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00:01:19.000Okay, so we're getting some emails, and I was on some text messages this morning with some people that you would recognize.
00:01:25.000And they said, Charlie, this is a terrible thing for the midterms.
00:01:29.000The fact that the United States Supreme Court has come in and overturns Roe versus Wade, this means we are going to lose the Senate and maybe the House.
00:01:49.000Putting a check on power is incredibly important.
00:01:52.000However, I am willing, and I think that you should be willing to say very clearly that the protection of the innocent and the unborn matters more than a potential political cost that might be associated with it.
00:02:09.000Getting rid of evil, it's going to be tough.
00:02:17.000I reject the premise because I do not believe that this decision will hurt Republicans at all going into November.
00:02:27.000Now, it might help Democrats a little bit with turnout, but if anything, it should give Republicans confidence that when they do actually get Republicans in office, that meaningful things can actually occur.
00:02:39.000Now, I will say this: Donald Trump deserves a lot of credit for putting Amy Coney Barrett, Neil Gorsuch, and Brett Kavanaugh on the U.S. Supreme Court, but also Mitch McConnell and the establishment Republicans, of whom I disagree with a lot, that are open borders in their seemingly very into adventurous wars.
00:03:17.000She and I sat down, we'd agree on a little bit, and that's fine.
00:03:20.000But I've always supported the candidacy of Susan Collins because she was very honest about how moderate she was.
00:03:25.000Now, here's the irony: Susan Collins is pro-choice.
00:03:30.000Is that Susan Collins is pro-abortion, but because she voted for Brett Kavanaugh against the mob and then ended up winning re-election, by the way, Susan Collins, a pro-abortion candidate in Maine, actually ends up being part of the reversal of abortion.
00:03:48.000And by the way, if it wasn't for Susan Collins, Brett Kavanaugh would not be on the U.S. Supreme Court.
00:04:16.000Now, look, I'm not one to go try and sing, you know, praises of rhinos and of establishment folks, but what frustrates me the most is not moderates we send to D.C.
00:04:26.000It's people that pretend to be conservative to their voters and then end up being moderates when they go to D.C. If you're a moderate, run as a moderate.
00:04:33.000If the voters give you political power, then okay.
00:04:36.000You were very honest with your voters.
00:04:38.000Susan Collins has been very honest with her voters for years.
00:04:56.000Unlike Mitt Romney, who campaigns like Ted Cruz and actually is more moderate than Susan Collins or some of these other establishment folks.
00:05:09.000And so in a very ironic turn of events, here's Susan Collins, who probably has already issued a tweet saying that she's concerned that Roe versus Wade will be, I almost guarantee, Connor, look it up.
00:05:23.000I almost guarantee Susan Collins is going to say, like, I don't like the decision, even though she was instrumental in the decision.
00:06:00.000Yeah, this is what Susan Collins says, which is fine, like whatever.
00:06:04.000She said, quote, if this leaked draft opinion is the final decision and this reporting is accurate, it'd be completely inconsistent with what Justice Gorsuch and Justice Kavanaugh said in their hearings and in our meetings in my office.
00:07:27.000Now, the essence of what Susan Collins might have heard might have been inconsistent, but I actually don't care what Susan Collins is putting on a press release.
00:07:47.000So if you try to create a team and one person stands for something and then they don't, you're not able to create that coalition.
00:07:55.000And this is one of the things that bothers us most about some of these more rhino senators is that they run like a super right winger in their states.
00:08:08.000What matters is Roe versus Wade is now repealed thanks to her decision.
00:08:12.000It would not have happened if it wasn't for Susan Collins, and God bless her for that.
00:08:16.000Despite her press releases, despite her own pro-abortion leanings or inklings.
00:08:21.000And by the way, regardless of your position on abortion, which I know there's a million different positions on abortions, not a million, but there's a lot.
00:08:29.000There's a lot of nuance people have with it.
00:08:32.000I have a very strong pro-life views, obviously.
00:09:26.000The Constitution was designed from a bottom-up perspective, and that's precisely what Alito and Roberts and Thomas and Amy Coney Barrett and Gorsuch decided in this leak decision is not that they think abortion was wrong.
00:09:39.000I would have made, I think if Clarence Thomas wrote the opinion, you're like, hey, I think that abortion is unconstitutional.
00:09:45.000I think Gorsuch and Alito would have agreed.
00:09:46.000Maybe Andy Kony Barrett, but I don't think they would have won Kavanaugh over with that.
00:09:50.000Instead, the way this was decided and the way that the prudent way to look at it is, look, what does the Constitution say?
00:09:58.000Why don't we allow the states to make their decisions?
00:12:07.000End the filibuster, codify Roe versus Wade with a national law protecting abortion rights, expand the Supreme Court, stop this horrifying injustice in its tracks.
