The Charlie Kirk Show - Muslims, The Real Victims of 9-11?

00:00:03.000 My name is Charlie Kirk.

00:00:05.000 I run the largest pro-American student organization in the country fighting for the future of our republic.

00:00:11.000 My call is to fight evil and to proclaim truth.

00:00:14.000 If the most important thing for you is just feeling good, you're going to end up miserable.

00:00:19.000 But if the most important thing is doing good, you'll end up purposeful.

00:00:24.000 College is a scam, everybody.

00:00:26.000 You got to stop sending your kids to college.

00:00:27.000 You should get married as young as possible and have as many kids as possible.

00:00:31.000 Go start a Turning Point USA college chapter.

00:00:33.000 Go start a Turning Point USA high school chapter.

00:00:35.000 Go find out how your church can get involved.

00:00:37.000 Sign up and become an activist.

00:00:39.000 I gave my life to the Lord in fifth grade.

00:00:41.000 Most important decision I ever made in my life.

00:00:43.000 And I encourage you to do the same.

00:00:45.000 Here I am, Lord Museman.

00:00:48.000 Buckle up, everybody.

00:00:49.000 Here, we go.

00:00:56.000 The Charlie Kirk Show is proudly sponsored by Preserve Gold, the leading gold and silver experts and the only precious metals company I recommend to my family, friends, and viewers.

00:01:09.000 All right, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.

00:01:11.000 I'm Andrew Colvett.

00:01:12.000 Happy Monday.

00:01:13.000 Blake Neff is back.

00:01:14.000 I'm back.

00:01:15.000 You couldn't keep me away forever.

00:01:17.000 Yeah.

00:01:18.000 He was, we were worried he was going to be taking a vow of chastity.

00:01:22.000 And what else?

00:01:23.000 A poverty?

00:01:25.000 Yeah, there's like a whole bunch of things.

00:01:26.000 Yeah, I was off.

00:01:28.000 A cousin of mine is joining.

00:01:30.000 What was the name of it?

00:01:31.000 It was, there's like two names for it.

00:01:33.000 It's becoming a nun. 0.87

00:01:34.000 The order of Nexium.

00:01:35.000 That's the...

00:01:36.000 Oh, no, So she joined an order of nuns in a convent in Naples, Italy.

00:01:44.000 That's actually like the exact opposite of Nexium.

00:01:46.000 Yes.

00:01:47.000 No, Blake told me.

00:01:50.000 Blake told me, and I was like, it's pretty based, Blake, that you have a family member like that.

00:01:55.000 I wish I did.

00:01:56.000 I actually think it's great when people feel that type of devotion that they're willing to give up so many of the pleasures of life or the appetites of life and to devote their life to God.

00:02:07.000 I think it's a beautiful thing.

00:02:09.000 We are also joined by Alex Marlow, editor-in-chief of Breitbart News.

00:02:14.000 Welcome to the show, man.

00:02:15.000 I'm really glad to be here.

00:02:16.000 You guys have been doing such an excellent job since Charlie's passing.

00:02:19.000 Condolences to you guys.

00:02:20.000 First time I've got to express it in person.

00:02:22.000 You guys have done an amazing job.

00:02:24.000 And we're all still devastated.

00:02:26.000 I miss him every day and just happy to be here next to his seat for a couple of days here.

00:02:31.000 Yeah.

00:02:31.000 So yeah, exactly.

00:02:32.000 Alex is actually going to join us for not only today, but tomorrow.

00:02:36.000 He made the pilgrimage out and we were honored to have him.

00:02:40.000 And yeah, I mean, Alex, let's start right there.

00:02:42.000 I mean, you know, you were probably one of the closest people to Charlie in the news media.

00:02:48.000 You were a weekly guest on the show, at least for the last five or six months before Charlie's passing, I would say.

00:02:55.000 I think it was something like that.

00:02:56.000 But for the life of the show, you came on regularly.

00:02:59.000 You're also the editor-in-chief of Breitbart.

00:03:01.000 You've been a friend for years.

00:03:03.000 You've spoken at the events.

00:03:05.000 You know, the floor is yours.

00:03:07.000 I mean, you know, this is a reality Blake and I have been navigating day in, day out, looking at that chair, being in this studio.

00:03:16.000 Like you said, just missing our friend, missing a leader of the country, leader of the conservative movement.

00:03:22.000 And yet we also understand that Charlie would want us to keep doing this.

00:03:26.000 He would want us to keep taking care of Turning Point and keep wanting us to march forward and support Erica in any way we can.

00:03:33.000 But this is, like you said, this is your first time kind of coming back to the show and being around this.

00:03:37.000 And so I want to give you the opportunity just to kind of reflect on what these last six, seven weeks, what are we at now, have meant to you.

00:03:44.000 Well, first of all, I'm just really just so pleased with how people took so many of Charlie's lessons to heart and people making a wholesale change in their life because Charlie inspired them.

00:03:55.000 I think, Andrew, you and I even talked about this briefly privately about how we knew Charlie was huge, but it's hard to picture visuals in Croatia or whatever we were seeing.

00:04:04.000 I mean, after he passed, which is amazing.

00:04:06.000 And also, of course, the connection to his faith is so big, how just the marrying of faith and politics is so overdue in this country.

00:04:13.000 The godlessness has just gotten way out of control.

00:04:15.000 That's a huge lasting legacy of Charlie.

00:04:18.000 But apropos of what we're doing today on the show, he really became a journalist, which I would never say it to his face because that would have been an insult I would never wish on my worst enemies.

00:04:27.000 But it is something that the show became a place where thought leaders and political leaders and spiritual leaders would come to get the message out because they knew it was one of the best places to get the message out.

