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00:01:19.000All right, we will go to the first question.
00:01:22.000I always say this if you disagree, you're allowed to cut in line.
00:01:25.000And if someone says something outrageous, don't laugh at them, don't mock them, don't ridicule them.
00:01:31.000This is obviously a conservative audience, so if a liberal is speaking, give them the respect that they never give to us to allow their ideas to be spread.
00:03:04.000You're going to pay a price if you disagree with the status quo.
00:03:08.000The best thing you can do is you have to make a decision and you have to make a choice of whether or not this sort of endeavor, which will come with opposition, it will come with backlash, it will come with mockery and ridicule against you, is worth it.
00:03:26.000Here's the two things I can promise every single Turning Point USA student.
00:03:30.000Well, first, you're going to all pay a price.
00:04:27.000If you want to call me these names, fine, I'll figure it out.
00:04:29.000You act that way, you take almost all their power away.
00:04:33.000We have given them this kind of societal and cultural power by allowing them to all of a sudden tell us what is socially acceptable, to allow us to accept what sort of ideas are.
00:04:42.000And I'm not saying it's easy, because there's somebody in this audience right now that I know is getting a pit in their stomach.
00:04:48.000Like, man, Charlie, it's easy for you to say, I'm a nurse at a hospital, I'm about to be fired because I'm getting forced to get a vaccine.
00:04:55.000If I dare say anything, I will tyrannically and autocratically be fired almost instantaneously.
00:05:00.000Easy for you to get up on stage and say that.
00:07:23.000I basically had a two part question for you.
00:07:26.000After listening to your speech, I wondered did you think that slavery and ensuing Jim Crow laws had a lasting impact on the black community in the United States?
00:07:37.000So if you Correlate all the impact of Jim Crow and slavery, I would say that you could generously say 26% single motherhood in the black community in the 1960s.
00:07:48.000So about 26% of all black babies born in the 1950s and 1960s were born to a single mother.
00:08:58.000The question is did it have an impact that is measurable and significant enough now in 2021, where we saw a key metric that influenced the livelihood of the black community, like single motherhood rate, that is, America got less racist.
00:09:13.000All of a sudden, now 77% of black babies are born without a father, where before it was 26%.
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00:10:55.000So, what would happen if you had like 150 years in a country for your family to build wealth, to own a house, to have a job, to get college education for your kids, to build generational wealth?
00:11:11.000And then you took another family who didn't have the opportunity to do any of that for 150 years and then set them off on the same even starting point.
00:11:24.000Is that really an even starting point?
00:11:26.000And would that not result in some kind of systemic disadvantage for those people?
00:11:31.000So, the black middle class was the fastest growing demographic in the 1940s and 1950s until the Great Society Act and that intervention.
00:11:39.000It's very tempting to do what you're doing.
00:11:42.000And I'm not faulting you for it because you've probably been propagandized to believe it.
00:11:46.000And that's okay because I think you're actually a victim in this case because you've been misled to want to believe that things you never lived under, never understood.
00:11:55.000And that I think you are partially seeing had a disproportionate impact in the world that you're living in today.
00:12:00.000So, for example, if that were to be true, then first generation immigrants would not be able to quickly make good choices and move up the ladder in this country, which I think we have some first generation immigrants here tonight.
00:12:12.000Now, let me say this that this idea that America is systemically racist to the core would also be quickly debunked by the fact that more blacks have legally immigrated to America.
00:12:27.000Since the 1980s, than ever were here brought as slaves.
00:12:30.000Over two million blacks from the Caribbean and from Nigeria and from Western Africa have come here to America.
00:12:37.000So the question is why is it that in every statistic that you could probably rattle off, are black people doing worse than white people?
00:13:17.000To obviously not to commit crimes, but to try to get married before you have children.
00:13:23.000And so, some of what I believe has contributed to the downfall of some of these communities has nothing to do with white people with the neck on black people.
00:13:31.000Instead, it's the following fathers no longer being in the home, the rise of sexual anarchy that came in post 1960s liberalism that removed this idea of sex being confined to a marital relationship to be gratuitous and everywhere.
00:13:47.000All of a sudden, you've seen an increase in the birth.
