The Charlie Kirk Show - August 09, 2022


My Honest Thoughts on Alex Jones


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My take on Alex Jones. We go right into the topic you're not supposed to talk about. And Steve Moore helps us unpack the unacceptable bill from the U.S. Senate that now heads to the House. And, at the end of this program, I talk about a University of Oklahoma wide receivers coach that resigned unnecessarily.

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00:00:07.000 My take on Alex Jones.
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00:00:10.000 We go right into the topic you're not supposed to talk about.
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00:01:40.000 We're about to go into thought crime territory, into a direction that you're not supposed to talk about.
00:01:46.000 Okay.
00:01:47.000 So Alex Jones has been in the news recently.
00:01:50.000 Alex Jones is the founder of InfoWars.
00:01:54.000 He has been smeared by every possible outlet imaginable as being an unfounded conspiracy theorist.
00:02:01.000 Now, let me tell you the first exposure I had to Alex Jones.
00:02:06.000 When I was in third or fourth grade, there were these YouTube videos that would be circulating of Alex Jones sneaking into globalist confabs.
00:02:15.000 Remember these videos, Connor?
00:02:16.000 He'd be going up, you're globalist, you're globalist.
00:02:19.000 It was like, whoa.
00:02:21.000 Who is this guy?
00:02:22.000 And he had all sorts of, let's say, energy and commitment to exposing what was happening around the world.
00:02:36.000 And so, look, Alex, I don't know him personally.
00:02:38.000 I've met him once.
00:02:39.000 He was actually super sweet when I met him.
00:02:42.000 He's not right a lot of the time.
00:02:44.000 He's also not wrong a lot of the time.
00:02:46.000 Sometimes he allows his passion to carry him into a direction that I think he regrets.
00:02:51.000 But let's be very honest.
00:02:52.000 And this is the one thing I think that people get deeply wrong about Alex Jones: is that Alex Jones was totally right about Jeffrey Epstein, and everyone tried to smear him for it.
00:03:05.000 He just was.
00:03:07.000 He was the only person that was talking about Jeffrey Epstein.
00:03:10.000 He was the only person that was talking about the Lolita Express.
00:03:13.000 And now that's all just kind of fact that has now been memory hold.
00:03:17.000 And so look, Alex, you never know what you're going to get, but he's also an entertainer.
00:03:21.000 You must understand that.
00:03:22.000 Part of his whole shtick is to make it fun and to push boundaries.
00:03:27.000 If there was, someone said something to me from Europe, and you know what they said?
00:03:30.000 They said, Alex Jones is a uniquely American figure.
00:03:35.000 I said, what do you mean by that?
00:03:36.000 They said, without a First Amendment, you don't get anyone anywhere close to Alex Jones.
00:03:42.000 I found that to be really interesting, is that it comes with the bombast.
00:03:45.000 It comes with the bravado, but also it comes at sometimes at a deep revelation of truth.
00:03:55.000 And so if Alex Jones were to come on this program, I would tell him exactly the same thing that I would say now, that I disagree with him on certain things.
00:04:02.000 I don't think he handled himself right with the Sandy Hook thing at all.
00:04:05.000 We'll talk about that.
00:04:06.000 But is that reason to smear him and to destroy his life?
00:04:11.000 I've also found Alex Jones to be totally entertaining throughout the years.
00:04:14.000 And at times I find some of his stuff to be distasteful.
00:04:17.000 So what?
00:04:17.000 You don't have to agree with somebody all the time.
00:04:20.000 So Alex Jones, back in a couple of years ago, spoke out about the Sandy Hook shooting.
00:04:29.000 He said something, quote, he said, no one died.
00:04:32.000 The incident was staged.
00:04:33.000 It was synthetic.
00:04:34.000 It was manufactured.
00:04:35.000 It was a giant hoax and completely fake with actors.
00:04:38.000 He's totally wrong there.
00:04:40.000 In fact, he's admitted he was wrong.
00:04:41.000 Shouldn't have said it.
00:04:43.000 It was not true, somewhat despicable, quite honestly, and he shouldn't have said it.
00:04:48.000 Okay.
00:04:50.000 So he said that, and in reaction to it, the Sandy Hook parents then started to, allegedly, to the court documents, started to get harassed because of that.
00:05:00.000 Series of lawsuits then were filed against Alex Jones, saying that because of him, their lives were totally ruined.
