The Charlie Kirk Show - My First Hand Experience at the RNC with Tyler Bowyer

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00:01:45.000 I was in Dana Point, California on Friday.

00:01:47.000 We took off on this show.

00:01:48.000 Jack Pesobic did a great job filling in.

00:01:50.000 I woke up very early after a long day of interviewing Governor Ron DeSantis, flew all the way across the country, Red Eye Flight, got a couple hours of sleep, got dressed up, and met Tyler Boyer, who will be joining us just a second in the lobby.

00:02:04.000 And I saw some familiar faces and I started and I put on the best costume, if you will, of a lobbyist.

00:02:12.000 Literally being in the lobby of the Waldorf Astoria $900 a night hotel.

00:02:20.000 And I began my charm offensive, shaking hands, asking questions, saying, Hey, who are you voting for?

00:02:25.000 And I saw a fair amount of Harmeet Dylan and Mike Lindell folks.

00:02:28.000 And before we go any further, both Harmeet Dylan and Mike Lindell's cause was the same.

00:02:33.000 Meaning, they weren't working against one another.

00:02:35.000 They were just trying to get Rana beneath the threshold.

00:02:37.000 I saw Mike and I had a great conversation with him.

00:02:39.000 Love Mike Lindell, and I love Harmeet.

00:02:40.000 So the point is, were you supporting the current regime or not?

00:02:44.000 And within a couple minutes, I realized I had entered a different planet.

00:02:49.000 I'd entered a different realm of existence, Middle Earth, Narnia, whatever you want to call it.

00:02:56.000 Disconnect would do far too much credit to what was happening in Dana Point, California at the Waldorf Astoria.

00:03:06.000 I started to ask some members.

00:03:08.000 I was very polite, and I was trying my best to be charming, especially the ones that were wearing the Rana buttons.

00:03:15.000 And I said, I would, you got to lay it out for me.

00:03:19.000 What on earth is the case for Rana?

00:03:22.000 And some were a little sheepish about it.

00:03:25.000 Some said, you know, she's doing a pretty good job and we want continuity and not chaos.

00:03:31.000 But others were hyper aggressive.

00:03:36.000 Others said, first of all, Charlie, we don't like you telling us what to do.

00:03:40.000 I said, well, first of all, it's not me.

00:03:42.000 I'm just a conduit for our audience and the hundreds of thousands of people that you guys beg for donations from.

00:03:48.000 Triple match, we need your money.

00:03:51.000 Help us fire Nancy Pelosi. 1.00

00:03:53.000 Email, donate now, donate now, donate now, donate now.

00:03:57.000 So maybe you should press pause and listen to the very people that you incessantly call and ask for donations.

00:04:04.000 They're unfazed by that.

00:04:07.000 But some people went as far to tell me that they thought that Rana was the best chair the RNC has ever had, that the November midterms is one of the best successes in recent memory.

00:04:18.000 One member told me that it could not have gone any better, except for maybe a couple races that they blamed for candidate selection.

00:04:26.000 I asked them who.

00:04:27.000 They said, well, we can't have wackadoodles like Carrie Lake running around. 1.00

00:04:31.000 It's a direct quote from one of the RNC members.

00:04:34.000 So let me break this into a couple pieces, and I'm going to tell you some inside baseball that I think you need to know.

00:04:40.000 You need to know actually some of the dynamics that were playing out in Dana Point, California.

00:04:45.000 Now, before we go any further, I won no friends by being there.

00:04:49.000 I had one very forceful RNC member come up to me, and it did end well because I had a heart for reconciliation, but he was not happy to see me.

00:04:57.000 And he made it very clear, largely because I threatened, and we will make good on this promise, to remove RNC members that decided to defy their voters and stick a middle finger at a $900 a night resort while their constituents and their members can barely afford to put food on the table.

00:05:12.000 Not exactly a recipe for a sustainable political party.

00:05:15.000 So let me break this.

00:05:16.000 First and foremost, let me start with the positive.

00:05:20.000 There's anywhere between 57 to 60 fabulous RNC members.

00:05:25.000 It's not all bad.

00:05:27.000 There are some patriots from Wyoming, from Arizona, from Alabama.

00:05:32.000 They really get it.

00:05:34.000 And that's one out of three.

00:05:37.000 There are people that really listen to their voters.

00:05:42.000 And not a little bit.

00:05:44.000 I'm telling you, the folks I was talking to from Idaho and from some from South Dakota, from North Dakota, Nebraska, they're in the trenches.

00:05:52.000 They're listening to their constituents.

00:05:54.000 They're fired up.

00:05:55.000 They're tired of the country club.

00:05:57.000 And that deserves to be mentioned before we go any further.