00:13:49.000Not just the birth rate, but the single motherhood rate and abortion alongside of it.
00:14:27.000Do you think it could be over policing and police arresting, like, disproportionately enforcing laws in black neighborhoods and arresting more black males than any other demographic?
00:14:46.000So, blacks are actually under arrested and under policed per the percentage of crimes they commit.
00:14:50.000We talked about some of those numbers.
00:14:52.000But let me tell you one thing in particular.
00:14:55.000In the Great Society Act, we decided as a civilization to subsidize single motherhood.
00:15:01.000In the 1960s, we told black women you no longer need to be married to have children, you can get married to the government.
00:15:07.000And we saw a dramatic escalation and increase of the deterioration of the nuclear family and a replacement of that of the nanny state and the welfare state.
00:15:17.000And I would say this that every single activist group that steps up, that talks about systemic racism and oppression, if you look at the data, purely the data, if there is a movement to put black fathers back in the home, And to try and challenge the sexual anarchy that came in the post 1960s and had a more prudent and pious view of sexual relations in America, which is a very unpopular view, by the way, for most Americans, but it's true that before the 1960s,
00:15:43.000sexual relations were, at least culturally, supposed to always be confined to marital relationships.
00:15:49.000The more gratuitous that we have been in trying to catalog it in media and in pop culture and in Hollywood and, yes, in schools, then all of a sudden you have seen people say, well, why do I need to get married for that?
00:16:01.000Marriage is the bedrock institution, and strong families create strong communities which create strong civilizations.
00:16:07.000And this is why immigrant communities that have come to America and first generation immigrants are able to move so quickly up the socioeconomic ladder because they might not have wealth, they might not have big bank accounts, they might not own a lot of land, but they have the thing they know that will keep them together, which is a family that will not be broken up at any means necessary.
00:17:59.000I will go back to what I said earlier, which is that when all of a sudden a society accepts that sexual relations can be normalized outside of marriage, then all of a sudden you need to institute new forms of birth control and pleasure control, which is abortion.
00:18:20.000And that's 3,000 a day, to give you an idea of how many abortions happen in our country every single year.
00:18:26.000And so it also disproportionately hurts black communities.
00:18:30.000And to kind of answer that previous question before, this is a tough topic to talk about, because even some conservatives kind of want to participate in kind of some of the slow cultural landslide.
00:18:42.000And I think we have to be very clear what is the ideal?
00:18:45.000What is the law of nature and nature's God?
00:18:48.000As Thomas Jefferson said, and I'm not here to proselytize a certain religious belief, I obviously have my own.
00:18:53.000But let's talk about what Thomas Jefferson said in the Declaration of Independence.
00:18:55.000What is the law of nature and nature is God?
00:18:57.000Here's a law of nature out of wedlock children is not good for anyone.
00:19:02.000It's not good for the parent, it's not good for the kid, it's not good for society, it's not good for the civilization, it's not good for the future of the country.
00:19:09.000That there is an ideal, that the ideal should be a man and a woman raising that child, pouring into them, that a daughter needs to see the type of woman she wants to become.
00:19:20.000She also wants to see the type of man she one day wants to marry.
00:19:23.000The man needs to see the type of woman that one day he wants to court and marry, and then maybe the man he wants to become.
00:19:28.000You remove one of those elements, it's not to say that it's impossible.
00:19:32.000There are some phenomenal single mothers out there that have been mistreated by weak men, that have been lied to by degenerate men, quite honestly, and I'm happy to get into that endlessly, that step up and raise amazing children.
00:19:48.000But the statistics show it itself, and I wanted to say this to the prior question I forgot, which is that if you look at the data, The data is very clear, which is that a black child raised by a mother and a father is far more likely to take all the different statistics that you would consider to be a success than a white child that is just raised by a single mother.
00:20:11.000That right there is the ultimate social safety net, which is stronger families.
00:20:15.000And this is obvious, but far too often, here's the thing though, is this is where I'll go a step further, and feel free to disagree, maybe we can get in line, which is that I don't think we just have to talk about it as conservatives.
00:20:27.000I think we have to do something about it, which means that we as conservatives know that families are everything.
00:20:35.000But far too often, we as conservatives say that.
00:20:37.000We're like, okay, now go make good choices.
