On this episode of the Charlie Kirk Show, Andrew Colvet and Blake Neff are joined by former police officer Brandon Tatum to talk about what it's like to be a part of Turning Point USA, a pro-American student organization that fights for the future of our republic.
00:01:19.000You have uh been with us in and around Turning Point USA for many years, speaking at our events, tabling with us, and um I mean you're doing amazing work, my friend, and uh we're just honored to have you in in studio next to the chair, next to Charlie's chair.
00:02:00.000Well, you've uh like I said, you've you know, one of the themes that we've been talking about in a lot of our shows is the fact that there's a lot of left-wing violence, the rise of left-wing violence.
00:02:11.000And you know, you have seen it firsthand doing some of the work with us at TPOSA, and I mean I think it was just in April, as a matter of fact, wasn't that long ago.
00:02:21.000So if I I'm told there may be swear words in this clip, so let's play this B-roll.
00:02:26.000But this was you tabling at UC Davis, uh doing kind of your own prove me wrong in April when a bunch of Antifa thugs came up and basically robbed the whole table, took the tent.
00:02:52.000Um as soon as I got out of the car, they were like, we're being attacked by the Atifa and the phone hung up.
00:02:57.000And then by the time I got, you know, from the car to the campus, they had already reached set up everything and it it looked like everything was back to normal.
00:03:04.000The video team did a really good job at doing that.
00:03:06.000And so I didn't realize what had happened.
00:03:09.000I see Antifa, you know, retreating and they're playing all this music and they're all dressed in black and the police are just standing around doing nothing.
00:03:15.000So I assumed that nothing serious had happened.
00:03:18.000And then they come back and they come back and and the video team was telling me, man, they you know, you know, we we we don't we want to leave.
00:03:48.000If they come back, we gotta be able to defend ourselves.
00:03:51.000Yeah, you guys weren't doing anything wrong.
00:03:52.000You're sitting there having a conversation and engaging in dialogue, and they were just like, instead of punishing the pe the bad guys here, the people that are trying to interrupt the event and just disrupt everything, steal everything, we're just gonna tell you you can't do this anymore.
00:04:10.000They were just setting up the cameras, and they came and attacked everybody.
00:04:14.000And then we hadn't even had a chance to say anything.
00:04:17.000And the funny ironic part of it is that their violence has no filter.
00:04:22.000They claim they support blacks and black and brown bodies and all this stuff, but the black man comes on campus, they don't say what they want to say.
00:04:30.000And nobody's gonna say anything about it.
00:04:32.000And it was it was very troubling to see what they did.
00:04:34.000You know, I I had to, you know, defend a couple people and push a little non-binaries out the way a little bit.
00:04:40.000A part of personally, I wanted to just go one by one and and uh knock them all out, which I probably could have because they were all soft and weak and and cowards.
00:04:49.000But you know, I wanted to do it in the in the spirit of Charlie.
00:04:52.000Charlie wouldn't want to knock these people out.
00:04:54.000Well, maybe he wanted to, but he wouldn't.
00:04:56.000He would have been peaceful and saying, you know, don't touch them, let them go.
00:04:59.000But you know, I I had a little more uh in me on that day, but you know, I kept it.
00:05:04.000You keep one of their bikes and uh one-on-one flying a little bit, you know what I'm saying?
00:05:09.000You know, but they you know, I had to give them some wings there for a little minute, but but it's really worth pausing there on the fact that you know we've had this debate going back and forth the last few weeks where you've had you know the ADL Cato coming out and being like, actually, most violence is is right wing, but something like that, where a bunch of violent goons like disrupted forced essentially the cancellation of an event, attacked a bunch of people.
00:05:32.000That's never going to go into their stats, even though that sort of thing happens all the time, and it's absolutely a form of political violence.
00:05:44.000Said, you see what she they just hit that woman, and it was one you see the person that walked from behind, hit her in the head, so they can identify that person.
00:05:53.000They they went back to a central location to stage when they got on the scene and they left the same way, the right in front of the police station, and nobody got arrested.
00:06:02.000Well, I mean, there's two things that come to mind with this.
00:06:05.000Uh uh, let's let's first play Katie Davis court.
00:06:08.000She's a reporter for the post-millennial.
00:06:10.000She's been to turning point events, um, and you know, she's she's a great person, she's super courageous.
00:06:16.000So she's out in Portland documenting the riots and the vandalism and the thuggery that's going on outside the ice facility in Portland, and she got punched.
00:06:27.000The Trump administration is absolutely correct in deploying federal troops here because Brighton Police has completely abandoned this zone.
00:06:36.000They refuse to go in, and everyone that shows up is on their own.
00:06:40.000So it's kind of like Chaz or Chop was in Seattle.
00:06:44.000They just I guess secede this territory, cede to Antifa, and they just let everything play out.
00:07:00.000So you're at UC Davis, which is a known hotbed for Antifa.
00:07:03.000It's a known hotbed for just far-left political craziness.
00:07:06.000She's up in Portland slash Seattle, and she's describing the same thing where these cops are not getting, you know, and this is this is the whole argument, by the way, for why we need the National Guard, because the cops and the local mayors and the governors are not backing these police officers to do their job.
00:07:23.000So they get they stand back, they get tepid, and they just let these these thugs run roughshod over law-abiding people.
00:07:42.000When they start gathering, you have to start in, you know, integrating yourself in the crowd, making sure they disperse, not letting them build up and create riots.
00:08:41.000There isn't a video that exists of a left-leaning person going to campus doing a speech or tabling or anything like that, and and conservatives or people on the right bludgeoning them.
00:08:53.000You the video don't exist of left-wing nut jobs going in the street and pushing abortion and conservatives are just beating them up and doing all this stuff.
00:09:26.000Because ultimately the the issue, yeah, these politicians are endemic of a larger issue because they're coddling these domestic terrorists, these violent extremists, the actual violent extremists.
00:09:38.000And but they but it is a core, it's a it's a core, it's a feature, it's not a bug of leftism that you result to violence because you believe that it's justified.
