The Charlie Kirk Show - Marxism, Lockdowns, The Church, and the Attack on our College Campuses with Pastor Tom Hughes

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00:00:09.000 Hey, everybody, we are crisscrossing the country to help get the president re-elected.

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00:00:22.000 It's about 3.30 in the morning as we are finishing up all the editing and traveling for the day.

00:00:27.000 So we are happy to be able to air this incredible conversation that went viral online of my conversation at 412 Church in San Jacinto, California with Pastor Tom Hughes.

00:00:38.000 We talk about fascism, Marxism, Donald Trump, so many different topics.

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00:01:09.000 Buckle up, everybody.

00:01:10.000 Important episode in store.

00:01:12.000 Here we go.

00:01:14.000 We are lucky to have Charlie Kirk.

00:01:16.000 Charlie Kirk's running the White House.

00:01:18.000 But I want to thank Charlie.

00:01:20.000 His spirit, his love of this country.

00:01:20.000 He's an incredible guy.

00:01:22.000 He's done an amazing job.

00:01:24.000 We are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.

00:01:30.000 If you fit a specific type of dogma that fits their narrative, then you can have as big of a gathering as you want and you will not be enforced.

00:01:36.000 However, if you gather and assemble as people of God or as believers, all of a sudden they're able to use any sort of means necessary to shut you down, to intimidate you, and to silence you.

00:01:46.000 All the while, cannabis dispensaries remain open, abortion factories remain open, drugstores and liquor stores remain open, Lowe's and Home Depot remain open, yet people cannot assemble to be able to worship their God, be able to worship Jesus Christ, our Lord and Savior.

00:01:59.000 And this is not a victimless crime.

00:02:01.000 Suicides are on the way up, depression's on the way up, alcoholism, drug usage, domestic and sexual abuse.

00:02:06.000 People are yearning more than ever before for a great awakening.

00:02:09.000 The problem is you cannot have a fifth grade awakening if the church is not open.

00:02:12.000 The church is more than just a live stream.

00:02:14.000 We've had four great awakenings in this country, and all four have prevented us from going towards tyranny.

00:02:18.000 One actually led to the founding of our country.

00:02:20.000 The other one prevented us from breaking early on in the 1790s, early 1800s.

00:02:24.000 The other during the late early 1900s, late 1800s, and the fourth by Billy Graham in the 60s and 70s.

00:02:30.000 Every great awakening had something very obvious, was the capacity for As Jesus Christ said, on my rock, I'll build this church.

00:02:37.000 Ecclesia, the gathering of believers.

00:02:39.000 When you're nothing more than a YouTube live stream, you are basically surrendering to the secular leftists and saying, you know what?

00:02:46.000 What we have here doesn't matter.

00:02:47.000 We're just going to become a TED Talk between 10 to 11:30 Eastern.

00:02:50.000 We as Christians cannot tolerate this to ever happen again.

00:02:54.000 Continue to gather and continue to assemble.

00:02:57.000 Amen.

00:03:00.000 Amen.

00:03:02.000 So I have the feeling that's going to happen a lot this evening.

00:03:05.000 So with that, when I look at church and being friends with Jack and Tim Thompson and some others, James Cadiz, and looking at it, when I reason through the reason why we opened when we did, and just being shut for a few weeks, was when you look at the church, Hebrews chapter 10, verse 25, do not forsake the assembling together, which is what you were just talking about.

00:03:29.000 And all the more as you see the day approaching.

00:03:31.000 So the thought in my mind as a pastor and looking at prophetic things, because that's kind of what I do.

00:03:37.000 When I look at that, it appears to me we're watching the day approaching.

00:03:41.000 That is a commandment probably today for today more than any other time.

00:03:46.000 And the church is not, like, I was told constantly, Charlie, help me work through this, that it's okay to be a church at YouTube, your own biological, earthly family at home.

00:03:57.000 But that's not what the church is.

00:03:59.000 Church is a spiritual body getting together, a body of believers, as you mentioned, isn't it?

00:04:05.000 So the YouTube.

00:04:06.000 And the scriptures say, when two or more are gathered in my name, it says very clearly.

00:04:09.000 And also, let's just talk a very technical reason here.

00:04:12.000 Tonight, somebody is going to be able to find some fulfillment in the ecclesia, the gathering of believers.

00:04:18.000 Somebody in this room is going to talk to somebody else and they're going to say, how are you doing?

00:04:21.000 And someone might say, I'm not doing great.

00:04:22.000 And here's why.

00:04:23.000 And you know why?

00:04:24.000 Because church exists, someone will say, how can I help you?

00:04:26.000 When it's nothing more than a YouTube live stream, that kind of fellowship, that kind of social safety net, that kind of friends looking out for friends disappears and evaporates altogether.

00:04:33.000 You need that more than ever when you have 30 million people out of work, when you're in the midst of a crisis.

00:04:33.000 Guess what?

00:04:37.000 You need Christians supporting other believers.

00:04:40.000 And when you just say that is irrelevant, basically what you are doing, which a lot of these very weak pastors are doing, and I think they should all resign if they don't open their churches immediately.

00:04:48.000 All of them.

00:04:51.000 Is they're basically saying, I could say that you could smile because it's as clear as I could possibly make it.

00:04:58.000 This is outrageous.

00:05:00.000 Is basically what they are saying is that the church is nothing more than a 90-minute message.

00:05:06.000 And all of the other components of the church, the gathering, the counseling, the shepherding, the answers, the questioning can be fulfilled by the state or by government.

00:05:15.000 Make no mistake, this has been a diabolical multi-decade campaign to shut down the church.

00:05:20.000 They've wanted this for a very long time.

00:05:22.000 They're getting closer than ever to succeed.

00:05:23.000 And what's been very disappointing for me as a believer who's in politics and as someone who fights this every single day is how complicit and willing the church has been to go along with this.

00:05:34.000 It has been frustrating beyond I could possibly put into words of how these pastors have abdicated their, quite honestly, the commission.

00:05:42.000 I don't use that word lightly.

00:05:43.000 It's a very, very weighted word for pastors.

00:05:45.000 That commission to shepherd their flock correctly in a time of crisis.

00:05:49.000 And I can tell you this.

00:05:49.000 I run a podcast.

00:05:50.000 I do two podcasts a day, one on the weekend.

00:05:52.000 We do more podcasting than any other Christian conservative team out there.

00:05:56.000 And I get thousands of emails from young people that are saying, Charlie, because of you, I want to go back to church, but I can't.

00:06:01.000 And for the pastors out there that keep your doors closed, there's a young person that might not have committed suicide if you would have opened your church.

00:06:08.000 There's a young person that could have found the teachings of Jesus Christ if you would open your church.

00:06:12.000 I'll say one other thought on this.

00:06:13.000 They took the holiest day of the calendar away from us.

00:06:15.000 They took Easter Sunday.

00:06:16.000 And many pastors were okay with that.

00:06:18.000 And we should think to ourselves, how many people could have been in the kingdom of God?

00:06:21.000 How many people could have found Jesus Christ if we would have had the boldness and the conviction to open up our churches during that entire season?

00:06:28.000 And I get it early on.

00:06:29.000 We didn't know what we were dealing with.

00:06:30.000 I understand closing for a couple of weeks because based on all the experts and the prognosticators, we were dealing with something that very well could have wiped out our entire species based on how alarmist it was.

00:06:39.000 But God tells us very clearly to step with wisdom, James 1, 5, ask God for wisdom for which he gives generously.

00:06:46.000 And wisdom is the capacity to differentiate between foolishness and falsehoods and the correct path to move forward.

00:06:51.000 We say, oh, wow, here's the mortality rate.

00:06:53.000 Here's the case rate.

00:06:54.000 Maybe we can open the church and continue to gather and we'll do so responsibly.

00:06:57.000 And as we've got more data, we realized we could gather even bigger and bigger.

00:07:01.000 But this fact the church has gone into such this dogmatic position of this, where we are going to do whatever the state, local, and federal governments say, no matter what.

00:07:08.000 And it's even worse than that.

00:07:10.000 It's we might not even open until January or February, some of these churches have said, I think is a complete and total disgrace to what we are called to do as believers.

00:07:17.000 Well, amen.

00:07:19.000 And you said I'm a pastor, so I can't really laugh or agree with you, but I just did.

00:07:27.000 And Tim Thompson, you know this well.

00:07:29.000 We've talked a lot about this.

00:07:31.000 To me, this is one of the most troubling things that I have seen.

00:07:36.000 I'm still puzzled by how many, when I look at how many pastors just capitulated and still won't open their church.

00:07:42.000 There are, though.

00:07:42.000 It's ongoing.

00:07:43.000 This is not a past tense thing.

00:07:45.000 No, and they are talking about, you mentioned January or February.

00:07:48.000 I'm hearing not even opening up till possibly the end of 2021.

00:07:51.000 I'm thinking that you're already making that decision.

00:07:53.000 So where, what are you really doing as a pastor?

00:07:56.000 The other thing I see, and this is what I, a conviction that I feel, when I know business owners, whether they own restaurants or barbershops or spas or whatever it is that they own, these are people who are working hard, trying to make a living.

00:08:12.000 They're shut down.

00:08:12.000 And I feel if I can't even open as a church, when I have certain opportunities as a pastor to be able to open that they don't, they've got other issues with health departments and things like that.

00:08:23.000 I feel like, look, being open as a church strengthens the entire community when you do that.

00:08:28.000 Of course, yes.

00:08:29.000 And what's incredible is that what we're doing here tonight is actually, unlike a gym, is actually explicitly protected in the United States Constitution, where it's the free expression clause. 0.98

00:08:39.000 And the fact that these little micro-tyrants that run the California Department of Health think they can come in and start shutting us down. 0.57

00:08:45.000 There's a very explicit clause in them. 1.00

00:08:46.000 It only took us one amendment to get to it.

00:08:48.000 And you could tell them to go the other direction because we have a God-given right to be able to assemble.

00:08:52.000 And we're going to get into this tonight, but this is such an incredible step forward for humanity, what the United States of America did, which is recognizing that our rights are given to us by government, but by God.

00:09:03.000 In fact, we created government.

00:09:04.000 Government did not create us.

00:09:06.000 And this seems so obvious to us, right?

00:09:07.000 Like, of course.

00:09:08.000 No, no, actually, most of human history didn't have it that way.

00:09:10.000 Most of human history had where you were a serf that go fought other people's wars. 0.68

00:09:14.000 You lived through a 32, you probably died of typhus.

00:09:16.000 You may have a couple kids if you're lucky, and then your kids also fight in other people's wars, and you live an awful and miserable, brutish, and short life.

00:09:24.000 And then all of a sudden, the teachings of Jesus Christ spread all across the world.

00:09:27.000 This idea of individual rights, the idea of your individual necessity to atone for your sins and accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior.

00:09:35.000 And as a byproduct of that, because of the Great Awakening in the 1730s and 1740s, great questions were started to be asked.

00:09:41.000 It's like, wait a second, we're depraved by nature.

00:09:43.000 We're all rooted in original sin.

00:09:45.000 All of us are equal in how much we need Jesus.

00:09:48.000 Why are we continuing to take orders from this King George guy?

00:09:52.000 And Thomas Paine says, you're right.

00:09:54.000 And he wrote this amazing book called Common Sense, which really was just the gasoline on the fire that lit the entire American Revolution, where the founders of this country learned under Whitfield.

00:10:04.000 They learned under Jonathan Edwards.

00:10:05.000 And they heard these sermons from activist pastors that built this country where they were ready to be able to rebel against tyranny for the kingdom of God, for natural rights, liberty, and for freedom.

00:10:16.000 So what we're experiencing here is a very short moment in time, and we can screw it up.

00:10:20.000 And we're getting close to, by the way, we are close to losing this gift.

00:10:23.000 There is no guarantee that this thing is going to continue.

00:10:25.000 In fact, it's actually a greater guarantee this thing is going to deteriorate if you look at just what human beings are likely to do, which is to screw up good things we have been given.

00:10:33.000 Don't believe me, read the Old Testament.

00:10:34.000 It only happened about six times, right?

00:10:36.000 Which is basically you create the nation of Israel, you disobey God, you get scattered, you go into wilderness, then you reassemble yourself, you build the nation of God, then you disobey.

00:10:45.000 It's literally this endless cycle.

00:10:47.000 And that kind of feels like you're every day, doesn't it?

00:10:49.000 Where by 9 a.m., you're already so discombobulated, and then all of a sudden this beautiful covenant, Jesus Christ, comes and says, surrender yourself.

00:10:58.000 You are not enough, and that's okay.

00:10:59.000 I am king of the world, and accept me as your Lord and Savior.

00:11:02.000 Changed everything.

00:11:03.000 It is the ultimate game, James.

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00:12:21.000 While you were talking, just thinking about some of the things that you were sharing and the reality of how close I believe we really are to losing this freedom.

00:12:30.000 Still, with churches shutting down, if churches capitulated that easy, then what about the rest of the country and losing the freedoms that we have bothers me?

00:12:41.000 And with this, I want to define some terms because we're going to start going into some really difficult things for people to deal with right now.

00:12:50.000 You mentioned activist pastors from centuries past.

00:12:53.000 Right now, we're told, well, we can't do something like that.

00:12:57.000 Rob McCoy, Jack Kivs, Pastor Tim, James Gadifs, myself, other pastors around the country that are saying, wait, no, we're going to stand up.

00:13:05.000 We're going to open.

00:13:06.000 We're here to preach the gospel.

00:13:07.000 Don't tell us you can't sing.

00:13:09.000 But with that, you can be an activist for anything else except Jesus Christ.

00:13:14.000 So you look at this.

00:13:14.000 Yes.

00:13:16.000 Let's define some terms so everybody understands.

00:13:19.000 And people who might not understand yet, they'll get on page and then we're going to go for it.

00:13:23.000 So term fascism.

00:13:25.000 So fascism means bundle of sticks.

00:13:25.000 Sure.

00:13:27.000 It actually does.

00:13:28.000 No, if you actually look at the root term.

00:13:30.000 Yeah, no, you can look it up.

00:13:30.000 I did not know that.

00:13:31.000 So it does.

00:13:34.000 And so we get the idea.

00:13:36.000 What's actually happening in our country by the American left is much more fascist than it is socialist.

00:13:36.000 So it's really important.

00:13:41.000 And that's a really important thing.

00:13:42.000 Now, they're actually cousins to each other.

00:13:43.000 They're not opposite on the political spectrum.

00:13:46.000 Whatever they teach you in school, throw that away.

00:13:47.000 They're lying to you.

00:13:48.000 They're not like right-wing and left-wing.

00:13:50.000 Actually, the true political spectrum is absolute collectivist government control and respect of individual rights.

00:13:54.000 That's the true spectrum.

00:13:56.000 And this whole idea of right and left, and I use the left just interchangeably because it's very, we all understand what that means, but it's actually an inaccurate term if you look at an actual spectrum that is supposed to measure what is on the political continuum.

00:14:07.000 So what does that actually mean, fascism?

00:14:08.000 It means that government does not necessarily own the means of production, but government can control the livelihoods, freedoms, capacity, and decisions of a population.