00:05:08.000 This trial has been going on and on and on.
00:05:13.000 Now, remember, with Alex Jones, you're dealing with someone that specializes in bombast and bravado.
00:05:18.000 Shouldn't have said it.
00:05:20.000 It was a mistake.
00:05:20.000 He's admitted he was wrong multiple times, but that will not satisfy the media, and that will not satisfy the non-stop pressure campaign against Alex Jones.
00:05:35.000 So, according to the judge in the Alex Jones case, anything you read in the press is hearsay, and even reciting what you read as a means to convey how you made it feel is also hearsay.
00:05:47.000 So, let's play cut 22. 0.85
00:05:50.000 How did you feel about that?
00:05:54.000 Well, when I read the newspaper, there was a $28 million ad buy.
00:05:58.000 Don't say what you read in the newspaper.
00:06:00.000 Just tell me how you felt.
00:06:01.000 Things that you have read are also hearsay.
00:06:04.000 Okay.
00:06:04.000 Because you didn't say them.
00:06:06.000 Somebody else said them.
00:06:08.000 Right?
00:06:08.000 Now, writing is speech.
00:06:10.000 Do not tell the jury anything that came from someone else that you've read or heard.
00:06:16.000 You have to disregard that sentence.
00:06:19.000 Go ahead.
00:06:21.000 So that is the judge.
00:06:23.000 Her name is Maya Guera Gamble.
00:06:25.000 This is the type of judge that Alex Jones was given.
00:06:28.000 Put 23 up on stage.
00:06:31.000 Hashtag stay at home.
00:06:32.000 It could save lives with a blue hair bonnet on.
00:06:36.000 Love is love with the transgender thing.
00:06:38.000 And also, don't stay at the top.
00:06:41.000 Vote for every Democrat.
00:06:43.000 That's the type of judge Alex Jones got.
00:06:46.000 Conflict of interest.
00:06:47.000 You better believe it.
00:06:49.000 Now, look, did Alex Jones do something wrong?
00:06:51.000 Of course he did something wrong.
00:06:52.000 Does that mean that he should now have to pay a $50 million judgment?
00:06:58.000 What kind of precedent does that speak?
00:07:00.000 Does that set?
00:07:01.000 That means that if you say something potentially cruel or could be interpreted as cruel, something offensive or could be interpreted as offensive, you could then go through multiple years of lawsuits and legal challenges that could bankrupt your entire life.
00:07:20.000 Let's go to cut 25, Joe Rogan talking about Alex Jones, play cut 25.
00:07:29.000 Alex Jones is funnier than Andy Kaufman's ever been.
00:07:31.000 Alex Jones is hilarious often.
00:07:34.000 Do you don't think there's entertainment value in him saying he's entertaining?
00:07:38.000 Right.
00:07:38.000 But there's something to that.
00:07:39.000 Like to stop that and ban that.
00:07:45.000 You're not stopping anyone from Anything bad by not having Alex do this entertaining thing about eating his neighbor.
00:07:58.000 You're not saving anybody.
00:08:00.000 Yeah.
00:08:00.000 You know what I'm saying?
00:08:01.000 Like, you gotta, you gotta, like, what are you doing?
00:08:04.000 Like, what is he doing that's so awful?
00:08:06.000 I don't know how to fix any of it.
00:08:09.000 It's entertaining.
00:08:11.000 Like, why is it only acceptable if you have some kind of entertainment?
00:08:14.000 Because there's so many rap videos that you could watch that I enjoy, but they're talking about shooting people and robbing people, and it's everywhere on YouTube.
00:08:24.000 It's so prevalent.
00:08:25.000 Yeah.
00:08:26.000 And somehow that's okay.
00:08:28.000 Talking mostly about social media censorship when it comes to Alex Jones.
00:08:32.000 It is fair to say Alex Jones is the most banned man in America.
00:08:36.000 He is.
00:08:38.000 So this was an intentional campaign, it seemed, to try to bankrupt Alex Jones and shut him up.
00:08:44.000 Maybe it's because he was onto the Jeffrey Epstein thing before anyone else.
00:08:49.000 He even said that in the courtroom.
00:08:50.000 Play cut 20.
00:08:52.000 One of the things you've been talking about on your show is your allegation that government officials are aiding empedophia, child trafficking, and the grooming of children, right?
00:09:04.000 You mean like what Jeffrey Epstein did with cleanse?