00:09:49.000You're not anchored in some deeper Christian truth about that, you know, God's uh God is you know, uh vengeance belongs to the Lord or that government should wield the sword.
00:10:22.000I mean, you are one of the people that can speak firsthand to being in the streets on these campuses, debating them, looking them in the face.
00:10:33.000For the audience that has never done this and probably will never do this.
00:10:37.000I mean, explain how much courage it takes.
00:10:41.000Explain what these people are really like, and you know, just give paint the picture.
00:10:47.000Yeah, I think the the biggest uh level of courage in my personal opinion comes from the young people tabling.
00:10:53.000You know, they're young, they're getting accosted by their peers, and it's a little difficult, more difficult to me than me, because I'm a grown man and I got kids.
00:11:00.000I these these little non-binaries on campus that act the food really don't bother me as much.
00:11:05.000But I do give my hat off to the young people that are doing that day in and day out.
00:11:09.000But it it is very concerning when you go to campus and you listen to the ideology, it's not just the violence, because some campuses are more prone to violence than others.
00:11:16.000You know, when I went to uh University of Texas, everybody was reasonable, but the mind wasn't reasonable.
00:11:22.000Um, out of every kid I talk to, and I do it for about three hours, and we probably talk to I don't know, a hundred kids, uh you know, maybe like 40, 50 of them ask questions that are uh substantive.
00:11:34.000But the problem is is that I'm I haven't been in college since 2009.
00:11:39.000These kids are currently in school and don't know anything about history, they don't know how to critically think, they are being brainwashed.
00:11:47.000And I'm not saying it's all of them because there are some that that have a good faith discussion and they're open-minded, and many of them change their mind.
00:11:54.000But it is troubling because I I'm very concerned that the average kid that goes to college is literally probably going there to get drunk on the weekends and have fun.
00:12:11.000And it's also troubling to hear when you have conservative students come and tell you how they're being treated on campus, how they're being treated from professors.
00:12:19.000It's insane because just not too long ago, when I was in college, between 05 and 09, we had these topics come up about transgenderism and everything like that, and it was very peaceful and reasonable.
00:12:31.000Um, I took the study of sexuality 101, right?
00:12:34.000And they had a trans person come to our class, and it wasn't pushing it down your throat.
00:12:38.000The person literally came down there and said, Here is what I am, here's what I represent, and just so you're aware of what my people go through.
00:12:46.000And nobody was forced into listening, nobody had to go to the class, nobody had to participate.
00:12:51.000And I felt informed because I know nothing about trans people.
00:12:55.000And they were honest because they had another person who was trans, it was a a guy.
00:12:59.000Well, it was a person who was born ambiguous, and the doctor actually picked male, and he probably should have been a female, and he ended up taking his own life, but they were honest about the mental health crisis that's going on, and it was a very fair and balanced uh argument, and therefore you could receive information better that way.
00:14:28.000I think I've been I think I've been denounced a few times.
00:14:30.000I mean, how bad are how bad are the are the ivies?
00:14:32.000Well, it it varies from Ivy to Ivy, and sometimes you know what's funny is sometimes the stereotypes don't even match reality.
00:14:37.000The funniest one for me was I think in 2020, and maybe in 24 too, but I think definitely 2020, Brown has the reputation as the most liberal Ivy, but I think it had the highest Trump voting percentage because it's also just a it's a weird Ivy, I think is part of it.
00:14:51.000So it's just it's gonna get people who are a little different.
00:14:54.000Uh and then like Dartmouth had a reputation as a conservative one, and a good number of notable conservatives have gone there.
00:15:00.000Uh Dinesh Suza went there, Laura Ingram went there.
00:15:10.000A lot of people end up going there because like the Dartmouth Review had Dinesh would write about it in all of his books, and it got very kind of famous for that reason.
00:15:17.000Uh but yeah, the the college cartel, it's uh it's operating kind of at every level.
00:15:22.000And when we just had this news story, now there's kind of a Harvard knockoff drudge report, and I guess they recently hired a professor who Moonlights has a drag queen named I actually don't think I can say the name on this show, but you can look up Harvard Drag Queen professor and you'll find the name.
00:15:39.000Uh and I'm not gonna say anything more.
00:15:49.000But so you have that, there's so many things that go into it.
00:15:52.000You have the fact that it's overpriced because we subsidize it, and when you subsidize the ability to pay for it, shocker, they just make their prices go up.
00:15:59.000And there's also like fake knowledge production going on where yeah, they'll hire this drag queen as some sort of professor of the city.
00:16:10.000Like, are you supposed to be like, you know, you know, sequencing DNA or you know, uh, you know, or even if you're gonna do the humanities, do the humanities.
00:16:18.000Like, I think people would actually be fine with English professors and history professors if they were studying Shakespeare and if they were studying, like, oh, let's make sure we know as much as we possibly can about you know the Roman Empire and the time of Christ, or the English civil war.
00:16:34.000There's things that you can study legitimately, but they've been totally subsumed into this political apparatus where you're only going to hire a history professor if their specialty is something hyper political.
00:16:45.000So they'll talk about queer studies and XYZ, or they'll take a historical topic and they'll make it entirely about race or entirely about gender.
00:16:53.000And most people are not interested in that.
00:16:56.000Most people say this is political propaganda.
00:16:59.000You eventually get professors who are see politics as their full-time job.
00:17:04.000Uh, you know, one of the professors we had at Maryland, uh, she was quoted in Nicole Hannah Jones did that disgusting piece in the New York Times over the weekend.
00:17:11.000She had this gross piece attacking Charlie.
00:17:14.000And one of the things she cites is that there is this professor at the University of Maryland uh who basically was mad because she was on the professor watch list, and she complains, she's like, I was on the professor watch list for doing my job for seeking social justice.
00:17:30.000Wait, no, you're a public university professor.
00:17:32.000Seeking social justice is not your job.
00:18:08.000So this guy's comes in and then he then punches him right there.
