The Charlie Kirk Show - My Conversation with Dennis Prager Live at Freedom Night

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00:01:07.000 My conversation with Dennis Prager about Leviticus, the Old Testament, the founding of America, and more.

00:01:12.000 Buckle up, everybody.

00:01:13.000 Here we go.

00:01:14.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.

00:01:16.000 Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus.

00:01:18.000 I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk.

00:01:21.000 Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks.

00:01:24.000 I want to thank Charlie.

00:01:25.000 He's an incredible guy.

00:01:26.000 His spirit, his love of this country, he's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.

00:01:35.000 We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.

00:01:44.000 That's why we are here.

00:01:47.000 Thank you.

00:01:48.000 So I don't want to take too much time because we have a very special guest tonight that we're going to learn a lot from.

00:01:54.000 But I do want to give you a little bit of a summary of the last 24 hours and kind of everything that we experienced and everything that we were kind of going through at Turning Point USA.

00:02:08.000 And so many of you know the work that we do at Turning Point USA is we do work on college campuses, so you don't have to.

00:02:15.000 And our goal is to make sure that your grandkids live in a free country and to make sure that the ideas of freedom and liberty are passed down from one generation to the other.

00:02:30.000 And we do this at Turning Point USA in proven and effective ways.

00:02:34.000 In fact, we now have more high school chapters than college chapters at Turning Point USA.

00:02:39.000 We have hundreds of thousands of students involved, some of whom are here tonight.

00:02:45.000 And one of the things we do at Turning Point USA, and we believe firmly at our core, is that we should intentionally go to places where we are in the philosophical, religious, and ideological minority.

00:02:59.000 That we need to go to places where we are not always going to get the warmest welcome.

00:03:03.000 And in fact, I think one of the reasons that we have lost our country is that far too often conservatives are afraid to go into the left-wing bastions and speak the truth.

00:03:15.000 And so we had this campus event scheduled at University of California Davis for quite some time.

00:03:22.000 And what happened last night was something I've never experienced in my now 10 years of doing this.

00:03:28.000 I have given over 120 speeches on campus.

00:03:31.000 I've given over thousands and thousands of lectures.

00:03:34.000 And as many of you know, radio and podcasting.

00:03:36.000 I've never seen what has happened and what has unfolded because it wasn't just the students or the Antifa terrorists.

00:03:42.000 What unfolded in the last 24 hours is so telling about how the elites and how leaders are involving themselves in the incitement of violence against conservatives.

00:03:55.000 And I'll prove this to you and I'll show it to you.

00:03:58.000 It's disturbing in more ways than one.

00:04:01.000 So, yesterday morning, we were hosting our radio program, and they were already talking a big game at University of California Davis.

00:04:07.000 And the Sacramento B, which is the local newspaper in the Sacramento area, published a newspaper article calling me a fascist speaker.

00:04:16.000 And that's not true, but I can roll my eyes and say whatever.

00:04:20.000 But the byline of the article took my breath away.

00:04:24.000 It said, Charlie Kirk is coming to University of California, Davis, who has openly called for the lynching of trans people.

00:04:32.000 I have, not only have I never said that, I haven't even remotely ever gotten close.

00:04:37.000 It is a fabricated, total, completely fake lie.

00:04:42.000 But the Sacramento B ran with it.

00:04:44.000 And so immediately we mentioned it on our program.

00:04:47.000 We emailed the head of the Sacramento B.

00:04:48.000 We said, hey, this is an internet rumor of somebody that's a trans activist that came after Charlie because he didn't like his strong opinion when he said, quote, in the 1950s and 1960s, men would not have allowed men to compete against women in women's sports or go into women's locker rooms.

00:05:07.000 They would have dealt with it.

00:05:08.000 That was the exact quote.

00:05:10.000 I never said lynching.

00:05:11.000 I never thought of it.

00:05:12.000 And what I meant by dealt with it is that the local district attorney would have arrested a man for going into the locker room for exposing himself to other women.

00:05:20.000 I was very clear about that.

00:05:22.000 And I said repeatedly, peaceful, peaceful, peaceful, peaceful.

00:05:25.000 I went out of my way to say that on the program.

00:05:28.000 So the Sacramento B writes this, but it didn't stop there.

00:05:31.000 And I'm going to show you this video in a second.

00:05:33.000 The chancellor of the University of California Davis, this whole system of schools who earns $850,000 a year, made a video where he then told the entire student body that Charlie Kirk is coming to campus and he has openly called for violence against transgender people.

00:05:53.000 Now, you know, our amazing security team was fielding death threats towards me and my family all week before this.

00:05:59.000 And so what happened was a planned, orchestrated campaign on complete lies, trying to gin up the activist fervor and the energy.

00:06:09.000 And praise God, nobody died last night.

00:06:12.000 See, I'm not, that's not an exaggeration, okay?

00:06:14.000 Praise God, nobody was seriously hospitalized, okay?

00:06:17.000 A police officer was injured and assaulted.

00:06:20.000 They tried to gain access into the building by breaking glass, by using quasi-military type tactics, graffiti, spray painting, hurling projectiles, death threats in the face, you know, harassment.

00:06:31.000 You're going to see that videos in a second.

00:06:33.000 But it was so telling to me that people that are tasked with a fiduciary responsibility to run a school, they are committed to lying to the population.

00:06:43.000 It says, you got to ask yourself why.

00:06:46.000 It's almost as if they wanted a riot so big that they had to cancel my appearance at University of California Davis.

00:06:52.000 And I'll tell you why.

00:06:53.000 I got this from Dennis Prager, which is they get four years of uninterrupted indoctrination of students at UC Davis.

00:07:00.000 They're terrified that Charlie Kirk would get 70 minutes.

00:07:11.000 The university professor said it would be a big statement if Charlie spoke to an empty room.

00:07:15.000 900 students showed up to our event last evening at University of California, Davis.

00:07:23.000 So I'm going to show this short video and then I'll add some comments and then I'm going to kind of show some lessons.

00:07:28.000 And I'm going to give you three reasons why we do this at Turning Point USA.

00:07:32.000 And then I'm going to stop the whole woe is me thing because it's not about me.

00:07:35.000 It's about you.

00:07:36.000 Because if they can do this to me, they will do this to you.

00:07:39.000 They will lie about you.

00:07:41.000 They will smear you and slander you.

00:07:43.000 And I'm going to tell you how we're going to deal with it.

00:07:44.000 You're going to see first the chancellor who earns $850,000 a year, say a material falsehood and a lie and repeat it to try to stoke incitement of a mob against a speaker he doesn't like.

00:07:56.000 And then you'll see the activity of violence that's happening.

00:07:58.000 And praise God, no one was killed.

00:08:00.000 Watch these videos.

00:08:02.000 Many of you have reached out to me and others regarding tonight's event organized by the registered student organization Turning Point USA, or TPUSA, at UC Davis.

00:08:12.000 Thank you for sharing your distress at a student group hosting a speaker who is a well-documented proponent of misinformation and hate and who has advocated for violence against transgender individuals.

00:08:23.000 Under UC policy, campuses may not prohibit student organizations such as TPUSA from inviting these speakers, even if the speaker's intended speech is loathsome and hurtful to me and to others in our campus community.

00:08:36.000 With respect to concerns related to violence, UC policy permits denial of requests if the speaker will present a clear and present danger to the campus.

00:08:44.000 Our council also notes that there is a similarly heavy burden for criminal prosecution for incitement of violence.

00:08:50.000 Please be assured that we are monitoring the event closely to determine if a threat or incitement develops that meets that threshold.

00:08:57.000 We can't control how these groups operate, but we can work together to neutralize and negate their influence.

00:09:03.000 So having to speak to an empty room would make a powerful state.

00:10:56.000 Footage goes on for a while and praise God the police did their job because that really could have got out of control.

00:11:03.000 But let me summarize a couple lessons.

00:11:06.000 And a police officer did have to have medical care treated.

00:11:09.000 A couple lessons from this that I think are important.

00:11:12.000 Because some people say, well, Charlie, why do you do this?

00:11:14.000 Well, number one, we do this to encourage the conservative students that we have on campus there that they are not alone and that you have to stand for your beliefs regardless of what they try to do to you.

00:11:25.000 That's number one.

00:11:27.000 Number two, we do this to try to teach people something.

00:11:31.000 We try to teach them that there is another worldview out there.

00:11:34.000 In fact, at the event we, every event we do at Turning Point USA, if you disagree, you're allowed to go to the front of the line.

00:11:41.000 You're allowed to ask any question of your choosing.

00:11:44.000 We did that last evening.

00:11:45.000 The university president would never mention that.

00:11:47.000 But the third reason we do this, which is the most important reason, because I got a couple emails today from people saying, Charlie, you're the one stoking the violence by attending.

00:11:56.000 Don't you know better?

00:11:57.000 And I think that's such so incorrect.

00:12:00.000 Because we do this most importantly to remind the radical left that they don't run this country, because they're threatened

00:12:30.000 by a short lecture where people who disagree can speak.

00:12:33.000 But we need to go through the effort.

00:12:35.000 So, what is the lesson for all of you?

00:12:37.000 Well, you got to defend yourself.

00:12:40.000 You do.

00:12:40.000 And we did defend ourselves.

00:12:42.000 And believe it or not, the Sacramento Bee issued an apology and a retraction after all the violence, of course.

