My Viral Sitdown with Tucker Carlson. This is probably one of the most important conversations I've ever had with a young person, presenting where the younger generation is and what we need to do about it. We talk about Russia Gate, debt, immigration, BNPL, Gen Z, and much more.
00:00:09.000We talk about debt, we talk about mass immigration, talk about amnesty, we talk about BNPL, we talk about Gen Z. It's probably one of the most important conversations I've had to date, presenting where the younger generation is and what we need to do about it.
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00:02:12.000This conversation is going viral for a reason.
00:02:15.000We talk about Gen Z. We talk about Russia Gate.
00:02:17.000So I'm going to kind of usher you through this entire conversation and give you some intros throughout all of it, just some extra thoughts, things to add on top of that conversation.
00:02:27.000But first, make sure you guys subscribe to our YouTube channel, hit the bell, go in the comments and leave your comments and your feedback to this conversation.
00:02:35.000And text this episode to your friends for the annotated version of my viral conversation with Tucker Carlson.
00:02:41.000We begin in kind of a funny, comical way where Tucker comes right out of the gate and we talk about Russia Gate.
00:02:48.000Honestly, can we get three cheers for Tulsi Gabbard?
00:02:50.000Tulsi Gabbard is doing a phenomenal job.
00:02:53.000She is really serving the president wonderfully and getting to the bottom of what happened in the 2020 election.
00:03:00.000We start right out of the gate of RussiaGate.
00:03:02.000Are we finally going to be able to get to the bottom of this?
00:03:05.000And will people like Barack Obama finally be able to go to jail?
00:03:09.000So it looks like we're finally going to get the details of RussiaGate.
00:03:24.000All of a sudden out of nowhere, we all hate Russia and Trump is a Russian agent, something that no one had ever said before.
00:03:30.000And then it just saturated the media and it was the only topic for a couple years.
00:03:35.000And no one ever kind of went back to examine like how?
00:03:40.000How do you create a story out of nothing and then convince Wall Street Journal, Washington Post, New York Times to write about it every day?
00:04:31.000Yes, I would go even a step further because the war right now happening between Russia, Ukraine, and the West's support of it actually was an extension of Russia Gate.
00:04:41.000Because part of one of the unintended consequences of Russia Gate, unintended, I think actually intended, but unintended from our perspective, because we were so focused on the Trump component, was how it was desensitizing the Democrat Party to hate Russia.
00:04:54.000If you think about it, Donald Trump was the worst villain ever in the history of the world, according to the Democrat Party.
00:05:00.000So they needed to have an explanation as to how this guy won.
00:05:04.000Because of course, it can't be the fact that they de-industrialized Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania, flooded the country with a bunch of illegals and allowed opioids into the country.
00:05:36.000And Tulsi is getting to the bottom of it.
00:05:38.000And I'm not going to pretend to know all the details of what she's working on.
00:05:40.000And I've been cheering her on, sending her text messages saying, you go, Tulsi, you go, because it's so wrong what happened to President Trump and so wrong what happened to our country.
00:06:02.000And if you hate Trump, you therefore must also hate Putin and Russia.
00:06:06.000So fast forward to Putin's invasion of Ukraine, you had the entire Democrat Party and the base of the Democrat Party that used to be anti-war, that used to be where the Ben and Jerry's guy was.
00:06:19.000But the rank and file kind of had a subdued response at best to the financing of the Russian-Ukrainian war, largely because of Russiagate, because so many base Members of the Democrat Party and the activists were led to believe that Donald Trump only became president because of the assistance of the Kremlin.
00:06:54.000And if you, I mean, you know this, you helped lead the, I don't want to say even anti-war, just the skepticism from the West viewpoint that why are we sending all this money to Ukraine?
00:07:16.000Is it because they started to love war?
00:07:19.000No, it's because Putin became an acceptable villain for the Democrat Party, because they made the archetype of villain and the archetype of Putin and Trump to be kind of one and the same.
00:07:32.000It goes back to the lie of the dirty dossier.
00:07:36.000It goes back to how our intel agencies were then used inwardly against us.
00:07:41.000And that has really been the story the last 30 to 40 years.
00:07:44.000And you deserve a lot of credit for covering this, which is our Intel services are supposed to gather intelligence and defend the homeland and to keep us domestically safe.
00:07:52.000But it turns out they're actually more about picking winners and losers in American elections and to thwart the will of popular sovereignty.
00:08:01.000So I hope that we get to the bottom of this because we are still dealing with the real world ramifications.
00:08:07.000You have to wonder how many Ukrainians and Russians, by the way, because people are dying on both sides of this war that are made in the image of God, are unnecessarily dead because of what our intel services did in 2016 and 2017.
00:08:20.000I don't think that can be said enough.
00:08:21.000Thank you for saying it again, that our position, I would say the war itself.
00:08:25.000I mean, I think the Biden administration provoked Russia into it by declaring that Ukraine was being part of NATO.
00:08:35.000But even if you don't buy that, we seamlessly moved from no war with Russia into an actual war with Russia, and very few people said anything about it.
00:08:45.000And I think the reason they didn't is because they had just spent the last three years hearing about how Putin was the worst person in the world.
00:09:13.000And basically what we learned last week, for everyone that was hopefully enjoying your summer, not glued to your phone, you know, nonstop over the weekend, we learned that Obama personally ordered an Intel report.
00:09:23.000It's like, hey, was it true that Russia was behind this election?
00:09:27.000And from my understanding, the report said no, Russia was not behind this election, did not manipulate votes.
00:09:31.000Trump was not elected because of Russia.
00:09:33.000This was in December of 2016 in a private classified Intel briefing.
00:09:38.000That is now declassified thanks to Director of National Intelligence, Tulsi Gabbard.
00:09:43.000What is even more chilling, though, which goes back to Peter Strzok and Lisa Page and James Comey, is how the FBI and the CIA seem to be working on the same page.
00:09:51.000The FBI was almost doing the domestic bidding of the CIA.
00:09:55.000And you have to wonder how much of this RussiaGate situation was the insurance policy that Peter Strzzok famously put in his text messages.
00:10:02.000Remember, he was going back and forth with his lover, Lisa Page, where he was saying, hey, don't worry, we have an insurance policy.
00:10:11.000You have to wonder what exactly was that.
00:10:14.000And my contention is that that was the Russiagate situation, that they had this dossier paid for by the Democrat Party with Clinton funds to then illegally be able to spy on the Trump campaign as an extension of that, create this entire narrative.
00:10:29.000And, you know, part of what also needs to be said is how much of Trump won was stolen from President Trump and the mandate of the people because of Russia.
00:11:02.000Let me just say that, whatever you think of what Sessions did or why he did it or whatever, I'm probably the only person willing to give him credit for, you know, a good faith mistake.