00:18:12.000Is that guy wearing like a Crusader shirt?
00:18:14.000I don't know, but he ends up spraying in with mace.
00:18:16.000I mean, and then you've got you got Steven Crowder who's going back out.
00:18:20.000He he's he's not announcing where he's going.
00:18:22.000He's kind of doing like a pop-up version, right?
00:18:25.000Where he's he's putting on a he's got a he's got a vest on, bulletproof vest, he's got about you know 20 security guards, he's got bulletproof glass blocking the way.
00:18:45.000I think we need to enforce the law a lot more, and I think we need to keep speaking out because it's not an equal uh amount of disagreement on both sides.
00:18:53.000These people are radical nut jobs, they're crazy, they're evil, um, they're being propagated to, and they want violence, they want to kill us, they don't want to talk, they don't want to reason with us.
00:19:03.000And and and you know, the the person that uh assassinated Charlie, what did he say?
00:19:09.000Sometimes they don't want to talk it, talk it out.
00:19:12.000They they can't they can't win an argument, so they really kill you than win an argument.
00:19:16.000And you know, the beauty of how God works, and you know, because I know we're running out of time, but um the joke's on them because Charlie's legacy is just gonna get bigger and there's gonna be more people on campus, and there's gonna be more conversations, and people are gonna be emboldened.
00:19:28.000There's gonna be more Charlies, and these cowards are gonna lose at the end of the day.
00:19:32.000But we we do need to keep fighting back.
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00:20:43.000I Blake, I don't know if I've even talked to you.
00:20:44.000One of the biggest episodes we've ever done as a show ever was when we debunked a lot of the lies that have been spreading viral lies on on social media.
00:21:44.000In fact, you know, if if we would have said three weeks ago, Blake, if we would have said that Joy Reed and Michelle Obama and Sheila Jackson Lee and Katanji Brown Jackson were affirmative action picks, we would have been called the racist.
00:22:02.000But now they're coming out and they're saying it for us.
00:22:05.000They're coming out and they're saying, I'm only here because of affirmative action.
00:23:03.000Obama quoted this saying, Oh, well, I don't really, you know, what happened to Charlie is terrible, but you know, he said some bad things about my wife.
00:23:11.000Christopher Hitchens said that it's not even that we don't even have to go to Hitchens.
00:23:15.000We can go to Michelle Obama herself in her memoir, basically says, my school guidance counselor said I didn't have the test scores and grades to get into Princeton.
00:23:24.000And she's like, But I got in on the strength of my essay.
00:23:27.000I'm just gonna tell you, Michelle, if it wasn't.
00:23:30.000If your name was like, you know, Kim Su, you know, like some Asian name, yeah.
00:23:34.000You would not have gotten in with bad grades and bad test scores because of a great personal essay, period.
00:23:39.000And yeah, I have to say Charlie was right, they don't have brain processing power.
00:23:44.000And everybody that believed that he's a racist or that he says something untoward don't have brain processing power either.
00:23:51.000But these people that they're not being honest with us.
00:23:54.000That's not how, in my opinion, how Barack Obama really feels on the inside.
00:23:58.000He has to say that to capitulate to this ideology that he's supporting the black man.
00:24:03.000They know exactly what Charlie Kirk is saying.
00:24:05.000They know exactly because they were saying that they were affirmative action hires and because of affirmative action, all of those things are the reason why they got hired.
00:24:13.000We know for a fact, and if they're mad at Charlie, they should be mad at Joe Biden because Joe Biden said he he put he put Kentanji Brown Jackson in a bad situation.
00:24:22.000That fool could have just simply said, I'm gonna hire the best, or I'm gonna, you know, appoint the best Supreme Court justice I can, the smartest and brightest that we've ever did, and it picked a black woman.
00:24:32.000But instead, that old decrepit man said, I'm gonna pick a black woman.
00:24:39.000He didn't even say he's gonna pick the smartest black woman.
00:24:43.000And and that destroys the credibility of black people.
00:24:46.000Same with Michelle Obama saying the things that she say.
00:24:49.000Well, how about you guys support black people by saying, I'm gonna pick the most qualified person and let you know a black person come forward that's qualified?
00:25:03.000You you are a disingenuous person with with no processing power in the mind to come to your own reasonable conclusions.
00:25:10.000You can look at the breadth of what Charlie has done, the people that he surrounded stuff with, the people that he partnered with, the people that they have raving reviews about him, and it'll tell you right there that he don't have a racist bone in his body.
00:25:21.000Well, I mean, not to mention he I've you know, you've seen this, I've seen this, like how many people that he didn't care about what color your skin you had, he cared about the ideas you had.
00:25:31.000And it's like I just have seen, you know, in my mind's eye, I could see all these instances of Charlie just like hugging, embracing, laughing with people of all backgrounds and colors.
00:26:02.000Show me one institution that got better the more it embraced DEI.
00:26:05.000What one institution that got better that I embraced the EI that got smarter, more competitive, leaner, more productive, and that was better than it was 10 years ago.
00:26:32.000And I I love that he said that because people, some people don't have critical thinking skills on campus.
00:26:37.000They don't they can't think about these things.
00:26:39.000They frame DEI as having to do with just black people.
00:26:43.000Diversity, equity, inclusion, if you look at the statistical data points, it actually affects white women or they have more benefits in DEI programs than any other race.
00:26:54.000And then you have the LGBTQ community that's engrafted in that.
00:26:57.000It's really not helping black people, to be quite honest.
00:27:00.000But ignorant folk think DEI is just black people.
00:27:03.000And the reason why DEI doesn't work is because if you want something to be excellent, you want it to be great, it has to be based on merit.
00:27:25.000What what have you done to prepare for this position?
00:27:28.000And most people who are rational who are successful, that's how they operate their business.
00:27:32.000And and to be quite honest, we don't need a white savior to tell black people that, oh, a little poor black man, let me pat you on the head and let me give you an opportunity.