00:12:49.000 And don't worry, we're drafting up a pretty spicy lawsuit, and they're very, very nervous at the Sacramento B. Very nervous.

00:12:57.000 And I don't take a lot of joy in that.

00:12:59.000 I don't want to get in the courts.

00:13:01.000 But when they materially say something that I have never even thought, let alone is against everything I believe.

00:13:07.000 It's not even a matter of something that's a lie.

00:13:09.000 It is against my values, is what they said I believe.

00:13:14.000 Then I'm not going to put up with that.

00:13:15.000 And there needs to be a price for it.

00:13:17.000 But I want to also say this for all of you: which is they are now running for the hills, doing retractions and apologies, and they've been silent.

00:13:25.000 And it's a reminder for all of you that the truth wins.

00:13:28.000 And that is the cornerstone of Christianity, everybody, is that the truth will set you free.

00:13:34.000 They have to lie.

00:13:37.000 That university chancellor could have said, look, I don't like Charlie Kirk, but guys, don't do violence on our campus.

00:13:43.000 And let me tell you, there's actually an internet rumor circulating that's not true.

00:13:46.000 And let's not be nasty.

00:13:48.000 Instead, he's inciting it because there's a brokenness, there's a darkness there.

00:13:52.000 We have to be salt and light to these people.

00:13:55.000 But for all of you that are experiencing some form of your own individual torment, I want you to know that the reason we do these events is to remind you you're not alone, to show you that there's many people that share your values.

00:14:05.000 That's why we do what we do at Turning Point USA.

00:14:07.000 And it's also to show that we can beat these people, that these people are beatable when we embrace the truth and we go to places where we're not always comfortable.

00:14:18.000 That's when we make the biggest impact.

00:14:20.000 And I can't think of a better segue to introduce someone who has taught me so much.

00:14:24.000 I encourage everyone out here, whether you are religious or not religious, you need to take this man's Bible commentary seriously.

00:14:32.000 I'm telling you, as a Bible-believing Christian who believes in the inerrancy of scripture, listening and walking through his Genesis commentary significantly enriched my faith in Jesus Christ, in God, in the scriptures, understanding the history and the inerrancy of the word of God, and not to mention the necessity of believing in God.

00:14:56.000 This man that you're about to hear from tonight has spoken with more human beings than any other person on the planet on radio and otherwise.

00:15:04.000 40 years on radio, thousands of columns.

00:15:08.000 He speaks fluent biblical Hebrew as well as other six other languages.

00:15:12.000 There is not a question you can ask him about the Torah that he will not be able to answer with whimsy and joy and be able to understand the specifics.

00:15:20.000 And there will be a chance.

00:15:21.000 Remember, I told you about this in the QA for you to ask the hardest question about religion or the Old Testament you can cook up.

00:15:27.000 But Dennis Prager, more than anything else, the reason why I admire him and I learned so much from him is he fights evil.

00:15:33.000 He doesn't just talk about it.

00:15:35.000 He fights evil every day.

00:15:36.000 Ladies and gentlemen, join me in welcoming the legendary Dennis Prager.

00:15:49.000 After that, I can only disappoint you.

00:15:54.000 When I watched that college president, it reaffirmed a very dark view I have.

00:16:04.000 of college presidents.

00:16:10.000 I believe I've said this a number of times on my radio show.

00:16:17.000 One qualification for college president in 95% of our colleges is that you be a coward.

00:16:27.000 Cowardice is a qualification for presidency of a university or any of its deans.

00:16:35.000 By the way, this was true.

00:16:37.000 I was at Columbia University in the 1970s, a little after the Civil War.

00:16:46.000 And I saw it then.

00:16:52.000 Everything that we're seeing today was born then.

00:16:56.000 And there were kids who took over the president's offices, took them over, just took them over, took over dean's offices.

00:17:07.000 Nothing was done to them.

00:17:09.000 And then it was in the name of anti-war.

00:17:11.000 Today it's anti-racism, then it was anti-war.

00:17:14.000 By the way, they really didn't care about the war.

00:17:17.000 They cared about being drafted.

00:17:19.000 Just as important to note that.

00:17:22.000 Because the moment the draft stopped, all the demonstrations stopped.

00:17:26.000 So what Paul Putt did in Cambodia, which is unknown and unspoken of, the Hitlerite massacres of a third of the Cambodian people by the communists that took over, didn't have one demonstration on one campus in the United States of America, because it didn't matter.

00:17:45.000 They cared about Vietnamese like I care about, I don't know, some extraterrestrial group.

00:17:55.000 So it's a disgrace.

00:17:58.000 He lied.

00:17:58.000 I mean, the man, he lied.

00:18:01.000 He materially lied.

00:18:02.000 Yes.

00:18:03.000 And again, I find no joy in this, but we're probably going to sue him and sue him for a lot of money because he caused a lot of good for what he did.

00:18:11.000 That's right.

00:18:14.000 So I'm all yours.

00:18:16.000 Welcome, Dennis.

00:18:18.000 Dennis.

00:18:18.000 By the way, give this man applause.

00:18:20.000 This man, we should all say a prayer to God of thanksgiving that Charlie never went to college.

00:18:36.000 It's only a question that the Lord himself can answer.

00:18:40.000 Would Charlie be the same Charlie had he been poisoned for four years?

00:18:46.000 I don't know the answer.

00:18:47.000 I suspect not, but you never know.

00:18:49.000 You know, I did an hour on my radio show yesterday.

00:18:53.000 Tell me if your kid came back from college a finer human being.

00:19:00.000 Did anyone ever encounter that?

00:19:04.000 You know, my kid went to, and then you named the school.

00:19:07.000 And as a result of college, he or she is deeper, wiser, kinder, more respectful to us, his or her parents.

00:19:18.000 Has anyone ever said that?

00:19:22.000 Does anybody, yeah, okay, fine.

00:19:23.000 Hillsdale, that's very possible.

00:19:25.000 That's correct.

00:19:26.000 Yes.

00:19:28.000 Okay.

00:19:29.000 So, Dennis, there's so many important things we could talk about, but I do want to focus on your remarkable work on the first five books of the Bible, the Pentateuch, the books of Moses, the Torah, which I think you understand better than almost any living person on the planet today and how it applies to today's time, which is honestly the most important.

00:19:49.000 But one of the things you talk about that I think can frame this discussion is something I have repeated: the first 11 books of Genesis in particular lay out distinctions.

00:19:58.000 You were talking about this earlier, which is God created a world where distinctions matter.

00:20:04.000 And since the 1970s, the left has done everything they can to destroy distinctions.

00:20:09.000 Talk about what distinctions God set up in creation and why does it matter?

00:20:15.000 I wrote this first in the 1980s, so this is not new.

00:20:18.000 And I knew then how dangerous the left was.

00:20:23.000 The left is the anti-Bible.

00:20:26.000 That's what they are.

00:20:27.000 It is the antithesis of the Bible.

00:20:30.000 And I'd like to share with you, I know you've heard me and you've read me on this.

00:20:36.000 I'm very flattered.

00:20:40.000 What did God do after creating the world?

00:20:44.000 What did God do the other six days?

00:20:46.000 And whether you take day literally or not is of no interest to me.

00:20:49.000 I happen to think it means era because yom in Hebrew means era, just as it does in English.

00:20:55.000 If you say in our day, you don't mean today.

00:20:58.000 But it doesn't matter.

00:20:59.000 If you take it literally, I don't have a problem with you.

00:21:03.000 But what did God do the other six days?

00:21:06.000 What did he do?

00:21:09.000 And the answer is God made order.

00:21:15.000 The left makes disorder.

00:21:20.000 To understand the left, you must understand it is a force for chaos.

00:21:26.000 Because it's very hard to understand the left.

00:21:28.000 If you say you're a Christian, I'm a Jew.

00:21:31.000 So tell me, where do I go to know what you believe?

00:21:33.000 I'd say, yeah, read the Bible.

00:21:34.000 Very simple.

00:21:36.000 Okay?

00:21:37.000 What would you say?

00:21:38.000 What would a leftist say?

00:21:40.000 The New York Times.

00:21:41.000 Okay.

00:21:42.000 By the way, that may well be an honest answer.

00:21:47.000 That is correct.

00:21:48.000 But they don't know where to send you because it's not written.

00:21:54.000 It's felt.

00:21:55.000 Leftism is felt.

00:21:57.000 And the feeling emanates from undoing divine order.

00:22:02.000 Order reflects God.

00:22:04.000 That's the point.

00:22:06.000 So I listed in the 1980s these differences that God creates man and God, man and animal, man and woman, good and evil, holy and profane.

00:22:24.000 Those are the five big man and nature, too.

00:22:28.000 Oh, yes, thank you.

00:22:29.000 That's correct.

00:22:30.000 You know, Charlie knows my work a little better than I do.

00:22:34.000 It is a combination of embarrassing and comforting.

00:22:40.000 I alternate between both reactions.

00:22:42.000 That's correct.

00:22:43.000 Man and nature.

00:22:44.000 Thank you.

00:22:45.000 And that's a big one today because they are worshiping nature.

00:22:51.000 So that is why I say the most important verse, in my opinion, everyone has their own choice in the Bible is Genesis 1:1.

00:23:00.000 In the beginning, God created the heaven and the earth.

