The Charlie Kirk Show - Never Surrender.

00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, the path forward in Arizona.

00:00:02.000 After some disappointing ballot drops, we try to chart the path forward.

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00:00:41.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.

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00:01:22.000 The British Empire and the French Republic, linked together in their cause and in their need, will defend to the death their native soil, aiding each other like good comrades to the utmost of their strength.

00:01:37.000 We shall go on to the end.

00:01:39.000 We shall fight in France.

00:01:42.000 We shall fight on the seas and oceans.

00:01:45.000 We shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength in the air.

00:01:51.000 We shall defend our island, whatever the cost may be.

00:01:55.000 We shall fight on the beaches.

00:01:57.000 We shall fight on the landing grounds.

00:02:00.000 We shall fight in the fields and in the streets.

00:02:03.000 We shall fight in the hills.

00:02:06.000 We shall never surrender.

00:02:08.000 And if, which I do not for a moment believe, this island or a large part of it were subjugated and starving, then our empire beyond the seas, armed and guarded by the British fleet, would carry on the struggle until, in God's good time, the new world with all its power and might step forth to the rescue and the liberation of the old.

00:02:38.000 That speech by Winston Churchill was given on June 4th, 1940.

00:02:43.000 Interesting, I never thought about this.

00:02:44.000 Turning Point USA was founded on June 5th, obviously, 82 years later.

00:02:50.000 But interestingly enough, the speech, We Shall Fight on the Beaches by Winston Churchill, was given at a time when, if you listen carefully to what he is saying, he's basically saying, We are all alone, but our will, the will of the people, the will of our isle, through blood, toil, tears, and sweat, will overcome whatever they throw at us.

00:03:14.000 And this speech, more than anything else, terrified the National Socialist Workers' Party.

00:03:20.000 This speech given by Winston Churchill was the thing that Hitler and Mussolini and the Axis of Evil feared the most.

00:03:30.000 What they feared was a battle cry of the will.

00:03:34.000 You see, the only way that the Axis was going to win is if the English-speaking people, the Anglosphere, would surrender. 0.98

00:03:44.000 And Churchill knew this.

00:03:45.000 Churchill studied them.

00:03:46.000 Churchill was warning for years about how this axis of evil did everything they could to break your resolve.

00:03:58.000 And Churchill, he flushed it out.

00:04:01.000 And he basically said, every square inch that we have on this aisle, we will fight.

00:04:07.000 And that famous line, we shall never surrender.

00:04:12.000 We shall fight on the beaches.

00:04:14.000 We shall fight on the landing grounds.

00:04:15.000 Basically, what he's saying is, every square inch imaginable, we will defend.

00:04:23.000 I find a lot of inspiration from Churchill because I know a lot of you feel as if we are all alone and that things are falling apart, especially after the unfortunate and just quite honestly, inexplicable news at times.

00:04:38.000 Kerry Lake losing independence on Election Day, voting machines going down on Election Day.

00:04:44.000 But we can look to that sort of message: the only thing that the other side needs for their victory, the thing that they need for victory, is for us to surrender.

00:04:55.000 And the question is: are we going to say that we will never surrender?

00:04:59.000 I know a lot of you are exhausted and fatigued, and many of you are just so sick and tired of this.

00:05:04.000 You know, I was actually supposed to be right now in the UK.

00:05:08.000 I was actually going to go visit Blenheim Palace and all that.

00:05:10.000 I canceled the whole thing.

00:05:12.000 There's too much going on here in this country.

00:05:13.000 America First is not just a slogan.

00:05:15.000 You actually have to live out America First.

00:05:17.000 I was going to go debate at the Oxford Union.

00:05:19.000 I was going to go speak at Cambridge.

00:05:20.000 All really nice stuff.

00:05:21.000 You know, stuff that would be great honors and all those sorts of things.

00:05:25.000 The country's in way too big of a crisis right now.

00:05:28.000 Donald Trump is announcing for president tonight.

00:05:30.000 We're going to be looking very closely at that.

00:05:32.000 Obviously, what's going on in Arizona, the Attorney General's race, there's leadership elections in the House.

00:05:37.000 The House of Representatives is still not called.

00:05:39.000 And so here we are.

00:05:40.000 We need to ask ourselves the question: will we surrender or are we just going to give up and give the left everything that they've been asking for?

00:05:46.000 There's a lot of good news to celebrate.

00:05:48.000 Governor Greg Abbott of Texas has signed a declaration of invasion on the Texas border.

00:05:54.000 The very same thing that Kerry Lake pledged to do the first day of governor of Arizona.

00:06:00.000 And inexplicably, in some ways, Kerry Lake is not going to be governor of Arizona.

00:06:04.000 Now, we're going to fight.

