The Charlie Kirk Show - Mass Vaccination, At All Costs with Dr. Peter McCullough and Matthew Whitaker

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00:01:15.000 Joining us now is former acting U.S. Attorney General Matthew Whitaker to talk about the Department of Justice and a lot of different stories, including the one that was breaking over the weekend.

00:01:25.000 Matthew, thank you for joining us.

00:01:27.000 Hunter Biden's plea deal could be delayed as Justice Department considers firestorm of sweetheart deal allegations.

00:01:34.000 This is a little confusing to me.

00:01:36.000 So who here is actually making the decisions?

00:01:39.000 Is this the second or third tier of the Department of Justice that is challenging Merrick Garland's plea deal?

00:01:46.000 Here, what's going on?

00:01:49.000 Yeah, I don't think it's that, Charlie.

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00:01:57.000 You know, I would say what's happening right now is the discipline of the Department of Justice is fraying because every line assistant United States Attorney knows that this deal that Hunter Biden's getting is extraordinary.

00:02:14.000 As I've talked about many times, it is outside of the mainstream of what these typical deals would get.

00:02:21.000 The fact that they blew the statute of limitations on the most serious charges and were unwilling to bring those in other districts like D.C. and Los Angeles, I think tells us everything we need to know.

00:02:33.000 And I think Merrick Garland is certainly hearing that from the rank and file.

00:02:39.000 And, you know, they're better off to kick the can down the road than to kind of take what's about to happen at Maine Justice and across the U.S. Attorney's offices around the United States.

00:02:50.000 So I think they may want to delay it, but knowing Merrick Garland and the way he's been running the Department of Justice, I would be surprised if ultimately they don't just go forward with it.

00:03:02.000 And because it's just kind of, I would compare it the way Hunter Biden's been going on these trips to Ireland and these vacations with his dad and hanging out at the White House on July 4th.

00:03:13.000 I think they're just thumbing the nose, thumbing their nose at the American people.

00:03:17.000 And it's really a shame.

00:03:19.000 So it all comes down to a judge, Mary Ellen Norika, right?

00:03:25.000 So to explain the process, right?

00:03:27.000 So if the Department of Justice brokers a plea deal, a judge has to accept it.

00:03:32.000 Is that correct?

00:03:34.000 Yeah.

00:03:35.000 So if it was just a plea of guilty to certain charges, then the judge would set a plea hearing and then set a sentencing.

00:03:44.000 This is what's known as an 11C1C plea agreement, from what I can tell, which is that the government and the defendant have agreed not only to what charges that the defendant's going to plead to, in this case, Hunter Biden, but also what the sentence should be.

00:04:00.000 And so the judge can either accept or reject that plea agreement.

00:04:04.000 I don't, you know, there's usually no discussions beforehand.

00:04:07.000 It's a filing with the court and a hearing is set to consider it.

00:04:12.000 But, you know, this judge certainly will know what cases have been before her previously and will know how those cases have been dispatched and what the sentence was.

00:04:24.000 And in this case, you know, this, I think the most extraordinary piece, Charlie, is the deferred prosecution agreement that they're entering into on the gun charge.

00:04:36.000 This is something that's not typically done in these types of cases.

00:04:39.000 I mean, depending on who you listen to, they might suggest this happens all the time.

00:04:43.000 It doesn't.

00:04:43.000 Usually, if you're going to bring a gun charge, you're going to make them plead to a felony and they're not going to get a deferred prosecution agreement.

00:04:51.000 So do you think it's possible that Merrick Garland is getting a little bit anxious or worried with looming congressional oversight?

00:04:59.000 Or, I mean, there's so many other issues involved in here, also including Weiss, the Weiss issue.

00:05:09.000 How do you analyze that?

00:05:10.000 Explain to our audience how you think Weiss plays into all of this.

00:05:14.000 Yeah, so I think the way I analyze it is quite simply that you're right.

00:05:18.000 They don't want congressional oversight of this investigation and this plea deal.

00:05:24.000 And if you still have an ongoing investigation, that limits the amount of questions Congress can ask and that you're really compelled ultimately to answer.