00:09:09.000 That video flew on our Instagram.
00:09:11.000 Now look, here's some examples of how Alex gets a little ahead of himself.
00:09:16.000 He very well might be right on this, but he gets a little bit ahead of himself, okay?
00:09:21.000 He doesn't exactly do himself any favors when he just starts to go 10 out of 10.
00:09:25.000 He goes DEF CON 5 immediately.
00:09:28.000 So here's Alex Jones, how everyone in the courtroom is demonic with a cult ideology of the New World Order.
00:09:36.000 Alex, this doesn't do you any favors, man.
00:09:39.000 We're trying to help you out here, and you just keep digging yourself a hole.
00:09:42.000 Play cut 21.
00:09:44.000 It's demonic.
00:09:46.000 They all act demonically possessed.
00:09:48.000 The judge, the lawyers, it's surreal to be around them.
00:09:54.000 And it makes you feel sorry for them because these people are committed to a cult ideology of the New World Order.
00:10:04.000 And they're never going to stop.
00:10:06.000 They're getting rid of all the checks and balances, all of our basic freedoms.
00:10:10.000 They've gutted the border.
00:10:11.000 They're promoting pedophilia everywhere.
00:10:13.000 They are just annihilating the social contract.
00:10:16.000 They are destroying our country by design.
00:10:19.000 They have been turned loose.
00:10:21.000 When I talk about they, I mean the general crazed mob of the left.
00:10:28.000 I find very little I could disagree with there, but just don't attack the courtroom while you still have a pending appeal, Alex.
00:10:35.000 It's not smart.
00:10:37.000 You still have a pending appeal.
00:10:38.000 Here's the bottom line: Alex Jones made a mistake.
00:10:41.000 Alex Jones is a uniquely American character.
00:10:46.000 Free speech, you're going to have all sorts of fun and interesting people.
00:10:50.000 Is it now the precedent where we say you should be able to bankrupt somebody because they went too far?
00:10:56.000 Free speech is messy, everybody.
00:10:59.000 I'm not willing to go there.
00:11:00.000 And it's wrong what happened to Alex Jones.
00:11:03.000 So this is the first one, Cut 26, Alex Jones in court.
00:11:07.000 The day of the shooting, he dives in fully and says it could have been staged by our government.
00:11:13.000 That's what his gut is telling him.
00:11:15.000 Totally wrong.
00:11:16.000 He was simply speculating at this moment.
00:11:19.000 But this is a little bit of, let's just say, of the framework around what ended up got him into the lawsuit, play cut 27.
00:11:30.000 Do you understand now that it was absolutely irresponsible of you to do?
00:11:35.000 It was, especially since I've met the parents.
00:11:37.000 And it's 100% real.
00:11:41.000 As I saw on the radio yesterday, and as I said here yesterday, it's 100% real.
00:11:46.000 And the media still ran with lies that I was saying it wasn't real on there yesterday.
00:11:52.000 It's incredible.
00:11:53.000 They won't let me take it back.
00:11:55.000 They just want to keep me in the position of being the Sandy Hook man.
00:12:00.000 Saying literally he wanted to take it back and they won't give him the opportunity to do that.
00:12:08.000 That they just want to try to smear him as the Sandy Hook man.
00:12:14.000 Look, free speech can be very, very messy.
00:12:19.000 Free speech can have actors and people you might not like.
00:12:24.000 That's the point of having speech.
00:12:27.000 The solution is more speech.
00:12:28.000 The solution is having more people be able to challenge the status quo.
00:12:33.000 You don't like Alex Jones, then come and speak out against him.
00:12:37.000 What I'm failing to understand, though, is Alex Jones says something wrong and cruel, then people harass the Sandy Hook victims' families unacceptably.
00:12:52.000 Why is that Alex Jones' fault?
00:12:56.000 Well, they say it's because Alex Jones spread false information and he should be held liable for that.
00:13:03.000 That's quite a standard, though, isn't it?
00:13:06.000 The standard is that if somebody says something cruel or speculates that something is cruel and then somebody else unrelated does something bad because of that, do you know what that's like saying?
00:13:20.000 That's like saying, why can't we hold Maxine Waters accountable for saying we need to burn it all down or whatever she said?
00:13:27.000 We need to get in their face.
00:13:29.000 Is that now the threshold of civil incitement?
00:13:34.000 It's very, very legal, shaky ground, regardless of what you think of Alex Jones.
