The Charlie Kirk Show - November 19, 2022


Never Give Up, Never Surrender with Catherine Engelbrecht


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After the dust has settled in the midterms, is it time to give up? or is it still time to go all in on the fight for freedom? In this episode of The Charlie Kirk Show, host Charlie Kirk dissects the results of the mid-terms and asks if it s time to celebrate or give up.

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00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, today in the Charlie Kirk show, we dissect where are we now that the midterm kind of dust is settling?
00:00:07.000 What does it mean for the country?
00:00:09.000 And is it time to give up?
00:00:11.000 Is it time to despair?
00:00:13.000 Look, I know a lot of you are upset.
00:00:15.000 I encourage you guys to check out this episode and email me your thoughts.
00:00:18.000 As always, freedom at charliekirk.com.
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00:00:43.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.
00:00:45.000 Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campuses.
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00:01:25.000 I know a lot of people out there are scratching their head and they say, what happened?
00:01:29.000 So many people were predicting this overwhelming red wave.
00:01:34.000 And in some ways, it did manifest as far as the congressional popular vote.
00:01:39.000 Florida is redder than ever before.
00:01:41.000 Ron Johnson won.
00:01:42.000 JD Vance won.
00:01:43.000 Ana Paulina won.
00:01:44.000 Arizona actually has more conservative Republicans going to the House of Representatives than Democrats. 0.99
00:01:51.000 First time in a couple years, that is the case.
00:01:54.000 More conservative legislature in Arizona, California, and New York.
00:01:59.000 But the question is, what exactly happened?
00:02:01.000 And the answer is that while we were surging in the polls, it was an insurmountable hill for many of us to overcome because while Democrats, while we were worrying about messaging and polling and how we're trending and are we getting hot for election day, Democrats were scooping up and capturing ballots.
00:02:20.000 The game has changed and it has changed permanently.
00:02:24.000 Now, many of you say, Charlie, we shouldn't play the game.
00:02:27.000 And saying that we shouldn't get engaged, we shouldn't get involved.
00:02:31.000 We got to get rid of mail-in ballots.
00:02:32.000 We have to have one-day voting, get rid of machines.
00:02:35.000 I completely agree with all of that.
00:02:37.000 I hope we can get that done. 0.77
00:02:40.000 But in states now where there's going to be mixed control, states like Nevada, states like California, you're going to have to play the game.
00:02:49.000 Now, it's very interesting about how the left, they get drop boxes at every one of their convenient locations, college campuses, urban areas.
00:02:58.000 Why don't we get drop boxes then at construction sites, churches, gun shops?
00:03:07.000 You see, if you look at the national popular vote, the national popular vote of where did Americans vote when it came to giving the U.S. House of Representatives?
00:03:20.000 Republicans received 53.6 million votes.
00:03:24.000 Democrats received 49.7 million votes.
00:03:28.000 4.4 million Americans voted for Republicans to go control the House of Representatives more than Democrats.
00:03:38.000 4.4 million.
00:03:40.000 Now, we do not have a national popular vote, nor should we.
00:03:46.000 Depends on maps.
00:03:48.000 It depends on how you allocate power and authority.
00:03:52.000 Democrats have now used the gerrymandering process, and Republicans used to dominate in this, but now Democrats are in it completely and wholeheartedly.
00:04:00.000 And now they know that from a popular vote standpoint, they were going to get eliminated and obliterated.
00:04:08.000 So they raised records amounts of money.
00:04:12.000 And I will say this: Democrats raised so much more money than Republicans this cycle.
00:04:16.000 Why?
00:04:17.000 Well, they do represent young professionals.
00:04:19.000 They represent tech CEOs.
00:04:21.000 They represent Silicon Valley oligarchs.
00:04:24.000 It's easier for them to play money.
00:04:26.000 Easier for them to raise money and deploy money, I should say.
00:04:30.000 And conservative Republicans struggled in that regard.