00:06:00.000 I was moved.

00:06:01.000 I felt like I was talking to one of you in our audience.

00:06:05.000 They're really upset with how things are going.

00:06:07.000 They did everything they possibly could.

00:06:09.000 The sentiment when I arrived was they felt as if they were outnumbered and that there was just so much pressure on them, but they held the line.

00:06:17.000 There were 55 to 57 that I felt a bond with.

00:06:20.000 I said, we could build a political party around these people.

00:06:22.000 There are 55 people that are absolute, complete patriots.

00:06:28.000 They understood the problem.

00:06:30.000 They were willing to act on it.

00:06:32.000 They had the courage to try to voice their opinion that it's not acceptable to lose the Senate, spend $700,000 on flowers, $17 million on donor gifts, and act as if everything is okay.

00:06:47.000 That is not acceptable.

00:06:50.000 The second category is I think there's probably 10 or 15 members that just kind of go with the flow.

00:06:57.000 They don't want to upset the apple cart.

00:06:59.000 They lack courage, even though they know something is wrong.

00:07:01.000 I spoke with one of these members, one lady that I've known for a long time, and she said, look, I voted for Rana just because I don't like chaos.

00:07:09.000 I just want things to remain as is.

00:07:11.000 And I think Rana's not doing a great job, but I just want peace and calm and serenity.

00:07:21.000 Now, while I appreciate that argument, I find that to be remarkably naive.

00:07:26.000 We are in a wartime chapter at the Republican Party.

00:07:31.000 This is not time for peace and calm and serenity.

00:07:34.000 This is not time to just watch things remain exactly the same.

00:07:39.000 They're medically mutilating our children. 0.99

00:07:41.000 They're teaching them bigot, racist, anti-white curriculum. 0.99

00:07:44.000 Our borders are wide open. 0.97

00:07:45.000 They're trying to stumble us into a thermonuclear war thousands of miles away.

00:07:50.000 Our economy is on the verge of recession.

00:07:52.000 I'm not exactly enthusiastic around this idea of trying to keep things exactly the same.

00:07:58.000 I think we have to do the exact opposite.

00:08:01.000 Okay, and then is the third category.

00:08:04.000 The third category is the largest category of the Republican National Committee.

00:08:09.000 Remember, there's 168 of them.

00:08:12.000 These are people that really don't like you.

00:08:16.000 I'm not saying they don't listen to you.

00:08:18.000 They have contempt for you.

00:08:21.000 It's one thing to say that, okay, you know, I don't agree with them.

00:08:24.000 No, no, no.

00:08:25.000 It was evident and clear to some of the people I spoke to that they look at you as the unwashed.

00:08:32.000 You could almost say they look at you as the deplorables.

00:08:36.000 One after the other that I talked to would say, these emails that I'm getting from these people, who do they think they are?

00:08:43.000 Non-stop emails trying to tell us what to do.

00:08:47.000 We are the Republican National Committee.

00:08:50.000 You think you guys can tell us what to do?

00:08:53.000 The smugness, the arrogance, surrounded by the opulence of the Waldorf Astoria, the self-righteousness.

00:09:01.000 They said, we are the chosen ones.

00:09:04.000 We are the philosopher kings.

00:09:05.000 We are the ones in the clouds.

00:09:07.000 Do not distract us with your messiness, your dirtiness.

00:09:12.000 These are the people that shop at Walmart.

00:09:15.000 Now, they didn't say that, but they might as well have.

00:09:18.000 Now, unfortunately, they are the majority of the Republican National Committee.

00:09:23.000 They are the country club.

00:09:25.000 They are impenetrable.

00:09:26.000 And I did my best.

00:09:27.000 I tried to challenge them.

00:09:28.000 In fact, one man, he said, I think Rana is doing a fabulous job.

00:09:32.000 I said, well, 98% of your constituents disagree.

00:09:36.000 And you know what he said?

00:09:36.000 He said, they watch Too Much War Room, Charlie Kirk Show, and Tucker Carlson.

00:09:41.000 They're not getting the whole story.

00:09:43.000 I said, well, sir, what exactly is that story?

00:09:46.000 He said, the story is the Republican Party has never been stronger than it is today.

00:09:51.000 And I asked him, this is literally what I said.

00:09:53.000 I said, have you ever read 1984?

00:09:56.000 You're doing a pretty good job at it.

00:10:00.000 That conversation didn't end well.

00:10:04.000 There are some amazing patriots.

00:10:06.000 There are some winnable people in the middle.

00:10:07.000 And then there are some people that have deep-seated contempt for you.

00:10:13.000 But there is a dynamic at play here that you need to know about.