00:13:40.000 Regardless, this is very, very compromising legal ground.
00:13:45.000 Play cut 28.
00:13:47.000 I mean, most soldiers, even with instinctive training, have trouble killing other men up close.
00:13:52.000 And it's just, it's just unbelievable. 0.94
00:13:55.000 But I mean, there is this nihilistic, sicko, Satan culture out there where people think it's really cool to talk about hurting kids.
00:14:03.000 And all I like to say is, is, man, I'd like to get my hands on them. 0.72
00:14:07.000 That's all I can say.
00:14:08.000 But this could be staged as well.
00:14:10.000 I mean, the Batman thing had all the signs of it, and more just keeps coming out.
00:14:14.000 And it is crazy to think government could be doing this, but they get fast and furious.
00:14:17.000 Sorry, Siriham was mind-controlled.
00:14:19.000 The police report said he didn't shoot RNFK.
00:14:23.000 And there's so many examples of real mind-control programs.
00:14:26.000 You know, it's hard to believe the government does secret experiments on kids and kills them, but it's been declassified.
00:14:32.000 I don't know.
00:14:32.000 What's your gut tell you about this?
00:14:35.000 My God, I agree with you that there's something more to it.
00:14:40.000 You don't have all of these infinite tap that clustered in this past few years than not having some other factor.
00:14:47.000 Well, notice it didn't happen the last few years, and now that Obama's coming in with gun control, magically these shootings are popping up.
00:14:56.000 Alex Jones was speculating incorrectly, and dare I say baselessly, that this was somehow some sort of a government conspiracy.
00:15:07.000 He was citing other government-type interventions, I think somewhat factually questionable.
00:15:14.000 But you're not allowed to speculate now as a news host?
00:15:18.000 You're not allowed to say, well, this happened before.
00:15:19.000 This is what my gut says.
00:15:20.000 You can't do that.
00:15:21.000 That now means you get bankrupted if you speculate?
00:15:28.000 Is that now the legal precedent?
00:15:32.000 What about the CNN that comes out and they say, oh, yeah, the Hunter Biden laptop, 50 intelligence officials say that the experts, Politico came out, I'm sorry, and said 50 intelligence officials that the Hunter Biden laptop was disinformation.
00:15:50.000 We speculate.
00:15:51.000 That was a lie and they knew it was a lie.
00:15:52.000 Can we hold them civilly accountable for destroying the entire civilization?
00:15:56.000 Can we sue Politico for $40 trillion?
00:16:00.000 Most people will not touch the Alex Jones story because they're afraid of it.
00:16:06.000 The one thing we've learned with Alex Jones, though, is they go after Alex Jones today and then they go after you tomorrow.
00:16:10.000 That's what they did with social media banning.
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00:17:13.000 Joining us now is Steve Moore from the Committee to Unleash Prosperity.
00:17:17.000 Steve, this bill that the Senate passed over the weekend, it's hard to even kind of know where to start with this.
00:17:23.000 I'll just kind of give you, the floor is yours.
00:17:26.000 What are the big points that people need to know about this?
00:17:28.000 Increases taxes, the green energy aspect of it, increase the IRS.
00:17:32.000 Let's start with the climate change part of it.
00:17:34.000 Where on earth is all that money going to go to quote unquote fight climate change?
00:17:39.000 Well, great to be with you, Charlie.
00:17:40.000 You're right.
00:17:40.000 You and I could probably talk for two hours about the horrible.
00:17:44.000 This is truly a dreadful bill, 800 pages long.
00:17:47.000 And I can't think of one good thing in this bill.
00:17:50.000 Truly.
00:17:50.000 I mean, I've read through, not the whole thing, but I've read through most of it.
00:17:54.000 And it is basically just a massive increase in the size and scope of government and the invasiveness of government.
00:18:01.000 And that's essentially the left's agenda.
00:18:03.000 I want to make one point right from the start, Charlie.
00:18:07.000 If you count the $1.9 trillion Biden spent in his first months in office, remember that was the blue state bailout bill.
00:18:14.000 And then that fraudulent $1.1 trillion so-called infrastructure bill, which was really the green energy bill.
00:18:21.000 And then remember, two or three weeks ago, they passed a massive corporate welfare bill that was roughly $200 billion.
00:18:28.000 This one has a price tag of somewhere near, we don't know exactly, somewhere $600, $700 billion.