00:12:19.000My favorite is when they tweet out that people are going to die.
00:12:24.000Like, nope, that's already been happening, actually.
00:12:28.000And by the way, this will motivate our base as well.
00:12:31.000And not to mention pro-life Catholics and moderates that are pro-life, especially in some of these states where Democrats are going to have a tough time.
00:12:39.000Arizona in particular, Georgia is a very pro-life state.
00:12:42.000North Carolina is a very pro-life state.
00:12:44.000Pennsylvania has a lot of pro-life Catholics that traditionally vote Democrat.
00:12:48.000So if that's on the ballot, look, if the Defense of Marriage Act, DOMA, no, that's not what it was.
00:12:58.000In 2004, Karl Rove, whom I have plenty of disagreements with, but he's always been really nice to me, but I totally disagree with him on some stuff, came out and had a brilliant idea, which was to put marriage referendums of one-man, one-woman marriage in all the key states across the country, bolstering Christian turnout in 2004, which is one of the reasons why George W. Bush won re-election against John Kerry.
00:13:26.000So maybe this will actually help increase turnout.
00:13:36.000Rachel Maddow is saying that if this ruling is published, abortion would become illegal in and around two dozen states due to so-called trigger laws, play cut 36.
00:13:48.000If, in fact, this ruling survives to see the light of day, which there's no reason to expect that it won't, at least in substance, do so, from what we understand from Mr. Gerstein's reporting tonight, this would have the effect of enacting what are so-called trigger laws in more than two dozen states in the country.
00:14:05.000More than two dozen Republican-controlled states would immediately ban abortion upon the publication of this ruling.
00:14:14.000And so that would be 24 states that have said that if Roe versus Wade ever gets repealed, that abortion would be illegal.
00:14:22.000Basically, this would allow states to determine if they want abortion to be illegal, putting the power back into the people.
00:14:28.000Now, obviously, I believe it's a moral stain on the entire country.
00:14:32.000I'd love to see it abolished completely, but that's incredible.
00:14:47.000By the way, if you want to go to my kind of a sidebar when I'm looking through the cut sheet here, this goes to show the argument that how, this is a weird coincidence.
00:14:55.000Amazon new employee benefits allow them to get $4,000 in reimbursement for traveled costs to get an abortion.
00:15:01.000What are they going to fly private to go get an abortion?
00:15:06.000Amazon told its employees today that they would be providing a new workplace benefit to allow workers to travel to other states if they need to for abortion procedures.
00:15:17.000Well, I don't have any comments on a decision by a private sector company.
00:15:21.000We know our view on the archaic abortion laws that we've seen put into place across the country in some states, far too many states.
00:15:30.000So Amazon comes out with new employee benefits saying that $4,000 in reimbursement costs for travel to get an abortion.
00:15:36.000By the way, every time you use Amazon, remember, you're funding the abortion industry.
00:15:40.000$4,000 in reimbursement for their travel costs to get an abortion.
00:15:43.000I'll go into that at a different time, why Corporate America is super supportive of that.
00:15:50.000Hey everybody, Charlie Kirk here with the left in total panic over Twitter and DHS essentially creating their own ministry of truth.
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00:16:52.000So we have a really good guest with us right now.
00:16:54.000Fiery but mostly peaceful is the name of the book by Julio Rosas.
00:17:01.000And again, it's called Fiery But Mostly Peaceful, one of the best frontline journalists in the country, a legitimate journalist, unlike the people at the New York Times, the Washington Post.
00:17:10.000Julio, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.
00:17:47.000And then it shifted from, oh, so this is going to stop to when is it going to stop?
00:17:54.000And it reached a point to where not only was I obviously seeing the devastation and destruction that BLM and Antifa rioters were bringing to American cities, but then the other half of it was, well, the media was really downplaying or trying to excuse or trying to justify what was happening because of who was committing the violent acts.
00:18:13.000And it was kind of, well, the ends justify the means or, you know, you're not really, you're focusing on the wrong things by focusing on business owners who had their places destroyed.
00:18:22.000You know, this is what really matters.
00:18:23.000And for me, it's really, I take really big offense to that because, like I said, I was seeing this firsthand in city after city.
00:18:31.000And more importantly, people were innocent people who had nothing to do with, you know, for example, George Floyd or Jacob Blake and Kenosha.
00:18:44.000A lot of them were already struggling with the effects of the COVID-19 lockdowns.
00:18:48.000And now this was being thrown on top of it.
00:18:51.000And then the people in power, both within the media class and political class, saying, well, it doesn't really matter.
00:18:56.000You know, what you're going through doesn't matter as much.
00:18:58.000And so I wanted, so I wrote this book to talk about my experiences and also share the experiences of others whose voices were not really highlighted by the rest of the media.
00:19:07.000And also to call out the media and Democratic politicians for downplaying this very, very destructive time period in our nation's history.