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00:11:38.000 Charlie, name the names.

00:11:39.000 So I will name the names of the people that supported Harmeet.

00:11:44.000 There's approximately 45 to 50 of them, and I will name them.

00:11:49.000 It's a secret ballot.

00:11:49.000 We don't know.

00:11:51.000 And so we just know the end result.

00:11:52.000 So you could subtract the ones that were publicly for Harmeet or approximately for Harmeet, and then we could fill in the gaps.

00:11:59.000 And so a lot of you say, Charlie, what did this state?

00:12:00.000 We'll get through that.

00:12:01.000 Tyler's going to be here.

00:12:02.000 We're going to talk about the top states. 0.96

00:12:04.000 I could tell you that this clown from Tennessee, what is this guy's name? 0.82

00:12:08.000 We'll see that, who's attacking me in the Associated Press, saying, Charlie Kirk is to blame. 0.95

00:12:14.000 Okay, great.

00:12:15.000 But let me tell you, there is a dynamic here, and it is summarized in the Associated Press article.

00:12:19.000 Let me just read the Associated Press article because this is true.

00:12:23.000 And when I got there, I was shocked.

00:12:25.000 One member after the other said, well, Charlie, you're pro-Trump, which I am, Donald Trump 2024.

00:12:31.000 A lot of them said, well, Charlie, Trump's team is here lobbying for Rana.

00:12:35.000 What are you talking about?

00:12:35.000 It's like, what?

00:12:37.000 It's true.

00:12:38.000 Associated Press reported, Trump had quietly supported Rana Romney, a niece of Republican Senator Mitt Romney of Utah, and dispatched a handful of his lieutenants to Southern California to advocate on her behalf.

00:12:51.000 President Trump avoided making a public endorsement at McDaniel's request, according to those with direct knowledge of the situation, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe private conversations.

00:13:01.000 McDaniel's team was confident that she would win without public backing, allowing her to maintain a sense of neutrality heading into the 2024 presidential primary season.

00:13:11.000 The Associated Press also writes: Trump privately backed McDaniel.

00:13:17.000 Powerful forces within his MAGA movement lined up while other people lined up behind Dylan.

00:13:23.000 And so this is true.

00:13:24.000 When I was walking the halls and I was shaking hands, one after the other said, Well, Charlie, I'm a little bit confused.

00:13:31.000 Mar-a-Lago is here.

00:13:34.000 Some of the top Trump lieutenants are here advocating for Rana.

00:13:39.000 And it became abundantly clear that Rana was the choice of Mar-a-Lago, that the current RNC regime that loses and wastes your money and sends you emails and hates you might have got across the finish line because Mar-a-Lago advocated for it.

00:13:55.000 Now, I'm a huge Trump backer and I remain that.

00:13:57.000 I think it was a mistake to do that.

00:13:59.000 I would have liked to have seen Donald Trump do the exact opposite and send his lieutenants for change at the RNC, not to continue with this Rana Romney pattern of losing.

00:14:11.000 And so that was really demoralizing.

00:14:13.000 I'm not going to lie.

00:14:15.000 Here I am trying to be your voice for the populist nationalist conservative movement.

00:14:21.000 98% of us want to see some sort of change.

00:14:24.000 I get emails from you guys saying, Charlie, I give $100 a month that I don't have.

00:14:28.000 Thank you for going to Dana Point to try to figure out what the heck is going on.

00:14:34.000 And here I am learning that the guy that I'm backing in 2024 enthusiastically, by the way, because I believe that he's going to upset the establishment and that he's a true conservative, that his lieutenants, at the very least, and I don't know how involved he was, but you can connect some dots, is the one working the halls.

00:14:52.000 I think it's a big mistake.

00:14:54.000 I do.

00:14:55.000 If Donald Trump wants to win in the White House, you don't want Ronna Romney doing that.

00:14:59.000 How many presidential elections has Rana Romney actually successfully been able to get?

00:15:03.000 2018, she lost us the House.

00:15:05.000 2020, we lost the House and the Senate.

00:15:07.000 2022, we lost the Senate and barely won the House.

00:15:10.000 What is her track record for leadership and for victory? 0.96

00:15:13.000 It's perplexing, isn't it?

00:15:15.000 And so you guys all have a right to know that.

00:15:18.000 And it's just disappointing.

00:15:21.000 It is.

00:15:22.000 I'm going to read some quotes here because I wrote them down on my phone.

00:15:26.000 This is from members.

00:15:28.000 I did this just as I was there just for accuracy.

00:15:30.000 And it's an approximation.

00:15:32.000 Quote from one RNC member, I think Rana does a great job and people are being lied by people like you, being lied to by people like you.