00:04:34.000 Also, of course, Democrats represent crypto scam artists.
00:04:40.000 You have to wonder: would the Democrat flow of money have been so generous if FTX and Sam Bankman Freed, the con man, wouldn't have been dishing out money anywhere between $27 to $40 million deployed from that entire scam operation of FTX.
00:05:04.000 And so as we look at the midterms, as we look at the world that we are now entering post-midterms, we're able to take a step back and say, you know what?
00:05:16.000 It's a good thing we control the House of Representatives.
00:05:20.000 It's a good thing we're retiring Nancy Pelosi, and we're thankful for that.
00:05:25.000 It's a good thing that Florida is now this deep red state.
00:05:28.000 It's a good thing that Robert Francis O'Rourke will not be the governor of Texas or Stacey Abrams will not be the governor of Georgia.
00:05:35.000 But I can't help feel a little slighted and upset on many different reasons because we now have to have a collective agreement.
00:05:46.000 The biggest takeaway of the 2022 realignment is we are no longer participants in elections.
00:05:56.000 These are not elections.
00:05:57.000 This is no longer about voters.
00:06:00.000 This is about ballots.
00:06:03.000 I will fully acknowledge and admit I thought that we were going to have a restoration of elections and voters post-COVID.
00:06:13.000 I thought that we were going to have some sort of realignment where people were going to be back into the old voting behaviors, and that is completely wrong.
00:06:22.000 And then by broadcasting that we were going to vote on game day, Maricopa County planned the ambush, as we call it, the ambush of anywhere between, I think new estimates show one in four machines were malfunctioning on Election Day in Maricopa County, lines of an hour and two hours.
00:06:41.000 And you could just imagine Democrat operatives screaming with joy and glee that our voters were unable to cast ballots on Election Day because they say we already banked all of our votes.
00:06:59.000 We know the votes that we are going to get.
00:07:02.000 It is a change in philosophy.
00:07:06.000 It is a change in how we do elections all together.
00:07:12.000 You see, this has been a learning process for a lot of us, and definitely myself included.
00:07:17.000 I wanted to believe elections were the same way when I first started the volunteer in the suburbs of Chicago.
00:07:24.000 Knocking on doors, trying to persuade people what candidate is more appealing, the people that are able to go into the debate and have dialogue.
00:07:33.000 And the takeaway from 2022 is that stuff might matter, might matter a little bit, but John Fetterman is about to be a U.S. senator.
00:07:43.000 Katie Hobbs is leading in the vote count.
00:07:46.000 And I hope some of these lawsuits actually start to get filed soon for the voters' suppression of what's happening in Arizona.
00:07:52.000 And that fight is far from over.
00:07:54.000 There needs to be a hand recount, and hopefully a judge will step up with some courage. 1.00
00:07:57.000 But Katie Hobbs is currently leading in the vote count. 0.75
00:08:01.000 It's because the Mark Elias of the world, the schemers, the Alinskyites, they recognize and realize that we Republicans, and I will say again, me, myself, I don't even have to blame anybody else, but I'll blame myself, are still living in a 2010 world where ideas really matter.
00:08:22.000 Now, they mattered a little bit. 0.54
00:08:24.000 It got us the House of Representatives back despite all of this game, the scheming.
00:08:29.000 We still won back the House narrowly and barely.
00:08:32.000 And you want to know why we barely won back the House?
00:08:35.000 Because we're playing a game that does not exist anymore.
00:08:39.000 We're playing a game where we thought that late breaking independents showing up to go vote on Election Day could bring us back into chambers of power.
00:08:48.000 And the Democrats are chuckling and you say, okay, while you guys attack mail-in ballots, by the way, we should be skeptical of mail-in ballots, but there's other ways to vote early.
00:08:56.000 We're just going to keep on banking our votes.
