereignty temporarily, outsourcing responsibility to an elected official.
00:02:07.000 If there is murkiness, if there is muddiness, if there is uneasiness about how that election is conducted, then people will not trust those in charge.
00:02:21.000 What's happening in Arizona is an abject disgrace to the modern world.
00:02:28.000 And this is not the first time this has happened.
00:02:30.000 This is the fourth election cycle this has happened in Arizona.
00:02:34.000 And every time we try to challenge the people in Arizona to fix this, Stephen Richer, the state house, the state Senate, we get condescendingly talked to as if, oh, you don't know what you're talking about.
00:02:45.000 We're not going to put up with this anymore.
00:02:48.000 We are now 36 hours plus of polls closing.
00:02:53.000 We are now on the 38th hour, and there are still 125 to 175,000 ballots still outstanding in Maricopa County.
00:03:03.000 I believe one of the reasons is because the establishment in Arizona wants to try to rob every day they can from Kerry Lake to give her the victory speech, transfer her entire operation to a general election. 0.63
00:03:19.000 Now, we are about 93, 92 days away from the midterm elections.
00:03:24.000 You want to hear something even crazier?
00:03:26.000 We are 60 days away from early voting, 60 days away.
00:03:32.000 In a governor's race, that could be anywhere between a $75 to $100 million governor's race or a Senate race that will be $150 to $175 million every day literally costs you millions of dollars.
00:03:46.000 And so, if you are delaying this unnecessarily, of which there is no excuse whatsoever, with the Maricopa County supervisors and Stephen Richer and all these people in Maricopa County are doing, you are literally able to give an in-kind donation to Katie Hobbs.
00:04:02.000 There's something so fundamentally wrong with someone who is running for governor of Arizona, Katie Hobbs, who also is tasked with overseeing the elections.
00:04:13.000 Katie Hobbs is the Secretary of State in Arizona. 0.99
00:04:18.000 They counted her ballots just fine. 0.78
00:04:19.000 I mean, they got them all processed.
00:04:21.000 She's the winner.
00:04:21.000 Okay, she beat someone by 50 points.
00:04:23.000 It wasn't close.
00:04:24.000 They didn't need to count all of them to know that.
00:04:26.000 But how is it, in what universe is it okay that the secretary of state of a state is allowed, without having to recuse herself or having to mention conflict of interest, to oversee the election of her potential opponent and then participate in the administration of the election against another opponent when she wants to be governor of the state of Arizona?
00:04:48.000 I know a lot of people right now are on edge and nervous.
00:04:52.000 There's two things we're gonna.
00:04:53.000 I'm gonna differentiate the outrage, the anger that I have towards the Maricopa County supervisors and Stephen Richer, but I also want to keep you at ease and lean on me and our show and our data programming.
00:05:09.000 That we've done.
00:05:10.000 We stayed up very late last night because we believe that our models and our projections will remain.
00:05:20.000 There's one reason why I think they're a little bit surprised.
00:05:25.000 If they would have listened to us, they shouldn't have been surprised.
00:05:29.000 It's because there was such an overwhelming amount of people that showed up on election day with their ballot.
00:05:36.000 Those get separated into a different category, but those are the trumpiest ballots of all.
00:05:42.000 Those are your 2,000 meal people.
00:05:44.000 In fact, in some precincts they had a thousand people come vote in person and 3 to 4,000 people show up with their ballot day of now.
00:05:54.000 If the Maricopa County supervisors, otherwise known as the Nicaraguan division of elections, would have listened to us, all of this could have been fixed.
00:06:03.000 Arizona has this incredibly backwards twisted, unacceptably complex way of counting ballots.
00:06:14.000 The way you should conduct elections in America is precinct by precinct.
00:06:19.000 Every precinct tabulates their votes, they send them into the local county and the county announces them.
00:06:26.000 I grew up in America, and so did you, where we could have election results a couple hours after polls close.
00:06:32.000 Now we have to wait days.
00:06:34.000 Now, even if there's no shenanigans and there's no ballots being cast aside and every signature is being perfectly vindicated and verified, it certainly doesn't help, does it?
