The Charlie Kirk Show - Mass Deportations: What's the Holdup?

00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, Charlie Kirk here, live from the Bitcoin.com studio.

00:00:04.000 John Yoo joins the program with some very heavy news about deportations.

00:00:07.000 The courts are going to stop it. 0.99

00:00:09.000 They're going to try to stop it.

00:00:10.000 We're going to dive deep into this and see how we can solve it.

00:00:12.000 Tim Murtaugh joins us about...

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00:01:27.000 Joining us now is John Yu, distinguished visiting professor at University of Texas at Austin and law professor at UC Berkeley.

00:01:33.000 So, Professor Yu, I have several questions here.

00:01:37.000 What due process is an illegal alien afforded to if they have been here for, let's say, three years? 0.99

00:01:43.000 And without warrant, without invitation, what kind of due process constitutionally do they have to have before we're allowed to return them to their country of origin? 0.98

00:01:53.000 Charlie, great to be with you.

00:01:54.000 Thanks for having me back.

00:01:56.000 Everybody should understand that when we say due process, it means different things in different places.

00:02:02.000 So the ultimate form of due process is when you or I are charged by the government with a crime.

00:02:07.000 Then we get jury trials, we get Miranda warnings, we get the right to a lawyer.

00:02:11.000 Even at the government's expense, we have the right to appeal all the way to the Supreme Court, and so on.

00:02:16.000 That's not the kind of due process that illegal aliens get.

00:02:19.000 They can get a fairly minimal amount of due process.

00:02:24.000 Maybe all the right they have is to be presented for an immigration judge, have the right to claim that they're not who the government says they are, maybe get a right to go to a federal court after that, and then it's done.

00:02:38.000 And they don't get a jury trial.

00:02:40.000 It's not a criminal proceeding where the government has to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the alien is here illegally.

00:02:46.000 It's a much lower standard of evidence.

00:02:48.000 And it can be done quickly and swiftly.

00:02:50.000 Okay, so the quickly and swiftly, though, And the way that this is working, though, they're saying that some of these court dates are going to be years of proceedings per illegal alien.

00:03:04.000 I mean, we could potentially only be able to deport a couple hundred thousand people under this.

00:03:11.000 This is largely unworkable.

00:03:13.000 It doesn't have to be that way.

00:03:15.000 The reason why it's taking so long is because Congress, for many decades, has refused to pay for enough...

00:03:22.000 Officials refuse to pay for enough border agents, refuse to pay for a wall, refuse to pay for enough immigration judges.

00:03:28.000 If you could have more immigration judges, you could speed that whole process up.

00:03:32.000 And I think that's actually in part what the Trump administration is trying to do when it's trying to deport people under the Alien Enemies Act rather than under the regular immigration laws, is that they're trying to impress on everybody the need for speed and that the speed is really up to Congress.

00:03:49.000 Congress has to provide more money.

00:03:51.000 And Congress has said they always say they want to help fix the border problem.

00:03:55.000 Well, here's their great chance to do it.

00:03:58.000 Right. So let's just go a level deeper into this, which is this seems like it's completely and totally unworkable right now.

00:04:05.000 People in our coalition are frustrated because it seems like left-wing courts are in fact requiring a full three-year process for every illegal alien.

00:04:13.000 Is there any way for the administration to create more immigration judges without direct congressional action?

00:04:19.000 Well, this is why this other area that they're fighting about, empowerment and reallocating funding, downsizing the government, closing down wasteful spending, maybe you can move some of that money.

00:04:29.000 During this time of emergency, the one thing Trump has done is declared a national emergency at the border because of immigration.

00:04:35.000 That gives him the ability, perhaps, to move some more money.

00:04:39.000 Also, he has to, I think, fight with these wayward road trial judges.

00:04:43.000 There are trial judges in the country who, I think, have gone beyond their constitutional role and are trying to interfere with the executive branch, with the president's rightful authority over national security and immigration.

00:04:56.000 But at bottom, it's really a question of resources.