00:06:04.000 We're going to try to cure as many ballots as we can.

00:06:06.000 There will be lawsuits.

00:06:07.000 There will be attempts for another election in Maricopa because of all the disenfranchisement.

00:06:13.000 But there is no use in trying to raise our expectations to a place of hopium. 0.98

00:06:19.000 We're going to hopefully get some sort of remedies, but that's how things stand right now.

00:06:24.000 Governor Greg Abbott signing a declaration of invasion.

00:06:27.000 We are going to have the House of Representatives maybe by three or four seats.

00:06:31.000 There's a lot of good things happening.

00:06:32.000 Donald Trump announcing for the presidency tonight.

00:06:35.000 We're going to be looking at that very, very closely.

00:06:38.000 And if we have producer Andrew with us as well, Producer Andrew, good morning.

00:06:42.000 Good morning, Charlie.

00:06:44.000 I love that intro.

00:06:45.000 The cold open got my blood going.

00:06:48.000 I'm feeling pumped and ready to go.

00:06:50.000 I think a lot of the audience is in a similar place where there's sort of the fog of wars around us.

00:06:55.000 So to get pumped up with some Churchill was great.

00:06:58.000 And I have other good news, by the way, on the House front.

00:07:02.000 It looks like Representative Ken Calvert will defeat Will Rollins in California's 41st.

00:07:11.000 That should be 218.

00:07:13.000 Yeah, no, we're at 217, and there's 13 races left.

00:07:18.000 And we're ahead or winning in the majority of those.

00:07:21.000 So obviously, mail-ins are going to keep coming in, and those will close, and the Dems are going to pick a few of them off.

00:07:28.000 But this is interesting, too, because this was a GOP stronghold for years.

00:07:32.000 Calvert's been representing this area since 93, but this was one of the redrawn maps, and it included a big part of Palm Springs, which has a lot of Democrat voters in Palm Springs.

00:07:45.000 So for him to hold off the challenger here is a big win and really solidifies it.

00:07:53.000 I mean, I don't see any path for the Democrats to take the House now, really, unless they ran out the board, and that's just not going to happen.

00:08:00.000 And that's terrific news.

00:08:01.000 And look, I just want to reemphasize this for people watching here.

00:08:03.000 I am open to anybody that could possibly explain to me.

00:08:07.000 I want to hear the explanation.

00:08:09.000 And obviously there's ballot capturing and all this nonsense, but any logical explanation, okay, within the framework of what is widely accepted that Kerry Lake, who had unbelievable support, that won independence three to one on in-person election day, that was able to have this massive crowds and all of this, lost to Katie Hobbs, who refused to debate, did not campaign, had no support whatsoever, zero on the ground.

00:08:35.000 And it seems like that's the new model, though, isn't it, Andrew?

00:08:39.000 No.

00:08:39.000 Fetterman, Hobbes, Biden.

00:08:43.000 Here's the model.

00:08:44.000 Here's the model that they're proving.

00:08:45.000 I mean, it started with Biden staying in his basement.

00:08:47.000 We all laughed at that while Trump was drawing crowds of 30,000 people all across the country.

00:08:52.000 He got air support, a lot of money, a lot of money, a lot of disinformation.

00:08:57.000 You know, the left projects what they themselves are doing.

00:09:00.000 I mean, they believe maybe sincerely.

00:09:04.000 I mean, I wouldn't put it past them.

00:09:06.000 They're living in a bubble, but they believe that Republicans are fascist, that this is the end of democracy.

00:09:12.000 We all know this is a joke.

00:09:15.000 They believe that, and they put out disinformation about abortion.

00:09:20.000 A lot of young women were believing that stuff.

00:09:21.000 A lot of people on TikTok, a lot of young people on TikTok were believing that stuff.

00:09:25.000 And they felt righteously engaged in the struggle to keep women who had miscarriages out of jail.

00:09:32.000 We're going to talk with FCC Commissioner Brendan Carr about TikTok, specifically how disinformation spreads on that platform with young people.

00:09:41.000 But you stay in your basement, you spend a lot of money on air war, you spread disinformation, and that's, and you ballot capture, and you use early votings.

00:09:50.000 That's the model.

00:09:51.000 We've identified it now.

00:09:52.000 It's the machinery of electioneering, the old way of actually spreading your message, rallying crowds together.

00:09:59.000 It doesn't seem to be the model right now.

00:10:02.000 It's really sad.

00:10:03.000 It's really bad for our country.

00:10:06.000 By the way, they always say it's a democracy.

00:10:08.000 It's a democracy.

00:10:09.000 We're not a democracy.

00:10:09.000 We're a republic, but it really isn't no longer about persuading voters or making messages.