00:14:17.000 And even more, so a really interesting example of this of fascism is exactly what is happening in this state when it comes to people of faith, if you dare disagree.

00:14:25.000 A sort of soft fascism is when 71% of people in our country feel as if they are going to lose their job if they speak their mind.

00:14:33.000 71% of people believe that.

00:14:34.000 That's fascism, right?

00:14:35.000 So it's using your incumbent advantage to be able to terrorize the weak or the innocent or the disadvantaged to conform to your ideology.

00:14:43.000 That's a fascist posture, right?

00:14:45.000 It's a little bit philosophically different than socialist, and I can get into the difference of that because we use these terms so often, but they're not dissimilar.

00:14:52.000 They both rely on the heavy hand of government to be able to effectuate social change.

00:14:57.000 So a very popular example of what a fascist would look like would be Benito Mussolini, for example.

00:15:02.000 Now, he's not dissimilar from Joseph Stalin, but he would nationalize the businesses to work for the benefit of the wealthy few.

00:15:09.000 In a lot of ways, that is exactly what the Democrat Party is trying to do in this country, where they want Amazon, Apple, Google, and Facebook to work for their benefit, not necessarily to eradicate it or nationalize it, which would be more of a socialist position, but they'd want to have this incumbent advantage of a corporate class that would benefit them.

00:15:26.000 And so fascism is, in some ways, not more dangerous, but it's more sneaky than socialism because fascism is very, and this is really, what's really interesting is we get accused of being fascist all the time, which is what it's incredibly Orwellian, which it's not just a lie, it's the opposite of the truth.

00:15:41.000 So let me tell you what I mean by Orwellian.

00:15:43.000 And I think it's really important we understand what this means.

00:15:46.000 So a lie is usually one to two to five degrees away from the truth.

00:15:50.000 Something called double speak, which George Orwell, an author from the 1940s, wrote the famous book 1984 on Animal Farm.

00:15:57.000 He came up with this new term called double-speaker, double-think.

00:16:00.000 So here's how it works.

00:16:01.000 If I come up to the pastor here, I say, Pastor, how many cookies have you been eating?

00:16:06.000 And let's say he ate 10 cookies.

00:16:08.000 He says, I ate three cookies.

00:16:09.000 That would be a lie.

00:16:11.000 Now, if I come up to him, I say, How many cookies have you eaten?

00:16:14.000 This is how double speak works.

00:16:15.000 How many cookies have you eaten? 0.75

00:16:16.000 He's cookies all over.

00:16:17.000 He's got crumbs all over his face.

00:16:19.000 He says, I haven't eaten any cookies.

00:16:21.000 You did.

00:16:22.000 No, no, no.

00:16:24.000 You're eating the cookies.

00:16:25.000 No, no, no.

00:16:25.000 I see you.

00:16:26.000 You ate the cookies, and you're also a racist, and your country's awful. 0.99

00:16:29.000 Like, no, I can see you eating the cookies. 0.98

00:16:32.000 And have any of you felt this recently?

00:16:34.000 Where you're as if you're the ones doing this?

00:16:36.000 You're the ones walking with masks and batons and hammering us over the head. 0.56

00:16:40.000 You're the one that is bludgeoning us. 0.96

00:16:41.000 And you're calling us fascists?

00:16:43.000 And it's the opposite of the truth.

00:16:45.000 And there's also a term called gaslighting.

00:16:47.000 I can get into gaslighting too, which is exactly what's happening in real time in our country.

00:16:51.000 It's a play that takes place in the 1880s, London, where a husband was manipulating his wife where he was turning down the light every evening.

00:16:59.000 And the wife said, Why is it getting darker?

00:17:01.000 And he said, You're losing your mind and it's not getting darker, right?

00:17:04.000 Is that you get that feeling every so often where you just see things incrementally changing? 1.00

00:17:08.000 And they're like, Oh, no, you're crazy.

00:17:10.000 Like, no, actually, I can see exactly what's happening in front of us. 0.83

00:17:13.000 And so that's the best way to define fascism.

00:17:16.000 Here's a really good rule: if you have to use a blunt force object to get someone to convince you of something, you probably have a bad argument.

00:17:23.000 Yeah.

00:17:24.000 Antifa is they go with.

00:17:30.000 Well, that's the Orwellian part of it, right?

00:17:32.000 So Antifa, they call themselves anti-fascist.

00:17:34.000 But it's not just a lie, it's the opposite of the truth.

00:17:37.000 I mean, they are the fascists.

00:17:38.000 They are the ones that are going out with before the mask craze. 0.95

00:17:42.000 They were always masks because only cowards don't want to show their true identity publicly.

00:17:45.000 If you're afraid of your face being shown, then you're afraid of actually the ideas that you espouse.

00:17:50.000 I think that in social media in particular, the rise of anonymous accounts has really been dangerous to our social discourse and to how we actually interact with each other.

00:17:58.000 Because if there's no accountability, people will do anything, right?

00:18:01.000 It's kind of that old thing: if you had an invisibility cloak, what would you do to somebody?

00:18:04.000 It's very, very dangerous from a moral perspective.

00:18:06.000 And so you look at Antifa, they say, oh, we're fighting against fascism. 0.98

00:18:10.000 And if you don't agree with us, we're going to bash you over the head.

00:18:13.000 And so let me just give you an example.

00:18:14.000 And if there's any moderates or Democrats watching this, I'm just going to walk you through this.

00:18:17.000 I was in the White House Thursday evening, and during the president's speech, I heard all these protesters outside.

00:18:23.000 And look, I fight the left.

00:18:24.000 I avoid the left.

00:18:25.000 I have been threatened by the left.

00:18:27.000 I have been chased off campuses off the left by Antifa.

00:18:30.000 I've been driven out of restaurants.

00:18:31.000 I have to walk around with security.

00:18:32.000 I know these people.

00:18:33.000 Okay.

00:18:34.000 So for me, I heard the protesting outside.

00:18:36.000 I was able to carefully avoid all these people.

00:18:38.000 However, I knew exactly what was about to happen and what the Washington, D.C. mayor was creating, which was 4,000 armed and masked vigilantes that would collide with the biggest donors, senators, and political connected individuals of the RNC.

00:18:53.000 And that's not going to end well, right?

00:18:55.000 And it didn't.

00:18:56.000 People got assaulted.

00:18:57.000 Senator Rand Paul got assaulted.

00:18:58.000 The activist media covered almost none of it.

00:19:00.000 Now, I just want you to imagine something.

00:19:02.000 I saw it firsthand.

00:19:03.000 I saw the mob.

00:19:03.000 I saw people getting hurt.

00:19:05.000 This is completely as factual as it can be.

00:19:08.000 I want you to imagine something.

00:19:09.000 I want you to imagine President Barack Obama giving a dress at the White House.

00:19:13.000 And 2,000 of his closest political people walk outside of the White House and 4,000 conservatives are waiting for those people and assault them and scream at them in the face and call them awful names and harass them and chase them through the streets.

00:19:25.000 Do you think anyone would tolerate that?

00:19:27.000 In fact, it would be so unspeakable in the moral conduct, right?

00:19:31.000 We would all have to have this decade-long apology tour and it would be known as the DC clash.

00:19:38.000 And yet this happened just a couple nights ago, and we just move on and we're used to it.

00:19:43.000 And I'm telling you right now, these people are trying to provoke a conflict in the streets of our country.

00:19:47.000 And it's not even a double standard.

00:19:49.000 That's not even fair to say.

00:19:50.000 But just do that thought exercise.

00:19:52.000 Could you imagine if we waited outside of events for Joe Biden and harassed these people and chased them home and assaulted them and threw objects at sitting U.S. senators instead of Senator Ram Paul?

00:20:01.000 Imagine if Senator Bernie Sanders was assaulted in the streets.

00:20:03.000 Do you think anyone would tolerate that?

00:20:05.000 In fact, it's Joe Biden and Kamala Harris and the entire Democrat Party that said it's a peaceful protest outside there.

00:20:10.000 Again, it's not just a lie.

00:20:11.000 It's the opposite of the truth.

00:20:13.000 And here's the dangerous part of this, and they know exactly what they're doing.

00:20:17.000 The left is trying to provoke us so far that they want a physical response in the streets.

00:20:21.000 And we're so decent and we're so reasonable, we're not giving them that.

00:20:25.000 In fact, they're the ones that are burning down our entire civilization, and they're now seeing themselves suffer electorally and politically because of it.

00:20:31.000 But make no mistake, Antifa is a very legitimate threat in our country.

00:20:34.000 They have basically taken over the cities of Seattle and Portland.

00:20:37.000 They are a domestic terror organization that is the opposite of anti-fascists. 0.89

00:20:41.000 They are the fascists.

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00:21:51.000 It's disturbing to me to watch what's happening.

00:21:55.000 And I want to ask you a little bit more about the polls and what you believe is really going on.

00:21:59.000 I'm going to ask you in a minute what happens if Trump doesn't get elected.

00:22:04.000 Then I'm going to ask you what happens if Biden gets elected.

00:22:07.000 But before we go there, a few more terms.

00:22:10.000 I'm going to throw these all together because there's similarities.

00:22:12.000 Marxism, communism, socialism.

00:22:15.000 I could take two-hour lectures on some of these things.

00:22:19.000 I'm going to start loading up questions.

00:22:21.000 So Marxism, obviously going back to the author of Marxism, Karl Marx himself, wrote the Communist Manifesto, which was an economic analysis that was basically rooted in the idea of zero-sum game economics.

00:22:21.000 No, you got it.

00:22:21.000 Okay.

00:22:33.000 It's such a fallacious idea.

00:22:35.000 This is really interesting. 1.00

00:22:36.000 If I had kind of one walkaway homework assignment for Christians, it is know the laws of economics really well.

00:22:41.000 And just as there's laws of nature, there's laws of physics, laws of thermodynamics, there's laws of economics too.

00:22:47.000 And one of the laws of economics is that in trade, it's not a zero-sum game.

00:22:50.000 And one person might get slightly more of an advantage, but when you trade with somebody, it's actually mutually beneficial.

00:22:54.000 We know this.

00:22:55.000 It's part of the laws of economics.

00:22:56.000 Karl Marx rejected this altogether.

00:22:58.000 He believed that if someone ever got richer in any sort of transaction, it inherently meant that someone got poorer. 0.97

00:23:03.000 This is a foolish argument.

00:23:05.000 This is something that he observed incorrectly, and he wrote an entire economic thesis about it. 0.87

00:23:09.000 Karl Marx also believes something that is very, very dangerous.

00:23:12.000 And this is where I get really upset with a lot of Republican politicians because we're missing the whole part, the whole kind of the point here, which is what's happening in our country right now is a conversation on human nature.

00:23:22.000 So who are we in the state of nature?

00:23:24.000 Are we good or are we bad?

00:23:26.000 That's actually what's happening right now in real time in our country.

00:23:29.000 So if you believe the Bible, it took us like 15 verses to screw it up, right?

00:23:34.000 So we know we're awful by nature, okay?

00:23:36.000 We rebel against God.

00:23:37.000 In fact, the entire Bible is trying to reconcile and solve that problem.

00:23:40.000 The only way you solve it is through total and complete surrender and acceptance of Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior, right?

00:23:46.000 However, Karl Marx disagreed with this.

00:23:49.000 So Karl Marx disagreed with the Hobbesian view of nature.

00:23:52.000 And if you guys ever know the comic Calvin and Hobbes, it's always kind of very dark humor.

00:23:57.000 It's called Calvin and Hobbes because John Calvin and Thomas Hobbes both had the same view of human nature, which is that humans in a state of nature, it's nasty, nasty, brutish, and short.

00:24:04.000 They're actually really awful to each other, more awful to each other than we could ever possibly imagine.

00:24:08.000 So that's actually why the comic is called that.

00:24:10.000 And so, however, Karl Marx and the left today, they believe human beings are wonderful in the state of nature.

00:24:17.000 They do not believe in original sin.

00:24:19.000 It's a rejection of the Bible.

00:24:20.000 It's rejection of everything that all of us as Christians know from a basis starting point, right?

00:24:24.000 I mean, even before we can get to Christ, think about it, though.

00:24:27.000 If we're all good by nature, why do you need Jesus?

00:24:29.000 Right? 0.57

00:24:30.000 And so here's what really upset me about Christianity in this amazing moment. 0.78

00:24:33.000 You guys have seized this opportunity.

00:24:34.000 Most churches haven't.

00:24:35.000 In this time of national chaos, we could have used this as an educational tool to tell people why Jesus is necessary.

00:24:41.000 And we miss this opportunity.

00:24:42.000 It's like, you're not going to perfect human beings.

00:24:45.000 In fact, we're incredibly awful. 0.90

00:24:47.000 We're so depraved.

00:24:48.000 The only solution is Jesus Christ.

00:24:50.000 What a great teaching moment.

00:24:51.000 And we just completely blew it, like totally blew it.

00:24:53.000 Where we're like, okay, you know what?

00:24:55.000 If we get rid of police, then we can be better to each other.

00:24:56.000 Like, what kind of crazy idea is this?

00:24:58.000 Who are you?

00:25:00.000 And it's like these pastors are taking knees for BLM.

00:25:02.000 Like, resign.

00:25:03.000 Go away.

00:25:04.000 And it's outrageous.

00:25:04.000 No.

00:25:06.000 I'll get to that in a second.

00:25:06.000 It's so outrageous.

00:25:07.000 And so Marx thought that human beings were wonderful by nature.

00:25:11.000 And he agreed.

00:25:12.000 He actually was piggybacking off of a thinker.

00:25:14.000 I don't want to get too deep in the philosophy here, but actually it's really important.

00:25:18.000 I think you guys enjoy it.

00:25:19.000 By a thinker kind of Jean-Jacques Rousseau, who really, this is what he argued.

00:25:22.000 I prefer the primitive over the civilized, the infant over the adult, the passionate lover over the calm, loyal spouse.

00:25:30.000 That was his entire thinking.

00:25:32.000 They call it romanticism.

00:25:33.000 And I don't even like that term because it's too much of a nice term on a completely evil idea, quite honestly.

00:25:39.000 And that's what's happening right now.

00:25:40.000 So why is it that some people really believe to abolish the police?

00:25:45.000 Why do they want that?

00:25:46.000 Because they actually think that it's the system that is making people do bad things.

00:25:51.000 No, this is a real thing.

00:25:52.000 Your children are learning this in school, whether they know it or not.

00:25:55.000 It's in all of our universities.

00:25:57.000 Most of the media believes this.

00:25:58.000 So this is exactly what's happening here.

00:26:00.000 It's actually good versus evil and light versus dark in real form.

00:26:03.000 And again, the church has been so blind or miseducated to realize their role in this conversation.

00:26:09.000 If you believe human beings are good by nature, then your commandment is to destroy the society around you, and then you think that good will come.

00:26:20.000 If you think human beings are bad by nature, it's trying to punish the evil, teach the good, and incentivize the good.

00:26:27.000 That's what we've done in the West, and we've done it really, really well.

00:26:30.000 And yet now we're trying to disassemble all that because they think they can bring about heaven on earth, which is the end of the communist manifesto.

00:26:36.000 It's the end of Marx's teaching, which we don't talk about enough.