00:06:48.000 It doesn't help the amount of trust we have in the system.
00:06:51.000 I lose trust, and you should too.
00:06:54.000 These are the very same institutions that lied to us about COVID, lied to us about all of the experimental gene therapies. 0.95
00:07:03.000 All these institutions, and they're so smug and arrogant.
00:07:07.000 When you call up the Maricopa County supervisor, of which, if you are in Arizona right now, you should be flooding the phone lines of the Maricopa County supervisors.
00:07:14.000 They're very polite when you call, by the way, but you should say, on what planet is this acceptable?
00:07:22.000 You work for us.
00:07:24.000 It takes days to count these ballots, and so this is actually people you know.
00:07:29.000 The media says, well, you know Charlie, you're trying to sow distrust in the election system.
00:07:35.000 No, they're doing a fine job of that themselves.
00:07:38.000 Why does it take so long?
00:07:39.000 Why can't you hire the people to do it?
00:07:41.000 Figure it out.
00:07:44.000 So then there's this Republican who is lauded by the entire media establishment, a guy named Stephen Richer.
00:07:52.000 He's very similar to Adam Kinzinger and Peter Meyer. 0.87
00:07:56.000 He's a very weak person, very dangerous.
00:08:00.000 He runs the Maricopa County Supervisors. 0.75
00:08:03.000 I think he's the, what's his exact title?
00:08:06.000 He's the Maricopa County Administrator of Elections or something like that.
00:08:11.000 And by the way, we're going to get rid of him in 2024.
00:08:14.000 I believe he's up.
00:08:15.000 Look how smug he was.
00:08:17.000 This is who's running your elections.
00:08:19.000 Some of you are saying, Charlie, why do you focus so much on Arizona?
00:08:22.000 Not a lot of you, but some of you.
00:08:24.000 I'm going to reiterate this.
00:08:26.000 Remember how much we used to focus on Florida in the Gore v. Bush election?
00:08:31.000 Remember when we focused on Ohio in Gore v. Kerry?
00:08:36.000 As Arizona goes, the entire nation goes.
00:08:38.000 Arizona is now the battleground, period.
00:08:42.000 If you care about America, the entire nation comes down to Arizona.
00:08:49.000 It never used to be that way.
00:08:51.000 Weak Republicans made it this way in Arizona. 0.84
00:08:54.000 Treacherous Republicans made it this way.
00:08:56.000 Out-of-state people moved into this state and changed it.
00:08:59.000 Lack of leadership, people like Jeff Flake all the way on down.
00:09:03.000 And now we have this purple state that we have to try to win back that used to be a beacon of freedom around the country.
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00:10:33.000 I should have said earlier in the program, we do not transfer our sovereignty.
00:10:37.000 We assign stewardship to our elected representatives.
00:10:40.000 We got an email from Melody correcting me on that.
00:10:43.000 I had my, I wasn't as precise in my language as I should have been.
00:10:46.000 It's actually a very important distinction.
00:10:48.000 So you have this guy running Maricopa County, the elections, who is an aspirational Democrat masquerading as a Republican.
00:10:58.000 His name is Stephen Richer, and he gets completely celebrated by national media.
00:11:04.000 So does Katie Hobbs, who's running for governor as Secretary of State.
00:11:07.000 Stephen Richer is the Maricopa County recorder.
00:11:11.000 That's his official title, Maricopa County Recorder.
00:11:14.000 Listen to this piece of tape here back in 2020, how he reacted in the 2020 election.
00:11:20.000 And then he invokes Mark Fincham, who, interestingly enough, is now going to be running for Secretary of State in Arizona, PlayCut 47.
00:11:28.000 Mark Fincham is running for Secretary of State.
00:11:32.000 Process that.
00:11:33.000 If the election was completely fraudulent, as he says, why would you run for Secretary?
00:11:40.000 What do you think Dominion is going to rig it in your favor this time?
00:11:44.000 Do you think that fraud doesn't apply to the Secretary of State's race?
00:11:49.000 Do you think that things have materially changed since 2020 because Michelle Ugente Rita passed one Pebble bill?
00:11:56.000 Why are you running if you do not believe in these elections?