00:04:37.000 And I found that amazing that of all the things he was doing, he was also a force in journalism, not just activism and social media and the campus tours.

00:04:45.000 And I thought about why.

00:04:46.000 And of course, the work ethic comes first to mind, but how he would hone the arguments down to a point.

00:04:53.000 He would just get it so that every single point, not only did he have all this knowledge and wisdom, but the knowledge part in particular.

00:04:59.000 He had so much to say and he had so much history to back it up, so much data to back it up.

00:05:03.000 But then the focusing, and South Park tried to make fun of him for it, but it wasn't effective in making fun of him.

00:05:09.000 He would focus the arguments.

00:05:10.000 And that's how you convince people who are completely new.

00:05:13.000 You might only have an elevator pitch.

00:05:15.000 You might only have a second or two with them.

00:05:17.000 Sell me this in a sentence or two.

00:05:20.000 Charlie was the best I've ever seen at that.

00:05:22.000 And he really had that focus.

00:05:23.000 And I hope that's something that as the show continues, and those of us who follow in Charlie's footsteps and worked alongside him, I hope we all challenge ourselves to get better at that so that we can make our points crisp and precise.

00:05:34.000 So we've got the data, we got the info, so that people can take that and use it to grow his movement and his vision.

00:05:39.000 Yeah, you know, that's a really interesting observation, especially when you think about the South Park parody of Charlie and how we were watching and we're like, wow, they actually got that one pretty right because he had gotten some of the arguments down to such a distilled, powerful formula that even when they were parodying the arguments on campus, Charlie had succeeded in making them ubiquitous.

00:06:08.000 They'd become cultural and almost memeable, right?

00:06:12.000 And that was Charlie's power of taking pretty lofty ideas.

00:06:15.000 We think of politics as being lofty, and he would make it so digestible for the common man.

00:06:20.000 And you come from the world of DC and the think tank world, and everybody wants to prove how brilliant they are.

00:06:27.000 And so they make these white papers.

00:06:28.000 And Charlie was like, we're not a think tank, we're a battle tank.

00:06:31.000 And you saw that up close because did he say that?

00:06:35.000 That sounds like something he would say.

00:06:36.000 Yeah, no, like he said, turning point is not a think tank.

00:06:38.000 We're a battle tank.

00:06:39.000 Yeah.

00:06:40.000 At least early on, he used to say that a lot.

00:06:42.000 I don't know if he works.

00:06:44.000 It very much is true.

00:06:45.000 Yeah, it is true.

00:06:46.000 There was a certain humbleness to the fact that he would feel like people weren't going to give him a half an hour and he could entertain you for half an hour and teach you stuff for half an hour.

00:06:54.000 You could do the three-hour podcasts.

00:06:56.000 No, but he said, I might only have you for 70 seconds.

00:06:59.000 I might only have you for 20 seconds.

00:07:01.000 And there was something that I thought was really, even though he was a big star, that was something that I thought was very populist of him.

00:07:07.000 That I'm not, I'm not expecting you to give me your whole afternoon to hear all the things I've ever done.

00:07:13.000 Let me make one great point to you.

00:07:14.000 And I love that approach because that's something that everyone's got time to hear one great point.

00:07:19.000 You could just throw it right at him.

00:07:21.000 And that was one thing I've been thinking about a lot, where he really was the best at.

00:07:24.000 And I hope that people take that to heart in their personal lives.

00:07:26.000 Yeah, no, that's that's really well said.

00:07:28.000 And yeah, we are, we do attempt to continue on his legacy.

00:07:32.000 And, you know, I'll never forget when everything happened and Erica looked at me and looked at some of the people on the team and said, you know, the show, you have to keep the show going.

00:07:42.000 And I was like, yes, ma'am.

00:07:44.000 And I was like, you know, can I ask, like, what's in your heart when you say that?

00:07:48.000 She said, they will not silence my husband's voice.

00:07:51.000 And this show was such an important piece of what he did.

00:07:55.000 And so we're honored to be here.

00:07:58.000 I'm grateful to have Blake and the team, you know, when he's not traveling in Naples taking vows that he'll regret later.

00:08:06.000 No, I'm kidding.

00:08:06.000 He didn't take any vows.

00:08:08.000 It makes me laugh in my inner monologue to think of you doing that.

00:08:13.000 No, so, but, you know, we have from Mikey and Danny and Daisy.

00:08:19.000 Is Mikey here?

00:08:19.000 I gotta say hi to him.

00:08:20.000 Yeah, Mikey, I think he'll be around later.

00:08:22.000 That's important to me.

00:08:23.000 Yeah, no, so, no, for sure.

00:08:25.000 But yeah, this is a sacred duty that we have, both on the turning point side and here on the show, to sort of be that drumbeat, be, you know, invite the thought leaders like yourself, be the tip of the spear and get that messaging out there time and again.

00:08:41.000 We're honored to be partnering with Alan Jackson Ministries.

00:08:44.000 And today, I want to point you to their podcast.

00:08:46.000 It's called Culture and Christianity, the Allen Jackson Podcast.

00:08:50.000 What makes it unique is Pastor Alan's biblical perspective.

00:08:54.000 He takes the truth from the Bible and applies it to issues we're facing today, gender confusion, abortion, immigration, Doge, Trump in the White House, issues in the church.

00:09:02.000 He doesn't just discuss the problems.

00:09:04.000 In every episode, he gives practical things we can do to make a difference.

00:09:08.000 His guests have incredible expertise and powerful testimonies.

00:09:12.000 They've been great friends.

00:09:13.000 And now you can hear from Charlie in his own words.

00:09:15.000 Each episode will make you recognize the power of your faith and how God can use your life to impact our world today.

00:09:21.000 The Culture and Christianity podcast is informative and encouraging.