00:04:59.000 You have to speed up these hearings.

00:05:02.000 You have to speed up the detentions at the front level.

00:05:05.000 And then you have to fight with the courts, go all the way to the Supreme Court if necessary, to make clear to these lower court judges that they don't have the right, as you say, Charlie, to turn it into a three-year process when it could be less than a year.

00:05:19.000 It could be done quickly if there's cooperation between the Congress and the President and the courts.

00:05:24.000 Right. So you've raised some questions about Trump's use of the Alien Enemies Act.

00:05:29.000 You've obviously had criticisms for the district court judges.

00:05:32.000 What is a workable off-ramp here where we uphold the SCOTUS rulings?

00:05:37.000 I worry what you see here are you've got these district judges, some of whom want to press and create some kind of constitutional crisis by going beyond their role.

00:05:46.000 At the same time, I think there's some people in the Trump administration who could also pull us away from the brink of some kind of confrontation.

00:05:54.000 And I actually think the Supreme Court has intervened several times to give the benefit of the doubt to the Trump administration.

00:06:00.000 So, for example, when they told the trial judge in this Garcia case, you can't force the government to bring Garcia immediately into court.

00:06:08.000 What are you going to do, order the president to invade El Salvador and grab him out of the prison?

00:06:12.000 They said, no, re-examine.

00:06:14.000 The government has to facilitate his return, but judges have to respect the president's authority under the Constitution into foreign affairs.

00:06:22.000 Courts can't order the president. 0.98

00:06:27.000 On the other hand, I think Trump has the authority to declare an invasion, but he needs to tell the American people and the courts why we're under invasion, why we're at a state of war with Venezuela, why this Tren del Aragua group is a terrorist group that's acting as an arm of the Venezuelan government.

00:06:45.000 The more he can provide that information, the easier it is for the courts to accept it.

00:06:50.000 And then we can step away from the brink of some kind of confrontation between the president and the judiciary.

00:06:56.000 So, are there any other potential solutions here?

00:07:00.000 Because Trump does act as the commander-in-chief, and we know what's happening here, is that far-left-wing activists are trying to slow down the gears of deportation.

00:07:09.000 Basically, without a fix here, we will not have mass deportations.

00:07:12.000 We'll actually have less deportations than Obama or even Biden did.

00:07:16.000 I'm afraid that's right.

00:07:17.000 I mean, part of what...

00:07:18.000 Trump really is doing here, I think he is doing and has to do, is to deter people from coming in the first place, or to make clear if they hit the border, they're going to be turned right around and sent back.

00:07:30.000 And so one part of that is showing that we're not going to have the open borders that Biden did, that we're not going to just catch people and release them into the country, that we're going to tighten up the immigration rule process.

00:07:42.000 But another part of that is, as you suggest, Charlie, we have to start speeding up.

00:07:47.000 The role of the court so that they can't delay every single deportation into a three-year odyssey where people can spend years and years here while their lawyers just delay things in court.

00:07:59.000 And so I think there is some value for President Trump fighting these rogue district judges all the way to the Supreme Court.

00:08:05.000 But also...

00:08:11.000 I think he's having a lot of effect there.

00:08:18.000 Under Biden's worst months in his open borders policy, we were catching or encountering maybe 350,000 a month, illegal aliens a month at the border.

00:08:28.000 You know what, Charlie?

00:08:29.000 That number is down to 7,000 a month.

00:08:31.000 That's an amazing achievement.

00:08:33.000 And I think Trump has to keep this.

00:08:35.000 Strong deterrent, in effect, in order to keep those numbers low and keep them dropping.

00:08:41.000 Yeah, we're only on pace right now for about 292,000 deportations a year, largely because of the courts and just kind of slowing it down to this grinding process.

00:08:52.000 And so I know that you've argued for executive authority and ability here.

00:08:57.000 It's just very hard for our audience to comprehend why is it someone who breaks into our country? 1.00

00:09:02.000 Should be afforded all of these extra legal rights when they're not a U.S. citizen.