00:11:59.000 I would suggest that his actions speak a lot louder than his words.
00:12:04.000 Thanks. 0.94
00:12:06.000 This guy's a total freak.
00:12:07.000 And why is he running? 0.96
00:12:09.000 It's because you do the courageous and the moral thing.
00:12:12.000 Even though you know there might be problems, maybe you can overwhelm the system, Stephen Richer.
00:12:17.000 Last time in 2020, the election was decided by 10,000 votes.
00:12:21.000 And based on revelations in 2000 Mules, you allowed and enabled a ballot trafficking operation all across Maricopa.
00:12:28.000 Happened in other parts of the state as well, in Yuma County in particular, completely and totally unhinged.
00:12:35.000 So this guy's the Maricopa County recorder.
00:12:37.000 He's in charge of how your elections are conducted.
00:12:43.000 You see, the left, they are so sneaky.
00:12:47.000 They put these people in offices that we don't always care about.
00:12:52.000 You see, we care about senators and congressmen and governors.
00:12:56.000 They care about attorney general's offices, secretary of state's, and recorders' offices.
00:13:01.000 That's what they care about.
00:13:03.000 Ricky said, Maricopa is a national embarrassment.
00:13:06.000 The same people who stole the election of President Trump are still in office.
00:13:10.000 So it'd be no surprise that Maricopa County is doing it again.
00:13:12.000 We cannot accept anything less.
00:13:14.000 And so this is going to be it.
00:13:16.000 By the way, we're going to get the phone number for the Maricopa County Recorder's Office.
00:13:19.000 You should just ask respectfully and politely, why is it that in the third world, they get their elections results quicker than in Arizona?
00:13:33.000 Every other state can get their election results together.
00:13:37.000 You see, when you have elections that go over a longer period of time, it expands the opportunity for people to be able to play games with ballots, to be able to have shenanigans.
00:13:49.000 When you have a shorter period of time, it lessens the opportunity for bad actors to be able to go into vote processing centers and to be able to do, unfortunately, what we know happens far too often in our elections.
00:14:03.000 Now, thankfully, there's been this massive, overwhelming MAGA turnout that I personally believe will be impossible to play games with.
00:14:15.000 But every day they're delaying, they're trying to make it seem as if this race is a lot closer than it actually is.
00:14:25.000 This is something that's happened now all across the country, and Arizona is ground zero for that.
00:14:32.000 And they're saying, well, the race is too close to call.
00:14:34.000 It really isn't too close to call.
00:14:36.000 When you see the final results, when these 125,000 ballots in Maricopa County are counted, when these other counties fully report, I actually think it's not going to be too close to call.
00:14:47.000 I think it could be a 30, 40, 50,000 vote victory.
00:14:52.000 They want you to think it's too close to call because what you're going to see in Arizona is the same thing are going to happen otherwise.
00:14:57.000 You're going to see moderate Republicans come out and say, we can't support Kerry Lake.
00:15:01.000 We can't support Blake Masters.
00:15:03.000 They're too radical.
00:15:04.000 They're going to have Republicans for Katie Hobbs. 1.00
00:15:06.000 And I guarantee you, on Monday, Arizona Republic and all these other newspapers are going to come out with fake suppression polls showing Kerry Lake down 10 points to Katie Hobbs, of which no one can answer the question, why is it that Katie Hobbs is allowed to run for governor and also oversee her own election running for governor? 0.80
00:15:27.000 Why is that legal?
00:15:31.000 That would be the equivalent of Michael Jordan trying to compete in an NBA final game and also be the referee.
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00:16:43.000 There are very few people in Washington, D.C. of which I will give praise to, but this senator has just been phenomenal at every single fight, every corner, every turn.
00:16:55.000 He just did a very courageous vote.
00:16:57.000 He was the only senator to vote against NATO expansion.
00:17:02.000 But I don't want to start with that.
00:17:03.000 I first want to welcome Senator Hawley.
00:17:05.000 Welcome back to the program.
00:17:06.000 Hey, thanks for having me, Charlie.
