The Charlie Kirk Show - Met Gala Mischief and Medicaid Millionaires

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00:01:19.000 It's Tuesday, May 5th.

00:01:21.000 We're here at the Y Refi Studios in Phoenix, Arizona.

00:01:24.000 How are we doing, Blake?

00:01:25.000 Oh, we're doing great because it's May 5th in Phoenix, Arizona, and it's 64 degrees out and raining.

00:01:30.000 So, yeah, this continues Blake's theme that Arizona is a fake desert.

00:01:35.000 Fake desert.

00:01:36.000 Rains all the time.

00:01:36.000 It's too cold and rains too much.

00:01:38.000 It's probably hotter in South Dakota right now.

00:01:40.000 He's probably.

00:01:40.000 Probably the only person I've ever heard describe Arizona this way, but that's why we keep them around.

00:01:46.000 Okay, it's not cooler than South Dakota right now, where it is 47 degrees.

00:01:50.000 I was going to say, we did have a spell where it was like 105 for three weeks.

00:01:56.000 Oh, yeah, in early March, and then it went back to raining for a while.

00:01:59.000 Yeah, so.

00:02:00.000 Anyways, so lots to get to today.

00:02:02.000 President Trump has just blasted Leader Thune.

00:02:05.000 We're going to get to that in just a second while we pull that clip.

00:02:08.000 But we wanted to start the show off.

00:02:11.000 In a kind of more fun and jovial way, a little lighthearted way, because it's just too easy.

00:02:17.000 It's too much fun.

00:02:18.000 And that is the Met Gala.

00:02:20.000 We knew it was happening yesterday because I saw it trending on social media, but I really could care less until you see some of the costumes, which are just too, too good not to comment on.

00:02:31.000 But let's just basically first premise this, Blake, with talking about the elitist hypocrisy of the Met Gala, where tickets cost around $100,000 per person.

00:02:44.000 This whole event functions as a massive tax write off for millionaires and billionaires, by the way, because they can just write it off as a business expense.

00:02:52.000 And they do these ostentatious displays of inequality and they rage against the machine and the man and capitalism and Donald Trump, all while wearing massively expensive outfits, all while being extraordinarily rich and elitist and exclusionary in their own rights.

00:03:14.000 And that's just too much fun.

00:03:16.000 Not to comment on, Blake.

00:03:18.000 You're a big Met Gala fan, right?

00:03:19.000 Well, so I will admit, I don't think, I feel like it didn't quite penetrate my head what the Met Gala was until last year.

00:03:26.000 Like, it would be in the news, and I was just like, okay, whatever.

00:03:30.000 And then we started covering it more consistently on this show with Charlie, and we'd react to it.

00:03:37.000 And so I guess I'm vaguely aware of it now. 0.98

00:03:41.000 It seems like an excuse to wear dumb outfits. 0.95

00:03:44.000 But I did admit, I found them pretty funny this year. 0.92

00:03:47.000 I liked, uh, I actually, I actually joked about one last night. 1.00

00:03:50.000 A Cardi B had some outfit where she looks like she's got kind of a bunch of polyps or tumors growing out of her. 1.00

00:03:57.000 She, do we have the Cardi B? 1.00

00:03:59.000 Do we have it yet?

00:04:01.000 She kind of looked like if you ever saw the 80s movie Akira, where this guy is a psychic and his body starts blowing up into a giant monster that destroys Tokyo.

00:04:11.000 She kind of looks like that.

00:04:12.000 Got it.

00:04:13.000 Okay.

00:04:13.000 I haven't seen it yet.

00:04:14.000 Hopefully the team can get it for us.

00:04:17.000 But we do have B roll of the gala, so we should put that up.

00:04:20.000 Put the B roll up.

00:04:22.000 I think that's what's that guy's name again?

00:04:24.000 Sam something or other.

00:04:27.000 Sam Smith.

00:04:28.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:04:28.000 He's the gay British. 1.00

00:04:32.000 Singer who showed up as some sort of dark overlord or something. 0.90

00:04:37.000 I don't know.

00:04:38.000 It's like Maleficent.

00:04:40.000 I'm not sure what it is.

00:04:41.000 I guess the theme was fashion as art.

00:04:45.000 The stuff out of his head makes him look kind of like an exotic insect in a way.

00:04:49.000 Well, that could be it.

00:04:50.000 It looks like a really tough thing to walk in.

00:04:54.000 This person, not sure what's going on exactly, but oh, this is we do have Cardi B coming.

00:05:03.000 The B roll of Sam Smith.

00:05:06.000 Him dressed as Satan.

00:05:07.000 If you remember.

00:05:08.000 Mindfolded.

00:05:09.000 Okay, there we go. 1.00

00:05:09.000 There's Cardi B with all of the tumor stuff around her. 1.00

00:05:15.000 Yeah, that's interesting.

00:05:16.000 Not sure what they're going for there.

00:05:18.000 Yeah, I don't think it matters too awful much.

00:05:21.000 It's just supposed to be, I think, over the top is the goal.

00:05:26.000 And so, I don't know.

00:05:28.000 Send us your thoughts.

00:05:29.000 What do you guys think of the Met Gala?

00:05:31.000 And is it just.

00:05:32.000 Are we.

00:05:33.000 Doing the wrong thing by even giving oxygen here.

00:05:35.000 That's one of the arguments.

00:05:36.000 I actually think it's prime fodder for critique.

00:05:40.000 There we go.

00:05:41.000 That one is Sarah Paulson. 1.00

00:05:43.000 She has a dollar bill over her eyes. 0.96

00:05:46.000 Capitalism blinding you. 1.00

00:05:48.000 She's worth $12 million, by the way. 1.00

00:05:49.000 Yeah, if they've forgotten, I believe the Met Gala is where AOC, she wore that. 1.00

00:05:56.000 Eat the Rich. 1.00

00:05:57.000 Eat the Rich thing.

00:05:57.000 And so similarly here, we have a person using a $100,000 ticket to wear an outfit to this.

00:06:04.000 Fantastic display of wealth and celebrity. 0.70

00:06:07.000 Puts a dollar over her eyes to be like, oh, money is ruling us. 1.00

00:06:12.000 We need to have sympathy with the poor.

00:06:15.000 It's a very performative thing.

00:06:17.000 So, actress Sarah Paulson was seen wearing a dollar bill over her face to call out the 1% who are blinded by money. 0.98

00:06:17.000 It's very ridiculous. 0.98

00:06:25.000 Paulson, as I mentioned, is reportedly worth over $12 million herself. 0.89

00:06:31.000 So, that's the kind of champagne socialism that you get at the Met Gala every year.

00:06:36.000 And it's just, It's hilarious.

00:06:38.000 Nobody does ostentatious like Libs.

00:06:41.000 Nobody does elitism like Hollywood and the entertainment class.

00:06:47.000 And yet they are the ones that live behind gated communities.

00:06:50.000 They're the ones that do not have to suffer under the decision making of Democrats, Democrat socialists.

00:06:57.000 Oh, and there's who's this gal?

00:06:59.000 This one made a lot of headlines, I remember yesterday. 0.99

00:07:02.000 This is, I'm going to get the name for you.

00:07:04.000 This is Anna Rose Phillip, the first black transgender woman with quadriplegic.

00:07:10.000 Cerebral palsy signed to a major modeling agency arriving at the Met Gala.

00:07:15.000 Okay, so we actually debated whether or not we were going to talk about this person.

00:07:20.000 I'd never heard of her before, or him, because it's actually transgender.

00:07:23.000 But that was our decision.

00:07:24.000 It's actually somebody that is a trans identifying black person who's quadriplegic cerebral palsy.

00:07:33.000 And they've somehow been signed to a modeling agency, which I find to be fascinating.

00:07:38.000 Aaron Rodgers and Philip.

00:07:39.000 It does feel like an episode from some sort of.

00:07:43.000 Program.

00:07:43.000 Like you can imagine South Park running with that 15 years ago.

00:07:47.000 Obviously, we won't knock on her for the disability, of course. 1.00

00:07:50.000 The stacking thing of disabled and black and trans, and you know, the first, and it's a very performative thing. 1.00

00:07:59.000 And then, how many boxes on the, you know, oppression Olympics can you check, sort of thing? 0.99

00:08:06.000 And it just gets at the signal status signaling aspect of all of this.

00:08:11.000 Because we'll be frank, we all knock on earth for the disability, but would it make sense to sign a person with quadriplegic cerebral palsy to be a model?

00:08:19.000 No, I can't imagine the market for that clothing is terribly large.

00:08:25.000 That's a really keen observation.

00:08:28.000 I hope it's not as well. 0.83

00:08:29.000 And yeah, I'm sorry that this person has this disability, but the whole projection and the virtue signaling of it is really. 0.90

00:08:37.000 I think I saw one post that was like breaking barriers everywhere, glass ceiling. 0.90

00:08:43.000 And I'm like, wait, glass ceiling?

00:08:45.000 This is a dude.

00:08:47.000 That's a man, actually.

00:08:49.000 So the man breaking the glass ceiling?

00:08:52.000 Anyways, none of it makes sense.

00:08:54.000 But it sure is fun to comment on and make fun of because guess what?

00:08:59.000 It's all fake, and you know what the kids say.

00:09:03.000 It's all performative, and it's hard not to laugh at.

00:09:06.000 But this is like their Super Bowl for fashion.

00:09:08.000 This is the fashion Super Bowl.

00:09:11.000 Blake, you would fit in wonderfully with this.