00:26:40.000 We talk about total government control and all this, but Marx, at the end of his book, he talked about a stateless heaven on earth.

00:26:47.000 He believes that it can be achieved, which is a sin in and of itself to believe that we can create heaven here on earth, but we can get really close to hell.

00:26:54.000 Hell is a bottomless pit.

00:26:56.000 It's really true.

00:26:56.000 We can be really, really awful to each other, mostly under the guise of Marxism.

00:27:00.000 So it's important that we understand exactly what's going on here.

00:27:03.000 This is not high taxes versus low taxes.

00:27:05.000 This is not socialized health care and private health care.

00:27:07.000 I'm happy to talk about all those sorts of things.

00:27:09.000 It's not insignificant.

00:27:10.000 What it really is right now is do you accept original sin?

00:27:13.000 Yes or no? 1.00

00:27:14.000 And if the answer is no, you're a fool because it's just so easy to explain. 0.99

00:27:20.000 I mean, if you ever have a child, you can see, I mean, you ever teach a kid to lie? 0.99

00:27:23.000 Of course you don't.

00:27:24.000 They lie anyway.

00:27:25.000 It's built into their DNA.

00:27:26.000 We're fallen by nature.

00:27:27.000 You ever teach a kid to lie and put one parent against each other?

00:27:30.000 No.

00:27:31.000 They just know it instinctively.

00:27:32.000 But you have to teach them goodness.

00:27:34.000 You have to teach them how to be good.

00:27:35.000 You have to instruct them in the ways, and it's a daily exercise.

00:27:38.000 And so this is a very important starting point, and we've missed it.

00:27:43.000 And I think it's actually, in my opinion, the Galatians 3 model right now, which is the laws as school teacher of Christ, where we are going to bring more people to the kingdom of God by just basically starting Genesis 1 through 10, basically.

00:27:55.000 Cain and Abel, Adam and Eve, what are the basics of who we are on this planet?

00:27:59.000 And then you have the agree upon problems, then we can fast forward to Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John.

00:28:03.000 And I'm not saying the rest of the Old Testament is irrelevant, but what we're having right here is a complete and total repudiation and rejection in our country of what built our country, which is an acceptance of Genesis 1 through 10.

00:28:14.000 And if we deviate away from that, and all of a sudden then we make the argument for them that church is not essential, Jesus might not be that important, and salvation might not be that important.

00:28:23.000 So we have failed that argument.

00:28:24.000 We have to reassert ourselves.

00:28:25.000 And that's where the communists have really seized themselves in our society right now.

00:28:29.000 Yeah.

00:28:30.000 I look at this from the biblical standpoint and what the Bible does inform us is coming. 0.56

00:28:35.000 I believe in the near future when you start looking at the tribulation judgments.

00:28:40.000 And for anybody who's not familiar with the prophecies in the Bible about what's coming in Revelation chapter six, there's prophecies about what's called the four horsemen of the apocalypse.

00:28:51.000 You have the white horse, which represents this peacemaker.

00:28:54.000 You have the red horse, which represents war.

00:28:56.000 You have a black horse, which represents a radical imbalance of all of the world.

00:29:02.000 And when you look at it and you study it, you have a few elite people at the top that are doing well.

00:29:10.000 And you have everybody else is made equal, but they're made equally poor.

00:29:15.000 In Revelation chapter 6, it says, when the judgment comes, it's a day's wage for a loaf of bread, but do not harm the oil or the wine.

00:29:23.000 Hence, the elite at the top are doing fine.

00:29:26.000 Everybody else is at the bottom.

00:29:28.000 But that really describes the direction of what you're talking about, doesn't it?

00:29:34.000 And that's the trajectory of what we're on.

00:29:34.000 It does.

00:29:36.000 So in times of crisis, trends that were already pre-existing accelerate.

00:29:39.000 And so, for example, this is why you've seen the wealthiest people in this country add $200 billion to the net worth over the last couple of months.

00:29:46.000 And that's why you see the poorest individuals and the working class Americans have gone more into debt and are struggling more.

00:29:52.000 So whatever trends are happening before a crisis, a crisis is nothing more than an accelerant behind it, right?

00:29:57.000 And so what you're seeing right now in this country from economic terms and also from material terms is very, very troubling.

00:30:04.000 And this is one of the reasons why it's so imperative to get the president re-elected, because if you do not have a vibrant or sustainable middle class in a country, the entire civilization will be overturned.

00:30:14.000 It's that simple.

00:30:15.000 If you do not have what Aristotle calls the golden mean, right, which is the middle, it's almost like Goldilocks and the three bears, like too hot, too cold, just perfect, right?

00:30:23.000 It's the best way I can explain it in simple terms, where it's just people that are right in the middle income, that have three to four kids, that don't have to go into debt, they believe in your society, they don't commit crimes, they live a good and ethical life.

00:30:35.000 Those are the people that if all of a sudden they no longer have a belief in your system, the system will be completely and totally revolutionized quicker than you could possibly imagine.

00:30:44.000 And there's been a lot of reasons for this.

00:30:47.000 And I could get into the political elite reasons, but one of the major reasons, and this is really what's happening in our country right now, is we're getting much closer.

00:30:54.000 We're not getting close to socialism yet.

00:30:56.000 In some ways, we are in a state and local level, but more nationally, we're getting much closer to a kleptocratic government, which is a government by the few, the wealthy, the well-connected, and the elites.

00:31:05.000 And that's a very, very dangerous way to go.

00:31:07.000 It's called a kleptocracy.

00:31:09.000 And that's in some ways, I don't want to say more dangerous than socialism because I wouldn't make that argument, but it is also very dangerous.

00:31:17.000 When I look at the government at the last days, that is really a government that is described there also.

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00:33:00.000 So what happens if Trump is not re-elected and Biden is elected?

00:33:07.000 Work this out a little bit further.

00:33:08.000 So, I mean, we game it out.

00:33:09.000 I mean, if Biden wins this election in November, which I think the president has done a great job of narrowing the gap.

00:33:16.000 All the polling reflects it.

00:33:17.000 All of our experience on the ground reflects it.

00:33:19.000 I'm happy to talk about that.

00:33:20.000 I'm also happy to talk about why Christians should support Donald Trump, and I'm happy to build that out by someone who actually knows the president, not just someone who talks on TV professionally about someone they've never met.

00:33:29.000 So I'm happy to talk about that.

00:33:31.000 So, but look, if Joe Biden wins, here's something that's very important.

00:33:34.000 And people ask me all the time, and I got this from the great Dennis Prager, and he said it in passing.

00:33:39.000 And it was such an amazing thing that he said that I just keep on repeating.

00:33:44.000 Where people say all the time, Charlie, do you think we're going to win or lose?

00:33:47.000 And I know you're not asking because of this, but some people ask because they kind of want the betting odds and they kind of want to hedge their own involvement.

00:33:56.000 And they're kind of being like, if you think we're going to lose, can I be a little less involved?

00:34:01.000 Can I, can I, if you think we're going to lose, I can kind of go back to my life.

00:34:05.000 The probability of victory is no excuse for your involvement.

00:34:08.000 It actually is completely and totally irrelevant to how hard you fight for truth.

00:34:11.000 It's completely irrelevant.

00:34:12.000 Whether you think you're it's true.

00:34:15.000 And we can kind of, as Christians, we can kind of reverse engineer this because we know ultimate victory.

00:34:20.000 We know how this game ends, right?

00:34:22.000 We know how it all plays out.

00:34:23.000 So therefore, there's no excuse at all whatsoever not to contest for truth and not to fight for what is right and for what is good and what is pure in this world.

00:34:30.000 And so if Biden wins, and I'm just, I'm just going to, I'm not trying to be alarmist or instill fear, but you're going to have a group of people take over our government that will truly try to execute a plan that will come after every single one, every single person in this room, every person that believes in the Bible, that is conservative, that owns firearms.

00:34:48.000 You will have the most radical administration in American history.

00:34:52.000 They will close down the embassy in Jerusalem.

00:34:54.000 They'll give the Golan Heights back to Syria. 0.58

00:34:55.000 They'll reinstate the Iran deal. 0.76

00:34:57.000 They'll open up the southern border completely and totally.

00:35:01.000 They will do nothing against child sex trafficking because Obama did nothing against it for eight years.

00:35:06.000 They will allow the absolute legalization of every single drug you can imagine around the country.

00:35:10.000 They're going to confiscate your firearms.

00:35:12.000 They'll have younger, more radical versions of Ruth Bader Ginsburg on every single court of every single level that you could possibly imagine.

00:35:17.000 They're going to use executive power and destroy the filibuster, 51 votes in the Senate, put forth Medicare for all, Green New Deal, Amnesty for Illegal Aliens, everything you could possibly imagine done in almost 10 seconds or less.

00:35:28.000 And that's just going to be the starting 90 days.

00:35:30.000 So I'm not saying that is alarmist.

00:35:32.000 That's just, that's what they're telling us they're going to do.

00:35:34.000 This is their publicly declared game plan.

00:35:37.000 And so, if that's not conviction enough for every single person watching this, which is thousands of people and every person here, to fight with everything you possibly have to contest for truth right here and right now in our country, my goodness.

00:35:49.000 I mean, we have an opportunity right now to support a president that did move the embassy, recognized the Golan Heights, repealed the Iran deal, Gorsuch Kavanaugh, 200 circuit court judges, securing the southern border, arresting child sex traffickers, defending people of faith.

00:36:02.000 Most pro-life president in American history, by the way, most pro-life president in American history.

00:36:08.000 I think we have a moral obligation to support that fighter.

00:36:10.000 Amen.

00:36:11.000 Absolutely.

00:36:12.000 It's like when Jesus talks to his disciples about praying and why pray, and your heavenly father already knows what you have, what your needs are, but ask him anyways.

00:36:26.000 In the same way with righteousness, listen, I can read the Bible and I know that there's bad stuff coming, but I also know at the end, Jesus wins, and this is going to be fantastic.

00:36:36.000 And right now, we don't know what tomorrow holds.

00:36:39.000 I mean, there could be a great revival, there could be a great awakening.

00:36:42.000 I did receive a couple of questions just a minute ago about California.

00:36:45.000 Now, you don't live in California, but you look at California, and as California goes, they say, so goes the nation.

00:36:51.000 Well, it's funny.

00:36:52.000 I think that Gavin Newsom is going to have an arrest warrant out for me soon because everywhere I go, I keep drawing big crowds.

00:36:56.000 So I think that she's applauding that I'm going to get arrested.

00:37:01.000 Actually, it'd probably be really good for my career, actually.

00:37:05.000 I think that if Gavin Newsom decides to put me in jail, it'd probably be really interesting.

00:37:10.000 So, California, look, I mean, again, the probability of victory shouldn't be a reason for your involvement.

00:37:16.000 I think that's a really important thing.

00:37:17.000 And so, I mean, would you want something to comment on something particular in California?

00:37:21.000 Yeah, it was with all the people moving out of California.

00:37:24.000 Which direction do you see this going?

00:37:24.000 Yeah, I mean, that's a real question.

00:37:26.000 It looks like New York is mostly conservatives.

00:37:28.000 You're in Arizona, right?

00:37:29.000 Yeah, stop coming.

00:37:31.000 We're going to build a wall and support all of you.

00:37:34.000 I've heard that's going to be, it seems to be conservative.

00:37:37.000 It's ruining everything.

00:37:39.000 It's one of the most perplexing things I've ever.

00:37:40.000 I mean, there's some things that really confound me and really, really confuse me, which is you go leave a socialist wasteland to go create another socialist wasteland.

00:37:48.000 Like, I just can't understand that.

00:37:50.000 Like, oh, we hate this place, too high taxes.

00:37:51.000 Let's go vote for more high taxes and for awful things.

00:37:54.000 He just left that.

00:37:55.000 That puzzles me.

00:37:56.000 I look and go, okay, so San Francisco has been ruined by the people who voted for the things that they're doing.

00:38:01.000 And they come to Scottsdale and they go vote for the exact same thing.

00:38:04.000 And that's what they do.

00:38:05.000 And then they wonder why it ends up that way.

00:38:07.000 No, I mean, this definition of insanity, I think, isn't it?

00:38:09.000 It's something like that.

00:38:10.000 I mean, it's the definition of the left, which is exactly that, which is don't think, just feel and go in the world and destroy everything.

00:38:16.000 And so it's what the left does.

00:38:17.000 So in Scottsdale, I mean, seriously, homelessness on the way up, drug abuse, all these things.

00:38:21.000 I feel like it's an incubation of San Francisco happening.

00:38:24.000 And I mean, it's just that they will destroy everything they touch.

00:38:28.000 Yeah.

00:38:29.000 David Horowitz said recently on Front Page Magazine: today our nation is facing the most serious threat to establish such a tyranny in our entire history.

00:38:40.000 And I look at what's happening right now when coronavirus started.

00:38:44.000 There's a lot of concerns about it.

00:38:46.000 So, you know, most of us just said, hey, let's go along with the concerns.

00:38:50.000 But we were told here in California, I believe it was a two, you're going to need to shut down for two or three weeks.

00:38:56.000 About that, right?

00:38:57.000 Something very similar to what Daniel was told in the book of Daniel, hey, Daniel, you can't worship the Lord for, I think it was one month or 30 days or something like that.

00:39:07.000 Very similar to that.

00:39:08.000 Daniel goes and says, no, we're going to worship the Lord.

00:39:10.000 So this started back in March.

00:39:12.000 Here we are, six months later, seven months later, and we're still in this.

00:39:15.000 And they're still trying to tell us that you can't do these things.

00:39:19.000 Now, I want you to talk on the real pandemic.

00:39:22.000 In the beginning of August, I believe 8,000 people in the entire state of California had died of coronavirus with inflated numbers and manipulated numbers, I might say.

00:39:32.000 At the same time, I believe 50,000 babies have been aborted in the same time.

00:39:38.000 And you look at that, and I look at the Old Testament.

00:39:41.000 You brought up, you brought up the book of Judges.

00:39:43.000 I look at the Old Testament, and Israel was judged, and Judah were judged. 0.81

00:39:48.000 One of the main sins they had was sacrificing babies on the arms of Molech and killing them. 0.88

00:39:55.000 And when I look at abortion and what the reality of this, look, I know there's forgiveness for any sin that anybody commits. 0.98

00:40:01.000 I totally get that.

00:40:02.000 But at the same time, we got to face the reality of where we are, and we got to stand up for righteousness.

00:40:07.000 And churches have not stood up for this.

00:40:10.000 Oh, my goodness.

00:40:10.000 I mean, the American church, and I say that broadly, I don't mean you guys.

00:40:13.000 You know what I mean?

00:40:14.000 I mean institutional Christianity.

00:40:16.000 And yeah, you get it. 0.79

00:40:18.000 And they were very quick to go follow BLM Incorporated, which wants the destruction of the Western prescribed nuclear family, abolishing prisons and abolishing police, while many churches within the Southern California area were telling their congregants to go march and go on the streets and post-black squares. 0.69

00:40:32.000 Yet, very interestingly enough, they didn't do anything on Sanctity of Life Sunday at all, where we have 1 million abortions a year in this country, 1 million abortions a year.

00:40:39.000 And if you can't get that issue right, if you can't defend the people that can't defend themselves, what other sins are you allowing to happen in your society?