00:23:02.000 If you don't accept that, it's not really worth going to Genesis 1:2.

00:23:08.000 What's the second most important verse?

00:23:11.000 Genesis 1-2.

00:23:13.000 And it was all tohu vavohu, which is untranslatable.

00:23:17.000 It's said null and void.

00:23:18.000 It really means chaos.

00:23:22.000 If you don't accept one, one, you will accept one-two.

00:23:28.000 That is the left.

00:23:30.000 The left is one, two.

00:23:32.000 You, Christian, me, Jew, we're one, one.

00:23:37.000 They're one, two.

00:23:39.000 And it took me a lifetime to figure this out because it's very complex.

00:23:43.000 How does somebody really say men give birth?

00:23:47.000 How do you get to the point where people say what is not just a lie, but is an absurdity?

00:23:55.000 It's as true as two and two is six that men give birth.

00:24:00.000 It means that they live the chaos of Genesis 1-2.

00:24:05.000 And it is done by obliterating distinctions.

00:24:10.000 By the way, one other point, which I know Charlie knows, I'm thrilled.

00:24:16.000 And that is the Hebrew, the biblical Hebrew word for holy, kadosh, means separate.

00:24:24.000 Holy is distinct.

00:24:26.000 Holy and distinctiveness are synonymous.

00:24:30.000 And Dennis, part of what we're living through is the destruction of the distinctions.

00:24:35.000 And explain, give some details for that, because every one of the six, and there also is the distinction between life and death, if you wanted to add a seventh.

00:24:44.000 Well, and if I were to add an eighth between beautiful and ugly.

00:24:47.000 Yes, that's right.

00:24:48.000 No, it's very important.

00:24:49.000 That is a very important distinction.

00:24:51.000 God cares about beauty.

00:24:52.000 Look at all the details about building the tabernacle, the details about the priests' clothing.

00:24:59.000 Though there's a very great emphasis on beauty.

00:25:02.000 That is why I've always defended.

00:25:04.000 I remember when I was at college, kids would get up and say, oh, the Catholic Church spends all this money, all these impoverished people in South America, and they spend all this money on cathedrals.

00:25:17.000 And I thought, what a stupid argument.

00:25:20.000 Let's say you melted all the gold in any cathedral.

00:25:24.000 How much would it help the poor people in any given city in Latin America or wherever else it might be?

00:25:31.000 And then guess what?

00:25:33.000 They don't have a cathedral.

00:25:35.000 The one thing that gave them uplift and inspiration is now done with because the nihilists of the left have destroyed it in the name of giving people some money, which would be spent in such a tiny amount of time.

00:25:54.000 Anyway, beauty, there is a war against every one of the distinctions.

00:25:57.000 So since you asked me, I'll be very brief.

00:26:00.000 So what does the serpent say in the Garden of Eden story?

00:26:04.000 Eat from the tree of knowledge and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.

00:26:09.000 And what it really means is determining good and evil.

00:26:14.000 That is what the left does.

00:26:15.000 The left determines good and evil, not God.

00:26:19.000 That is why they hate God as a belief, because God is the determiner of good and evil.

00:26:25.000 That's why they hate us religious people.

00:26:27.000 We are their biggest enemy, and Christians in particular, because it's so much more numerous.

00:26:31.000 I, as a Jew, constantly say the most persecuted religious group in the world today are Christians.

00:26:38.000 With the exception of one Muslim group in China, which is a terrible, terrible thing, but that's one confined place.

00:26:48.000 But in Africa, massacres of Christians take place by Muslim fanatics regularly.

00:26:54.000 And the hatred of Christians in the United States is completely understandable because you are the only organized opposition.

00:27:06.000 There are individual opponents of the left, but organized is only Christians, and not enough Christians, by the way, just to say the least.

00:27:14.000 The Anglican church in England has just announced that it wants to refer to God in non-binary terms.

00:27:24.000 The Anglican church.

00:27:26.000 It's the church of England.

00:27:28.000 No more he.

00:27:30.000 I have a very big essay in my Genesis.

00:27:32.000 Yet you have three options: he, she, or it.

00:27:34.000 That's right.

00:27:35.000 So I don't know what they'll do.

00:27:36.000 They'll just keep saying, I guess, God.

00:27:38.000 Or maybe they'll say Z. I'm not, you're not laughing because you're not familiar.

00:27:43.000 You're not up to date on your wokeism.

00:27:47.000 I'll bet you.

00:27:48.000 I wonder if even Charlie knows this.

00:27:51.000 Last week, in the Washington Post, it had an article on a non-binary person and used the term zero and z-e and z-e-r, not in quotes.

00:28:08.000 It is now part of Washington Post language non-binary pronouns.

00:28:16.000 That this is a sea change.

00:28:18.000 And that's not insignificant because language needs to represent truth.

00:28:23.000 Language needs to represent something that we can all agree upon and communicate.

00:28:23.000 Yeah.

00:28:28.000 And that is one way to get rid of distinctions, isn't it?

00:28:31.000 You get rid of distinctions by having confusion of language.

00:28:35.000 Well, that's it.

00:28:36.000 So the war against distinction.

00:28:37.000 So by the way, the male-female one is the most dramatic, perhaps, but it is not new.

00:28:47.000 When I was in college, I was taught men and women are basically the same.

00:28:51.000 The war against male-female distinctions is now generations long.

00:28:57.000 I heard that men and women are basically the same.

00:29:01.000 And I didn't put two and two together realizing how significant it was, but I knew it was nonsense.

00:29:08.000 And it's when I came up with the idea that my grandmother, who never went to high school, understood life better than most PhDs do.

00:29:17.000 And she knew that men and women were basically different.

00:29:20.000 You have to go to college not to know that men and women are basically different.

00:29:26.000 And by the way, one of the reasons that I oppose same-sex marriage, and I testified in Congress against it, and by the way, I say this, I just want you to know, my wife and I are godparents to a gay couple's children.

00:29:44.000 In private life, these people are dear souls in my life, and I want to make that clear.

00:29:51.000 But that doesn't mean we redefine marriage for the first time in history.

00:29:57.000 I have a motto which I think is worth adopting.

00:30:00.000 Everyone should adopt: compassion in the micro, standards in the macro.

00:30:06.000 That's a very important distinction to keep.

00:30:09.000 Anyway, I knew there was something very wrong because of the key argument that was made, and the key argument that was made for same-sex marriage is gender doesn't matter.

00:30:23.000 Love does.

00:30:25.000 Gender doesn't matter.

00:30:27.000 And I realized, uh-oh, that is a very, very downhill slope for society.

00:30:33.000 Gender doesn't matter.

00:30:36.000 Okay, that is the end of humanity as we know it if gender doesn't matter.

00:30:40.000 And that is what is now happening.

00:30:42.000 Do you know how many young people now in high school, for example, and increasingly elementary school say that they are the opposite sex?

00:30:52.000 This is the first time in human history that we have this development.

00:30:57.000 It is all socially induced.

00:31:00.000 It is not natural to people.

00:31:02.000 It is not natural for a high school girl to say, I'm really a boy.

00:31:06.000 By the way, how does she know she's a boy?

00:31:09.000 Seriously, think about it for a moment, how absurd it is.

00:31:13.000 You don't know what the hell it is to be a boy.

00:31:15.000 You don't have a clue.

00:31:16.000 We have different brains.

00:31:18.000 Forget we have different genitals.

00:31:20.000 We have different brains.

00:31:21.000 There's a male brain and a female brain.

00:31:24.000 You don't know what it is like, for example, not to find anything.

00:31:32.000 It is a uniquely male characteristic.

00:31:37.000 If a transgendered male, that is, woman becomes a male, starts not finding anything, I will start taking this much more seriously.

00:31:49.000 Or my favorite male-female difference, they put I know you've heard this too, but they, they, some college had a test.

00:31:59.000 They put some college boys and then college girls alone, one at a time, in a room for hours.

00:32:06.000 They could just stare out and think.

00:32:08.000 That's all they could do.

00:32:09.000 So they asked the males, what did you think about?

00:32:12.000 And they asked them females individually, what did you think about?

00:32:16.000 So the males, to no one's shock, thought about sex and sports.

00:32:23.000 What was revelatory to me was the female answer.

00:32:27.000 It was revelatory.

00:32:29.000 They reviewed conversations.

00:32:33.000 Just for the record, there isn't a man alive who has ever reviewed a conversation.

00:32:43.000 That's why I always tell wives, when you ask your husband, what are you thinking?

00:32:57.000 And he says, nothing, really.

00:33:01.000 He is not lying to you.

00:33:09.000 Now, Dennis, a good segue is, distinctions will cease to exist in society if good people don't fight to preserve them.

00:33:18.000 Well, that is exactly right.

00:33:19.000 Look, you fight and I fight.

00:33:22.000 I have another motto or meme.

00:33:25.000 There are three types of good people.

00:33:28.000 Those who fight, those who do nothing, and those who help the fighters.

00:33:35.000 Helping the fighters is as important as fighting.

00:33:39.000 If you help TPUSA or Prager U or any of the fighters, you are doing as much good as the fighters.

00:33:47.000 Not everyone is either in a position or has the temperament to be a fighter.

00:33:54.000 He does and I do.

00:33:55.000 And I recognize not everybody has that, but everybody can help fighters.

00:34:00.000 And let me tell you something.