00:09:14.000 I would pay money to see Blake react live to this.

00:09:18.000 Oh, man.

00:09:18.000 You're going to inflict that on me next year.

00:09:20.000 That's actually what we should do next year.

00:09:21.000 Oh, gosh.

00:09:22.000 We're going to make Blake watch the red carpet.

00:09:25.000 And live reaction.

00:09:26.000 Spare me.

00:09:27.000 That would be, that would do numbers.

00:09:29.000 Email us if you want to see Blake do live reaction to red carpet experiences.

00:09:35.000 That would be great.

00:09:35.000 We did get an email from Damon said, I don't want to watch the Met Gala.

00:09:40.000 I just want to watch Blake react to it.

00:09:42.000 It'll be a two layer reaction.

00:09:42.000 Bingo.

00:09:44.000 But yes, 10 year anniversary of.

00:09:44.000 Yes.

00:09:47.000 Oh, hold on, hold on.

00:09:48.000 You're throwing me off.

00:09:50.000 I want to know would you watch Blake Neff, Mr. Fashionista, Mr. Cultural.

00:09:55.000 Icon himself live react to red carpets in general or the Met Gala and just give his honest reactions.

00:10:02.000 We'd have to paywall this.

00:10:04.000 Your honest reactions would get us canceled and fired, but it would be really entertaining, let me just tell you.

00:10:11.000 So, yeah, that's what I said.

00:10:14.000 Would you watch it?

00:10:16.000 So, email us, freedom at charliekirk.com, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:10:19.000 All right.

00:10:20.000 So, it is May 5th, Cinco de Mayo, which means it is the 10th anniversary of the tweet heard around the world, the Taco Bull tweet from President Trump.

00:10:29.000 Throw it up there.

00:10:30.000 It's important that you guys see this.

00:10:32.000 May 5th, 2016, candidate Donald Trump, out of the blue, jumping from the top rope, posts, Happy hashtag, they still use those more in those days.

00:10:42.000 Happy Cinco de Mayo.

00:10:44.000 The best taco bowls are made in Trump Tower Grill.

00:10:48.000 I love Hispanics. 1.00

00:10:50.000 That's my favorite part. 0.98

00:10:51.000 And he's got the thumbs up and he's eating the taco bowl.

00:10:54.000 For you younger people or forgetful people, we've changed so much because the reaction to this was apocalyptic.

00:11:03.000 Yes.

00:11:04.000 Yeah, now he does Jesus memes.

00:11:07.000 Which we don't like the Jesus memes.

00:11:09.000 But that's what it takes now to get people worked up.

00:11:13.000 This just destroyed the media cycle for like three weeks.

00:11:17.000 My favorite part about it is I love Hispanics! 0.83

00:11:23.000 It's so Trumpian.

00:11:25.000 It's genuinely humorous to me. 0.88

00:11:27.000 The best Taco Bowls are made in Trump Tower Girl.

00:11:29.000 All right, so I think there's a fun, easy enough tie in here.

00:11:34.000 So, go ahead and throw up that graphic of the Washington Post and the Save America Act here.

00:11:39.000 So, little Cinco de Mayo tie in.

00:11:41.000 New Mexico, all right, we're not talking about old Mexico, we're talking about New Mexico.

00:11:45.000 But the Save America Act, the Washington Post did a deep dive into what would happen state by state if the Save America Act was passed.

00:11:56.000 And we do have that graphic, if you can get it up there, guys.

00:12:00.000 But the point is, it was shocking.

00:12:03.000 There are two states in particular, Nevada and New Mexico, that showed massive shifts.

00:12:08.000 So, New Mexico, and this is based on 2024 numbers, so we don't know what they would be today, because obviously the electorate has shifted back in the Democrats' favor a little bit, which tends to happen when you're in power.

00:12:18.000 But it would go from a negative four Trump state, so Trump lost by four points, to a Trump 3.3% state.

00:12:27.000 And we should explain what's going on here.

00:12:28.000 The justification for this is among its many provisions, the Save America Act raises the requirement nationwide for voter ID essentially to you must possess a proof of citizenship.

00:12:41.000 You have hold qualifying citizenship documents.

00:12:43.000 Exactly.

00:12:44.000 So that could be a passport, it could be your birth certificate.

00:12:48.000 And the argument from critics, the argument from the Washington Post is.

00:12:51.000 Not all Americans have easy access to those documents.

00:12:54.000 And so you could imagine those people are maybe going to miss this cycle because they don't have them or they don't care enough to go and get them.

00:13:01.000 And their argument is that nationwide, it's about even between Republicans and Democrats who is easy access to those.

00:13:08.000 They say about 90% basically of both groups.

00:13:11.000 But state by state, it varies.

00:13:11.000 Of each party.

00:13:13.000 But they say overall, their argument is in individual states, there is a partisan split.

00:13:19.000 And their claim is in these swing states of Nevada and New Mexico, that.

00:13:23.000 Democrat voters in those states are significantly more likely to not have easy access to proof of citizenship, which I know Andrew and I are raising an eyebrow here.

00:13:33.000 Oh, they don't have easy proof of citizenship.

00:13:35.000 Yeah.

00:13:36.000 Hmm.

00:13:38.000 So we're disenfranchising voters that don't have easy access to citizenship.

00:13:42.000 You do the math on that one.

00:13:44.000 Another fascinating one they're showing some other states that would shift to the right.

00:13:48.000 They argue that Connecticut would go from eight points Democrat to only about five points Democrat.

00:13:54.000 So that's.

00:13:55.000 Still blue.

00:13:55.000 That's about as blue as New Mexico.

00:13:57.000 But we know that in a big year, New Mexico could go right.

00:14:00.000 Washington State.

00:14:01.000 Washington State, 10 points.

00:14:03.000 So super blue to 4.7.

00:14:06.000 So it's as blue as, well, again, as blue as New Mexico was.

00:14:11.000 And that's a much more competitive state.

00:14:12.000 That's a state where in a good wave year, you win their Senate race.

00:14:16.000 But some red states would get even redder.

00:14:18.000 Wyoming would go from R plus 21 to R plus 25.4.

00:14:23.000 South Dakota.

00:14:24.000 There you go.

00:14:24.000 23 points South Dakota.

00:14:25.000 Would go from R plus 15 to R plus 22.8.

00:14:29.000 Tennessee, R plus 14 to R plus 20.7.

00:14:32.000 Louisiana, R 11 to R plus 18.1.

00:14:36.000 So there's a lot of people that probably shouldn't be voting in a lot of states, point being.

00:14:41.000 There was one state that stood out as maybe going a little bit left, and that was North Carolina, which to me, North Carolina is going to be the new Virginia.

00:14:50.000 We're eventually.

00:14:52.000 I'm very upset about North Carolina.

00:14:54.000 We need to be ready and we need to be picking up states to potentially offset that one.

00:14:58.000 That's a tough state.

00:14:59.000 North Carolina and Georgia are going to be.

00:15:01.000 Problems for us in the future.

00:15:03.000 So, if you can pick up a New Mexico, if you can pick up a New Hampshire, if you can pick up and hold comfortably Nevada, if you hold comfortably Arizona, these become our red wall, and that's significant.

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00:16:22.000 Welcoming back to the show, first time in a little while, Ari Fleischer.

00:16:25.000 Welcome back.

00:16:26.000 It's good to have you, sir.

00:16:28.000 Thank you so much.

00:16:28.000 Thanks for having me back.

00:16:30.000 It's a joy to be back.

00:16:31.000 Thank you.

00:16:31.000 Yeah, it's a joy for us too with guys like you that came on with Charlie and then you come on with us, and we're honored to have you and lots to get to.

00:16:41.000 I, uh, hey, Andrew, if I can, you know, just as I was preparing and thinking about the show today, I went back somehow and looked through my old direct messages on Twitter and I found so many from Charlie to me.

00:16:55.000 I didn't even remember they were on there.

00:16:57.000 It was the sweetest feeling just to reread those messages.

00:17:02.000 And Charlie initiated it.

00:17:03.000 That's the kind of guy he was.

00:17:05.000 Yeah.

00:17:05.000 He was always, uh, you know, if I may be so bold as to say, I mean, Charlie was a guy.

00:17:10.000 I remember when we had you on the first time, and, you know, I don't know what the, Current context was of it, but we were going hard in the paint against something that was probably a little uncomfortable for, you know, guys of the Bush era and things like that.

00:17:24.000 And no, no, no, I'm not necessarily saying you or anything, but I remember bringing that up with Charlie, going like, you know, we should have Ari on to kind of talk about this.

00:17:32.000 And he was like so into it.

00:17:34.000 He was like, you know, that's great.

00:17:35.000 That's great.

00:17:36.000 We're going to bring everybody together and get everybody kind of, you know, and anyways, I just, he saw in you somebody that could kind of bridge different parts.

00:17:45.000 Of the party and a good ally in that stuff.

00:17:48.000 So, thank you for coming back.

00:17:50.000 So, speaking of divides in the party, there's a lot of them, but we could go into them in some respect.

00:17:57.000 I'm going to start with President Trump takes a shot at Leader Thune this morning, which is something he hasn't really done yet.

00:18:03.000 So, I want to play that clip and get your reaction, sir.

00:18:06.000 SOT 21.

00:18:07.000 Are you disappointed in Leader Thune?