00:09:25.000 You could find it on YouTube, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts.

00:09:28.000 Be sure to subscribe so you don't miss any episodes.

00:09:30.000 Alan Jackson Ministries is working hard to bring biblical truth back into our culture.

00:09:35.000 You can find out more about Pastor Allen and the ministry at alanjackson.com forward slash Charlie.

00:09:44.000 So, we got to play some clips here.

00:09:45.000 We got to get you up to speed on these Mamdani clips because they were basically the news story this weekend.

00:09:53.000 So, I want to start with, I think, the most egregious.

00:09:57.000 And that is him invoking Islamophobia after 9-11 and talking about who the real victims were.

00:10:02.000 Play cut 55.

00:10:04.000 I want to use this moment to speak to the Muslims of New York City.

00:10:09.000 I want to speak to the memory of my aunt who stopped taking the subway after September 11th because she did not feel safe in her hijab.

00:10:25.000 Yeah, I have a few things to say about that.

00:10:28.000 So, first of all, it's not confirmed, but some people have looked into his alleged aunts.

00:10:33.000 And so, first, he's from like a mixed background.

00:10:36.000 I don't know if we have the image of it, but he appears to only have one known aunt on his paternal side, which is the one with an Islamic background.

00:10:44.000 And she was living in Tanzania when 9-11 happened, and there are no photos of her wearing a hijab.

00:10:51.000 So, this may all be quite exaggerated or possibly even made up, though.

00:10:56.000 We must prepare ourselves.

00:10:57.000 We're going to inevitably get the swoop and world.

00:11:01.000 Actually, in the Indo-Ugandan community, aunt is just uses a term of respect for any older woman who's like a friend. 0.99

00:11:08.000 They do that crap. 0.98

00:11:09.000 So, we're dealing with that. 1.00

00:11:11.000 But, two, it's also just fake.

00:11:12.000 Like, so some people have reacted and said, like, oh, boo-hoo, people didn't like Muslims much after, you know, they murdered 3,000 Americans for no reason.

00:11:19.000 But the more galling thing is it's just the complete opposite of reality.

00:11:23.000 You can look at the polls, or you could just remember it, if you're old enough like me or you guys to remember all of that, that we got this giant charm offensive towards Islam. 0.97

00:11:34.000 You know, Bush came out and he said, this is not Islam. 0.83

00:11:36.000 Islam is a religion of peace, even though Muhammad was not a man of peace and, in fact, repeatedly urged his followers to take sex slaves from enemy populations. 0.56

00:11:44.000 But we can talk about that later.

00:11:45.000 And so you can look at Pew Research.

00:11:47.000 They asked like, you know, do you have a favorable opinion of Islam after 9-11?

00:11:51.000 And it went, you know, who went up the most in how positively they viewed Islam after 9-11?

00:11:56.000 Conservative Republicans.

00:11:58.000 They went from 35% favorability to 64% favorability, higher than everyone except liberal Democrats.

00:12:04.000 Everyone went up in how they viewed them.

00:12:07.000 And then, of course, we went and we spent $2 trillion nation building in Afghanistan, a 100% Muslim country, and Iraq, a 95% Muslim country.

00:12:15.000 We let in millions of immigrants from the Middle East.

00:12:18.000 We continue to do this.

00:12:19.000 I think we let in 250,000 Afghans after that war ended.

00:12:23.000 And so we basically went all out to welcome tons of Muslims.

00:12:28.000 Vast majority of them are not really contributing that much to America, in my opinion.

00:12:32.000 A huge, a very disproportionate share of Somalis, Afghans, and so on are just on the dole, effectively.

00:12:38.000 And then this guy, this slime ball is coming out and he's guilt-tripping us because he says his aunt felt uncomfortable wearing a hijab on the subway.

00:12:46.000 Nothing actually happened to her, unlike the 3,000 people who got blown up on 9-11.

00:12:51.000 And then he's coming in and he's saying, oh, my campaign platform is we need to up taxes on white neighborhoods so we can funnel more money to like, you know, my ethnic compatriots, which is what he's running on. 0.67

00:13:01.000 That's he literally says, tax white neighborhoods more.

00:13:04.000 That is what he says. 0.97

00:13:05.000 It's just so despicable.

00:13:06.000 Can we hear the clip again?

00:13:06.000 There's a part I want to point out, which is kind of unbelievable.

00:13:09.000 Yeah, 55.

00:13:09.000 Go ahead and throw it up.

00:13:10.000 I want to use this moment to speak to the Muslims of New York City.

00:13:15.000 I want to speak to the memory of my aunt.

00:13:19.000 Hey, pause right there, right there, right there.

00:13:21.000 You think he's going to say she was on one of the planes?

00:13:24.000 She died on the plane.

00:13:25.000 And he says, no, she couldn't take the bus because the real bad guys here.

00:13:30.000 And not because anything happened.

00:13:31.000 No, like she felt uncomfortable.

00:13:33.000 Maybe people looked at her weird.

00:13:34.000 Perfect point.

00:13:35.000 It's not like she also got stabbed on the bus or she got an evil eye on the bus.

00:13:39.000 No, no, she felt nervous about being on the bus.

00:13:41.000 You know, I can think of a lot of people who feel uncomfortable in various Western countries going on the bus or on the train.

00:13:45.000 I wonder, you know, compared to 20 years ago, I feel like something happened.

00:13:49.000 Okay, three white guys here.

00:13:50.000 How many of you that makes people less likely to do that?

00:13:52.000 How many of us are taking the bus first?

00:13:54.000 Like, that's our first mode of public transportation if we go to New York.

00:13:58.000 Nope.

00:13:58.000 I don't think I've ever taken a bus in New York.

00:13:59.000 I've been there 50 times.