00:10:14.000 Literally, Katie Hobbs didn't debate.

00:10:16.000 Fetterman just kind of, I don't even think that was a debate. 0.99

00:10:19.000 No, instead, what it's about is just running the game. 0.99

00:10:19.000 It was pathetic. 0.99

00:10:23.000 It's about machinery, tracking down ballots. 0.99

00:10:25.000 So they send out ballots all over the place. 1.00

00:10:27.000 So Carrie Lake is out there trying to earn votes and win people over. 1.00

00:10:30.000 She was running a 1995 style campaign. 1.00

00:10:33.000 But Democrats, they were like, okay, yeah, yeah, you go talk to voters. 0.78

00:10:36.000 We're going to go run up the score in Tempe at ASU.

00:10:39.000 We're going to have drop boxes right there.

00:10:41.000 And by the way, we're broadcasting our biggest message and we're saying, oh, yeah, we're going to show up on election day.

00:10:46.000 We're going to show up right on election day.

00:10:48.000 And they say, okay, well, maybe there's going to be a lot of toner issues.

00:10:51.000 I'm not saying we have no evidence yet that they did intentionally, but come on.

00:10:56.000 I believe that these people are super sinister and they wanted to derail Kerry Lake at all costs.

00:11:01.000 And guess what?

00:11:02.000 We know materially that people were disenfranchised on election day.

00:11:06.000 And there were our two-hour lines at polling places all across the valley.

00:11:11.000 People heard about that and they got, they just said, forget it.

00:11:13.000 I'm not going to go vote.

00:11:15.000 Well, don't forget, Charlie, 70% of Election Day voters were Republican in Maricopa County and in Arizona in general.

00:11:22.000 So if you're going to have lines that are an hour and a half long, if you're going to have toner issues, machine malfunctions, you're going to have different information coming out of the poll workers.

00:11:32.000 And again, you've made this point very clear.

00:11:34.000 We don't have any ill will towards the poll workers.

00:11:36.000 A lot of them are Republicans.

00:11:38.000 A lot of them are older people that were volunteering their time, you know, but they were sending out mixed signals.

00:11:44.000 A lot of times they were telling people to go to a different polling place.

00:11:47.000 A lot of voters don't know what it means to spoil a ballot and to box three.

00:11:53.000 Nobody knew what box three was.

00:11:54.000 We were trying to figure out box three on election day.

00:11:57.000 This definitely impacted how many Republicans voted in Maricopa County.

00:12:01.000 You think that Trump lost Maricopa County by two points.

00:12:04.000 Carry's on track to lose it by basically three.

00:12:07.000 That does not stand to reason, especially with the polling.

00:12:11.000 None of it does, I mean.

00:12:12.000 And so basically, campaigning and this is the big learning lesson and, quite honestly, it should have been the biggest lesson out of 2020 because we did not make the changes and the Republican legislature here or the Republican governor in Arizona they didn't get rid of universal vote by mail, they didn't get rid of drop boxes, and you know we were, we were advocating for that and they said there was a lot of efforts yes, a lot of efforts to do that yes, and it just failed.

00:12:36.000 And the Republican governor here in Arizona and the legislature just didn't get it done.

00:12:39.000 Rusty Bowers, for example Uh, blocked a lot of it.

00:12:43.000 And so the Democrats, when they, when they scream about democracy, what are they screaming about?

00:12:48.000 They're screaming about universal vote by mail, drop boxes on every corner.

00:12:52.000 Basically, what they've been able to do is they have now created a model where yes, they come in with hundreds of millions of dollars of ads to at least get to some equity with independence right, that they need to be able to get within 10 five to 10 points of independence and then they're able to run up the score with these ballot capturing drops at ASU and University OF Arizona and NAU or at PENN State University and at some point we're not able to actually close that gap because,

00:13:22.000 if they're, if they're getting voter turnout where basically every single human being in a precinct is voting, because they all have universal vote by mail and you're not supposed to be able to ballot harvest in Arizona.

00:13:35.000 But I find it impossible to believe that the Democrats are not ballot harvesting.

00:13:40.000 I mean, we've gotten, we've gotten no, we've gotten a bunch of leads that that they were actually harvesting.

00:13:46.000 No, I mean, it's the very minimum to show that and not one person has been indicted for that.

00:13:50.000 But at the minimum Charlie, you know, this is when we're, when we're kind of doing the post-mortem.

00:13:55.000 Here we can see that the if, if they weren't out and out ballot harvesting which I think they were they were using early voting tactics because again, this is all publicly available information.

00:14:08.000 They were using early voting tactics to drive the vote early, and then they saw what was left on the board, deploying capital teams to go push those people to vote right phone call banks, all that stuff.