00:40:46.000 And the answer is quite a lot.

00:40:47.000 It is a tributary from all things go.

00:40:49.000 I mean, if you cannot get that very basic thing, which is life, the defense of the innocent.

00:40:53.000 And you make a very interesting point, and it's something that's actually not talked about a lot, which is there's a very, very disturbing trend amongst ancient civilizations and child sacrifice.

00:41:02.000 It's very weird.

00:41:03.000 And if you go into Aztec and Mayan culture and Incan culture, Egyptian culture, it was not a rarity that for whatever reason, and you guys can fill in the blanks for your own conclusion of that, that this is not some sort of newfound thing that we came across.

00:41:17.000 In fact, when we actually did excavation, we being the Westerners, excavation in Greek and Roman times, underneath some of what they consider the bathhouses, we have discovered massive mass graves of babies where they used to sacrifice young children en mosque.

00:41:32.000 So this is not some sort of new thing.

00:41:35.000 And you guys can fill in the gaps as to why that is.

00:41:37.000 I think there's a very, very specific spiritual reason for this.

00:41:40.000 However, if you're not going to contest for those that can't fight for themselves, then I think you should shut down your church, to be perfectly honest with you, because it's that simple.

00:41:48.000 It is such an I mean, I have these churches, first of all, I deal with some of these pastors and they're like, oh, it's actually Jesus was pro-choice. 0.91

00:41:55.000 There are some things that are so beyond foolish, not even worthy of engaging with. 0.92

00:41:58.000 That would be one of them. 0.83

00:41:59.000 In fact, I would just love to have the film debate against some of those people because I could definitely make sure a couple of hundred million people see it.

00:42:05.000 Because it's just such a wrong thing to say.

00:42:07.000 It's just, it's so pathologically untrue.

00:42:09.000 But some of these churches are like, well, I don't want to offend my congregation.

00:42:11.000 I say, wait a second.

00:42:12.000 I say, the whole point about most people are going to hell, that doesn't offend people.

00:42:19.000 I mean, and this is really what it stems from.

00:42:21.000 It stems from bad theology.

00:42:23.000 And let's just be very honest.

00:42:24.000 Poor theology, weak theology, feel-good Christianity, which is TED Talk with rock and roll concert and lots of lights, skinny jeans, looking into the YouTube live channel.

00:42:32.000 Everyone loves me.

00:42:33.000 I spent two hours editing an Instagram picture. 0.82

00:42:36.000 That kind of entire cultural Christianity that's been created in a lot of different ways has prevented Christians from contesting for what is right and for what is good. 0.76

00:42:45.000 And so let's just, if we are honest with ourselves, one million abortions a year in this country. 0.63

00:42:49.000 California leads the entire country in abortions by far.

00:42:52.000 It's not even close.

00:42:53.000 And so we have to ask ourselves, what are we doing to actually help solve that issue?

00:42:57.000 Not even an issue.

00:42:58.000 It's a moral crisis.

00:42:59.000 And I always say this every time I talk about abortion.

00:43:00.000 I want to be very clear.

00:43:01.000 For young women out there that have had abortions or any women out there, I am not condemning you.

00:43:06.000 I am not making, I am not going after you at all whatsoever.

00:43:10.000 That is a personal struggle that I don't even want to get into.

00:43:14.000 I believe you've been manipulated.

00:43:16.000 That's what I'm really trying to say.

00:43:17.000 I think that the abortionists lie to young women and they do so in predatory fashion where most young women are not given the opportunity to see an ultrasound and they don't know what they're doing, most young women.

00:43:25.000 And so I think we in the pro-life movement have to do a much better job of having a bridge of compassion to the women that have had abortion, to the abortionists or the abortion doctors, not even close.

00:43:37.000 They know exactly what they're doing.

00:43:39.000 They are the ones that are going into these operating rooms and they are doing things that are so unspeakably evil.

00:43:44.000 So I think that we as Christians need to really be honest about that because young women that have had abortions, they're far more likely to commit suicide.

00:43:51.000 They have mental health issues that are beyond discussing physical, spiritual damage for the rest of their life.

00:43:56.000 But if we can't get that one issue right, the defense of babies that cannot defend themselves, it starts to explain a lot of the other moral confusion that we have all across our country and culture.

00:44:13.000 For me, I praise the Lord.

00:44:15.000 I see a few people out here this evening that have ministries to ladies that have had an abortion, whether they are younger or older.

00:44:23.000 I've talked to ladies that are 60 or 70 years old that had abortion 50 years ago and hurting all of their life.

00:44:31.000 There's forgiveness, but at the same time, God forgives anybody of any sins.

00:44:37.000 Jesus will not cast out anybody who comes to him.

00:44:39.000 But at the same time, I look at the church and Charlie, I can go back decades and see when the church started to get away from the Bible and started to get away from the truth.

00:44:50.000 Not standing up for the church, the God in schools when those options were on the table.

00:44:59.000 You can go all the way back to evolution.

00:45:00.000 I mean, there's so many different things you can go, but where was the church?

00:45:04.000 So now here we are, the church.

00:45:06.000 A TED Talk with a rock and roll concert, I think, is the perfect description of where we have ended up.

00:45:12.000 So when it comes to the church being effective in society and effective in culture, how can it be if the depth of the Bible was never taught?

00:45:21.000 Well, look, the word of God is timeless, and God works in mysterious ways.

00:45:26.000 So I've been really studying the great awakenings in this country, and all four of them are very unique.

00:45:31.000 They all have their own different reasons why they came up.

00:45:34.000 The first one, led mostly by Jonathan Edwards, who gave probably the most famous sermon in American history, Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God.

00:45:40.000 And I encourage you guys all to read that tonight.

00:45:42.000 It's just as applicable than it is today, which I just think calls the timelessness and the timelyness of the Bible.

00:45:48.000 It's both timelessness and timely.

00:45:50.000 Isn't that amazing?

00:45:50.000 How you have a book?

00:45:51.000 The more you read it, it reads you.

00:45:52.000 It's just awesome.

00:45:53.000 So I encourage you guys to check that out.

00:45:55.000 And by the way, the Bible should be taught in every single school across the country, bar none, and they should be stripped of all their funding if they don't teach the testimony.

00:46:02.000 And I advocate for that.

00:46:03.000 We should never fund a school if it does not teach the Bible because it's a historical document as much as it is a religious document. 0.92

00:46:10.000 And just acting as if this book doesn't exist is actually allowing your A-religious viewpoint to actually act as a religion in our schools. 0.70

00:46:18.000 And so you asked a question about what Christians can do.

00:46:22.000 It's a really interesting thing.

00:46:23.000 I actually think that the law is going to be a school teacher to Christ as it tells us in Galatians 3, that we are actually of an opportunity.

00:46:31.000 Every awakening is different.

00:46:33.000 I have a contrarian view.

00:46:34.000 Most mainstream pastors will completely disagree with this, but hear me out here.

00:46:39.000 I actually think that we have young people in particular that are going through a crisis right now, a crisis of meaning, a crisis of direction, a crisis of responsibility.

00:46:49.000 And I actually think that before we're actually able to teach the gospel, we have to get back to that elemental question of are you flawed by nature or not?

00:46:57.000 And I actually think the law and very specific steps of obedience to the law will point people to Christ.

00:47:04.000 I think it's different than other awakenings in the past, where Billy Graham's awakening in the 60s and 70s was very dominant on grace, which was really good.

00:47:12.000 It was the message for the time.

00:47:13.000 I actually think now that we have people living in a state of absolute chaos and misery, a lot of young people, I think if you're able to give them very specific, not very specific biblical truths of how they can reorient their life and aim themselves out and then show them the true path that they should focus at, I think we're on the verge of a great awakening.

00:47:32.000 However, this is something that most institutional Christianity disagrees with because that actually involves politics and it involves civics and it involves governmental interaction.

00:47:40.000 So what I'm actually saying, again, mind you, it is something that is not well held.

00:47:44.000 I actually think that politics and correct civic engagement can point more people to Christ than ever before.

00:47:52.000 And I see it happen every single day where I have young people that interact with me that are secular, that have never come into a church.

00:47:59.000 As the great pastor Rob McCoy would say, never darken the doors of a church.

00:48:02.000 And yet they hear my podcast, they agree with me politically, and all of a sudden they want to know the source of that liberty.

00:48:08.000 They want to know where this all came from.

00:48:11.000 And I say, that's easy.

00:48:12.000 With the Spirit of the Lord, there is liberty.

00:48:15.000 We have freedom from sin from Jesus Christ.

00:48:18.000 And there's something, as we know, there's something that happens there that can only be explained by the Holy Spirit where people are now giving their lives to Christ because I was able to explain an organized governmental civic and behavioral thinking that is rooted in a law that points them to Christ.

00:48:34.000 So I think there's a great opportunity here.

00:48:36.000 And I think the church, as we get more involved in politics, as we get more involved in civics, I think we're going to have more conversions and a great awakening, the likes of which we can never anticipate in this country, which is the opposite of what most of the institutional pastors would lead to.

00:48:50.000 I love hearing that.

00:48:51.000 I'm finding that people that I've known for a long time never, we get along, but they never wanted to talk about the Bible, wouldn't bring up the things that I like talking about.

00:49:01.000 Certainly not Bible prophecy.

00:49:03.000 Atheists, agnostics, and on down the list are actually asking me questions now.

00:49:09.000 And I think that is just absolutely fantastic when I see that happening from the spiritual perspective.

00:49:16.000 Now, you look like you're going to say something.

00:49:18.000 No, I mean, I just want to say for anyone out there that's watching on the live stream that's secular or atheist, thank you for watching this, by the way.

00:49:25.000 And this is a really interesting thing because we have to look at people that do believe in nothing or at least that are agnostic as opportunists, opportunities to be able to bring people into the kingdom of God.

00:49:37.000 And I think that there's a great opportunity here in our country and in the kingdom to be able to communicate to young people that have been sold atheism as a religion.

00:49:47.000 And it's very interesting.

00:49:48.000 And this is the truth.

00:49:49.000 I travel more college campuses than anyone else.

00:49:52.000 I've been to Stanford.

00:49:52.000 I've been to Brown.

00:49:53.000 I've been to UCLA.

00:49:54.000 I've been to Berkeley.

00:49:55.000 The fastest growing religion in America is atheism.

00:49:58.000 And atheism is a religion.

00:50:00.000 It's not the lack of a religion.

00:50:01.000 They have a unified belief.

00:50:03.000 They evangelize.

00:50:03.000 They proselytize.

00:50:04.000 They meet with regularity.

00:50:06.000 They are a religion.

00:50:07.000 And it's actually a religion that, if you play it out, is something that is a crisis of meaning.

00:50:13.000 And it's very, very depressing because it's a belief in nothingness.

00:50:16.000 And so we have hope.

00:50:17.000 We have love.

00:50:18.000 We have a gospel to share where there is a creator and a heavenly father that loved you enough to create you in his image.

00:50:24.000 And he sent his son to be able to believe that you can have eternal life.

00:50:27.000 And that is the sweetest gift we can give people.

00:50:29.000 And I think, and this is something that I'm so saddened about, though, is that on college campuses, the Christian groups are nowhere to be found.

00:50:36.000 In fact, they cower and they hide and they have their five little people that meet.

00:50:40.000 It's the atheist groups that are the most vocal, that are the most bold.

00:50:43.000 And so this is where I think that we have a great opportunity to be able to get into this marketplace and contest for the truth of the Bible, the existence of God, and of course, his son, Jesus.

00:50:53.000 Amen.

00:50:54.000 With that, there's a lot of intimidation, which I think happens within the universities.

00:50:59.000 You have professors that are, many of them are Marxists.

00:51:04.000 They'll tell you they're Marxists.

00:51:06.000 Or they'll hide it and still, they're teaching it.

00:51:09.000 So there's intimidation in the classrooms.

00:51:11.000 And then there's physical intimidation also.

00:51:14.000 So you put these things together, then we throw in BLM.

00:51:19.000 So Black Lives Matter.

00:51:20.000 The movement, right?

00:51:22.000 I always call it BLM Inc. because the statement is true, because all lives do matter, which we are told very explicitly in the Bible.

00:51:22.000 Yeah, I want to be very clear.

00:51:30.000 All lives matter.

00:51:31.000 When I criticize, I'm criticizing the organization, BLM Incorporated.

00:51:35.000 I want to be very, very clear.

00:51:37.000 And I knew you would, so thank you very much.

00:51:39.000 But with that, when you look at what is done under this banner, and it's anti-God, anti-Bible, it's anti-everything that I believe in.

00:51:51.000 And then we are watching what's happening in societies based upon this. 0.60

00:51:57.000 And I'm watching a young lady the other day.

00:51:59.000 I'm not sure where it was.

00:52:00.000 You probably saw the same picture.

00:52:02.000 She's inside a restaurant.

00:52:04.000 It looked like she's sitting down.

00:52:05.000 A huge crowd gathered around her. 0.90

00:52:08.000 And they're yelling at her.

00:52:10.000 They're raising the fist, which apparently is the new solidarity of the movement.

00:52:15.000 And they're yelling at her, from what I understand, to raise her fist.

00:52:18.000 So we see this radical intimidation that's taking place.

00:52:22.000 And in the universities, what's a kid to do in a university like that?

00:52:26.000 So let me, if I can, add a little context to the root and the philosophical basis here of what's happening.

00:52:26.000 Yeah.

00:52:32.000 I think it'll be really instructive.

00:52:33.000 And then we'll talk about the university basis of it.

00:52:35.000 So there's a couple lessons from the 20th century that we need to derive.

00:52:38.000 The 20th century was a bloodbath, by the way.

00:52:40.000 We don't teach our kids about this.

00:52:42.000 We human beings killed 130 million other human beings intentionally.

00:52:46.000 We sent people to their intentional and methodical deaths in communist China and Soviet Russia and Germany and Italy and Pol Pot and Cambodia.

00:52:46.000 Okay?

00:52:54.000 And so the fact that we in 2020 have not learned that lesson just shows how we as human beings need Jesus Christ because we are so screwed up, it's unbelievable.

00:53:04.000 Because you want to talk about a teaching lesson that should orient our path?

00:53:08.000 It's the 20th century.

00:53:10.000 The gulags, Mao Se Tong, and this is recent.

00:53:13.000 We have people alive that survived this stuff, and we still don't have those lessons.

00:53:17.000 What are those lessons?

00:53:18.000 Don't judge people based on immutable characteristics.

00:53:21.000 Don't judge people on things that they cannot change.

00:53:24.000 Skin color being the most obvious one.

00:53:26.000 So don't say something like, all white people are racist. 0.95

00:53:29.000 Like, no, you're racist for saying that, actually. 0.89

00:53:31.000 Okay?

00:53:32.000 Don't say something like, well, you have institutional privilege based on your skin color.

00:53:37.000 No, that's actually a racist statement.

00:53:38.000 It is.

00:53:39.000 So don't judge people based on the color of their skin.

00:53:41.000 Also, the second lesson is don't make people atone for something they themselves did not do.

00:53:46.000 It's a really bad idea.

00:53:47.000 This is called blood guilt.