00:17:08.000 So I want to start with this tape of you with FBI Director Christopher Wray, where you ask him, why is the Federal Bureau of Investigation asking for concealed carry information?
00:17:19.000 This one stuck out to me.
00:17:20.000 I want to lead with this.
00:17:21.000 Let's play CUT 53 and then explain it to our audience, please.
00:17:24.000 Play Cut 53.
00:17:25.000 What the sheriffs of Missouri say in 2018 is that the FBI did not request concealed carry records.
00:17:33.000 You are requesting it this year.
00:17:34.000 In the state of Missouri, only the sheriffs have these concealed carry records because Missouri law explicitly forbids concealed carry permit information to be turned over to state officials or to federal officials.
00:17:47.000 I just want to understand why it is the FBI is now seeking from our sheriffs.
00:17:51.000 And we're talking about multiple sheriffs who have come, who have contacted me, who have contacted other state officials, who have spoken to the press, saying that the FBI is now asking for the names of concealed carry permit holders in the state of Missouri.
00:18:06.000 Why is that if you've not done it before?
00:18:07.000 I don't understand.
00:18:09.000 Well, again, I'm going to have to look deeper into to give you a more fulsome answer to your question.
00:18:14.000 Yeah, look deeper into it.
00:18:15.000 Senator, your thoughts.
00:18:16.000 Well, that just means that he doesn't want to explain.
00:18:18.000 He doesn't want to be on the hook.
00:18:19.000 The truth is, Charlie, what it looks like to me is retaliation.
00:18:22.000 Right now, the Biden administration is suing the state of Missouri over Second Amendment protections.
00:18:27.000 And then all of a sudden, at about the same time, the FBI comes into Missouri and says to the sheriffs, hey, give us the list of all your concealed carry permit holders.
00:18:36.000 I mean, maybe that's coincidence.
00:18:38.000 I kind of doubt it.
00:18:38.000 The fact that Ray wouldn't answer any questions about it, but yet, you know, when I press him on it, Charlie, then he said, well, I mean, maybe here's why we're doing it.
00:18:45.000 So he knows more than he's letting on.
00:18:47.000 He just doesn't want to say.
00:18:48.000 But either way, it's a huge invasion of privacy.
00:18:51.000 And it's exactly what gun owners fear, you know, is that your records are going to get turned over, going to get used in some federal database.
00:18:58.000 We have no idea what the federal government would do with these names once it got them.
00:19:01.000 And frankly, I don't trust the federal government at all to keep any of this stuff private.
00:19:06.000 Yeah, and just the smugness of how they answer these questions, Senator, the way we do congressional oversight is maddening for regular everyday citizens.
00:19:16.000 And you guys are doing the best you can, but it's just this kind of nonstop theatrical campaign where they have many weeks to prepare and then they have all the synonyms of non-answers.
00:19:25.000 I'll have to circle back or whatever they say.
00:19:28.000 And then maybe a couple years later, we might find out once it's out of the news cycle.
00:19:33.000 Do you have any thoughts on that?
00:19:34.000 It seems as if it's harder than ever to do congressional oversight of these unelected administrative agencies.
00:19:40.000 Oh, that's absolutely true.
00:19:42.000 And, you know, just take today, for example, Ray hasn't been up in front of the Senate, in front of this committee in over a year now.
00:19:49.000 He hasn't answered questions.
00:19:50.000 Think about that under oath in over a year.
00:19:51.000 And get this.
00:19:52.000 What he then was saying today, though, was that he has a hard stop.
00:19:55.000 That was what he said.
00:19:56.000 I've got a hard stop.
00:19:56.000 I got to go in just a few minutes.
00:19:58.000 I'm like, wait a minute.
00:19:59.000 This is your job.
00:20:00.000 I mean, you're here under oath in front of cameras to answer questions for the American people and you've got something else to do.
00:20:06.000 I mean, what would that be exactly?
00:20:08.000 And the Democrats are fine with it.
00:20:10.000 You know, they do, oh, sure, whatever you want because they want the bureaucracy to run this government.
00:20:14.000 That's the secret here.
00:20:16.000 The liberals don't want the American people to run the government.
00:20:18.000 They don't want their elected officials to run the government.