00:27:40.000No, we are smart enough as black people to earn an opportunity.
00:27:43.000We go to school just like anybody else.
00:27:44.000We want greatness just like anybody else.
00:27:46.000We have the brain capacity, if you want to apply yourself to do very, very well and be successful.
00:27:52.000And so we don't need these programs to try to lift up black people in an artificial way.
00:27:56.000Because what happens is you lift up black people that are not prepared and they make us all look bad.
00:28:20.000I wanted to flag this because I saw it the other day.
00:28:23.000So you mentioned, you know, there's a lot of DEI sex space for women.
00:28:27.000Uh and I was I saw this news the other day.
00:28:29.000So the London London has one of the oldest stock exchanges in the world, one of the most historic.
00:28:33.000And in they have a rule on the London Stock Exchange that to do an IPO, you need to have commit to having at least 40% women on your board.
00:29:02.000They've lost 99% of their IPOs because people are just deciding to IPO in a country where they don't have a million DEI hoops to jump through to start your company.
00:30:29.000I don't know if Katanji Brown have children, but at some point, you you have to be able to be a genuine human being.
00:30:35.000And that's not genuine for you to act like you don't know what a woman is.
00:30:38.000Well, yeah, the fact you get tripped up with that that question just proves the point.
00:30:42.000And by the way, I will say Katanji Brown Jackson, even some of the liberal justices on the court have gotten frustrated with just how insane she is and how poor her judicial skills are.
00:30:52.000So I mean, it's bearing out, and to your point, it's making black people look bad.
00:31:05.000And also just they would always do this, like, frankly, like actually pretty racist thing when when Scalio is still on the court, they would always just say, like, oh, Thomas is just Scalia's puppet or whatever.
00:32:50.000You you know, it's it's these people are so disingenuous.
00:32:54.000And as rich as she is, why do you give a f about a little?
00:32:59.000And that's probably at a really nice hotel that she probably paid thousands of dollars a night, and you're gonna make it make it a point to be upset about something like that.
00:33:12.000And it's harmful to other young black people.
00:33:14.000They're the these ignorant black folks are the biggest threat to young black people because somebody is taking her seriously with all of her accolades with all of the success that she's had, they think that's her issue because she's making it an issue.
00:33:28.000And you cannot function in life if you are crying about a cotton uh display somewhere in a multi-million dollar hotel.
00:33:36.000Like, I just don't understand the logic there, and it's hurtful.
00:33:39.000And I wish these people would be called out.
00:34:05.000Like you know, I look back at like George Carlin and this these comics of like yesteryear, and like they could actually it was like equal opportunity offense.
00:34:15.000And you look, Dave Chappelle, equal opportunity.
00:34:18.000Anybody that's throwing off this woke garbage is actually funny.
00:34:21.000Right, you know, and but it was I think it was a release valve for culture.
00:35:06.000And the reason that it's like this is because he was married to a black woman and he does this skit at some of the black uh comedy studios.
00:35:11.000So it was very funny, but outside of them, you can't find a white person making fun of black people when the those who have done it and have done it well, it's incredibly funny.
00:35:23.000Yeah, well, I I I was just looking up his comedy, but that's that's gonna be Oh, he's fine.
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00:39:16.000Well, these people going straight to hell for the stuff that they're doing, in my opinion.
00:39:20.000Um, I I I think is is very troubling because when you look at the spectrum of you know how many kids are actually trans are going through the it's rarely is it's not that many kids, man.
00:39:32.000You know, my son goes to a massive school, 6A, tons of students there, and I don't think they have a single trans kid at their school.
00:39:40.000Um, and even in this the school that he went to that was a public school, it probably was like one, maybe.
00:40:11.000You know, I I got a I got a four-year-old.
00:40:14.000You think my son know the difference between being a boy and a girl and all of those crazy stuff.
00:40:17.000And if he does have a question about it, as an adult, you have leadership that should tell him, No, you a boy.
00:40:23.000You know, all you gotta do is check when you go to the bathroom, you you you got that one another one.
00:40:27.000So but they they're doing this because if you can get into the subconscious mind of a developing child and you get it, you get these.
00:40:36.000It's the same thing when kids get exposed to sexuality too early.
00:40:39.000It begins to warp their worldview and warp their mind.
00:40:42.000And they drag their stuff on into adulthood where they're they have a distorted view of what sex is and a distorted view of what sexuality is.
00:40:50.000If you can start doing it earlier, earlier in younger people, it may not manifest right away.
00:40:55.000But when they get a little older, it may manifest in a way that's detrimental.
00:40:59.000And before we get out of here, I always want to have like the other reason we care about this, by the way.
00:41:03.000So that clip went viral on its own, but the creator of the show, his name is uh Hamish Steele.
00:41:08.000And one has total yeah, we should be able to throw it up here.
00:42:23.000And and new new studies have come out that have exposed this that conservatives are having above replacement above replacement level children.
00:42:32.000First of all, we're gonna outbreed them.
00:42:34.000Secondly, they are not pro uh procreating, and so the only way that they can push and expand this this ideology, this woke garbage, this evilness, is that's to spawn it via programming, and they know that that our kids are absorbing things at this age like sponges.
00:42:54.000They know that this stuff is programming goes in deep.
00:42:57.000So parents out there, do not put the Netflix on and just let it go.
00:43:03.000And like, you know, because it what it'll do is one show gets done and it'll just it'll put another show up there.
00:43:07.000And then more importantly than that, I think it's time to boycott them.
00:43:10.000I think all of uh put those images up.
00:43:20.000I don't have necessarily a bone to pick per se with Netflix, but it's not a one-off example.
00:43:25.000And so it's run by a bunch of leftists, they probably think that they're doing both sides as them or whatever, but you know, whatever.
00:43:32.000But it's run by a bunch of leftists, and they're they're programming our kids to embrace this garbage, and they need to feel the pain financially if they're gonna stop this.
00:44:01.000If your kid comes to you and say, I don't know what I am, tell them exactly what they are.