00:05:34.000 So I think obviously delaying this, trying to push it past some later date is certainly going to be in DOJ's interest.

00:05:46.000 The U.S. Attorney Weiss up in Delaware, everyone said, you know, he was a Trump appointee, and there's no doubt that he was appointed by Donald Trump.

00:05:55.000 He had been the first assistant in that office.

00:05:58.000 He was a career, longtime, you know, person that was well known in Delaware.

00:06:04.000 Certainly not what we would think of as a Trump supporter by any means.

00:06:11.000 You know, I worked with him just when I was at the Department of Justice, and he seemed like a fairly straightforward prosecutor.

00:06:19.000 But obviously, if you're, Delaware is a small state, and if you've been in Delaware long enough, you're going to have interacted with and know of the Biden family.

00:06:27.000 And certainly, you know, that this is no exception.

00:06:30.000 You know, nobody gets to political power in Delaware without Joe Biden and his 40-plus years in Delaware politics having some influence on their career.

00:06:43.000 So that being said, I think, you know, the U.S. Attorney Weiss certainly needs to say what happened.

00:06:50.000 You know, he's been a little inconsistent in his two letters to Congress as to how this prosecution went and whether or not Maine Justice interfered with his ability to bring these cases.

00:07:02.000 But we've been told, just to remind your viewers, we've been told that this U.S. Attorney went to the District of Columbia and that U.S. Attorney blocked him from bringing certain tax charges, that he went to Los Angeles and the U.S. Attorney in Los Angeles and the Central District of California blocked his desire to bring those charges.

00:07:21.000 To get around that, it sounds like U.S. Attorney Weiss asked for special counsel status, which should give him access to all the districts, all 94 districts in the United States of America to bring these charges.

00:07:33.000 He was denied that.

00:07:34.000 Now, Merrick Garland suggests that he never asked Merrick Garland for that special prosecutor status.

00:07:40.000 That's uh, a little bit too nuanced um really, for the purposes here.

00:07:45.000 You know, the bottom line is he was blocked from bringing charges, the most serious charges, against Hunter Biden.

00:07:51.000 So the the other question here, you know you, you being acting U.s attorney what is your opinion of Garland's conduct in front of Congress?

00:07:59.000 Do you believe that he lied to congress?

00:08:01.000 Do you believe it's time to hold him in contempt of congress?

00:08:05.000 Yeah, so I I don't think there's any doubt that he has not been uh truthful with congress.

00:08:11.000 Uh, you know, the question is, did he intentionally do that or was he not well briefed and did he not know the actual facts and circumstances of these investigations?

00:08:20.000 You know he promised that he would not interfere um uh, with the investigation.

00:08:26.000 I took that to mean not only will Merit Garland not interfere, but people under his power and control the assistant attorney generals for tax and for the criminal division, the U.s attorneys that are under his control.

00:08:38.000 Uh, and that may not be the case.

00:08:40.000 I mean, depending on what U.s attorney Weiss would say in front of Congress and I hope that he testifies sooner rather than later I think we'll finally know.

00:08:48.000 Uh, and if Merrill Garland did lie to congress, I mean he needs to be held, not only in contempt of congress, but I think this this would be an impeachable offense now, but just from the criminal side, this is kind of the clown show.

00:09:00.000 If they were to hold Garland in contempt of congress, would that referral then go to his desk?

00:09:06.000 Uh yeah, that's the interesting thing about this works, uh.

00:09:08.000 You know, I don't think our founding fathers ever intended Charlie, for Congress to rely on the executive branch to bring and enforce their contempt charges, but that's where we are, and you know they passed a law so so that they could offload that.

00:09:22.000 We know that.

00:09:22.000 You know people like um.

00:09:25.000 You know some Trump supporters uh, in the past have been held in contempt and been prosecuted.

00:09:30.000 Yeah, you know Peter Navarro and and uh, and so you know I.

00:09:36.000 I think, if we look at those cases, you're right though, that the prosecution decision would be uh, at the feet of Merrick Garland.