00:18:35.000 That's $4 trillion.
00:18:37.000 I mean, can you believe this?
00:18:38.000 They're talking now, the left is talking about, oh my gosh, Joe Biden's like the next FDR.
00:18:43.000 Well, if running up record amounts of debt, records amounts of red ink and deficits and record amounts of inflation, then he has been a quote productive president.
00:18:52.000 But I've never seen anything like this in my 35 years.
00:18:55.000 This will bankrupt our country.
00:18:58.000 And let's just pray that we can stop this now.
00:19:02.000 I'm not confident, but maybe there are maybe four or five or six fiscally conscientious Democrats left that might finally say, hey, $3.5 trillion is enough.
00:19:13.000 We don't need another $700 billion.
00:19:14.000 Jeez.
00:19:15.000 Yeah, but where specifically does this environmental money go?
00:19:18.000 It's so unclear in the bill.
00:19:20.000 So I was just doing an article on that before coming on.
00:19:24.000 So first of all, guess what states get most of the money?
00:19:28.000 Probably blue states, like California.
00:19:30.000 Of course.
00:19:31.000 Of course.
00:19:31.000 Shock, right?
00:19:32.000 So California, New York, New Jersey, Connecticut, Illinois, these states that have all gone in for green energy.
00:19:39.000 By the way, it doesn't work in any of these states, right?
00:19:41.000 I mean, you've covered this story, Charlie, the blackout problems and brownout problems in states like California.
00:19:48.000 And so they will get most of the money.
00:19:50.000 And then we have one of the themes we have to really work on, and I hope you will amplify this message because you've got such a powerful voice, is we have developed what I call the climate change industrial complex in this country.
00:20:04.000 That's so true.
00:20:06.000 And it is made up of massive, you know, the big green lobbyists, the Sierra Club, Environmental Defense Fund, and so on, which have hundreds of millions of dollars.
00:20:16.000 And then you have the wind and solar industry, which is completely dependent on these government subsidies.
00:20:23.000 And then you have all these lobbyists.
00:20:25.000 And this industry is now in a trillion-dollar industry that's almost completely funded by government.
00:20:32.000 Geez, that's so true.
00:20:33.000 And we talk about the military industrial complex, the pharmaceutical industrial complex, and now there's just this monolith to go fight climate change.
00:20:41.000 What bothers me so much about this, Steve, and what worries me is how brilliantly duplicitous the climate change agenda is because there is no end goal, right?
00:20:52.000 They will always say, well, we just need another $100 trillion or another $250 trillion.
00:20:58.000 It's never really about the climate.
00:21:00.000 It's actually about control.
00:21:02.000 And so that's one component of it.
00:21:04.000 Can you talk about the tax increases in this bill as well?
00:21:08.000 One other thing to just amplify that message you just made.
00:21:11.000 You know, I'm pretty old.
00:21:12.000 I've been in this game a long time since the mid-1980s.
00:21:15.000 And I remember when we first passed, I think it was around the early 1990s when we first, the first big handouts to the wind and solar industry.
00:21:23.000 It was a five-year program, Charlie, five years.
00:21:25.000 Then five years later, they said, oh, we need to extend this.
00:21:28.000 Another five years, another five years, another five years.
00:21:31.000 And the industry would hardly even exist if it weren't for these massive subsidies.
00:21:36.000 Now, did you, do you ask me about the IRS?
00:21:38.000 What was your question?
00:21:38.000 Well, just about the tax increases, something like that.
00:21:41.000 The corporate minimum tax, and there's all these other ones that are a little unclear.
00:21:45.000 There's four industries that get clobbered, just absolutely clobbered in this bill.
00:21:49.000 The coal industry.
00:21:51.000 Gee, thanks a lot, Joe Manchin.
00:21:53.000 You just trade you're not one of your biggest and tester too.
00:21:56.000 I mean, there's a massive coal industry in Montana.
00:21:59.000 What is he doing?
00:22:00.000 Butte, Montana.
00:22:01.000 Go ahead.
00:22:02.000 Coal, steel.
00:22:03.000 Okay.
00:22:04.000 Well, I thought we wanted a domestic steel industry.
00:22:07.000 And according to the statistics, steel gets cream.
00:22:10.000 Wait, so Sherrod Brown and the other guy from Pennsylvania, they voted against Casey Casey, whose father was governor or something.
00:22:19.000 Yeah.
00:22:19.000 They voted against the steel industry.