00:08:58.000 We're going to go do vote gathering for fraternities and sororities at Arizona State University, even though it's questionable if they're all living in the same house together.
00:09:06.000 Boxes of ballots coming at Arizona State University of people from sororities that are obviously very pro-abortion.
00:09:13.000 Drop boxes at convenient Democrat areas.
00:09:16.000 And then we broadcast our big play, and there's toner issues on the printer.
00:09:22.000 In Anthem, in Wickenburg, in Scottsdale, our hottest precincts, hot as a pistol for Republican areas.
00:09:29.000 Mass widespread malfunctions.
00:09:32.000 We focus on retail politics.
00:09:35.000 Democrats focus on wholesale ballot collection.
00:09:38.000 And if there is any takeaway from this election, it's less about messaging.
00:09:44.000 Yes, Dobbs played a role in independence.
00:09:46.000 We could talk endlessly about that.
00:09:48.000 But it is the game itself that has been fundamentally changed forever.
00:09:54.000 And it's not going back.
00:09:56.000 You could want it to go back.
00:09:57.000 I want it to go back.
00:09:58.000 When they screaming about democracy, they mean a game of their creation to go chase pieces of paper and put them in a box.
00:10:08.000 The game was changed in 2020, but many of us did not want to admit that.
00:10:15.000 And here we are.
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00:11:45.000 Somebody says, Charlie, there's nothing we could do to stop their cheating.
00:11:48.000 We might as well give up.
00:11:49.000 I know that I'm done working, advocating.
00:11:52.000 These people always steal it from us.
00:11:54.000 Thanks so much.
00:11:55.000 I'm done.
00:11:56.000 I'm getting a lot of emails like that.
00:11:58.000 People that are just saying, I'm completely done.
00:12:00.000 That is exactly what the opposition wants you to do.
00:12:06.000 The strategy is to try to invoke your surrender.
00:12:12.000 If they are able to get you to be able to surrender, they win.
00:12:20.000 And look, it's very important and it's very suspicious about how all the toner issues in Republican areas were in Republican precincts in Maricopa County.
00:12:31.000 It feels as if it was a sabotage.
00:12:33.000 And the Democrats, they were chuckling the entire time because they said, well, you guys told us how you were going to vote.
00:12:40.000 You told us that you guys were all going to create a bottleneck, a surge, and overwhelm the system.
00:12:46.000 And they laughed.
00:12:48.000 They said, okay, well, then I guess the toner issues are going to be wrong.
00:12:51.000 Tyler Boyer tweeted, he says, I'm increasingly nervous about having long lines at the polls and machinery failing.
00:12:58.000 We tweeted a week and a half before the election that we're very worried about Maricopa County's ability to facilitate at 223 voting centers, the election day surge that is going to happen.
00:13:08.000 And they told us everything will be just fine by intentional sabotage.
00:13:16.000 Now, there's still so much good news that we can share throughout all of this.
00:13:21.000 Pelosi being retired, Republicans taking back the House, flipping the Nevada governor's race.
00:13:30.000 Now, we have to game this out because if we are to surrender and engage in their psychological warfare, if we are to give up completely and totally, then they get all of their victories instantaneously.
00:13:46.000 This here is to try to demoralize you.
00:13:51.000 And I can understand it, by the way.
00:13:53.000 I understand.
00:13:53.000 I mean, I got another email right here.
00:13:56.000 This person says, you know, Charlie, I used to be really involved.
00:13:59.000 I'm done.
00:14:00.000 I'm going to go move to rural Arizona and only watch the news every once in a while.
00:14:05.000 I'm completely demoralized.
00:14:07.000 These people have broken me.
00:14:08.000 I'm giving up.
00:14:10.000 Okay.
00:14:11.000 People are, I understand that.
00:14:13.000 We're getting tons of emails of what looks like to be the biggest white flag surrender that I've seen in quite some time. 0.57
00:14:20.000 I know personally, we're just getting started to lean into this fight.