00:53:48.000 This is against the gospel of Jesus Christ.

00:53:50.000 Jesus liberated us from all sorts of tribal and lines of ancestry where you yourself have to individually atone for your sins to your Creator through Christ Jesus.

00:54:01.000 It's that simple.

00:54:01.000 Your father can't save you for you.

00:54:03.000 Your grandfather can't save you for you.

00:54:05.000 This idea that you're going to be banished for the next seven generations, you're liberated by Christ.

00:54:08.000 But you got to do, you have to accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior.

00:54:12.000 And we take this for granted, but that was not the norm.

00:54:14.000 Usually you were confined to your own tribal group and there is no ability to break out of that.

00:54:14.000 It wasn't.

00:54:18.000 And the final thing is this: when someone promises utopia, don't believe them and run the other way and oppose them.

00:54:24.000 And that's exactly what's happening here.

00:54:26.000 And the final thing is this: when massive groups of people walk the streets and try to publicly condemn you for not believing what they believe, that's a danger sign and a fire alarm, everybody.

00:54:36.000 I'm telling you right now, you play this out.

00:54:39.000 130 million people died under this kind of behavior in the 20th century.

00:54:42.000 So what do you do in a university campus?

00:54:44.000 I'm happy to talk about education.

00:54:45.000 I'm happy to talk about, that's actually what I do.

00:54:47.000 It's my day job.

00:54:49.000 Visiting college campuses so you don't have to.

00:54:52.000 And so what is a young person to do?

00:54:57.000 It's harder than ever to be a Christian and a conservative on a college campus.

00:55:00.000 Totally recognize and understand that.

00:55:02.000 That's why we have Turning Point USA and we have all these chapters all across the country contesting for these principles.

00:55:07.000 And I just wanted to say this.

00:55:09.000 Not every kid has to go to college.

00:55:10.000 Not every kid has to go to four-year college.

00:55:12.000 It's a provocative view, but I believe it.

00:55:14.000 I actually think we have way too many kids going to college in our country.

00:55:16.000 I actually think that most kids that go to college actually end up worse if they wouldn't have gone to college.

00:55:21.000 They end up in debt, filled with bad ideas, bitter, angry, resentful, and deceitful around the country around them.

00:55:27.000 And so middle-class families are going into debt, endlessly into debt, to go borrow money they don't have, to send their kids to study things that don't matter to find jobs that don't exist.

00:55:35.000 While we need more plumbers, electricians, HVAC, police officers, firefighters, entrepreneurs, people that work with their hands, people manufacturing.

00:55:44.000 And yet in our society, we value people that have that certificate from a four-year college, which I'm not anti-college, but I am against what college has become in our country, which is an indoctrination activist factory that creates very, very angry people in a world that they should be full of gratitude around.

00:56:00.000 And so if you're willing to send your kid to college, think carefully and pray on that.

00:56:05.000 Start from the default position and write a two-page paper.

00:56:08.000 Have your kid write it as to why they should go to college.

00:56:11.000 And if they can't come up with good reasons, then don't send them.

00:56:14.000 Because it should be worth $70,000.

00:56:16.000 If it's worth $70,000 in debt, to you, be careful.

00:56:18.000 Because that is, just so you understand, that is 30 years of debt repayment with interest.

00:56:23.000 It could be as far as 40 years that you might be signing on the dotted line.

00:56:27.000 And you might say, well, Charlie, how is he supposed to succeed or she is supposed to succeed without it?

00:56:31.000 Well, first of all, only 59% of people that go to college graduate.

00:56:34.000 41% drop out, just so you understand.

00:56:36.000 Any business that has only a 59% success rate would be shut down and be called a fraud.

00:56:42.000 Okay?

00:56:43.000 If you had a 59% success rate of not getting food poisoning at Applebee's, they'd be shut down and run out of the town.

00:56:48.000 Okay?

00:56:50.000 True.

00:56:52.000 Out of the people that graduate, only 44% of people that have graduated, according to the New York Federal Reserve, are gainfully employed with jobs that do not require college degrees.

00:57:03.000 Those are just the people that are employed.

00:57:05.000 And the youth unemployment is 13% as it is.

00:57:07.000 So a lot of them aren't employed.

00:57:08.000 The ones that are employed are doing a job that never required them to go to college all in the first place.

00:57:13.000 It's become this incredibly expensive rite of passage that we have to just stay time out.

00:57:18.000 What are we doing here?

00:57:20.000 And it has become so baked into the lexicon of aspirational middle-class families.

00:57:26.000 I, in some ways, am trying to be the voice in the wilderness and telling you guys to say, stop, because we're doing something so dreadful to our country right now.

00:57:34.000 So here's my challenge to people.

00:57:37.000 If you're willing to send your kid or your child for hundreds of thousands of dollars into debt, take those hundreds of thousands of dollars.

00:57:45.000 Here's a thought exercise and think about it.

00:57:47.000 And instead of sending them to school, maybe send them for a gap year, put all that money into just a very moderately managed money market account or index fund.

00:57:56.000 After four years, see how much it's worth.

00:57:59.000 And by the way, have your child watch Prague or U videos, listen to my podcast, listen to the good pastor, listen to Victor Davis Hansen, and see who actually has better character, a better worldview, and is more financially able to take on the world versus all of their colleagues that went to that overly inflated institution that are now $150,000, $200,000 in debt, filled with awful ideas, have very little to any skills, a depleted confidence, very little understanding of where they're going.

00:58:26.000 And so, and this is a very interesting thing to say, but I say it quite often, which is high school seniors are way more mature than college seniors.

00:58:34.000 We actually create weaker, more immature people through the college system.

00:58:39.000 We do.

00:58:40.000 And so college should be a place where we create people more capable to endure the inevitable suffering of life.

00:58:49.000 So it should be, we're going to make you stronger.

00:58:51.000 We're going to make you tougher.

00:58:52.000 We're going to make you more capable to hear opposing ideas.

00:58:56.000 The exact opposite actually happens, where we don't create stronger people.

00:59:00.000 We create people more likely to try to complain about what's going on around them and try to remove those things.

00:59:06.000 When it really should be, we are going to get you ready to endure this really hard thing called life.

00:59:13.000 That does not happen at all.

00:59:14.000 And they do not learn the great Western thinkers.

00:59:16.000 They do not learn the teachings of the Bible.

00:59:18.000 I know there's great schools out there, and I'm not trying to, but I'm talking about 99% of schools.

00:59:18.000 And there's exceptions.

00:59:22.000 Okay.

00:59:22.000 And that is, trust me, I can tell you from experience, what I'm saying is true.

00:59:26.000 And so when it comes to university, I think that we need to have a very serious, if it continues as it is, the country will disintegrate.

00:59:33.000 This is not sustainable.

00:59:33.000 It's that simple.

00:59:34.000 It's just that, I mean, we have $1.3 trillion in collective student loan debt.

00:59:38.000 Middle-class incomes are going down.

00:59:40.000 And if I may say one more thing about this, we look at Portland, we look at Seattle, we look at these cities that are disintegrating in front of us.

00:59:46.000 And a lot of them are 28, 29, and 30-year-olds.

00:59:49.000 And for the adults in the room, I want you to think about when you were 29 or 30.

00:59:54.000 I think back when you're 31.

00:59:56.000 You probably had this as the case, because this is the way America was.

00:59:59.000 You were working hard and you saw your life get a little bit better year after year.

01:00:02.000 Just a little bit, right?

01:00:03.000 You saw your ability to have maybe a little bit better vacation, save a little money.

01:00:08.000 Young people don't have that right now. 0.93

01:00:09.000 They do not see their life getting materially better at all. 0.94

01:00:12.000 They don't.

01:00:14.000 In fact, we're on pace that 500,000 less children this year than last year.

01:00:18.000 500,000.

01:00:19.000 We're on the verge of a population collapse in this country.

01:00:23.000 No one is talking about, by the way.

01:00:24.000 None of the politicians are talking.

01:00:25.000 That's why in my RNC speech, I said we need to have a society that makes it easier to have many children because we are not doing that right now.

01:00:32.000 In fact, everyone's like, oh, we're going to have a population boom after the virus shut down.

01:00:37.000 No, it's the exact opposite.

01:00:39.000 People can't afford children.

01:00:40.000 They don't want to bring them into a chaotic world.

01:00:42.000 And it's not a value that they hold because having children is a value.

01:00:45.000 It is.

01:00:46.000 And so to close the point, when you are renting and not paying a mortgage, when you have a negative $80,000 net worth, you have no skills, and your business is shut down.

01:00:57.000 So we tell people a lot, we as conservatives, oh, go work harder.

01:01:01.000 I'm sorry, you shut down the entire civilization for nine months. 1.00

01:01:04.000 Where are these young people supposed to work exactly? 0.95

01:01:07.000 What are they supposed to do? 0.97

01:01:08.000 Tell me, where are they supposed to go get a job?

01:01:11.000 We have made, and I'm telling you for the adults in the room, I'm not trying to be like intergenerationally condemning here, but it's honest.

01:01:18.000 There's an injustice happening right now to young people in this country.

01:01:20.000 And it's not, by the way, it's not an excuse for young people out there to go burn everything down or play a victim, okay?

01:01:25.000 In fact, it's not an excuse ever.

01:01:27.000 Still make good choices, apply yourself correctly, and don't for a second use this as a hall pass, you know, to pass go and say, oh, I'm a victim.

01:01:35.000 I get free stuff.

01:01:36.000 Like, no, you don't, okay?

01:01:37.000 You still have to act ethically, find a job, be an entrepreneur, think creatively.

01:01:41.000 But for adults, you have to ask yourself, have we really done a good job for young people in this country the last nine months?

01:01:46.000 And the God's honest truth is, we have really done something immoral to the students and to the young people of this country.

01:01:51.000 And it's got to stop right now.

01:01:54.000 Absolutely.

01:01:59.000 Okay, let me say this.

01:02:00.000 Listen.

01:02:01.000 I'm happy to go overtime if you want.

01:02:04.000 We already are.

01:02:05.000 Praise the Lord.

01:02:07.000 So I'm going to say this to everybody watching online.

01:02:09.000 This is about the time I start taking online questions.

01:02:12.000 And also for anybody here, you can send them right now to YouTube or through my Facebook, and I will get them.

01:02:19.000 So with everybody out there, but I want to bring this up.

01:02:24.000 You mentioned society collapsing.

01:02:28.000 Not just.

01:02:28.000 So optimistic, right?

01:02:30.000 Well, no.

01:02:31.000 You sound like me.

01:02:33.000 And businesses collapsing.

01:02:36.000 And do you think this is intentional?

01:02:39.000 Part of it is, of course.

01:02:40.000 Yeah, I mean, look, there's always architects of chaos.

01:02:43.000 I'm less into the belief that there are very specific people that are pushing the buttons for every single output.

01:02:48.000 I do think, though, that there are general architects of chaos that are happy to see the things that are happening in this country.

01:02:54.000 So let me phrase it that way.

01:02:55.000 I don't get too molecular with this where every single mandate is necessarily behind every single decision.

01:03:00.000 I was the person behind that.

01:03:02.000 But do I think that there are people that are happy that 30 million people are out of work?

01:03:06.000 Of course, absolutely.

01:03:08.000 I mean, that is a perfect way to be able to turn that country into a Marxist country.

01:03:12.000 I mean, that is a perfect, that is a perfect population for that. 0.64

01:03:16.000 Do I think that there is a population that is happy that all of a sudden the pharmaceutical companies now have an ability to go sell a national vaccine to 300 million people?

01:03:25.000 Yeah, I think that there's some people that are really happy about that.

01:03:27.000 Do I think that there are people that are happy that antidepressant medication has increased by tenfold over the last 90 days because we decided we should tell people not to leave their homes?

01:03:36.000 Yeah, I think that some people are happy about that.

01:03:37.000 In fact, I think there's incentives to actually tell people to continue to act in that way and continue the fear-mongering exercise.

01:03:44.000 And so, yeah, the answer to that is yes.

01:03:46.000 But I will say this, that the broader incentives, there's some competing coalitions here.

01:03:51.000 And just from a strategic standpoint, those of us that believe in America and a decent and reasonable life and believe in the Judeo-Christian ethic, here's how we can be successful.

01:04:00.000 Because there's an unholy alliance that exists between four or five groups that actually otherwise would have hated each other.

01:04:05.000 There's the corporate tyrants that are friends with the absolute Marxists, that are friends with the Islamists, that are friends of the Chinese Communist Party.

01:04:13.000 And all four of them hate each other, but they actually all agree that America's the obstacle and we must destroy it at all costs.

01:04:20.000 So what do I mean by that?

01:04:21.000 You have the corporate tyrants that are friends with the Marxists.

01:04:24.000 It's very bizarre, actually, where it's kind of the eat-me-last strategy.

01:04:28.000 So this is what you see happening at the National Basketball Association and the NFL and PepsiCo, where they are afraid that the storming of the Bastille is going to result in them having to shutter all their business.

01:04:41.000 So they go to the Marxists and they say, so what causes do I have to go send a $100 million wire to?

01:04:45.000 Like, oh, that one, okay, no, you're not going to come eat me, which is one of the most foolish things imaginable because they will get burned down too. 0.88

01:04:52.000 And then you have the Islamic groups that are from the Middle East, the Iranians in particular, that want the total destruction of Israel and of America, that are friends with the LGBT groups. 0.99

01:05:02.000 Like, you guys hate and throw gays off the top of buildings. 0.97

01:05:04.000 How are you guys friends with each other? 0.99

01:05:04.000 Like, what? 0.99

01:05:06.000 Like, they're marching in the streets against Donald Trump. 0.91

01:05:09.000 You do understand it's illegal to be gay in Iran. 0.95

01:05:11.000 One of my favorite quotes, I encourage you guys all to look this up. 0.98

01:05:14.000 They put him on the back burner because he was not really good for PR for the evil Islamic Republic of Iran. 0.62

01:05:19.000 When Mahmoud Akhar Abaghinijad was interviewed on 60 Minutes, they said, so how do you treat gay people in Iran? 1.00

01:05:24.000 He said, we do not have gay people in Iran.

01:05:27.000 Okay. 1.00

01:05:30.000 Coming in hot. 0.88

01:05:31.000 So you're trying to tell me the country with 80 million people, you don't have one gay person? 1.00

01:05:37.000 They just throw them off rooftops. 1.00

01:05:38.000 They give them flying lessons with no net. 0.99

01:05:41.000 And yet they're friends with the LGBT.

01:05:44.000 Because you know what the Islamic people and the gay advocacy groups have in common? 0.99

01:05:48.000 They hate Christianity. 0.99

01:05:50.000 That's the one thing they have in common, right? 0.93

01:05:52.000 I'm not saying all of the gay groups do, but the activist ones that absolutely are with the Islamic Republic, the activist ones. 0.85

01:05:58.000 And then the Chinese Communist Party pairing up with the corporate tyrants.

01:06:02.000 And so you have this coalition that's been built. 0.80

01:06:04.000 So our path to victory strategically, just talking about politically and otherwise, is separating these groups and making them fight within each other because they actually philosophically hate each other.

01:06:13.000 I mean, the Marxist turning on Jeff Bezos is actually a very healthy thing.