00:15:41.000 Another one, quote, Charlie, Trump's team was here the last few days.

00:15:44.000 It is clear that Trump supports Rana.

00:15:46.000 Therefore, I'm supporting Rana.

00:15:48.000 What was clear, though, is that they were unmoved by you.

00:15:53.000 Some members were out of that kind of 51, 55.

00:15:56.000 However, a vast majority do not care at all what you think.

00:16:05.000 And I have no regrets at all by asking you guys to email them, but it certainly didn't help.

00:16:10.000 You might say it would hurt.

00:16:11.000 It's as if they hate you so much.

00:16:15.000 It only made them want to defy you more.

00:16:20.000 I'm curious what many of you think, because I know we have a predominantly pro-Trump audience.

00:16:26.000 Ron DeSantis came out and said, we need to have change at the RNC.

00:16:29.000 We need to get rid of Ronald Romney.

00:16:31.000 Donald Trump, through his more subterranean efforts, said the opposite.

00:16:37.000 And again, my support of Donald Trump is unmoved by this, but I'm not going to, I'm too connected to all of you and I respect all of you.

00:16:44.000 It's demoralizing.

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00:17:50.000 Tyler, welcome.

00:17:52.000 Thank you, Charlie.

00:17:53.000 What a week.

00:17:53.000 It's been a week.

00:17:54.000 It's been a, you know, a crazy few months, but, you know, you brought this up.

00:17:59.000 I mean, there was a number of different re there were a number of different reasons why people had significant concerns about going with the same.

00:18:09.000 We've talked about that at nauseum.

00:18:12.000 So that won't be the topic of our conversation, even though that will come up more and more as the months and years go on here.

00:18:19.000 But look, I mean, the reality is this is the inside of the beast that we saw that a lot of people didn't see was just a lot of people that look like deer and headlights, just very scared.

00:18:30.000 That's right.

00:18:30.000 That's the sense of change.

00:18:32.000 It was just a lot of people I respect.

00:18:33.000 I've known for a long time.

00:18:35.000 Even people that we expected to flip, like good conservatives, right, that were not, who I know for a fact are not big Rana fans.

00:18:43.000 We had talked about this.

00:18:44.000 There's probably 20 to 30 people on this committee that could have elected new change, that could have elected someone new, but they were, they lacked the confidence.

00:18:55.000 They lacked the energy.

00:18:56.000 They didn't spend the time, I think, doing the research and spending the time actually having the conversations.

00:19:01.000 And here's the point that I'll make that I've been making is there's only a handful of states that are going to be able to win us the White House in 2024.

00:19:09.000 I got only a handful of phone calls from RNC members.

00:19:13.000 All of those ended up supporting Harmeat about what's happening in Arizona.

00:19:17.000 How do we win Arizona?

00:19:19.000 How do we win this state?

00:19:21.000 To me, that's what's most critical.

00:19:23.000 But, you know, you brought up the question, well, what happens now, right?

00:19:27.000 What happens with these individuals that decided to support Rana, again, for a second term?

00:19:32.000 And look, I'm all for unity and everything else, but I'm also for making sure that we actually win in 2024.

00:19:40.000 I'm for clarity more than unity right now.

00:19:41.000 I want to know what side these people are on.

00:19:43.000 And I learned a majority are not on our side.

00:19:46.000 Well, and here's what we were warning.

00:19:48.000 And I had a good conversation with one of the members.

00:19:50.000 I won't say what her name was, but she was a national committee woman from a state.

00:19:55.000 And she came up to me and she was like, Well, now that I voted for Ron, are you guys going to try to take me out?

00:20:00.000 And I was like, No, look, what Charlie has a different answer than me.

00:20:06.000 If you actually read the email that Charlie sent out, because Charlie sent out a really, a really well-crafted email that essentially said this: if you don't listen to the grassroots, the grassroots is going to replace you.

00:20:18.000 And if they vote you out, then that means we have to spend all of our time finding a better replacement for you.

00:20:24.000 Correct.

00:20:24.000 The ideal scenario would be: you stay put, you just listen to the grassroots, do what the grassroots asks you to do.

00:20:30.000 It's very simple.

00:20:33.000 I, as an RNC member, do not represent Rana to the people.

00:20:37.000 That is not my job.

00:20:38.000 My job is to represent the people to Rana.

00:20:41.000 That's exactly right.

00:20:42.000 And that was the message that we were trying to deliver and say, hey, if you start becoming just like this flying monkey for the regime, then people are going to shoot you down.

00:20:55.000 They're going to be very upset.

00:20:56.000 You're not going to keep your job for very long.

00:20:58.000 And the unfortunate part, the RNC very rarely has issues that they have to be held accountable for.