00:14:24.000 And what does that look like?
00:14:26.000 In many different ways, it looks like making sure first and foremost in Arizona that Abe Hamadai becomes Attorney General of Arizona.
00:14:35.000 Abe Hamaday is down 236 votes with still thousands of votes to be counted in Maricopa County, down 236 votes.
00:14:44.000 This thing is going down to the razor wire, the razor wire.
00:14:49.000 What else can we do?
00:14:50.000 We can support good candidates for 24.
00:14:52.000 We could pressure this Republican Congress to put points on the board.
00:14:56.000 We can stay involved in local issues and local government.
00:15:01.000 You could support your local Turning Point USA chapters, help start a high school chapter for Turning Point USA at your local high school.
00:15:09.000 You can get engaged in the homeschool movement.
00:15:11.000 There's so many things to do that we need to do right now.
00:15:16.000 And it's going to take effort.
00:15:19.000 It's going to take more work to fight the headwinds.
00:15:23.000 But if you're willing to give up, then you're willing to tell me that Rush Limbaugh was wrong.
00:15:28.000 Play cut 80, please.
00:15:30.000 We are not sunk yet.
00:15:32.000 We will never surrender.
00:15:34.000 We will never give up.
00:15:35.000 Never, never, never.
00:15:37.000 It's not who we are.
00:15:38.000 It's not what we do.
00:15:40.000 We never give up.
00:15:42.000 We never give up.
00:15:43.000 That's who we are.
00:15:44.000 We look at what went right.
00:15:46.000 We look at what went wrong.
00:15:48.000 We should be enraged by the grand larceny that happened in Arizona.
00:15:53.000 Demand a new election.
00:15:55.000 Understand realistically that a judge is going to be unlikely to do that, but let's do the best legal challenge we possibly can.
00:16:04.000 And look at what's possible.
00:16:05.000 Look at Florida.
00:16:07.000 Sometimes it's going to take a little bit of a turn in one way to have to get into a positive direction.
00:16:15.000 The people are with us.
00:16:16.000 That is what the national congressional vote shows us.
00:16:19.000 The people are with us.
00:16:20.000 The problem is, though, is, I mean, it's the proverbial: we're playing checkers and they're playing chess.
00:16:26.000 We're playing flag football and they're playing full contact football.
00:16:31.000 Things can improve, but it's going to take a citizen movement for quite some time.
00:16:38.000 And look, I see it in real, I see it one after the other of people saying, I'm done, I'm giving up.
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00:18:18.000 The people are with us.
00:18:20.000 We have won the national congressional popular vote by nearly 4.4 million votes.
00:18:26.000 The people are with us.
00:18:28.000 The maps were all messed up in certain states.
00:18:30.000 They targeted certain races, but the people are with us.
00:18:34.000 That's better than any poll.
00:18:36.000 That is a 4 million person advantage that wanted to see some form of change in Washington, D.C.
00:18:43.000 And look, some people say, well, Charlie, there were some uncontested Republican races that really helped Republicans, but there were some uncontested Democrat races as well, especially in urban areas like Seattle and San Francisco.
00:18:55.000 So it's basically a wash in Massachusetts and California.
00:19:01.000 And so when you win the congressional popular vote by 4.4 million votes, you should take a step back and you say, okay, certain races did not go the way we wanted them to go.
00:19:11.000 Holy moly, is that true?
00:19:13.000 And absent a total revote in Arizona, we may never know the impact of that voter suppression operation of the toner issues that happened.
00:19:23.000 But do not despair.
00:19:25.000 It's not as if the people sent a message where they want everywhere they want more Democrats running everything they're doing all the time.
00:19:32.000 Heck, if you look in Arizona, I talked to somebody yesterday who voted for Katie Hobbs, and they told me the reason they voted for Katie Hobbs is because she was going to secure the southern border.
00:19:44.000 This is a conversation I had yesterday.