00:09:08.000 So explain that to us.

00:09:09.000 I know it's very hard for people to understand, but the 14th Amendment's guarantee of due process doesn't only apply to citizens.

00:09:18.000 It also applies to all people in the United States.

00:09:22.000 So everyone in the United States, even people who get into the country illegally, have a right to due process.

00:09:28.000 But the important thing for people to remember

00:09:30.000 The government and the courts have recognized that illegal aliens shouldn't get the same level of due process as, say, you and me, Charlie, if we commit a crime.

00:09:43.000 That's why they don't get all the protections of the Bill of Rights that you will get in a criminal trial.

00:09:47.000 That's why there is the ability to speed up the process, to allow the government to present proof, and to have...

00:09:53.000 The alien tried to prove that he's not here illegally or she's here illegally, but then if they lose, they should be deported quickly. 0.90

00:10:01.000 Maybe it's the case that Congress should expand the number of judges, expand the number of border agents, but then make the due process even lighter and make the process proceed even faster.

00:10:12.000 Yeah, I hope that happens, but it does not look good at this point.

00:10:18.000 The will of the people will be thwarted by an unelected judiciary, it seems.

00:10:22.000 I'm afraid that's true.

00:10:23.000 And this is really up to the Supreme Court now.

00:10:25.000 It's the Supreme Court's problem.

00:10:26.000 There are about 1,000 federal trial judges sitting all around the country.

00:10:32.000 Some of them obviously do not agree with President Trump's immigration agenda.

00:10:36.000 They would be more than happy to have the Biden system where years and years and years are spent hearing deportation cases.

00:10:43.000 It's up to the Supreme Court.

00:10:45.000 And Trump is sending cases forward that give them the opportunity to control.

00:10:50.000 To make clear that these rogue trial judges are not there to try to frustrate the agenda that the majority of Americans support when they elected President Trump to speed up the immigration deportation system.

00:11:04.000 That said, the judges are there to make sure that the due process protections are observed and honored.

00:11:11.000 And I think there is the possibility of a compromise between the two branches.

00:11:15.000 The worst thing can happen is if these rogue trial judges keep slowing things down and frustrates the agenda that the majority of Americans voted for in the immigration area.

00:11:26.000 John Yoo, thank you for your time here.

00:11:34.000 I certainly hope we have a more optimistic conclusion here because it's not good for anybody, not good for our country, if all of a sudden the people vote for something and they don't not just get it, but they will get so significantly thwarted.

00:11:46.000 So thank you so much for your time.

00:11:47.000 I couldn't agree with you more, Charlie.

00:11:49.000 Thanks very much for having me back.

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00:12:40.000 Senator Dick Durbin from my home state of Illinois is not running for re-election.

00:12:46.000 To give you an idea, Dick Durbin has been a U.S. Senator since I was four years old.

00:12:54.000 I'm 31. He's been a senator for as long as I have memory.

00:12:59.000 Senator Dick Durbin, from the state of Illinois, has been the number two Senate Democrat since 2005, for over 20 years.

00:13:10.000 Durbin reflects a lot of the rot among Democrats for over half a century.

00:13:14.000 He's a lot like Joe Biden, actually.

00:13:17.000 A lot.

00:13:17.000 When he first joined Congress, he favored a constitutional amendment to reverse Roe v.

00:13:22.000 Wade. Now he's a fanatical abortion supporter and wants abortions paid for with Medicaid.

00:13:28.000 He's been the biggest pusher of the DREAM Act.

00:13:31.000 He wants to have mass amnesty under all circumstances.

00:13:34.000 He's been a leading advocate for the DREAM Act.

00:13:38.000 He introduced it in 2001.

00:13:40.000 He was a vocal opposition to the Born Alive Abortion Survivors Protection Act.

00:13:47.000 Durbin voted against the legislation which would have said that if a baby is born alive, you must allow it to live in an abortion.