00:21:04.000 This is one of the biggest issues that you maybe ever have ever been aware of, right?

00:21:09.000 And this is just the beginning because I think people are now going to be more aware of moving forward.

00:21:13.000 So we sent out this letter.

00:21:15.000 I had one person come up to me and they said, you're not going to take me out now because they said, I just voted for Rana.

00:21:20.000 I said, I probably will.

00:21:21.000 Yeah.

00:21:22.000 I mean, it's, I mean, we might win, we might not win.

00:21:24.000 But so, just so everyone understands, we need to have a grassroots movement to hold these people accountable.

00:21:30.000 So you say, Charlie, who are these people?

00:21:32.000 Okay, let's go through.

00:21:32.000 You're comfortable with us sharing this list, Tyler?

00:21:35.000 Yeah, the public one, yep.

00:21:36.000 The public one.

00:21:37.000 Okay.

00:21:37.000 The reason is that there were some people who we don't know, but okay, we're going to go through 36 names right now of people that were rock-solid Harmeet supporters.

00:21:46.000 Is that right?

00:21:46.000 Yep.

00:21:47.000 Okay.

00:21:47.000 These are people that deserve to be encouraged, thanked, and congratulated.

00:21:53.000 The opposite of what we need to do to the rest, okay?

00:21:55.000 This is only 36 out of 168.

00:21:57.000 Now, what was the final vote tally?

00:21:59.000 How much did Harmet and Mike Lindell end up getting?

00:22:01.000 55 votes combined.

00:22:03.000 Now, that's so it's 111 to 55.

00:22:05.000 Now, that really is only losing by what, 28 votes, right?

00:22:09.000 Yes.

00:22:10.000 So, because if 28 votes flipped, it would have been a completely different race.

00:22:14.000 Yeah, so it's, I mean, that's not very many people.

00:22:16.000 I mean, 28 people in America.

00:22:19.000 That's all it took.

00:22:20.000 And the entire Republican Party made up of millions and millions of people.

00:22:24.000 28 people.

00:22:24.000 Nine or 10 states, you could do it if you consider it.

00:22:27.000 All right, let's go through the list.

00:22:28.000 Okay.

00:22:28.000 Reynolds from Alabama supported change at the RNC.

00:22:31.000 Paul, wonderful, wonderful individual who is like literally become one of my best friends on the committee.

00:22:37.000 He is a wonderful, wonderful guy, big radio guy.

00:22:39.000 It's great.

00:22:40.000 Arkansas, it looks like Barnett from Arkansas.

00:22:43.000 Is that right?

00:22:43.000 Jonathan as well.

00:22:44.000 Incredible dude.

00:22:46.000 Actually, the whole Arkansas delegation was against it.

00:22:49.000 Yeah, he fostered a lot that's happened with the Huckabee family and everything in Arkansas.

00:22:54.000 He's been one of the pioneers of Republicanism in Arkansas since it went from a blue state.

00:23:01.000 Hillard from Arkansas.

00:23:04.000 Yep.

00:23:05.000 And McCallan and from Arkansas.

00:23:07.000 I'm sorry, I can't see that.

00:23:08.000 It's McCallahan or something from Arkansas.

00:23:11.000 Yeah.

00:23:12.000 Tyler Boyer from Arizona.

00:23:14.000 Good job, whoever he is.

00:23:16.000 Kelly Ward, who's actually no longer state party chair.

00:23:18.000 Did Jeff DeWitt win?

00:23:19.000 Jeff DeWitt, who is the CEO of the Trump campaign in 2016, one of the first public officials to come out for Donald Trump in 2015, just won and became the state party chair.

00:23:29.000 So congrats, Jeff, but he's a good dude.

00:23:31.000 Harmeet obviously voted for change.

00:23:33.000 Then from Delaware, McCrosson from Delaware supported change.

00:23:37.000 And she stuck her neck out there. 1.00

00:23:39.000 That's a tough state to do that.

00:23:40.000 She's a wonderful human being.

00:23:42.000 Then from Feman, Florida, voted for change.

00:23:46.000 Yeah, Peter Feeman is an incredible patriot and warrior.

00:23:51.000 And I'll just say this.

00:23:53.000 He's the national committeeman.

00:23:55.000 He's been one of the most conservative members on the RNC.

00:23:58.000 And they're looking at a whole new national committee woman now, I think, in Florida because of this. 0.91

00:24:04.000 Then Thompson from Georgia stuck his neck out too, looks like.

00:24:07.000 Yeah, the entire Georgia delegation was not on board for Rana publicly at all in any kind of way, which should tell you everything.

00:24:15.000 When Georgia and Arizona are.