00:44:05.000I'm so sick, you know, because it's really the parents that it comes down to.
00:44:07.000First of all, they let their kids watch this garbage, and then they they don't have leadership.
00:44:12.000They want to say, Well, I want to be sensitive to this, and then no, quit being silly.
00:44:16.000You need to focus on what the what the truth is, you need to put God first in your family, and you will have a successful family.
00:44:23.000I'm so sick of parents letting their kids go by the wayside because they're trying to be nice, you know, they're trying to be like, oh, I'm I'm a I'm a open-minded person and parent and and kids need to explore and all of this.
00:44:42.000And and and actually, on our side, I hope we become better and bolder parents to teach our children what the truth is and teach our children was the difference between good and evil.
00:44:52.000But I I am upset that they're targeting children.
00:44:55.000And it's it's not, I always think about things.
00:44:57.000It's not what people do, is why they're doing it.
00:45:02.000They are willing, and and we gotta be willing to cut our memberships with them because they are willing to lose money to push their agenda.
00:45:09.000Do you think Netflix didn't know that people are gonna be upset about that?
00:45:13.000They are willing to lose a lot of money to make sure your kids are indoctrinated so they all become trans in the next 15 years.
00:45:20.000The thing, unfortunately, is the left has proven itself more disciplined in executing boycotts, in executing financial pressure, in cutting things off.
00:45:31.000And historically the right has not just been not been as good at that.
00:45:35.000Like we've you know, we had one kind of really big boycott with uh Bud Light a few years ago.
00:45:41.000And I think to be honest, I think a lot of the right got a little high on itself off of that, and they thought, oh, we can take out whatever we want.
00:45:49.000But most of our other boycotts do not succeed.
00:45:59.000I mean, if you want to good example, it's like the NFL.
00:46:01.000Like I feel every two years or so, the NFL does something super lib, and you people come out and they're like, we're gonna boycott the NFL, go woke, go broke, and then the NFL just steamrolls them.
00:46:12.000The NFL goes, we're gonna go around you and do big bunny because now we're gonna we're gonna appeal to Hispanics.
00:46:17.000And what's really funny, and what's really funny is then I'll still encounter people who will think we somehow won this exchange.
00:46:23.000Like I I'll run into people who think the NFL is circling the drain.
00:46:51.000And uh there's multiple, you know, I would say vectors upon which we need to fight, but we need to in we need our own long march through the institutions.
00:46:59.000Uh Brandon Tatum, we gotta say goodbye to you because you gotta you got things to do.
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00:48:34.000And we have two guests from our field team.
00:48:37.000Everybody is talking about uh the field team and what the great work that you guys are doing.
00:49:09.000Yeah, so essentially I oversee all of the college staff, all of the chapters, all of our field representatives, all of the regional managers, all of the operations uh that goes into the field program that Charlie built over so many years, over the last 13 years.
00:49:23.000Um, and where we have a presence on so many of these college campuses across the country.
00:49:27.000Uh we have a big part in those tours that Charlie loves so much.
00:49:31.000Um, all of the things that we were doing uh these last few years on campus with the prove me wrongs with these evening events.
00:49:37.000Uh that's a lot of what I do is just travel the country and work one on one with these students.
00:49:41.000Uh get to see it firsthand what it's like being on a college campus as a conservative uh before Charlie's assassination and now and the the big difference is there.
00:49:50.000Yeah, and I mean people have been asking about this.
00:49:53.000We're not doing the the open air prove me wrongs, right?
00:49:59.000And and that's for security reasons, and there's just a lot, I mean, emotionally for all of us that goes into that, and you know, I I'm candidly I'm I'm relieved that we're not.
00:50:08.000Uh, but like, secondly, we are still doing the evening events.
00:50:57.000Yeah, I mean, I've been to more of these tour stops than I honestly can count.
00:51:03.000And coming back to Utah, um, there's definitely some some closure there, and being that, and you know, for context, I was not at UVU that day.
00:51:11.000Um, but coming back to Utah and seeing so many of our students who are there at Utah Valley and seeing them be able to get that closure um and having a room that is larger than a lot of our conferences.
00:51:22.000I mean, it was larger than YWS, larger than you know, some of our student action summits that we've done, much larger than CLS, you know, it's six times over than the largest chapter leadership summit that we've ever done.
00:51:33.000There's something about that, that feeling of standing on the floor and seeing so many people coming out three weeks later after a man was killed in the same state, just an hour and sun change away, and saying, I'm not afraid.
00:51:47.000I'm going to come out, I'm gonna show face.
00:51:53.000Club America is our high school brand at TP USA.
00:51:57.000And I will never forget this, especially because of obviously obviously what happened uh just a few weeks later.
00:52:02.000But we were in Aspen, we were talking with donors, and Charlie was like, We're gonna have we're gonna get a uh Club America at 35,000 high schools.
00:52:13.000And I was like, Charlie, um there's only 23 or 24,000 high schools.
00:52:20.000You know, Andrew Cypher, who's the VP of a field, great guy, was like, um, could we maybe like 10,000 or whatever?
00:52:28.000Like, you know, just because he's freaking out because he's like, I know how hard this is gonna be.
00:52:31.000And Charlie's like, fine, all right, fine.
00:52:33.000You know, he because Charlie was always pushing us and pushing us and pushing us more and more and more.
00:52:37.000And and so within days of what happened, you know, finding out that there's a hundred and twenty thousand inquiries, about fifty percent of which to start new chapters, about fifty percent, maybe more, are high school, Club America.
00:52:56.000See, there are two types of high schools in this country high schools that have Club America chapters and high schools that will soon have Club America chapters.
00:53:29.000I remember when Charlie sat right here uh and announced that we hit 1,000 chapters back in 2023, something that we thought was uh just a monumental goal when we first launched the program in 2022.
00:53:42.000And I think he'd be really proud to see the progress that has happened um despite the tragedy.
00:53:50.000He put jet fuel behind it by being living his life in such a wonderful way, being so courageous and so stalwart in believing That we can impact the next generation.