00:18:09.000 Yeah, no, I'm disappointed. 1.00

00:18:10.000 I like John a lot, but he has a couple of Republicans that are foolish people. 0.97

00:18:16.000 A couple of them I like, a couple of them I can't stand, actually, if you want to know the truth. 0.97

00:18:21.000 Yeah, well, so this comes off the heels, by the way, of seeing this Washington Post report.

00:18:26.000 I don't know if you saw it, Ari, but it showed that based on the context of certain states, based on the way certain voters have certain documentation in certain states, I'll let you read into why they don't have certain documentation in some states.

00:18:39.000 But a state like Nevada would go R1 to like R6 point something, New Mexico would go D4 to R plus 3.3.

00:18:48.000 If you pass the Save America Act, you could actually be putting additional states in the Republican column.

00:18:53.000 Again, that's based on 2024 numbers.

00:18:56.000 Why are they not getting this passed?

00:18:57.000 What do you want to see happen?

00:18:58.000 Do you think it's possible with our current composition?

00:19:01.000 You know, I think the simple answer is they don't have the votes to.

00:19:04.000 What it requires is the elimination of the filibuster.

00:19:07.000 And they have 53 Republican senators, of course.

00:19:09.000 So if they lose four senators on that vote, they cannot eliminate the filibuster.

00:19:14.000 And I think that's Thune's math.

00:19:16.000 He's looked at it, he's looked in his caucus, and he's asked, Who would vote for it, and he knows where the defections are right now.

00:19:23.000 It was kind of the same problem the Democrats had when they had West Virginia senator and Arizona senator in the Democrat Party saying they would refuse to eliminate the filibuster.

00:19:32.000 Republicans have a small group of Republicans who won't eliminate the filibuster.

00:19:37.000 That's the only reason I can think of.

00:19:38.000 There's no other reason not to pass the Save Act.

00:19:41.000 Ari, do you think?

00:19:42.000 I mean, I'm all about naming names at this point.

00:19:44.000 So we've got, let's say Thune is actually in the camp of eliminating it.

00:19:48.000 We've got Tom Tillis, probably, who won't go along.

00:19:51.000 That's the one people aren't thinking about, I think.

00:19:53.000 North Carolina.

00:19:55.000 He's run sideways of the Trump admin, and so there's beef there.

00:19:58.000 Got Susan Collins, Lisa Murkowski, and Mitch McConnell.

00:20:03.000 So those four.

00:20:03.000 Correct.

00:20:04.000 Yeah.

00:20:04.000 Correct.

00:20:05.000 Or was that five?

00:20:06.000 Let me do that math again.

00:20:07.000 That's four. 0.93

00:20:08.000 That gets you down to 49 votes to eliminate the filibuster.

00:20:11.000 And who knows what Rand Paul would do?

00:20:13.000 I guess my question is if you're leader Thune, could you get a Tillis on board?

00:20:21.000 What could you do?

00:20:23.000 Here's the problem Thune just looks like he's happy that it's failing.

00:20:26.000 If I'm calling it.

00:20:27.000 Spade to spade.

00:20:28.000 It looks from the outside.

00:20:29.000 He's very content to let this die on the vine and then, you know, basically face the parliamentarian reconciliation to see if he could do it in, you know, moving forward then, which remains unclear.

00:20:41.000 So if you're consulting the communications of leader Thune, Ari, what do you tell him?

00:20:48.000 Because right now it just looks like he's complicit.

00:20:50.000 Well, you know, what he could do is try it.

00:20:52.000 He could try to put it through and let the vote fail and then prove to everybody I tried.

00:20:57.000 But I think, Andrew, you've got it right.

00:20:59.000 I don't think John's heart is in eliminating the filibuster.

00:21:01.000 because he's kind of of the traditionalist mode in the Senate.

00:21:04.000 And I've had conversations with senators who want to eliminate the filibuster about this.

00:21:10.000 And the counter, of course, is if we do this, the Democrats are going to do it too.

00:21:16.000 And the Democrats are going to do it for different reasons.

00:21:18.000 Republicans want to do it to pass policies.

00:21:21.000 Democrats want to do it to maintain or get power.

00:21:26.000 Democrats want to eliminate the filibuster to create new states because they need new seats in the Senate because they can't win on their current.

00:21:35.000 makeup of the country, they can't win enough Senate seats.

00:21:37.000 They need to create new ones.

00:21:38.000 They want to change the way we have Supreme Court justices.

00:21:42.000 To them, it's structural changes to get power, possibly including the elimination of or changes with the electoral college so the popular vote wins.

00:21:50.000 These are the things that Democrats want to get rid of the filibuster for.

00:21:54.000 Republicans want to do things to pass policies.

00:21:57.000 And that's a huge difference between why the two parties want to eliminate.

00:22:02.000 So I've always been for eliminating the filibuster, by the way.

00:22:05.000 My standard has been eliminate it, but you eliminate it in a way that it does not go into effect until the next Congress begins.

00:22:14.000 Because I'm for fairness, and I don't like either party changing the rules in the middle of the game to grab power.

00:22:20.000 Filibuster is wrong.

00:22:22.000 If you can only need a majority to pass things, which is what I think it should be, put it so it goes into effect when nobody knows who's going to control the Senate. 0.99

00:22:31.000 Nobody knows who's going to control it starting in January of 2027, just 11 months from now.

00:22:37.000 10 nine months from now, so do it that way, and it's fair to everybody.

00:22:43.000 And then whoever has power can pass things with 50 percent.

00:22:48.000 I just don't like rigging the game in the middle.

00:22:50.000 Given where we are right now, if I were a senator and this came before me, I would vote to eliminate the filibuster today, though.

00:22:57.000 You know, all right, the biggest struggle I think with eliminating it now is, as you say, we are not that far from an election, and I feel other than potentially the Save Act, we don't necessarily have.

00:23:10.000 A lot of legislation that we'd like that's ready to go.

00:23:13.000 And the chief accomplishment of getting rid of the filibuster might just be it does finally do something which we need, which is to expose which Republicans are lying to you about what they really want to do.

00:23:26.000 Because, as we've said on this show many times, the chief use of the filibuster is not to protect the minority nearly as much as it is to protect the majority from votes they don't want to actually take.

00:23:38.000 So we have Republicans in the Senate right now who say, I'm tough on the border, I'm really a hawk on immigration, but.

00:23:45.000 They would not vote to actually restrict legal immigration.

00:23:49.000 They would not vote to enable mass deportations if that vote really was going to change national policy.

00:23:55.000 And you can repeat that for issue after issue pro life issues, LGBT stuff, one issue after another.

00:24:02.000 And once you get rid of the filibuster, the Senate is real again.

00:24:06.000 The Senate is actually capable of passing bills that aren't just omnibus monstrosities.

00:24:10.000 We have a zombie Senate. 0.97

00:24:12.000 I mean, it's basically useless.

00:24:13.000 And it seems like that's all we'll get if we get rid of the filibuster now.

00:24:15.000 We'll maybe get the Save Act, which is good.

00:24:17.000 But other than that, we don't have.

00:24:19.000 Other big wins queued up.

00:24:20.000 Whereas Democrats, they have in their think tanks, in their blogosphere, they have a lot of this stuff.

00:24:26.000 They've thought about this.

00:24:27.000 They've dreamed about this for over a decade at this point.

00:24:30.000 As you say, policies they want to pass, for example, they want to bring back nationwide abortion.

00:24:34.000 They want to make a nationwide Roe v. Wade law.

00:24:36.000 That's something they would pass with no filibuster.

00:24:38.000 But they also want Puerto Rico and D.C. as states.

00:24:41.000 They want to pack the Supreme Court.

00:24:42.000 They want to enact a whole swath of things whose intent is they don't need to worry about the Republicans having a filibuster free Senate because their intent is no Republican will ever.

00:24:53.000 Hold power ever again.

00:24:54.000 I think you're really onto something big right there.

00:24:57.000 To me, one of the greatest dangers in our country right now is inaction.

00:25:02.000 If you want to have an angry populace, if you want to have a group of people who just give up on government, who say this American experiment just doesn't work anymore, this great tradition we have of sending people to Washington so they do what is in the nation's interest, but nobody can do anything because of the filibuster.

00:25:19.000 So inaction is the rule of the day, inaction is the law of the land.

00:25:24.000 This breeds cynicism.

00:25:26.000 This breeds resentment, and it breeds people giving up on our government.

00:25:31.000 I don't ever want to be in the category of being someone who gave up on government.

00:25:35.000 I will continue to cling to my ideals.

00:25:37.000 And there are going to be letdowns.

00:25:39.000 Of course there are.

00:25:40.000 But I still want Washington to work.

00:25:42.000 And the filibuster is the biggest reason Washington doesn't work.

00:25:45.000 There'll be years I hate it when the Democrats have power.

00:25:48.000 There'll be years I love it when the Republicans have power. 0.98

00:25:51.000 But you have to have a system that can get things done for better or worse and then throw the bums out if you don't like it. 1.00

00:25:58.000 That's what empowers people. 1.00

00:26:00.000 That's how we, the people, have a check and balance on the people we elect.

00:26:04.000 This inaction is the kiss of death for national unity and for making people believe government can get anything done.

00:26:12.000 I totally agree.

00:26:13.000 I think a lot of this cynicism and the nihilism that's set in, where you get these, you know, the accelerationists that, you know, that used to be sort of right coded influencers or whatever that are now saying, hey, just vote Democrat and burn it all down and we'll remake.

00:26:27.000 I mean, all of that stuff is coming out of a sense of inaction.