00:14:19.000 We've got to get better at that, and I think one of the lessons of this election is that the conservative movement has to marry the old with the with the new right.

00:14:30.000 This energy, this populist energy uh, on the conservative side, I think is really healthy.

00:14:35.000 I think it's very, very good for the country.

00:14:37.000 Um, but you have to take some of the old tricks that the old dogs knew.

00:14:41.000 Now listen, i'm no Mccain fan, i'm no Flake fan, but what they did really really well was they drove uh, probably the 50 to 60, an older crowd with early voting.

00:14:51.000 Mccain was expert at that, and that's why you see places like Arizona and Florida.

00:14:55.000 They were very good at early voting because they knew their voters loved to vote early.

00:14:59.000 So okay, we've got to marry some of these, these strategies together.

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00:16:10.000 Someone says, Charlie, I'm disappointed in you.

00:16:12.000 When we watch the commercial breaks, we see a fiery Charlie Kirk, someone who hits the issues head-on, someone who isn't afraid of the opposition.

00:16:18.000 I feel like we've seen a very passive Charlie Kirk the last few days.

00:16:21.000 We both know there was foul play.

00:16:22.000 We know voters were turned away in Republican areas.

00:16:24.000 We know that numbers for the GOP were somehow Arizona got a Democrat governor and senator.

00:16:28.000 Nothing is right.

00:16:29.000 It's your show, but it disappoints me to watch you pass it on these issues.

00:16:32.000 How on earth can you say I'm passive?

00:16:33.000 We're the only show talking about it.

00:16:35.000 I understand you guys are angry, but just be accurate.

00:16:40.000 So look, we're at a piece of, we're in a place right now where the governor's race in Arizona, the attorney general's race in Arizona, the Secretary of State's race in Arizona, all of them together, including also, of course, the Senate race, we never might know what the result would have been.

00:17:02.000 Now, for all of you guys, they're getting so mad.

00:17:02.000 We do not know.

00:17:05.000 I mean, I just have a question.

00:17:07.000 Why has the RNC, or where's all these massive lawsuits that are being filed in Maricopa County Court?

00:17:14.000 Why has not one been filed?

00:17:16.000 So maybe that should be the focus of all of our attack or attention.

00:17:20.000 There has not been a lawsuit filed for disenfranchisement.

00:17:24.000 They filed one lawsuit to try to get polling places extended and it failed.

00:17:28.000 Just to give you an idea of how corrupt the judges are in Arizona, they filed a lawsuit to try to get the polling window extended on election day and it failed.

00:17:37.000 Just did not work.

00:17:39.000 The judge said, Yeah, I don't see enough evidence that voters were disenfranchised.

00:17:43.000 Andrew, what is your response to people that say, look, we have to fight very hard at this moment?

00:17:49.000 I totally and completely agree.

00:17:51.000 I'm waiting for the deluge of lawsuits.

00:17:53.000 I haven't seen it, Andrew.

00:17:55.000 No, to that point, we are fighting.

00:17:58.000 People don't know everything that's going on behind the scenes.

00:18:00.000 First of all, you need to go to defenddemocracyaz.com if you have a story that you were disenfranchised.

00:18:07.000 They were going to be gathering all of those stories up for either a class action lawsuit or something of that variety.

00:18:14.000 And they are going to be pushing back on this.

00:18:17.000 The other thing that they're going to be trying to do when everybody keeps talking about the machines, I understand the frustration with the machines.

00:18:24.000 We all wonder the same thing.

00:18:25.000 Guys, until we have clear evidence, we can't go after it.

00:18:28.000 It's also, I don't know, we're going to be doing a handful of people.

00:18:32.000 What frustrates me, though, is that I was so attacked for telling people to maybe early vote.

00:18:38.000 Remember that, Andrew?

00:18:39.000 I said, guys, you should entertain.

00:18:40.000 100%.

00:18:41.000 And everybody was like, there's no chain of custody, all this stuff.

00:18:44.000 We get that.

00:18:46.000 But here's the thing.

00:18:47.000 So, guys, and this is the person, whoever at the Arizona Republican Party decided to publish this thing on a piece of paper.

00:18:53.000 So my mother-in-law is a four out of four registered Republican, and someone knocked on her door in Arizona.

00:18:58.000 And I'll never forget this.

00:18:59.000 It was a week and a half and a week and a half before two weeks before the election, and they dropped off a golden ticket, right?

00:19:05.000 Which is how to vote on all the props and everything.

00:19:07.000 And on the top of the golden ticket, it said, The primary proved that voting on election day is the best strategy.

00:19:14.000 And I thought to myself, and we did a whole show on it, I said, Man, we're broadcasting exactly how the Democrats can disrupt our final move.

00:19:21.000 Like we're telling them that all they have to do is create some sort of clogging of the drain on that day.