00:20:38.000I say, wow, why don't we try to calibrate laws that actually try to defend families and make it easier to have children in our country?
00:21:21.000We have to start to think to ourselves if you can't have children, then what good is corporate profits and building new weird buildings in downtown Minneapolis?
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00:23:10.000See why so many believers are taking a leap of faith?
00:24:12.000So just so I'm understanding, your argument is that we have slavery in America because people who commit crimes aren't paid a minimum wage when they go to jail.
00:24:28.000Well, first of all, many of the prisoners actually want those jobs because they get a chance to actually build some income and get out of the cell and have a decent life.
00:24:34.000Here's the thing I'm not really big into the prisoner sympathy thing.
00:24:37.000You commit a crime and you go to jail, you're a rapist, you're an arsonist, you're a murderer, you're a money embezzler, and all of a sudden you get a chance to put together packages.
00:24:53.000Slavery would be that you took a random citizen on the side of the street and be like, oh, you did nothing wrong, go put together a bunch of gizmos and gadgets.
00:25:02.000So, maybe your definition of slavery is different than mine, but.
00:25:06.000You talked earlier about the dignity of all humans, and right there it sounds like once you've committed a crime, your dignity is removed.
00:25:16.000So, Ted Kaczynski, Eric Rudolph, and Timothy McVeigh, three people that randomly bombed American society, The Unabomber, the Centennial Park bomber, and the guy that bombed the Oklahoma City bomber, you should never take their dignity away?
00:25:29.000Yeah, humans, as you said earlier, that like once we start defining why you should take dignity away, dignity starts to.
00:26:55.000So, for example, when someone goes and shoots up a school or a church like Dylan Roof, he all of a sudden has violated the social contract and social compact of life, liberty, and property of another.
00:27:08.000Therefore, we absolutely have a moral right and prerogative.
00:27:12.000In fact, we have a moral obligation to say that he should not be able to live in free society alongside of us.
00:27:23.000What I'm trying to say is that we should still treat These humans with dignity, even when they are not allowed to be a part of society.
00:27:31.000I mean, again, you're not going to convince me that Dylan Roof or the Unabomber are in some sort of vast need after they decided to take the life of innocent people.
00:27:45.000They made a decision to take the life of another.
00:27:48.000At that point, the social contract has been violated, and we should, in fact, we have to use state power to take them out of the free and decent society.
00:27:58.000I'm still not agreeing, disagreeing with that.
00:28:00.000What I'm disagreeing with is how we use rhetoric and our thought patterns to view other humans and we start to objectify them.
00:28:14.000Um, just like Nietzsche, uh, Nietzsche, not that I agree with everything, Nietzsche, yeah, I'm sorry, I'm really bad with Nietzsche.
00:28:20.000So, which book are you quoting that you learned in your intro to, uh, it's just the famous quote, yeah, beyond good and evil, you know, which one is it?
00:28:27.000Beware when fighting monsters, for you yourself become a monster.
00:28:30.000When you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gaze back.
00:28:32.000And I hear a lot of rhetoric of tribalism.
00:28:34.000I hear a lot of undignifying of humans and objectifying of humans because of the wrongs that they've committed, which is, yeah, like, I agree, they committed wrongs.
00:28:43.000And, like, how do we get beyond this tribalism, get beyond this undignifying of humans from what they do?
00:30:00.000I just wanna highlight how incredibly dumb that statement was, because let me be very clear.
00:30:07.000The rule of law and the enforcement of it is a sword that needs to be used blindly, prudently, and with wisdom.
00:30:15.000But make no mistake, to say that, well, for example, we don't like people that take the life of another, therefore we should not take the life of somebody else, it violates the American idea of justice, which is that you take the life and liberty of another, you're going to pay a price for that.
00:30:28.000And I encourage you to expand, we're going to get to the next question.
00:30:32.000Expand beyond Nietzsche, just learn how to pronounce it, Nietzsche, you know, German guy that was right about some things and wrong about a lot, and maybe just read a little bit of Aristotle and Aquinas and Augustine, maybe a little Plato, then maybe you'll expand it a little bit.
00:30:55.000Did not expect the whole thing on the Unabomber tonight, but here we are.