00:24:16.000 So they think things are going wonderfully in Georgia when I talked to them.

00:24:21.000 Who told you that?

00:24:22.000 One of the committeemen for Georgia.

00:24:23.000 Well, that's Jason.

00:24:24.000 Jason was on Team Harmee.

00:24:26.000 Oh, I know, but not every Georgia personally.

00:24:28.000 Well, the state party chair also there, Dave Schaefer.

00:24:30.000 I don't know.

00:24:30.000 I talked to somebody from Georgia, and they thought everything was going great.

00:24:34.000 Okay, Hawaii, really sweet woman. 0.90

00:24:38.000 Makanelua.

00:24:39.000 Yeah, Laura. 0.63

00:24:40.000 Yeah.

00:24:41.000 Fantastic.

00:24:41.000 She's one of the best.

00:24:42.000 She's one of the younger members on the committee, and she's incredible.

00:24:46.000 Iowa Schaefer.

00:24:48.000 Good man.

00:24:49.000 Steve Schaefer, I think.

00:24:50.000 Moon from Idaho.

00:24:52.000 Yep.

00:24:53.000 And Illinois, DeMonte.

00:24:56.000 Demetria DeMonte.

00:24:57.000 I've known her for a while.

00:24:58.000 Louisiana, Villary.

00:25:00.000 Yep.

00:25:00.000 And Roger was one of the first ones to come out to support Harmee.

00:25:03.000 Good man.

00:25:03.000 Good dude.

00:25:04.000 Lions from Massachusetts, it looks like.

00:25:06.000 Yeah, Jim is actually in a re-election battle on Tuesday.

00:25:09.000 We should help him out then.

00:25:11.000 So Massachusetts, if you're in Massachusetts, you need to get the word out and support Jim Lyons.

00:25:16.000 He has been a lion for patriotism on the committee.

00:25:20.000 Ron Kaufman, who just got, you know, ended his term as treasurer is one of the oldest committee members.

00:25:27.000 They're in a massive battle of grassroots versus not grassroots.

00:25:32.000 I want to get through this really quick.

00:25:33.000 And then we have Lamb from Montana, it looks like L-A-M-M or Lehman.

00:25:38.000 Deborah Lamb.

00:25:39.000 Wonderful.

00:25:39.000 Yeah, great.

00:25:40.000 Hines from North Dakota, wonderful woman. 0.99

00:25:42.000 Nebraska, Blythe, right?

00:25:44.000 Is that Fanshan?

00:25:46.000 Fanchong? 0.53

00:25:46.000 Yep. 0.53

00:25:47.000 Then another Nebraska, Underwood, looks like.

00:25:50.000 Yep, the state party chair who's awesome. 0.81

00:25:51.000 They just took over that state party not too long ago.

00:25:54.000 New York, Chala. 0.89

00:25:56.000 I'm sorry.

00:25:57.000 I can't read that.

00:25:58.000 C-H, starting from New York.

00:26:00.000 I'll get the name in a second.

00:26:01.000 Pollard from Oregon and you from Oregon.

00:26:03.000 No, Pollard's from Oklahoma.

00:26:04.000 Oh, I'm sorry.

00:26:05.000 Pollard from Oklahoma and then you from Oregon.

00:26:07.000 Yep.

00:26:07.000 And Solomon, you is one of the longest tenured.

00:26:09.000 He was part of the removing Michael Steele thing years ago.

00:26:13.000 It was awesome.

00:26:14.000 Kating from South Dakota.

00:26:16.000 Campbell from Tennessee.

00:26:18.000 Brock from Tennessee.

00:26:20.000 Armstrong from Texas, who gave a beautiful speech for Harmeet.

00:26:23.000 Yeah, Robin is.

00:26:24.000 He's a grassroots guy.

00:26:25.000 Grassroots guy, African-American, unbelievable leader.

00:26:29.000 Probably one of the strongest voices that we have on the committee.

00:26:32.000 Incredible dude.

00:26:33.000 Texas really anchored the delegation really well.

00:26:36.000 Lyman from Virginia.

00:26:37.000 Yeah, Patty Lyman is a warrior on the committee. 1.00

00:26:40.000 Morton Blackwell.

00:26:41.000 Love him.

00:26:42.000 Morton.

00:26:42.000 He's a legend, man.

00:26:45.000 Shepard from Vermont.

00:26:46.000 Yeah, and Jay, I can't speak highly enough about Jay.

00:26:50.000 Jay has been, he listens to the grassroots.

00:26:54.000 And in the Northeast, that's tough.

00:26:56.000 That's rare.

00:26:57.000 McArdle from West Virginia.

00:27:00.000 And then my guys from Wyoming, all three of them publicly supported.