00:19:29.000 And I want to be clear, Charlie.

00:19:31.000 One of the goals that they are going to be pursuing is a hand count of the actual ballots in Maricopa County.

00:19:38.000 Okay?

00:19:38.000 Yes.

00:19:39.000 So that is one of that's one of the main things that you can do to check the work of the machines because people actually have to physically fill in the bubble.

00:19:49.000 And so, and by the way, there is a lot to fight on this.

00:19:53.000 And I'm trying to communicate this with Abe Homeday's campaign.

00:19:56.000 And this is where, honestly, there was some really bad legal advice.

00:19:59.000 Andrew, remember when some people came out and said you can check into one polling place and vote at another?

00:20:03.000 Remember when people said that?

00:20:04.000 Yeah, it's not true.

00:20:05.000 There's 3,000 voided votes in black bags right now in the Maricopa County Tabulation Center.

00:20:10.000 The Kerry Lake campaign was giving bad legal advice.

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00:21:18.000 There was legitimately thousands, if not tens of thousands, of voters disenfranchised on Election Day in Arizona.

00:21:25.000 PlayCut 309.

00:21:27.000 Tabulator voter suppression issues started shortly after a county technician arrived to check our equipment.

00:21:33.000 Starting at 11:30, we started experiencing issues with tabulators not accepting voters' ballots.

00:21:39.000 These voters were instructed to re-enter their ballots four different ways in the original tabulator.

00:21:44.000 Then, if all failed, to do the same thing in the second tabulator, then if failed again, go back to the first tabulator and try again.

00:21:50.000 If all 12 attempts failed, they were given the choice of spoiling their ballot, having another printed, fill out their ballot again, and try submitting the tabulators again.

00:21:59.000 A 30-plus-minute process on top of waiting in line for an hour plus or placing their ballot in drawer number three.

00:22:07.000 Between 11:30 and noon, approximately 10% of the ballots were failing.

00:22:11.000 Between noon and 12:30, approximately 20% of the ballots were failing.

00:22:15.000 Between 12:30 and 1 o'clock, four of every seven ballots were failing.

00:22:20.000 And that right there is a poll worker in Scottsdale, Arizona.

00:22:24.000 And we hear about that all across the valley.

00:22:26.000 The result of this, because Maricopa County will respond, they say, Oh, well, all the ballots were eventually counted.

00:22:33.000 Well, hold on.

00:22:34.000 All afterwards, what ends up happening is because, sorry, you get these very, very long lines and people then get deterred because of that.

00:22:46.000 Do we have that other tape here that we sent of all the people that were turned away on Election Day?

00:22:51.000 Which, by the way, should be illegal.

00:22:54.000 Andrew, how many people do we have that have contacted us that have said that they went to go vote and it was a one hour and two hour wait?

00:23:02.000 Now, remember, we made the analogy that it would be like trying to go down to New York City at five o'clock, try to get double the amount of traffic.

00:23:09.000 It's just a traffic jam ends up happening.

00:23:12.000 Well, and remember, Charlie, a judge struck down extending poll hours.

00:23:16.000 They closed everything at seven, right?

00:23:18.000 There was a request put in and a judge closed that.

00:23:21.000 So we know that, but there's thousands of emails in our inbox right now of people that were turned away, confused, basically disenfranchised.

00:23:29.000 So that's going to have a material impact on this election.

00:23:32.000 And if not for Carrie, definitely for Abe, you know, so they need to pursue legal remedies.

00:23:38.000 And so let me tell you guys about something that a lot of you are on to, which is great, which is a lot of people are emailing us and they say, Charlie, what about all these black bags at Maricopa County Tabulation Center?

00:23:54.000 You guys are onto something there, actually.

00:23:56.000 I talked to one of Kerry Lake's team members last night and he told me that those are called voided vote votes.

00:24:03.000 We cannot get an answer from Maricopa into how many voided votes there actually are.

00:24:08.000 Now, a voided vote could be someone that actually was trying to game the system.

00:24:14.000 But there was a press release that was sent, and I can't remember who we're going to find, but on game day, when all this confusion was happening, when all of this confusion was occurring, some people said, hey, you could check into one voting center and then just go vote in another one.

00:24:29.000 In fact, poll workers were telling people that.

00:24:33.000 Poll workers were telling people, oh, you could just go to another one if the machines don't work.

00:24:38.000 Well, that actually now has resulted in these huge black boxes of ballots in the Maricopa County Tabulation Center of voided votes.

00:24:48.000 And so I don't know if that's going to make a difference for Carrie, but for Abe, those are potentially 3,000 votes that could be voided because they said they, by the way, under statute, there might not be a remedy to be able to count them.