00:13:56.000 Dick Durbin, major supporter of men and female sports.

00:14:02.000 Durbin vocally opposed the Protection of Women in Girls Sports Act.

00:14:06.000 He contended the bill infringed on the rights and dignity of transgender youth.

00:14:11.000 In addition, Dick Durbin is the worst of the Democrat Party.

00:14:16.000 And by the way, he didn't just support the DREAM Act, he wrote the DREAM Act.

00:14:21.000 He basically is the original amnesty Democrat.

00:14:25.000 But Dick Durbin, tragically, embodies what's happened to my home, my home state of Illinois.

00:14:33.000 When he entered the Senate, as I mentioned, he was pro-life, and now he's radically pro-abortion.

00:14:39.000 Dick Durbin became more and more radical as Illinois has cratered.

00:14:45.000 As Illinois has moved away from the center and has become a left, left-wing state, with it was Dick Durbin.

00:14:53.000 Dick Durbin has never done anything meaningful for the state of Illinois.

00:14:56.000 Under his leadership as a U.S. senator, Illinois has dramatically lost population.

00:15:02.000 Chicago has become a laughingstock.

00:15:04.000 It's become more dangerous.

00:15:05.000 It's become more impoverished.

00:15:06.000 It's become less of a center of industry and business.

00:15:11.000 As Dick Durbin has been a U.S. Senator, we have lost major companies that otherwise would have been headquartered in the great state of Illinois.

00:15:17.000 And it is hard for me to even say this, because Illinois should be one of the leading states in the country.

00:15:23.000 It's people, work ethic, central geography.

00:15:28.000 Illinois should be a leader in industry.

00:15:31.000 But Dick Durbin is a parasite.

00:15:33.000 Dick Durbin has never created anything in his life.

00:15:35.000 He attaches on to other people's success, and it will ruin it.

00:15:40.000 Dick Durbin has not improved the well-being or the life of the people of Illinois.

00:15:44.000 And whoever replaces him will probably be some radical activist from Chicago.

00:15:48.000 They'll probably have some DEI Olympics or something.

00:15:51.000 The best thing that Dick Durbin has ever done is actually retire, unlike Pelosi or Bernie.

00:15:57.000 Dick Durbin has vocally supported the get-out-of-jail-with-zero-bail-nonsense that has infected the great state of Illinois.

00:16:05.000 And I talk about Illinois with great lamentation.

00:16:08.000 And it's because of people like Dick Durbin.

00:16:11.000 And it is a cabal.

00:16:12.000 People like Mike Madigan, people like Dick Durbin, they all work together and in harmony to drive Illinois off of a cliff.

00:16:19.000 While the other neighboring states have done quite well.

00:16:23.000 Indiana has done quite well.

00:16:25.000 Tennessee has done quite well.

00:16:27.000 There's no reason why Illinois should have not kept pace.

00:16:30.000 However, Dick Durbin was part of a Democrat mafia that assumed complete control and power of Illinois in the late 1990s.

00:16:37.000 Under that mafia, they realized to pander to the public sector teacher unions, to keep taxes high, burdensome regulation, to give Chicago whatever it wants, to not rein in the crookedness of Cook County.

00:16:51.000 And it pains me to say this because I love Illinois.

00:16:54.000 I love Chicago.

00:16:55.000 We just had incredible crowds when we visited.

00:16:57.000 But Dick Durbin is the worst of the state of Illinois.

00:17:00.000 And that's too bad because there's some phenomenal people in Illinois.

00:17:04.000 And I say this.

00:17:05.000 I do not know if Illinois can be saved in the next 10 years, the next 20 years.

00:17:09.000 It might have to hit total rock bottom before Illinois can rebuild itself. 0.87

00:17:14.000 The collar counties like DuPage and Lake, which used to be somewhat Republican counties, are all blue.

00:17:21.000 DuPage used to be a Republican stronghold.

00:17:23.000 It is completely blue.