01:06:17.000 It is.

01:06:18.000 Having the Bernie Sanders people go up against Amazon, like blood sport, let it happen, basically, right?

01:06:23.000 Because right now they've actually found a common alliance in destroying Western civilization together.

01:06:28.000 So I can't remember even close to what your question was, but I hope that helps us.

01:06:33.000 You know, I don't remember what it was either, but it was really good.

01:06:37.000 So everything you just said, I really enjoyed.

01:06:39.000 I'm watching cities burn down.

01:06:41.000 Okay, that was what you're talking about.

01:06:43.000 No, we weren't watching.

01:06:44.000 Yeah, I don't know.

01:06:46.000 What was my question?

01:06:51.000 But still, we're watching cities burn down.

01:06:53.000 And they're primarily run by leftists, aren't they?

01:06:57.000 Yeah, of course.

01:06:58.000 I mean, Portland, Seattle, Minneapolis, Chicago.

01:07:01.000 The most amazing thing is that, I mean, I come from the suburbs of Chicago.

01:07:04.000 Chicago has not had a Republican mayor since 1931.

01:07:07.000 Atlanta has not had a Republican mayor since the 1800s.

01:07:10.000 Chicago has Democrat aldermen, congressmen, city council, mayor, everything you could possibly imagine.

01:07:15.000 They're out there saying Republicans are to blame for the 534 black-on-black crimes that happen every single year and for all the crime, the robbery.

01:07:22.000 And just today, there was a shooting in a Chicago restaurant where one was killed and six were injured.

01:07:26.000 Yet, somehow, with the strictest gun control, they control everything.

01:07:29.000 It's a complete and total political monopoly.

01:07:32.000 And that's not a good thing for anybody.

01:07:33.000 And yet, the Democrats own this, make no mistake.

01:07:36.000 They own the tragedy of these cities.

01:07:37.000 And here's what's really sad.

01:07:39.000 It's sad because if there was a tragedy in Republican-owned areas, Democrats wouldn't care at all.

01:07:44.000 But the fact that we actually care about all Americans and all lives, despite all these cities being Democrat monopolist strongholds, we still pray and cry when lives are lost in them because we don't look at things as, oh, we can get more votes.

01:07:44.000 They wouldn't.

01:08:00.000 We're like, no, that's wrong.

01:08:01.000 We should do something about it because the innocent are going to be harmed, which is what's happening.

01:08:06.000 And what's happening in Kenosha, Wisconsin, and Portland, and Seattle, and San Francisco, and a little bit in Los Angeles, is nothing less than the absolute unraveling of decent society.

01:08:16.000 I mean, just in Chicago, two and a half weeks ago, I'll give you a very quick story on this, which is BLM Incorporated went to the streets of Chicago and executed a planned and deliberate terror campaign where 600 businesses were totally and completely looted, burned down to the ground.

01:08:34.000 And one story in particular I want to share with you: a guy by the name of Mohammed Ashik.

01:08:38.000 He legally immigrated to this country 42 years ago, paid his taxes, obediently paid his property taxes, played by the rules, never committed a crime.

01:08:47.000 He owned a watch repair shop on Wabash Avenue underneath the L in Chicago.

01:08:53.000 A lot of you might be familiar with that where they filmed Batman.

01:08:55.000 You guys might know the imagery. 0.59

01:08:57.000 BLM Incorporated hits the streets.

01:08:59.000 He tries to go defend his business.

01:09:02.000 The police are nowhere to be found.

01:09:03.000 Stand down order by Lori Lightfoot, Democrat mayor.

01:09:06.000 He tries to defend his business.

01:09:08.000 Bay LM says, go away.

01:09:09.000 You don't want to be here.

01:09:10.000 And he says, please, this is my livelihood.

01:09:12.000 Please don't steal this stuff.

01:09:13.000 They intimidate him.

01:09:14.000 He runs away.

01:09:15.000 They steal everything, $900,000 worth of merchandise.

01:09:19.000 Now, none of it's insured.

01:09:21.000 Because he's repairing other people's stuff, watch repair, family heirlooms, intergenerational tokens and items, gone forever, sold for scraps on the street.

01:09:21.000 Why?

01:09:29.000 His entire life is over.

01:09:31.000 He had to declare personal bankruptcy. 0.96

01:09:33.000 Muhammad Ashik, 42 years in this country. 0.94

01:09:35.000 He believed in this system.

01:09:36.000 He did nothing wrong.

01:09:38.000 And yet, Lori Lightfoot and the Democrat City Council, by the way, there's thousands of stories like this across the country.

01:09:43.000 Thousands. 0.82

01:09:44.000 When we have betrayed, you know who Muhammad Ashik is? 0.99

01:09:47.000 He is lower middle-class minority that thought this place was a safe haven to go pursue what was good. 0.69

01:09:53.000 It's not Jeff Bezos's house is raided.

01:09:56.000 It's not the Apple CEO whose house is, or the entire corporate class.

01:10:00.000 No, no, no.

01:10:01.000 It's Muhammad Ashik who came here and did the right thing for 42 years, who BLM Incorporated is raiding for reparations.

01:10:08.000 Now, that's a terrorist organization, okay?

01:10:10.000 That is wrong, and that is evil, and that is immoral.

01:10:12.000 And that is happening all across the country at an alarming rate.

01:10:16.000 And so, and if we allow this to continue and we do not deploy law enforcement on every single level, National Guard police to stop the insurrection happening in our country, decent and reasonable people will not take this anymore.

01:10:27.000 And I don't support that.

01:10:28.000 What's going to happen, and you game this out, you're starting to see this pop up a little bit, is that decent and reasonable people, and I do not support vigilante justice, I don't.

01:10:37.000 But if you want to know a story that archetypically embodies exactly where we are going, it's the story of Batman, okay?

01:10:43.000 And we all know this story and we can laugh, but it's actually a very, it's rooted in truth.

01:10:48.000 What was Gotham City?

01:10:49.000 Gotham City was a prophecy and a prediction where the criminals ran the city, the police were bought and paid for, the district attorney was completely corrupt, and what needed to rise up?

01:10:59.000 A vigilante to go enforce the law.

01:11:01.000 Bad idea.

01:11:02.000 It's actually awful because most people are not like Batman, okay?

01:11:05.000 They're not.

01:11:07.000 In fact, instead of Batman coming in to save, you're going to have civil unrest.

01:11:11.000 And so if the police are not able to do their job, if you do not deploy law enforcement, you're going to have the unraveling of this gift we have been given of the people and my ancestors before me and my family who stormed the beaches of Normandy, that flew over the islands in the Pacific Ocean, that fought in the Civil War and bled in all these conflicts.

01:11:30.000 We're just going to unravel it in our cities like this.

01:11:33.000 I'm telling you, everybody, this is a fire alarm.

01:11:35.000 You got to get very serious because we can lose this gift in an instant and we are so close to it.

01:11:39.000 Yeah, absolutely.

01:11:41.000 I think that's a call to stand up and press forward.

01:11:47.000 I want to get into voting in a minute because I think how many evangelicals don't vote?

01:11:52.000 I mean, the numbers vary, but I think a fairly accepted statistic is only about half of regular attending churchgoers vote.

01:12:02.000 That's a pretty about 50%.

01:12:04.000 That is a well-accepted statistic, by the way, of political scientists.

01:12:09.000 And now they're trying to tell everybody, don't go vote, which is a whole other thing.

01:12:13.000 Yeah, and I mean, so some Christians, and I hear this a lot, they say, well, I don't like Donald Trump.

01:12:18.000 And they say, okay, sure, great. 0.91

01:12:20.000 So they say, he's awful.

01:12:22.000 He's all these sorts of things. 0.97

01:12:22.000 He's immoral. 0.97

01:12:23.000 Well, teach me how to be as good as you.

01:12:25.000 And I'd be happy to sign up for that program, first of all, right?

01:12:27.000 So, secondly, you look at the Bible, and I can understand on the surface, for an untrained eye, and kind of a sloppy mind, why a three-times married, twice-divorced Playboy billionaire from New York, being the most pro-life president in American history, might make your head spin.

01:12:47.000 But that's exactly how God works, everybody.

01:12:49.000 He uses unusual vessels for righteous purposes all the time.

01:12:53.000 And so I said something, I said something in my RNC speech that really made the left unhappy, which is exactly how I know him right over the topic.

01:13:01.000 That's exactly it.

01:13:03.000 So, and I called President Donald Trump the bodyguard of Western civilization.

01:13:09.000 And if I can build this out a little bit.

01:13:11.000 Oh, yeah.

01:13:12.000 Yes.

01:13:13.000 By the way, in my speech, everything I said was prayed over and was carefully chosen.

01:13:18.000 And it was the most deliberate speech I've ever given in my life.

01:13:20.000 And I encourage you guys to watch it and just read the transcript because there's actually references to 1 Timothy in there, living quiet and peaceful lives, church more important than a casino.

01:13:28.000 I try to fit a lot in there, okay?

01:13:30.000 At four minutes.

01:13:31.000 But the one part in there that really got everyone animated is when I called President Trump the bodyguard of Western civilization.

01:13:36.000 Now, they got upset because of the Western Civilization Park because they hate the West.

01:13:39.000 But the part of the bodyguard imagery I think is really effective.

01:13:42.000 I want you to think for a second.

01:13:44.000 If you were to hire a bodyguard for your family, do you care about the tweets they sent earlier in the day?

01:13:49.000 If you were to hire a bodyguard, you want them probably to be stronger, more aware, better at perceiving threats, how to avoid them, and how to confront them than anyone else.

01:14:00.000 And you want someone who is going to tell you the truth about what's coming next to your home when you hire a bodyguard, right?

01:14:08.000 It's a complete and total threat analysis of a civilization in front of you.

01:14:11.000 That's why I love that analogy because we hired him to protect this gift that we have been given.

01:14:16.000 And guess what?

01:14:17.000 If all of a sudden, if he has to tell the family, you get in the living room, I'm going to go fight these people because I know how, he's going to win because he's a street fighter from the Bronx.

01:14:25.000 And he knows from Brooklyn, I'm sorry, where he knows how to get into the streets and he knows how to win.

01:14:31.000 And people say, well, that's not very biblical.

01:14:32.000 I'm going to say, well, you guys should go get a scissors and take up Samson from your Bible, okay? 0.99

01:14:38.000 Because he took, God came to him in the bed of a prostitute with a prostitute in bed. 0.99

01:14:43.000 I came to tell eight-year-olds about this. 0.99

01:14:44.000 I'm like, I changed the story.

01:14:47.000 He took a jaw of a donkey and killed a thousand Philistines and died a sacrificial death for God because the people of Israel were unwilling to fight at that particular moment.

01:14:59.000 This idea that God can't use people for specific purposes.

01:15:02.000 Let me tell you, President Trump is prayed over every single day by Mike Pence in the Oval Office.

01:15:06.000 He's invited more pastors to the White House than George W. Bush ever did.

01:15:09.000 Most pro-life president of American history, Dorset, Kavanaugh, fighting for religious celebrity, embassy to Jerusalem, Golan Heights.

01:15:15.000 I could continue.

01:15:17.000 So, thank you.

01:15:20.000 So, I highly implore people to look at these things comprehensively with wisdom, not just like, oh, I don't like this week.

01:15:25.000 I'm not going to vote for him.

01:15:26.000 I actually think that's a silly and reckless reason not to vote for President Donald Trump.

01:15:31.000 Amen.

01:15:34.000 I couldn't agree more.

01:15:35.000 I had a conversation recently with somebody that's pretty close to me.

01:15:40.000 They've been going to church for a number of years, fairly conservative, I thought.

01:15:44.000 And then we're talking about this.

01:15:48.000 And I said, What's your issue with Trump?

01:15:50.000 Well, I don't like the way he speaks.

01:15:53.000 This guy's really intelligent.

01:15:55.000 I don't like the way he speaks.

01:15:57.000 And have you ever read his tweets?

01:15:59.000 And I said, So his tweets bother you more than 61 million babies being aborted.

01:16:04.000 And I look at, go, how is there even any comparison there?

01:16:09.000 And some people say, well, my vote is an endorsement of all of his immoral behavior.

01:16:14.000 I said, wait a second, hold on.

01:16:15.000 I say, go back in your voting history.

01:16:17.000 Did you go vote for Ronald Reagan?

01:16:18.000 Because he was divorced.

01:16:20.000 Did you go vote for any other Republican ever that might have any sort of moral indecency?

01:16:24.000 By the way, let's just get off this entire moral high horse thing.

01:16:26.000 We're all sinners.

01:16:27.000 We all foreshort of God's kingdom.

01:16:28.000 Okay.

01:16:28.000 It's like, I'm a better person than him.

01:16:30.000 Like, congratulations, get him that level.

01:16:31.000 Okay, great.

01:16:31.000 Sure.

01:16:32.000 He's fighting for what is good and what is right.

01:16:34.000 You're here being like, oh, I'm such a good person.

01:16:35.000 Like, okay, I'd rather have someone that's fighting for what is good than someone that's on their podium and like, well, I'm a really good person.

01:16:40.000 I'm not going to go vote and all this.

01:16:42.000 Like, okay, great.

01:16:42.000 Go into the hills and we're actually going to contest for truth and go save babies that are being slaughtered in Planet Herod.

01:16:47.000 Because that's what I consider to be the biblical mandate of making disciples of all nations.

01:16:47.000 Okay.

01:16:50.000 Amen.

01:16:51.000 I never once casted my vote for the pastor of the United States.

01:16:56.000 President, yes, but not pastors.

01:16:58.000 That's not somebody that we are voting for.

01:17:00.000 No, I can look at my own life.

01:17:02.000 And if we're all honest, we're all pretty messed up.

01:17:06.000 And Charlie, it was some years ago.

01:17:08.000 There's no way you'd sit up here with me.

01:17:11.000 I'm afraid of myself sometimes.

01:17:15.000 That's the story of humanity.

01:17:16.000 That is a story.

01:17:17.000 You mentioned Samson.

01:17:18.000 You have David in the Bible, commits adultery with Bathsheba and then has her husband murdered.

01:17:24.000 And yet he's a man after God's own heart, one of the greatest kings that has ever lived in the history of the world.

01:17:30.000 And you look at these things and you go, man, this is just mind-boggling.

01:17:34.000 The way that people are reasoning through this.

01:17:37.000 Mass confusion, but the enemy is the author of confusion.

01:17:41.000 I got to ask you two more questions if we don't.

01:17:42.000 You can stay longer, whatever you want.

01:17:44.000 Okay.

01:17:46.000 All right.

01:17:47.000 Kurt Schilling said, it's okay to gather in the streets to burn Bibles about Portland.

01:17:54.000 Sure.

01:17:55.000 But it is against the law to gather in the name of Christ.

01:17:58.000 Sounds to me in church, in the name of Christ, it sounds to me like Berlin, 1936.

01:18:04.000 I mean, look, I don't like overusing the 1930s Germany stuff, just to be perfectly honest with you.

01:18:10.000 I think that it's a very specific horror, and I think it's actually thrown around way too cheaply, to be honest.

01:18:16.000 And so I'm just going to kind of put pause on that. 0.69

01:18:18.000 Instead, I would much rather talk about Mao Ste Tongs China and the Soviet Union.