00:34:02.000 If the fighters don't get supplies, they lose.

00:34:06.000 So it's as important for you to help the fighters.

00:34:10.000 You can't do nothing.

00:34:11.000 But yes, America's in the fight of its life.

00:34:15.000 This is, it's very sad.

00:34:17.000 You know, I write a column every week, and I hope you'd look this up because there are a thousand of them on the internet.

00:34:26.000 And they're really not dated because I write about big themes.

00:34:30.000 And I've written about this on many occasions on the need to fight and how America is in the fight of its life and we have never had a fight like this.

00:34:47.000 This is a unique period in American history.

00:34:52.000 I said to Charlie on the way here, I said, I don't know who it's worse for.

00:34:58.000 Those of us old enough to remember America when Superman was Superman.

00:35:05.000 When, you know, what is it?

00:35:08.000 Truth, Justice, and the American Way.

00:35:12.000 That was his motto.

00:35:13.000 You know, Superman is no longer an American.

00:35:16.000 Member of the world.

00:35:18.000 Yes, Superman.

00:35:19.000 Citizen of the world.

00:35:20.000 Few years ago, in the comic strip, he stood in front of the United Nations and renounced his American citizenship.

00:35:28.000 This is, by the way, is a great example of the difference between liberal and left.

00:35:32.000 Liberals started Superman.

00:35:36.000 Liberals in the 1930s and 40s and 50s loved America.

00:35:41.000 The left hates America for good reason.

00:35:44.000 The American ideal is the opposite of leftism.

00:35:49.000 And he said, I am no longer an American.

00:35:52.000 I am a citizen of the world.

00:35:54.000 So I ask this question, who has it worse?

00:35:58.000 Those of us who have seen the decline or young people who never saw America at its best?

00:36:08.000 I don't know the answer.

00:36:10.000 I don't know if there is an answer, but my heart breaks for both groups.

00:36:15.000 But I was going to tell you of a column I wrote a few weeks ago.

00:36:21.000 So I founded a synagogue in Los Angeles, and I teach the Bible there every Saturday, and it's a very great source of my strength.

00:36:34.000 We could talk about the Sabbath, if you like, Charlie.

00:36:39.000 And we say a prayer for America every week.

00:36:45.000 We have for decades.

00:36:48.000 And one of the lines is, oh God, bless the United States of America, a beacon of light and freedom in the world.

00:36:59.000 And it was maybe the hardest column I ever wrote that I have suggested to the board of my synagogue that we change the wording.

00:37:11.000 It is no longer a beacon of light and liberty in the world.

00:37:17.000 In fact, America is the greatest exporter of toxic ideas on earth today.

00:37:23.000 The British Medical Journal did something I have never seen this past week.

00:37:28.000 It attacked doctors.

00:37:32.000 The British Medical Journal attacked American doctors for giving children hormone blocking, hormone blockers.

00:37:49.000 The American medical profession is a disgrace.

00:37:53.000 The American educational profession is a disgrace.

00:37:57.000 The American teachers are a disgrace.

00:38:00.000 Not every teacher, not every doctor, obviously, as a profession, it's a disgrace.

00:38:07.000 We are sending abroad, this is the country that was the beacon of light and democracy.

00:38:13.000 So I have said, let us just alter the words, may it continue to be a beacon of light and democracy.

00:38:21.000 But I can't lie in a prayer.

00:38:23.000 I can't claim what is no longer true.

00:38:27.000 And you could cry when you read that column.

00:38:31.000 So Dennis, a couple thoughts here before we open it up for some questions that I think is really important, especially when it comes to today's time.

00:38:41.000 So you talk about, we talk about distinctions, we talk about order.

00:38:45.000 Can you just speak a little bit about America's founding roots and how the American founders knew the Torah and in fact, how Deuteronomy was the most quoted of any book, secular or religious, in the writing of the Constitution, the Federalist Papers, and the Declaration of Independence.

00:39:05.000 We teach our kids in government schools that America was a secular nation.

00:39:11.000 But in reality, it was the Bible that founded the philosophical tradition of the greatest nation ever to exist in the history of the world.

00:39:21.000 Yep.

00:39:24.000 By the way, let me just address a word to those of you who are Christian, which is, I'm sure, most of you.

00:39:31.000 And you, I'll say it's a little confrontational, but only said with love, as you probably know.

00:39:43.000 I have a love affair with America's Christians.

00:39:46.000 And by the way, it's reciprocated.

00:39:49.000 I feel very loved by America's Christians.

00:39:56.000 But you're not a serious Christian if you don't know the first five books.

00:40:04.000 That is the, that's, everything rests on the first five books, the Torah.

00:40:09.000 Jesus would agree with me.

00:40:11.000 Love your neighbor as yourself is in the Torah.

00:40:14.000 That's where it is.

00:40:16.000 Love the stranger is in the Torah.

00:40:17.000 Love God is in the Torah.

00:40:19.000 The Ten Commandments are in the Torah.

00:40:20.000 The Exodus is in the Torah.

00:40:22.000 The creation is in the Torah.

00:40:23.000 The Garden of Eden is in the Torah.

00:40:24.000 The Torah are the first five books.

00:40:27.000 You have to know that to know what it means to be a Jew or a Christian.

00:40:33.000 So that's why I've been writing.

00:40:35.000 I've written three of the five books.

00:40:37.000 I'm working on numbers I didn't go in order.

00:40:40.000 To my amazement, when I did Deuteronomy, which I bet you one out of 50 college students could identify what Deuteronomy is.

00:40:53.000 And I noted on my show, by the way, do you know what virtually every American home had 100 years ago and 150 years ago?

00:41:05.000 If they could afford it, they had a Bible and a piano.

00:41:13.000 How many homes have Bibles and pianos today?

00:41:16.000 Very, very few.

00:41:18.000 Well, there you go.

00:41:20.000 All 35 of you that clapped.

00:41:28.000 Let's put it this way.

00:41:29.000 God wants us to love beauty and art needs God.

00:41:35.000 It's a great combination, the Bible and the piano.

00:41:40.000 So you need to know Deuteronomy.

00:41:43.000 Yes, he's heard me note, I did not know this.

00:41:48.000 The founders quoted Deuteronomy more than any other biblical book and any other secular book.

00:41:54.000 The second most quoted author was Montesquieu.

00:41:57.000 And by the way, you'll find this of interest.

00:42:00.000 Jesus cites Psalms the most, and second most, Deuteronomy.

00:42:06.000 The founders knew the Bible, the Torah in particular, so well that Jefferson and Franklin suggested that the great seal of the United States depict the Jews leaving Egypt.

00:42:22.000 And these two were the least religious in the sense of being, they were not doctrinally Christian.

00:42:33.000 They were God-centered, even Jefferson.

00:42:36.000 But it just shows you how much the Torah meant to the founders of this country.

00:42:42.000 So it is very important to know those books.

00:42:47.000 So the final thing, Dennis, and then we'll do some questions.

00:42:50.000 One thing I think you deserve repeated credit for was your moral clarity when it really mattered.

00:42:57.000 And you're sitting right here, Dennis, on a stage where this church was tested and a relationship and a friendship was formed that has now impacted millions of people and this local area.

00:43:10.000 I'll tell you, Dennis, the story and for some other people, but it's directly connected with what you called in the spring of 2020.

00:43:18.000 So, Dennis, in the spring of 2020, for those that do not know, had the moral clarity and courage to write a column and go on his radio program and say that the lockdowns were the worst mistake in human history.

00:43:29.000 Am I saying that correctly, Dennis?

00:43:30.000 Worst mistake.

00:43:31.000 And I'm going to let you talk about mistake versus tragedy, and because some people don't understand versus evil.

00:43:37.000 Yeah, that's right.

00:43:38.000 But as you know, far too many churches shut down and were not willing to do the right thing.

00:43:44.000 Well, Dennis, I got to know the amazing pastors here at Dream City Church, and we had an opportunity to host President Trump in the summer of 2020.

00:43:53.000 I think some of you were at that event.

00:43:55.000 And every other place canceled us.

00:43:59.000 They didn't want us.

00:43:59.000 Dream City Church, under a lot of threats and a lot of pressure, a lot of public health stuff, they stood by us and we had that event.

00:44:06.000 And it was a major turning point in the local area, and it was just amazing.

00:44:12.000 And so, Dennis, you should feel comfortable speaking freely about the churches that didn't do the right thing, because this church did do the right thing, and they were bold and courageous.

00:44:22.000 But, Dennis, talk about how disappointed you were in so many pastors and churches that rolled over and did not fight for liberty with the lockdowns.

00:44:33.000 It's very simple.

00:44:35.000 The only hope for America lies in its religious community, religious Jews and Christians.

00:44:43.000 If they fail, it's over.

00:44:46.000 Because there's no guarantees this country will continue.

00:44:50.000 What did Franklin say?

00:44:51.000 It's a republic if you can keep it.

00:44:54.000 Maybe we can't keep it.

00:44:58.000 So, this was a test.

00:45:00.000 And by the way, you must include synagogues.

00:45:04.000 Synagogues and churches, by and large, failed.

00:45:09.000 They were obedient not only to secular authority, but to irrational secular authority.

00:45:18.000 I mean, of course, you're obedient to rational secular authority.

00:45:23.000 I would hope religious people stop at red lights.