00:12:11.000We're learning kind of how the modern technocratic Democrat Party works, which is bring an old guy with an amazing biography by DC standards.
00:12:22.000And then all of these 30-something lawyers that went to Yale and Harvard will do all the work.
00:12:25.000It's kind of how a technocratic state works.
00:12:27.000But anyway, think about where we were in Trump one, which I think is really important and how we're in a profoundly better position we are today.
00:12:34.000The first year of the Trump presidency and then year two or three were largely stolen by this whole Russia gate situation is that President Trump was constantly on defense.
00:12:44.000He was constantly having to defend himself.
00:12:45.000He had Mueller looking into Manafort, looking into Cohen, looking into all of his close associates, which of course the report came out and showed no collusion and all stemming from a lie.
00:12:58.000So to answer your question, I hope People start to go to jail.
00:13:01.000We need perp walks, we need handcuffs, we need mass arrests because you're not allowed to steal precious time of a presidency away from the American people that otherwise would have been spent on governing.
00:13:23.000That's what Tucker and I talk about next.
00:13:25.000It is now the fight against the intel agencies.
00:13:27.000All roads lead to the CIA and the Intel agencies.
00:13:30.000And it really comes down to this question of who is in charge of this nation.
00:13:35.000Now, mind you, I did not come into this interview prepared to talk about this, but as a talk show host and a radio guy, I can talk about it almost anything at any time.
00:13:42.000And so we talked about this question of what is the fourth branch of government and who's really in charge?
00:13:47.000I also think it's just important to know that federal intel and law enforcement agencies are not allowed to form their own separate, unaccountable government and run affairs of state.
00:13:57.000That's a nightmare scenario that puts you in a dictatorship, totally insulated from the public.
00:14:03.000I mean, voters have no way to control that.
00:14:23.000And I think we're now going to get massive action in that direction from hopefully Cash and Dan and Pam Bondi and Todd Blanche, the whole gang.
00:15:23.000There are, and I don't want to put you in a comfortable situation.
00:15:25.000You don't need to comment on this, just brief aside, but we actually have civilian control, the control of elected leaders over those agencies, the president, of course, but also members of Congress.
00:16:27.000There are whispers that this next bill is going to be passed, whatever perfunctory bill they have to pass, is going to try to neuter DNI, is that they want to try to wall off Liberty Crossing.
00:16:39.000It wants Tulsi Gabbard, Joe Kent, and the other people, the Director of African Intelligence and that whole apparatus.
00:16:59.000And so, again, I don't know all the details of this.
00:17:01.000I just, someone texted me yesterday and they said, hey, we have to make sure that Tulsi does not get basically, you know, neutered in this whole process that it just kind of becomes a ceremonial.
00:17:11.000She's the one person you shouldn't doge.
00:17:13.000No, in fact, Tulsi, and this is very important.
00:17:15.000The Intel agencies by far have the least proportional civilian control versus careers.
00:17:42.000And I know the president cares about it personally as he should, because how much of his life and his energy was just spent defending against a fabrication, not a fabrication of the Chinese Communist Party, by the way, not a fabrication of our adversaries, a fabrication of our own government.
00:17:58.000That's what makes this so sinister, is that our own government was turned against the duly elected president.
00:18:04.000So here we are now in the year of our Lord 2025.
00:18:07.000Who's running the United States government?
00:18:20.000And if we do not smash the administrative state and the deep state in the coming six to 12 months, then we're actually not going to, we're not going to bring this entire intelligence apparatus to heal.
00:18:32.000We have to lance the boil because it's gone so out of control.
00:18:35.000And I can tell you, they are deeply fearful of this movement.
00:18:41.000They know that we are noticing things, that we're seeing patterns, that we know how powerful the intelligent agencies have become.
00:18:47.000And so that's why I think Russia Gate really matters, is that it's a way to hold them accountable to see how dark and honestly demonic their activities have become.
00:18:57.000And hopefully an opportunity to fulfill a mandate that President Trump ran on and I still know believes to this day, which is to bring the deep state to hopefully smash it or at the very least bring it back into balance.
00:19:09.000Now, in this part of the conversation, I dive deeper into the question of what really is the deep state?
00:19:24.000We dive deep into this, Tucker and I, and we examine this from all angles.
00:19:29.000And we Make a pretty good argument that if we do not assail the deep state, bring it to heel, lance the boil, then we are not going to have a country.
00:19:38.000President Donald Trump has pledged to reign in the deep state.
00:20:21.000So the intel agencies in its, you know, in its inherited composition from Joe Biden and how it's been for the last 40 years, leaking and delaying, they're like, that's child's play.
00:20:55.000God bless the people that want to do that.
00:20:58.000But if we do not focus the energy of this movement on the administrative state, then we are going to have elections in name only.
00:21:06.000And I know the president understands this because he lived through a thwarted first term largely because of the intel agencies and what we would like to call the shadow government.
00:21:17.000Trump is 97 charges against him all in?
00:23:14.000Things that I can't get to answers on will drive me endlessly insane.
00:23:19.000So I want one day to find out what happened on July 13th because by only the grace of God and by a millimeter is Trump alive and is Trump president.
00:23:29.000If you can murder presidential candidates, it's not a democracy, obviously.
00:23:42.000And then it was two days before the Republican National Convention.
00:23:46.000Again, if you were to kind of go in a dark place, which again, this is all speculation, it felt like, well, this is our last chance before he's the nominee.
00:23:54.000Because you know what happens once you're the nominee, you get secret service protection.
00:23:58.000And this is an unknown element of this.
00:24:00.000Literally, as soon as you get to become the nomination, bylaws of secret service, whatever, you get equal presidential protection.
00:24:08.000So he had a bunch of like DHS hangovers, you know, no offense to the people that were protecting him on the day of Butler, some of which did a great job, some of which are not people I would necessarily, you know, go to war with.
00:24:20.000Just, you know, more, more of the TSA agent mold than the secret service agent mold.
00:24:24.000And again, that's not a criticism of them.
00:24:26.000So if you want to get like really dark and go in that direction, you have to ask those questions.
00:24:29.000But I try not to focus too much on Butler because I think it actually leads you in a place where you ask more questions and we have answers.
00:24:41.000I'm excited to tell you that I'll be speaking at the Culture and Christianity Conference at World Outreach Church just south of Nashville, Tennessee, this September.
00:24:51.000My friend, Pastor Alan Jackson, organized this conference so we can address the issues we're facing in today's culture, but through the lens of God's truth.
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00:25:57.000I wanted to bring something to this conversation with Tucker Carlson that was new, that was not yet covered.
00:26:02.000Something that is important to the next generation, but has not getting the attention it deserves.
00:26:08.000I talk about the issues that Generation Z actually cares about: economics, home ownership, and owning things.