00:27:04.000 I love it.

00:27:05.000 Ethorne, Steinance, and Weber from Wyoming.

00:27:09.000 All three.

00:27:09.000 All three are incredible.

00:27:11.000 Frank Ethorne has been the change maker that helped get rid of Liz Cheney.

00:27:16.000 And their entire committee has been.

00:27:18.000 And then Corporal Rennan from Colorado.

00:27:21.000 Yeah, Randy.

00:27:22.000 And Randy is wonderful on the radio lawyer.

00:27:24.000 He's incredible.

00:27:24.000 Now, but just looking at this, Tyler, just really quick before we go to a break, I don't see anybody from Kansas.

00:27:29.000 I don't see any.

00:27:30.000 I see one person from Oklahoma.

00:27:32.000 No one from Missouri.

00:27:34.000 No one from Indiana.

00:27:35.000 No one from Kentucky.

00:27:37.000 No one from Mississippi.

00:27:39.000 Well, Kentucky had a lot of support just more quietly in the bathroom. 0.99

00:27:42.000 Okay.

00:27:43.000 No, but what I'm getting at, and maybe I'm wrong, is there's some deep red states that were supporting Ronna Romney.

00:27:49.000 Yeah, you brought them up.

00:27:51.000 Kansas, Missouri, a lot of the Midwest, unfortunately, you know, New Mexico, Connecticut, the entire state, South Carolina.

00:28:03.000 Yeah, those are the states, North Carolina.

00:28:05.000 Yep.

00:28:06.000 Yeah.

00:28:06.000 Those states all.

00:28:08.000 you know, decided before even Harmie got in that it didn't matter what they were going to do.

00:28:11.000 They were going to vote for Army.

00:28:13.000 People are saying, well, Charlie, how do I get rid of these people?

00:28:15.000 We've been telling you about that for many months, but we're going to remind you they're elected by precinct committee men in most of these states, not all of them, but most of them.

00:28:21.000 And you could become a precinct committee man and you should.

00:28:26.000 We're getting a lot of emails about Mar-a-Lago being dispatched into Dana Point to advocate for Rana.

00:28:35.000 I say this as an enthusiastic supporter for Donald Trump in 2024.

00:28:39.000 I was demoralized by that.

00:28:41.000 And to see that the efforts that I was trying to put forward, it's not just me, it's you.

00:28:46.000 I was just trying to be a conduit for you that there was.

00:28:50.000 You saw that too, right, Tyler?

00:28:52.000 Yeah, I mean, a lot of this is just educational.

00:28:54.000 So what's bothered me the most about the Republican Party, and I think this is what bothers most of you that are listening and watching at home, is that the Republican Party, like the Democrat Party and like every party, kind of operates in the shadows.

00:29:04.000 So if you ask, why do I hate the Republican Party? 0.74

00:29:07.000 It's well, they're always constantly doing crap in the background that nobody knows about. 0.91

00:29:11.000 And then it's, it's antithetical to like what the majority of us want.

00:29:15.000 That's the, if you can oversimplify what's going on here.

00:29:19.000 And this is like the biggest public awareness campaign ever of that happening.

00:29:24.000 Them becoming aware of it.

00:29:25.000 So every single member of the 168 was completely aware that this is how the grassroots felt.

00:29:31.000 And then they did the opposite anyways.

00:29:32.000 Right.

00:29:33.000 So, you know, to me, it was like, hey, all we can do is I told people this is like, I'm not your enemy.

00:29:38.000 You know, a couple of the people were really angry with us because we was real fired up.

00:29:42.000 Because, you know, heaven forbid people contact them and tell them what they think.

00:29:45.000 But, you know, it was, I told them, I said, look, this isn't about, this is a warning.

00:29:51.000 I'm your, I'm your friend.

00:29:52.000 I'm trying to warn you.

00:29:53.000 I'm trying to, I'm just trying to tell you that like you're going to get yanked.

00:29:56.000 Right.

00:29:56.000 And I don't care.

00:29:57.000 Like if the people don't want me anymore, like they can yank me out anytime.

00:30:00.000 I don't, I don't care.

00:30:01.000 And by the way, I'm a big Jeffersonian guy.

00:30:04.000 I think I should only be running one term and replace myself.

00:30:06.000 And we would have a better country if we did that.

00:30:08.000 But, you know, there's some guys that have been in there since H.W. Bush, like in Massachusetts.

00:30:13.000 Ron Kaufman's been there since George H.W. Bush was president.

00:30:17.000 I mean, I was in diapers, you know, you were, you know, I don't know if I was alive.

00:30:22.000 Not even born, probably.