00:25:02.000 Yeah, well, and by the way, just so you know, there was the AZGOP was telling people you could go to one polling place once you check in and go to another.

00:25:02.000 Andrew.

00:25:14.000 And it turns out that has resulted in thousands of voided votes.

00:25:17.000 Yeah, a strategic blunder, if not just a mistake, because people weren't sure on the details.

00:25:22.000 But I mean, that day, as soon as issues started happening with the tabulation center, I mean, I'm not throwing her under the bus.

00:25:28.000 I think she was just getting bad information as well. 0.99

00:25:31.000 Kelly Ward put out, don't put your ballot in Dropbox 3, go to the nearest open polling center.

00:25:38.000 But when you think about this, and you're probably thinking about this in our audience, is a four out of four R.

00:25:44.000 Okay.

00:25:45.000 If you're a two out of four or one out of four, you're leaning towards Carrie.

00:25:49.000 You don't got time for that.

00:25:50.000 You got kids you got to take care of, pick up, drop off.

00:25:53.000 You've got work to get to.

00:25:54.000 Not everybody has the time to sit around all day on election day and deal with these shenanigans that they were polling.

00:26:00.000 And by the way, another piece of breaking information that we learned last night, Charlie, is that Stephen Richer, you know, a top Maricopa County election official, he donated.

00:26:11.000 This is proven.

00:26:12.000 He donated to a far left resistance group on Twitter that we all know and love, Patriot Takes.

00:26:18.000 And I use that sarcastically.

00:26:20.000 It's actually a, it describes itself on Twitter as a dedicated researchers monitoring and exposing right-wing extremism and all threats to democracy.

00:26:30.000 And he donated to them.

00:26:32.000 Stephen Richard donated money.

00:26:33.000 Granted, it was $40, but it's very, very telling that Stephen Richard would put $40 towards an account like Patriot Takes, which all they do is clip shows like this and Bongino and everything else, and they blow them up on Twitter.

00:26:48.000 Let's play another piece of tape here.

00:26:50.000 And this goes to show how many people were disenfranchised on election day.

00:26:55.000 What cut is that?

00:26:57.000 280.

00:26:58.000 Thank you.

00:26:58.000 None of the machines were reading very well.

00:27:02.000 My first ballot, they tried to scan about eight times.

00:27:04.000 It was rejected every time.

00:27:06.000 They were saying that the tabulating machines were down.

00:27:09.000 The line was at least 20 people at the tabulators because of the functioning, ill-functioning tabulators that should have been properly tested and ready.

00:27:18.000 Put my ballot in, it did not take.

00:27:21.000 I reversed it.

00:27:22.000 It did not take.

00:27:23.000 One of the tabulators was broken, and the other tabulator kept rejecting everyone's vote.

00:27:29.000 Andrew?

00:27:31.000 Yeah, I mean, it's our inbox is filled with these.

00:27:34.000 They're filled with them.

00:27:35.000 And I want to, again, encourage everybody to go to defenddemocracyaz.com, tell your stories.

00:27:41.000 Those could be used in future litigation in Maricopa County.

00:27:45.000 So it's not just, it's not, you know, they're not compiling some sort of diary just for the sake of it.

00:27:50.000 They're going to be using these stories and they might be reaching out to you if you have a compelling one because this is endemic in Maricopa County.

00:27:57.000 I mean, to your point, Charlie, I mean, we telegraphed our move.

00:28:01.000 Yeah, and I'll take responsibility for part of it.

00:28:05.000 I said I was going to vote on game day.

00:28:06.000 I encouraged some people to vote early if this would have intimidated you.

00:28:10.000 And we were worried about a traffic jam and they set us up.

00:28:16.000 Literally, this was an ambush.

00:28:18.000 This right here was a ballot ambush on election day.

00:28:21.000 There is no other way to put it.

00:28:23.000 Now, was it people say, oh, you don't know if it's intentional or not?

00:28:25.000 It doesn't matter if it's intentional.

00:28:27.000 It happened, right?

00:28:28.000 The motives we can uncover at a different time.

00:28:30.000 But one out of five of voting centers in the most Republican areas resulted in 30 minutes, 45 minute, hour-long waits to vote.

00:28:40.000 By the way, on that chart, it was an ambush.

00:28:42.000 You tweeted about that on election day, and Maricopa County retweeted or quote tweeted you and basically said, none of this is true.

00:28:50.000 You want to know what's true?

00:28:52.000 We got thousands of emails in our inbox of people saying, I had to wait half an hour.

00:28:56.000 We've got dozens and dozens of video testimonials of people saying the exact same thing that they waited 90 minutes, two hours on election day.

00:29:04.000 That's unacceptable.

00:29:05.000 And here's just one note of caution to the audience.