00:26:16.000You see, the globalists want you to own nothing and to be happy.
00:26:20.000I make the argument that if you own nothing, you get radical politics and you get very unhappy people.
00:26:26.000So you are, I think, well, you are, more in touch with young voters than any other single person in American politics, certainly on the Republican side.
00:26:37.000You're way more effective than the RNC, though I think they have a bigger budget than you.
00:26:57.000And you deal with them and you wait into the crowd and you go to college campuses and you debate people and you have a tactile sense, I think, of what younger voters care about.
00:27:07.000And so I'll just ask you the obvious question.
00:28:13.000Zoran Mamdani, the Muslim communist that is running for mayor in New York City, who obviously there's a whole rabbit hole we can go down there.
00:28:24.000He just looks kind of be like central casting and his ideas are terrible.
00:28:28.000He wants the city to run the grocery stores, all that.
00:28:30.000But I think everyone's kind of, not everyone, but most people are missing the point of really what this is.
00:28:35.000This is yet another distress signal by young people to say, hey, if you're not going to fix our life economically, we're going to get very radical politically.
00:28:45.000President Trump won the youth vote in many states across the country, in many battleground states.
00:28:49.000Now, Tucker, 12, 13 years ago when I started Turning Point, if you would have told me that a Republican running for the presidency would be winning the youth vote in Michigan and in Arizona, I'd say, no way.
00:29:00.000It's an incomprehensible accomplishment of what President Trump was able to do.
00:29:04.000One of the reasons he was able to win younger voters and younger men, especially in big numbers, is that they were trying to get their leaders' attention.
00:29:12.000They said, hey, this guy, Donald Trump, he is pledging to go fix our economic anxiety.
00:30:05.000But we need to kind of paint this picture first because I think so many, I know this for certain.
00:30:09.000So many people in DC have no idea what I'm talking about when I bring this up to them.
00:30:13.000And secondly, a lot of people over 50 think this is a foreign concept and they think, quite honestly, this is just the complaining of young people that don't want to work.
00:30:37.000And so, and great parents, by the way, phenomenal upbringing, great values.
00:30:41.000So back when they wanted to go buy a home in their beginning income years, you know, 1970s, 1980s, home prices were on average about three times the average income in America.
00:30:52.000They are now seven times the average income in America.
00:30:56.000Rents have gone up inflation adjusted from about $900 a month to now about $1,500 a month.
00:31:14.000So when we have a picture of a first-time homebuyer, you think of, you know, kind of a toddler in one arm, a dog, you're trying to figure it out.
00:31:24.000Well, number one, I don't want to get like too Ron Paul libertarian, but the Federal Reserve pumping in cheap money post-2008 has just been a catastrophe.
00:31:33.000We have spent too much money, borrowed too much money.
00:31:37.000And the purchasing power every generation is getting weaker.
00:31:40.000So your dollar is actually going, it's going, it's going less and less as far as it has year over year.
00:31:48.000So then what is the consequence of this?
00:31:50.000So you have a generation that is renting a lot more than it's owning.
00:31:53.000So when you do not own something, why would you defend it?
00:31:58.000And so you find then political radicalization start to seep in because an entire generation is getting routinely cynical year over year as their net worth either stays at zero or goes into negative.
00:32:11.000We talk more about BNPL here, the new financial scam, and it's secretly enslaving Gen Z. If you're a young person out there, be very careful taking out this pay things in four parts type collateralization.
00:32:39.000And I think we need to talk about this forcefully and openly.
00:32:43.000Now, my question for every Republican senator and congressman watching this: if you do not know these four letters, then you are not doing your job.
00:34:24.000So it's very high risk for the quote unquote lender, but they have the late fees and the penalties make these companies eventually whole because they know they got you.
00:34:35.000And again, this is not regulated by traditional credit bureaus.
00:34:37.000So the federal government has not really weighed in on this yet.
00:34:40.000And again, you could your younger folks can affirm everything I'm saying.
00:35:49.000If you are in investment banking and you have student loan debt and that student loan certificate, you know, that credential got you to the investment bank, okay, you bet on yourself.
00:38:27.000This is like enjoy things now and pay for it later.
00:38:31.000It is a, you know what I don't like about conservatives and I am one is that it would never occur to the some of them that there are two sides to the story.
00:38:40.000It's like immediately, you know, they blame the people who are, you know, buying Coachella tickets on credit, which I get.
00:38:46.000You shouldn't buy Coachella tickets on credit or your pizza or your whole food store.
00:38:51.000But they never, it doesn't occur to them that there's another side, that the people loaning the money are taking advantage of the dumb people borrowing the money, that Both are culpable.
00:39:01.000And by the way, I think the people with more power and more wisdom are probably more culpable morally than the people who are in other words.
00:39:10.000Like, are we matter at the drug user or the drug dealer?
00:39:13.000And it's typically the dealer, but conservatives look at all economic arrangements and they never blame the dealer.
00:40:26.000You don't want to save and you don't think you should save.
00:40:28.000And you know what I hear from some of them is they say, well, why should I save when what I saw around me is that you need to get into this economy and spend, spend, spend because the savers got wrecked in 2008.
00:40:41.000Again, that's an oversimplification, but there is economic nihilism that has set in to a lot of this next generation where they're not participating in any of the upside right now, any of the upside of the last five years.
00:40:54.000In fact, they're only seeing the downside.
00:40:56.000They're seeing their apartments get smaller, their rents go up, their groceries get more expensive.
00:41:02.000Now, mind you, I think President Trump is, again, he's uniquely positioned to solve this.
00:41:06.000I think that his one big beautiful bill is going to help.
00:41:08.000And I think growth will help this and lowering interest rates.
00:41:11.000But let me just say, though, why do I say it's a race against the clock?
00:41:13.000And here's why it should concern conservatives.
00:41:16.000Because when I'm at dinner parties raising money, some of our donors are a little indifferent about this.
00:41:20.000They'll have kind of like a, hey, pull yourself up by the bootstraps attitude.
00:42:30.000They should be saying, thank you, younger voters.
00:42:32.000You voted Republican in overwhelming numbers.
00:42:34.000That's one of the reasons, again, I like Dave McCormick a ton, so I'm not throwing him into this, but younger voters helped put Dave McCormick as a U.S. senator.
00:42:40.000And I think he gets this more so than most.
00:42:42.000Donald Trump built this movement of younger voters that galvanized the nation.
00:42:47.000Again, this is the untold story of the 2024 election is how Donald Trump won the youth vote in so many parts of the country.
00:43:23.000So that's what I'm, this is where the continuum, whatever you want to call it, the spectrum, you know, whatever DC term, we're here in kind of, again, I am a market guy.
00:43:44.000And if we don't do something about this, you're going to get a Venezuelan style youth-led revolt.