00:17:24.000 It's too bad, and it's a tragedy, really.

00:17:27.000 And Dick Durbin is largely to blame for that.

00:17:30.000 So corrupt, so selfish, so pandering to foreigners over Americans. 0.96

00:17:34.000 Dick Durbin is retiring in disgrace and he's leaving a worse state as he leaves.

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00:18:43.000 Joining us now is Tim Murtaugh, who is the former communications director for Trump 2020 and also the Trump 2024 senior advisor.

00:18:52.000 Tim, great to see you.

00:18:53.000 You have a unique premise and vantage point because you warned about so much of Biden's failures in the 2020 campaign.

00:19:00.000 And now we actually have to unravel so much of what we've inherited from Joe Biden.

00:19:04.000 So talk about some of the predictions you made that came true, some things that were even worse, and the work that now President Trump has to do to unravel this inheritance.

00:19:13.000 That Joe Biden gave him.

00:19:15.000 Yeah, well, it's great to be with you, Charlie, and thanks very much for having me on.

00:19:19.000 We did, we tried to warn everybody in 2020 what America would get itself into if Joe Biden became president of the United States, and by God, we were right about almost all of it.

00:19:28.000 I mean, you may remember that he ran what everybody was calling the basement strategy, and we said that it was because he wasn't up to the challenge of going out on the campaign trail, articulating his ideas, answering questions coherently from the news media, and actually running a campaign.

00:19:46.000 We were right about that.

00:19:48.000 Of course, the national news media said, oh, that was crazy.

00:19:51.000 They're just being careful because of COVID.

00:19:53.000 He's only hiding in the basement because they don't want him to get sick.

00:19:56.000 And then, of course, they all played along the whole time he was in the White House when they were concealing his mental decline and all of that.

00:20:02.000 And we said that Joe Biden was going to be a disaster for a lot of things.

00:20:05.000 We said he was going to be a disaster on the economy.

00:20:07.000 We said that we talked about immigration a lot.

00:20:11.000 We said Joe Biden, and if you let Joe Biden and the Democrats be in charge of the White House, they are going to throw open the gates of America, and they are going to let millions upon millions of illegal aliens into this country, basically no questions asked. 0.96

00:20:25.000 We pointed that out day after day after day.

00:20:28.000 Of course, the national news media said, first of all, that's racist.

00:20:30.000 And second of all, you have...

00:20:32.000 No, nothing to base that on.

00:20:33.000 That is a baseless claim.

00:20:34.000 Their favorite thing to say was, you know, the Trump campaign claimed without evidence, they used to say.

00:20:39.000 Well, now we've got plenty of evidence.

00:20:42.000 And of course, President Trump is digging out from under of the, you know, tens of millions of illegal aliens that are somewhere across this country.

00:20:49.000 And every single time he does, the Democrats and the news media latch onto these stories.

00:20:55.000 We've seen it with the alleged Maryland man and all that.

00:20:58.000 And I think this is one of the greatest thing, I think, that President Trump is trying to do is defend the sovereignty of the United States of America.

00:21:06.000 And that begins with fighting off the illegal aliens and deporting the ones who are already here. 0.97

00:21:12.000 So Donald Trump won a triumphant victory.

00:21:15.000 What people don't understand, though, is when you win and power is changed from one regime to another, from a Democrat to a Republican, you have to get into the weeds to decouple.

00:21:26.000 To decouple away from so much of the decisions the prior administration made.

00:21:32.000 And we're still learning about some of the gunk, some of the trash that Joe Biden left us, and also some of the landmines that Joe Biden left us.

00:21:42.000 I mean, I hear from agency officials and from cabinet secretaries, they'd say, you have no idea, not just the staffing of the deep state, but...

00:21:49.000 Regulatory measures, decisions that were made in the prior administration at the 11 p.m. midnight that can't be undone for a certain period of time or else there's going to be a court injunction.

00:22:00.000 Tim, what also is Donald Trump working on as far as things that Joe Biden left him, the landmines and the decisions that he has to course correct on?