00:19:47.000 They said Katie Hobbs is going to secure the southern border.
00:19:50.000 I said, What on earth are you talking about?
00:19:52.000 You know what they said?
00:19:53.000 They said, Well, I only saw negative ads about Kerry Lake, and I saw Katie Hobbs on the border.
00:19:59.000 There's a lot of people that think that way.
00:20:00.000 And we're going to fix that.
00:20:02.000 We're going to fix it.
00:20:03.000 We're also going to understand the game is this mass ballot collection operation.
00:20:08.000 There's so much good news to take away.
00:20:11.000 The people are with us.
00:20:12.000 Now, the system is not with us.
00:20:14.000 The machinery is all messed up.
00:20:16.000 Okay, we're going to figure it out.
00:20:17.000 We're going to lean in.
00:20:19.000 Joining us now is Katherine Engelbrecht from the great True the Vote.
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00:20:25.000 Katherine Engelbrecht was needlessly, and I believe illegally and recklessly jailed for protecting an FBI source, a story that did not get nearly enough press attention.
00:20:36.000 Catherine, welcome back to the program.
00:20:38.000 Hey, Charlie, thanks for having me.
00:20:40.000 Catherine, your organization, True the Vote, has done some phenomenal and pioneer work explaining mule operations.
00:20:46.000 Do you believe that these mule operations were still up and running in these midterm elections to help Democrats?
00:20:52.000 Well, I mean, I think they were, but I also think that our impact of exposing it early into 2021 curtailed it mightily. 0.54
00:21:02.000 Certain states got rid of their drop boxes altogether.
00:21:04.000 We had groups that we saw citizens assembling to watch the drop boxes.
00:21:08.000 So, you know, we had an impact for sure.
00:21:10.000 And, you know, we still have to get rid of the drop boxes, but we're much better off than we were in 2020.
00:21:15.000 Yeah.
00:21:16.000 So in states where you can't get rid of drop boxes with state legislative power, are there legal remedies to be able to get rid of them?
00:21:25.000 You know, I don't know.
00:21:27.000 I mean, it depends state by state.
00:21:29.000 I think the biggest thing that we can continue to do is educate people about the fact that these drop boxes are, unless you have a plan for either a citizens' watch group or you're live streaming cameras, they're not being watched.
00:21:43.000 They're not being monitored and they are insecure.
00:21:46.000 So people, I think, you know, it's in the American sort of spirit to trust, right?
00:21:50.000 Well, I think certainly after 2020, we should have antenna up on this blind trust issue.
00:21:58.000 And Dropbox is one of it, was the weakest link in the chain.
00:22:01.000 So walk us through your diagnosis of what happened in Arizona.
00:22:06.000 Well, I think, you know, coming into this discussion, I heard you talking about the air quotes toner issue.
00:22:16.000 You know, look, the fraud has been institutionalized in ways that are layers and layers and layers deep.
00:22:23.000 And the fact that you just take that one issue of the toner or the failure of the printers, printers that had been worked used in the primary with no problems.
00:22:34.000 A setting change must have occurred.
00:22:37.000 Why did that happen?
00:22:39.000 What changed from when the machinery was tested the night before the polls opened until election day?
00:22:44.000 And that remains to be seen, but it will be seen.
00:22:49.000 You know, everything leaves digital fingerprints.
00:22:52.000 So that will be exposed.
00:22:55.000 But it's one of the many things.
00:22:57.000 There were huge breaks in chain of custody.
00:22:59.000 There were all manner of polling places running out of paper and the press towards what is it in Arizona, a 50-day election period?
00:23:10.000 I mean, there's just so much season now.
00:23:13.000 It's all right. 0.98
00:23:14.000 We have a longer election season than Ramadan.
00:23:19.000 So it's, you know, I mean, look, we have Arizona's not over.
00:23:24.000 And There are legal questions and remedies, we believe, still to be explored.