00:45:27.000 I mean, that makes perfect sense.

00:45:30.000 I'm not for anarchy.

00:45:34.000 The damage done to the society with the lockdown, with the lockdowns, what was done by shutting schools, children are not recovered yet from what happened.

00:45:47.000 The economy was hurt horribly.

00:45:52.000 The bank issue is only one manifestation.

00:45:56.000 People got used to being given money for not working, which is exactly morally like giving people heroin.

00:46:05.000 Free money is as addictive as free drugs.

00:46:09.000 I think it is harder for most humans to get off benefits than it is to get off heroin.

00:46:18.000 I mean that literally.

00:46:22.000 There are riots in France because they're raising.

00:46:25.000 Macron, a leftist, wants to raise the Social Security age there to 64.

00:46:31.000 There are riots.

00:46:33.000 Front page of today's newspapers.

00:46:35.000 They're rioting over it.

00:46:38.000 And they get people over 62, I can't believe they get 6,000 euros a month for doing nothing.

00:46:47.000 The article opens of a couple that this year will be visiting Greece and other places.

00:46:57.000 They're just living the life of the wealthy because of the free money that they're given, but there's nobody to support them.

00:47:05.000 When it started socialist governments in Europe, it was four young people working to support every one older person.

00:47:14.000 Today it's 1.5 people supporting every one.

00:47:19.000 Soon it will be one supporting one.

00:47:22.000 You can't have that.

00:47:23.000 It doesn't work.

00:47:24.000 Four to one can work.

00:47:26.000 And by the way, you know why people are having fewer children?

00:47:29.000 Because of secularism, the great killer of society.

00:47:35.000 Religious people have children.

00:47:37.000 Secular people are worried about carbon emissions.

00:47:41.000 And so why would I have a child?

00:47:44.000 Because my child will expel carbon dioxide.

00:47:48.000 I'm ruining the planet if I have a child.

00:47:52.000 You've got to go to college to come up with something that stupid.

00:48:02.000 So thank you.

00:48:04.000 So I read and read and read.

00:48:09.000 Everything about the lockdowns struck me as just damaging.

00:48:15.000 It will increase poverty on earth, increase starvation on earth, all of which it did.

00:48:23.000 And I had a test case.

00:48:26.000 Thank God I never thought I would live to say this.

00:48:29.000 God bless Sweden.

00:48:33.000 I never thought I would say that in my life.

00:48:37.000 Nobody there even believes in God.

00:48:39.000 And I'm saying, God bless Sweden.

00:48:42.000 Any Swedes here?

00:48:45.000 You're all pointing to one person.

00:48:47.000 Okay.

00:48:48.000 There is one Swede in the audience.

00:48:51.000 Tuck, tuck.

00:48:54.000 Sweden was the test case.

00:48:56.000 They didn't close down.

00:48:58.000 They didn't shut schools for one day for kids under 16.

00:49:01.000 Not one day.

00:49:02.000 By the way, guess what?

00:49:03.000 The first college in America to shut down was Harvard.

00:49:09.000 Isn't that fitting?

00:49:12.000 The Ivy League is pathetic, pathetic, morally and intellectually and scientifically in every other way.

00:49:25.000 So I wrote in April of 2020, this was the greatest mistake in history.

00:49:30.000 And I made it clear, not the greatest evil, obviously not.

00:49:35.000 You know, what Mao did to the Chinese and Hitler did to the Jews.

00:49:39.000 I mean, obviously, those are evils.

00:49:40.000 But this was the greatest international mistake.

00:49:43.000 And of course, I was laughed at and mocked and etc., which only enables me to sleep even better.

00:49:53.000 It does.

00:49:54.000 By the way, just a word on that, because he has the same thing, and I hope it registers with Charlie.

00:50:01.000 If you want to touch the world, there is something much worse than being attacked.

00:50:07.000 It's being ignored.

00:50:08.000 And I know that.

00:50:10.000 So the more they attack me, the more I realize what is the old saying?

00:50:14.000 When you fly over the target, there's more flack.

00:50:17.000 That's correct.

00:50:18.000 That flew over the target.

00:50:22.000 Right now, I want you to know it's a competition in my mind for the most dishonest profession.

00:50:32.000 You have no idea what a competition this is.

00:50:35.000 Is it college presidents and deans?

00:50:38.000 Is it teachers' unions?

00:50:40.000 Is it the American Medical Association?

00:50:44.000 And I just don't know which it'll be.

00:50:48.000 But I have to say this.

00:50:50.000 If I know you have a degree in public health, I assume you're stupid.

00:51:02.000 Is that Leviticus?

00:51:05.000 I'm sorry.

00:51:06.000 I said, is that in Leviticus?

00:51:07.000 Oh, is that in Leviticus?

00:51:09.000 I could say yes, and nobody knows Leviticus.

00:51:11.000 No, I wouldn't have no idea.

00:51:13.000 So, what the hell?

00:51:14.000 Leviticus 11.

00:51:15.000 Leviticus 11, exactly.

00:51:17.000 Actually, in the Talmud, it says, All the good doctors go.

00:51:23.000 The best doctors go to hell.

00:51:25.000 The second holiest book in Judaism is the Talmud, 2,000 years old.

00:51:30.000 And there is a line there.

00:51:31.000 I'll give it to you in Hebrew to prove to you it's real.

00:51:34.000 Tov Shaberofim Legehinam.

00:51:36.000 The best doctors go to hell.

00:51:40.000 And for years, no one knew what it meant.

00:51:42.000 And now we know.

00:51:43.000 And now we know.

00:51:44.000 That is exactly.

00:51:45.000 By the way, just for the record, guess, raise your hand if you know what is on the Liberty Bell.

00:51:53.000 What sentence is inscribed?

00:51:56.000 Look, it's I didn't expect any hands to go up except for Charlie's.

00:52:00.000 And it's really, it's this is.

00:52:03.000 Look, I didn't know this till I read it.

00:52:07.000 I, but you should know this.

00:52:09.000 It tells you so much about the founders.

00:52:12.000 There is one verse on the Liberty Bell, and it's from Leviticus.

00:52:19.000 It shows you how well they knew their Torah, the founders, that they took a Leviticus verse and put it on the Liberty Bell.

00:52:29.000 And you shall proclaim liberty throughout the land to all its inhabitants.

00:52:33.000 Leviticus 25.

00:52:36.000 It's beautiful.

00:52:37.000 Let's get to some questions, everybody.

00:52:38.000 Let's line up.

00:52:42.000 Because of the quality of Dennis tonight, we might go a little over time.

00:52:45.000 Is that okay, Joe?

00:52:46.000 Maybe a little bit.

00:52:47.000 Just is that okay?

00:52:48.000 Good, great.

00:52:49.000 So I want to get these questions really focused, guys, on religion, faith, Torah, Old Testament.

00:52:56.000 If it's politics, you guys can call into our shows about that.

00:52:59.000 Right.

00:53:00.000 Honestly, you know, that doesn't really interest me tonight.

00:53:02.000 This is such a special opportunity to talk about things that are of eternal consequence.

00:53:06.000 Obviously, you have a question, we'll let you do it.

00:53:08.000 But if it's politics, we're probably just going to kind of just give a short answer and move on.

00:53:11.000 So let's try to get to the meat of the issue and we'll start right there.

00:53:16.000 Hi, my name is Melissa.

00:53:18.000 And in 2 Kings, God took up the prophet Elijah in a whirlwind, much like we Christians call the rapture.

00:53:26.000 And we are very much excited and waiting for.

00:53:30.000 Are the Jews awaiting a rapture like us?

00:53:35.000 So thank you, Melissa, for the question.

00:53:39.000 So I get many questions from Christians on the radio and in forums like this.

00:53:49.000 And I always debate because I debate how long I should spend on it because I could talk about this for the rest of the evening.

00:54:01.000 So let me just explain something in general.

00:54:05.000 And this is not a defense, and it's not.

00:54:11.000 Let me even go back further.

00:54:13.000 Forgive me.

00:54:16.000 I have no issue with the theological differences between Judaism and Christianity.

00:54:24.000 And by the way, I'll tell you why.

00:54:26.000 Because I don't measure people by their beliefs, but by their behavior.

00:54:32.000 Now, Christians have a slightly harder time with that because theology is truly central to the Christian mission and outlook and so on.

00:54:43.000 But I have brought, I have no doubt, tens of thousands of people back to church.

00:54:51.000 This Jew has brought tens of thousands of people back to church.

00:54:56.000 And I am thrilled that I have done so.

00:54:59.000 And sometimes Christians hearing this person on the radio say, Dennis, just want you to know it was you, a Jew, who brought me back to church.

00:55:08.000 And they then say, then I will get a call.

00:55:12.000 Why are you so happy?

00:55:14.000 Don't you want to bring them to synagogue?

00:55:17.000 But the Jewish calling is to bring people to God and the Ten Commandments and the Bible, not to Judaism.

00:55:24.000 If you want to convert to Judaism, you're more than welcome, but it's not our call.

00:55:28.000 Our call is to bring you to Sinai, where we got the Ten Commandments, where the world should get the Ten Commandments.

00:55:34.000 So it doesn't matter to me that there are theological differences.

00:55:40.000 I love what you're doing, irrespective of whether I share every aspect of your theology.