00:19:17.000Yeah, so talk a little about kind of being on the front lines, though, right?
00:19:20.000Because you covered it in a way that was very compelling and was honestly exceptional and took a lot of courage and it took a lot of time and a lot of work.
00:19:29.000Most journalists weren't willing to do that.
00:19:31.000Give us just kind of some first person kind of snapshots, right?
00:19:35.000I mean, you were right there on the front lines.
00:19:39.000So the basic example of just kind of how these things work is just with, for example, with Kenosha, with specifically the Kyle Rittenhouse case.
00:19:50.000And that was a very pivotal and very important thing to be present for.
00:19:54.000Granted, I didn't expect to be in that.
00:19:56.000It was just, it just kind of happened.
00:19:57.000But it really solidified my reasoning for why I did this work.
00:20:04.000Now, I didn't set out that night to try to prove someone's innocence, but obviously throughout that case and throughout the trial, which I also covered and talk a little bit about in the book, it's just the importance of just record what's happening.
00:20:38.000I mean, not just with Kenosha, but a lot of these other places too.
00:20:42.000And, you know, I have to wear body armor.
00:20:44.000I have to wear gas masks when the need arises from tear gas or from wherever.
00:20:51.000And so it's a very taxing job, but I enjoyed doing it just because, again, a lot of the rest of the mainstream media, they're not going to be willing to put themselves there.
00:21:24.000And so let's talk a little bit about kind of how the left views the mob, I guess you could call it, right?
00:21:30.000So last night they leak an early decision of what looks like to be the overturning of Roe versus Wade, almost trying to kind of stow a mob reaction, right?
00:21:43.000Like swarms of people and potential riots.
00:21:53.000Do they view them as destructive or an impediment, kind of an annoyance?
00:21:59.000How do they view these kind of mass events of destruction?
00:22:03.000So the far left definitely views them as a tool.
00:22:07.000I mean, it's very much the epitome of the ends justify the means.
00:22:11.000Now, for it kind of, depending on who you're talking to in the far left, is kind of sometimes they just want to defund the police, sometimes they want to abolish the police.
00:22:18.000And FIFA, they want to completely overthrow the U.S. government, right?
00:22:21.000But they absolutely view just having chaos and mayhem as a way to achieve their goals.
00:22:47.000And really, as I've learned kind of through research for the book and talking to business owners who survived this, for insurance, for example, not every business has the right insurance to cover this type of event.
00:23:01.000I mean, really, from the company's perspective, that's like an act of domestic terrorism.
00:23:05.000So you didn't have a domestic terrorism coverage.
00:23:08.000And these are very small businesses usually that were targeted.
00:23:16.000And so the far left really does view this as the ends justify the means.
00:23:22.000And they're more than happy to throw people under the bus to get what they want.
00:23:29.000And that's why it's very disturbing to see this sort of tacit, very low-key approval from politicians, from people with large platforms.
00:23:42.000Because, you know, in my view, I don't see how destroying communities and having just wanton violence achieve the goal of defunding the police because, I mean, just on overtime, a lot of officers got overtime over this because they had to constantly be out there.
00:23:58.000And so there's actually a problem with some cities not having enough funding to pay for that.
00:24:03.000And so, and then they now have justification to have things like the military surplus armored vehicles and riot equipment and protective equipment.
00:24:12.000It really kind of backfired in that way.
00:24:14.000But now we're still dealing with the effects of the riots because the criminals saw how far people were able to get away with things.
00:24:22.000And so now it's like kind of a low-level type of criminality with the high crime rates and the progressive DAs letting people out with little to no bail under this veneer of racial justice because of what happened in 2020.
00:24:36.000And so really, I mean, this is snowballing and it's really very devastating to these communities, even to this day, just in a different way.
00:24:43.000Yeah, I mean, that's such an important point.
00:24:45.000And I mean, they try to minimize the violence and the destruction.
00:24:59.000The protection of private property is fundamental to Western society.
00:25:03.000So, Julio, let me ask you: how are the protests right now in the Roe versus Wade thing?
00:25:07.000And how serious do you think they're going to get?
00:25:10.000So, I was out at the Supreme Court last night just seeing, and it got a little lively because there were some pro-life people that came out also in celebration, but it was overwhelmingly pro-abortion people.
00:25:26.000But, you know, so as of right now, they are peaceful, mostly peaceful, actually.
00:25:32.000There wasn't actually anything, you know, rocks or bottles being thrown.
00:25:37.000What I will say in terms of, because people have like, they were messaging me as soon as the news broke, like, oh, you might have a sequel to your book a lot sooner than you thought.
00:25:44.000What I'll say is that kind of the theory that I have with this is that it requires buildup.
00:25:50.000You know, these things build up over time because there is a lot of rage.