00:22:22.000 How is that possible?
00:22:23.000 Yeah, it's like if you had the Idaho senators voting against potatoes. 1.00
00:22:27.000 How stupid is that? 1.00
00:22:28.000 That's exactly right. 1.00
00:22:29.000 Or the Nebraska senators voting against corn.
00:22:32.000 I mean, these are key industries in their state.
00:22:34.000 So then, so I mentioned steel, coal, manufacturers.
00:22:38.000 Gee, I thought, again, I thought we wanted to make things here in America.
00:22:41.000 I thought we wanted to bring our manufacturing industry back.
00:22:43.000 That's what we did under Donald Trump, Charlie.
00:22:45.000 You know that.
00:22:46.000 I helped put together that tax plan that Trump did, which worked brilliantly.
00:22:50.000 We brought all these jobs back, and now we're going to start exporting them.
00:22:54.000 And the other industry is our drug industry that makes these important drugs.
00:22:59.000 And so, you know, I don't get the logic of it.
00:23:04.000 It's basically a transfer of money to our most productive industries to one of our least productive industries.
00:23:10.000 Yeah.
00:23:10.000 And so the one in particular, so how does it actually tax steel and coal?
00:23:16.000 Is it explicit in the bill?
00:23:19.000 Well, this is a little complicated because they've made some changes to the bill in the Senate.
00:23:25.000 We're still trying to figure out exactly what they did.
00:23:27.000 But what the corporate minimum tax does is it affects capital-intensive companies, companies that have machinery and equipment and computers and factories.
00:23:38.000 They don't get to write those off anymore.
00:23:40.000 And so they get really hammered.
00:23:42.000 And so what they're going to do is take those factories out of the United States and they're going to put them in Mexico and China and India and other countries.
00:23:50.000 And the jobs will go with them.
00:23:51.000 So that's essentially a short version of how this so negatively affects American industries.
00:23:58.000 If you believe in made in America, you got to hate this bill.
00:24:02.000 So, and then, of course, the one that's getting all the headlines, and I think actually rightfully so.
00:24:05.000 I don't think people are missing the most dangerous component to this: 87,000 new IRS agents, Steve.
00:24:13.000 Have we ever seen such a dramatic increase in the IRS with one bill at any time in our nation's history?
00:24:20.000 Or any industry for that matter, or any agency that is.
00:24:24.000 You know, what's really, there's so much to be said about this, but one of the most outrageous things about this is, Charlie, I'm sure you've covered this story, but about three or four weeks ago, the Army said there were about 30 or 40,000 recruits short of what we need for our armed services, our soldiers to keep us safe.
00:24:41.000 We're also about 5,000 to 10,000 short in terms of border security agents.
00:24:45.000 Now, wouldn't you think that those are higher priorities than hiring 87,000 new IRS agents?
00:24:52.000 I mean, don't you think securing the national security of our country and securing our border should be a higher priority than putting more money into the IRS?
00:25:01.000 You would think, but the IRS gets the priority with this.
00:25:04.000 So, here's my question, though, Steve: Is that, I mean, why, where are the business groups on the left?
00:25:10.000 This is what I can't quite understand, is that the left has become heavily financed by corporate America, more so, the Chamber of Commerce and all of this.
00:25:20.000 Why are they not stepping up to block this bill?
00:25:23.000 Or are they okay with it because they think they're going to be exempt from this?
00:25:27.000 That's a very good question.
00:25:30.000 I haven't followed what the chambers position is on this.
00:25:33.000 They supported that big corporate welfare bill.
00:25:35.000 I mean, they're the worst of some of this stuff.
00:25:37.000 I mean, they become terrible, but I can't imagine 87,000 new IRS agents excites the interest of the chamber.
00:25:44.000 Charlie, let me make something clear, though.
00:25:47.000 They're not going to go after big corporations.
00:25:49.000 Exactly right.
00:25:50.000 You're right.
00:25:50.000 They're not going to go after Bill Gates, Warren Buffett, Zuckerman, or billionaires.
00:25:55.000 If you're a millionaire or billionaire, you have an army of tax accountants and tax attorneys that are going to protect you from the IRS.
00:26:02.000 The people are going to get killed are people like you and me.
00:26:05.000 Number one, we're conservatives. 0.77
00:26:07.000 Yeah, we'll get audited for sure.
00:26:08.000 They're going to go after us.