00:29:07.000 Everybody says machines, machines, machines.

00:29:10.000 Guys, whether it was intentional or not is irrelevant.

00:29:13.000 It is very, very hard to prove malice or intentionality in the court of law.

00:29:18.000 You're going to take Bill Gates and Steve Richard to court.

00:29:18.000 It just is.

00:29:21.000 They're going to say it was unfortunate.

00:29:23.000 We've already apologized for it.

00:29:24.000 From a customer service standpoint, it wasn't good enough, but it was not intentional.

00:29:28.000 That is misinformation spread by Carrie Lake and all of her, you know, all these people.

00:29:33.000 It doesn't matter if it was intentional or not.

00:29:35.000 It doesn't matter if it was malice.

00:29:38.000 What matters is it happened.

00:29:39.000 That's provable.

00:29:40.000 And it was disenfranchising for thousands of Maricopa County voters that skewed heavily Republican.

00:29:46.000 That needs to be litigated.

00:29:49.000 Let's get to another piece of tape here.

00:29:51.000 And by the way, I'm not blaming Carrie Lake's campaign.

00:29:53.000 I am stating a fact, though, that Kerry Lake's campaign and some of their messages did communicate something that was incorrect because it was Bedlam. 0.95

00:30:02.000 Okay.

00:30:02.000 And I think they regret it.

00:30:03.000 But right now, Abe Hamaday should sue for the, and so should Kerry Lake for those 3,000 voided ballots that are in Maricopa because there's 3,000 people that got news that they could go vote at another polling place after they check in.

00:30:18.000 And ironically, Andrew, it's actually the system doing its job.

00:30:22.000 I know that sounds weird because it's actually supposed to trigger a do not allow to vote.

00:30:27.000 Does that make sense to allow you to go to multiple places to vote?

00:30:31.000 Yeah.

00:30:32.000 And so paradoxically, it actually is there to prevent fraud, but these people were not cheating.

00:30:37.000 They were going because it would not accept their ballot and people told them to go to another place.

00:30:43.000 Okay, let's play another piece of tape here.

00:30:45.000 Let's go to 310.

00:30:48.000 Which one's been working there?

00:30:50.000 Which one's working better?

00:30:52.000 Yeah, I thought so.

00:30:53.000 I have to stress it though.

00:30:57.000 Okay, go ahead.

00:30:59.000 He's like it already.

00:31:01.000 Keep pushing it over.

00:31:03.000 Yeah.

00:31:07.000 Can I come over here now?

00:31:10.000 It's never going to go true here.

00:31:13.000 Here's just it.

00:31:15.000 Guy and Prayer.

00:31:16.000 Oh, really?

00:31:17.000 It didn't work here.

00:31:19.000 No, it worked here first time.

00:31:22.000 We voted for the wrong person.

00:31:24.000 Oh, no.

00:31:25.000 That's not the right word.

00:31:26.000 You can put it in here.

00:31:27.000 It'll be counted tonight.

00:31:29.000 Yeah.

00:31:33.000 And so there's a guy who's trying to vote the normal way, and he's being told, oh, you can just put it in here and it'll be tabulated tonight.

00:31:39.000 By the way, it wouldn't be tabulated tonight.

00:31:42.000 That was actually misinformation right there from a poll worker that it would be tabulated tonight.

00:31:46.000 That was not true.

00:31:47.000 They got shipped downtown that night and they've been counted in batches ever since.

00:31:52.000 But it was not, they would not get counted that night.

00:31:55.000 And that was a big, that was actually a big concern of AZGOP, which is why they were messaging out, don't go, don't put your ballot in box three.

00:32:02.000 We don't know what the chain of custody is, and it'll get lost in the system for days.

00:32:07.000 Yeah, and still to this moment, at this hour, my assistant who voted in person on election day still has not had his vote counted, even though he did it in person on election day.

00:32:19.000 Still to this moment.

00:32:21.000 Inexplicably.

00:32:23.000 No one knows what's going on there.

00:32:28.000 Let me tell you the attitude we should not have.

00:32:30.000 Charlie, I officially give up.

00:32:31.000 What happened to Lake is impossible.

00:32:33.000 Country is lost.

00:32:34.000 I'll never vote again because my vote doesn't count.

00:32:36.000 Democrats now just appoint dictators.

00:32:41.000 That is the wrong approach.

00:32:43.000 That is giving up and giving the Democrats everything they need.

00:32:46.000 Now, just hear me out for a second here, okay?

00:32:49.000 I do believe that Democrats, ballot captured and ballot harvested.

00:32:56.000 But if it was, if your vote did not count, for example, why is it that David Schweikert was able to win his congressional district?