00:54:02.000By the way, I just want to remind I mean you were you've been with us long enough where you even saw when people thought it was still ridiculous that we could reach the next generation.
00:54:30.000Yeah, they had probably you're probably right.
00:54:31.000It was like these kids had been probably seeing being seen Charlie videos on social media for years and years, and all of a sudden they come into high school or college, and it was it was like a the turnover, you know, 18 to 21 happened, and it was they were they were ready.
00:54:47.000And it was also a generation when we're talking about the college kids that had been so beat up their high school years were wrecked by COVID.
00:55:58.000I I just clocked in because I called off and I I moved around my schedule so I could be at that event.
00:56:04.000And then she asked us for a picture, all of us that were there, uh, Andrew and myself and the tourist team.
00:56:09.000And the it's just so weird to think how much this organization and this movement has meant to people since Charlie's passing.
00:56:18.000I and I think it's something to do with being too close to home, being a little too close to it to realize to truly realize the impact that we've had that this organization has had that the students have had that Charlie has had in the last decade.
00:56:32.000Uh it it is really I I mean it it's earth-shattering.
00:56:37.000I I completely relate to that, by the way.
00:56:40.000Because I and I would tell Blake this, like I had to keep recalibrating how famous he was becoming.
00:56:45.000Because I was I was always like, I don't know, like a year behind in my internal clock of but then I would take him somewhere public and I was like, dude, you're like a beatle.
00:56:54.000It shocked me the most when we were doing the whole uh Nebraska push.
00:56:58.000And so we went on campus during the tailgating before uh a Huskers game, and just hundreds of people mobbing around him.
00:57:06.000And of course it helped a lot that they wear red anyway at the University of Nebraska.
00:57:10.000So it's like everyone's wearing red stuff for the Huskers game, and they're Charlie, Charlie Charlie chance just a giant convoy.
00:57:17.000Well, and you got those chants at Utah State.
00:57:31.000That I think that's the best way to put it.
00:57:33.000There's hope in the air in uh amongst young conservatives.
00:57:37.000They want to get involved, they want to do something.
00:57:39.000They do not want to sit idly by why a man died.
00:57:42.000Well, I want to I want to I want to talk about um the tour stops that are coming up and the future plans for high school uh with Club America because we have a real big real big tour that's still ongoing, lots of new stops coming up.
00:57:56.000So, guys, I am just so excited uh by the tour.
00:57:59.000So tell us what what have we done already?
00:58:01.000We did Megan Kelly, that was the first one.
00:58:51.000Turning Point USA since January of 2016.
00:58:54.000I remember someone just showed me a clip.
00:58:56.000We were at the RNC in Cleveland in 2016, and Charlie said, let's paint some signs, let's get out there and make sure that people know that limited government principles are represented.
00:59:07.000So we took to the streets of Cleveland and started chanting big government sucks, and we got a lot of people's attention, and uh it's amazing to see how far we've grown since then.
00:59:17.000And you you you have seen many iterations of this movement of what Charlie has built here, and so you are a keeper of history, and and I uh you both are and I think that's important because we lost Charlie.
00:59:35.000And I I've I've told this to the team.
00:59:37.000It's like there's just no replacing that experience that we've all had with an American legend, and to see it up close, to see how he operated, see how we would inspire the troops, how we would motivate the staff, and how we would speak to students.
00:59:52.000And you guys are keepers of that legacy uh in a really, really important way.
00:59:56.000And I just want to encourage you that you know your jobs are more important than ever, and I know you know that.
01:00:01.000So why why don't uh I'm gonna go high school, then college, okay?
01:00:06.000So 1500, we I mean, you have tens of thousands of applications.
01:00:11.000Are we changing the way we're doing this?
01:00:12.000Have has everybody been uh spoken to and communicated with?
01:00:16.000Like how are we so if you're out there in the audience and your your you know, daughter or son or grandkid has reached out and inquired to start a chapter, what can they expect?
01:00:25.000What will happen in the in the days ahead?
01:00:27.000Our field team, our representatives have been hard at work just calling, uh picking up the phone, talking to hundreds of students every single day who want to get involved.
01:00:38.000And if you filled out a get involved form on our Club America website or on TPSA students website and you're in high school, expect a phone call from your field representative.
01:00:46.000They're gonna tell you how to get your Club America chapter started and set you up with everything that you need to hit the ground running on your campus.
01:01:20.000And by the way, that's really powerful because we have multiple from a lot of these schools, because you know, if there are any trolls that are in or whatever other people that shouldn't really be starting the chapter, maybe they're good at well-intentioned, but they just really maybe shouldn't be the president or vice president of a chapter.
01:01:33.000We're gonna find that out in this process, right?
01:01:35.000I mean, we're gonna we're gonna get the best.
01:01:36.000It's really amazing how we're able to bring people together.
01:01:39.000We have students that we multiple from a single school that are reaching out.
01:01:43.000Maybe they didn't even know each other, but they both loved and admired Charlie and want to step up.
01:01:47.000So we're able to bring these students together to make lifelong friendships.
01:01:53.000That's how when I got involved when I met Charlie, the people that I met through Charlie, I'm still very close friends with today.
01:02:00.000It's changed the trajectory of my life and of my career.
01:02:02.000And so we hope to do that for you if you're a high school student looking to get involved for the first time.
01:02:10.000When you step out and you join this movement, you will your life will never be the same for the better because you're something you're gonna be part of something that's much bigger than yourself.
01:02:21.000So it's a little different on cat college, just so you know, like we've got all these tens of thousands of applicants.
01:02:26.000Well, we've pretty much saturated the vast, vast majority of college campuses, so you're not gonna get like a huge we'll get some growth from it.
01:02:33.000But really, like that top line number, like turning point had already kind of hit a really big point on college campuses, but we're gonna plug these people in, maybe door knock, whatever.