00:14:00.000 Like, it's the, I'm taking something else other than the bus.

00:14:03.000 And the thought here is not just who the victims are, which obviously he's saying the victims are the Muslims.

00:14:08.000 Who are the bad guys?

00:14:10.000 New Yorkers. 0.98

00:14:11.000 New Yorkers are the oppressors in this scenario. 0.92

00:14:14.000 It's not really New Yorkers.

00:14:15.000 Let's be honest.

00:14:16.000 What he's really saying is somebody who looks like Daniel Penny.

00:14:19.000 Yeah.

00:14:20.000 Those are the bad guys. 0.88

00:14:22.000 New Yorkers. 0.73

00:14:23.000 And this is the whole shtick.

00:14:24.000 I actually put out a tweet this weekend.

00:14:26.000 It's like he's playing the victim like a good little communist is trained to do.

00:14:32.000 Because what they do is they're going to weaponize grievance politics in order to say the oppressors deserve all that's coming for them.

00:14:40.000 And it feels like this is a mask off moment for Mom Donu because he's so ahead in the polls now.

00:14:45.000 He is, I mean, credit where it's due.

00:14:47.000 He is the most talented politician running for New York City mayor.

00:14:51.000 There's not a question.

00:14:52.000 And he's arguably the leader of the Democrat Party nationally, I would say.

00:14:57.000 And he's a good talker.

00:14:59.000 He's got a good line of BS, as President Trump likes to say.

00:15:05.000 This is the Charlie Kirk show.

00:15:07.000 We are all about saving babies with pre-born.

00:15:10.000 There are 24,836 kindergartners starting school this month who would not be alive if it hadn't been for what pre-born did in 2019.

00:15:22.000 That's how many babies were saved that year because of gifts of ultrasounds from people just like you in this audience.

00:15:30.000 When a woman considering abortion sees her baby on that ultrasound and hears that baby's heartbeat, it doubles.

00:15:37.000 Let me repeat.

00:15:37.000 It doubles the chance that she will choose life.

00:15:41.000 $140 gives five mothers a free ultrasound and saves babies.

00:15:46.000 $280 can save 10 babies, and just $28 a month can save a baby a month for less than $1 a day.

00:15:54.000 A $15,000 gift will provide an ultrasound machine that will save babies' lives for years and years to come.

00:16:00.000 Charlie and Erica love Pre-Born.

00:16:03.000 Charlie loved it so much.

00:16:04.000 He believed in it so much.

00:16:05.000 He was a donor.

00:16:06.000 Whether you want to save one baby or five or hundreds, it's just a phone call or a click away.

00:16:10.000 Join me now, saving babies.

00:16:12.000 Call 833-850-2229 or click on the Pre-Born banner at CharlieKirk.com today.

00:16:21.000 So I think there's just too much more, Momdani.

00:16:25.000 We have so much news we're going to get to, but this is just such a rich topic.

00:16:28.000 I want to make sure that we get to all of it.

00:16:30.000 And I believe the clip is: this is on memory, cut 90.

00:16:34.000 Growing up in the shadow of 9-11, I have known what it means to live with an undercurrent of suspicion.

00:16:39.000 I will always remember the disdain I faced, the way my name could immediately become Muhammad, and how I could return to my city only to be asked in a double-mirrored room at the airport if I had any plan of attacking it.

00:16:51.000 To be Muslim in New York is to expect indignity.

00:16:55.000 Hold on.

00:16:56.000 Do you have it?

00:16:57.000 Does Zoran Momdani have any plan of attacking New York City?

00:17:01.000 I would wager, yes, he does.

00:17:03.000 He's doing it politically.

00:17:04.000 He's doing it through the front door, you could argue.

00:17:06.000 He has vowed to, you know, I feel like if a guy went on TV and said, I am going to release every single person from Rikers Island, I think that's the plot line of one of the Manolan Batman movies.

00:17:20.000 But now he's just doing it, but because he's a politician, it's a justice reform line, a good line of BS.

00:17:26.000 Go ahead, Alex.

00:17:27.000 But that was where Momdani was saying he's the victim of 9-11.

00:17:30.000 Not to see his aunt.

00:17:31.000 He couldn't take the bus.

00:17:32.000 I am suspicious of him, though.

00:17:34.000 He's like, I've lived under this cloud of suspicion.

00:17:36.000 I'm suspicious of you, proudly.

00:17:38.000 And also, think about what 9-11 is.

00:17:41.000 It is the single greatest act of intentional violence against Americans in modern history.

00:17:45.000 And he's the guy who said violence is a social construct.

00:17:48.000 It's like when you start adding these data points and you ignore the smile with the toilet bowl teeth grin that he's got with the porcelain whites, then it is very scary if you were reading this on paper.

00:17:57.000 When he presents it, it doesn't.

00:17:58.000 It seems, oh, maybe, maybe there's something to it.

00:18:01.000 But when you actually read it, if you read the quotes, these are truly insane quotes.

00:18:05.000 Well, we should, I mean, we shouldn't even, we should be clear about what it is because, as far as I know, there's no evidence Zoran is a particularly devout Muslim in any way.

00:18:13.000 I don't know that we've ever seen him pray that wasn't for a photo op, which, in fact, it'd be fun to ask him what the five pillars of Islam are.

00:18:19.000 But instead, what he is, is he's a very real thing you see that is very common on the left.

00:18:25.000 It's like a performative, he is taking the Islamic heritage and he's emphasizing it purely to emphasize that he is like not American and is to some extent anti-American.

00:18:36.000 It's the sort of Islam as the global religious flag of being anti-West, of having a grievance against the West, of wanting to, in his case, you know, plunder and bring down the West. 1.00

00:18:49.000 That is what he adopts it as. 0.74

00:18:51.000 Otherwise, he's, you know, more or less just an ordinary, you know, cranky Marxist.