00:43:51.000And I am not exaggerating because what I see right here is with this next generation, younger voters, young men in particular, they're going right.
00:44:20.000We could talk about pink collar in a second because that's super important because male unemployment is significantly higher than female unemployment.
00:44:27.000But let's put a little button in that and just revisit in a second.
00:44:29.000So if we want to prevent more Zoron Mamdanis, we want more people to own stuff.
00:44:35.000The more that we own homes, the more that you are able to own property, the more likely that people are going to embrace conservative policies and reject the more radical fringe elements of society.
00:44:47.000What is the driving force of Zoron Mamdani?
00:44:50.000The driving force of AOC and Bernie Sanders is they are capitalizing on economic resentment and bitterness.
00:44:57.000If you don't pay a mortgage, you're much more likely to go burn down a Wendy's, march in a BLM parade, become a radical environmentalist.
00:45:03.000It fills a purpose void that you have in your heart.
00:45:06.000Right now, young people, their entire lives are disordered, and it's up to us to try to reorder them.
00:45:13.000This is a very important part of the conversation that has gone significantly viral.
00:45:18.000Political radicalism needs a catalyst.
00:45:21.000Political radicalism does not come out of peace, prosperity, rising wages, stable families, church attendance, and happy people.
00:45:28.000Happy people, grateful people do not get behind Vladimir Lenin, and they certainly don't get behind Chavez or Castro.
00:45:36.000People that own nothing, that feel like their property is diminishing, they don't have property, or their dollar is diminishing in value, they start to look for alternatives.
00:45:44.000And so, the political project in front of us as conservatives should be: how do we actually de-radicalize the country in the next couple of years?
00:46:41.000And one of the reasons they voted for Trump is they said, President Trump, please reorder this economy for us because it's severely disordered.
00:46:49.000And so the Republican Party currently is focused on a lot of stuff.
00:46:54.000You have a lot of constituencies to serve, but we have participated, we being the body politic, the last 20 years, especially the last 10, in a concerted effort of intergenerational theft.
00:47:07.000And if you don't care, Mom Dani is just the beginning.
00:47:11.000So someone, you know, in the next 10 years is going to shut it down because the public doesn't want this at all.
00:48:11.000I don't want to get into that because I'm not that interested in that.
00:48:13.000What I'm interested in, though, is how Roosevelt was one of the few, we were one of the few powers to successfully manage the transition from the farms to the factories.
00:48:23.000And that's hard when you think about it.
00:48:24.000You have your entire population that is moving into cities.
00:48:28.000That transition, if done incorrectly, creates a ruling class that is untouchable.
00:48:32.000So Roosevelt was like, actually, I'm here to save capitalism.
00:49:54.000No, but I'm saying it's gotten so much worse and your explanation is so much more vivid than anything I came up with.
00:50:02.000And you have the credibility that I did not have, which is someone who's, well, doesn't have a college degree and is constantly on college campuses.
00:50:11.000I just hope they're, I hope they're listening because this is the story.
00:50:14.000This is, this is the biggest story happening that has not yet happened.
00:50:17.000And that's what I always say is that it's happening, but it hasn't yet happened on the front page.
00:50:21.000And when it does, don't be shocked when all of a sudden people are calling for a 75% wealth tax and they want a 50% tax on capital gains.
00:50:30.000And so what Roosevelt, just to complete the Roosevelt point, is that when you know what you want and you can aim towards it, you can shed yourself off the bumper sticker logic.
00:50:41.000And you can get towards something practical and prudent, real and beautiful.
00:50:46.000The best leaders in American history, the ones that are underrated, honestly, the Roosevelts and the Eisenhowers, they were non-ideological.
00:51:28.000And hilariously, it's actually the best thing for them because otherwise they're coming for their mansions and they're coming for their assets and they're coming for their companies.
00:51:38.000And I don't want to live in that country.
00:51:39.000I do not want to live in South Africa.
00:51:41.000I don't want to live in a resentment, bitterness country where I have to drive around in armored cars all the time and I can't leave my house after 10 p.m.
00:51:50.000Private student loan debt in America totals about $300 billion.
00:51:54.000WhyReFi refinances private student loan debt and they do not care what your credit score is.
00:51:59.000Many clients aren't even able to make the minimum monthly payment on their private student loans when they first contact YReFi.
00:53:30.000So if there is severe economic contraction, and of course at some point there will be, you're not going to have a civilian conservation corps.
00:53:39.000It's like because the country is inherently not united and citizens have nothing in common with each other.
00:54:28.000Because I could tell you what a colony is.
00:54:30.000A colony is a place where everyone just kind of comes and they trade stuff and you have a good time and you kind of go in your own little corner, but you have nothing in common.
00:54:37.000It is the reverse colonization of America, which is the greatest of all ironies, right?
00:54:41.000Because we tried to do the colonization thing.
00:55:17.000But when you're a nation of strangers filled with third worlders that don't really understand what this country is about and they're just here for free stuff socialism, watch out.
00:55:27.000This, again, I don't like the term emergency.
00:55:30.000I'm not challenging you on it only because I don't want to do the Greta Thunberg thing where like the sky is falling.
00:55:44.000It's a warning of things to come that if I get 10 minutes with somebody, I think I can convince them it's kind of a problem-ish.
00:55:53.000But then as a step further, it has all these other secondary problems and third and fourth tier problems, like birth rate collapse and marriage issues and young men not participating in the labor force.
00:56:07.000And then you don't have a civilization.
00:56:09.000And so I guess that's a long-winded way to say that almost every politician, when they run for office, will give some sort of euphemism, some sort of thing.
00:58:08.000Have you noticed the entire country has become more feminine?
00:58:11.000There's been a hyper-feminization of our workforce.
00:58:13.000Have you ever heard of the term pink-collar jobs?
00:58:16.000Well, we decided to no longer have blue-collar jobs, and we decided to have a pink-collar revolution.
00:58:22.000Well, the pink-collar revolution, our HR managers, communication consultants, DEI, commissars, secondary teachers, and the pink-collar revolution has made us less productive, has made us less happy, and has put women that want to play mom at work because they don't have kids at home, so they have to go treat a bunch of 23-year-old men at work like they're kids.
00:59:01.000You see, the problem with the pink collar revolution and the pink collar renaissance is it's inherently unproductive and it's hyper-feminine.
00:59:08.000It's pushing men out of the workforce and it's elevating unqualified, unhappy women.
00:59:24.000Again, sit still, do what you're told, right?
00:59:28.000Read the feminine, you know, the hyper-feminine books.
00:59:30.000But you think about what are the jobs that have had the greatest emphasis of the credentialing, you know, which basically is what college is.
00:59:37.000It's just a massive credentialing exercise.
00:59:39.000They're not the more masculine jobs that we need, which is like industrial engineering or they're HR managers.