00:26:31.000 And a lot of this critique against President Trump, where they're saying it feels just the same as it did before, it's just a different party in charge, that's coming from the Senate.

00:26:39.000 It's just this permanent logjam.

00:26:41.000 Ari, there's a lot of consternation.

00:26:44.000 The Iran war has not proven to be popular.

00:26:48.000 Pete Hegseth, Secretary of War, just said that the ceasefire is not broken. 0.72

00:26:53.000 So they're still doing the blockade.

00:26:54.000 There's some tension there, obviously.

00:26:56.000 Exit strategy, how to bring it to a close, unsure.

00:26:59.000 But I will tell you, Ari, I've spoken to so many students through our turning point chapters and elsewhere that.

00:27:05.000 All of them.

00:27:06.000 I have not heard one student, Ari, not one said that they were positive on the war.

00:27:12.000 All of them are negative on it.

00:27:13.000 Okay.

00:27:14.000 And so there's a generational divide.

00:27:15.000 It's like, do you watch Fox News or do you get your stuff from social media?

00:27:19.000 All right.

00:27:19.000 There's like, that's the divide.

00:27:21.000 So, what do we do about it?

00:27:24.000 And is there any remedying this before midterms?

00:27:27.000 What are your bright lines of hope out there ahead of midterms?

00:27:32.000 Well, you don't want to ever conflate war with an election.

00:27:36.000 You really don't want to say we need to do this or do that because of the electoral consequences.

00:27:40.000 You don't go to war if you're worried about electoral consequences.

00:27:42.000 You go to war to win and get home.

00:27:45.000 Whatever political season it is.

00:27:48.000 What I hope here, and I think this is what President Trump is doing, is Operation Enduring Fury has now turned into Operation Boa Constrictor. 0.78

00:28:00.000 Instead of fighting with bombs and forces we were doing before, what we're now trying to do is just squeeze their economy through the naval blockade and hope that leads to change inside of Iran. 0.60

00:28:11.000 I'm not sure that this is ultimately going to work because it leaves the same people in charge of Iran. 0.85

00:28:16.000 And I think the only solution, the right solution, is you can't leave Iran stronger. 0.99

00:28:22.000 You can't let them prevail in any way in this current combat we're in. 0.87

00:28:27.000 And Trump has to see it through. 0.92

00:28:30.000 Trump's got to make sure that the Iran that comes next is a peaceful Iran, an Iran that changes the face of the Middle East, an Iran that we, for 47 years, have accepted as just the terrorist on the block that changes the Middle East, makes it the most dangerous region in the world. 0.83

00:28:45.000 Why does it have to be the most dangerous region in the world? 0.67

00:28:47.000 It doesn't. 1.00

00:28:48.000 It's been because of Iran. 0.69

00:28:50.000 So you've got to change the leadership of Iran.

00:28:53.000 It wants to be a pro Western country.

00:28:56.000 That is where you talk about the young people in America.

00:28:58.000 The young people in Iran are overwhelmingly pro Western.

00:29:02.000 They're just trapped under a theocracy that's killing them.

00:29:06.000 And so the hope is that by replacing the government, forcing them out, something else comes in.

00:29:13.000 And we don't have to be part of that.

00:29:14.000 We can't be the ones making regime change.

00:29:17.000 I learned that, having been part of what happened in Iraq.

00:29:21.000 That won't be successful. 0.99

00:29:22.000 It has to come within.

00:29:24.000 But we can create the environment where it comes from within.

00:29:26.000 And then the Middle East can be the peaceful region with a wholly new alignment of Gulf states, Israel, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, and Western Europe is going to fall behind.

00:29:39.000 Eastern Europe and these nations are going to be where peace and capitalism and prosperity come from in a changed world.

00:29:48.000 Yeah.

00:29:50.000 And I think you're right.

00:29:51.000 I agree with that assessment.

00:29:52.000 But when you talk to You know, voters, especially young people, right?

00:29:58.000 So we saw this historic surge to the right of young people, thanks in large part to the work of Turning Point and Charlie.

00:30:05.000 But I'm telling you, as soon as the Epstein stuff happened, where President Trump kind of pushed it off and didn't want to deal with it at first, we saw a huge shift, first thing.

00:30:15.000 Then Operation Midnight Hammer, we saw a huge shift.

00:30:18.000 Nothing we could message on was going to change that.

00:30:20.000 They didn't want war, they wanted Epstein transparency.

00:30:23.000 Then we get Operation Epic Fury.

00:30:26.000 Compounded the impact.

00:30:27.000 So I'm kind of just trying to be a realist here.

00:30:32.000 Like the messaging we do with our student, our turning point students, are telling me that they don't know how to defend what President Trump has done in Iran when they're tabling on campus.

00:30:41.000 So we have to sort of bake into the pie here that young people are going to go the other way here in this election.

00:30:48.000 Where do we make up the ground?

00:30:49.000 What can we do?

00:30:50.000 And what should the messaging be domestically, specifically?

00:30:54.000 I mean, the affordability, housing, whatever.

00:30:56.000 What should, what do we need to do?

00:30:58.000 What does President Trump need to do to try and right the ship ahead of November?

00:31:02.000 Well, I've been saying this even before the military operation began in late February that Republicans are going to lose the House.

00:31:08.000 I just think it's obvious.

00:31:10.000 When you look at the numbers, when you look at historical trends, when you look at what happens in the sixth year of a two-term presidency, it's hard to escape this historical pattern.

00:31:19.000 And particularly with a president whose job approval is what it is.

00:31:23.000 The president's job approval is right around 40%.

00:31:26.000 It's not horrible, but it's very low.

00:31:30.000 And this is going to be indications of a midterm that's going to be very hard for Republicans to keep the House.

00:31:37.000 So I think we're going to be in an era of divided government.

00:31:39.000 In the next cycle, and it's going to set up a Wallapalooza of a 2028 presidential.

00:31:45.000 And the other interesting thing about history is Republicans used to be the party that did well in the midterms because we were the party mostly of college educated voters who turn out every two years to vote.

00:31:55.000 Democrats were the party of a lot more blue collar working class people who came out every four years to vote.

00:32:01.000 That pattern has switched.

00:32:02.000 Republicans are now much more the party of working class people, and the Democrats are now the party of people with postgraduate degrees and college degrees.

00:32:10.000 They turn out every two years.

00:32:12.000 So Tough election cycle for Republicans.

00:32:15.000 I believe we're going to lose the House.

00:32:17.000 Senate is right now a 50 50 shot for Republicans to keep the Senate.

00:32:21.000 And it's going to set up the biggest battle you can imagine for the president.

00:32:25.000 I think this is all shaping up for a 2028 absolute dragout race.

00:32:32.000 It's going to be something.

00:32:32.000 But I will tell you, interestingly enough, one of these X factors, there's a lot of reporting going on that John Fetterman might go independent and caucus Republican.

00:32:43.000 I don't know.

00:32:43.000 I don't know if I trust it because he's still very much like a.

00:32:47.000 Democrat socialist economically, but he's a patriot and he's a reasonable guy.

00:32:52.000 He's made a lot of reasonable comments, patriotic comments.

00:32:55.000 So that's an X factor that would be really interesting to see.

00:32:58.000 I don't know.

00:32:59.000 Are you hearing anything within the Beltway, Ari, about this?

00:33:02.000 I just don't believe it.

00:33:04.000 I don't believe it because I take John Fetterman at his word.

00:33:07.000 He's always given his word bluntly and he says he's a Democrat.

00:33:10.000 He'll always be a Democrat.

00:33:12.000 And as you point out on abortion, on gay rights, on a host of issues, he is a more progressive.

00:33:18.000 Democrat.

00:33:19.000 It's just that he's reasonable on Israel.

00:33:22.000 He's reasonable on how you treat people.

00:33:24.000 He's reasonable on saying you don't shut the government down.

00:33:27.000 He's what a handful of Democrats used to be 10, 15, 20 years ago before they got drummed out of the party by the progressive movement inside the Democrat Party.

00:33:36.000 There used to be about a dozen Democrats who would do and say things like him, vote the way he does on Israel and not shutting down the government.

00:33:44.000 He's the only one left.

00:33:46.000 So he just kind of stands out because he's such an aberration in a progressive Democratic Party.

00:33:52.000 I hope that you're wrong, but I suspect that you're right, Ari.

00:33:55.000 So, yeah, because he is a socially and economically, he's way left.

00:34:01.000 You know, he always has been.

00:34:02.000 So we'll see, though.

00:34:04.000 I am hearing conflicting reports, so we're going to keep watching that.

00:34:07.000 It'd just be interesting if we end up, you know, losing the Senate 49 51 and then Fetterman switches over to independent and caucuses Republican.

00:34:14.000 That'd be fascinating.

00:34:16.000 Ari Fleischer, former White House press secretary and Fleischer Communications.com.

00:34:21.000 Check him out there.

00:34:22.000 Thank you for coming back, sir.

00:34:23.000 It's great to see you.

00:34:24.000 Andrew, great to be with you guys.

00:34:25.000 Thank you.

00:34:26.000 God bless you.

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00:37:03.000 You know, Blake, there's that old expression it's good work if you can get it.

00:37:07.000 You know, it's good work if you can get it.

00:37:10.000 And, you know, I think I'm going to go, I'm going to ditch all this current gig.

00:37:15.000 And I'm going to go into hospice care for my relatives.

00:37:18.000 I'm going to get paid professionally to have conversation and companionship with my family.