00:18:56.000 Well, you know, it's interesting.

00:18:57.000 So he has this big rally in New York.

00:19:01.000 He gets AOC.

00:19:03.000 He gets Bernie Sanders.

00:19:04.000 He gets Kathy Hochul and Hakeem Jeffries are now endorsing him.

00:19:10.000 And so, Alex, here's the question: Is there any daylight between, yeah, there's the rally?

00:19:15.000 I mean, this is like 13,000 people came out for Zoran.

00:19:18.000 And you just look at the, there's a bunch of Sikhs, I believe, behind him.

00:19:22.000 I think those are Sikhs, but I'm not sure.

00:19:22.000 They could be Muslims.

00:19:25.000 But, I mean, this is, this is, he is now the really colorful turban bearer.

00:19:30.000 I've never seen turbans those colors before.

00:19:31.000 Those are maybe they're, maybe they're celebrated the alphabet people as well.

00:19:38.000 So here, here's, here's the thing, though.

00:19:40.000 Is there any daylight between the communists and the DSA and the Democrat Party anymore?

00:19:48.000 Kathy Hochul's quote was: elect Zoron and take back America.

00:19:52.000 Again, you hear them say this in the context of a rally.

00:19:55.000 Like, yeah, people just say stuff.

00:19:56.000 But if you read these quotes, these are truly threatening.

00:19:59.000 They're threatening.

00:20:01.000 Taking back America, how could this person who just got here a few years ago and is a Ugandan Muslim immigrant, how is he going to take back New York City? 1.00

00:20:09.000 That is a truly disturbing concept.

00:20:12.000 And all the Democrats are falling in line because he's the only one with any energy.

00:20:15.000 They're so low energy that they basically have no choice but to follow AOC, which is what they're following into the shutdown.

00:20:22.000 I mean, the shutdown is 100% about Chuck Schumer is afraid of AOC to keep his job.

00:20:26.000 That's what it's about.

00:20:27.000 There's nothing else to it.

00:20:28.000 It's just that.

00:20:29.000 And then you've got all of these old whites who are going to be following Mamdani and AOC. 0.98

00:20:33.000 And of course, Bernie, the oldest of the whites, who just turned 130 this week.

00:20:37.000 So happy birthday to Bernie.

00:20:38.000 They have zero self-confidence, by the way.

00:20:41.000 And this white guilt is so pervasive on the left.

00:20:44.000 The American right has largely thrown this off because it is deserving of being thrown off.

00:20:49.000 But the American left, if you are a white liberal, you completely endorse this concept that you have something to appease.

00:20:57.000 You have amends to make with minority groups.

00:21:01.000 But by the way, like we're not that far away where whites are going to be just another minority.

00:21:06.000 I mean, this is how radically the demographics have shifted, even in just my lifetime.

00:21:11.000 But this is what's fascinating.

00:21:12.000 I thought this was a really interesting look, Alex, into the psychology of the American left.

00:21:18.000 Because AOC starts giving this screeching spiel and saying, you know, this city was built by the Irish and the Italians and the Jews and the blacks and the Latinos and the Native people.

00:21:29.000 It is literally line by line by line in essentially ascending order of the oppression Olympics.

00:21:38.000 This is how she does it. 0.99

00:21:39.000 But she divides everybody by their ethnicity.

00:21:41.000 Gone is this concept that we are one people, united by our patriotism, our devotion to country, our love of neighbor.

00:21:49.000 It is simply like grievance group versus grievance group.

00:21:53.000 And here we go.

00:21:54.000 I'll just, in AOC's own words, 96.

00:21:57.000 This city was built by the Irish escaping famine.

00:22:02.000 Italians fleeing fascism.

00:22:04.000 Jews escaping Holocaust.

00:22:06.000 Black Americans fleeing slavery and Jim Crow.

00:22:10.000 Latinos seeking a better life.

00:22:14.000 Native people standing for themselves. 0.54

00:22:17.000 Asian Americans coming together in Queens, in Brooklyn, in the Bronx, in Manhattan, in Staten Island in this country in a vision to build the freest, toughest, and greatest city on earth.

00:22:36.000 I will give her credit.

00:22:37.000 I will give her credit.

00:22:38.000 There is a very tall building in downtown Manhattan that was only built because of Muslims. 1.00

00:22:45.000 Really tall one.

00:22:46.000 Might be the tallest one.

00:22:48.000 No, it is.

00:22:49.000 That was good.

00:22:50.000 That was good, Blake.

00:22:51.000 If you do a laundry list of which grievance group built New York, Muslims are not a part of it, which is funny because you wouldn't even think of it.

00:22:58.000 Like, we would never think of this.

00:23:00.000 We're prepping for a show like this unless they bring it up and they act like the Muslims were a big part of it, which they weren't. 0.99

00:23:06.000 And then just going through this laundry list of here are all the various groups.

00:23:09.000 Let's just keep subdividing, subdividing, subdividing.

00:23:11.000 It's this really coastal, elite, old school liberal thought, which is not modern.

00:23:15.000 It's not converting anyone.

00:23:17.000 There's no one who's just hearing this for the first time and thinking, that's brilliant.

00:23:20.000 These are really stale ideas that she's actually putting out there.

00:23:23.000 And it's interesting because he's so much more talented than she is.

00:23:26.000 And she's sort of the number two biggest leader in the party.

00:23:29.000 And he's just leaps and bounds more talented than she is. 0.94

00:23:31.000 She sounds so shrill, so screechy.

00:23:33.000 And think about how the party, both leaders of the party, live within, you know, a driver and a five-iron from each other.