01:00:16.000And so the entire economy, the push, the thrust the last decade has been the growth has been in what we call pink collar jobs.
01:00:26.000Jobs that men would rather sit at home and kind of just be, you know, slovenly than be caught doing because it's just so demeaning to how we as men are wired.
01:00:35.000They're not about creation or risk taking or value proposition or, you know, boundary pushing.
01:00:41.000They're kind of about, well, here are the rules and the norms and we must enforce them.
01:01:25.000Of course, but to some extent, I just noticed that living in a predominantly black city and then spending part of the year in an entirely white area that had been deindustrialized, you saw kind of similar, you saw lots of million differences.
01:01:42.000Well, there's no violence in the all-white area, for one thing, which I'm grateful for, zero violence.
01:01:47.000But you did see similar family formation patterns where as the jobs for men disappeared, people stopped getting married.
01:02:12.000Because they know intuitively at some point they're going to be pregnant and they're going to be vulnerable and they want a man to be able to defend them.
01:05:20.000So, Larry Fink, who I'm not a fan of at all, from BlackRock, he said something very interesting that no one decided in the mainstream he'd cover.
01:05:29.000He said, there's an urgent need right now for 500,000 electricians.
01:05:35.000So here's a guy, the $10 trillion man.
01:05:37.000He's one of the largest funds he controls, which by the way, he's also purchasing single-family homes, which are pricing families out of buying homes.
01:05:44.000We're going to get into that, I think, in a second, which I want to talk about.
01:05:46.000But here he's saying that there's a need for 500,000 non-college educated jobs.
01:05:51.000You're trying to tell me that we don't need more sociologists?
01:05:54.000We don't need more communication majors.
01:05:58.000Media studies or North African lesbian poetry.
01:06:01.000And so we peel back this a little bit.
01:06:04.000We realize that one of the other reasons why men are being checked out of this whole system is that parents and the whole momentum behind young men have pushed them into a feminized system when in reality, it would have been better for them to just not go to college in the first place and pursue just normal blue-collar trades, of which we have the greatest deficit in our country.
01:06:30.000But it goes, that part is all, it is very, this is not economics as much as it is social status.
01:06:50.000I was forced to work construction by my father as a child, and it totally changed my life and my outlook on everything.
01:06:57.000And I made lifelong friendships, literally lifelong.
01:06:59.000And I remember I didn't force my own kids to work construction, to be honest.
01:07:07.000Yeah, but it's almost when you destroyed the white working class, which they did on purpose because they hate them above all for some reason.
01:07:14.000When you destroy the white working class, then you have immigrants running everything at the bottom.
01:08:27.000When I worked in a kitchen in 1985, everybody in the kitchen had a criminal record, every single one.
01:08:33.000But of course, every dishwasher has been to prison for something, right?
01:08:37.000But they were all Americans and they all spoke English and you'd like take a cigarette break with them and you could like talk to them and they were part of your country and your culture.
01:08:47.000I'm with this guy, you know, he's got tattoos on his neck and he's done 15 years or something awful, but like he was recognizable as an American.
01:08:54.000I'm not going to send my kids to a kitchen now.
01:09:05.000If these young men stay lost and they came out in huge numbers to vote for President Trump and we don't give them purpose, the civilization will collapse.
01:09:13.000You cannot have a generation of young men just check out.
01:09:17.000And of course, the effort is to organize the destroy young white Christian men.
01:09:46.000Listen to how Tucker and I talk at great length about how there is an organized effort to destroy and marginalize young white Christian men.
01:09:54.000So when Biden says the number one threat are straight white men, which he said about a million times, or what are the white nationalism or Christian nationalism?
01:10:20.000I don't look at people in terms of skin color, but when they start categorizing me and the young men that show up to my events as toxic because they breathe, you force the race card.
01:10:30.000So, but the power of young white men in this country, if they were motivated and purposeful, yeah, young white men helped us win a world war and get to the moon and split the atom.
01:10:40.000You better give them weed and fentanyl and benzodiazepines and draft kings and porn just to kind of disable them so they don't rise up and eat you.
01:11:49.000However, this country is founded by Protestants because they think for themselves.
01:11:52.000And they're the legacy, you know, they're the heirs of Martin Luther who took on, you know, the ancient, the 1500-year-old church by himself.
01:11:59.000You know, they are people who believe they communicate directly with God, that their conscience is more important than federal law, and they're really hard to deal with.
01:12:08.000And so you have to destroy them first.
01:12:38.000I refuse to accept the premise that we need a bunch of H-1B workers and a bunch of foreigners.
01:12:44.000Meanwhile, the men of this country are withering away in a basement because they've been told they're toxic and terrible their entire life.
01:12:51.000And so anyway, I feel a moral obligation to fight for the young men that show up to my event.
01:12:57.000And you could tell they're battered down.
01:12:59.000I mean, they've just been so suppressed by either the HR department or the pronoun policing or the hyper-feminization of their classroom.
01:13:35.000Well, Tucker asked a very provocative question.
01:13:37.000I give the best answer I possibly can about why we should have a more balanced and prudential view of corporations and labor, capital and labor.
01:13:53.000No, you're, you're just, what you're saying is true, and that's why it's upsetting me.
01:13:57.000But I'll even say that about black people.
01:14:00.000I mean, I didn't grow up in a black neighborhood.
01:14:01.000I have a few black friends, couple of good black friends, but I'm not like the voice of black America.
01:14:07.000So it was easier for me to like blame, 100% blame black people for all the huge problems, like the overwhelming problems of black America.
01:14:16.000But now I'm like, you know, and that's some extent fair.
01:14:19.000I'm for blaming the victim sometimes, but I'm also for acknowledging that there are other forces and like economic forces really do matter as noted before.
01:14:29.000And I just think it's so interesting in the people I know and grew up around with politically, like they will never mention how this happened in the first place.
01:15:50.000I think it's a philosophical inheritance from the Rockefeller-Romney takeover of the Republican Party many years ago, well before I was born.
01:15:59.000That's my best guess, is that there was this anti-Soviet, anti-communist, anti-Marxist belief that was kind of the connective tissue of what was Reagan's rise in the 80s.
01:16:14.000And therefore, again, we exist on these ridiculous binaries at times, which is fine.
01:16:18.000Some things are binary, like sex is binary, male, female.
01:16:22.000Other things are not, which is there's a lot of steps in between like anarcho-capitalism and like oligarchy-run capitalism, which is what we have right now.
01:16:29.000We have oligarchy-run capitalism and Marxism.
01:16:33.000There's a lot of steps on the continuum from oligarchy-run capitalism to that.
01:16:38.000And so, but also we, if you look at the tax code, if you look at the whole configuration of the current system, which again, credit to President Trump for finally putting a working class tax cut, no tax on tips and no tax on overtime.