00:37:23.000 Yeah, and I think we've seen the numbers.

00:37:26.000 It seems like you could make vastly more than you could make in any sort of media job.

00:37:30.000 Millions of dollars.

00:37:32.000 Yes.

00:37:32.000 Maybe billions of dollars.

00:37:33.000 I could be a Medicaid millionaire too.

00:37:35.000 You could as well.

00:37:37.000 But guess what?

00:37:38.000 We're not because we're honest citizens, but there's a whole lot of people that aren't honest citizens that probably aren't even citizens in many respects. 0.91

00:37:45.000 Maybe they're illegals. 0.85

00:37:46.000 I don't even know what the rules are here, but we're going to find out. 0.85

00:37:49.000 Luke Rosiak is an investigative journalist and reporter for the Daily Wire, and he has a new story out that he's been working on for a couple months titled Medicaid Millionaires How the Feds Pay Immigrants Billions to Hang Out with Their Families.

00:38:04.000 So, welcome to the show, Luke Rosiak.

00:38:07.000 Thanks for having me.

00:38:08.000 That's right. 1.00

00:38:08.000 Free butlers for Somalis and Medicaid Millionaires. 1.00

00:38:11.000 You got it. 0.95

00:38:12.000 And so, okay, so we know all about Somali fraud in Minnesota. 0.96

00:38:18.000 You focused on Ohio. 1.00

00:38:20.000 So, let's.

00:38:21.000 And what I find really interesting about this story, by the way, this is the first story you're dropping in a series.

00:38:25.000 So there's more to come, right?

00:38:28.000 But what's interesting about this story is the origin of it.

00:38:32.000 So, you know, Doge was much celebrated, much attacked, part of the first 100 days and then some of the Trump administration 2.0.

00:38:42.000 But they left us a little Easter egg that you went looking through to find this story.

00:38:47.000 So tell us about that and why Ohio.

00:38:49.000 Yeah.

00:38:50.000 You know, one of the criticisms people had of, Doge, especially on the left, is why are you guys even bothering?

00:38:55.000 There's not that much spare change you can rustle up in the couch of the federal budget because most of it is locked away in defense or non discretionary funding.

00:39:03.000 And if you look at that pie chart, a big chunk of what we spend is Medicaid.

00:39:07.000 So there's like, they're telling us there's no waste there.

00:39:10.000 I mean, you've got to eliminate programs or things.

00:39:12.000 Medicaid is just paying people to go to the doctor.

00:39:14.000 Well, that's because we never got to see what Medicaid was.

00:39:18.000 And so Doge released data that shows who's getting paid by Medicaid, which I think is a huge deal for transparency.

00:39:24.000 It's the kind of thing Barack Obama should have done when he was always going on and on about being transparent.

00:39:29.000 Using technology.

00:39:30.000 I mean, this doesn't reveal and invade the privacy of anybody's, any patient's medical information.

00:39:36.000 It's about the corporations that get rich. 1.00

00:39:38.000 And that's what we're seeing here the new welfare queens aren't the participants in poverty programs. 1.00

00:39:44.000 They're the people that get paid to ostensibly serve the poor people. 1.00

00:39:48.000 And those people go on to become millionaires.

00:39:53.000 Now, in Ohio, they have a waiver, much like Minnesota, the root of all the fraud, most of the fraud, everything but the daycares.

00:40:01.000 Is these Medicaid waivers that they have in Minnesota?

00:40:04.000 Ohio has the same problem.

00:40:06.000 They'll pay you for what's called personal services.

00:40:09.000 And that's not medical.

00:40:11.000 That's why it has that weird name.

00:40:12.000 It just means it's Medicaid, but it has nothing to do with the intended purpose of the program.

00:40:16.000 You can just cook and clean and even provide, as you said, companionship and conversation for somebody that's like 65 years old or whatever. 0.94

00:40:25.000 So that's why I call it Butlers for Somalis, because it's just like somebody to literally just do your chores for you.

00:40:31.000 I mean, wouldn't it be nice if we could all have that? 0.99

00:40:34.000 And so the real wrinkle is a lot of these Somalis started getting paid by the government to be personal servants to their own relatives. 0.99

00:40:42.000 In other words, just to hang out with their family the way that everybody has done throughout all of millennia. 0.99

00:40:47.000 Maybe if your parents are getting up there and they're 65 and they could use somebody to vacuum the carpet, you do that because your parents raised you and it's a human decency thing to do to return the favor. 0.98

00:40:58.000 But the Somalis found a way to actually get paid by the government for just doing normal stuff and hanging out with your family. 0.92

00:41:03.000 So you say found, but In your investigation, I know with a lot of really bad government programs, there's notoriously social workers, nonprofits who basically explain to people how to do this.

00:41:16.000 Have you found any evidence of that?

00:41:18.000 Like, are there, we'll just say it, Democrat operatives, either in literal form or spiritual form, do they go around and explain to these people?

00:41:26.000 Or is this an organic development where the community has figured out, oh, there's money to be had and no one's going to stop us?

00:41:32.000 And if they do catch it, all they might do is slap you on the wrist and you can go back to Somalia for a bit.

00:41:38.000 Well, in part two of my series, which I think went up, you have a Democrat politician who actually founded a home healthcare company that got $11 million.

00:41:49.000 And then he sold it and ran for office with the Democrat endorsement for state Senate.

00:41:55.000 He was also involved in one of these NGOs, as you mentioned, that got like $7 million from the federal government.

00:42:02.000 And so there are NGOs kind of pushing people to do these things.

00:42:06.000 I talked to one guy who was getting paid by the government.

00:42:10.000 To help refugees sign up for other government programs.

00:42:14.000 So it's not enough to give the Somalis free disability and free food. 0.78

00:42:19.000 You also have to pay a different Somali to encourage the first Somali to fill out that form to get the free money. 0.77

00:42:26.000 And so there's definitely a sense you go through these buildings, and in part two that you'll see on the Daily Wire, I go to these, there's this one landlord in New Jersey, and it's based in New Jersey, and they own seven buildings in Columbus. 0.82

00:42:41.000 Now, these seven buildings have 288.

00:42:44.000 Home healthcare firms in them.

00:42:45.000 And those firms have billed a quarter billion dollars over the last several years.

00:42:50.000 That's just one landlord.

00:42:51.000 And then the landlord goes and is buying private planes and things like that.

00:42:56.000 So there's good money in this at every level.

00:42:59.000 Though there's a whole economy now based on this.

00:43:03.000 And some of them are basically the ones hanging out with their family and getting paid.

00:43:09.000 But then there's also a corporation that sits in the middle because the average person can't bill Medicaid directly.

00:43:15.000 You need what's called an NPI.

00:43:17.000 So there are all these companies, they're really nothing more than an LLC, but they are able to bill Medicaid and then they will pay.

00:43:25.000 Pay the family member to hang out with their relatives.

00:43:30.000 And you take a little cut, and it really adds up to like a billion dollars a year in Ohio.

00:43:37.000 Jeez, Louise.

00:43:38.000 And so, has Governor DeWine commented on this waiver that you're talking about that Minnesota also has?

00:43:45.000 I mean, this is a Republican run state.

00:43:47.000 You would think that they would plug these holes and these gaps in oversight and enforcement.

00:43:53.000 Yeah, he actually raised the amount that these people were getting paid recently, and he made some positive.

00:43:59.000 Comments, you know, talking about how important it is to give everybody what they need or whatever.

00:44:05.000 So, you know, the attorney general of the state testified recently about how crazy the rules are.

00:44:10.000 Basically, there's a law that makes it less severe to steal from Medicaid than to steal from anybody else.

00:44:17.000 The attorney general can't do any investigative subpoenas to gather information to prove fraud.

00:44:23.000 And they used to have a rule that you're supposed to have a GPS on your car if you're one of those people who isn't hanging out with your own family members, but you're one of those.

00:44:31.000 People that have a roster of clients that you go and visit, you should have a GPS to make sure you're really visiting them.

00:44:38.000 You're not just putting down the names of your friends and getting a kickback.

00:44:41.000 Well, apparently they got rid of the GPS rule, which I don't know why you would do that because a GPS costs like 50 bucks and you could save like $10 million.

00:44:50.000 So it's also just pretty difficult to prove in a court of law that you didn't go to your cousin Abed's house some Tuesday a year ago, you know, unless you have like footage on everybody's house.

00:45:01.000 So, You know, it's pretty difficult to track these people.

00:45:05.000 I found some crazy stories by putting a lot of investigative resources into it, but I'm skeptical that the government is really able to monitor these people at all.

00:45:13.000 And certainly from what you see on the ground, there's not a lot of oversight going on.

00:45:18.000 Yeah, I mean, this is all really depressing.

00:45:21.000 And I saw that JD Vance quote tweeted your report.

00:45:26.000 That's promising, as obviously he's chairing the anti fraud task force.

00:45:31.000 So hopefully they're going to take it very seriously.

00:45:32.000 But it's just despicable that this is happening in a conservative and a Republican run state where they're making it.

00:45:37.000 Easier to commit frauds.

00:45:38.000 Now, Luke, you went to this one building here, which I just thought was so telling.

00:45:45.000 And it was all blacked out windows.

00:45:47.000 There was nobody inside.

00:45:48.000 You did on the ground reporting for this.

00:45:50.000 Show this image if you guys can.

00:45:52.000 This building where all the windows seem like there's no, you can't see in.

00:45:59.000 They've blocked them all off.