01:18:22.000 And they're actually different in their own capacity.

01:18:25.000 And the reason I just, the 1930s thing, I just think that there's a misunderstanding in a lot of circles.

01:18:32.000 And I think it actually cheapens what happens in the 1930s, to be perfectly honest with you.

01:18:36.000 And I don't like it when the right does it.

01:18:37.000 I don't like it when the left does it.

01:18:39.000 While there are similarities at times to behavior and things, I just, for me, that's my own kind of personal approach to that.

01:18:45.000 However, let's just talk about the 20th century, which we have, which I think is a nice segue from that mention, which is what did they do in the Soviet Union when they were taking power and Joseph Stalin killed actually more people than were killed in 1930s Germany, by the way.

01:18:58.000 More people were killed in the Soviet Union than were killed in 1930s and early 1940s Germany, which was Joseph Stalin went after intentionally and criminalized and prosecuted all the pastors and closed down the churches.

01:19:09.000 Why?

01:19:10.000 Because dictators and tyrants will never allow a power to be higher than themselves.

01:19:15.000 This is something that we are seeing right now with the corporate class.

01:19:18.000 They want to make themselves into gods.

01:19:19.000 They want to turn themselves into permanent deities above us all.

01:19:23.000 This is a predictable human trajectory.

01:19:25.000 We saw this with all of the great kings of Alexander the Great and Napoleon.

01:19:30.000 Whenever someone gets to absolute power, they then want to get to an interval higher to make themselves into a god of some sort.

01:19:36.000 This was the trajectory of all the Egyptian pharaohs, of all the leaders of the Mayan and the Incan and the Aztec Empire.

01:19:41.000 So this is nothing new. 0.73

01:19:43.000 Joseph Stalin is a very interesting case study.

01:19:46.000 And I think that the lack of understanding about Soviet Russia has been one of the greatest injustices that we have done to our nation's children.

01:19:54.000 It really is.

01:19:55.000 Because if you look at the Soviet Union and Joseph Stalin, very few people know that he actually studied in seminary.

01:20:02.000 That Joseph Stalin was a top-tier student to become a pastor.

01:20:08.000 So Joseph Stalin actually never admitted that he was an atheist.

01:20:11.000 He didn't.

01:20:12.000 He did admit he was at war with God, though.

01:20:16.000 You want to go spend a couple hours wrestling with something.

01:20:18.000 Go think about that.

01:20:19.000 At war with God, what does that even mean? 0.98

01:20:21.000 And that's exactly what his entire existence and his whole pathological campaign of destruction was in the Soviet Union. 0.94

01:20:27.000 Same could be said for Mao Zedong. 0.93

01:20:29.000 I mean, he only killed 55 million people, right?

01:20:31.000 As Stalin said, one death is a tragedy, a million is a statistic. 0.58

01:20:34.000 Mao Zedong, still, we're still feeling the terror of the Chinese Communist Party to this day through the cultural evolution, had the self-enforced little red book that if you did not have the little red book and if you did not have the incantation of the Mao Cedong, you can be put in prison and killed.

01:20:49.000 So here's why I don't like some of these kind of analogies and some of these kind of the moralizing that we do. 0.68

01:20:55.000 People say never again.

01:20:56.000 We're never going to let that happen again.

01:20:58.000 Okay, there's a million Muslims in concentration camps in China right now.

01:21:01.000 What are you doing about it?

01:21:03.000 So never against a lie.

01:21:03.000 Right now.

01:21:04.000 We're letting it happen right now. 0.86

01:21:06.000 There's a million Muslims that, by the way, most of the Islamic countries aren't even talking about. 0.98

01:21:10.000 That just kind of shows what their priorities are. 0.98

01:21:12.000 However, that bothers me because they're children of God and they're in a concentration camp.

01:21:17.000 And I don't like when the innocent are being preyed on.

01:21:18.000 So right now, there's one million Muslims in concentration camps.

01:21:21.000 They're called Uyghur Muslims.

01:21:22.000 You can look it up yourself. 0.99

01:21:23.000 I believe it's spelled U-I-H-G-Y-R.

01:21:26.000 At least some spelling of that will auto-correct it in the search engine you use, which hopefully is not Google.

01:21:30.000 And because they're the ones that are building the entire empire for this to be possible, by the way. 0.89

01:21:34.000 They're our own children that we educate in our schools to work for Google to go build the 21st century concentration camps for China. 0.79

01:21:41.000 They just enlist our own tech companies to be able to do that. 0.84

01:21:44.000 And so right now, there's a million Muslims in concentration camps.

01:21:48.000 I just want to keep saying that because right now we have LeBron James saying how awful of a country that we are.

01:21:53.000 He's the one that's taking the knee, but he says that China is a pretty awesome place and refuses to say one bad thing against the Chinese Communist Party.

01:21:59.000 And so that should enrage every single person that sees what's happening in our country right now.

01:22:03.000 Because guess what?

01:22:04.000 America has absolutely made mistakes, but America is not a mistake. 0.77

01:22:07.000 We are the least racist, multiracial country in the history of the world.

01:22:10.000 We are the most generous.

01:22:11.000 We are the most benevolent, the most creative, the most giving of opportunity, the most forgiving, the most likely to have a comeback story.

01:22:17.000 Do you know what the most striking thing was?

01:22:19.000 When I traveled to France, I traveled to Belgium.

01:22:20.000 I traveled all across the entire European Union, not Belgium, when I traveled to Switzerland, I traveled to Germany, is what they said, the one thing that made America different, and this is what's so interesting.

01:22:30.000 And again, the activist media, they're just so boring lately, is that the Europeans that are entrepreneurs, they said, one of the major cultural differences between Europe and America is how forgiving of failure America is.

01:22:42.000 I said, you know why?

01:22:44.000 Because we're a Christian nation, that's why.

01:22:46.000 And it's a really interesting thing, right?

01:22:48.000 Because we love a good comeback story in this country, right?

01:22:50.000 And that's the Christian ethic: you're going to come to some prominence.

01:22:54.000 You're going to get broken down, surrender yourself, and maybe, maybe through Jesus Christ, you'll build yourself up back again.

01:23:00.000 And just look at some of the great comeback stories.

01:23:02.000 General Douglas MacArthur, General Patton.

01:23:05.000 I mean, those guys were just thrown out, and they said, General Douglas MacArthur famously said, I will return, I will be back.

01:23:11.000 That was the Terminator before the Terminator.

01:23:12.000 He went to Korea and won the Korean War.

01:23:14.000 And I'll finish with this by saying, Tiger Woods, all these stories are redemption.

01:23:18.000 And we lose this beautiful kind of cultural landscape where we just say nothing but the negatives and focusing on the negatives.

01:23:25.000 But my goodness, that we've been given a gift to everybody by living in this country.

01:23:28.000 And it is such a shame what we are doing to our children and teaching them ingratitude and bitterness.

01:23:33.000 We are going to look back at this and say, What were we doing?

01:23:36.000 We had it so good.

01:23:37.000 We had it so free.

01:23:39.000 We had liberty.

01:23:40.000 And I hope we'll never say we lost it.

01:23:42.000 It's on us.

01:23:43.000 Amen.

01:23:44.000 Amen.

01:23:44.000 Thank you very much.

01:23:47.000 I have a couple things.

01:23:48.000 Here's a YouTube question that came in.

01:23:50.000 I'm going to rephrase it.

01:23:51.000 It's regarding vaccines.

01:23:54.000 And I'm going to phrase it with this since you mentioned China.

01:23:57.000 So China implemented a social credit system some years ago.

01:24:00.000 And it's very oppressive to the people.

01:24:04.000 If you're not familiar with the social credit system, basically, if you speak well of the Chinese government, then you're blessed.

01:24:10.000 Your kids can go to certain schools.

01:24:12.000 You can live in certain neighborhoods, things like that.

01:24:15.000 If you speak out against the authorities in China, then you are going to be punished.

01:24:20.000 You can be locked into your community and never be able to leave that community and on down that list. 0.70

01:24:25.000 And I said years ago, because of what the Bible says, every dictator in the world is going to want the Chinese social credit system. 0.62

01:24:32.000 Yes.

01:24:33.000 And when I look at the way things will play out eventually, whenever the last days are, then I think of the vaccines.

01:24:41.000 And I have, I'm concerned when I hear of the vaccine.

01:24:45.000 I'm concerned about where vaccines come from with abortive babies.

01:24:50.000 And then also, now we're hearing mandatory vaccine in order to get back to whatever.

01:24:50.000 That's correct.

01:24:57.000 I want to emphasize the first point because I saw some people look confused.

01:25:01.000 Vaccines are made through aborted fetuses, babies, just so you understand.

01:25:04.000 It is how vaccines are made.

01:25:06.000 The antibodies that are injected into your children through vaccines are made possible by the abortion industry, the million abortions a year.

01:25:12.000 So just so you understand what that is.

01:25:14.000 And you can look it up yourself.

01:25:15.000 You can fact-check it.

01:25:16.000 So that's something that is quite horrific.

01:25:18.000 They don't teach our children that.

01:25:19.000 And it's something that is an important nuance.

01:25:22.000 So look, I'm not going to, I'll leave the eschatology to you.

01:25:30.000 Pain right now to try to get people mandatory compliance towards a vaccine.

01:25:38.000 And it's pathological how much they want this.

01:25:40.000 In fact, just so you understand where this is going, and it must be the mandated part of this absolutely must be fought at every single turn.

01:25:47.000 Is that they are going to be having you can't get certain jobs, certain corporations are going to require it, school systems, and eventually states are going to require this.

01:25:56.000 And so this is this is coming.

01:25:58.000 It absolutely is.

01:25:59.000 And in fact, they're admitting it.

01:26:01.000 I mean, this is coming from the very top levels of our government that they want to have the mandated vaccine for individuals for young children, for everyone across the country.

01:26:10.000 And just some, there's some other, even the best flu vaccine we have is only 10 to 15% effective, right?

01:26:16.000 So in any ways, it might be a placebo, but I, and but I'm very much, I share the government overreach concern so greatly because if we allow that to happen, which we're already seeing, I think, a lot of different ways, there's social conditioning going on right now to just do what you're told, obey, take a knee, all these sorts of things.

01:26:36.000 And I'm going to be very honest with you, and this church being the outlier of this, I've been saddened because I thought that we embraced liberty a lot more in this country than we really did.

01:26:46.000 I'm going to be honest.

01:26:47.000 And maybe it's maybe just a moment in time.

01:26:49.000 Maybe we'll wake up.

01:26:50.000 But, man, I mean, the fact that we have allowed so much to be shut down for so long at such a great cost, under such fear, and such mass misinformation after misinformation.

01:27:02.000 And I'm not saying the virus is not a real thing.

01:27:04.000 I have lost a dear mentor and friend to the virus.

01:27:06.000 There's real tragedy and real pain.

01:27:09.000 However, the singular analysis at just that one thing as the only thing that we must focus on, as if we do not have a country of 345 million diverse people demographically and otherwise, where we have just tried to kill a mouse with a tomahawk missile in the middle of a neighborhood.

01:27:25.000 And there's a lot of casualties around us where more kids committed suicide in the state of California than died of the Chinese coronavirus.

01:27:32.000 That should get everyone great concern.

01:27:34.000 Yeah, absolutely.

01:27:37.000 So I have one more question.

01:27:39.000 I want to wind things down.

01:27:40.000 We've been going, wow, over an hour and a half.

01:27:42.000 This is I literally talk for a living.

01:27:44.000 I did three services this morning.

01:27:46.000 I did a podcast before this, so we're having fun.

01:27:49.000 You can take pictures of people afterwards.

01:27:51.000 I don't know if you knew that.

01:27:52.000 So there you go.

01:27:54.000 So, okay, recently you had a podcast regarding the peace agreement with the UAE and Israel.

01:28:04.000 We have an Israeli flag back here.

01:28:06.000 I teach on Bible prophecy.

01:28:07.000 So Israel really is the center when you start looking at the prophetic word.

01:28:12.000 But with that, your thoughts, your podcast on the UAE deal in Israel.

01:28:18.000 No, I mean, it's incredibly historic.

01:28:20.000 It's beyond historic.

01:28:21.000 It's transformational.

01:28:22.000 I mean, if the president just did this deal between the UAE and Israel, it would be considered an incredible presidency.

01:28:28.000 I mean, it's just so to have the UAE, which was a funder and a supporter of the boycott divestment sanctions movement of Israel, to now say they're going to normalize ties and allow flights and allow trade is incredible.

01:28:38.000 It goes to show President Trump's master hand.

01:28:41.000 It's like a master class in negotiation, right?

01:28:44.000 Which is moving the embassy.

01:28:46.000 I don't care what people think.

01:28:47.000 Recognize the Golan Heights.

01:28:48.000 We hold the power in this region.

01:28:49.000 And guess what?

01:28:49.000 We're going to negotiate what is good.

01:28:51.000 And all of a sudden, all these countries are like, oh, America's back.

01:28:53.000 Like, we're no longer going to be able to be micro-tyrants.

01:28:56.000 Like, that's basically what ended up happening.

01:28:57.000 And you see it.

01:28:58.000 It's absolutely incredible. 0.75

01:29:00.000 But look, the fight for Israel is very interesting because the thing that Israel and the United States have in common, it's the only two countries ever founded that were founded specifically on the Jeo-Christian ethic and the Jo-Christian morality. 0.91

01:29:11.000 That's why they're so hated, right? 0.72

01:29:13.000 And so Israel being a country of only 7 million people with half the world's Jews, where all three monotheistic religions are represented in the Knesset, where you have freedom of religion, freedom of expression, you have Christianity, Judaism, and Islam that is all allowed to freely express their beliefs.

01:29:29.000 That is the country that is the focus of 1 billion Arab Muslims all across the region.

01:29:34.000 It's really interesting.

01:29:35.000 Why does Iran hate Israel more than China?

01:29:37.000 That should be a very serious question for you.

01:29:40.000 Which country has a million Muslims in concentration camps again? 1.00

01:29:43.000 And that just goes to show this is a diabolical campaign.

01:29:46.000 It is anti-Semitism through and through.

01:29:48.000 And to also, and this is a less talked about truth.

01:29:51.000 They want to archaeologically destroy the Middle East. 0.84

01:29:53.000 Did you know that there's never been an archaeological discovery that has contradicted the Bible? 0.94

01:29:59.000 The more we dig, the more we discover, the more we confirm. 0.95

01:30:02.000 They want to be able to destroy Israel because then they can destroy the archaeological truth that we find, whether it be in the city of David, whether it be in Camperna, all across Judea and Samaria. 0.95

01:30:11.000 The more that the Arabs allow us to actually dig in that region, the more we're able to confirm the authenticity and the historical truth of the Bible. 0.97

01:30:17.000 So the fight for Israel is a fight for all things that are good and right in the world, and I'm happy to stand next to Israel. 0.94

01:30:22.000 Amen.

01:30:23.000 Amen.

01:30:24.000 Thank you so much.

01:30:26.000 I'm going to ask you this.

01:30:27.000 One final exhortation.

01:30:30.000 What should we do?

01:30:31.000 Everybody here, everybody watching online.