00:30:23.000 So like that's, that's a scary thing that that's where we're at is that we have an RNC that's operating literally 50, 60 years ago.

00:30:32.000 So what are the ramifications then?

00:30:34.000 I mean, look, there's a couple of different things.

00:30:36.000 One is what we've been warning, which is that, hey, people are going to be really upset with you and they're going to become obsessed with this because I know the grassroots.

00:30:43.000 You guys are obsessive about this stuff and you should be rightfully so.

00:30:46.000 They're fired up.

00:30:47.000 We're getting hundreds of emails a minute.

00:30:49.000 Instead of focusing on getting a president elected now, now we're going to have a lot of people focused rightfully on retaking the party.

00:30:56.000 Because again, how can you expect to win the presidency if you don't even have the party, right?

00:31:01.000 So you have to have the grassroots believing in your party.

00:31:04.000 And unfortunately, I'll tell you, I'm one of the youngest members.

00:31:06.000 I'm like, I think I'm the youngest national committee man in the country by a lot.

00:31:10.000 And, you know, I look at this.

00:31:12.000 I go in and nobody asks me questions.

00:31:15.000 Nobody's like, hey, what, what do millennials think or what?

00:31:18.000 You guys run the largest grassroots organization in the country.

00:31:20.000 Like, what are people saying?

00:31:22.000 I don't get any of those questions.

00:31:24.000 And I even told Rana that.

00:31:25.000 She got up and had the gall in front of the 168 to tell them in a members-only meeting, you know, we're doing a youth advisory committee.

00:31:31.000 It's like, well, Rana, I got up and I said in front of everybody, I said, you've never called me about youth issues.

00:31:37.000 And like maybe the right like, I mean, maybe there's something that we could share, but but it's like that, it's like silliness, right?

00:31:45.000 It's almost like it's like living in the Soviet Union where it's like everything is you know, backwards day, it's like upside down, very orwilling, the whole thing. 0.76

00:31:53.000 I mean, I had some, I had a member tell me this was the best midterm we've had.

00:31:57.000 Yeah, it's and that's what the repetition was.

00:32:00.000 And there was a look, I have nothing in common with Bill Palatucci other than my wife's from New Jersey.

00:32:05.000 Bill Palatucci is the National Committee man from New Jersey.

00:32:08.000 He hates Rana.

00:32:10.000 He got up and he hates Trump.

00:32:11.000 You know, you know, again, I have nothing in common with this guy, but he was like, you just got up and just said that this was like the greatest election of our lifetime.

00:32:21.000 And like, so like all of us that are like big, you know, pro-Trump people, we're like, I mean, Bill's right.

00:32:26.000 Like, well, and I mean, like, we didn't have success.

00:32:30.000 Like, why can't we have like a normal conversation about how do we if you want to, if you want to get really fired up?

00:32:34.000 So I'm sitting in the back of the room while the vote is being prepared and they have these treasure reports.

00:32:40.000 They come up and they say, oh, yeah, by the way, we ended the cycle with $14 million cash on hand.

00:32:44.000 I almost stood up.

00:32:45.000 I said, wait, $14 million cash on hand?

00:32:47.000 Why didn't you just do $2 million for Kerry Lake, $2 million from Adam Laxalt?

00:32:52.000 You guys are ending the cycle with money on your hand while Kerry Lake is battling in the courts. 1.00

00:32:58.000 This is unbelievable to me.

00:32:59.000 $14 million cash on hand?

00:33:02.000 You guys should be going into debt.

00:33:04.000 It's worse.

00:33:04.000 So I discovered something.

00:33:06.000 This is going to send, you're going to send your audience off the rails here.

00:33:09.000 I read a 40-plus page election integrity report from the staff at the RNC saying that there were significant issues with the legal strategy that was prepared by the RNC.

00:33:21.000 They did not want that to get out ahead of the election for Rana, especially because Harmeat has been saying these things for years now.

00:33:29.000 And it is mind-blowing stuff that I think we'll be able to get out there because people should be aware of this.

00:33:35.000 Yeah.

00:33:35.000 I mean, the RNC, they basically said to you, the grassroots, the people they begged for money from, yeah, we really don't think very highly of you, and we're going to keep the status quo.

00:33:45.000 The regime continues.

00:33:47.000 I, in good faith, am I going to say this, stop giving money to them.

00:33:51.000 Support the good guys, not the problem.

00:33:53.000 Tyler, keep fighting.

00:33:54.000 Thanks, Charlie.

00:33:58.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:33:59.000 Email me your thoughts as always.

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00:34:02.000 Thank you so much for listening and God bless.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - January 30, 2023

My First Hand Experience at the RNC with Tyler Bowyer

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