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00:32:31.000Place in visual media that the left does.
00:32:34.000I'm a media production major, specifically film, and so it's kind of disheartening to see the way that that profession has been taken over by the left and how kind of a lot of doors seem shut for people who want to use that medium to spread pro American messages.
00:32:49.000So I'm just wondering what has to happen for conservatives to carve out their place in visual media?
00:32:54.000Yeah, so first of all, this is a great question.
00:32:57.000My wife and I were just talking about this actually.
00:33:00.000The way that we view art is all wrong.
00:33:07.000And so we need to do a better job of telling people what art actually is, which is the glorification of beauty, the pursuit and commitment to wonder, and hopefully the personification of the ideal and properly sold man.
00:33:23.000One of the reasons why conservatives tend to not like some of the people that come out of these graphic design schools is because they've been so propagandized to believe that art is what you make out of it, which is one of the most ridiculous things.
00:33:35.000I think it was Marcel Ducamp in the 1920s who signed a urinal and was kind of the beginning of kind of this postmodern artist revolution where he said, This is now art because I want it to be.
00:33:53.000Is that we as conservatives, we need to get back into culture, obviously.
00:33:57.000We hear this a lot movies, entertainment, and art.
00:33:59.000But let's be very clear about the type of culture that we actually want to create.
00:34:03.000We want to create art that glorifies art.
00:34:07.000A pursuit and a relationship with your creator that speaks favorably of the Western canon, of Shakespeare, of the books that built our entire civilization.
00:34:20.000Instead, on Disney, you can go be a graphic designer to go tell eight year olds that transgenderism is normalized or whatever that crazy, right?
00:34:27.000That's like the new thing, which I think is completely and totally evil and wrong, where they have transgender people on Disney and Nickelodeon or whatever.
00:35:44.000Most European medieval architecture, Gothic architecture, embodies this.
00:35:47.000People are really afraid to talk about this topic.
00:35:49.000I don't know why, because they kind of loop it into some sort of like, you're a terrible person because you're talking about architecture.
00:35:54.000No, I want to live in a society that is aesthetically pleasant and beautiful.
00:35:58.000Now, to answer your question, which was totally unrelated to that, which is, I just, is this, which is if you're gonna get into the graphic arts and all of this, we need to do a better job as conservatives to embrace content creators and create those people.
00:36:10.000At the other side, if you have a passion for that, please try to form yourself into trying to glorify the good and to pursue the wonderful, not trying to disrupt things that work and be like, oh, this is a piece of art because it's like a Campbell's soup can that has been poured over, which is like some of the stuff in the.
00:36:27.000You guys ever see that video on YouTube?
00:36:29.000Where they had like the orange juice spill and they pretended it was a piece of art and people came by and took pictures of it.
00:36:33.000It's like they could be like, it really wasn't, but they persuaded themselves that it was is that art should glorify the good, not destroy the ideal.
00:36:48.000I'm a little nervous, so bear with me, but I got kind of a two parter.
00:36:52.000So, first, over the summer, you had a debate with a YouTuber, Vosh, on the Tim Pool podcast, and you guys had a conversation about critical race theory in school.
00:37:01.000And what the purpose of education should be.
00:37:04.000And if I believe, if I remember correctly, you said something along the lines of the purpose of education should be to kind of breed gratefulness for being in an awesome, amazing country.
00:37:18.000So, education comes from a Latin word which means to lead forth.
00:37:22.000It literally comes out of Socrates' allegory of the cave, well, Plato's allegory of the cave, as told by Socrates, of leading forth out of darkness into light.
00:37:31.000So, there's this debate right now of what is education?
00:37:34.000Should education be kind of a buffet line where you present students with all the different options and they kind of choose for themselves?
00:37:41.000Or should education be hopefully a commitment to things that are objectively true and good and beautiful and leading young people towards what is the beginning of philosophy, which is wonder?
00:37:53.000Like, wow, there's a world so big outside of things that I'm just beginning to understand and I know so little of it, but I want to go in the pursuit and the journey of maybe getting closer to it.
00:38:02.000So, those are two different types of definitions, right?
00:38:04.000So, one form of an educational definition is you know what?
00:38:08.000We are going to try to sample every single ideology and kids and students choose for themselves.