00:26:09.000 And second of all, I don't know about you.
00:26:12.000 I don't have the money to spend $75,000 or $100,000 to hire these IRS.
00:26:16.000 Exactly.
00:26:16.000 I mean, the tax attorneys.
00:26:18.000 And that's what they say.
00:26:18.000 I had a tax problem a few years ago.
00:26:22.000 I had a lien, a tax lien of $40,000.
00:26:24.000 We didn't believe that we owed the money.
00:26:26.000 And I talked to the tax attorney and he said, you're right.
00:26:29.000 You don't owe the money.
00:26:30.000 But he said, Steve, you probably should just pay the money because it's going to cost you more to defend yourself.
00:26:37.000 Well, we did.
00:26:37.000 We did take it to court.
00:26:38.000 We won.
00:26:39.000 And the IRS said, oops, yeah, we made a mistake.
00:26:42.000 But they think that they're going to intimidate people.
00:26:44.000 Yeah, but then they don't pay you back for your legal fees.
00:26:46.000 No, not at all.
00:26:47.000 No, absolutely not.
00:26:49.000 So you get to defend yourself $10,015, $20,000 all those sleepless nights and that misery.
00:26:54.000 The IRS still gets paid.
00:26:55.000 They get all their salaries.
00:26:58.000 And they have eventually, essentially, right now, Charlie, we have given the IRS effectively an unlimited budget.
00:27:06.000 So we as Americans have limited budgets.
00:27:10.000 They have now an army of enforcement people.
00:27:12.000 I mean, imagine Yankee Stadium filled with IRS agents.
00:27:16.000 That's how many new people we're going to be hiring to snoop into our tax record. 0.98
00:27:21.000 Yeah, I mean, I've come up with some creative ideas.
00:27:23.000 For example, that it should be required that a percentage of all IRS audits, that agents actually get audited.
00:27:30.000 So they have to get to experience what we have to go through.
00:27:33.000 But something tells me that.
00:27:34.000 It's a good idea.
00:27:35.000 Yeah, we should put that into a new bill.
00:27:37.000 They just have to just pick 500 IRS agents a year, put them through hell.
00:27:41.000 So, Steve, what do you think the actual inflation rate is right now?
00:27:43.000 And why are they saying this is the Inflation Reduction Act?
00:27:46.000 They're well-eased.
00:27:48.000 Yeah.
00:27:48.000 I mean, by the way, I saw a poll the other day that almost no Americans believe that this will reduce inflation.
00:27:54.000 So Americans aren't as dumb as the Congress thinks they are. 0.53
00:27:58.000 And so this will make inflation worse, no question about it, because we know what caused the inflation in the first place. 0.98
00:28:05.000 It was the massive government spending and borrowing.
00:28:07.000 And now they're coming back with another big spending and borrowing bill.
00:28:11.000 So, you know, it was just dousing a forest fire with kerosene.
00:28:16.000 It sure seems that way.
00:28:17.000 Any other parts of the bill we should be aware of?
00:28:19.000 Steve, you said it still hasn't passed the House.
00:28:21.000 Is that right?
00:28:22.000 Yeah, they have, what, a four or five seat majority in the House.
00:28:26.000 So we could, you know, if there's some fiscally conscientious Democrats left.
00:28:31.000 I mean, by the way, Bernie Sanders, he gave the best speech of any of the Democrats.
00:28:35.000 I mean, this is the first time I got raised.
00:28:36.000 Now, he voted for the bill, but he said, this is a fraud.
00:28:39.000 This doesn't reduce inflation.
00:28:40.000 He probably wanted higher taxes.
00:28:42.000 He wanted more, but the point is he was right.
00:28:44.000 This doesn't.
00:28:44.000 But I would say that we need to really focus on the idea that this bill is going to impoverish Americans.
00:28:54.000 We're going to get hammered.
00:28:55.000 It's the middle class that always get, and don't believe for one minute the biggest lie of this administration. 0.51
00:29:01.000 How many times have you heard Joe Biden say, I'm not going to tax people who make less than $400,000?
00:29:07.000 One of the senators had a great amendment on the floor on Saturday saying, okay, then you can only audit people who make less than $400,000.
00:29:14.000 And guess what?
00:29:15.000 Every Democrat voted against that.
00:29:17.000 It's unbelievable.
00:29:18.000 Incredible.
00:29:19.000 All right, Steve, thank you so much for joining us.