01:17:17.000But the question should be, how do we get the bottom 50% to have a little bit better life and their kids to have a much better life and their grandkids to have an even better life than that?
01:17:27.000That's the American project, is intergenerational wealth building, is that you're going to sacrifice a little bit, your kids will be better off.
01:18:00.000So, you look at all these problems, you would think, like, if you're from Mars and you're like looking at all these numbers, you would think that the country's gone through like an economic tailspin the last 15 years.
01:18:09.000Like, okay, your young people can't afford homes and they're putting groceries on credit and they're killing themselves and they're socially isolated and they're addicted to benzodiazepines and Zolof.
01:18:18.000It's obvious you guys went through like a terrible economic catastrophe.
01:18:31.000I'm excited to tell you that I'll be speaking at the Culture and Christianity Conference at World Outreach Church just south of Nashville, Tennessee, this September, and I'm inviting you to join me.
01:18:41.000My friend, Pastor Alan Jackson, organized this conference so we can address the issues we're facing in today's culture, but through the lens of God's truth.
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01:20:52.000I get negative hate mail all the time because the boomers are super protective of their generation as if I'm like attacking Presbyterians or something.
01:22:02.000He made it, it was, they're the worst.
01:22:05.000They're the ones who lecture us about the civil rights movement for 40 years as the actual supposed beneficiaries of the civil rights movement, black people, declined.
01:24:27.000And, but, or if they are to impart some wisdom, It's, you know, when I was your age, we worked two jobs and I was able to put myself through college and we worked really hard.
01:26:16.000If you look at almost every third world country where men don't feel that they are able to have economic prosperity or any romantic future, you get either revolution, gang violence, or complete disconnect.
01:26:28.000Or suicide, which is what we have, right?
01:26:30.000So it's the most suicidal generation in history.
01:26:32.000Now, I don't want to paint like a totally negative picture because there is one really good trend, and it's not because of baby boomers, and it's not because of our leaders.
01:27:07.000Something that's all of a sudden not going to all of a sudden just flip around and have some sort of, you know, transgender story hour.
01:27:14.000They are, so that's a really positive trend in the midst of all this.
01:27:18.000So that's my, my great hope is the spiritual hope that the young men that are lost.
01:27:22.000And if any young man is listening to this right now, like stop, stop watching porn, stop, you know, smoking weed, stop drinking endlessly, find yourself back to church.
01:28:00.000What I'm doing is I'm communicating to a very specific audience of people in charge that are ignoring this and they are ignoring what's coming next.
01:28:10.000And that's the whole context of this conversation.
01:28:13.000And then Tucker asked the question, will anyone be held accountable for the destruction of America's economy?
01:28:47.000I mean, the president does to his great credit.
01:28:49.000It seems obvious that everything you've said is true.
01:28:52.000And I just want to say for the ninth time, I really hope members of Congress will listen to what you're saying.
01:28:59.000I think it's the most important thing right now because we are in the last stages of what we had and we're moving towards something new.
01:29:07.000This isn't working and it's not working for the people it has to work for, which is the next generation.
01:29:12.000They're specifically the ones being hurt.
01:29:15.000And so there are going to be big, big, big changes.
01:29:17.000And people will be punished for what we're going through right now.
01:29:19.000There's no question about it, either from the right or from the left.
01:29:22.000And my concern is not preventing them from being punished.
01:29:24.000It's making sure the right people are punished.
01:29:27.000It always, it feels to me like the greatest injustice is when, you know, we've solved the crime, but we executed the wrong guy.
01:29:34.000And I just want to make certain that the predators are punished, the people taking advantage of desperate young people, the people who are, you know, getting rich from payday loans and from, you know, buy now, pay later for your pizza schemes, like those people should be crushed and not, you know, hardworking people.
01:29:54.000How do you make sure that punishment is allocated justly?
01:29:57.000Yeah, well, first, this is why the right needs to administer it because we would pursue justice where the left would probably pursue revenge.
01:30:41.000And so you connected what was happening to your family to larger economic courses.
01:30:45.000And a lot of millennials, which I'm a millennial, I'm the younger and a millennial, I'm almost Gen Z, has very similar stories as to mine, where they saw their parents have to downsize, trim vacations, cancel luxury items because of macroeconomic events.
01:31:02.000And I think it's still to this day a stand on our nation that no one went to jail for what happened in 2008.
01:31:07.000None of the bankers, none of the people were held accountable.
01:31:10.000And there's a lot that went into that.
01:31:11.000Obviously, the federal government was heavily involved, but we did the worst possible thing, which is we actually created and we codified the bad behavior by making the incumbent Wall Street banks even more powerful through Dodd-Frank.
01:31:23.000So it's harder for small and community banks to compete.
01:31:26.000And then we flooded the zone with cheap money.
01:31:27.000We went to basically zero interest rates, which then depreciated the dollar, which only hurt the next generation even more.
01:31:34.000So look, I would have liked to have seen, it's too late now, the statute of limitations is well passed, like purp walks for people that helped wreck the economy back in 2008 and 2009, because there was plenty of material there.
01:31:44.000So there's no guarantee that justice is coming.
01:31:56.000In 2008, you could have bought Apple stock for six bucks, eight bucks.
01:32:01.000Now it's like $180, $200 a share or something.
01:32:04.000I mean, asset prices have ballooned so dramatically and young people are so priced out of the entry point, let alone the completion point of the American dream, that I think you're right that there will either be, this could be two ways.
01:32:18.000This is kind of a, this will be a sloppy way to say it, but it can either be a Stormy-Bastille or Nuremberg.
01:32:25.000And Nuremberg is like orderly and at least there's some sort of like, you know, justice component.
01:32:53.000I don't think you should put a Soviet judge in charge, but I think any judge is just a man or person and you're not going to get absolute justice in this life.
01:33:11.000So another one is, I mean, again, one that we haven't even touched on is are we ever, I think Trump is actually doing a great job of this, holding these colleges accountable, but is someone going to finally have to be on the hook for the amount of student loan debt this generation has?
01:34:01.000Again, I'm not doing one of those things where I like, I ask the question rhetorically.
01:34:05.000I have guesses, the first of which is that it's so bad, they're just ignoring it.
01:34:08.000And I really think that's part of it, which is that Congress is so filled with septogenarians and octogenarians that it's so distant from their purview.
01:34:17.000They're way too concerned to send more money to Ukraine or whatever their primary priority is that kind of representing the next generation, they're like, oh, those kids will kind of sort their way out.
01:34:28.000We had it tough too, which they didn't compared to what this generation has to go through.
01:34:33.000Tucker asks, who will be the 2028 Democrat nominee?
01:34:36.000I'm not that interested in that, actually.