00:38:14.000Now, the downside is if you get really, really bad teachers, all of a sudden they're going to use that and they're going to be like, oh, well, we know Marxism is better than that, so at least we'd prefer the buffet line over serving bread lines of the equivalent of Marxism.
00:38:25.000Whereas in its ideal, though, in the classical sense, people that are teachers, people that want to lead forth, they need to be willing to make absolute objective claims in three categories in ethics.
00:38:47.000It's so far from that, it's hard to believe.
00:38:50.000Anyone here classically educated, you kind of know what I believe here?
00:38:52.000And you would know that it's not actually imposing those ideas, it's teaching the fundamentals of Greek, of Latin, and Hebrew, reading ancient and great books, and getting closer towards that hopeful end conclusion of a better citizen.
00:39:55.000Because I feel like I do agree with some of the things you said about education should be about objective truth and things like that, although I don't think necessarily ethics has an objective morality to it all the time.
00:40:07.000But I just, the root of your argument with Vosh was kind of, he was saying how you were arguing that the purpose of school shouldn't be to breed like mini activists.
00:40:19.000So from that, I kind of get the idea of whitewashing history a little bit.
00:40:23.000In order to not like breed activism, when in reality, I don't think education should like ascribe a morality to our country, it should kind of just be like, like you said, objective truth, history, and then they kind of will make out of it what they got.
00:40:39.000Yeah, so I would never support whitewashing anything, obviously.
00:40:42.000I think that if you fairly and read the founders as they are, you'll realize these were incredible men, that they were born into a world that they did not create, that by the time that they were.
00:40:54.000Exiting the world, slavery was on its way out.
00:40:56.000That the first ever anti slavery convention was hosted by Benjamin Franklin in Philadelphia in 1775.
00:41:03.000But I think a proper view of history using original texts, actual quotes, and going into the actual context of the time, I think actually creates a sense of pride and a sense of gratitude for living in that nation.
00:41:17.000I don't think we're going to explore that much more because I know we're low on time.
00:41:21.000But I'll say this final thing is that this is where we'll have clarity, but not agreement on this one issue.
00:41:26.000I believe there is an objective ethical code.
00:41:29.000I believe that there is an objective ethical code of how we treat people that are less powerful than us, of a proper way to organize society, of what the highest form of existence for a human being should be.
00:41:41.000I think one of the great roadmaps, in addition to the Bible, which is the greatest roadmap, but one of the roadmaps that isn't taught is Aristotle's ethics of what does a properly sold man look like, courage, contemplation, justice, friendship, all these things that need to be wrestled with and asked the question about.
00:41:57.000I think that if we say that there's no such thing as objective morality, then we're in nothing more than a power dynamic, which some people In control of our country, I actually believe.
00:42:04.000But thank you so much for being here tonight.
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00:45:05.000Well, I'm going to answer it, so that's fine.
00:45:07.000Yeah, I mean, I'm not a politician, nor do I want to be, so I actually answer questions and say things that are true, regardless of what CNN says.
00:45:14.000Yeah, I mean, well, first of all, just kind of like, obviously, they should care almost nothing about race, but I will kind of say, Because Kevin Brady's probably the wrong person or the perfect person to answer this question.
00:45:26.000I think he's way too fixated on taxes, to be perfectly honest.
00:45:29.000I think tax policy is not even close to the most important thing happening to our country, like, not even close.
00:45:35.000We have a generation that doesn't share values.
00:45:36.000We have immigration policy that's intentionally harming us, the destruction of the American family, opioid epidemic, sexual anarchy.
00:45:43.000Like, if you were to say, like, this big trade off, again, I don't like paying taxes.
00:45:50.000But the kind of pathological fixation that certain Republicans and conservatives have on, like, lowering corporate tax rates.
00:45:55.000When it's like, wait a second, divorces are going up, church attendance is going down, like our morality is being put in question, and like your whole thing is like lowering corporate taxes, is I think kind of low on the totem pole of actual like society bearing futures.
00:46:09.000And don't get me wrong, I'm all for free markets and lower taxes.
00:46:13.000But here's how I'll answer your question, which might not be how you might expect it, which is we should care less about taxes.