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01:05:25.000We have the great Senator Mark Wayne Mullen on the show from the state of Oklahoma, who uh I don't know if he I think he pulled over on the side of the road to do this.
01:05:43.000I uh you know I I just want the audience to know uh what kind of guy this is on the other end of this uh this uh call here.
01:05:51.000And when everything went down, one of the first calls I got, and it was just so sincere and so sweet and kind was uh this senator right here from the state of Oklahoma.
01:06:00.000So and I saw you as well at the White House when JD was hosting the show and vice president JD Vance was hosting the show, and uh you just came by to say hello and give us hugs and tell us you were with us.
01:06:38.000Well, listen, I uh we we've got your back.
01:06:41.000I know you got ours, and and uh you've been an important voice though in the this whole year legislatively.
01:06:48.000I mean, you've been acting as a liaison between the House and the Senate on the BBB, and you've been you've working with the White House, and you've been getting messaging out.
01:06:56.000I I wanted to bring a lawmaker in to talk about this shutdown.
01:06:59.000And you it seems it seems like this central debate here.
01:07:02.000You've got CNN saying, oh, we're it's not true.
01:07:05.000We're well, you know, they don't uh Democrats aren't fighting for health care and Medicare uh for illegals, uh, or is it uh let me see, Medicaid eligibility for for illegals.
01:07:15.000Uh and you put out a tweet basically debunking this that you're saying it is, and we're not gonna budge on it.
01:07:21.000Tell us, tell us what the truth is, Senator.
01:07:25.000Um, and I'll I'll actually read it for you once we get it pulled up here.
01:07:29.000Um And their CR, they strike subsection, and the subsection they strike is subsection 71109, alien metal Medicaid eligibility.
01:07:40.000They're striking it out specifically of the OBB.
01:07:45.000Now what they're saying, the slide of hand that they're saying saying here is they're saying, well, we're we're not we're not giving it legals.
01:07:52.000Well, what they're saying is since we're not given illegals is because Biden technically deemed them or gave them parole.
01:07:59.000And since he gave them parole, they're saying that they're not illegal.
01:08:02.000Well, they're 100% it entered this country illegally.
01:08:15.000Um and uh in the last four years, Biden paroled them without even looking at their status.
01:08:22.000And what that what uh OBBB did was cut the waste and fraud out of it, they were not giving those individuals uh status of legal status to be eligible for Medicaid, which is why that says alien Medicaid eligibility.
01:08:38.000And so when you look at their subsection, it completely strikes it.
01:08:41.000So they know exactly what they're doing.
01:08:43.000They're lying to the American people, and this is why that and this is right here is why that they're saying they want the government open for four years for four weeks for 1.5 trillion dollars.
01:08:56.000It basically undoes uh undoes all the waste and fraud we cut out of OBB because they reinstate it.
01:09:03.000And and and they want it done, they want to hold the American people hostage for four weeks, and that's not permanent open the government, that's just for four weeks.
01:09:21.000To put that in perspective, it's 900 uh that's that's six hundred billion dollars above the NDAA, which is our def National Defense Authorization Act.
01:09:31.000That's a nice six hundred billion dollars above our defense budget.
01:09:38.000People don't understand how big of a line item health care is in our federal budget and how much of our insane debt is driven by health care spending.
01:09:48.000And so, I mean, this so they lost this uh fight during the BBB, right?
01:09:53.000We ended up passing that, getting it accomplished, and our side candidly wanted even more cuts.
01:09:59.000And so here comes Democrats saying, Oh, even the cuts you got, we're gonna shut down the government for it.
01:10:04.000And so then you've got Trump who's brilliantly trolling Hakeem Jeffries and Chuck Schumer with these uh pretty silly memes.
01:10:13.000It is just in general so enraging where they yeah, they pull this scam where, oh yeah, we're not giving health care to illegal immigrants because under the Biden administration, we used this scam to just make millions upon millions of people technically legal because we gave them all temporary protected status, which once your country's on temporary protected status, they never ever go off.
01:10:32.000Well, it and we by the way, they gave up the goat when we during their own primary.
01:10:41.000Raise your hand if govern if your government plan would provide coverage for undocumented immigrants and the like in the plants in the audience are like everybody clap, clap.
01:10:56.000I I am a little grateful that like the peak insanity of you know, 2018 through 2022, basically, 23, is gonna be the gift that keeps on giving.
01:11:05.000Because thankfully we have cameras and the you know the media is a lot more decentralized than it was even a few years ago.
01:11:12.000And they're just they can't live down the fact that, oh, they can say we don't want health care for illegals.
01:11:16.000Oh, then why did you all raise your hands to do it?
01:11:18.000And why did the entire audience applaud wildly?
01:12:10.000But what you support does bring back funding for emergency Medicaid to hospitals, some of which does pay for undocumented immigrants and people who don't have health insurance.
01:12:22.000And also there is this provision, and it's not about undocumented immigrants, it's about people with asylum seekers and people with temporary protected status, et cetera, et cetera, but about their ability to get Medicaid.
01:12:59.000Well, Jake, I was on the show right before that, uh, right before Jeffrey came on, and Jake actually agreed.
01:13:05.000He was like, Yeah, you're you're you're accurate.
01:13:07.000So when he talked to me, he he knew it was right.
01:13:09.000But here's a here's something that people aren't even talking about.
01:13:12.000The 1.5 trillion dollars that they're wanting to add back in isn't even it doesn't have anything to do with the funding for discretionary spending.
01:13:20.000The 1.5 trillion dollars that they're wanting to put back in was out of reconciliation.
01:13:25.000Reconciliation only dealt with mandatory spending.
01:13:27.000So Medicaid and Medicare and Social Security isn't involved in the funding bill that we're fighting for right now that's currently shut down.
01:13:35.000It's it's the hippo the the craziness is coming out of the Democrats right now by shutting down the government over something that doesn't have anything to do with the bill, then wanting 1.5 trillion dollars.
01:13:46.000And then the under then to understand that Andrew, these same Democrats voted for this exact same bill, the exact same language a year ago to keep the government open.