00:09:44.000 Now he could appoint a special counsel, obviously because of that conflict but, as we've learned, in the special counsels uh, like Jack Smith, and in the Rob Her that's looking allegedly into Joe Biden's uh uh, keeping classified information, those special counsels still report directly to the attorney general.

00:10:01.000 There's really no way for the attorney general to offload that responsibility unless he recused which I have not seen Merit Garland recuse from a single thing yet that that that's what Jeff Sessions would do, but not uh, not Merit Garland.

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00:11:19.000 So, Matthew, if you were to look at public reporting based on your experience as U.S. acting U.S. attorney, where do you believe Jack Smith is going with these charges?

00:11:30.000 Do you think he's going to try a seditious conspiracy charge?

00:11:33.000 How do you think this thing is going to conclude?

00:11:35.000 Yeah, I think unfortunately, you know, based on the reporting, I would believe that, you know, there's going to be a lot more.

00:11:42.000 We're led to believe that he's going to bring more document charges, maybe in a different district.

00:11:47.000 They're not happy with Florida nor the judge.

00:11:50.000 And so, you know, you could see them try to bring a case in D.C. or maybe even New Jersey for additional document charges, which I, you know, I think that case is completely outrageous.

00:12:02.000 I had a really good chat the other day with former Secretary Willkie on the Espionage Act and the history of it and how just, you know, it was been used as a weapon previously in our nation's history by Woodrow Wilson against his enemies.

00:12:16.000 But anyway, and then, you know, this on the January 6th charges, you know, again, all of President Trump's conduct that I can tell, you know, it's been reported is all protected First Amendment speech.

00:12:30.000 And in fact, you know, those of us that watched that speech on that day heard him say, you know, peacefully and patriotically.

00:12:37.000 And, you know, I think that to some extent is a huge hurdle to overcome for any alleged prosecution.

00:12:43.000 But, you know, this, you know, Jack Smith's been a very aggressive prosecutor in his past.

00:12:47.000 He's been slapped down, you know, for previous prosecutions he's involved in, including Governor McDonnell in Virginia and others.

00:12:58.000 So, you know, I think this is going to be a very, there's going to be a lot of new law made, to be honest with you, Charlie.

00:13:05.000 There's going to be a lot of new case law made based on these cases that Jack Smith is bringing.

00:13:10.000 And, you know, I compare and contrast that to the speed with which Rob Hurr, who's doing the Biden case, isn't investigating.

00:13:18.000 You know, we're hearing nothing about that case.

00:13:22.000 Yeah, so Bob Hurr is the special counsel that is looking into the documents with Joe Biden.

00:13:29.000 Is that right?

00:13:30.000 Yes.

00:13:31.000 He was a former principal deputy, principal assistant deputy attorney general for Rod Rosenstein, and then he was the U.S. Attorney in Maryland and Trump.

00:13:40.000 Yeah, no, so is there, is it, if the Department of Justice sets a precedent with how they've indicted Donald Trump with document retention, is it up to Robert Hurt to look at that precedent?

00:13:51.000 Is the way the DOJ works where they just kind of do their own thing?

00:13:55.000 Or is it that, hey, now that we indict a president based on, you know, document retention in this capacity, they would have to indict Joe Biden under the same thing.

00:14:04.000 They keep him unguarded next to a Corvette in a garage.

00:14:09.000 Yeah, the federal prosecution demands that you use the same prosecutorial standard for different investigations.

00:14:17.000 I think that's the whole purpose of having a federal criminal justice system.

00:14:22.000 But that being said, we're going to see if Rob ever does anything with that investigation, what standard he used.

00:14:28.000 Now, remember, there is a memo that says you can't indict a sitting president.

00:14:33.000 Well, but there's also a memo saying you don't go after candidates.

00:14:36.000 So memos don't mean anything.

00:14:39.000 You're right.

00:14:40.000 And there's, you know, the policy is also, yeah, there's a window of time where you're not supposed to investigate or go after candidates.

00:14:46.000 But, you know, we've obviously crossed that Rubicon.

00:14:49.000 You know, the President Trump case, I think, as a historical precedent is incredibly concerning.

00:14:55.000 I think just as a matter of American jurisprudence, we're in a brave new world and we're going to regret.