00:46:18.000Taxes should, we should care more about race.
00:46:20.000Here's what we should care more about we should care more about the nation, our fellow countrymen, our shared story, our history, and also a very simple question, which is this what kind of society do you want to live in?
00:46:30.000Do we want to live in a society with super low taxes, where no one speaks the same language, we all have a different interpretation of history, and we're kind of like the Singaporean colony?
00:46:39.000Or do we want to live in a country where all of a sudden families are getting back together, children are starting to be had again, where all of a sudden we are turning the corner away from some of the slippage morally I think we're having in our country, hopefully with immigration that prioritizes our fellow countrymen?
00:47:15.000Number one, I want to reiterate something I said earlier.
00:47:18.000If every single person commits themselves to being the same in public that you are in private, all of a sudden the number one form of censorship that has been occurring in America, which is self censorship, starts to go away.
00:47:32.000The number one form of censorship is you shutting up you or us shutting up us.
00:47:42.000That is a form of cultural censorship where all of a sudden we are allowing that pressure to dictate whether or not we are going to stand for what's right and for what we actually need to articulate.
00:47:52.000The other thing I'll say is this, which I want to reemphasize this, which is people say, Charlie, how do we win?
00:47:58.000We win when all of a sudden we stop allowing them to inflict the punishment.
00:48:03.000We win when all of a sudden we disempower them by showing no matter what you take from me, my salary, my job, my diploma, my friends who aren't really my friends, the thing that matters most is expressing.
00:48:16.000The values and the ideas and the truths that do not change.
00:48:20.000This country's not going to be saved overnight.
00:48:25.000They control a lot from Harvard to the New York Times to Google to Facebook, which is like the weirdest 24 hour news cycle of Facebook I've ever seen, but whatever, to so many other different things.
00:48:33.000The question is this the question is will people that still believe in the same American story, believe the Constitution is the greatest political document ever written, that believe natural rights are given to you by God, that believe in life, liberty, pursuit of happiness, the laws of nature and nature is God, and believe in the promise of the Declaration?
00:48:49.000That when in the course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands with another, that the separate equal stations are given to you by, it continues by saying laws of nature and nature is God.
00:49:00.000This is a very important question because we are now on that civilizational brink right now of whether or not, whether we're going to go the direction that they want us to go tribal warfare, tearing at each other's throats, or we could recommit ourselves.
00:49:12.000And it starts with this generation 18, 19, 20, 21 year olds in the audience and watching online, you were born into a world you did not create.
00:49:23.000Where you complain about everything, you march in the streets and say, My parents are a bunch of idiots, and, you know, give me a bunch of stuff.
00:49:30.000Or you could do this Hey, I wish my parents would have been more involved in this, but I'm not going to blame them.
00:49:34.000It says in the Bible very clearly to honor your mother and father because then you will live long in the land of which you are in.
00:49:40.000It's the only Ten Commandments with a promise.
00:49:41.000Instead, you should say, Look, maybe my parents could have been more involved, but they gave me an opportunity to live in the greatest nation ever to exist in the history of the world.
00:49:48.000I have things more going for me than not.
00:49:50.000I'm going to be filled with gratitude, not anger and venom, and say, Guess what?
00:49:54.000This generation, I'm telling you, we now have to lead the other generations that have been sitting idly by that either don't understand the stakes and circumstances, that are just kind of like, oh, things are going to go back to normal.
00:50:05.000They will only go back to how they were if we put them back to how they were.
00:50:09.000This is not a gravitational pull argument.
00:50:12.000Like, well, it's going to go back to how it used to be.
00:50:38.000We win with each person believing what you do actually matters.
00:50:42.000We win when all of a sudden we rise up and we dedicate ourselves to not caring about what other people say about us, but what is true objectively and the things that do not change.
00:50:51.000This country is a beautiful gift from God, everybody.
00:50:53.000And it's an honor to be here in this state alongside all of you.
00:50:57.000I want you to vision cast 10, 20, 30 years from now.
00:51:00.000I want to say the front page of the New York Times say the following sudden and shocking right turn happened post COVID 19 pandemic.
00:51:07.000When Generation Z and Millennials rose up against CRT for freedom in the Constitution, I want to see that headline.