01:13:58.000We did another CR, continued resolution, so it's the same thing in January before President Trump was in office, and then 10 of them, including Chuck Schumer, voted for this bill in March.
01:15:17.000Now the administration is playing offense, and they're saying, hey, guess what?
01:15:21.000Russ vote is gonna go clear some dead wood while we got this shutdown going, because we're gonna find out what agencies are really doing the bidding of the U.S. taxpayer.
01:15:32.000And look, we have zero uh dollars coming into the federal government right now because the Democrats shut it down.
01:15:37.000So what Russ Vote is working diligently on is examining how we can fix this mess to ensure that critical funding continues, that we can get people paid, but the Democrats are making that very difficult.
01:15:49.000And that's why the president put out a statement this morning saying that we're gonna start looking across the board at layoffs and at agencies that we feel do not best serve the American taxpayer that may need to be halted or tempered or permanently cut.
01:16:03.000All right, so Senator, what can be done?
01:16:16.000When the when the when the Democrats succeeded power and gave it to President Trump to force the shutdown, President Trump essentially gets to go around and deem every employee essential or non-essential.
01:16:27.000Now, if you remember in 2017, 2018, and 2019, we went in a shutdown because of Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer, um, the president said if you're not deemed essential, then you're fired because government should only be hiring essential employees.
01:16:41.000So now that Russ gets to go in, Russ Oak gets to go in and say you're essential or non-essential, we get to clear the fat out of these agencies.
01:16:49.000During Biden's uh tenure, which was during COVID, and none of these employees were showing up for work, they grew most agencies at a hundred and a hundred and fifty percent.
01:17:00.000That's that so to say we're gonna cut ten percent of the employee workforce uh by cutting the bloated federal government is nothing.
01:17:08.000It's easily done, and this can be done within a matter of weeks.
01:17:11.000So the longer the the the Schumer shutdown continues because they can open the they could open the government in five minutes if they wanted to.
01:17:18.000And the longer it continues, uh the more fat we get a cut out of the federal government.
01:17:22.000So it's a win-win for the Republican Party either way.
01:17:25.000Well, Senator, thank you for walking us through that in exposing the Democrat lie there because it's just so blatant.
01:17:46.000We've got some old Charlie tweets that are worth throwing up because it it's funny how much you can actually see Charlie's fingerprints on this current, you know, the current genre.
01:17:57.000He's left his mark on the Charlie always wanted us to do.
01:18:02.000So you got Russ Vogue going in saying, I'm gonna we might permanently close some of these agencies.
01:18:06.000Yeah, yeah, let's put up, let's put up two eighty.
01:18:08.000This is just a tweet from 2019, so much younger Charlie.
01:18:12.000We had the temporary the limited shutdown that we had with uh Trump, and he was saying we should use the shutdown as a chance to shrink government permanently.
01:18:20.000And he throws out a few things privatized TSA, privatize air traffic controllers, abolish the IRS, remove non-essential workers.
01:18:26.000If they weren't essential, they shouldn't be there in the first place.
01:18:29.000Now, I don't know if Charlie would say the exact same thing today.
01:18:32.000Um, but it shows the spirit of things that okay, if you're having a government shutdown, you're having yeah, the trench battle over what gets funded, but you should always see it as an opportunity to achieve long-term goods.
01:19:00.000If he's there, because he was very excited, but I can start providing.
01:19:03.000So basically I want to so we put this in the title of the show, and so I'm a little annoyed that we're just getting into to it now.
01:19:09.000But basically, there is I mean if this ad gets up, an NYPD cop on sick leave snuck into the writer cup in full tactical gear, claimed he was on Trump's security, and somehow this is a so like you texted me this, and obviously we've lived through this like terrible experience that we've all just lived through, and you texted me this, you go, they're gonna get him killed.
01:19:49.000Apparently, this guy's on sickly, but he's well enough to go sneak into the writer camp and tactical gear.
01:19:54.000Yeah, have full tactical gear, guns, everything.
01:19:56.000And he got through Secret Service by telling them I'm just a part of the security team, which is like just the craziest thing.
01:20:02.000Like, how does that like what the heck?
01:20:05.000And I will tell you, there is like a a s a scary thing.
01:20:08.000We actually corrected this at the at you know, where we're at, because you know, you get these security guys, and you're like, are they our security?
01:20:18.000So you gotta have like markers to like indicate you gotta have these secret markers that you can look at and know who they are.
01:20:23.000But this is really terrifying, and I will tell you that when we were doing campaign stops with Trump, I remember going, there was a couple where I was like, This is really this is not tight security.
01:20:32.000Well, at one of the events last year, uh, I believe it was the believers event that Trump spoke at, I snuck in like a back door with a bunch of food for Charlie and somehow just like got in.
01:20:42.000That's allegedly similar one when we did our event yeah, yeah, in DC for the uh the inauguration.
01:20:50.000There was like a big security thing to go through, and I don't I to this day don't know exactly what happened, but I took some other staircase down and never went through security, and then I was I was in the event and I was just I'm just not gonna mention this to anybody.
01:21:03.000Yeah, well, if I I've been told reliably that it's gotten a lot better.
01:21:06.000That said, there's some troubling indications that maybe it hasn't.
01:21:12.000They also had, well, at his Virginia golf course, a guy got through with a Glock and they didn't catch him.
01:21:19.000Trump wasn't there at the golf course, but like a guy with a with a concealed carry permit.
01:21:23.000And so he got through somehow and they didn't find it till afterwards.
01:21:27.000And then there was also a Secret Service agent at the UN that fell asleep with his gun, like ready to go, fully loaded, and then left to go to the bathroom.
01:21:36.000And left, like there's a picture of it.
01:22:12.000And I remember the UN story got some pub, because that was like, you know, unga, as they call it, and the the what exactly happened there again?
01:22:20.000It was like the the he was going down some escalators.
01:22:23.000The escalator he's going up and then suddenly broke at the exact time that like he was going on it.