00:46:00.000 What did you see here?

00:46:02.000 And what is the significance of this building?

00:46:05.000 Yeah.

00:46:06.000 And if people go to Daily Wire later, Today, they will see a bunch of different images like that, along with the lists of all the people that are tenants inside.

00:46:16.000 And they all have Muslim names, probably 99%.

00:46:19.000 And when you go in the buildings, they're also probably 90 to 99% vacant.

00:46:25.000 They have these little offices that say something home healthcare, something else home healthcare LLC, all these little names.

00:46:32.000 But the papers are the logos and the signs are just like printed out off of somebody.

00:46:36.000 A lot of them are just the same thing.

00:46:38.000 Some of the doors, like one of the doors, didn't even have a doorknob.

00:46:42.000 So it's like obvious that nobody's going into it.

00:46:44.000 You could see mail that had post was postmarked like months prior.

00:46:48.000 Like nobody's going to these buildings.

00:46:50.000 There's smoke alarms chirping for batteries.

00:46:52.000 There's stray cats in the parking lot.

00:46:56.000 And it's really creepy.

00:46:58.000 I mean, the hallways are very, there was like a whole street full of buildings like the one on your screen.

00:47:03.000 And you walk down the hallway and down the hallway and down the hallway.

00:47:06.000 And it's just LLC after LLC after LLC, nobody in any of them.

00:47:13.000 And it was only until recently that you could now look up in federal records and be like, now we know why that little office exists because nobody's doing any work in there, but it's billing $5 million from the government.

00:47:24.000 This one got $32 million from the government.

00:47:27.000 This one got $9 million from the government.

00:47:29.000 And you can peer in the window and there's not even like a desk or a computer in the office.

00:47:32.000 It's just an empty room. 0.70

00:47:34.000 So it was just a really creepy and I think black pilling experience, honestly.

00:47:39.000 Is anybody doing any like oversight in the state of Ohio on this?

00:47:44.000 Are there people that go out and check the LLCs to see what they're doing?

00:47:48.000 What's the enforcement mechanism here?

00:47:50.000 I think they basically take their word for it.

00:47:52.000 You submit an invoice that said you went to such and such person's house and you.

00:47:57.000 You performed services like housekeeping or conversation for so many hours, and the government pays.

00:48:03.000 I mean, there's really no way you can check.

00:48:06.000 Occasionally, they'll do these audits that find that the companies claim to have visited people at home when they were actually in the hospital.

00:48:14.000 And Medicaid knows that because the hospitals were charging Medicaid for their inpatient care.

00:48:18.000 And that's really the only way they get caught is when two different entities at once try to bill Medicaid for the same person.

00:48:25.000 And so, what Medicaid does then.

00:48:27.000 Is they make the home healthcare companies just refund the money for that specific day when they got caught lying.

00:48:32.000 But they just keep taking their word for it that all the other thousands of times that they say they went to somebody's house, that was definitely only the one time they lied is when they were in the hospital.

00:48:43.000 The other times, it's probably fine.

00:48:45.000 And so there's all kinds of clues that these people lie routinely, and some of them lied to me.

00:48:51.000 So I want to underscore a point that we made in the previous segment, Luke.

00:48:55.000 This was all made possible because Doge made public.

00:48:58.000 What had previously been hidden from public view, and that is some of the details on Medicaid and how it was paid out, correct?

00:49:05.000 So that was a Doge contribution, which is huge.

00:49:10.000 I want to know two things.

00:49:12.000 How many of these people involved in this scheme are Somalis or foreigners?

00:49:17.000 What percentage would you say?

00:49:19.000 And then I'm instantly thinking of states like Washington, Maine, New York, where these are booming businesses.

00:49:26.000 How much of the fraud do you think in those states?

00:49:29.000 How much of this industry, this booming industry, is fraud in those states?

00:49:33.000 Yeah.

00:49:33.000 So, I mean, I've seen it reported that the most common job in New York City is a home health care aide.

00:49:42.000 And so, once you understand that's being a free butler for a Somali or hanging out with your own family member, I mean, that's a fake job. 0.95

00:49:49.000 It's basically UBI, but we don't say it's UBI. 0.96

00:49:52.000 If you know how to work the system, you get paid to hang out with your own family in your own house.

00:49:57.000 So, it's like $15 billion or something in New York.

00:50:01.000 It's insane.

00:50:03.000 But yeah, it's really bad.

00:50:04.000 I think that.

00:50:06.000 We're going to have to look at rather than doing fraud enforcement, which turns into whack a mole.

00:50:12.000 You know, you bust Abdukar Muhammad, and then pretty soon his brother, you know, Abdir Muhammad, pops up with a bunch of assets and a new company name.

00:50:26.000 It's just so easy for these people just to start new LLCs anytime they need and to put, to move assets around in between their family members.

00:50:36.000 They can also.

00:50:36.000 Flee the country if they need to, like we saw in Feeding Our Future.

00:50:40.000 They can wire money abroad where we can't get it.

00:50:42.000 It's very difficult to track these people because they all have the same names.

00:50:46.000 And to get to your point, I mean, what percentage are foreign? 0.94

00:50:49.000 Essentially, all of them.

00:50:50.000 I mean, 99%.

00:50:51.000 Like, I was so struck by that.

00:50:54.000 And I think if you could take a field trip of liberals to these places, they would be very radicalized.

00:50:59.000 Because anybody who doesn't see the pattern here, the connection between immigration and then the exploitation at scale of these generous safety net programs that hadn't really been abused in previous years is completely blind.

00:51:13.000 It's important to make that connection because it couldn't be more blatant. 1.00

00:51:16.000 It's virtually 100% foreign. 0.99

00:51:19.000 And Yeah, I think it's very difficult for the government to track.

00:51:22.000 I mean, how do you know the difference between Muhammad Ahmed and Ahmed Muhammad?

00:51:27.000 There's a guy that owns a business whose name is just Omar Omar.

00:51:31.000 A lot of times their birthdays are just listed as January 1st because we don't know when they were born.

00:51:35.000 They spell their names different ways, multiple ways within a single document.

00:51:40.000 Why are we giving somebody that puts January 1st on all their, like, you know, I mean, why are we not looking into it?

00:51:47.000 We're just going to write million dollar checks to these people.

00:51:51.000 And not perform any oversight or check to verify anything.

00:51:56.000 I mean, it's really infuriating.

00:51:57.000 And what makes it even more infuriating is it's May 5th.

00:52:00.000 It's Cinco de Mayo today.

00:52:01.000 So all the libs are all over the place talking about abolish ICE, abolish ICE.

00:52:05.000 Meanwhile, we've got billions of dollars just flying out the window, going to God knows where, probably back to Somalia to fund Al Shabaab or whatever.

00:52:15.000 This is a massive, massive domestic problem.

00:52:18.000 Go ahead, Blake.

00:52:19.000 Well, I want to end on a white pill.

00:52:20.000 So you have a minute here, Luke.

00:52:22.000 Stuff that this is a red state.

00:52:24.000 What should we be changing?

00:52:25.000 What could a state, in your opinion, pretty easily do to reduce the impact of this, even if we can't eliminate it without deporting 20 million people?

00:52:34.000 I think that the Trump administration needs to rescind Medicaid waivers and restore Medicaid to what it was intended to be, like basic doctor service.

00:52:42.000 It's not really fair to have certain states be able to provide more services than others because the feds are paying for it 70%.

00:52:49.000 And I think that's part of why the states don't care that much if it's wasted, it's 70% other people's money.

00:52:54.000 So it's great that.

00:52:57.000 JD Vance is going to have this task force take a look.

00:52:59.000 I've got a lot of really sketchy red flags for them coming out in the Daily Wire this week.

00:53:04.000 But the shortest path to keeping our country from insolvency is to just stop allowing people to charge the government for hanging out with your own family.

00:53:16.000 And if you do have a mom who's getting old and could use some help once a week, do it on your own because it's the right thing to do. 1.00

00:53:22.000 And that's what I think differentiates Somalis here they don't want to do normal family tasks unless they get paid. 1.00

00:53:29.000 Luke Rosiak, great work. 1.00

00:53:31.000 Keep going, man.

00:53:32.000 Keep, keep going.

00:53:33.000 Thanks, guys.

00:53:37.000 I wasn't expecting this, but Death of Recess genuinely stopped me in my tracks.

00:53:42.000 This isn't about dodgeballs and jungle gyms, it's about control.

00:53:45.000 The modern American classroom didn't just happen, it was intentionally designed, standardized, and centralized.

00:53:52.000 And once you see who built it and who protects it, everything will click for you, too.

00:53:57.000 Billions of dollars flow through education bureaucracies.

00:54:00.000 Every year, test scores collapse, and somehow the answer is always more money and less parental authority.

00:54:06.000 The documentary breaks down how organizations like the NEA amassed enormous influence, how radical gender ideology entered classrooms, and why something as basic as recess, movement, freedom, childhood, all the good things, how they had to go.

00:54:21.000 That's not random, it's systemic.

00:54:24.000 Institutions protect themselves, they do not protect your kids.

00:54:27.000 That's why this documentary exists on Angel Studios streaming platform.

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00:54:38.000 So go to angel.comslash Charlie and watch Death of Recess right now.

00:54:43.000 If you're a parent or if you plan to be one, you need to see this film.

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00:54:53.000 Without further ado, I want to bring in our next two guests who have written an amazing new book.

00:54:57.000 These are New York Times bestselling authors, Candace Lee and Eric Newman.