00:15:03.000 I think our founding fathers would have certainly suggested that we're going to regret this position we find ourselves in as this administration prosecutes Donald Trump.

00:15:13.000 It's outrageous.

00:15:15.000 It's highly unnecessary.

00:15:17.000 And I think it's inconsistent with almost 250 years of our experience here in the United States.

00:15:23.000 Well, it's deeply damaging.

00:15:25.000 And I mean, Donald Trump is going to have multiple criminal cases that he's fighting in New York, probably in Georgia, and then one in Florida and then in D.C.

00:15:36.000 They are trying to weigh him down politically in 2024, not just from a reputation standpoint, from a logistics standpoint, going from courtroom to courtroom to courtroom.

00:15:46.000 And yes, there was a long-standing memo that if you're running for the presidency of the United States, we're not going to indict you.

00:15:52.000 It has to be a much higher threshold.

00:15:54.000 They have decided to obliterate that.

00:15:57.000 Matthew Whitaker, excellent job.

00:15:58.000 Thanks so much.

00:15:59.000 All right, my friend.

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00:17:06.000 Let's dive right into it.

00:17:07.000 Joining us now is Dr. Peter McCullough.

00:17:09.000 Last time I saw Dr. McCullough was in Boise, Idaho.

00:17:11.000 Great group.

00:17:12.000 We were speaking up there and had a good time together.

00:17:14.000 Dr. McCullough, Lancet study on COVID vaccine autopsies find 74% were caused by vaccine.

00:17:20.000 Studies removed in 24 hours.

00:17:22.000 Doctor, walk us through this.

00:17:24.000 This is a stunning act of medical censorship.

00:17:28.000 This is a high-level paper.

00:17:29.000 It's all the autopsies done across all the different case reports in the world, commissioned by the University of Michigan School of Public Health.

00:17:37.000 Pulsher is the first author.

00:17:39.000 I'm the senior author.

00:17:41.000 Lancet did not view it unfavorably.

00:17:45.000 It triaged it to a lower-level Lancet journal, and we decline that because we're going to publish it in a high-level journal.

00:17:50.000 But Lancet did allow it on its pre-print server, which is non-peer-reviewed, but it went through two sets of checks.

00:17:56.000 It was perfectly fine.

00:17:58.000 Charlie, it was up overnight and it was getting huge surges in downloads.

00:18:04.000 And I think some acting entity contacted Elsevier Lancet and said, take the paper down.

00:18:12.000 We can't let the truth get out about death after vaccination.

00:18:16.000 So let's go to the question: why?

00:18:19.000 Why on earth are they censoring this?

00:18:22.000 I mean, Doctor, if my team tells me you're one of the most published cardiologists in American history, you have a lot of experience publishing data that people might not like to hear, but you have to go where the data leads you.

00:18:34.000 Doctor, why is the powerful Lancet censoring wrongthink that might go against the narrative?

00:18:41.000 What's the motive here?

00:18:43.000 The motive is continued mass vaccination at all costs.

00:18:46.000 And it does mean suppressing information on safety.

00:18:50.000 This has now come out, by the way, in the Kariati et al. lawsuit versus Biden for social media censorship.

00:18:58.000 Social media was actively censoring any information on vaccine safety, just like the medical journals are, including Lancet.

00:19:06.000 It really makes you wonder.

00:19:07.000 So right now there are 120 colleges, by the way, that still require full vaccination, full boosting for kids to go there.

00:19:14.000 And so, doctor, I'm starting to see the Overton window move a little bit, though.

00:19:18.000 Even in just upper polite society, people that were otherwise shills and peddlers of the mRNA vaccine, people that I kind of talk to here or there, they've really turned on this.

00:19:29.000 And there's, I think, a consensus agreement, 60 to 70% of the country that now either regrets getting the mRNA shot, believes it was a mistake.

00:19:38.000 Doctor, let's talk about this.

00:19:39.000 It was maybe 10 to 15% of the country, and now it's 60 to 70% of the country.

00:19:44.000 You deserve a lot of credit for it.

00:19:45.000 Have you seen similar movements in the Overton window?