00:23:40.000 Hakeem Jeffries and Chuck Schumer.

00:23:42.000 It's just a coastal elite party.

00:23:43.000 They're completely out of touch with normal Americans.

00:23:46.000 And if any normal American hears a clip like that, they're not going to go, oh, I trust these people.

00:23:50.000 But so they're probably going to take back New York.

00:23:53.000 But then what happens next?

00:23:55.000 This is the big question, right?

00:23:56.000 So, so what you're, you rightly identified the cause of the shutdown.

00:24:00.000 It's Chuck Schumer is terrified that AOC is nipping at his heels and that she has the energy of the activist base of the Democrat Party, which is now really the Communist Party.

00:24:11.000 And for a moment, there, after November 2024, we asked the question: what is going to happen to the Democrat Party?

00:24:17.000 Are they going to moderate, go to the middle, or are they going to go the way of AOC, Jasmine Crockett, Ilhan Omar, Zorhan Mamdani?

00:24:26.000 We now have the answer.

00:24:27.000 We now have the answer.

00:24:27.000 Yeah.

00:24:29.000 The last holdouts were Kathy Holkul and Hakeem Jeffries.

00:24:32.000 And what that is, is actually sort of the vestiges of the old school Democrat Party that was like, hey, we like capitalism, but we just like more distribution of your money.

00:24:43.000 We're going to tax you higher and distribute more because government's the answer.

00:24:45.000 But we still like capitalism.

00:24:47.000 And now we're getting into this new iteration where because the old dogs have basically folded like a cheap suit, there is no uniting figure like an Obama or a Clinton that can hold together a centrist coalition.

00:25:00.000 And so the powers that be within the American left have completely capitulated.

00:25:07.000 It's almost like the Germans coming into France, and it's just like, you know, the country just folded really quick. 0.76

00:25:12.000 And France is the old school Democrats here. 0.83

00:25:15.000 And the Germans are going, wow, we took that really easy. 0.93

00:25:17.000 Zorom and AOC are going, wow, that was really easy to take this down.

00:25:20.000 I think a good symbolism of that is that the Democratic primary in New York, the top candidates were Zoran, and then they were running Andrew Cuomo, who was not the most popular Democrat before and then had to leave office in disgrace.

00:25:34.000 Over, you know, you can debate the merits of it, but he basically was a has-been Democrat who's making a comeback where the argument was like he's corrupt but gets things done.

00:25:45.000 Yeah.

00:25:46.000 Sort of this is such an underrated part of the story: is that the only alternative offered to us was Cuomo.

00:25:52.000 And so Sliwa.

00:25:54.000 Okay, but did Sliwa drop the hat? 1.00

00:25:56.000 Did Sleewa drop the hat?

00:25:57.000 Because he was never going to have a chance with that hat.

00:25:59.000 Did he drop the hat?

00:26:00.000 Yeah, I haven't seen it as well.

00:26:01.000 So he's not.

00:26:01.000 Okay, good.

00:26:01.000 All right.

00:26:02.000 No, I mean, listen, here's the thing.

00:26:03.000 Like a lot of people, there's a big debate online.

00:26:05.000 Well, you know, Cuomo has given us no excuse for Republicans to vote for him.

00:26:11.000 And I get that.

00:26:11.000 Yeah.

00:26:12.000 And, you know, Cernovich, who I greatly respect, is saying, you know, Sliwa shouldn't drop out.

00:26:17.000 Cuomo should drop out and they should all vote for Sliwa. 1.00

00:26:19.000 I don't care which direction it goes, but I mean, to be fair, this is a Democrat city.

00:26:23.000 So if you actually want to have a chance to beat Zorhan Mamdani with all the normal people coming out to the polls, it does make some sense that it should go to the Democrat, right?

00:26:33.000 And we all understand that Sliwa basically has no.

00:26:37.000 I don't say it should make sense to go to the Democrat.

00:26:39.000 I would say it is understandable looking at the polls to say Sliwa, even if it's a problem, is in a distant third.

00:26:47.000 And if he were to drop out and people voted Cuomo, we could avert a really nasty disaster for New York City.

00:26:54.000 And, you know, Charlie and I would talk about this: that we do not abandon our cities.

00:26:59.000 We do not say, oh, they just deserve this, you know, every bad thing that happens.

00:27:03.000 Hey, man, as a resident in California, I can say that the right absolutely does abandon parts of the country.

00:27:08.000 We've been totally abandoned for many years out there.

00:27:11.000 And so it's interesting for me to watch this.

00:27:13.000 And even then, true heroism is sometimes you actually have to step up and try to save people who are not great and don't want to be saved.

00:27:19.000 And maybe that's what's going to happen.

00:27:21.000 And if New York does choose this, they will get what they voted for.

00:27:25.000 Very emphatically.

00:27:27.000 It's not going to be pretty.

00:27:30.000 This is Lane Schoenberger, chief investment officer and founding partner of YReFi.

00:27:35.000 It has been an honor and a privilege to partner with Turning Point and for Charlie to endorse us.

00:27:40.000 His endorsement means the world to us, and we look forward to continuing our partnership with Turning Point for years to come.

00:27:47.000 Now, here Charlie, in his own words, tell you about why ReFi.

00:27:50.000 I'm going to tell you guys about whyrefi.com.

00:27:52.000 That is why F.Y.com.

00:27:54.000 WhyReFi is incredible.

00:27:56.000 Private student loan debt in America totals about $300 billion.

00:27:59.000 WhyReFi is refinancing distress or defaulted private student loans?

00:28:03.000 You can finally take control of your student loan situation with a plan that works for your monthly budget.

00:28:07.000 Go to whyrefi.com.

00:28:09.000 That is whyrefi.com.

00:28:10.000 Do you have a co-borrower?