00:20:20.000 They want the deep state to run the government.
00:20:22.000 They're fine with it.
00:20:24.000 And it's a huge problem.
00:20:25.000 We have got to change it.
00:20:26.000 I remember a time when Democrats used to be really concerned about civil liberties and they thought the FBI was too powerful and too strong.
00:20:33.000 Now many Democrats look at them as their kind of Democrat police force.
00:20:37.000 I hate to be that blunt, but they are able to deploy them against political enemies and opposition.
00:20:43.000 I want to go to this other story here, Senator, that you guys have a press release on.
00:20:47.000 Senator Hawley and Senator Johnson exposed new whistleblower allegations about Biden failure to vet Afghan evacuees.
00:20:55.000 Tell us about this.
00:20:56.000 Well, what we've had is a whistleblower, patriotic whistleblower, who has come forward to say there are hundreds, like over 300 Afghan refugees brought to this country who had information in the watch list, who are on the terrorist watch list and yet got into this country anyway.
00:21:12.000 And for all we now know, are now out in the country, in the interior somewhere.
00:21:16.000 So previously, we thought the number was about 50.
00:21:19.000 What this whistleblower says is, no, it's over 300.
00:21:22.000 So I asked Ray about this because the FBI is supposed to be tracking these people.
00:21:26.000 He said he didn't know anything about it.
00:21:27.000 Oh, I don't know.
00:21:28.000 I'll have to get back to you.
00:21:29.000 I mean, it just shows.
00:21:31.000 Right.
00:21:32.000 Exactly.
00:21:32.000 He doesn't have time for this stuff.
00:21:34.000 So it just shows you that it is total shambles over there, this administration.
00:21:38.000 But also, they don't care about the security of the American people.
00:21:41.000 The other thing that this whistleblower exposed is that DHS employees have been authorized to start deleting data, biometric data from this terrorist database, start deleting it in what looks like a cover-up.
00:21:54.000 So, I mean, this is big stuff.
00:21:55.000 And obviously, we're going to try to get answers here.
00:21:57.000 Senator Ron Johnson and I have sent a letter today to the Inspector General over at DOD to say, you need to open an investigation of this.
00:22:03.000 We should do hearings on this.
00:22:04.000 But it goes back to your point, Charlie.
00:22:06.000 Democrats don't want to do any hearings on anything.
00:22:09.000 They don't want to ask any questions.
00:22:10.000 It's see no evil, hear no evil.
00:22:12.000 You know, let's just all pretend that none of this is happening.
00:22:15.000 Look over here.
00:22:16.000 Let's talk about climate change.
00:22:17.000 I mean, that is what their agenda is. 0.99
00:22:19.000 And it's pathetic. 0.95
00:22:21.000 Yeah, I mean, just of all the threats to our liberties, an unaccountable police force that does whatever they want, that targets moms and dads that go to school board meetings, but not foreign nationals from terrorist country of terrorism, Afghanistan, that could just be in our midst. 0.94
00:22:38.000 And that's not the only, you know, whistleblower that we have on this.
00:22:42.000 I know Chuck Grassley has some other stuff that's potentially coming out as well on this, but it just seems as if the FBI, the way that they answer your questions or don't answer them, there is an attitude of, I am the supreme branch of government, right?
00:22:57.000 That you guys are kind of a waste of time in the legislative.
00:23:00.000 And it's just, it's so constitutionally wrong because we're supposed to have these separate branches and checks and balances on them.
00:23:07.000 So, Senator, I want to ask you about the NATO expansion vote.
00:23:10.000 First, I want to thank you for your vote.
00:23:12.000 You're the only senator to vote against expanding NATO.
00:23:16.000 Tell us why.
00:23:18.000 Well, because it doesn't make the United States stronger.
00:23:20.000 It doesn't make us safer.
00:23:21.000 It's pretty simple, Charlie.
00:23:22.000 I mean, that ought to be what we're asking.
00:23:24.000 Thought in our questions about American foreign policy: is it good for the United States and does it make us stronger?
00:23:29.000 And if the answer to that is no, then why would we do it?