00:19:48.000 Yeah, I agree.

00:19:50.000 The country and actually the world at large has realized the vaccines aren't safe.

00:19:54.000 They never worked.

00:19:55.000 You know, the CDC vSAFE data, 10 million Americans, 7.7% got so sick with the shots, they had to go to the ER, be hospitalized afterwards.

00:20:04.000 That's a huge number.

00:20:06.000 The Raspberry survey this fall sadly showed one in four Americans know somebody who's died of the vaccine.

00:20:13.000 I mean, that's a huge, huge number.

00:20:16.000 Now we have these data showing that, you know, the autopsies when they're done, and we had a standard search methodology, standard adjudication, people expert in cardiac pathology, including myself, we know what we're looking at.

00:20:29.000 And, you know, Lancet, Lancet said, you know, the methodology didn't support the conclusions, but they didn't say what about the methodology.

00:20:36.000 And they certainly didn't have problems when we are putting it up on the preprint server.

00:20:40.000 I think this is censorship after the fact.

00:20:43.000 And I think it's probably influenced by what we term in my book, a biopharmaceutical complex, a syndicate that's formed out there that does have an agenda for worldwide mass vaccination.

00:20:54.000 It really is a syndicate.

00:20:56.000 Let's go to the next story here.

00:20:57.000 New study finds zero Amish children diagnosed with cancer, diabetes, or autism.

00:21:05.000 This is a third rail, a third rail, doctor.

00:21:07.000 What does this study show?

00:21:09.000 You know, this is indicating the results of what's called going natural.

00:21:14.000 That is, in today's modern day world, where we don't have the old threats of diphtheria, pertussis, measles, German measles, polio, improvement in environmental water supply, living conditions, et cetera.

00:21:27.000 We simply don't have those threats.

00:21:29.000 Now the Amish are a real living experiment that going natural has very good outcomes and it raises the issue. 1.00

00:21:36.000 Mass vaccination of these legacy problems in children, could it be causing autoimmune conditions like asthma, atopic dermatitis, tympanostomy tubes, diabetes, ADD, autism spectrum disorder?

00:21:50.000 Three studies support the Amish, one by Miller, Thomas, and Hooker.

00:21:57.000 All show going natural with no childhood vaccines in the modern day certainly is safe and the kids are healthier than their vaccinated cohort.

00:22:07.000 So, doctor, we've seen autism used to be one in a thousand or one in 2,000.

00:22:13.000 Now it's for young boys, one in 27 to 35.

00:22:16.000 I can't remember the number, somewhere in that.

00:22:18.000 Do you believe, based on the data that you have available, that mass vaccination could potentially be one of the reasons as to why the autism rates have skyrocketed in the last decade or two?

00:22:30.000 I think you stated it right.

00:22:31.000 Could potentially be.

00:22:33.000 Here's where we are, Charlie.

00:22:34.000 We've got about 800 papers in the pre-reviewed literature, about 200 showing that autism and ADD are actually a neurologic consequence of the immune system, something the immune system in childhood.

00:22:47.000 The obvious perturbation of the immune system is hyper-vaccination.

00:22:51.000 The kids are receiving multiple vaccines in single shots now, having dramatic immune system activation.

00:22:59.000 Some children clearly have fever, some tonic clonic jerking, eye movements, and then actually febrile seizures.

00:23:07.000 Then after that, they clinically have autism.

00:23:09.000 So, I mean, those cases, I think, are clear.

00:23:12.000 But the preponderance of literature now is pointing to a connection.

00:23:16.000 It's making everybody very concerned.

00:23:18.000 Yeah.

00:23:18.000 And I mean, there are a lot of parents out there that want to delay vaccines.

00:23:22.000 And the problem is, Doctor, can you help me understand this?

00:23:25.000 Why is it that 99% of pediatricians are pathological when it comes to the full CDC schedule?

00:23:33.000 In fact, they won't allow kids to go to some summer camps or some schools.

00:23:36.000 What is it in the medical training that creates almost a religious commitment to mass childhood vaccination with no delays, no questions?