01:35:22.000And so what we as conservatives need to be really concerned about, a cautionary tale, is a Democrat candidate or politician that says everything I've just said, that runs on basically resentment and bitter-driven politics, you own nothing because of these people.
01:35:57.000That makes her a better puppet for a kind of fake economic populism.
01:36:02.000I mean, she's actually controlled by the banks and the neocons, but I don't know.
01:36:10.000If you had one, a candidate on the left who is even sort of genuine, just kind of like a Tim Walls who without the creepy personal life, who wasn't sending off kid toucher vibes like he is.
01:37:24.000So, but I always have wondered, like, what was the trans thing?
01:37:28.000Why, if I'm running the Democratic Party, I'm a huge donor of the party.
01:37:31.000I don't want, I may, you know, like the trans thing or whatever, but I don't want to put that at the center of my platform because that's going to turn off all the normal people.
01:38:41.000And so we on the right, we should exist to de-radicalize, to create normalcy and order and a regular America, the good America that you and I miss.
01:38:53.000And so as far as the trans stuff, look, there's a lot of theories on this.
01:38:57.000Number one, I think that there's an element of the Democrat Party that's into really creepy, weird sex stuff that's dark.
01:39:05.000There is a religious element to the trans thing, which is I take dominion over my body.
01:39:19.000Where the trans thing is, no, no, no, no, I make myself in my image.
01:39:23.000It's diametrically against every one of the teachings of Christ and of those scriptures.
01:39:28.000It's against the distinctions between what is holy and profane and what is good and evil.
01:39:33.000Child and adult are blurred in the trans thing, male and female.
01:39:37.000So I think that there's like a irresistible temptation amongst the kind of dark base of the Democrat Party, which exists, that they just had to just like hold on to this because, again, it's the snake eating itself.
01:40:16.000And if you want to be even more, if you want to be even more, I don't think we're getting one, I want to be even more provocative.
01:40:21.000One of the 613 laws of Judaism and one of the more beautiful teachings is called the year of Jubilee, which is every 50 years is debt abolition and basically the rectifying of your financial situation for the nation of Israel.
01:40:51.000Repeated all throughout the Torah, all throughout the Old and New Testament.
01:40:55.000And so now here we are in a modern context.
01:40:58.000Again, a little bit of debt is justifiable, mortgage, maybe, but when you, another one that we even touched on that is crushing people, Democrats are starting to talk about this more is medical debt.
01:41:09.000They go to the ER for just, you know, a broken leg and they have a $7,000 bill and they are just murdered by those bills for the rest of their life.
01:41:18.000And so you have medical debt, you have credit card debt, you have personal debt, you have student loan debt.
01:41:23.000Tucker has some very passionate views on healthcare.
01:42:00.000And not just like say, and I say this as a middle-aged person who's passed the age of producing life, but I think like there's something, it lacks energy.
01:42:35.000And if you can't accept that, if you're a baby boomer and you think the point of living is to go on vacation, which they do, because they're selfish and stupid, I don't know.
01:43:28.000And if you look at, yes, the prior generations had a different moral view, which was far less about getting another 15 years on your life expectancy.
01:44:58.000And so if you look at the biblical figures, they weren't like overly interested in like, you know, mastering the back nine, you know, at the Naples Country Club.
01:45:17.000Wow, Charlie, you've really, really spun me up.
01:45:19.000So how do you get this message since so we've had a conversation for an hour and a half kind of on a you know on the what I think and you clearly think is the single biggest and least addressed issue going forward, which is how are we serving the next generation?
01:45:39.000You know, one of the biggest lies being sold to American people right now is that you're in control of your money, especially when it comes to crypto.
01:45:46.000But the truth, most of these so-called crypto platforms are just banks in disguise, fully capable of freezing your assets the moment some bureaucrat makes a phone call.
01:45:54.000That is not what Bitcoin was built for.
01:46:06.000No one can touch your crypto, not the IRS or not a rogue bank, not some three-letter agency that thinks it knows better than you do.
01:46:14.000This is how it was intended by the original creators of Bitcoin, peer-to-peer money, free from centralized control, free from surveillance, and free from arbitrary seizure.
01:46:23.000So if you're serious about financial sovereignty, go to Bitcoin.com, set up your wallet, take back control, because if you don't hold the keys, you don't own your money.
01:47:45.000But part of the problem is, and we're trying to fix this at turning point action, is actually the process of how difficult and how expensive it is to get good people elected in office.
01:47:54.000We haven't figured it out, but we're working on it.
01:47:57.000So we're engaging in Republican primaries and across the country.
01:49:18.000But besides that, you know, he's a great person.
01:49:20.000But no, look, as far as how hard it is, this is why what we are doing, I think, is very exciting at turning point, but also simultaneously a threat to the Republican establishment is that we're big.
01:49:30.000We're not going anywhere, God willing.
01:49:37.000Because we're not part of this whole neocon, you know, invade the world, invite the world.
01:49:42.000And we got to talk immigration too, because that's a whole component of this because amnesty is going to try to be pushed by some people soon.
01:49:50.000We represent a generation primarily that is mad, that is angry, but we want to channel that frustration into a prudent way because, again, we don't want a revolution.
01:49:59.000So we're a threat to the established Republican order, and we kind of delight in that in more ways than one.
01:50:06.000Other one that we're really involved in is Kentucky for Mitch McConnell's empty Senate seat there, Nate Morris, who's phenomenal, who's actually running on an immigration moratorium up against kind of two of McConnell's lackeys there in the open Kentucky Senate race.
01:50:36.000We're also going to be really involved in stuff in Arizona because we got to kind of get some things sorted out there.
01:50:40.000But more importantly, is this: and this is the other structural problem.
01:50:44.000What we at Turning Point Action, specifically our political arm, seek to do is try to make Republican voters back into alignment with their elected leaders because there's a misalignment that's happening.
01:50:54.000And Trump was the one that exposed this alignment for the Rocks.
01:51:47.000By the way, before I go to that, I encourage you guys to get involved with Turning PointUSA at tpusa.com.
01:51:51.000Start a high school and college chapter today.
01:51:53.000Turning point USA is incredibly important, and we have an amazing campus tour that is coming up this September, October, and November on campuses across the country.
01:52:02.000So make sure you guys check it out, tpusa.com.
01:52:49.000She came out the other day and she is pushing an amnesty bill through Congress.
01:52:52.000I have a text from a U.S. senator that you and I both respect.
01:52:55.000And he said, look, there's whispers that are now becoming real conversations and chatter of amnesty.
01:52:59.000And think of how sick and dark this is.
01:53:01.000We passed one big beautiful bill, which is by far the greatest fortification of the southern border, the greatest deportation effort that we need.
01:53:08.000I mean, it's legit investment to get the deportations that we voted for.