00:23:30.000 Um, successful, successfully, I believe.
00:23:33.000 But make no mistake, you know, there will there will not be a, I don't believe, a dip in the press to change our election process between now and 2024.
00:23:46.000 There are all indications that leftist intentions are to continue to morph this process into something that is less and less and less reliable and transparent.
00:23:56.000 And that is why it's critical that we not take our eye off the ball.
00:24:01.000 They're pushing for 2024.
00:24:03.000 Arizona's not over, 2022 isn't over, but we cannot take our eye off the ball.
00:24:08.000 2024, I believe, is going to be the show.
00:24:13.000 And they're making the moves now.
00:24:15.000 Yeah, so let's talk about part of this.
00:24:17.000 So, according to Rasmussen, a very reputable mainstream polling firm, 48% of Maricopa election centers had printer or tabulation malfunctions on Election Day, not the previously estimated 20%.
00:24:31.000 And no such widespread issues were reported during the early voting period that preceded Election Day and used the very same equipment.
00:24:38.000 So basically, this equipment was being used for in-person early voting, and there was not a single issue.
00:24:45.000 And then on Election Day, it feels like an ambush, it feels like a sabotage, but let's pretend it was just gross incompetence, which I find hard to believe.
00:24:53.000 48%, Catherine, you're involved in a lot of the language of voter rights issues and legal complaints.
00:25:01.000 Have you, I mean, walk us through what a potential remedy would be like for this after commenting on that.
00:25:08.000 Well, it's.
00:25:08.000 It gets to the heart of an equal protections question, because what happened to voters in Maricopa County who came and tried to cast their ballot in those environments where the printers were not working, were told you know, they either had to wait in line for hours and then tried, you know, 12 different ways to try to get their ballot to be taken or to put it into to a door number three um questionable, you know, black box um,
00:25:37.000 but they were also turned away.
00:25:39.000 They were told to go to other polling places, they were told to vote provisionally and in those instances uh, their vote and the and the lack of clarity around whether or not that ballot counted, uh impacts not only what happened in Maricopa, but impacts other counties as well, and so, and so I think that that there's, there's a lot yet to be uh learned about what really happened in Maricopa,
00:26:09.000 but it it has to be examined.
00:26:12.000 We can't just, you know we can't, we can't just check the box and say well, it didn't.
00:26:17.000 You know that was unfortunate, that 48 of the equipment didn't work.
00:26:21.000 It's, it's not acceptable.
00:26:22.000 Yeah, and so is that?
00:26:23.000 What is the remedy then, Catherine?
00:26:25.000 I mean we should, we call for a revote?
00:26:26.000 I certainly think that's the very basis of this.
00:26:29.000 I mean, we could only speculate what the impact of this would be.
00:26:33.000 This is not a legitimate election in the sense of 48 of voter tabulation.
00:26:38.000 Equipment just goes down.
00:26:40.000 Well, I mean, that's extraordinary, that's right, that's that's, that's right, and and it impact, you know, impacts every voter right you could have.
00:26:46.000 You could have wanted to vote for, for Kerry Lake or Katie Hobbs if the printer wasn't working.
00:26:52.000 You know you're being disenfranchised yeah, so this is, this is a matter of equal protections broadly, and I think that you know it's very, very important to to thoroughly examine state law to understand what the remedies are that Arizona affords uh, and how and how best to um, To seek that justice that ensures that every legal vote is counted and that voters have an opportunity to be heard.
00:27:19.000 So we're examining that right now.
00:27:21.000 I know that Kerry Lake's team is looking at it.
00:27:24.000 And, you know, I'll tell you this.
00:27:28.000 True the vote, historically, year upon year, a cycle upon cycle, we have an election integrity hotline that people call in and we have live operators that are taking sworn statements, and then we have people that can come to our website and post on our report.