00:55:47.000 Catholics and Protestants don't share the same theology, but are they not united in the battle for God and Bible?

00:55:54.000 Hopefully they are.

00:55:55.000 Okay, having, so that was my long preface to a short answer.

00:56:00.000 The Messiah plays a much bigger role in Christian faith than in Jewish faith.

00:56:07.000 The Christian Christianity got it from Judaism, that they didn't invent it, as Christians are the first to note.

00:56:15.000 But while it is one of the 13 principles of the Jewish faith, according to Maimonides, the greatest Jewish thinker who ever lived, and those 13 principles are generally accepted among Jews who take Judaism seriously, nevertheless, it is not as central.

00:56:36.000 So what will, and one final, what will happen?

00:56:42.000 It's like when people ask me, I am adamant that there is an afterlife.

00:56:47.000 Adamant.

00:56:48.000 If there is a good God, there is an afterlife.

00:56:53.000 If there's no afterlife, God is not good.

00:56:56.000 I mean, so I'm at, that's logic.

00:56:59.000 That's not theologic.

00:57:00.000 That's logic.

00:57:02.000 But when people ask me, so Dennis, what happens in the afterlife?

00:57:08.000 The only time I ever think about it is when somebody calls my show and asks me, how do I know what happens in the afterlife?

00:57:15.000 No one has reported.

00:57:17.000 So I don't speculate about it.

00:57:21.000 What happens is less important to me than that it happens.

00:57:27.000 Okay, bless you.

00:57:28.000 Thank you.

00:57:29.000 Thank you.

00:57:30.000 Next question.

00:57:30.000 Sorry.

00:57:32.000 Yes, sir.

00:57:33.000 In October of 2019, there were all the freedom fighters, freedom protesters in Hong Kong, and all the world's leaders said, leave them alone.

00:57:43.000 They have a right to be there.

00:57:45.000 In a month, they were all gone because of COVID.

00:57:48.000 Do you see a correlation there?

00:57:50.000 Or is that just happenstance?

00:57:54.000 So I'll really have a strange answer for you.

00:58:01.000 I don't know that COVID was deliberately unleashed on the world.

00:58:06.000 It was obviously unleashed.

00:58:09.000 Whether it was deliberate or not, I don't have a position.

00:58:13.000 I can only say this.

00:58:15.000 This will really blow all your minds.

00:58:21.000 Forget Jews.

00:58:22.000 Judaism does not believe in a devil.

00:58:25.000 It is not a Jewish belief.

00:58:28.000 I know Satan appears in Job, for example, but Satan in Hebrew just means adversary or prosecutor.

00:58:37.000 So I will tell you, and I'm only one person.

00:58:43.000 It's not the most important thing, but I will tell you that the last three years Started me understanding why people would believe in a metaphysical evil figure who brings evil on the earth.

00:59:05.000 It is hard for me to imagine that so many terrible things happen so quickly and there isn't something diabolical about it.

00:59:21.000 I mean, This country was doing really well.

00:59:24.000 I don't care if you hate Donald Trump.

00:59:27.000 I don't care if you love Donald Trump.

00:59:29.000 Donald Trump is not the issue for me.

00:59:31.000 America and the world are the issues.

00:59:34.000 This country was thriving under that president.

00:59:38.000 Period.

00:59:38.000 End of issue.

00:59:45.000 And whether or not there was mischief in the last election, he would have won by a landslide that even cheating could not have undone were it not for COVID.

01:00:00.000 So did the devil bring COVID?

01:00:06.000 Has the diabolical taken over children's hospitals?

01:00:12.000 The biggest advocates of removing healthy girls' breasts because they say they're boys?

01:00:17.000 That's diabolical.

01:00:19.000 Even if you don't believe in God or the devil, it's diabolical.

01:00:24.000 What we are doing to young people in this country, the creme de la creme, Boston Children's Hospital, the most well-known children's hospital in the country affiliated with Harvard Medical School, takes out ads.

01:00:39.000 Come here.

01:00:40.000 We'll take your breasts off.

01:00:45.000 Without the devil, it's explicable, but with the devil, it seems a little more clear.

01:00:52.000 Thank you.

01:00:56.000 Hi.

01:00:58.000 Sorry.

01:00:59.000 First of all, I love your show, and I just wanted to ask you.

01:01:03.000 Which one?

01:01:04.000 Charlie's show.

01:01:13.000 I want you to know I knew he would say that.

01:01:17.000 I'm a good friend of Charlie.

01:01:21.000 I just wanted to ask you a question about crypto.

01:01:24.000 What are your thoughts on digital currency?

01:01:27.000 And what is the biblical stance on it?

01:01:31.000 Yeah, I'll only do this briefly.

01:01:33.000 Thank you for listening and for the support.

01:01:35.000 So when you have a crisis, there's usually an agenda by the leaders to bring something new in because of that crisis.

01:01:42.000 The 2008 financial crisis, we got diversity, equity, inclusion.

01:01:45.000 We got wokeism.

01:01:47.000 We also got basically the nationalization of our student loan industry.

01:01:50.000 We got universal, not universal healthcare, but Obamacare.

01:01:54.000 I'm very afraid that with this new bank crisis that we're seeing, which by the way, credit suisse might collapse in the next couple of hours, which is really scary.

01:02:02.000 That's a $1.5 trillion Swiss bank.

01:02:05.000 When the Swiss banks start to collapse, that's not a good sign.

01:02:08.000 My big concern is they're going to now go to an acronym of four letters, and I want to make sure I get this right.

01:02:12.000 It's CBDC.

01:02:13.000 It might be CDBC, which is centralized bank digital currency.

01:02:17.000 This is effectively a way to erase the dollar and to go to a one-world unilateral currency.

01:02:24.000 One of the reasons why I'm such a proponent, though, of decentralized blockchain technology and why I really support Christy Noam's veto of the bill in South Dakota is that cryptocurrency and decentralized currency is one of the few ways we can push back against the Klaus Wab great reset elites to try to put in this CBDC currency.

01:02:44.000 I know it's very wonky, everybody, but I encourage you to really be vigilant about a new digital dollar they're trying to bring soon.

01:02:53.000 They're trying to do it.

01:02:54.000 It's wonky, it's abstract, it's in the clouds.

01:02:57.000 And for those of you that care about eschatology and end times, I'm not an expert, but it talks about in great detail about the attempt to try to unify the world through a one-world currency.

01:03:08.000 And we should do everything we can to push back against that.

01:03:10.000 So I'm a big fan of crypto for that reason, even though it's rather unstable.

01:03:15.000 Let me add a biblical proof to what Charlie said.

01:03:18.000 God doesn't want this one-world thing.

01:03:20.000 Yes, he wants everybody to worship him and his moral law.

01:03:25.000 That is correct.

01:03:26.000 But everyone with his own nation, when Abraham is blessed, it's very powerful.

01:03:35.000 Through you will be blessed all the nations of the earth.

01:03:39.000 God wants different nations.

01:03:41.000 And the proof is the Tower of Babel.

01:03:44.000 They spoke one language.

01:03:47.000 And God decided: look at what they do when they're unified.

01:03:51.000 I'm going to mix them up and give them a lot of languages.

01:03:55.000 It's a very powerful story.

01:03:58.000 By the way, if you just applauded, you have a moral obligation to read the Rational Bible.

01:04:05.000 That's the name of my commentary.

01:04:07.000 Folks, let me make something clear.

01:04:10.000 I didn't spend the last eight years, and it will end up 10 years, writing a commentary on the first five books of the Bible to get wealthy.

01:04:20.000 In fact, I regarded nobody writes a commentary on Deuteronomy to make money.

01:04:25.000 Is that fair?

01:04:27.000 And it gets worse.

01:04:29.000 The next one is Numbers.

01:04:31.000 No, no, the real title is in the wilderness, though.

01:04:34.000 Yes, it is, but it doesn't, nobody knows that except people who know the Hebrew.

01:04:38.000 But thank you for noting that.

01:04:39.000 I will do that.

01:04:40.000 But nevertheless, Prager's commentary on numbers sounds like a math book.

01:04:47.000 I don't know how many it'll sell.

01:04:50.000 But if you really want to understand what this is about, please do read it, The Rational Bible.

01:04:56.000 Thank you.

01:04:56.000 Yeah, thank you.

01:04:57.000 Yeah.

01:04:58.000 Rational numbers.

01:04:59.000 That's what I like that.

01:05:00.000 And just to add on, Dennis, one more, we could do this all night.

01:05:03.000 Genesis 11: the people of Babel, they wanted to make a name upon themselves, not to glorify God.

01:05:09.000 And God said, let us go down and see what man has done.

01:05:12.000 And it's not good for what they're doing in his sky.

01:05:14.000 Fame is one of the many, many false gods in life.

01:05:19.000 And I have a great motto that you should take to your heart and your mind.

01:05:24.000 The famous are rarely significant, and the significant are rarely famous.

01:05:31.000 Next question.

01:05:33.000 Hi, my name is Beau Jesse Schooter.

01:05:36.000 And how do we help Superman love truth, justice, and the American way again?

01:05:43.000 It's a beautiful question.

01:05:45.000 By the way, they have the most amazing family.

01:05:47.000 They're homeschooling.

01:05:47.000 They're incredible.

01:05:48.000 But Dennis is asking, how do we get Superman back to fighting for truth, justice, and the American way again?