00:33:06.000 Why was Eli Crane able to win to be able to give us the U.S. House of Representatives?

00:33:13.000 Why is that the case?

00:33:15.000 No, what is more practical and logical is that, yes, there is voter suppression happening based on the drop boxes and the ballot harvesting.

00:33:25.000 It's all around the same themes that we talked about in 2000 Mules.

00:33:29.000 It's all around that.

00:33:32.000 But if you live in Scottsdale and you voted in person on Election Day, I think your vote counted.

00:33:39.000 Now, was it canceled out by other nonsensical people halfway across the valley?

00:33:44.000 Maybe.

00:33:45.000 But look, you got to remember, the Democrats want you psychologically defeated.

00:33:50.000 We enable this psychological defeat when we convince ourselves that the Democrats have these omnipresent, everywhere super fraud powers.

00:33:59.000 Now, let me just say this again.

00:34:01.000 I am convinced.

00:34:02.000 It is inexplicable to me, inexplicable, how Carrie Lake lost independence on Election Day.

00:34:09.000 I want someone to come to me on this program and let me know how Carrie Lake lost independence on ballot day drop-offs by 20 points when she won them with in-person Election Day.

00:34:21.000 What's the answer to that?

00:34:22.000 I don't know.

00:34:23.000 That defies the laws of nature to me.

00:34:26.000 You know, somebody said, Charlie, you were so confident.

00:34:29.000 You were so confident.

00:34:30.000 Yes, I was confident because I thought under no circumstance whatsoever, under no calculation, under no possible formula, did I think that Kerry Lake would win independence when they went in to vote on Election Day three to one and then lose them if they dropped off a ballot?

00:34:46.000 That's the difference right there.

00:34:47.000 If Kerry Lake would have just won those independents of the people that drop off their ballot on election day, now you might say, well, Charlie, she did win them and all this.

00:34:56.000 We may not know.

00:34:58.000 We do not know.

00:34:59.000 But here's the essence of it.

00:35:01.000 While we were trying to win votes, this is what everybody can agree on.

00:35:07.000 When we were trying to win votes, Kerry Lake was doing rallies, Kerry Lake was doing interviews, Kerry Lake was doing press gaggles, Kerry Lake was talking to reporters.

00:35:15.000 She was running a campaign.

00:35:17.000 The Democrats, they were running a machine.

00:35:20.000 There's a difference now between running a machine and running a campaign.

00:35:24.000 And honestly, we are now past the point in time where debates and rallies, all that stuff matters less.

00:35:30.000 And that's a really bad thing for the country, by the way.

00:35:32.000 Where now it actually matters of who can scoop up the most amount of ballots and put them in a box.

00:35:37.000 It's like this massive game.

00:35:38.000 It's like, let's play a game.

00:35:40.000 And honestly, the Democrats have been trying to design a set of circumstances for years, trying to make elections more like a game and less like an actual decision of voters.

00:35:53.000 They have been trying to design a terrain where there's boxes everywhere, and it literally is a 45-day sprint of how many people can you deploy on your payroll to go get favorable ballots into the box.

00:36:08.000 It's like basically democracy, as they put it, is less about an election.

00:36:12.000 It's less about the pulse of people's decisions.

00:36:15.000 And it's much more like this strange, kleptocratic designed game where it's, there's a better word for it than game.

00:36:23.000 It's like a simulation where they say, just go put as many pieces of paper in the ballot as you possibly can.

00:36:29.000 Now, that's not to say that every person filling out the ballot doesn't actually believe what they're saying, but they're not convinced about winning voters. 0.95

00:36:36.000 Just look at Katie Hobbs.

00:36:37.000 Look at John Fetterman.

00:36:38.000 Look at Joe Biden.

00:36:40.000 They don't care about what people think of them at all.

00:36:43.000 They focus on election mechanics.

00:36:46.000 We focus on rallies and the aesthetic and the messaging and yard signs and whether or not we are firing up our base.

00:36:57.000 They don't care about any of that.

00:36:58.000 We care about arguments and being persuasive and how we're branding stuff.

00:37:02.000 And Democrats basically are like, yeah, we're just going to go put the ballots in a box and we're going to win.

00:37:08.000 After the COVID election, I should have, I will take, I will acknowledge responsibility for this.

00:37:14.000 And we should have realized that debates really mean less than ever before.

00:37:20.000 Arguments mean less than ever before.

00:37:22.000 It's about the plumbing and the mechanics of an election.

00:37:25.000 And that's where we are right now.

00:37:29.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:37:31.000 Email me your thoughts as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:37:34.000 Thank you so much for listening.

00:37:35.000 God bless.

00:37:39.000 For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to CharlieKirk. com.

The Charlie Kirk Show - November 15, 2022

Never Surrender.

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