00:27:45.000 We, in the state of Arizona, I think we're now up to about 2,000 reports of voters who tell harrowing stories of what their experience was.
00:27:54.000 Those stories need to be heard.
00:27:56.000 There's a lot to be learned, and we must learn it.
00:27:58.000 We can't just gloss over it.
00:28:01.000 These are too important to, you know, to just try to kick to the curb or sweep away.
00:28:07.000 So we need to explore it and it's going to be looked at.
00:28:10.000 From what I understand, the way the law is written is that a voter should be able to have the right to vote in the method of their choosing.
00:28:19.000 Is that correct?
00:28:21.000 Meaning that the county cannot tell you to vote a certain way if you want to vote a certain way.
00:28:26.000 Is that right?
00:28:30.000 I think broadly that's right.
00:28:32.000 I can't quote chapter and verse from Arizona law on that front, but certainly that's the spirit of an election is that you should be afforded the opportunity, whatever methods your state makes available, you should have the right to choose.
00:28:45.000 I want to play cut 391, just talking about how the technician from Maricopa County came in.
00:28:51.000 48% of the tabulating machines, 48% failed on election day, and they were working perfectly the days before.
00:29:00.000 Play cut 391.
00:29:02.000 I was a poll observer on November 8th at the El Dorado Park Community Center in Scottsdale from 6 a.m. to 1 p.m.
00:29:08.000 Tabulator voter suppression issues started shortly after a county technician arrived to check our equipment.
00:29:14.000 Between noon and 12:30, approximately 20% of the ballots were failing.
00:29:18.000 Between 12:30 and 1 o'clock, four of every seven ballots were failing.
00:29:23.000 I'll never forget the look on these affected voters' faces.
00:29:26.000 They were in disbelief that our system of voting was failing them in a mass en masse.
00:29:31.000 Catherine, about 45 seconds, your reaction.
00:29:33.000 It's heartbreaking.
00:29:35.000 You know, we've got, as a country, we must take our elections more seriously.
00:29:42.000 They are the defining characteristic of a constitutional republic, and we can't move past it.
00:29:49.000 We must get to the bottom of what happened in Arizona.
00:29:51.000 It's important for Arizona.
00:29:52.000 It's important for the country.
00:29:53.000 And True the Vote's committed to staying this course.
00:29:57.000 One of our listeners said, Charlie, were the machines down only in heavy conservative areas?
00:30:01.000 Disproportionately, yes.
00:30:04.000 For every machine that went down, there was like a five to one ratio.
00:30:08.000 They were in Scottsdale, they were in Mesa, they were in Anthem, they were in Wickenburg, it was in Surprise, it was the suburbs and the excerpts.
00:30:17.000 For whatever reason, the machines worked fine mostly in downtown Phoenix.
00:30:21.000 It's bizarre.
00:30:25.000 Someone says, Charlie, why are we giving up?
00:30:27.000 We're not the weak party.
00:30:29.000 Stop crying like the Democrats.
00:30:30.000 You know, that's an interesting point.
00:30:32.000 I would say that about half of the emails of people that have emailed us, got a couple thousand emails today are people that want to quit.
00:30:37.000 And that's fine.
00:30:38.000 Maybe you just need a break and you blow up some steam.
00:30:40.000 But when Democrats get something they don't like, they raise more money than ever before and they organize.
00:30:46.000 We got to take a page out of them.
00:30:47.000 Remember, Donald Trump became president in 2016, sworn in in 17, and they created this mass oppositional movement, mass oppositional movement.
00:30:56.000 So where do we stand in Arizona?
00:30:59.000 Abe Hamade is currently down 236 votes in the Arizona Secretary of State's race.
00:31:07.000 Kerry Lake is down 16,780 votes.
00:31:11.000 And you have to wonder, 48%, 48% of voting centers go down on election day.
00:31:18.000 That's nearly half of all voting centers completely and totally malfunctioned, creating lines and queues.