00:23:32.000 Expanding NATO, here's what will amount to: it will amount to us spending more money in Europe, sending more troops to Europe, making more commitments in Europe.
00:23:40.000 And my view is with the issues that we've got now at home and overseas with China, I mean, this is not the time to be doing more in Europe.
00:23:48.000 In fact, we ought to be doing less.
00:23:49.000 The Europeans ought to be doing more.
00:23:51.000 And we should go in the opposite direction and be saying to the Europeans, listen, you really need to take first responsibility for your own continent and you need to quit freeloading on the United States. 0.66
00:24:01.000 So that ought to be the message that we send, but we're sending the opposite message. 0.69
00:24:01.000 That's right. 0.69
00:24:04.000 I mean, this administration has surged tens of thousands of new troops into Europe, made huge spending commitments to Ukraine.
00:24:12.000 We've talked about that.
00:24:13.000 That money just goes on and on and on.
00:24:15.000 And I'm telling you, when China invades Taiwan and when they start dictating our terms of trade and when they won't give us market access and when they start ripping us off even more than they are now, we're going to wonder how did it get to this point.
00:24:26.000 And we'll look back and say, because of decisions like this one.
00:24:28.000 That's an interesting way to phrase it.
00:24:29.000 You said when China invades Taiwan.
00:24:31.000 Can you elaborate on that? 0.98
00:24:33.000 Oh, I think they want to.
00:24:34.000 I mean, it is an open secret.
00:24:36.000 It's no secret at all.
00:24:36.000 China wants to invade Taiwan.
00:24:38.000 They think that Taiwan belongs to them.
00:24:40.000 And I think the question Americans should ask is: okay, well, why do we care?
00:24:43.000 Well, here's why we care.
00:24:44.000 Because what China wants to do is they want to dictate to us how we can trade and where.
00:24:49.000 They want to dictate to us where we can manufacture and where we can't.
00:24:52.000 They want to dictate to us the kind of economy we can have.
00:24:55.000 And their pathway to doing that is to control the entire Pacific and after that, to control the world. 0.94
00:25:01.000 And so the Taiwan thing is a stepping stone for them, but it's key. 0.63
00:25:05.000 And I'm just telling you, Charlie, we've got to be honest with the American people. 0.97
00:25:08.000 We are not in position right now to stop China. 0.87
00:25:11.000 We're not.
00:25:12.000 If China tried to invade Taiwan, we couldn't stop it.
00:25:14.000 I don't think the entire strategy should have been keeping our powder dry for a potential Taiwanese invasion, of which this entire Ukrainian proxy war conflict, it's actually made Russia wealthier and stronger.
00:25:25.000 And one of the arguments against NATO expansion, which again, no one in the Senate understands, quite honestly, except you, is that this actually strengthens Putin domestically.
00:25:35.000 If you talk to anyone, yeah, please, your thoughts, Senator.
00:25:38.000 No, I mean, you're right about this.
00:25:40.000 And here's the other thing, though, here's my nightmare, Charlie: is that as we get more and more tied down in Europe, you look at China, you look at the Communist Party there, and they say, oh, great, the United States is doing more in Europe. 0.64
00:25:51.000 Let's invade Taiwan now.
00:25:52.000 I mean, you know, this is why we can't fight two simultaneous wars against Russia and China under the best of circumstances.
00:25:59.000 And we can't afford to have China running rampant in the Pacific and again, kicking us out and controlling our trade, controlling our economy, controlling our jobs.
00:26:08.000 And that is what is going to happen. 0.94
00:26:10.000 So I just think that the hour is really late right now in Asia.
00:26:13.000 It's really late with regard to what China is trying to do in their imperialism.
00:26:17.000 And we are not in a position to stop it. 0.60
00:26:20.000 And it's because we have been tied down in Europe and tied down on the Middle East and not focusing where we should.
00:26:26.000 And so what is going to happen now domestically in Russia is Putin will, through all of his propaganda channels, he'll say, see, the West is continuing their invasion closer to our border, right?
00:26:37.000 And now, but this is what I don't understand, Senator, is that for the longest period of time, everyone says, well, we can't allow Putin to take over Ukraine because it's now going to border a NATO country.