00:25:53.000Because if we look at 2020, it was a combination of the COVID lockdowns and the effects that had.
00:25:56.000It was a presidential election with Donald Trump where people either really love him or they really freaking hate him.
00:26:02.000And then the spark was what happened to George Floyd.
00:26:05.000So I think very much, I could be wrong.
00:26:08.000These things, these things can spiral control as we've seen.
00:26:10.000But the way I view it is, I think maybe what this decision or this potential, not yet final decision, but if when Roe versus Wade gets actually overturned, I think that's going to be kind of one of the tenants that leads to that buildup to then maybe lead to some more destruction.
00:26:26.000And that's really sad because that then that means that our natural default or people's natural default to not to their reaction to not getting what they want is going to be violence.
00:26:38.000And this is what I'm saying, where these things escalate.
00:26:42.000And if we don't really kind of come back from the ledge that we're kind of careing towards, it's going to be bad.
00:26:48.000And it's not just have to deal with Roe versus Wade.
00:26:50.000Like I said, there could be some other things too.
00:26:52.000I mean, when we talk about economic insecurity, I mean, the fastest way to get people to riot is to take away their ability to make a living or to feed their family.
00:27:01.000I mean, and that's why when we look at the Biden administration as a whole and what a disaster it's been for the country, I mean, the building blocks for something like 2020 to happen again is very real.
00:27:14.000And, you know, I'm not trying to be like this doom and gloom.
00:27:16.000It's just that I've seen that anger and I've seen that hatred just boil over.
00:29:36.000So Kirsten Sinema comes out and defends the filibuster in a statement criticizing decision to overturn Roe versus Wade.
00:29:44.000She says, quote, protections in the Senate safeguarding against the erosion of women's access to health care have been used a half dozen times in the past 10 years and are more important now than ever.
00:29:53.000Throughout my time in Congress, I've always supported women's access to health care.
00:29:56.000I'm a co-sponsor of the Women's Health Protection Act, and I'll continue working with anyone protecting women's ability to make their decisions about their futures.
00:30:04.000She's still defending the filibuster, which means that you cannot go to, you cannot use the filibuster to repeal, not repeal, to enshrine or to codify Roe versus Wade.
00:30:22.000Cut 38, Corey Bush, who is from Missouri, I believe, St. Louis, abolish the filibuster and force pro-life Americans to fund abortions for pregnant people.
00:30:35.000Yes, I think that the president should really, that's been my stance, abolish the filibuster.
00:30:41.000You know, but when I think about what else the president could do, one option could be through the federal, I'm sorry, through the Food and Drug Administration.
00:30:49.000The president could have the FDA issue regulations to expand access to medical, medication abortion.
00:30:54.000You know, we need to bring that back into the conversation so that pregnant people could have access to a two-pill regimen safely and be able to end a pregnancy.
00:31:03.000So, look, you just got to brace yourself for unrivaled irrationality that will plague our land for the next couple of days and weeks.
00:31:10.000If you thought you saw something with the COVID stuff, you have not seen anything yet.
00:31:15.000I mean, just, I don't even know what she's saying.
00:31:17.000She's talking about the Food and Drug Administration and funding chemical abortions.
00:31:20.000Whoopi Goldberg, philosopher queen herself, has come out.
00:31:25.000She said, quote, the decision to have an abortion is between my doctor, myself, and my child.
00:32:03.000Their hypocrisy is so revealing, obviously.
00:32:06.000Their hypocrisy is so transparent, where they're the ones that are screaming for bodily autonomy and they were perfectly okay with vaccine mandates and mask mandates.
00:32:35.000Just because someone is shorter than me does not mean I have a moral obligation or a moral right, I should say, or a moral ability to be able to crush them.
00:32:41.000Level of development, just because someone is less along the process of becoming someone like me, they're all human, but becoming an adult doesn't mean that they should be able to be eliminated.
00:32:55.000Environment, where someone is means nothing.
00:32:57.000Whether someone is in Cincinnati or Columbus, they have equal human rights no matter what.
00:33:01.000And degree of dependency, just because someone is dependent on their mother doesn't all of a sudden mean that they can be abolished.
00:33:07.000Sled, size, level of development, environment, and degree of dependency.
00:33:10.000Those are the four arguments that the left will use.
00:33:13.000And all of them have incredible contradictions within them.
00:33:19.000Because if you actually extrapolate the moral argument to the rest of society, it actually doesn't apply at all or the rest of civilization, how they want things to operate or how it works.
00:33:30.000We believe that human right is worthy of protection.
00:33:32.000We believe that human beings should not be able to be terminated without their consent or in the womb, obviously.
00:33:41.000And what does it say for a society or civilization if you can't protect those that can't protect themselves?
00:33:47.000And for those of you that might be pro-abortion listening right now, just it's a very simple question.