01:05:56.000 It's a very good question.

01:06:00.000 That question is a beautiful way of explaining the battle that we're in now.

01:06:06.000 How do we get Superman back?

01:06:09.000 That is a perfect way of, as a metaphor for our condition.

01:06:16.000 When does he resume fighting for truth, justice, and the American way?

01:06:21.000 That is correct.

01:06:23.000 You know, I think about this.

01:06:25.000 When I was a kid, television was not 24-7.

01:06:32.000 They generally ended broadcasting by midnight.

01:06:35.000 Some of you old enough to remember that will remember that.

01:06:39.000 So what happened at midnight?

01:06:41.000 They would show the American.

01:06:43.000 Do you know this?

01:06:43.000 You may not even know this.

01:06:44.000 This is what would happen on your television set if you were up at midnight.

01:06:49.000 They would show the American flag, they would play the national anthem, and then the screen went blank until, I don't know, 6 a.m., 5 a.m., whenever they resumed.

01:07:00.000 So I remember I loved staying up till midnight to seeing the flag and hearing the national anthem.

01:07:10.000 And I didn't realize it.

01:07:12.000 I loved this country.

01:07:13.000 I didn't realize I loved this country till I was in college.

01:07:16.000 And how it happened is not important, but I did.

01:07:21.000 And I wonder how many kids today get the chills when they see the flag and hear the national anthem.

01:07:31.000 And if you don't get chilled by the national anthem of your country, your country is in jeopardy.

01:07:39.000 It's beautiful.

01:07:44.000 Hi, Dennis.

01:07:45.000 They both just have really quick questions.

01:07:47.000 And we wanted to ask if you say hi to Otto, Snoopy, Megan, and Nathan for us.

01:07:54.000 Okay, so she is referring to something you should know about.

01:07:57.000 280 weeks in a row, I have done a fireside chat from my home.

01:08:04.000 It's at Prager U every week.

01:08:07.000 And it will touch you and your children's lives.

01:08:13.000 Otto is my bulldog.

01:08:15.000 He is the most famous dog in America.

01:08:18.000 And I am proud to say it has not gone to his head.

01:08:23.000 He is as humble as when we brought him home as a puppy.

01:08:27.000 But that's what you're referring to, and thank you.

01:08:31.000 And so there's 280 of them.

01:08:33.000 They're just as applicable today than when they were recorded.

01:08:36.000 They're easily listened to.

01:08:38.000 I've listened to all 280 podcasts.

01:08:40.000 You can watch them as videos.

01:08:42.000 They're fabulous.

01:08:44.000 And Dennis, every topic you can imagine from healthcare to private property rights to the border to foreign policy.

01:08:51.000 And a lot of personal topics.

01:08:53.000 How can you be a courageous person?

01:08:55.000 It's geared to young people.

01:08:58.000 It's unbelievably educational.

01:08:59.000 It's called Fireside Chats with Dennis Prager.

01:09:02.000 Next question.

01:09:03.000 My name is Rebecca Jensen.

01:09:05.000 I homeschool with Classical Conversations.

01:09:07.000 And Mr. Prager, I was wondering what's your favorite Bible verse and why?

01:09:12.000 What is my favorite what?

01:09:13.000 Bible verse.

01:09:14.000 Bible verse?

01:09:16.000 Yes.

01:09:17.000 And she's homeschooled through classical conversations.

01:09:23.000 By the way, if you meet, as I do, so many homeschooled young people, the difference is so powerful between the average homeschooled kid.

01:09:34.000 I'll tell you immediately, they're more mature, they're certainly polite.

01:09:41.000 They know much more about any subject.

01:09:46.000 And here's the key to me: they're not jaded.

01:09:53.000 You get jaded in American schools.

01:09:55.000 You lose your innocence and you get cynical.

01:09:59.000 Okay, my favorite Bible verse.

01:10:01.000 Is that what you asked?

01:10:02.000 And why?

01:10:03.000 And why?

01:10:06.000 Okay, this won't make your day.

01:10:10.000 But I always say what I believe.

01:10:14.000 I do have a favorite Bible verse, and it is: those of you, I'll keep the suspense.

01:10:22.000 I'll say it in Hebrew.

01:10:26.000 Oh Have Adonai sin Uga.

01:10:28.000 Psalm 97, 10.

01:10:30.000 Psalm 97, 10.

01:10:32.000 Those of you who love God must hate evil.

01:10:42.000 Yeah, right, exactly.

01:10:45.000 If you don't hate evil, you don't love God.

01:10:50.000 That's why when Berkeley announced this, I don't know if this is new to you because you really know me well and I'm honored, really honored by that.

01:11:00.000 But Berkeley City Council announced about 25 years ago that Berkeley was a hate-free zone.

01:11:09.000 So I announced on my radio show, I can't visit Berkeley anymore.

01:11:14.000 I hate.

01:11:15.000 I hate evil.

01:11:17.000 I can't get in.

01:11:19.000 It's a stupid comment.

01:11:20.000 Hate-free zone.

01:11:23.000 Because if you don't hate evil, you will hate non-evil.

01:11:27.000 Great Talmudic phrase.

01:11:29.000 Those who are kind to the cruel will be cruel to the kind.

01:11:34.000 That exemplifies the left.

01:11:38.000 Anyway, thank you for asking.

01:11:40.000 It's a delight to meet you.

01:11:42.000 My favorite verse for tonight is Genesis 1.26 and 127, that man is made in the image of God.

01:11:48.000 It answers every political question.

01:11:50.000 If man is a mistake, then Marxism couldn't possibly be entertained.

01:11:56.000 But if man is an image bearer of the Creator, then Marxism is evil.

01:12:03.000 Well said.

01:12:06.000 Okay, so here we go.

01:12:08.000 Yes.

01:12:09.000 Hi, my name is Ezra.

01:12:13.000 I am seven years old.

01:12:16.000 I am sending you.

01:12:18.000 Charlotte's Web.

01:12:21.000 And Little House.

01:12:25.000 Do you have any book recommendations?

01:12:30.000 She asked, how much is each volume of the rational Bible?

01:12:40.000 This is Ezra.

01:12:41.000 She's seven years old.

01:12:43.000 We're reading all the classic literature right now.

01:12:45.000 So we did Charlotte's Web, we did Stuart Little, and Little House in the Prairie Age.

01:12:49.000 She just wanted to know if you had any book recommendations for her.

01:12:52.000 If I have a what?

01:12:54.000 Oh, a book recommendation for a seven-year-old?

01:12:58.000 In the classical tradition, obviously outside of the Bible?

01:13:03.000 Well, this is not in the classical tradition, so it may or may not be helpful to you, but Praetor You, it's all free, has a huge number of books for little kids.

01:13:18.000 Otto's Tales is an example.

01:13:20.000 You're familiar with it already?

01:13:22.000 So I'm bringing Coles to Newcastle.

01:13:25.000 Do you have an answer to what's happening?

01:13:27.000 I don't know if your kids are old enough, but I'm still a big believer in Mark Twain.

01:13:32.000 I think the fact that we got rid of Mark Twain in our school system has been one of the big mistakes.

01:13:36.000 But I don't think your kids are old enough yet, but I would consider that to be in the tradition of especially American literature of kind of adolescent development and boys becoming men.

01:13:49.000 So thank you.

01:13:51.000 Thank you.

01:13:51.000 Bless your family.

01:13:53.000 Hi, my name is Jenna.

01:13:55.000 I'm the state youth advisor for the Arizona Teenage Republicans.

01:13:58.000 I've been an activist for probably three years now.

01:14:02.000 Thank you.

01:14:04.000 Thank you.

01:14:07.000 So I've been involved in activism for quite a while already, but I actually see a lot of new faces in this room when it comes to a lot of kids, teenagers, young adults.

01:14:16.000 There's quite a few here that I've never really seen before.

01:14:19.000 So my question is for if they were to ever get involved, and from your experience, how do biblical principles and teachings motivate you to continue to be involved, even when the days get hard?

01:14:31.000 Even though the days get hard.

01:14:33.000 Yeah, even when the days get hard.

01:14:35.000 Thank you for asking that because this is a very important question to me.

01:14:42.000 So I'm finishing my commentary on the fourth book, Numbers.

01:14:50.000 And in it, in the book of Numbers, is the story of the Israelite spies sent into Canaan.

01:14:58.000 Ten of the 12, each representing one of the tribes, came back and said, we can't do it.

01:15:05.000 They're too strong.

01:15:06.000 They'll kill us.

01:15:10.000 And two, Caleb and Joshua, said, no, no, no.

01:15:14.000 We can conquer it, and God promised that we will.

01:15:19.000 So I read commentary after commentary because I have no issue that I don't believe I'm the only one with great insights.

01:15:29.000 Hopefully I have great insights.

01:15:32.000 So one commentator wrote about why God was so angry at the ten spies who gave the negative report.

01:15:44.000 And when I read it, I decided to publicize this over and over on my radio show and in speeches.

01:15:56.000 Despair is a sin.

01:16:00.000 That was his whole sentence.

01:16:03.000 God says despair is a sin.

01:16:06.000 That is entirely accurate.

01:16:08.000 And even if you don't believe in God, let me ask you something.

01:16:14.000 Could Churchill not have despaired?

01:16:17.000 Could Washington not have despaired?