00:22:09.000 Well, there's one big one that has begun to come to light because President Trump just issued an executive order just last week on this, and it's inside the poorly named—I know everyone loves to name bills on the left.

00:22:21.000 They name bills for exactly what they are not.

00:22:23.000 But inside the Inflation Reduction Act, which did absolutely nothing to solve the problem of inflation that Joe Biden left President Trump, inside the IRA there was something that's come to be known as the Biden pill penalty.

00:22:37.000 And what that is, is Joe Biden favored one form of medicine over another form of medicine.

00:22:43.000 He favored what are called large molecule medicines.

00:22:45.000 Think of things that you have to go to the hospital for, IVs and infusions, injections, those sorts of things.

00:22:51.000 Favored those at the expense and discriminated against pill form medicine.

00:22:57.000 And that's just a ridiculous idea because pills...

00:23:00.000 are 71% cheaper on average than other forms of medicine.

00:23:04.000 They're cheaper to make.

00:23:05.000 They're cheaper for patients.

00:23:07.000 They're cheaper for the entire healthcare community.

00:23:10.000 And look, patients groups, doctors groups, yeah, pharmaceutical companies, business groups, conservative groups, everyone told the Democrats at that time, if you do this, this is what's going to happen.

00:23:21.000 And so it passed with zero Republican votes.

00:23:24.000 And what came to pass was exactly what was predicted.

00:23:27.000 70%. Three quarters of the R&D dollars have moved away.

00:23:32.000 From pills.

00:23:33.000 That means that no new breakthroughs are happening.

00:23:36.000 And we're talking about mental health drugs, Alzheimer's drugs, cancer drugs, those sorts of things.

00:23:41.000 That means fewer pills hitting the market, raising costs for everyone.

00:23:45.000 And again, pills are the cheaper, more effective way that people get their drugs.

00:23:50.000 71% cheaper on average.

00:23:52.000 And that's what Joe Biden left us.

00:23:54.000 The Biden pill penalty.

00:23:55.000 And there is legislation in Congress to fix that.

00:23:58.000 It's called the EPIC Act.

00:23:59.000 But more likely, it'll be in the, as the president...

00:24:06.000 It's the Biden pill penalty, and it really, it's raising costs of the healthcare system.

00:24:11.000 Heck, Joe Biden said he was going to be the guy who cured cancer.

00:24:14.000 Well, he actually made it more difficult by discriminating against and discouraging the creation of life-saving pills, life-saving medicines that people are used to.

00:24:25.000 It's disgraceful.

00:24:26.000 And in the Inflation Reduction Act, there's over $370 billion to...

00:24:30.000 Climate change initiatives.

00:24:32.000 I mean, it's all over the place.

00:24:34.000 So what did President Trump do last week?

00:24:37.000 Remind our audience what exactly he signed and the significance of it.

00:24:40.000 Yeah, so it's an executive order that addressed the reduction of prescription drugs for Americans, which is of main concern.

00:24:47.000 I'm paying attention to this.

00:24:49.000 I have elderly parents and, like most people, other elderly people in my family, and the cost of the system is of great concern.

00:24:57.000 And the EO that he signed instructs the Secretary of Health and Human Services, that's Robert F. Kennedy Jr., of course, to work with Congress, specifically mentioned in the EO, is to get rid of what's known as the Biden pill penalty.

00:25:10.000 Now, another way that the Biden pill penalty has been terrible, think about generic drugs.

00:25:16.000 Generic drugs are a very cost-effective way that a lot of people get their medication.

00:25:21.000 Think of Lipitor, for example, which is a well-known cholesterol drug.

00:25:24.000 Because of generics, People can get their cholesterol medicine for basically pennies per dose.

00:25:32.000 Well, the Biden pill penalty flatly discourages generics from even entering the market.

00:25:38.000 And so those cost reductions never occur.

00:25:41.000 And Charlie, I know this will resonate with the MAGA community here.