00:55:01.000 They're the authors of a new book called George Goodwin, Dragonslayer.

00:55:06.000 I believe Bear Grylls is involved in the project.

00:55:09.000 Candace and Eric, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.

00:55:12.000 Hey, good to be here.

00:55:13.000 Thanks so much for having us.

00:55:15.000 Nice backdrop.

00:55:16.000 I love that.

00:55:17.000 You got the branding's on point.

00:55:19.000 All right, so.

00:55:20.000 I'm convinced that we got to get younger and younger people inspired.

00:55:24.000 They need to be activated.

00:55:26.000 They need to feel their own agency, the power of their own imagination.

00:55:28.000 That's why I love what you guys are doing here.

00:55:31.000 Tell us about it.

00:55:32.000 It's a scouting legend.

00:55:33.000 So I have questions about what you mean by that.

00:55:35.000 But tell us about the book and why you wrote it.

00:55:37.000 Yeah.

00:55:38.000 Well, there's a famous quote often attributed to G.K. Chesterton that really inspired us.

00:55:44.000 And it's fairy tales exist not to tell us, not to tell children that dragons are real, but that they can be killed.

00:55:53.000 And that really is the heart of the story.

00:55:56.000 We were inspired, yes, to tell a great story, a fun story, an exciting story that hooks readers.

00:56:03.000 But we also, you know, we all know that there are dragons everywhere, and we want to inspire young men and women to rise up and slay them.

00:56:10.000 Absolutely.

00:56:11.000 Yeah.

00:56:12.000 And just storyline wise, it's about what you think it's about.

00:56:15.000 It is a young guy who is faced with an impossible situation.

00:56:20.000 He goes on a weekend camping trip and ends up having to save his whole town.

00:56:24.000 But it really is at its core one of those.

00:56:26.000 David and Goliath stories, the kind of story that, you know, we wanted the cover of the book.

00:56:31.000 I'll just hold it up here.

00:56:32.000 We wanted even the youngest reader to be able to look at that and know, okay, this is a story where somebody is going to defy the odds and do something that seems impossible.

00:56:43.000 And so that's really our heart is to inspire the next generation to see that you do have a hero inside you.

00:56:49.000 And sometimes it might take something really scary, a dragon, to draw it out.

00:56:54.000 Yeah.

00:56:54.000 So you say it.

00:56:55.000 So, you know, there's a warning from Bear Grylls here.

00:56:58.000 I love it, by the way.

00:56:59.000 He goes, Warning.

00:57:00.000 This adventure is full of danger.

00:57:02.000 It's got dragons and death, coal mines and cold blooded killers, treasure and true love.

00:57:06.000 The stuff legends are made of, but even more dangerous are the kids in this tale.

00:57:09.000 They're tough, they're brave, and they're exactly the kind of heroes our world needs.

00:57:12.000 And I kind of love the premise.

00:57:14.000 It's like, so it's set in West Virginia, and you know that coal mines are strictly forbidden to go in, but 12 year old George Goodwin knows something more.

00:57:23.000 Deep underground lies a treasure that could save his town and clear his father's name.

00:57:28.000 And so then he's with the scouting troop.

00:57:29.000 So explain the tie in with the scouting troop.

00:57:32.000 Angle here.

00:57:33.000 Yeah.

00:57:35.000 Well, we love stories where kids are in the driver's seat.

00:57:39.000 You know, like we think back to like Goonies and even Jurassic Park, where there's kids who have to make choices in impossible situations.

00:57:47.000 And Eric and I were sitting around years ago working actually on another project.

00:57:52.000 And we were looking at a character who was a side character who was a scout.

00:57:57.000 And the more we started talking about it, we're like, man, scouts are awesome.

00:57:59.000 They are young people who actually know how to do things.

00:58:02.000 You could throw them in any situation.

00:58:04.000 And a scout could probably outperform me when it comes to survival, but they're just so broad in what they can do.

00:58:10.000 Yeah, and it's the rare place in society now.

00:58:13.000 I mean, we talk about, you know, get out and touch grass.

00:58:16.000 It's the rare place where kids have a little bit of autonomy and they can adventure on their own, learn skills on their own.

00:58:23.000 And we thought, man, this would be a fun place to start a story.

00:58:29.000 So we imagined this 12 year old boy, you know, and we had kind of this lightning bolt brainstorm session.

00:58:34.000 A 12 year old boy.

00:58:36.000 This should take place in West Virginia.

00:58:37.000 We just could imagine a dragon in a coal mine.

00:58:40.000 And then we thought, who would be the fellow, who would be the rest of the crew that helps take this dragon down?

00:58:48.000 We thought, oh, it's a scouting patrol and his best friends.

00:58:51.000 So it just kind of like naturally emerged.

00:58:54.000 And it's the kind of story that we happen to love.

00:58:57.000 Yeah.

00:58:57.000 And I appreciate that for sure.

00:58:59.000 I'm an Eagle Scout myself.

00:59:01.000 Charlie was an Eagle Scout as well.

00:59:02.000 Were you in the scouts?

00:59:03.000 Nope.

00:59:03.000 Never.

00:59:04.000 Oh, that's true.

00:59:04.000 No, I came from a ranching family that like my experience was literally just like on a horse in the desert.

00:59:10.000 Sounds like a great way to be a scout.

00:59:11.000 But no, but it's appreciated because I am. 0.99

00:59:14.000 I'm sure we follow the travails of the main scouting organization, Boy Scouts, which became the gender non determinist scouts. 0.91

00:59:23.000 But they're making some progress. 1.00

00:59:24.000 They're coming back.

00:59:25.000 They're coming back.

00:59:26.000 It's certainly been a saga.

00:59:27.000 It's been difficult.

00:59:28.000 It's been frustrating.

00:59:30.000 And I suppose I appreciate you guys for evoking the classic image of a scout.

00:59:36.000 I don't know if you describe any specific scouting group they're in, but that really is a set of values that was hugely useful in America, hugely positive for boys.

00:59:46.000 And I. approve of evoking that even if we know that today the left went after it precisely because it was such a good thing.

00:59:53.000 Yeah, but it is coming back.

00:59:54.000 I mean, they partnered with Secretary of War Hegseth and they're making headway.

00:59:59.000 I don't know if you have insights into that, if that's part of what's going on in the background here or not, but I agree with Blake that the values of scouting are so critically important to the next generation.

01:00:09.000 That's why the left went after it, if we're being honest.

01:00:13.000 Yeah, there's something about the, there's not very many opportunities for young people to kind of Put on a specific identity that carries the values of scouting.

01:00:24.000 And, you know, my son just became a scout.

01:00:26.000 He's six years old.

01:00:28.000 And he went on his first camp out as a lion cub.

01:00:32.000 And it was interesting when he saw a picture of himself, you know, I'm doing mom milestone.

01:00:38.000 He saw a picture of himself in a uniform.

01:00:40.000 And he looked at himself and he goes, Oh my goodness, mom, I look fearless.

01:00:45.000 And then he came home from his first camp out and I said, Hey, I'm a little cold.

01:00:49.000 He brought me the blanket and said, I'm courteous, mom, because I'm a scout.

01:00:54.000 And there is something about stepping into an identity that carries virtue, that carries these responsibilities with them, that that's something that we did want to kind of evoke with this story that there's a young man who's not only, you know, he's a scout, but he's stepping into this identity as a dragon slayer.

01:01:11.000 And that's really broader than any one organization.

01:01:14.000 That's something that all of us can aspire to.

01:01:16.000 You know, when you look at the scout, sorry.

01:01:19.000 Well, someone on our staff was asking, you know, George Dragon Slayer, is there, Symbolic meaning to the name.

01:01:24.000 Obviously, there's St. George as the great dragon.

01:01:26.000 George Washington.

01:01:27.000 Yeah.

01:01:31.000 That was part of our lightning bolt inspiration 15 years ago when we first started this.

01:01:35.000 We're like, what's his name?

01:01:37.000 And I remember Candace goes, it's George.

01:01:39.000 It's George because this will be a modern day reimagining of the legend of St. George.

01:01:44.000 And that just clicked with us.

01:01:46.000 And so there's some St. George threads woven throughout the whole story.

01:01:51.000 Yeah.

01:01:51.000 And you know, the cool thing is, like, The legend of St. George, it's a story that exists in lots of different cultures, but over time it's kind of been lost.

01:02:00.000 And I think that speaks to how there are so many great stories, the kind of stories that move and inspire us that have kind of gotten lost to this generation.

01:02:10.000 And so we love the idea of being able to reimagine that because we just believe that the stories kind of work in this space of imagination that's ultimately the bridge between the heart and the mind.

01:02:24.000 And we want to take ideas that are out there and kind of help ground them in stories so that they can move from just being ideas to becoming beliefs and convictions.

01:02:35.000 And so that's just one of the things we love about storytelling.

01:02:40.000 So, you would say that this book is probably best geared for what ages?

01:02:45.000 It's technically middle grade.

01:02:47.000 So, you're looking at like the Percy Jackson, right?

01:02:51.000 The Percy Jackson audience.

01:02:52.000 So, they say like fourth to like seventh or eighth grade in that range.

01:02:57.000 And that happens to be one of our favorite genres.

01:03:00.000 You know, we were both raised on Goonies.

01:03:03.000 Yeah.

01:03:03.000 And we love like adventurous stories where the stakes are really high.

01:03:08.000 It's life or death.

01:03:10.000 And, but yeah, at the heart of the story is a group of kids.