00:23:46.000 On the three-month mark, you must go through these six vaccines, hepatitis B, hepatitis A, you know, Prevnar, polio.

00:23:55.000 Some of those things might have some interesting, you know, counterpoints, but then, you know, chickenpox, DTAP, is there a money incentive?

00:24:03.000 Is there insurance incentive?

00:24:05.000 Or is it the way they are trained?

00:24:07.000 It's the way they're trained.

00:24:08.000 And, you know, there's been about 150-year vaccine ideology that the ideology is that the human system is inherently weak, that man can make it better, that vaccines are good.

00:24:20.000 By the way, Charlie, the same ideology is in veterinary medicine.

00:24:23.000 Every year, there's more and more vaccines for pets and for livestock.

00:24:27.000 So it's the same ideology.

00:24:29.000 It's never considered that we can challenge it.

00:24:32.000 We can never challenge vaccines.

00:24:33.000 And now with the COVID-19 vaccine added to the childhood schedule, everyone's saying, wait a minute, this doesn't make sense.

00:24:40.000 The financial incentives to pediatricians actually are the capper.

00:24:44.000 They're with strong ideology, strong orthodoxy, and then financial incentives.

00:24:49.000 The doctors end up railroading them on the parents without any fair discussion of safety and clinical.

00:24:55.000 No, and there's this mass guilt.

00:24:57.000 I mean, so there's some of the vaccines might be necessary.

00:25:00.000 I'm not an expert on this, but if you even ask a question like, hey, maybe we couldn't go back to like the 1984 schedule, they say you're anti-vax.

00:25:10.000 But doctor, also, it is the rapidity.

00:25:13.000 They will go through five or six or seven vaccines in one doctor's office, right?

00:25:19.000 One doctor's visit, correct?

00:25:20.000 Right.

00:25:21.000 And, you know, it's not just autism, ADD, but it's also allergic asthma, knee for tympanostomy tubes, ectopic dermatitis.

00:25:30.000 There's a clear risk of febrile seizure and death.

00:25:33.000 That's been reported with multiple vaccines given at one time.

00:25:37.000 You know, so one proposal would be to make it much more risk stratified, space them out.

00:25:43.000 For instance, little boys don't have any consequences from rubella or German measles.

00:25:47.000 It's always girls approaching childbearing years. 1.00

00:25:49.000 So we could take the boys out of the rubella program, for instance.

00:25:53.000 Hepatitis B, it's only needed in babies at birth, active drug using mothers or those with active hepatitis B. All the other children can actually skip it.

00:26:03.000 And then if they become a healthcare worker later on, like me, they can take it.

00:26:06.000 So I'm not anti-vax.

00:26:08.000 Charlie, you know, I've taken every vaccine.

00:26:10.000 I counted up the number of shots I personally received in life.

00:26:12.000 It's 69.

00:26:14.000 I've been like a push pincushion.

00:26:16.000 That's a lot, doctor, but that's under the childhood vaccination schedule right now.

00:26:20.000 I know, but listen, Charlie, I'm 60 years old.

00:26:23.000 Do you know what a child today would accumulate?

00:26:25.000 That's right, it's 75.

00:26:27.000 Yeah.

00:26:28.000 So, no, it's going to be way more than 100.

00:26:29.000 No, because the multiplicity, I got to skip chickenpox and all the other vaccines.

00:26:37.000 So the bottom line is even lightly vaccinated.

00:26:40.000 I'm at 69 shots.

00:26:41.000 40 of them have been flu shots.

00:26:44.000 But the question is being asked, when is it too much?

00:26:47.000 And the data may be emerging now.

00:26:49.000 It's too much.

00:26:50.000 We probably are going to need to go to risk stratification for what's really needed, what's really appropriate, and not just pummel these kids with salvos of vaccines.

00:27:01.000 And so, but doctor, can you also mention that as modern medicine progresses on the treatment side, is it always necessary to then, is there a question of do you need to then inoculate against the potential disease or bacterial infection if your treatments have improved?

00:27:01.000 Yeah.

00:27:15.000 For example, we can control fevers better.

00:27:18.000 You know, we have more targeted antibiotics, for example, against, you know, meningitis or, you know, whooping cough.