00:26:50.000 And that was like the big talking point, even though it's not true because there's Colin Grud Oblast, but whatever.
00:26:56.000 But Finland borders Russia.
00:26:59.000 And so, and by the way, there is a lot of kind of overlap in culture and language with Finland and Russia.
00:27:05.000 So just to make sure everyone that understands this at home, only Senator Hawley thinks that it's insane that American men and women should be drafted into a military because of a proxy war that might happen in the Finnish-Russian border.
00:27:19.000 How is that the concern of the United States?
00:27:21.000 While we have so many problems domestically, just really quick, Senator, isn't that the moment where we should prioritize our own needs, not potential border disputes amongst warring nations in Europe?
00:27:32.000 Absolutely.
00:27:33.000 Listen, American foreign policy should always be about prioritizing American needs and American security.
00:27:38.000 I mean, that's what it is.
00:27:39.000 And I think the fact that we even have to have this conversation shows you just how out of touch people in Washington, D.C. have become on both sides of the aisle.
00:27:46.000 They have completely lost the focus on American security, American workers, American prosperity.
00:27:52.000 And it's become all of this gauzy nation-building, new world order, liberal international system stuff.
00:27:58.000 And, you know, we need to refocus and say, hold on, hold on.
00:28:01.000 What is in the interests of the American people and American security?
00:28:04.000 That's the most operative question.
00:28:06.000 95 to 1, there was one no on NATO expansion.
00:28:11.000 And again, NATO is a failed project in the modern era because it subsidizes socialism domestically in Europe.
00:28:19.000 So they don't have to draft their own military.
00:28:21.000 It outsources Europe's own responsibility to America, and then it could potentially get us involved in something we are not prepared in that is not in our national security interest. 0.82
00:28:33.000 While what's happening in Asia, I totally agree. 0.99
00:28:36.000 That should be the focus.
00:28:38.000 We cannot take our eye off the ball of what's happening with the Chinese Communist Party. 1.00
00:28:42.000 Senator, we have an invasion on our southern border. 0.97
00:28:44.000 I just help explain to our audience why is it that most people in D.C. spend more time talking about foreign borders than our own border?
00:28:51.000 You know, I don't know.
00:28:52.000 I don't really get it.
00:28:53.000 I mean, I guess it's just at the end of the day, they don't understand what it means to have our borders completely overrun, what it means to have the cartels control the border.
00:29:02.000 Because by the way, that's what's happening here.
00:29:04.000 It's actually not quite true.
00:29:05.000 I sometimes say, oh, it's total chaos on the border.
00:29:07.000 Yes and no.
00:29:08.000 The cartels are in charge.
00:29:09.000 I mean, somebody's in charge down there.
00:29:11.000 It's not the U.S. government.
00:29:12.000 It's the cartels.
00:29:13.000 They are making money hand over fist by doing what?
00:29:15.000 Smuggling drugs, smuggling people, abusing children.
00:29:19.000 That's what's happening.
00:29:21.000 And just on the drug piece, Charlie, I mean, one of the reasons I care a lot about this is that the drugs that are pouring across our southern border are in every single community of my state of Missouri.
00:29:31.000 And unfortunately, every community across this country, we are awash in drugs in Missouri.
00:29:36.000 And the reason is our border is not secure.
00:29:38.000 Yeah.
00:29:39.000 And it seems to be as if there's this really sick connection, unfortunately, between the muscular class and people that work at their hands.
00:29:46.000 They might get injured at work.
00:29:47.000 They get prescribed opioids by their doctor.
00:29:50.000 And then unfortunately starts them on this path of addiction that then, of course, might get supplemented or augmented by the flow of fentanyl.
00:29:59.000 A normal country would say to China that you have not just infected us with the Wuhan flu, but also you've allowed millions of pounds of this lethal fentanyl into America.
00:30:12.000 The issues that actually impact our citizens seem to always kind of be put to the third rail. 0.66
00:30:18.000 I don't know how you voted, but I would just love your thoughts on the CHIPS Act.
00:30:23.000 What was your thoughts on that bill?