00:25:45.000 Guess who has noticed what's going on with the Biden pill penalty?

00:25:49.000 You're never going to believe it, but China.

00:25:51.000 China knows what's going on, and China knows an opportunity when they see it, and they are investing in pill medicine, research and development in ways that they have never done before because they know that pills are the cheaper way, the more effective way for people to get their medicine.

00:26:07.000 People will take the medicine they need if it's convenient to them.

00:26:11.000 Heck, you can get pills in the mail.

00:26:12.000 And so they're keeping their people healthy on the front end, while America, because of the Biden pill penalty, has backed away.

00:26:20.000 From developing pills.

00:26:21.000 And again, 71% cheaper pill medicines over these other forms of medicine.

00:26:26.000 Again, mental health, Alzheimer's, cancer, all kinds of drugs.

00:26:29.000 The University of Chicago says 188 different cures have not been found since 2021 when the IRA and the pill penalty were introduced.

00:26:38.000 And that means 116 million life years off the life expectancy of Americans who are living today.

00:26:45.000 Is that your family?

00:26:46.000 My family?

00:26:47.000 I don't know.

00:26:47.000 But it's the Biden pill penalty.

00:26:50.000 Well, I'm not exactly sure what I'm going to predict what he's going to put out in executive orders,

00:27:05.000 but I can tell you that the America First policies, and you're exactly right, when you're ripping the Band-Aid off and when you're in there digging in and trying to undo some of the stuff that's taken hold.

00:27:16.000 Just look at the way that the swamp is reacting to him.

00:27:19.000 Look at the way that they're attacking Pete Hegseth, for example.

00:27:22.000 Anytime you bring in a starkly new direction of leadership, this is the kind of reaction you're going to get.

00:27:29.000 And I love that CNN was forced to admit that it's basically a rounding error.

00:27:34.000 Only 2% of Trump voters regret their vote despite what the talking heads say.

00:27:39.000 Oh, people are regretting their vote.

00:27:41.000 No, they don't.

00:27:42.000 No, they don't.

00:27:42.000 More people regret voting for Kamala Harris.

00:27:46.000 Donald Trump is doing exactly what he said he was going to do on the campaign trail.

00:27:49.000 No one should be surprised.

00:27:50.000 He's coming up on the 100 day mark and full steam ahead.

00:27:53.000 Tim, thanks so much.

00:27:54.000 Come back soon.

00:27:55.000 Really appreciate it.

00:27:56.000 Thank you.

00:27:56.000 Great. Thank you, Charlie.

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00:29:02.000 Rosie O'Donnell has decided to self-deport. 0.89

00:29:05.000 And to the previous segment, I do want to play off of this, and we're going to go to Rosie O'Donnell.

00:29:09.000 That conversation with Professor Yu is a little bit disturbing.

00:29:14.000 Now, mind you, one part I should have mentioned is that there are 1.6 million illegals that have deportation orders.

00:29:20.000 They've had their due process, so we can ship them out immediately.

00:29:23.000 So let's do that while we are fighting with the courts.

00:29:26.000 Eric emailed us, and Eric is exactly right.

00:29:28.000 It's exactly right.

00:29:30.000 And so the 1.6 million people that are scheduled for deportation, we need to get them all out immediately. 1.00

00:29:36.000 The ones that have already gone through all of the process.

00:29:39.000 The most important thing, though, is that the border itself is closed.

00:29:42.000 And separately, we also need to encourage self-deportation like Rosie O'Donnell. 0.87

00:29:48.000 Rosie O'Donnell is having fun in Ireland.

00:29:51.000 Play cut 298.

00:29:52.000 For joining us, as you know, some people entertain the idea of moving abroad after the 2024 election.

00:29:58.000 You actually did it.

00:29:59.000 Tell us about your experience so far, and do you have any regrets?

00:30:05.000 I have no regrets.

00:30:07.000 Not a day has gone by that I thought it was the wrong decision.