00:27:25.000 Is that ever factored into the conversation?

00:27:27.000 Or is mass inoculation the only methodology that we're willing to embrace?

00:27:33.000 No, it should be factored in the consequence, the conversation for sure.

00:27:38.000 You know, for sure, diphtheria and pertussis, Charlie, are treated with a ZPAC.

00:27:43.000 Tetanus nowadays, a good wound care.

00:27:45.000 We just don't have petanus outbreaks.

00:27:47.000 It's easy to treat.

00:27:48.000 You always give antibiotics with deep tissue wounds anyway.

00:27:51.000 Measles is very well supported.

00:27:53.000 It's a mild illness.

00:27:55.000 Mumps, again, very supportable.

00:27:58.000 Congenital rubella, I think there would be a case in women. 0.87

00:28:01.000 Congenital rubella syndrome is terrible.

00:28:04.000 Can be, you know, the vaccine there is effective.

00:28:06.000 There's a case there.

00:28:07.000 Hepatitis B would only be for healthcare workers or high-risk people later on in life.

00:28:13.000 The pneumococcal vaccine and flu vaccines, they simply don't work.

00:28:16.000 And recent studies show they have no protection against serious outcomes.

00:28:19.000 So I think the vaccine schedule could really be streamlined and we could probably de-risk it a lot.

00:28:26.000 The kids right now who are skipping all the vaccines though, including this study you brought up, they look the best.

00:28:32.000 Going natural right now looks the best.

00:28:35.000 Dr. Peter McCullough, I wish we had more time.

00:28:37.000 Thank you for joining our program.

00:28:39.000 And again, this is considered to be the third rail of third rail.

00:28:42.000 People are afraid to even ask this, but I could tell you what.

00:28:44.000 We get thousands of emails from young mothers and parents that are guilt-tripped by their pediatricians, held hostage by not allowing to send their kids to school because they're not perfectly on schedule, that they might want 80% of the vaccines that they say, wait a second, why don't I need hepatitis B?

00:28:58.000 And they will threaten these children, never asking about adverse events or effects, can't even have dialogue or discussion.

00:29:05.000 The current vaccine environment in America is one of the most totalitarian landscapes of discussion.

00:29:13.000 It is totalitarian.

00:29:14.000 It's very similar to what we went through COVID.

00:29:16.000 Dr. McCullough, thank you so much.

00:29:19.000 Just to make our position very clear, we don't know the answer, but probably too much on the childhood vaccination schedule.

00:29:25.000 Do what you see fit, but no parent should be guilt-tripped by a pediatrician and felt as if they're a mass murder.

00:29:31.000 You're going to lose your kid.

00:29:32.000 It's wrong.

00:29:33.000 It's terrible. 0.87

00:29:33.000 It's disgusting. 0.87

00:29:34.000 It's vile. 0.91

00:29:34.000 It's wrong. 0.91

00:29:35.000 Happens all the time. 0.95

00:29:37.000 Praise God, we have a great pediatrician.

00:29:41.000 Again, get your tickets, tpaction.com.

00:29:43.000 That is tpaction.com for our event.

00:29:46.000 Give you a little bit of an update of how things are progressing.

00:29:50.000 You know, we go into these events and we host them at Turning Point, and the team does such a great job working so hard.

00:29:56.000 And I have to tell you, we've done a lot of events.

00:29:58.000 I think this is probably the best speaker lineup we've ever had in turning point history.

00:30:02.000 And we've had some, boy, we've had some beauties, I'll tell you.

00:30:06.000 You got President Donald Trump, Tucker Carlson, Dan Bongino, Steve Bannon, Don Jr., Josh Hawley, JD Vance, Eric Schmidt, Roger Stone, Matt Gates.

00:30:19.000 And so when we go into this, I was expecting a fair amount of presidential candidates.

00:30:26.000 So we have six presidential candidates that are showing up.

00:30:30.000 Vivek Ramaswamy, Donald Trump, Eric Suarez, Governor Asa Hutchinson from Arkansas, Ryan Binkley, and others.

00:30:41.000 So we've received a no from Nikki Haley.