01:53:12.000And that the ink is not even yet dry of President Trump's signature.
01:53:15.000And almost simultaneously, we're hearing about amnesty.
01:53:18.000And so, look, Maria Elvira-Salazar, she's saying, well, if they've been here more than five years, it's not a pathway to citizenship.
01:53:47.000All they'd have to say is cinco años, five years.
01:53:51.000And they could end all deportation in real time.
01:53:53.000So the person's been there for three years and they'd have to just say they've been there for five years, lie, go to some judge.
01:53:58.000It would take them four years to get in front of the judge and they'd hit the five-year threshold.
01:54:01.000It's effectively amnesty and a loophole workaround being pushed by Ms. Elvira Salazar.
01:54:07.000And I don't know what she's a Democrat.
01:54:09.000She's a Republican, which the whole thing doesn't make any sense.
01:54:12.000First of all, she's from a Cuban district.
01:54:13.000And why a Cuban district is so worried about like mass illegal immigration is very bizarre to me, unless she has a bunch of constituents that are doing visa overstays because it's not exactly like southern border central there.
01:54:49.000And then that, that goes to the thing, the core essence of what about the actual American people that have not been represented the last 50 years in your government.
01:54:58.000Your ancestors are here for the Civil War.
01:55:01.000That was, you know, whatever, 160 years ago.
01:55:03.000Seems like you should have a say in all this.
01:55:06.000My family came here in 1620, Alphonsus Kirk.
01:55:09.000We've been here for a while, 400 years.
01:55:11.000Yeah, so I mean, it doesn't, I don't think you should get two votes or anything, but I also don't think that we should ignore you on purpose, which, and it's like, why don't you be quiet, Maria Salazar?
01:55:22.000When she does this ridiculous thing, she says, you know, we're going to try to have this solamic compromise of splitting the baby, which, by the way, it's not even what happened in 1 Kings.
01:55:29.000It's a whole separate issue we could talk.
01:55:31.000So why would you want to cut a baby in half, you freak?
01:56:39.000He's fighting his heart out every single day to get this deportation effort underway.
01:56:43.000And the president ran on this and the president has committed to this and the president is going to get this done unless these people in Congress try to get in his way, which is that we need to deport 20 million people.
01:56:53.000This all goes full circle, by the way, back to the young people conversation.
01:57:08.000We have a president in office that wants to do it, that is doing it, and yet there are several congressional actors that are trying to undermine him right now.
01:57:16.000What about the pressure you keep hearing about from different sectors?
01:57:29.000I mean, so the Ag one is interesting because we're told that we need to have mass immigration or else the crops will rot in the field, which is interesting because I thought we're going through like a moment of mass automation right now.
01:58:20.000Remember, we got up to 8% to 9% unemployment.
01:58:23.000So maybe we should go hire some of the young men that are on the sidelines of this economy and make this a nation again, not just an economic dumping ground for the third world.
01:58:31.000So you often hear people say, well, I would love to that, but the native whites won't work hard.
02:02:06.000And what's really interesting, what's really a head trip, which I'd recommend to anyone, is going from London to Riyadh or London to Dubai or London to Doha.
02:02:53.000I mean, things I don't agree with, but in general, they're great.
02:02:56.000And I have even said, you know, because you can say whatever you want in their countries, because as long as you're not attacking the leadership, they have free speech in a way that we don't, which is really wild.
02:03:06.000But I've said at dinner, like, what is that?
02:03:08.000Why am I so happy here in, you know, pick the Gulf capital versus London?
02:03:14.000And what is the deal with the Muslims in London or Cologne or Berlin or whatever?
02:03:56.000I've had amazing meals with people in Peshawar, Pakistan, who are like reading P.G. Woodhouse novels and are super smart and have all these languages and stuff.
02:05:14.000We have a million self-deportations already, guesstimated.
02:05:18.000And I can tell you anecdotally in Arizona, like a construction project happening right down the street from where we live, they said that whole crew of, you know, kind of laborers self-deported.
02:05:28.000They hired Americans the next day, or at least people that were here legally.
02:05:32.000So there is anecdotal evidence of self-deportation occurring.
02:05:36.000And the margin at least under Eisenhower, when he did mass deportations, is 10 people self-deported for every one forcible deportation.
02:05:44.000And so CNN just did a special of a guy and his family that's self-deporting from Pittsburgh, you know, adios.
02:05:50.000So look, I think the goal needs to be 10 million this term.
02:05:52.00010 million would be a massive accomplishment.
02:05:55.000That would make the country a considerably and measurably better place.
02:05:59.000Is there any effort or even conversation about getting the refugee system under control?
02:06:10.000I don't know if we, again, this is a really important point.
02:06:13.000Almost all of the excesses, mass migration, refugee, is because the left has weaponized inherited Christian principles against us.
02:06:21.000So we as Christians, we have an open-heartedness towards refugees.
02:06:24.000It says what we should do that in the scriptures.
02:06:27.000It doesn't mean that we should do that blindly.
02:06:28.000So what the left does is they take good-hearted Western Christian beliefs and they totally weaponize them for their kind of remake the body politic of America.
02:06:38.000Here's what I find so unchristian about our refugee system, even before the left distorted it, or maybe they distorted it from the beginning, is Christian charity is the responsibility of the Christian.
02:06:48.000So all these Christian groups and Jewish groups and lots of different groups, but a lot of Christian groups, Catholic charities, Lutheran social services, all these groups that use the gospel to justify it, bring in families or individuals and then offload the cost onto taxpayers.
02:07:14.000And also, it says in the book of Deuteronomy, one of the last things Moses says, it's this farewell address, like Deuteronomy 28, off the top of my head.
02:07:20.000Be careful who you allow within your gates, within the country, because they will soon become your masters.
02:07:24.000Well, and boy, is that not to find out how true that is.
02:07:29.000Phenomenal truth from the scriptures, as always.
02:07:31.000But look, the yes, I know the Trump administration and President Trump, they're trying to strip refugee status of the 500,000 Haitians.
02:09:34.000If we do not fix it with prudence, if we do not fix it with practical judgment and wisdom and resist ideological fervor, you're not going to like what happens next.
02:09:44.000It's going to be Mom Dani on steroids coming to Birmingham, Alabama, Wichita, Kansas, Des Moines, Iowa, Denver, Colorado, Flagstaff, Arizona.
02:09:58.000When young people own stuff, all Of a sudden, their life starts to get ordered.
02:10:02.000We are seeing mass disorder, mass calamity, mass disillusionment, mass chaos, and we seek here to try to fix it.
02:10:09.000This conversation is only the first step that I hope can be a serious national project where we have 20 million deportations, 10 million new homes, and a moratorium on legal immigration so we can figure out what the heck is going on.
02:10:21.000This is a national project that will counter whatever the left has.