01:03:14.000 Yeah, and we really did our best.

01:03:16.000 You know, we have this core group of characters that are so fun.

01:03:20.000 They range from 12 to 17.

01:03:24.000 But really, even the moms are awesome in the book.

01:03:26.000 We kind of wanted to make it something that if a family sits around and reads it aloud, there is something that everybody can, you know, everyone can enjoy and also everyone can kind of aspire to in some ways.

01:03:37.000 So, yeah, it's a fun story.

01:03:40.000 All right, so this is available like.

01:03:42.000 Everywhere books are sold from Target and Walmart, Amazon, Barnes and Noble, Books a Million, all the places, all the things.

01:03:48.000 You guys are New York Times bestselling authors.

01:03:51.000 Real quick, your pitch to parents why do they need a book like this for their kids?

01:03:55.000 Oh, man.

01:03:56.000 You know, this started with a vision that we want to inspire young men and women to be prepared mentally, physically, spiritually to slay life's dragons.

01:04:04.000 You know, we know the world is full of dragons right now, and our heart is that this story will inspire young people to discover their God given identity.

01:04:14.000 To be a David versus a Goliath or a dragon slayer to take on whatever dragons there are in their lives.

01:04:20.000 Yeah, there's a line from one of the characters, and she says, You know, there's breath in my lungs.

01:04:25.000 I'm here for something.

01:04:26.000 I'm going to find out what.

01:04:27.000 And we just want to connect young people to their purpose, to their destiny.

01:04:31.000 And so that's why, you know, you've heard the phrase pay it forward.

01:04:34.000 We're asking people to just slay it forward.

01:04:37.000 Think of somebody who needs a story like that because we believe that this can unlock identity and truth.

01:04:42.000 And we are excited for families to discover that together.

01:04:46.000 Let's talk about woke literature for this kind of age group.

01:04:49.000 What are kids up against?

01:04:50.000 Like, what are they reading in schools?

01:04:53.000 Because it's so important that they have alternatives that are actually good, exciting, daring, adventurous.

01:04:57.000 I love that you have Bear Grylls involved in this, who's Mr. Adventure.

01:05:01.000 But what are they up against in schools?

01:05:03.000 I mean, everything, you name it.

01:05:05.000 You know, when we first started, again, as we said, we just love these kinds of stories.

01:05:10.000 You know, we're Goonies at heart.

01:05:12.000 But for us, as important as the story itself is why we're telling it.

01:05:17.000 And we had come across it, this is.

01:05:20.000 14 15 years old by now, we've come across this TED talk called The Demise of Guys.

01:05:27.000 Um, it's fascinating, TED talk.

01:05:30.000 You can look it up.

01:05:31.000 I think there's a book, and it's two psychologists.

01:05:34.000 This is not from a faith perspective, this is just clinical psychologists.

01:05:39.000 And they were talking about the incredible, uh, incredibly rough trajectory of young boys becoming men and how immersive worlds of video gaming and online pornography and social media.

01:05:53.000 How it's just wrecking havoc on a generation.

01:05:58.000 And one of the big questions to ask is, you know, it touches on is the universal question that every young man, really all of us ask, is do I have what it takes?

01:06:09.000 And when we read this like just utterly sobering statistic, we were like, this is why we have to tell this story.

01:06:15.000 We have to tell this story.

01:06:17.000 You know, I tell, it took us 15 years to get here.

01:06:20.000 And one of the stories I tell often is that, you know, why, what kept you going?

01:06:25.000 I took my son on a campout, a father son campout, when he was three.

01:06:30.000 And he was by far the youngest kid, but I thought, oh, he'll be fine.

01:06:34.000 And he wore diapers at night.

01:06:37.000 He came out of the tent, and all these other boys saw him and started laughing at him and pointing and said, You're a baby.

01:06:42.000 You're a baby.

01:06:43.000 You're just a baby.

01:06:44.000 I was like devastated.

01:06:46.000 I run over there to intervene, and my son is laughing.

01:06:51.000 And he says, I'm not a baby.

01:06:55.000 I'm a dragon slayer.

01:06:57.000 And I just stood there and I was like, Oh my gosh, all these stories I've been telling him, all the insults didn't stick.

01:07:04.000 All the mockery, all that kind of stuff, none of it stuck because he knew who he was.

01:07:11.000 And that's our heart.

01:07:12.000 You know, it's like everything is thrown at kids nowadays from social media and school and who they are and who they aren't.

01:07:19.000 But if they know who God calls them, like none of that other stuff sticks.

01:07:25.000 That is so true.

01:07:26.000 I mean, life is a series of things that get in your way, that knock you down, that beat you up, call you names, accuse you of things.

01:07:35.000 And it's how you respond that is ultimately going to define the person.

01:07:38.000 And what is it?

01:07:38.000 It's like life is 10% what happens to you and 90% how you choose to react to it.

01:07:43.000 And that resiliency and the courage building that up in kids.

01:07:47.000 I had a similar story with my son this weekend, actually.

01:07:51.000 And he looked at me, he was scared to go on this ride.

01:07:54.000 And he said, Dad, I'm going to choose to be brave.

01:07:58.000 And he went and did it.

01:07:59.000 And I was like, Yes.

01:08:01.000 You know, like it's getting in there somewhere where I'm like, You got to be brave, son.

01:08:05.000 And he looked at me and he said, I'm going to choose to be brave.

01:08:07.000 I'm scared, but I'm going to choose to be brave.

01:08:08.000 I'm so proud of him.

01:08:10.000 And those are the lessons that we need to be getting through.

01:08:13.000 Not that you're a victim, not that there's nothing you can do about anything, not that, you know, ultimately your fate is sealed and all is awful.

01:08:21.000 That's not the American spirit either. 0.52

01:08:23.000 And I think that's, again, go back to Scouts.

01:08:25.000 Scouts was about giving you agency and power over your dominion.

01:08:29.000 And yeah, I think bad things happen, but ultimately we want young people to be the type of people that can overcome the obstacles that are thrown in their life.

01:08:36.000 All right, Blake, final question to you.

01:08:38.000 You're the Scout.

01:08:39.000 You're the Eagle Scout here.

01:08:40.000 Well, I guess a natural follow up.

01:08:44.000 Is there going to be a sequel?

01:08:45.000 Is he going to defeat other monsters?

01:08:48.000 Yes, we are happy to say this is actually the first in a three book series.

01:08:52.000 So it's the Order of the Dragon Slayer series.

01:08:54.000 That's why you don't want to fall behind.

01:08:55.000 You got to read the first one.

01:08:57.000 But we are actually furiously writing the second one, dreaming up the third one.

01:09:02.000 And we're so thrilled to be able to take families on not just one great adventure, but a whole epic.

01:09:08.000 So it's not going to take 15 years, though, right?

01:09:10.000 We're going to get the next one.

01:09:11.000 No, we might be referring to someone there.

01:09:15.000 Yeah, well, they said it took him 15 years.

01:09:19.000 Yeah, we're, it'll be out, the next one will be out next summer sometime.

01:09:23.000 Great, great.

01:09:24.000 Well, congratulations on your book.

01:09:25.000 I think this stuff is so important.

01:09:27.000 I wanted to devote as much time as we could in the show because we need stuff that feels like the 90s again.

01:09:32.000 That's what I think.

01:09:35.000 It's basically like go back to the way things used to be when we all had our sanity and before social media.

01:09:41.000 Candace Lee, Eric Newman, congratulations.

01:09:44.000 Check out the book, get it wherever books are sold, get it for somebody in your family or a friend.

01:09:48.000 God bless you both.

01:09:49.000 Thank you so much.

01:09:50.000 Thank you so much for having us.

01:09:51.000 All right.

01:09:52.000 God bless you guys.

01:09:52.000 All right.

01:09:53.000 Final minute here.

01:09:55.000 It's Cinco de Mayo.

01:09:56.000 And I want.

01:09:57.000 We're going to go have tacos today.

01:09:58.000 We're going to go have tacos.

01:10:00.000 I'm not because I'm still getting over this stomach bug thing.

01:10:02.000 I look, you know, maybe skinnier.

01:10:04.000 Maybe that's the thing.

01:10:05.000 I haven't eaten in like two days.

01:10:06.000 Well, you know, if you need to.

01:10:07.000 You know what they say?

01:10:08.000 If you need to purge a lot of stuff from your system, just get sick.

01:10:12.000 Or get some tacos.

01:10:13.000 Well, listen.

01:10:14.000 Get some really spicy tacos.

01:10:16.000 Yes.

01:10:16.000 Like a really authentic Mexican place.

01:10:18.000 That'll purge me. 1.00

01:10:19.000 Yeah.

01:10:20.000 So here's what I want you to do today in this final.

01:10:23.000 30 seconds that we have together.

01:10:25.000 The Democrats are going all in, hitting ice.

01:10:27.000 I want you to go public today, somewhere, whatever your preferred social platform is, and defend ICE.

01:10:35.000 That is your homework today.

01:10:36.000 Defend the brave men and women that keep this country safe and secure, and go tell Leader Thune that you want the Save America Act passed.

01:10:43.000 So we want New Mexico to be a Republican state.

01:10:45.000 We want Nevada to be firmly in our column.

01:10:47.000 So go say something nice about ICE.

01:10:49.000 They keep us safe, and they're heroes.

01:10:51.000 And I refuse to let them be defamed and maligned by these open border cabals that just want to loot our country. 0.54

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