00:30:10.000 I was welcomed with open arms.

00:30:12.000 I knew after reading Project 2025 that if Trump got in, it was time for me and my non-binary child to leave the country.

00:30:21.000 And although I was not one of the celebrities who announced that that's what I would do, I made the decision within my family and my therapist, and should he win?

00:30:32.000 And then when he did, we made the plan into action.

00:30:38.000 If a child of Rosie O'Donnell is nonbinary, you can guarantee you that Rosie O'Donnell had something to do with that. 1.00

00:30:48.000 It's weird how nonbinary weirdos end up with nonbinary children so often. 1.00

00:30:53.000 If you're 18 and you're trans or nonbinary, you have a mental illness. 1.00

00:30:57.000 If you're 8 and you're trans or nonbinary, your mother has a mental illness.

00:31:02.000 But Rosie O'Donnell is gone.

00:31:03.000 She is self-deported.

00:31:04.000 Is she going to make Ireland great again?

00:31:06.000 By the way, good luck with her kid in Ireland with all the Muslims running amok. 1.00

00:31:10.000 See how her non-binary kid is going to do in downtown Dublin.

00:31:15.000 I mean, this whole thing feels like an SNL skit.

00:31:18.000 The ultimate arc of President Trump's political journey is the self-deportation of Rosie O'Donnell with her non-binary child after reading Project 2025. 0.52

00:31:29.000 Tell me that it isn't satire.

00:31:32.000 You see, everybody, the immigration question in front of us, all kidding aside, is a major one.

00:31:38.000 And we know that the unelected judiciary and unelected bureaucracy are going to do everything they possibly can to slow down the gears.

00:31:45.000 But self-deportation is a big one.

00:31:47.000 This is the one part of the Alien Enemies Act that I think that President Trump wanted to employ, which is you never know if you're going to be scooped up next.

00:31:55.000 That if you are here illegally, you should go back to your country of origin. 0.99

00:32:00.000 And I will say we finally have something in common with Rosie O'Donnell.

00:32:04.000 Rosie has no regrets leaving, and we have no regrets that she left.

00:32:10.000 We can finally agree with Rosie O'Donnell about something.

00:32:14.000 Finally. President Trump on self-deportation says, quote, we're going to give them a stipend.

00:32:19.000 We're going to give them some money and a plane ticket.

00:32:21.000 We're going to work with them.

00:32:22.000 If they're good, if we want to send them back in, we're going to work with them to get them back in as quickly as we can.

00:32:28.000 We need to work on people that are going to voluntarily leave the country because unfortunately the courts are going to try to grind down the entire deportation process.

00:32:37.000 And that is a threat to the democratic will of the American people.

00:32:41.000 President Trump ran on mass deportations and the courts are preventing those deportations from happening.

00:32:47.000 Is it time to defy the courts?

00:32:49.000 No, I don't think that's the case.

00:32:50.000 I think the Supreme Court needs to rule that there has to be an expedited process to be able to get people out of the country.

00:32:57.000 Email us, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:32:59.000 Subscribe to the Charlie Kirk Show podcast.

00:33:01.000 The whole arc has come full circle.

00:33:05.000 Play Cut 299.

00:33:06.000 One of the things people love about you is you speak your mind and you don't use a politician's filter.

00:33:11.000 However, that is not without its downsides, in particular when it comes to women.

00:33:17.000 You've called women you don't like fat pigs, dogs, slobs, and disgusting animals. 0.51

00:33:24.000 Your Twitter account.

00:33:25.000 Only Rosie O'Donnell. 0.90

00:33:29.000 Took him 10 years.

00:33:31.000 President Trump got her out of America.

00:33:33.000 The first step in making America great again.

00:33:36.000 He won, and she's in Ireland with her non-binary child.

00:33:41.000 Mega. Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:33:44.000 Email us, as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:33:46.000 Thanks so much for listening, and God bless.

The Charlie Kirk Show - April 24, 2025

Mass Deportations: What's the Holdup?

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