00:29:21.000 Committed to Unleash Prosperity.
00:29:22.000 Really appreciate it as always.
00:29:24.000 Thanks, Charlie.
00:29:24.000 Thank you.
00:29:25.000 Take care.
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00:30:40.000 I saw the story on Breitbart.com.
00:30:41.000 It just really bothered me.
00:30:42.000 It's more of a cultural story.
00:30:44.000 Oklahoma coach Kale Gundy resigns after reading hateful term in a team meeting, hateful word in a team meeting.
00:30:52.000 So look, I've been consistent about this.
00:30:54.000 It really upset me when they tried to cancel Joe Rogan for saying rap lyrics and song lyrics that included the N-word.
00:31:01.000 I don't think it's a word that should be used in decent or civil society.
00:31:04.000 But if and when it is used, you also must look at the context and also the punishment.
00:31:09.000 Oklahoma wide receivers coach Kale Gundy resigned on Sunday after reading a quote hateful word off a player's iPad during a team meeting.
00:31:18.000 In an apology letter posted to social media, the coach said, quote, one particular word that I should never under any circumstances have uttered.
00:31:25.000 The coach's nearly 25-year career ended abruptly when during a film review session last week, he saw a currently unidentified player paying more attention to his iPad than to his game film.
00:31:36.000 Gundy then reportedly took the iPad from the student and read aloud what was on the screen.
00:31:41.000 Unfortunately, one of the words the coach read was a racial slur.
00:31:45.000 Gundy then explained, quote, last week during a film session, I instructed my players to take notes.
00:31:50.000 I noticed a player was distracted and picked up his iPad and read aloud the words that were written on his screen.
00:31:54.000 The words displayed had nothing to do with football.
00:31:57.000 One particular word that I should never under any circumstance have uttered.
00:32:00.000 I did not realize what I was reading.
00:32:01.000 And then as soon as I did, I was horrified.
00:32:03.000 Wait a second, why did you resign?
00:32:06.000 You read, okay, you made a mistake.
00:32:08.000 We all make mistakes in life, dude. 1.00
00:32:09.000 Why'd you resign like a little coward? 0.98
00:32:11.000 Oh, did they drive you out? 0.99
00:32:13.000 That's probably what happened.
00:32:14.000 Oh, okay, wait.
00:32:15.000 So all the football players at Oklahoma can use the N-word all the time.
00:32:19.000 They can call each other the N-word.
00:32:20.000 They can listen to rap songs.
00:32:22.000 They can text the N-word.
00:32:24.000 But you happen to try to discipline an athlete because he was being a punk and you read what's on his iPad.
00:32:29.000 You shouldn't have done it.
00:32:30.000 Okay.
00:32:31.000 And then you have to resign in disgrace and your life is ruined?
00:32:35.000 Oklahoma first-year head coach Brent Venables said he accepted the resignation and insisted that those associated with the school, quote, held accountable for our actions and resulting outcomes.
00:32:45.000 What actions, Brent Venables?
00:32:47.000 How about this?
00:32:48.000 Brent Venables, why don't you kick every single kid off of the Oklahoma sooner roster that uses the N-word during training camp?
00:32:56.000 You won't have a lot of players on your team.
00:32:58.000 It's with sadness that I must accept Gundy's resignation, Venerables said.
00:33:03.000 He's dedicated more than half of his life to Oklahoma football and has served our program and university well.
00:33:09.000 Okay, so his whole life is over because in a rush, he grabs some punk's iPad who's not paying attention and reads what he's saying.
00:33:17.000 The kid can text the N-word, but he says it and everyone says he's got to resign.
00:33:23.000 And as I said, I will say it again, of course, I object to the use of the word.
00:33:28.000 But even I don't understand why you have to be punished if you're reading what somebody else wrote.
00:33:33.000 I just, I don't understand it.
00:33:35.000 Your whole life is ruined because of that?
00:33:38.000 It's absolutely extraordinary to me. 0.99
00:33:42.000 Well, his life is over because he is, well, Brent Venables is a coward, that's for sure. 0.98
00:33:48.000 Again, I object to using the word. 0.94
00:33:50.000 I also object to destroying people's lives for quoting what somebody else said. 0.97
00:33:55.000 It's ridiculous.
00:33:57.000 Thank you so much for listening, everybody.
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00:34:01.000 Thanks so much for listening.
00:34:02.000 God bless.
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