00:28:11.000 WhyReFi can get them released from the loan?

00:28:14.000 You're going to skip a payment up to 12 times without penalty.

00:28:16.000 It may not be available in all 50 states.

00:28:18.000 Go to whyrefi.com.

00:28:20.000 That is why FY.com.

00:28:22.000 Let's face it, if you have distress or defaulted student loans, it can be overwhelming.

00:28:26.000 Because of private student loan debt, so many people feel stuck.

00:28:30.000 Go to yrefi.com.

00:28:31.000 That is why.com.

00:28:34.000 Private student loan debt relief, yrefi.com.

00:28:39.000 So this is an interesting question.

00:28:40.000 This is for you, Alex, I think.

00:28:42.000 So we're getting these a lot of emails at freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:28:46.000 I want to read some of this.

00:28:47.000 So Kathy says, how does Newsom fit in?

00:28:49.000 Wondering how Newsom will fit in with this new Marxist movement led by AOC and Mamdani. 0.88

00:28:54.000 Yeah, he's a political lizard.

00:28:55.000 He just does whatever he thinks will get him the most attention.

00:28:58.000 Just track the podcast.

00:29:00.000 Okay.

00:29:00.000 So he starts the podcast and he has Charlie on.

00:29:03.000 It's a sensation.

00:29:04.000 It was a fantastic conversation, viral.

00:29:07.000 Clips are going everywhere.

00:29:08.000 It blows up his brand.

00:29:09.000 And he sounds reasonable, 75% of the conversation.

00:29:13.000 And his stock is hot, but it's not.

00:29:16.000 Because if he's trying to win a Democrat primary, he's going in the wrong direction.

00:29:19.000 He picked the wrong direction.

00:29:21.000 He picked the wrong direction.

00:29:22.000 So he did Michael Savage.

00:29:23.000 These are interesting conversations with conservatives.

00:29:23.000 He does Bannon.

00:29:26.000 And his polls are going down in a Democrat primary.

00:29:29.000 People like me are going, oh, he's so much more interesting now.

00:29:31.000 Like now I actually can find him actually listenable.

00:29:34.000 No, that's not what he needs to do.

00:29:35.000 In order to win a Democrat primary, he needs to adopt fake accents.

00:29:39.000 He needs to act like he was a poor guy, even though his dad was the general counsel for Getty Oil.

00:29:44.000 Yeah, do it.

00:29:46.000 We should show that.

00:29:47.000 Cut 57.

00:29:49.000 Macaroni and cheese.

00:29:52.000 Are you talking about me?

00:29:53.000 Yo, YG.

00:29:54.000 YG, man.

00:29:55.000 Every day, every day in the backyard, just bouncing the basketball, throwing the ball against the wall until the ball is just like frame, man.

00:30:02.000 And it just saved me and it got me into college.

00:30:05.000 So she's hustling.

00:30:06.000 Well, it turns out, if you throw up this image, there's an image of him and his buddies.

00:30:12.000 Looks like it's probably from the 80s.

00:30:13.000 And it says, Gavin Newsom with Paul Mohan, Andrew Getty, and Bill Getty posing for a Children of the Rich feature that ran in the San Francisco Chronicle.

00:30:23.000 Oh, because it's December 12, 1991.

00:30:25.000 So Children of the Rich, and he's just here.

00:30:27.000 Gavin's just like, oh, you know, man, I just had to hustle.

00:30:30.000 I had to go get some, shoot some hoops, man.

00:30:33.000 He's getting oil money. 1.00

00:30:33.000 Eat that crap. 1.00

00:30:34.000 It's one of the richest companies in the history of the country. 1.00

00:30:36.000 And his dad was a top attorney for it.

00:30:39.000 And everyone knows this about him because he's a known commodity.

00:30:42.000 He owns a winery.

00:30:43.000 He eats at French laundry.

00:30:44.000 Here he is just trying to be just popular.

00:30:47.000 He doesn't care because he's not a true leader.

00:30:49.000 And that's what's interesting.

00:30:50.000 They have a huge dearth of leaders in their party.

00:30:53.000 There is no Bill Clinton or Obama.

00:30:54.000 All right, Blake, while you were gone, Trump destroyed a historical monument at the White House.

00:31:01.000 So, yeah, I was out for two weeks, basically.

00:31:04.000 And I come back to discover the number one issue in America, apparently, is Trump redecorating the White House.

00:31:10.000 Like, people are freaking out so much about this.

00:31:13.000 You'd think the East Wing of the White House, like, Democrats are freaking out so bad.

00:31:17.000 You'd think the East Wing of the White House was like a five-time felon who, you know, died or something because it's just apocalyptic.

00:31:26.000 I've been seeing people are tweeting.

00:31:28.000 They clearly think that he destroyed half of the actual White House.

00:31:33.000 There was a tweet where someone was just in one of the rooms of the normal White House.

00:31:36.000 They're like, my wife and I in the East Wing can't believe it's gone.

00:31:40.000 And then there was some article that was like, they were saying the East Wing has been called the heart of America.

00:31:48.000 I have lived in America for 35 years and I have never once in my life heard the East Wing called anything at all other than the less famous wing of the White House.

00:31:59.000 No, it literally was built after World War II, which, by the way, it was to cover up a World War II bunker that had been built there for safety during the war.

00:32:07.000 And it was, you know, which is the era from like arguably between the 60s and 70s and the 50s, though, where most of the terrible architecture in the United States is.

00:32:16.000 No, it's not even about that.

00:32:17.000 It's not even about that.

00:32:18.000 It's just, it's not the White House.

00:32:20.000 It's not the West Wing.

00:32:21.000 It's not the Eisenhower building.

00:32:22.000 And it's also not good enough.