00:30:25.000 Oh, I voted no on that.
00:30:26.000 Okay, good.
00:30:26.000 And the reason is, yeah, I mean, it's a total giveaway.
00:30:28.000 I mean, here's the CHIPS thing is real simple.
00:30:31.000 It's a whole bunch of money to corporate interests in America to keep doing what they're already doing, which is to sell us out to China.
00:30:38.000 We're going to give now under this pill, we're going to give a whole bunch of tax breaks, billions of dollars in tax breaks to mega corporations who are running operations in China, and they'll get to keep doing it.
00:30:38.000 I mean, so here's the deal.
00:30:48.000 It's just a myth that this bill will bring back any jobs.
00:30:51.000 It's not going to bring back jobs.
00:30:52.000 It's going to subsidize the worst multinational corporations. 0.94
00:30:56.000 We should be doing just the opposite.
00:30:57.000 By the way, Charlie, this is why tariffs are important.
00:30:59.000 We need those tariffs.
00:31:00.000 Yes, we do.
00:31:01.000 We need tariffs to rebuild American industry for American workers.
00:31:06.000 And just to your point about American workers, here's what I notice about DC, my short time here.
00:31:11.000 If it is something, if it's an issue like fentanyl, like opioids that affects working people in this country, D.C. doesn't really notice.
00:31:19.000 You know, they just don't care that much.
00:31:21.000 It's like, eh, you know, that's an issue for somebody else.
00:31:24.000 If it's the working folks who are the backbone of this country, it gets passed over over and again.
00:31:29.000 But if it's lobbyists, you know, and the money class and the multinational corporations, oh, that's a whole other deal.
00:31:35.000 Then it's pressing.
00:31:36.000 Then we have to subsidize them.
00:31:37.000 And then super sense of urgency if all of a sudden the defense contractors think that they can get involved in a proxy war.
00:31:37.000 Yeah.
00:31:44.000 Senator, really quick, your neighboring state of Kansas, they voted down a very poorly worded bill on the pro-life issue, bill, a referendum, I should say.
00:31:54.000 Do you think going into the midterms, how should we talk about our pro-life ideas and values?
00:32:01.000 There are some whispers from establishment circles.
00:32:03.000 See, see, Kansas is going to prevent us from winning on the life issue. 0.73
00:32:07.000 Do you agree with that?
00:32:08.000 No, I don't.
00:32:09.000 And the reason is the Democrats' positions are so extreme, Charlie, and so unpopular.
00:32:13.000 Let's not forget what the Democrats want to do is impose on the whole country abortion on demand for full nine months up to and including the point of birth.
00:32:23.000 They want to get rid of the partial birth abortion bans.
00:32:25.000 This is supported by like nobody.
00:32:27.000 It's less than 10% of the total population.
00:32:29.000 It's a minuscule number of people.
00:32:31.000 That's their agenda.
00:32:33.000 That's what we need to be talking about.
00:32:35.000 And we need to be clear when we go into states and when voters have the chance to vote, and I'm for that, by the way.
00:32:39.000 I mean, this is why Rogue getting overturned was so important.
00:32:42.000 Voters now actually can take this into their own hands.
00:32:46.000 And, you know, we've got to explain clearly what this is about.
00:32:48.000 We've got to explain what, listen, do you want babies dismembered in your state?
00:32:52.000 Do you want partial birth abortion to be forced on you?
00:32:54.000 Okay, if not, then you're going to need to change your laws or change your constitution.
00:32:58.000 Of course, that varies state by state.
00:32:59.000 In Missouri, we've got really strong pro-life laws.
00:33:01.000 But I just think that we shouldn't run from this.
00:33:04.000 We should be unabashedly pro-democracy, give this choice to the people and pro-life.
00:33:08.000 And lean in on it.
00:33:09.000 Senator Hawley from the great state of Missouri.
00:33:11.000 We need more like him, support him.
00:33:13.000 He's courageous, and I think he's helping build a Republican Party that's actually prepared to win in the future.
00:33:19.000 Senator Hawley, thank you so much.
00:33:21.000 Thank you, Charlie.
00:33:24.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
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