00:31:28.000 And it derailed so much of what we thought was going to happen in Arizona.
00:31:32.000 We may never know the impact.
00:31:34.000 It is pure speculation.
00:31:36.000 For Abe, it's not speculation, by the way.
00:31:38.000 236 votes.
00:31:40.000 That is not speculation.
00:31:41.000 That is, you could say with certainty and with clarity, the result would be different if it wasn't for that mass voter suppression operation.
00:31:51.000 But you really have to think.
00:31:52.000 You say, okay, the machines are working perfectly the days before, and then they stop working at 6 a.m. the day of at 48%.
00:32:03.000 Now, isn't that interesting?
00:32:06.000 Why?
00:32:07.000 So if it was, let's think about this logically.
00:32:10.000 If it really was a toner issue, as they say, and by the way, people are asking us freedom at charliekirk.com, what do you mean by a toner issue?
00:32:19.000 What they're alleging, and I just don't believe them, is that because in Arizona you have to print the ballots on site, that they had the wrong printer settings, so it wasn't feeding into the machines correctly.
00:32:30.000 Okay, then why didn't that happen at all the voting sites?
00:32:32.000 Why only the heavy Republican ones?
00:32:36.000 And why did they change it?
00:32:37.000 Who approved that change?
00:32:40.000 And why is it that it was working in absolute perfection the days prior in the early voting period and day of you have this bedlam catastrophe?
00:32:57.000 Why is that?
00:32:59.000 Because again, if you were trying, we got to think like the leftists.
00:33:03.000 And by the way, why didn't this happen during the primaries?
00:33:07.000 Primaries, it didn't happen.
00:33:08.000 The testing day before went fine.
00:33:11.000 According to all reports, they said it worked fine perfectly.
00:33:14.000 Was there some technician that went in and changed some settings?
00:33:19.000 That's the only logical explanation, by the way.
00:33:22.000 The only logical explanation is if it worked in early voting fine and it worked in testing fine, then something changed.
00:33:31.000 For every action, there's an equal and opposite reaction.
00:33:34.000 An object at rest will stay at rest until it is acted upon by another force.
00:33:40.000 Now, it might not have been Stephen Richer or Bill Gates.
00:33:42.000 It could have been just some rogue operators because here we are broadcasting, broadcasting, broadcasting of how we're going to vote.
00:33:54.000 And it only, by the way, this very well could have just been, instead of 2,000 mules, it could have been 20 technicians.
00:34:02.000 It could have been two technicians, by the way, that just kind of gallivanned around the valley.
00:34:09.000 So if it was working the day prior, then something had to change it.
00:34:19.000 And the question is: what changed it?
00:34:23.000 Who changed it?
00:34:25.000 And then they say on election day, well, everything is just perfectly fine.
00:34:29.000 We're working beautifully and everything is just great.
00:34:33.000 But was it?
00:34:34.000 Was it working just great?
00:34:37.000 You know, I'm going to propose something.
00:34:39.000 For the new Republican House of Representatives, I think that the new Republican House of Representatives should hold a hearing or two with some subpoenas for the Maricopa County Recorder's Office.
00:34:53.000 It's time for Congress to investigate this.
00:34:55.000 If the Department of Justice won't do this, why not have the new Republican Congress do it? 1.00
00:35:01.000 Let's have the great Marjorie Taylor Greene, who looks like she's going to be on the oversight committee. 1.00
00:35:05.000 Let's let her ask a couple questions of Stephen Richer and Bill Gates.
00:35:08.000 I'm just asking, I'm wondering, why did this change?
00:35:11.000 Who were the technicians?
00:35:14.000 Why is it that 48% of the Republican-leaning precincts had an issue and they weren't there the days prior that resulted in two to three-hour lines and mass voter suppression?
00:35:28.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
00:35:29.000 Email me your thoughts as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:35:33.000 Thank you so much for listening.
00:35:34.000 God bless.
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