00:30:43.000 She has another commitment that must be more important than speaking to 6,000 super activists in the millions online.

00:30:49.000 Tim Scott is a no.

00:30:51.000 Mike Pence is a no.

00:30:52.000 Chris Christie, hardest campaign to get in touch with.

00:30:55.000 So it's not a yes or a no.

00:30:56.000 This is like completely incommunicado.

00:30:59.000 So hopefully he'll show up.

00:31:01.000 And who am I forgetting here?

00:31:04.000 I guess Will Heard, I don't really even know how we can get in touch with him.

00:31:07.000 Larry Elder hasn't contacted us back.

00:31:09.000 I expected more.

00:31:10.000 Doug Bergham, I don't think, is going to be able to make it, which is just perplexing.

00:31:13.000 It's like, where else could you possibly be this weekend that is more important than speaking to 6,000 people in person?

00:31:22.000 Millions of people online, literally, in charge of the super activists.

00:31:26.000 We got GOP chairmen there.

00:31:27.000 We got precinct committeemen there.

00:31:29.000 We got major donors there.

00:31:30.000 We got hundreds of our biggest donors.

00:31:32.000 But there must be something more important that is going on somewhere else.

00:31:36.000 But it's a testament to Governor Hutchinson, to who wants to attend, Mayor Suarez, Donald Trump, and Vivek Ramaswamy, and then Ryan Binkley and possibly others running for the presidency.

00:31:48.000 And it will be very interesting.

00:31:50.000 Again, we don't script any of our speakers, but I like watching.

00:31:52.000 I watch all the speeches.

00:31:54.000 And we'll see what they talk about.

00:31:58.000 What is the theme of the conservative movement?

00:32:02.000 It will be decided this weekend in Palm Beach.

00:32:05.000 It'd be fascinating to look at.

00:32:07.000 I think we have more, we have more press times 10 than presidential candidates that are showing up.

00:32:13.000 But we have a fair amount.

00:32:15.000 Doug Bergham is a maybe.

00:32:16.000 Good.

00:32:16.000 Hope he shows up.

00:32:17.000 By the way, I hope Mike Pence and Chris Christie and Nikki Haley, I hope they reconsider.

00:32:22.000 Now, some of you might say, Charlie, you're not fans of some of these people.

00:32:24.000 Why do you recon?

00:32:26.000 This is a program for the grassroots to be presented fairly and honestly and ethically.

00:32:33.000 Everyone gets a fair shake to make their case to the grassroots.

00:32:37.000 It's very simple.

00:32:38.000 We're honest brokers here.

00:32:40.000 Everyone will be respected.

00:32:41.000 Everyone will be given stage time.

00:32:43.000 I'm very, very firm about this.

00:32:46.000 And let's be honest, if they're afraid to speak to a Republican audience, how do they think that they can win the presidency?

00:32:53.000 We've yet to hear back from Governor DeSantis.

00:32:56.000 He's a maybe.

00:32:57.000 It is in his home state, so we hope he'll be able to make it.

00:32:59.000 The first speaker to confirm, though, was Donald Trump.

00:33:02.000 Vivek and Donald Trump were about simultaneous.

00:33:04.000 And Trump is like, I want to be there.

00:33:06.000 Bring it on.

00:33:06.000 Let's go.

00:33:08.000 A lot of respect for that.

00:33:10.000 Again, you might not, some of these people say, oh, you know, I want to, I might have another event there.

00:33:19.000 There's something more important than the Turning Point Action Conference, the center of the conservative movement.

00:33:23.000 Very thankful for what we've been able to create.

00:33:25.000 Be part of it, tpaction.com.

00:33:27.000 And I will be watching with curiosity.

00:33:30.000 If any other presidential candidates confirm, we shall see.

00:33:37.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:33:38.000 Email us your thoughts.

00:33:39.000 As always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:33:42.000 Thank you so much for listening, and God bless.

00:33:47.000 For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to CharlieKirk.com.

The Charlie Kirk Show - July 11, 2023

Mass Vaccination, At All Costs with Dr. Peter McCullough and Matthew Whitaker

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