01:16:21.000 Is there any good battle which was always being won?

01:16:26.000 At no time was there reason for despair?

01:16:30.000 Despair is narcissistic.

01:16:32.000 Sorry.

01:16:33.000 Means you feel sorry for you.

01:16:37.000 Don't do it.

01:16:39.000 You can't despair.

01:16:41.000 And by the way, there's no reason to despair.

01:16:43.000 There's a reason to be worried.

01:16:45.000 We're losing.

01:16:46.000 Okay?

01:16:47.000 I know we're losing, but I don't despair.

01:16:49.000 I wake up every day and fight.

01:16:52.000 And that is what you have to do, and that is what we all have to do.

01:16:59.000 We're going to get to two more.

01:17:00.000 That's my biblical basis.

01:17:02.000 Amen.

01:17:03.000 Hi, Dennis.

01:17:04.000 Hi, Charlie.

01:17:05.000 I just wanted to ask you a question about Revelation and who you think the two witnesses are.

01:17:11.000 I have my own theory about Enoch and Elijah, but I just wanted to know your thoughts about that.

01:17:17.000 Dennis?

01:17:18.000 You take it.

01:17:19.000 Revelation is in the New Testament.

01:17:21.000 I'll let you handle it.

01:17:23.000 I haven't gotten that far yet.

01:17:25.000 Okay, fair enough.

01:17:26.000 We don't know.

01:17:28.000 What is your theory?

01:17:29.000 By the way, are you homeschooled?

01:17:31.000 No.

01:17:31.000 No, he goes to the Green City Christian at Turning Point Academy.

01:17:35.000 Very nice.

01:17:40.000 Anyway, I'm sorry we disappointed you.

01:17:43.000 What's your theory?

01:17:45.000 My theory is Enoch and Elijah because there was no recorded verse of them dying in the Bible.

01:17:53.000 Fascinating.

01:17:53.000 That sounds very rational.

01:17:55.000 Thank you.

01:17:57.000 By the way, talking about biblical figures dying, so it is very widely believed that the Torah is silent about an afterlife.

01:18:09.000 Most Jews don't believe in an afterlife, but that's irrelevant.

01:18:13.000 Most Jews don't keep the Sabbath.

01:18:15.000 Doesn't mean that Judaism doesn't want you to keep the Sabbath.

01:18:18.000 So that's why people should never ask me what the Jews believe.

01:18:22.000 It's irrelevant.

01:18:23.000 They should ask, what does Judaism believe?

01:18:27.000 So, by the way, same with Christians, by the way.

01:18:30.000 The same thing would be applicable.

01:18:33.000 So whenever people die, not any, but Abraham, Isaac, Moses, Jacob, and they die and it says, and they were gathered unto their kin or their people.

01:18:53.000 And what could that possibly mean?

01:18:58.000 They weren't buried with any relatives.

01:19:01.000 They were buried in a separate place.

01:19:02.000 What does it mean they were gathered to their kin?

01:19:05.000 It is an extremely strong argument that it means that they were with their kin in the afterlife.

01:19:12.000 It is a very, by the way, there's another powerful argument.

01:19:16.000 Egypt believed deeply in an afterlife.

01:19:21.000 That's what the pyramids were tombs.

01:19:26.000 And it was to escort the Pharaoh to the next life.

01:19:31.000 The Torah rejects every single thing the Egyptians believe.

01:19:37.000 Why didn't it reject the afterlife?

01:19:42.000 The most basic belief of Egypt, the Torah did not reject.

01:19:48.000 Because there is an afterlife.

01:19:50.000 Yes, there is.

01:19:51.000 Last question.

01:19:53.000 Hi, Dennis and Charlie.

01:19:55.000 Thank you for this event.

01:19:56.000 My name's Hannah Toth.

01:19:57.000 I'm on the town council over in Fountain Hills.

01:20:00.000 And being involved in the local level, I realized that there's a big push to get Republicans or Independents or people that are still having these American morals involved.

01:20:13.000 However, with events like this and even at the local level, we're not making much progress in flipping people.

01:20:22.000 So I guess my question is, how do we spread the message of American morality of Christianity?

01:20:29.000 How do we stop preaching to the choir?

01:20:32.000 Oh, it's a great final question.

01:20:35.000 And Charlie, I'm sure you have some thoughts too.

01:20:39.000 So first of all, I have addressed this issue of, well, you're preaching to the choir all of my life.

01:20:47.000 And I have a very good answer, if I may say, to that.

01:20:53.000 It is as important to preach to the choir as to those who are not in the choir.

01:21:00.000 The reason for our troubled state in America is because the choir forgot the melody.

01:21:11.000 That is the single biggest reason.

01:21:15.000 The vast majority of believing Christians and believing Jews didn't have a clue as to how to make the case for God in the Bible.

01:21:26.000 And why is there so much disaffection?

01:21:29.000 How many religious families still have religious children or religious grandchildren?

01:21:35.000 Not all by any means, maybe half.

01:21:39.000 We have the lowest church going rate in American history today.

01:21:43.000 Clearly, the believers didn't preach to the choir effectively.

01:21:49.000 And it's true in secular life.

01:21:52.000 Americans didn't know how to preach America to Americans.

01:21:58.000 And you know who it began with?

01:22:01.000 The generation called the greatest generation.

01:22:05.000 I began speaking at the age of 21.

01:22:07.000 I have been in public life every day of my adult life.

01:22:12.000 And I remember in my 20s speaking to adults and looking at them, this was all the World War II generation.

01:22:19.000 And I said to them in my 20s, I wish I had recordings of it, folks, or ladies and gentlemen, when you were still allowed to say ladies and gentlemen.

01:22:30.000 So, ladies and gentlemen, you have devoted your lives to giving my generation everything you didn't have.

01:22:40.000 There's a big problem.

01:22:42.000 You didn't give us everything you did have.

01:22:51.000 So I knew this as a kid.

01:22:55.000 They didn't give us, they didn't give us what it means to be an American.

01:23:00.000 They gave us as trouble-free a childhood, which is understandable.

01:23:06.000 I'm not blaming them, but it's their fault, but I'm not blaming them.

01:23:12.000 After the Depression and World War II, you were interested in your kids having a really easy childhood.

01:23:20.000 And they did it.

01:23:21.000 They gave us a really easy childhood, and it produced the baby boomer generation, which produced the current generations.

01:23:30.000 So number one, you must teach the choir the melody.

01:23:34.000 If they don't have it, there's no chance.

01:23:37.000 So I'm totally for preaching to the choir because it doesn't know how to sing.

01:23:42.000 Number two, we do have to touch everybody else.

01:23:46.000 That is why they don't want him at UC Davis.

01:23:51.000 That is why they try to shut down Prager You on YouTube.

01:23:56.000 Deep down, every leftist knows if they hear us, they're doomed.

01:24:03.000 They really, really, really believe that.

01:24:06.000 That's why they have to smear us as much as possible as misinformation.

01:24:11.000 Misinformation.

01:24:12.000 I learned Russian in order to read Pravda.

01:24:16.000 I am an expert in left-wing lies.

01:24:19.000 That's all I studied.

01:24:21.000 There were seven kids out of thousands at Colombia who majored in communist affairs.

01:24:26.000 I was one of the seven.

01:24:28.000 And I read Russian in order to read Pravda.

01:24:32.000 That's all they would do whenever they differed with something the West said, misinformation.

01:24:38.000 Putin says that to this day.

01:24:41.000 It's all disinformation, misinformation.

01:24:44.000 This is their way of suppressing dissent.

01:24:48.000 Final thing that you should remember and tell your kids if they don't share your values.

01:24:55.000 On the fireside chat, half of it is me talking.

01:24:58.000 The other half is me taking questions from viewers and listeners, usually young people all over the world.

01:25:06.000 Young person sends in a question, Dennis, how am I supposed to know who's telling the truth and who's lying?

01:25:14.000 It's a very good question.

01:25:16.000 How are you supposed to know?

01:25:18.000 Well, thank God, I think best under pressure.

01:25:22.000 And I actually came up with an answer at the fireside chat, which I had never thought to give before, and is really something you should share.

01:25:34.000 This is how you know who's lying and who's telling the truth.

01:25:39.000 The liars censor.

01:25:43.000 That's how you know.

01:25:47.000 Thank you.

01:25:50.000 I encourage all of you to do a couple of things.

01:25:52.000 Check out Dennis' book, The Rational Bible, and we need to fight.

01:25:56.000 And I'll answer that question in the more broad question.

01:25:59.000 The people that agree with our worldview have been quiet for too long.

01:26:04.000 And they win if we silence ourselves.

01:26:08.000 They will lose if we speak up with truth.

01:26:10.000 I truly believe it's that simple.

01:26:12.000 Dennis, you are a national treasure, and you've impacted millions of people.

01:26:17.000 Praise God.

01:26:18.000 We thank God for you, Dennis.

01:26:19.000 Praise God.

01:26:19.000 Thank you.

01:26:20.000 Thank you.

01:26:21.000 Thank you, everybody.

01:26:25.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

01:26:26.000 Email us your thoughts as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

01:26:29.000 Thanks so much for listening, and God bless.

01:26:34.000 For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to CharlieKirk.com.

The Charlie Kirk Show - March 26, 2023

My Conversation with Dennis Prager Live at Freedom Night

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