00:32:24.000 You see all this all over.

00:32:25.000 They're saying...

00:32:26.000 Well, yeah, like we have to have, we have to set up, you know, tents and portable bodies to have diplomatic dinners because we don't have a big enough facility to do it in the United States of America.

00:32:35.000 Isn't this the point?

00:32:37.000 There's so many points to be made, and we should make all of them.

00:32:39.000 But isn't the point that this is a new, new-ish part of the building, and it was built for staffers after World War II. 0.84

00:32:45.000 And we're going to replace it by the greatest builder to ever be president, regardless of what you think of his politics, a guy who's so qualified to do this, it's ridiculous.

00:32:53.000 And he's going to build a ballroom so that we can host state dinners.

00:32:56.000 We can host leaders from all around the world.

00:32:59.000 The big shots of the all big shots can come and congregate in this building.

00:33:02.000 And not just for his presidency, for future presidencies.

00:33:05.000 And this is the thing that kind of blows my mind with Democrats: I think they missed a concession layup here.

00:33:09.000 I think they come in, they have one of these Bomb Dami rallies with AOC and Schumer, and they come in and they say, Thank you for building us a new ballroom, Trump.

00:33:17.000 We're going to win back the White House.

00:33:19.000 We're never going to give it back.

00:33:20.000 And we're going to throw party after party in the ballroom you built us.

00:33:23.000 Thanks a lot.

00:33:24.000 But they're not that funny.

00:33:25.000 They don't have any vibes anymore.

00:33:26.000 They just act like this is Watergate number three.

00:33:29.000 So I think that's really funny.

00:33:32.000 And they should have done that, but they're not as smart as you, Alex.

00:33:34.000 So, but this is another viral trend that's going on.

00:33:37.000 People mocking the left's faux outrage about the East Wing of the White House.

00:33:42.000 So this was from Tom Coliccio.

00:33:45.000 Said, my wife and I in the East Wing, I can't believe it is gone.

00:33:50.000 And so throw this image up.

00:33:52.000 I think we should.

00:33:53.000 Is it the chef?

00:33:54.000 Yeah, it's.

00:33:55.000 And then what happens is the right online just starts trolling it.

00:34:00.000 So this is Tony Kinnett.

00:34:02.000 I'll never forget watching the Medal of Honor ceremony for Commander Miranda Keys in the East Wing now because of Trump.

00:34:10.000 It is gone forever.

00:34:11.000 And then there's Chef Gruel got it, or Jack actually got a good one, his favorite pizza hut.

00:34:16.000 He goes, I took this iconic photo of the East Wing of the White House many years ago.

00:34:21.000 I can't believe it's gone.

00:34:22.000 No Kings.

00:34:23.000 And then Chef Gruel says this, what is this from?

00:34:27.000 What is this?

00:34:29.000 I don't know.

00:34:30.000 I took this iconic photo of the East Wing of the White House many years ago.

00:34:34.000 I can't believe it's gone.

00:34:35.000 No Kings.

00:34:36.000 So everybody's just trolling.

00:34:37.000 And actually, what Trump wants to build, put this B-roll up of this beautiful new ballroom.

00:34:43.000 And here's what we can't forget: that this just makes every sense in the world practically and pragmatically.

00:34:48.000 Presidents have been wanting an event space for these diplomatic dinners, these fine dining experiences at the White House for years.

00:34:56.000 Instead, they've spent millions of dollars on tents, port-a-potties, all this stuff.

00:35:00.000 If Trump goes off campus somewhere else, that's millions of dollars annually just in expenses for security and movement and transportation.

00:35:09.000 Secret Service has to plan this out in advance.

00:35:11.000 Well, I mean, we're talking thousands of people get mobilized anytime there's a movement of the press.

00:35:16.000 You know, another great thing about this that makes this funnier.

00:35:18.000 There's been this whole movement on the left, people may or may not have heard of.

00:35:21.000 They call it abundance.

00:35:22.000 It's like Ezra Klein.

00:35:23.000 It's sort of the old Obama people where they see, oh, wow, you know, America's not building anything anymore.

00:35:28.000 We can't get infrastructure.

00:35:29.000 We can't get trains.

00:35:30.000 We can't get roads.

00:35:31.000 We can't get buildings.

00:35:32.000 And so they're trying to say, like, the left, the center left, we can do this.

00:35:35.000 They call it abundance.

00:35:36.000 And their idea is we'll get rid of regulations and zoning and we'll be able to build stuff again.

00:35:40.000 And so Trump is basically doing the most abundance-coded thing possible.

00:35:45.000 He says, We need this thing.

00:35:46.000 We're going to build it.

00:35:46.000 And we're going to do it fast.

00:35:47.000 We're just going to bam, building's gone.

00:35:49.000 We're going to get this new building up within a year or two, you know, unfathomably quickly for America where it takes 18 years to do anything.

00:35:56.000 And they're losing their absence.

00:35:57.000 They're absolutely losing their minds.

00:35:58.000 Well, but here's the other thing that's funny: the left, I thought, was all about progress out with the old, in with the new.

00:36:03.000 But here, all of a sudden, they're clutching their pearls.

00:36:05.000 They're so upset that something 50, 60, 70 years old has now been renovated.

00:36:10.000 We're doing a big history on this today at Breitbart News, and so people can see all the photos.

00:36:14.000 Every renovation is met with criticism.

00:36:16.000 It's usually political, but the White House has never been frozen in time.

00:36:20.000 It's always been, they've always complained about wasting money.

00:36:23.000 We're not wasting money.

00:36:28.000 For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to CharlieKirk.com.

The Charlie Kirk Show - October 27, 2025

Muslims, The Real Victims of 9-11?

Episode Stats

Summary

Transcript