01:30:34.000 So can I give one shameless plug?

01:30:35.000 Is that okay?

01:30:35.000 Just one.

01:30:36.000 Please do.

01:30:37.000 So I'm in a constant battle with the New York Times on the podcast charts.

01:30:41.000 I have a free of charge podcast that I do twice every weekday and once on the weekend.

01:30:46.000 This conversation will be aired on the podcast probably next weekend.

01:30:49.000 So you guys could really bless us on our Charlie Kirk show team by doing something free of charge that takes 15 seconds.

01:30:54.000 You take out your smartphone.

01:30:56.000 If it's an Apple phone, you have a podcast app in there already download, downloaded.

01:31:00.000 You type in Charlie Kirk Show and you just hit that very big subscribe button.

01:31:03.000 It might seem like a little thing, but if everyone in this room did that, we would beat the New York Times by tomorrow morning, which is pretty much a moral thing to do, I think.

01:31:11.000 So that's it.

01:31:13.000 I just had to go to Show.

01:31:15.000 And if you have no idea how to do that, there's plenty of eight and nine-year-olds around here that can show you exactly how to do that.

01:31:23.000 So if I can give some calls to action, please do.

01:31:26.000 Pray for our nation.

01:31:27.000 It's so incredibly important.

01:31:29.000 But let's get more specific than that.

01:31:31.000 And if Pastor Rob McCoy is here, I don't know if Rob is here.

01:31:33.000 He was going to be here.

01:31:34.000 Hi, Rob.

01:31:34.000 How are you doing?

01:31:35.000 By the way, Rob is a hero.

01:31:37.000 Rob should get up here.

01:31:40.000 You guys should get a standing ovation for Rob McCoy.

01:31:59.000 So great to see you.

01:32:04.000 I'm going to let both you guys talk for just a minute.

01:32:06.000 I want to introduce Rob.

01:32:07.000 So Rob and I. Rob's my pastor.

01:32:09.000 He's here, Pastor.

01:32:10.000 You live in Arizona.

01:32:11.000 Rob is churches up in Ventura County.

01:32:15.000 We met in Israel.

01:32:16.000 Rob introduced himself to me, which I found thinking, well, how do you know me?

01:32:20.000 I know who you are.

01:32:21.000 What are you doing?

01:32:22.000 But we were at Masada.

01:32:23.000 We were having lunch.

01:32:24.000 And that was great meeting you there.

01:32:27.000 But it's great having you here tonight.

01:32:29.000 So Rob is the one who I told you about a few Sundays back.

01:32:33.000 And I said, look, he's got jail time threats.

01:32:37.000 Ventura County is after him.

01:32:39.000 Told you all those things.

01:32:40.000 So this is Pastor Rob McCoy.

01:32:42.000 He's been my hero, standing up and pressing forward.

01:32:46.000 And I want to have you guys talk for just a couple seconds, but you got to move into the camera.

01:32:52.000 And thank you for showing up.

01:32:54.000 Well, I'm honored.

01:32:55.000 I did three services like Darren did.

01:32:57.000 I finished our last one at 2.30 and busted it here.

01:33:00.000 Didn't realize how far you are.

01:33:03.000 We got to the end of the earth.

01:33:04.000 It's about 3,000 pets.

01:33:07.000 Yes, it is.

01:33:09.000 What I was saying, and Pastor Rob McCoy is my pastor, and I'm honored to call him my pastor because he fights for what is right and what is good, keeps his churches open.

01:33:19.000 But I stole something from Rob, and Rob, you can say it better than I can.

01:33:25.000 1 Timothy, pray for your leaders by name.

01:33:28.000 Talk about that.

01:33:29.000 Yeah, 1 Timothy says, pray for kings and those in authority that we would live quiet, peaceable lives in all godliness and reverence.

01:33:35.000 And I traveled the country with an organization called American Grill Project, spoken to 15,000 pastors across the country.

01:33:41.000 And I say, you all agree that's a pastoral epistle Paul's writing to Timothy.

01:33:45.000 And I say, yes, that's the word of God, yes.

01:33:47.000 And I say, look, based on that scripture, can you name your five school board members and your five city council members by name and the issues they're dealing with that allow your community to live quiet and peaceable lives in all godliness and reverence?

01:33:59.000 And you can hear a pin drop.

01:34:01.000 And, you know, when it says drain the swamp, Washington geographically is a swamp.

01:34:06.000 Sacramento geographically is a swamp.

01:34:07.000 But figuratively, they're also where the water ends up.

01:34:12.000 If you want to change the swamp, you've got to go to the source.

01:34:14.000 The source is local.

01:34:16.000 You want to light a thousand fires, dominate your school board, and dominate your city council.

01:34:20.000 You should be at every meeting.

01:34:21.000 You should hold them accountable.

01:34:23.000 You should make sure that you have godly people representing your community, walk precincts for them, host coffees for them, contribute to their campaigns.

01:34:30.000 In an election, my wife and I contribute 10% of our income, not just to the church, but 10% to any candidate running locally.

01:34:38.000 This is by consent of the governed.

01:34:40.000 And your apathy is not going to win the election.

01:34:42.000 And your visceral email that you send to your friend doesn't win an election.

01:34:46.000 You've got to do work.

01:34:47.000 This is a constitutional republic, and it's participatory.

01:34:51.000 And so that's what you wanted me to say?

01:34:52.000 That's exactly what I wanted to say.

01:34:55.000 And I'll reinforce it by we as Christians and conservatives actually have to think smaller to think bigger, which is to think locally.

01:35:03.000 People say, how do I change the world?

01:35:05.000 How are your neighbors voting?

01:35:06.000 Do they know how you stand on the issues?

01:35:08.000 Have you looked at them in the eye and explained to them?

01:35:10.000 See, we're very quick to talk to strangers, slow to talk to friends.

01:35:13.000 Very interesting.

01:35:14.000 The psychological truth to that, because we think that our friends are going to disconnect us, but actually, you have the most likelihood of convincing a friend because you have that common bond.

01:35:22.000 And so own your neighborhood.

01:35:24.000 Talk to them all about the necessary need of running for school board, supporting school board members, and yes, voting for state, local, and federal candidates that are in alignment with the worldview that you all hold.

01:35:33.000 That's one takeaway.

01:35:34.000 The second way is this.

01:35:35.000 So there are a couple moonshots that we need as a movement.

01:35:38.000 I say this every time I speak at a church, I say it on my podcast at least twice a week.

01:35:41.000 We have to double the homeschooling population in the next five years in this country.

01:35:44.000 It's that simple.

01:35:45.000 We have to double the homeschooling population.

01:35:47.000 So what does that mean?

01:35:49.000 All of you are like, oh, my kids are growing up.

01:35:51.000 Say all this pass.

01:35:52.000 No, actually, there are homeschool co-ops that need you to maybe pinch it as a master carpenter teacher class, as a history class.

01:35:59.000 Do you have a passion for something?

01:36:01.000 If you want to come up to me and hand me a piece of paper that you have written about some topic, which happens a lot, I'm sure there's somebody out there, go take that passion and go find a homeschooling co-op that needs to hear from you about a specific piece of history that you know really well.

01:36:14.000 We have to get serious about the church getting involved in the home.

01:36:18.000 This is what's so amazing is I have homeschooling mothers saying, I can't do it anymore.

01:36:22.000 I can't support my family.

01:36:23.000 I can't raise my kids.

01:36:24.000 They got to go to public school.

01:36:25.000 And I say, what church do you go to?

01:36:28.000 Because they should be the one that's supporting that entire local homeschooling community.

01:36:31.000 I know you guys do a phenomenal job of that here.

01:36:33.000 And then the third thing that I really want to reinforce and kind of the call to action that we have to get very serious about is in all communities in America, we have to cut fatherlessness in half in the next 10 years.

01:36:43.000 We have to. 0.98

01:36:43.000 We have to cut fatherlessness in half, especially in the black community. 0.98

01:36:47.000 It's two-pronged. 1.00

01:36:48.000 Number one, stop subsidizing from the government level.

01:36:50.000 And any man who calls himself a man that does the drive-by father thing is a coward and should be condemned and challenged by other godly men to get back in that relationship and raise those children.

01:37:02.000 The crisis that's happening with fatherless in this country is a real thing.

01:37:06.000 And so, by the way, this is by no means a condemnation of single mothers.

01:37:10.000 They are heroes.

01:37:12.000 They're absolute heroes, but they have too much of a financial, educational, and societal burden.

01:37:16.000 And you want to take all racial lines away.

01:37:19.000 A white kid raised by a single mom is less likely to succeed than a black kid raised by a mother and a father, by a nuclear family. 0.70

01:37:27.000 Outside of racial lines, it is too parent privilege. 0.80

01:37:29.000 In Illinois, 70% of rapists, murderers, and criminals in the Illinois correctional system, they have one thing in common.

01:37:37.000 It's not their race.

01:37:38.000 It's not their color.

01:37:39.000 It's not their creed.

01:37:40.000 They did not have a father in the home.

01:37:42.000 It is the number one predictor for crime, for homelessness, for drug usage.

01:37:47.000 It is the lack of fathers in this society.

01:37:48.000 It's because we have hyper-feminized our culture.

01:37:51.000 We have not built up good men.

01:37:53.000 But also, let's just be honest, men in this country have to start being real men, shouldering a burden to stop doing this drive-by father thing that we have allowed to happen for far too long.

01:38:03.000 So those are the big takeaways.

01:38:05.000 Homeschooling, explosion, and fatherlessness cut in half.

01:38:09.000 Those two things could help save our republic.

01:38:11.000 And those things are biblical truths.

01:38:13.000 Amen.

01:38:13.000 Thank you very much.

01:38:15.000 It's great.

01:38:16.000 Thank you, Rob.

01:38:18.000 This is great.

01:38:19.000 And I would say, vote.

01:38:23.000 Would you say worse?

01:38:25.000 I mean, look, I know what you're going to say.

01:38:28.000 I phone out these questions because it's good.

01:38:33.000 You go first and then I'll finish.

01:38:35.000 15,280,000 self-professing evangelical Christians in California.

01:38:41.000 Half of them are not registered to vote.

01:38:45.000 Of the half that are registered to vote, only half of those vote in a presidential election, 12% in a non-presidential election.

01:38:54.000 We're going to get shellacked unless we start awakening to our responsibility.

01:38:58.000 And the church has been woefully absent.

01:39:00.000 I'll leave you with this last thought.

01:39:03.000 Headwaters of the Jordan, Caesarea Philippi.

01:39:06.000 Jesus takes his disciples up there, cacophony of noise with all the gods and goddesses that they built temples to.

01:39:12.000 He turns to his disciples.

01:39:13.000 He says, who do men say that I am?

01:39:15.000 They say, some say you're John the Baptist.

01:39:17.000 He says, yeah, but who do you say that I am?

01:39:18.000 Peter chimes in.

01:39:19.000 He says, you're the Christ, the Son of the living God.

01:39:22.000 He says, blessed are you, Simon Barjona, for flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but my Father in heaven.

01:39:26.000 And upon this rock I will build my ecclesia.

01:39:31.000 That's part of my speech.

01:39:32.000 I know.

01:39:35.000 But the idea is the public square.

01:39:39.000 So we have to engage.

01:39:41.000 And Calvary chapels are pre-trippy millennial, and we believe in the rapture.

01:39:47.000 Great.

01:39:49.000 And I had one of the pastors who was my mentor who's heading up quite a large portion of it, CCA.

01:39:54.000 He said, I kind of look at it like the house is on fire.

01:39:56.000 We got to get the kids out.

01:39:58.000 And I responded and I said, look, Calvary Chapel's been doing this for 52 years.

01:40:03.000 Did you cover this?

01:40:04.000 No.

01:40:04.000 Calvary Chapel's been doing this for 52 years.

01:40:06.000 We started in 1968 with Chuck Smith.

01:40:09.000 He broke away from the Four Square Church.

01:40:11.000 1968, Bobby Kennedy was shot.

01:40:13.000 Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. was shot.

01:40:15.000 Meli massacre, Ted Offensive.

01:40:18.000 Following year, you'd have the Kent State shooting.

01:40:20.000 All the kids were burned out. 0.92

01:40:21.000 And these hippies were awash on the shores of California and they checked into Eastern religions and drugs.

01:40:26.000 He and Kay started ministering to them and avoided politics.

01:40:30.000 They taught the Bible verse by verse, chapter by chapter, book by book, 10,000% growth, 1,800 Calvary chapels around the world.

01:40:35.000 And that's conversion growth, not transfer growth.

01:40:38.000 We have largest churches in California, south of Ann Ice, 350 Calvary chapels.

01:40:42.000 But we avoided politics.

01:40:44.000 68, Reagan was governor.

01:40:45.000 We had the fifth largest GDP.

01:40:46.000 It was a state of the future.

01:40:48.000 Here we are in 2020, 52 years of this, avoiding politics.

01:40:52.000 Church is everywhere.

01:40:53.000 We no longer have the fifth largest GDP.

01:40:55.000 We have the sixth, maybe seventh.

01:40:56.000 We have the highest gas tax, sales tax, income tax, corporate tax.

01:40:59.000 We lead the nation in debt, poverty, and homelessness.

01:41:01.000 We're the authors of no fault divorce, transgender bathroom bills, and the most secular, progressive, sex ed curriculum. 1.00

01:41:08.000 It's vile. 1.00

01:41:08.000 You can't even show it in church. 1.00

01:41:10.000 But here's the kicker.

01:41:11.000 We've aborted more children in the state of California than the entire population of Canada.

01:41:16.000 That's what happens when you avoid the ecclesia, the public square.

01:41:20.000 Now, if you want to tell me that the house is on fire, we're going to get the kids out.

01:41:23.000 That's great for evangelism.

01:41:25.000 Every eschatology comes with an asset and a liability.

01:41:27.000 But we don't know the day or the hour.

01:41:29.000 We can look at the signs, but never lose sight of this.

01:41:33.000 Your eschatology is not justification for your apathy.

01:41:38.000 Otherwise, you might as well look at Greta Thunberg because she has a better outcome for the world and just tell your kids, look, we're just polishing brass on the Titanic.

01:41:48.000 What I would say is, if the house is on fire, get the kids out, then put the fire out and rebuild the house.

01:41:54.000 My point is, I am pre-trip pre-millennial.

01:41:58.000 But Jesus said, occupy until I come.

01:42:00.000 We have to start investing in generations to come and step back into the public square.

01:42:04.000 That's it.

01:42:04.000 Amen.

01:42:05.000 Thank you very much, Rob.

01:42:06.000 Thank you.

01:42:07.000 Thank you guys.

01:42:13.000 Thank you guys so much for listening.

01:42:14.000 Please consider getting involved with Turning Point USA.

01:42:17.000 You can get involved at tpusa.com, tpusa.com.

01:42:21.000 Get engaged, get involved for the fight for our country on high school and college campuses across America.

01:42:28.000 Please email us your thoughts at freedom at charliekirk.com, freedom at charliekirk.com.

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01:42:45.000 Talk to you soon.

The Charlie Kirk Show - September 11, 2020

Marxism, Lockdowns, The Church, and the Attack on our College Campuses with Pastor Tom Hughes

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